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Naples, Florida, June 17, 1986
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of zoning
Appeals and as the governing Board(s) of such special districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 9:00 A.M. in REGULAR SESSION in Building
"F" at the Courthouse Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following membe~. present:
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CHAIRMAN: John A. Pistor
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VICE-CHAIRMAN: Anne Gooanight
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Frederick J.Voss
Max A. Hasse 'J
C. C. "Red" Holland
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ALSO PRESENT: James C. Giles, Clerk: Carmen Ruiz and Maureen
Kenyon, (10:30 A.M.) Deputy Clerks: Ken Cuyler, County Attorney;
Donald B. Lusk, County Manager; Neil Dorrill, Assistant County
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Manager; Pam Brangaccio, Deputy Assistant County Manager; David
;}Weigel, Assistant County Attorney; David pettrow, Planning/Zoning
.. Director; Vickie Mullins, Community Development Administrator; Ann
McKim, David Weeks and Barbara Cacchione, Planners; Tom Kuck, Public
Works Administrator: Dr. Brandt Henningsen, Natural Resources
Management Tecì.nician: Na~~y Israelson, Administrative Secretary to
..:~i the Board: and Deputy Chief Ray Barnett, Sheriff's Department.
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AGZNDA APPROVED WITH CHANGES
Commi..ioner Vo.. moved, .econded by Commi..ioner Ha... and
carried unanimously, that the Agenda b. approv.d with the following
chanqesl
1. Item 9BS to be heard at 2:00 P.M.
2. Addition of Item 9B6, Recommendation to approve short list
of consultants, authorize negotiation of contract for
Phase Q'e engineering services, and empower County Manager
to execute contract.
3. Addition of Item 9El, Recommendation to authorize the County
Manager to execute a negotiated new courthouse architectural
contract to Winsor/Faricy, St. Paul, Minnesota.
Item 12
DPLOßZ BERVICB A1ß1U)S (PBRBONNEL)
Commissioner Pistor presented the following employees with service
awards:
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ORDINANCB 86-25 RE PETITION R-86-3C, AGNOLI, ASSAAD, BARBER , BRUNDAGB
REPRESBNTING DONALD GEORGE CANNAlf, REQUESTING A REZONB PROM "E"
ESTATES TO pun ~OWN AS THB RANDALL BOULEVARD CENTBR LOCATED AT
IMMOJtALEZ ROAD AND RANDALL BLVD. - ADOPTED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on May
16, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider Petition R-86-3C, filed
by Agnoli, Assaad, Barber and Brundage, representing Donald George
Cannan, requesting a rezone from "E" Estates to PUD known as the ','
Randall Boulevard Center for a convenience center facility for property
located at the intersection of Immokalee Road and Randall Boulevard.
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Planner McKim stated that the subject property is located east of
the intersection of Immokalee Road and Randall Boulevard; lands to the
north across Randall Boulevard contain north Golden Gate City, which
was approved for 2100 dwelling units and 22 acres of neighborhood com-
mercial uses, eight acres of this convenience commercial is located
it), ,immediately across from the subject property; lands to the east, south
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4\ . and west are z.;-ned "E" Estates. She added that all the surrounding
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Planner McKim indicated that staff reviews all petitions for
compliance with the Comprehensive Plan, which allows a very limited
amount of convenience commercial in the area it designated as
,"ves~ed", which is the Estates area and does not include Golden Gate
;~i~Y, She said that to limit the amount of convenience commercial in
'the Vested Area certain criteria were established which are listed on
the Executive Summary. She pointed out two which are of special con-
cern to this petition: Item B, which regulates the amount of acres
between 2.25 and 5 acres; when the petition was submitted the,property
was 5.15 acres and through a survey and agreement by the petitioner,
they agreed to limit it to 5 acres; Item E, which states, "The service
area is generally considered as the surrounding areas within a radius
of two miles; i.e., the site is no closer than four (4) miles to the
nearest commercially zoned sLte within the Vested Areas." She said
the subject property is actually 3.2 miles from existing commercial in
the Vested Area which is located on Wilson Blvd. and Golden Gate, and
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for this reason the staff recommended denial of this petition because
it did not meet the criteria that was established for convenience com-
mercial in the Vested Area.
She added that the Collier County Planning Commission held their
public hearing on June S, 1986, and found the petition to be in
compliance with the Comprehensive Plan and unanimously recommended
forwarding the petition to the Board with a recommendation of approval
subject to amendment of the PUD document and the site being limited to
a maximum of S acres. She indicated that those people in favor of the
petition feel there is a need for commercial in the area.
Commissioner Pistor asked how can staff find that the petition
does not comply with the Comprehensive Plan and the CCPC finds that it
does? Planner Barbara Cacch~one answered that staff reviews the peti-
tion and makes a recommendation to the Planning Commission and they
are the final body that interprets the staff recommendations to deter-
mine consistency. She indicated that in this case, the language in
the Comprehensive Plan refers to a general service area of two miles
and that no site can be closer than 4 miles. The Planning Commission,
she said, interpreted that general service area as allowing for some
overlap between the service areas and that was the basis of their
decision.
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~~. Planner Cacchione stated that the language in the Comprehensive Plan
may allow for that type of reasoning, however, staff still has some
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concern over the proliferation of commercial within the Estates;
noting that the 4 mile criteria was placed there to limit the amount
Cacchione said that the Comprehensive Plan refers to a radial
distance in terms of defining market areas: a circle is drawn around
each of the two areas, the one on Golden Gate and Wilson and the pro-
posed site, and the circles do overlap by 3/4 of a mile. She added
that the Planning Commission had a discussion in regard to road miles
to the site and there was some confusion as to whether it was 3.5 or
3.8 miles, and staff has since remeasured and found it to be 3.2 in
road miles.
Commissioner Hasse asked if to the north of this particular pro-
perty there is a commercial node indicated in the rezoning?
Planner Cacchione answered that as part of the settlement agreement
for North Golden Gate City, which is not part of the Vested Area and
does not have that same land use designation as the surrounding pro-
perty, there are approximately 22 acres which allow for a number of
different types of uses, some of the same uses that are included on
the proposed site. Commissioner Hasse asked if that was considered,
and Ms. Cacchione answered that it was considered by staff and it was
one of the reasons for recommending denial.
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Mr. Wafaa F. Assaad from Agnoli, Assaad, Barber & Brundage, the
planners for the project, stated that the site was originally calcu-
lated as being 5.15 acres of land because included in that calculation
was half of the right-of-way immediately north of the property;
however I after a boundary survey was done, excluding the right-of-way
because it is deLicated, the property is 5 acres exactly. He added
that the property is zoned "E" Estates and a PUD zoning is proposed to
allow for a small convenience commercial shopping center facility. He
indicated that the County agencies and people in the area have sup-
ported the application and all of the suggestions and modifications
have already been included in the PUD document. He pointed out that
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one point of entrance is proposed to the property, the buildings are
21,000 square feet, to be built in three phases, a large amount of
buffer and green space around the property will be left and setbacks
ere from the property line to the parking lot. He stated that once
approval is received from the Commission, construction will start
immediately. He added that, with the exception of two criteria as
.. outlined by the staff, all of the criteria of the Comprehensive Plan
have been met; however, the 5 acre minimum requirement and the 4 road
miles requirement, which he says is 3.8 miles and close to 4 miles,
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compliance with the Plan.
Commissioner Hasse asked if the entrance could be moved to the
west? Mr. Assaad answered that the entrance can be moved to gain a
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little bit more distance, but by keeping the entrance where it is, a
safer traffic pattern is created.
Commissioner Holland asked Mr. Assaad if he saw this as strip
because the site is not directly
Road to the project? Commissioner Goodnight answered l2 miles.
Commissioner Voss stated that the the Planning Commission recom-
mended in favor, there are l3l signatures on a petition in favor,
there are letters from several associations who are in favor of this
project and he believes the Board should approve the petition.
commissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Hasse and
carried unanimously, that the public hearinq be closed.
Commissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Goodniqht, that
Petition R-S6-3C be approved.
Commissioner Holland asked County Attorney Cuyler if he is
satisfied that the project meets the Comprehensive Plan? Mr. Cuyler
stated that the primary interest is the 4 road mile interval between
the two zoned areas, and there is room for some interpretation in the
provision, but it is important that the Board realize if they, go below
that 4 miles with regard to this zoning petition, there will be other
zoning petitions coming before the Board that will be below the 4 mile
criteria.
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Commissioner Holland asked did not the Commission turn down a
couple of petitions that were within the 4 mile radius? Mr. Cuyler
stated that the staf~'s position in advising the petitioners has been
that it is a 4 mile requirement, and there probably have been some
petitions that have not gotten to the Board because of that and there
may have been some that were denied by the Board.
Upon call tor the question, the vote was 4/t (Commissioner Rolland
opposed), whereupon the Ordinance as numbered and titled below was
adopted and entered into ordinance Book '23.
ORDINANCB 86-25
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 82-2, THE COMPREHENSIVE
ZONING REGULATIONS FOR THB UNINCORPORATED AREA OF COLLIER
COUNTY, FLORIDA BY AMENDING THE ZONING ATLAS MAP NUMBER
48-27 BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OP THE HEREIN
DESCRIBED REAL PROPERTY FROM "E" ESTATES '1'0 "PUD" PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS THE RANDALL BOULEVARD CENTER, FOR
A CONVENIENCE SHOPPING CENTER FACILITY, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
AT THE INTERSECTION OF IKHOKALEE ROAD AND RANDALL BOULEVARD
IN SECTION 27, TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH, RANGE 27 EAST, +5.15
ACRES, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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PETITION R-86-4C, AGNOLI, ASSAAD, BARBER' BRUNDAGE, REPRESENTING
WILLIAM A. LANYI, REQUESTING A REZONING FROM A-2 TO PUD KNOWN AS THE
FARK ~OP, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF AIRPORT ROAD,
NORTH OF PINE RIDGE ROAD - CONTINUED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on May
:~,16, 1986, as eviden~ed by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
'~Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider Petition R-86-4C, filed
'~ by Agnoli, Assaad, Barber & Brundage, representing William A. Lanyi,
requesting rezoning from A-2 to PUD known as the Farm s1Çop for
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i !'~ representative has as~ed that this petition be continued to a future
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repor0and in attending the Planning Commission they found out that
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there is opposition to the development. He requested that the appli-
cation be deferred to August 19, 1986, which will allow time for
working with the staff and the opposition to resolve the iøsuee that
are outstanding at this moment. He added that he has been in contact
with the people that voiced objections during the Planning Commission
meeting to let them know that a request will be made for continuance,
and some people are present today to voice their opinion.
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Commissioner Pistor asked if the Board wanted to continue the item
or hear the 6 registered speakers? Commissioner Holland answered that
he would like to listen to the speakers.
The following people spoke in opposition of the peti~ion stating
that it would increase traffic in the area, creating an unsafe con-
dition for children, the initial heavy trucks and equipment needed for
the project would also be unsafe, that a truck stop would be bad ~nd
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out of character for the neighborhood, that it would have a negative
effect on property values, the zoning change would not be appropriate
to the area, and that there are already too many convenience stores in
the area.
Mr. Tom Reynolds
Mr. Frank Cardillo
Mr. Creg Davenport
Ms. JoAnn M. Smallwood
Mr. Tony Cnerre
Commissioner Hasse asked if everyone concerned was notified? Mr.
Pettrow answered that everyone within the distance outlined in the
Ordinance was notified.
Mr. Assaad stated that given the extension something more satis-
factory to the staff and the neighbors and more appealing to the
County can be worked out. In reference to zoning, he added, if there
are certain uses within the PUD that might be deemed inappropriate,
and it needs a bit of compromising or bringing it up to an acceptable
level, they are definitely willing to do that as opposed to
withdrawing th~ application and then go through the motions for
)~r,another six months. He said that he feels that a month or a few weeks
of extension would help everyone to bring it to a position before the
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Pi~tor asked when Mr. Assaad became awa~e ,of ,the
Mr. Assaad answered tha~ they became aware during the
Planning Commission public hearing and if they had known of any oppo-
sition prior to that, it is very unlike for them to let things go th~t
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, ~. }~.::'r~eti tioners postpone peti tions like th18 18 that the people sometirnes
t " go North for the sum~er, but that is not the case here. He indicated
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f ' ': that he has no objection to letting Mr. Assaad and the applicant work
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go through because both the staff and
there are many people who do not want it,
but there is nothing wrong in trying to work something out.
County Attorney Cuyler stated for the Board's information that if
there is a situation where the petition is changed substantially, the
Board might want to make it a condition that the petition go back to
the Planning Commission or at least be readvertised if the Board con-
siders continuation. Mr. Assaad agreed.
Commissioner Goodnight asked Mr. Assaad if he cannot work out the
problem with the staff and the public, will he withdraw the petition?
Mr. Assaad answered affirmatively.
Commissioner Goodnight movsd, seconded by Commissioner Voss and
carried unanimously, that the publio hearing be closed.
Commissioner Hasse stated that in light of all the objections and
the problems that might ensue, he moves to deny the petition.
Commissioner Holland seoonded the motion.
Upon call for the question, the vote was 2/3 (Commissioners Voss,
Goodnight and Pistor opposed).
Commissioner Pis tor stated that the motion failed 2/3.
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Mr. Cuyler indicated that for approval of the petition four affir-
mative votes would be required, and continuance would only need three
votes.
Commissioner Goodniqht moved, seconded by Commissioner Voss and
carrie~ 3/2 (Commissioners Hass. and Holland opposed) to allow the
petitioner to postpcne and go back and talk to the statt and tha
public, and ret~cn to the CCPC with the understandinq that it it is
not appropriate with the statf and the public that the petition will
be withdrawn.
Commissioner Pis tor stated that the petition will have to be
readvertlsed for appearance before ,the CCPC and then readvertised for
appearance before this Commission so a defini~e date for continuance
cannot be set at this time.
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PETITION 10-8'-7C, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION: REQUESTING
AMENDMENT OP ORDI~CE 82-2, THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE
TO INCLUDE PUD KASTER PLANS AND ADD PROVISIONS FOR TIME LIMITS _
CONTINUED
Legal Notice have been published in the Naples Daily News on May
29, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider Petition ZO-86-7C, filed
~:,,, by Community Development Division requesting amendment of Ordinance
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of Collier CJunty, Section 14.15, Development Plan Time Limits, to
include PUD Master Plans and add provisions for Time Limits for PUD
Master Plans.
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~~:~~. continued because the Planning Commission desires to workshop it
~' and that workshop is scheduled for June 25, 1986, and at that point it
~:: will be advertised for the Commission. She added that the item might
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Commissioner Voss moved, seconded Þy commissioner Goodnight and
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carried unanimously, that the publio hearing be olosed.
Commissioner Voss moved, .econded by Commissioner Hasse and
carried unanimously, that the petition be referred back to the staff
and the CCPe for further study and Þrouqht back to the Board at a
later date.
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ORDINANCZ 86-26, RE PETITION PDA-86-3C, WILSON, MILLER, BARTON, BOLL ,
PBBlt, REQUESTING .AN AMENDMENT TO CRESCENT LAD ESTATES PUD BY CHANGING
BLOClt liD" FROM A COMMERCIAL PROP'ESSIONAL AREA TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA
FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON THB EAST BIDE OF AIRPORT ROAD, SOUTH OF
IMMOKALBE ROAD - ADOPTED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on
May 16, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
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Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider Petition PDA-86-3C, filed
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by Wilson, Miller, Barton, Soll & Peek requesting an amendment to
Crescent Lake Estates PUD by changing Block "D" from a commercial pro-
fessional area to a residential area for a maximum number of 36 multi-
family dwelling units for property located on the east side of Airport
Road, across from Victoria Park Subdivision, in Section 25, Township
48 South, Range 25 East.
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Planner McKim stated that the objective is to amend the Crescent
Lake Estates PUD by changing Block "D" from a commercial to residen-
tial and have a density on that tract of lO units per acre. She added
that lands to the north of Crescent Lake Estates PUD are zoned A-2,
lands to the east ere zoned RSF-2, lands to the south are zoned A-2,
and lands to the west are zoned RMF-l2. She indicated that the pro-
posed multi-fam!ly use is more compatible with the permitted residen-
tial uses in this PUD than commercial uses, and therefore staff and
other appropriate County agencies reviewed this petition and had no
objections to approval subject to suggestions which wer~ recommended
as amendment to the PUD document. She stated that the Collier County
Planning Commission held their pUblic hearing on May 1, 1986, and
recommended forwarding this petition to the Board with the recommen-
dation of approval, subject to staff stipulations with clarification
of the access to Block "D" by amending Section 5.2.C of the PUD docu-
ment to read, "Access to Block "D" shall be via the main entrance
boulevard and the loop road."
She concluded that at the Planning Commission hearing no one spoke
for or against the petition; one letter of opposition was received
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expressing concern that the proposed amendment will create an eyesore,
block view of the single-family homes behind Block "D" and decrease
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that the recommendation is that the Board approve this petition sub-
ject to the Planning Commission's recommendations.
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Commissioner Holland askeð how can commercial zoning down-graded
to multi-family be detrimental to the surrounding homes? Planner
McKim answered that that was one of the comments from a letter from
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~',:r~~;(-:{::, In answer to Commissioner Hasse's question, Mr. Tom Peek stateð
. that the entran~e was placed in that location so it would create a
common intersection with the south entrance to Victoria Park.
Commissioner Hasse asked if there was going to be a traffic light
located at the intersection, and Mr. Peek answered at this point there
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is not one indicated, however, as the area grows and traffic con-
ditions warrant it, it will be considered.
Coamissioner Voss moveð, seconðeð by Commissioner Goodnight and
oarried unanimously, that the publio hearing be closed.
Cocmissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Has.e and
carried unanimously, that tbe Ordinance as Dumbered anð entitled below
be adopted and entered into Ordinance Book No. 23.
ORDINANCB 8G-2G
AN ORDINANCB AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 81-65, WHICH
ESTABLISHED THE CRESCENT LAKE BSTATES PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT, BY AMENDING THE INDEX, SECTION IV: BY
DELETING SECTION 3.10, SPECIAL BUFFERING AND SCREENING
REQUIREMENT FOR AREAS ADJACENT TO BLOCK liD"; AMENDING
SECTION IV, TITLE, BY CHANGING BLOCK liD" FROM A
PROFESSIONAL AREA TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA: AMENDING SECTION
4.2. PERMITTED USES AND STRUCTURES: ADDING SECTION 4.3,
MAXIMUM DENSITY: AMENDING SECTION 4.4, MINIMUM YARD
REQUIREMENT: AMENDING SECTION 4.5, MINIMUM FLOOR AREA OF
PRINCIPAL STRUCTURES: RENUMBERING REMAINING SECTIONS:
AMENDING SECTION 5.1, PUD MASTER PLAN; AMENDING SECTION
5.2, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS: AMENDIlIG SECTION 5.5, UTILITIES.
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ORDINANCB .'-27, RB PETITION PD~-.'-40, HOLE, MONTES AND ~SSOCIATES
REPRESENTING FHS PROPERTIES, REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE RETREAT AT
NAPLES PUD, BY SUBDIVIDING TRACT "B" INTO '1'1f0 TRACTS AND BY AMENDING
THE MASTER PLAN - ADOPTED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on May
16, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the Clerk,
public hearing was opened to consider Petition PDA-86-4C, filed by
Hole, Montes and Associates representing FMS Properties, requesting an
amendment to the Retreat at Nðples PUD, by sUbdividing Tract "B" into
two tracts: one of the new tracts to be developed as a life care com-
munity with l38 residential units and to allow a nine hole golf cour-
ee; and by amending the Master Plan to indicate changes on the east
side of Vanderbilt Drive, approximately 3/4 mile north of Wiggins Pass
Road in Section 9, Township 48 South, Range 25 East.
Planner McKim stated that the main reason for this amendment,
is to allow expansion of Bentley Village, which was an amendment to
the original PUD. She said that all the surrounding PUD's are multi-
family. She indicated that The Retreat was originally multi-family,
then it was amended for Bentley Village, and now they are requesting
~~a~other amendment to expand Bentley ~i~lage. She said that Section 11
,'1,':Of the PUD document adds this new tract and that the standards for it "
are within the new PUD document. She added that staff and appropriate
Coun~y agencies reviewed the petition and had no objection to its
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approval subject to amendment of the PUD document per the staff
report. She pointed out, that the CCPC had their public hearing on May
. 1, 1986, and unanimously recommended forwarding this petition to the
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it at the public hearing and one letter of
received objecting to the golf course in an area zoned .
She concluded by saying that the recommendation
is that the Board approve the petition subject to the Planning
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that in the long-range planning, the petitioner will consider using
effluent on the golf course, and a representative from Hole, Montes
answered that it has been discussed with the Utilities Department.
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Commissioner Hollan4 moved, seconded by Commissioner Hasse and
carried unanimously, that the public hearinq be close4.
Commissioner Holland moved, seconded by Commissioner Hasse and
carried unanimously, that the Ordinance as numbere4 and entitled below
be adopted and entere4 into Ordinance Book No. 23:
ORDINANCE U-27
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCB 82-97, WHICH ESTABLISHED
THB RETREAT AT NAPLES PLANNED t1NIT DEVELOPMENT, BY ADDING
THB INDEX; AMENDING Tn PUD DOCUMENT TO PROVIDE FOR THB
NUMBERING OF SECTIONS AND SUBSECTIONS: ADDING SECTION l.l
PURPOSB; ADDING SECTION 1.2, LEGAL DESCRIPTION; ADDING
SECTION l.3, GENERAL DESCRIPTION; AMENDING SECTION 1.4,
MAXIMUM PROJECT DENSITY; ADDING SECTION 1.5, PROJECT PLAN
AND LAND USE TRACTS: AMENDING TITLB OF SECTION 2.l,
PERMITTED USES POR TRACTS A, B, AND C; ADDING SECTION 3,
LAND USE REGULATIO}~8 POR TRACT D; AMEtJlJING SECTION 4.2,
MAINTENANCE: AME~~ING SECTION 4.4, EXVEPTIONS TO THE COUNTY
SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
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aBSOLUTION "-110, RB PETITION PDA-8'-7C, WILSON, MILLER, BARTON, BOLL
, PEEK REPRESENTING WILLIAM T. HIGGS, REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE
BERSHIRE LAKES DEVELOPMENT ORDER '83-1, HURRICANE EVACUATION -ADOPTED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on
June 1, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider Petition PDA-86-7C, filed
by Wilson, Miller, Barton, SolI & Peek representing William T. Higgs,
requesting an amendment to the Berkshire Lakes Development Order
'83-1, Section 3.F., dealing with hurricane evacuation.
Zoning/Planning Director Pettrow stated that this petition is to
amend the Development Order to incorporate the language which will
settle the appeals of the Department of Community Affairs (DCA) and
Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council. He said that the
Berkshire Lakes PUD and Development Order was approved August l6,
1983; on August 6, 1985, the Board of County Commissioners approved an
amendment to the Development Order reducing the minimum floor eleva-
tion of 12.8 feet mean sea level to no less than ll.2 feet mean sea
level. This minimum floor elevation, he indicated, is the criteria
used to trigger the requirement for on-site refuge shelters; if the
Collier County Building Department and Water Management Department as
:~,well as South Florida Water Management District permit a lower minimum
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Affairs and Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council appealed it
because they found that by lowering the minimum floor elevation, an
additional 1358 Berkshire Lakes residents would need to evacuate to
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sa'id, they determined that an additional l3S8
residents would be added to the evacuees leaving
Collier County, thereby impacting adjoining counties' hurricane eva-
cuation times, routes, traffic shelters and refugees.
Mr. Pettrow stated that the proposed Resolution adopts language
which has been agreed upon by the Department of Community Affairs,
Southwest Florida Regional planning Council and the Developer; the
language is functionally similar to that of the original Development
Order and, therefore, the Planning staff has no objection to the pro-
posed language. He concluded by saying that the staff is recommending
that the Board of County Commissioners adopt the Resolution thereby
resolving the appeals of the Department of Community Affairs and the
Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council.
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Commissioner Voss stated that originally the petitioner agreed
that if he was allowed to build at the lower elevation he would make a
considerable contribution to the County. He asked if that would be
affected by this amendment? Mr. Tom Peek from Wilson, Miller, Barton,
5011 & Peek, the engineers and planners for the project, stated that
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the letter of agreement that' Mr~ Higgs gave to the Board in December
of last year is still in effect.
commi..ioner Voss moved, .eoonded by commi.sioner Has.e and
carried unanimously, tbat tbe publio bearinq be olo.ed.
Commi..ioner VO.S moved, .econded by Commi.sioner HOlland and
carried unanimously, that Re.olution "-110 relatinq to Petition
PDA-'C-7C to amend the Berk.hire Lake. Development Order '83-1,
Seotion 3.P., d~alinq with hurrioane evacuation be adopted.
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Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on May
29, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider an Ordinance relating to
Flood Damage Preven~ion.
County Attorney Cuyler stated that the Board is well aware of the
fact that since !979 a Flood Damage Prevention Ordinance has been in
effect, and this Ordinance follows the same lines and is probably 95'
the same Ordinance; however, this one incorporates the 1986 flood
rates insurance maps that were issued pursuant to the appeal that was
conducted with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, and there are
minor changes in the document. He added if there are any questions
regarding the content or specific provisions, Mr. McDaniels is present
to answer those questions.
Commissioner Pistor stated that each Commissioner, should be pro-
vided with a set of maps. Mr. Cuyler stated that the Executive
Summary chronicles somewhat the appeal process which has been long but
was successful with the help of the South Florida Water Management
District, and the maps that were sent incorporate those elevations that
were produced by the South Florida Water Management District.
Commissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Has.e and
oarried unanimously, that the public hearing be closed.
Commissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Hasse and
carried unanimously, that the Ordinance as numbered and entitled below
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adopted and entered into Ordinance Book No. 23, incorporatinq the
late.t Flood Insurance Rat.. Hap..
ORDIKANCII 86-28
AN ORD;~CE RELATINa TO FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION;
PROVIDI~G FOR STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION: PROVIDING FOR
FINDINGS OF FACT; PROVIDING A STATEMENT OF PURPOSE;
PROVIDING METHODS OP REDUCING PLOOD LOSSES; PROVIDING
FOR DEFINITIONS; SETTING FORTH LANDS TO WHICH THIS
ORDINANCE APPLIES: PROVIDING FOR EXEMPTIONS: PROVIDING
FOR A BASIS FOR ESTABLISHING THE AREAS OP SPECIAL PLOOD
HAZARD; SETTING PORTH A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT REQUIREMENT;
PROVIDING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS; PROVIDING GENERAL
STANDARDS POR FLOOD HAZARD REDUCTION; PROVIDING SPECIFIC
STANDARDS FOR "V" ZONES: PROVIDING REGULATIONS WITHIN THE
FLOODWAYS: PROVIDING REGULATIONS FOR MOBILE HOMES: PROVIDING
STANDARDS FOR SUBDIVISION PLATS; PROVIDING FOR ADMINISTRA-
~ION AND DESIGNATION OF THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFPICIAL;
PROVIDING AN APPEAL PROCEDURE; PROVIDING A VARIANCE
PROCEDURE; PROVIDING INTENT AS TO ABROGATION OF EXISTING
RESTRICTIONS AND INTERPRETATION OF RESTRICTIONS; PROVIDING
A WARNING AND DISCLAIMER OF LIABILITY; PROVIDING FOR
PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY:
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE: PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
COLLIER COUNTY ORDINANCE NO. 79-'2 AND 85-54.
Item 110
ORDINANCB "-29, AMENDING SECTIOK 2 or ORDINANCE 78-'7 TO AMEND
THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PELICAN BAY LIGHTING MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING
UNIT BY ADDING PELICAN BAY UNIT SIX - ADOPTED
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29, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
Clerk, pUblic hearing was opened to consider an Ordinance amending
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Section 2 of Ordinance No. 78-67 to amend the boundaries of the
Pelican Bay Lighting Municipal Service Taxing Unit by adding those
certain recorded subdivisions ,known as Pelican Bay Unit Six; providing
an effective date.
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County Attorney Cuyler stated that Attorney Tracy BOlesky, legal
counsel to the Pelican Bay Improvement District, is present to explain
when that particular area is developed,
Commissioner Pis tor asked Mr. Bolesky if he understood that this
will not effect the taxes in the 1986-87 budget? Mr. BOlesky answered
affirmatively, and said that is why they work a year in advance.
Commissioner Voss moved, sacon4ed by Commissioner Holland and
carried unanimously, that the public hearing be closed.
Commissioner Voss moved, s.con4ed by Commissioner Hollan4 and
carried unanimously, that tü~ Ordinance as numbered and entitled below
be adopted and entered into Or4inance Book No. 23:
ORDINANCE 86-29
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION TWO OF ORDINANCE NO. 78-67
TO AMEND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PELICAN BAY LIGHTING
MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING DISTRICT BY ADDING THOSE CERTAIN
RECORDED SUBDIVISIONS KNOWN AS PELICAN BAY UNIT SIX'
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIvø DATE.
Item III
RESOLUTION 86-111 RE PETITION CCCL-aS-2C, HOLE, MONTES , ASSOCIATES,
REPRESENTING COASTAL BEACH FRONT JOINT VENTURE, REQUESTING A VARIANCE
FROM THE COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTROL LINE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTH
OF CLAM PASS PARK ON SEAGATE DRIvø - ADOPTED
Legal notice having been p~blished in the Naples ryaily News on
June 1, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
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Clerk, public hearing was opened to hear Petition CCCL-86-2C, filed by
Hole, Montes & Associates representing Coastal Beach Front Joint
Venture, requesting a variance from the Coastal Construction Control
Line (CCCL) for property located just south of Clam Pass Park on
Seagate Drive (f~ction 16, Township 49, Range 25).
Community Development Administrator Mullins stated that the peti-
tioner is requesting a variance for the construction of a wooden beach
access walkway, removal of Australian pines, landscaping with native
vegetation, and temporary use of the dune zone for equipment required
for construction of condominium buildings. She indicated that the
Executive Summary contains the stipulations which the staff has placed
upon the issuance of the permit, and the recommendation is for the
Board to approve the petition with the recommendations.
Commissioner Pistor asked if it is absolutely necessary to use the
dune area for equipment during construction? He added that it prac-
tically ruins the dune area and sometimes it is rebuilt, but it is not
always satisfactory. Dr. Brandt Henningsen answered that the peti-
tioner has said there is undue hardship, so they have requested that
a 25 foot corridor which will be narrowed to 14 feet for the southern
half of the property line; they are required to restore any damage
';'~';;'dó¡'e to the dune and to replant'naÙvJdune ~egetatio~:.· .;'",:";'
Commissioner Pistor asked if this' can be done succ~~sfuliy? Dr.
Henningsen answered "Yes."
Mr. Michael Zewalk representing the North Naples r.ivic Association
asked what is different about this setback of the dune line and the
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construction line versus what was turned down for Naples Cay?
Commissioner Voss answered that this is just for a boardwalk over the
dune. Deputy Assistant County Manager Brangaccio stated that this is
just a variance so that a boardwalk can be constructed, and that is
all that will be seen on the Coastal Construction Line.
commissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Holland and
'carried unanimG~.ly, that the public hearing be clos.d.
commissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Holland and
carried unanimously, that R.solution 8&-111 re Petition CCCL-8&-2C,
Coastal Beach Pront Joint Venture requestinq a variance from the
Coastal Construction Control Line for property located just south of
Clam Pass on Se.qate Drive, be adopted subject to staff recommen-
dations.
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ORDINANCB "-30 RE CREATION OF THE IKMO~LEB AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD OF
COLLIER COUNTY - ADOPTED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on May
29, 1986, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider creation of the Immokalee
Airport Advisory Board of Collier County.
Public Work~ Administrator Kuck stated he would like the Board to
also consider Item 9B4 as a companion item, which is a resolution
creating the Technical Advisory Committee. He said that the objective
1s for the Board to adopt an ordinance and resolution, allowing lease
holders at the Immokalee Airport and residents in the surrounding
areas to participate in the Immokalee Airport Advisory Board and
Immokalee Airport Technical Advisory Committee. Their purpose, he
indicated, is to advise the Board of County Commissioners and the
Airport Manager in the operation and proper development of the
Immokalee Airport and its effect on the Immokalee area and Collier
County. He said that the Advisory Board will be a long-term organiza-
tion while the Technical Advisory Committee will be in existence only
until the Immokalee Master Plan is accepted. He said that the Board
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organizations and staff will be responsible to monitor meetings for
the two organizations, to keep informed of the organizations' con-
cerns, ideas and solutions. He said that the Advisory Board is pro-
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posed to be five members appointed by this Commission and the
Technical Advisory Committee, will have a maximum of l2 members.
Mr. Kuck stated that at this time the Board is requested to
the attached Ordinance creating the Immokalee Airport Advisory
commissioner Voss moved, seconded by commissioner Holla~d and
oarried unanimo\'ely, that the public hearing be closed.
Commissione~ Holland moved, seconded by Commissioner Hasse and
carried unanimously, that the Ordinance as numbered and entitled below
be adopted and entered into ordinance Book No. 23:
ORDINANCE 841-30
AN ORDINANCB CREATING THE IMHOXALEB AIRPORT ADVISORY
BOARD OP COLLIER COUNTY' PROVIDING FOR APPOINTMENT AND
REMOVAL 01 MEMBERSs PROVIDING lOR OFFICERS; PROVIDING
FOR MEETINGS; PROVIDING lOR ADVISORY BOARD RESPONSIBILI -
TIES; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY; AND
PROVIDING AN EPPECTIVE DATE.
Item 113
RESOLUTION .6-112, CREATING THE IMMOXALEB AIRPORT TECHNICAL ADVISORY
COUNCIL - ADOPTED
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carried unanimously, that Resolution .6-112 creatinq the Immokalee
Airport Technical Advisory Council be adopted.
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Itell 114
REPORT ACCEPTED AND STAFF AUTHORIZED TO ADVERTISB FOR P~BLIC HEARING
TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCB TO CREATE THE NORTH NAPLES
ROADWAY ASSESSMENT DISTRICT ON JULY 22, 1986
Public Works Administrator Kuck stated that the objective of this
is to afford review and comments from the Board with respect to the
preliminary engÍl'eer ing report and receive author ization for the Staff
to schedule a public hearing to create the North Naples Roadway
Assessment District. He stated that on March 19, 1985, the Board
adopted Ordinance 8S-l3 creating the North Naples Roadway MSTU to pro-
vide funds to prepare the preliminary engineering report which was a
result of a petition being received from 60\ of the property owners in
the district. He noted that subsequently, on August 20, 1985, a
contract was awarded to Hole, Montes & Associates to prepare the pre-
liminary engineering report for the subject project. He noted that
the consultant has substantially completed their task and presented
the results to the property owners at a public meeting on June 11,
1986. He reported that the same information along with Comments from
the property owners will be presented to the Board by the consultant
~ as part of this request.
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the boundaries are I-75, the County Line, Old 4l, New 4l, and
He noted that the roadway alignment is semi-fixed at
four points I and that the western point will tie into Old 4l and is
the Imperial Lakes PUD.
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roadway alignment falls in line
with Imperial Street in Lee County, which will be improved. He stated
that the southern point is aligned with the section line and the
future northern extension of Livingston Road. He stated that the
eastern terminus aligns with a future plan to provide an overpass over
1-75 along easements that have been acquired through the rezoning pro-
cess with the Parklands.
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adding that there is an area of property that contains a lot of
environmentally sensitive lands. He stated that this area was
reviewed in detail with DER, the Army Corp of Engineers, and South
Florida Water Management District, and they have indicated to him that
the two best alignments have been selected. He stated that the corri-
dor location shows two alternates and his recommendation is the use of
the western alignment because it impacts a fewer number of small par-
cel owners and due to the ownership in the area, it will lend itself
to better-future intersections along the arterial. He stated that
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with regard to the assessment method, generally it is done on a front
footage basis, adding that in this case there are property owners that
lie on the future corridor and some that lie further away from that
corridor. He stated that the assesament formula that was deemed to be
acceptable was based on 40' of the assessment by acreage, 20' by fron-
tage, 20' by proximity to new roads, and 20' by proximity to existing
roads. He stat~1 that a point system was uaed from zero to six, indi-
cating that the property owners that were assigned zero had less than
330 feet of frontage, therefore, in the formula they have no
assessment attributed to their parcel. He stated that with reference
to proximity to existing roads, the point system runs from zero to
five and those that touch an existing road get assigned a point value
of zero and therefore, they drop out. He noted that people on
Immokalee Road have access or potential access and their portion of
the assessment on that increment is much less.
Commissioner Pistor questioned when the decision will be made on
the alternates, to which Mr. Glaubitz stated that during the public
hearings this will be decided, adding that they are requesting that
the first hearing be held on July 22, 1986.
Mr. Jerome Smith, representing the property owners that are in
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'~~: favor of this ~istrict, indica~ed that he was simply available for
questions.
Mr. Joseph Weinfeld stated that he is a Trustee of one of, the pro-
perties in the District and is in favor of the establishment of the
road district.
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Commissioner Holland moved, seconde4 by Commissioner Voss an4
oarri.d unanimou.ly, that the pr.liminary engin.ering report be
accepted and staff authorized to advertise for a public hearing to be
held on July 22, 1986, to con.id.r the adoption of an or4inance to
oreat. the North Naples Road A.....m.nt District.
Item US
SHORT LIST OF CONSULTANTS RB RESOURCE RECOVERY FACILITY - APPROVED.
ROY P. WESTON, INC. DELETED FROM LIST. SARGENT , LUNDY ADDED AS THIRD
CONSULTANT. STAPP AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR PHASE ONE
ENGINEERING SERVICES. COUNTY MANAGER, COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND CHAIRMAN
EMPOWERED TO EXECUTE CONTRACT IP ACCEPTABLB
Assistant County Manager Dorrill stated that this item was added
to the agenda this date as a result of the selection process that
County Staff has been engaged in related to resource recovery. He
noted that as part of the resource recovery effort, in order to break
escrow, there is a requirement to hire an independent engineer, adding
that the engineers proposed scope of services is in two phases. He
stated that the first phase is to provide and undertake a technical and
economical fea.ibility report that will be done primarily for the
Trustee for the bondholders to satisfy the requirements in both the
prospectus and the security that is being prepared for this project by
the "Letter of Credit" Bank. He stated that the first phase will allow
them to review the process that is proposed from a technical feasibi-
lity standpoint and to determine if the economics and the power
generating capabilities, as well as the resale of the RDF materials,
are reasonable as proposed. He stated that this would protect the
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potential bondholders and the "Letter of Credit" Bank that acts as
security for the bonds. He indicated that the second phase, if the
project breaks escrow end the money is converted into construction
funds, would be the construction monitoring and progress payment end
approval of pay request to draws from the Trustee, adding th~t this
engineer would a;tually watch over the money as it sits in the
Trustee's hands to protect the interest of the bondholders again as
the construction, the performance testing, the acceptance and start-up
of the plant is done. He stated that he had solicited responses for
the RFP at the end of May and 17 proposals were received by the
deadline of May 30, 1986. He noted that there was a consultant selec-
tion committee that was formed and five firms were invited to make
oral presentations before the committee on June 12, 1986. He stated
that as a result of that deadline and recognizing that the Board was
going on vacation, this is the reason that this item was added this
date. He noted that as a result of the presentations and the short
list, the recommendations for the three top firms from the selection
committee are R. W. Beck & Associates being rated number one; Metcalf
and Eddy, Inc. was rated number two; and Roy F. Weston, Inc. was rated
~)' number three.
He noted that the other two firms that were involved
were Sargent & Lundy and PRC Consoer Townsend. He steted that the
recommendetion is that the Board approve the selection committee
shortlist, euthorize Staff to negotiete the contrect for services
identified in Phese One only at this time, end to empower the County"
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Manager to execute that contract in the Board's absence with a report
back to the Board for concurrence.
Commissioner Pistor questioned why the contract has to be executed
before July 22, 1986, when the Board comes back from vacation, to
which Mr. Dorrill stated that it does not need to be executed, but
Staff does need to proceed with their work which will take approxima-
tely 4 to 6 weeks to do the technical and economic feasibility in
order to close 0;\ the escrow bonds by October l, 1986.
Commissioner Pistor stated that there is lO weeks between July 22,
1986, and October 1, 1986, and he does not understand why it has
to be negotiated while the Board is on vacation.
Mr. Dorrill stated that in addition to the requirements to break
the escrow and financing, Staff is also pursuing the necessary permits
that are required for air quality, solid waste, wastewater, and con-
sumptive use of water permits. He stated that the~e are also the
issues involving the financing, which is a very complicated procedure,
adding that Staff is desirous of being able to save those four to five
weeks that the Board is on vacation.
Commissioner Pistor questioned if Staff is preparing the permits I
to which Mr. Dorrill stated that the permitting is already underway
and has been filed, noting that Staff is in a review and comment
period for DER and South Florida Water Management District. He stated
that they have 30 to 4S days to look at the permits and ask for addi-
tional information if it is necessary.
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Mr. Lusk questioned if there is an estimated cost for the con-
sultant, to which Mr. Dorrill replied negatively, adding that the
Board could authorize Staff to incur cost up to a certain point and
hold the actual execution of the contract until the return of the
Board.
In answer to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. Dorrill stated that the per-
mits have been ¡iled by Westinghouse, but for obvious reasons Staff
has more than just a casual interest but the most important is for
Staff to continue to strive to meet the October lst date. He stated
that if that date is not met, the County will be involved in a process
to revise the Indentures of Trust to extend the date. He noted that
it would be a further delay if the County had to prepare all the
necessary documents in order to enter into an extension beyond October
1, 1986.
In answer to Commissioner Pistor, Mr. Dorrill stated that Collier
County is incurring cor.ts as there is a long list of conditions that
must be met and in the event that this project does not go, Collier
County will have to repay those costs which will amount to about a
half million dollars.
~,:f. Commissioner Voss stated that he spent his whole working life in,
power plants with engineering firms and to him, this project is a
power plant, adding that he would have been much happier if a power
plant engineer had been selected other than the ones that were
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Mr. Lusk stated that the first hurdle that has to be cleared with
the engineers is that this is a feasible project, adding that the bank
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He stated that this company has to be acceptable to a bank and a lot
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the fluidized bed. He stated that R. W. Beck and Associates was a
unanimous firs, place choice as far as the committee was concerned.
He stated that Westinghouse is doing a project in Erie, Pennsylvania
and they ysed Weston Engineer for this report on the feasibility and
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the bank turned Weston down and it took another three months before
another engineer was hired. He noted that the bank hired R. W. Beck &
Associates to finish the project. He stated that it is almost
guaranteed that this company will be acceptable to the bank. He
reported that R. W. Beck & Associates has good experience in Resource
Recovery and that is very important in this project, adding that they
have experience in the fluidized bed.
Mr. Dorrill stated that there is no doubt that this project is a
power plant but it is also a garbage plant and a recycling plant as
well and it is important that the County :ecognizes that power genera-
tion is a major activity of the plant and, therefore, the concerns and
anxieties of the financial and bonding interest in the "Letter of
Credit" Bank must also be resolved. He stated that the experience
list of R. W. Beck and Associates shows numerous projects from 50 tons
a day to 3,OOO,tons a days for resource recovery facilities. He
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stated that they have performed identical services to what the County
requested with regards to the technical and economical feasibility and
evaluation, as well as the construction monitoring progress report and
start up of the plant facilities, which is why they are being recom-
mended as the first choice of the Committee.
Mr. John Keschl questioned what type of rating this engineering
firm has, to wlach Mr. Dorrill stated that engineering companies in
general are not publicly held and traded business activities, adding
that in most instances if there is stock, it is privately owned and
held or in many cases, they are held in partnership and as a result of
that, they do not have a credit rating. Mr. Doriill stated that he
checked the representative list of experience, adding that their pre-
sentation and the understanding of the scope of work was excellent.
Mr. tusk stated that on the Erie, Pa. project, the Bank contacted
R. W. Beck & Associates, adding that neither Westinghouse or Erie
hired them. He stated that the County is looking for a company for
Phase One that is going to be acceptable to the bank. He stated that
he knows they can do the project because they have already done the
same feasibility report for the Erie project. He stated that this
company will not be working for the County, they will be working for "
the Trustee as an independent engineer who represents the bondholders.
He stated that they will not necessarily represent the County or
Westinghouse.
Commissioner Pistor questioned what the County's financial obliga-
tion will be with respect to R. W. Beck & Associates, to which Mr.
tusk that the financial obligation will come out of the bond proceeds.
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County Manager Lusk stated that he would like the Board to know
how the top five firms were selected. He reported that Westinghouse
had to be agreeable with the company selected by the County and
paineWebber wanted to be sure that the company would be acceptable to
the Bank, therefore, Westinghouse came up with a list that was
acceptable to them from the 17 companies that submitted proposals and
paineWebber submitted their list of companies that would be 'acceptable
to them. He st~tcd that the two lists were combined which indicated
that both firms had agreed on five companies that were acceptable
which is how the short list was created. He stated that of the five
companies, the Committee decided unanimously on R. W. Beck &
Associates.
In answer to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. Dorrill stated that R. W.
Beck & Associates has not worked on this exact type of plant, as the
Goteverkan boiler and the National Ecology RDF plant is new and it is
proposed in Erie, Pa., adding that this company was retained by the
"Letter of Credit" Bank to evaluate that system for them, therefore,
they have experience in evaluating this exact system. He stated that
what is needed is authorization to negotiate the contract, adding that
if the Board has some concern about executing the contract until after
vacation, it can be held until that time, but his concern is that
Staff be allowed to get R. W. Beck & Associates started if the
contract is satisfactory to the County Manager'. office and the County
Attorney'. office, so that the four to five weeks is not lost while
the Board is on ' vacation.
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Commissioner Pistor questioned how much the County is going to be
financially obligated for, to which Mr. Dorrill stated that this acti-
vity is paid for from the proceeds of the bonds and will be initially
paid for by the Westinghouse people I but if the project does not go,
then the County '~. an obligation to reimburse Westinghouse.
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Commissioner Holland questioned if Staff could simply negotiate
the contract with the approval of the County Attorney's office and
bring it back to the Board at their first meeting in July, to which
Mr. tusk stated that this could be done if the Board would approve R.
w. Beck & Associates starting certain projects not to exceed $25,000.
He stated that there is certain work that needs to be started imme-
dietely.
Commissioner Hasse questioned what would cause this project to not
go forward, to which Mr. Dorrill stated if the County could not obtain
the environmental permits, could not negotiate a power sales agreement
with a utility company, could not accomplish the financing within the
required time periods or other conditions, the project would not
proceed. He stated that it is the County's desire to keep the project
on track I which is why considerable amounts of staff time is being
~pent in assisting Westinghouse. J;' ç.~ '
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County Attorney could be authorized to execute the contract, which
would mean that three people would have to be in agreen,ent.
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Commissioner Goodnight moved, seconded by Commissioner Voss, that
the short list of oonsultants be approved and that the County
Attorney, County Manager, and Chairman of the Board be authorized to
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in Phase One of the proposed resouro. recovery facility, on behalf of
the Board while they are on vaoation.
Commissioner Voss questioned why Roy F. Weston, Inc. is on the
list if they were unacceptable for the Erie, Pa. job, to which Mr.
Dorrill stated that Roy F. Weston, Inc. was acceptable to the parties
involved, but when it came time for a "Letter of Credit" Bank to pro-
vide the security, their response was that they wanted to reserve the
right of backing the project to have their engineer look over the work
that Roy F. Weston, Inc. was doing to be sure that it was satisfac-
tory"and they at that time, hired R. W. Beck & Associates to review
the wo~~ done by Roy F. Weston, Inc.
C~mmissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Goodnight and
carried unanimously, that there be an amendment to the original motion
deleting Roy F. Weston, Ino. from the consultant short list.
Commissioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Haase, that
there be a second amendment to the original motion adðinq Sarqent ,
~undy to the oonsultant short list in place of Roy F. Weston, Inc. as
the third oonsultant.
Upon call for the question of the original motion, it carried
unanimously.
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Item 11'
COUNTY MANAGER AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE A NEW ARCHITE~TURAL CONTRACT WITH
WINSOR/lARICY TO DBSIGN A NEW COaRTHOaSB AND RENOVATE ~HE EXISTING
ONE, NOT TO BXCEED $500,000 '
County Manager Lusk stated that he is presently negotiating an
agreement with Winsor/Far icy, but the price has not been settled at
this point. He st~ted that he is asking for authorization to sign the
contract with Winsor/Far icy to design a new courthouse and renovate
the existing one in an amount not to exceed $500,000, due to the time
schedule.
commissioner Voss aoved, seconded by Commissioner Goodnight and
carried unanimously, that the County Manaqer be authorized to execute
a new architectural contract with Winsor/laricy to design a new
courthouse and renovate the existing one, not to exceed $500,000.
Item 117
EMERGENCY DECLARED. ORDINANCE 86-31 CREATING THB MARCO ISLAND BEACH
RENOURISHKENT AND PUBLIC ACCBSS KSTU AND PROVIDING lOR A RElERENDUM
ELECTION lOR A TAX TO FUND THE UNIT - ADOPTBD
Assistant County Attorney Weigel stated that on March 4, 1986, the
Board directed that a referendum be placed on the November ballot
regarding the question of creating the Marco Island Beach
Renourishment and Public Access Municipal Service Taxing Unit up to
;~ 1/2 mill. He stated that the proposed ordinance creates that taxing
,~ unit which excludes Goodland, noting that the legal description is
provided within the ordinance and it also provides that the Board
designate an advisory committee composed of residents of the com-
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~t munity. He stated that this needs to be approved in order for this
'~~ proposed ordinance to meet the necessary time constraints, adding that
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t Justice for approval. He noted that it is his recommendation that the
Board determine that an emergency exists and that notice requirements
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carried unanimously, that the Board declare that an emergency exists
and that notice requirement. be waived.
Commis.ioner Voss moved, .econded by Commis.ioner Hasse and
'carried unanimously, that Ordinance 8'-31 creating the Marco Island
Beach Renourishment and Public Access Municipal service Taxing Unit
and providing for a referendum election for its qualified electors
concerning a tax to fund the unit, be adopted.
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RESOLUTION 86-113 ORDERING AND CALLING A REFERENDUM ELECTION TO BE
HELD 11/4/86 IN THE MARCO ISLAND BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND PUBLIC ACCESS
MSTU TO DETERMINE IP THE QUALIFIED BLECTORSRESIDING THEREIN, APPROVE
A TAX LEVY NOT TO EXCEED 1/2 KILL - ADOPTED
Assistant County Attorney Weigel stated that this is a resolution
to determine if the qualified electors residing in the Marco Island
Beach Renourishment and Public Access MSTU approve a tax levy not to
exceed 1/2 mill to provide beach renourishment" improved stormwater
protection and public access to beaches. He stated that this needs to
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be approved in order to hold the referendum election on November 4,
1986.
Comai..loner Vo.. .oved, .eoonded by Commi..ioner Holland and
oarried unanimou.ly, that Re.olution "-113 ordering and callinq a
referendum election to be held November 4, 1986, in the Marco Island
Beach Renouri.~~nt and Public Aoce.. MSTU to determine if the
qualified elector. re.idinq therein, approve a tax levy not to exoeed
1/2 .ill, to provide beach renouri.hment, improved .tormwater protec-
tion and public acce.. to beaches be adopted.
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'1'HIRD AMENDMENT TO THZ BBACH ACCBSS ~ACILITIES AGREBMENT BETWEBN
COLLIBR COUNTY, THB ASSOCIATION OP UNIT OWNERS OP THE REGISTRY HOTEL
AT PELICAN BAY, INC. AND WESTINGHOUSB COMMUNITIES OP NAPLES, INC. _
APPROVED WITH AMENDMENTS
Assistant County Attorney Weigel stated that before the Board this
past month was an agenda item concerning the approval of a construc-
tion contract for the boardwalk to which this amendment pertains. He
stated that this third amendment was reworked since that meeting with
the Board, addi~; that this particular Third Amendment to the beach
access facilities agreement provides at the present time that the AUO
party shall be contributing $125,000 to be paid to the County on or
before August l, 1986. He stated that it also provides for approval
of the site plan for the beachside facilities and the public parking
lot and they are referenced as exhibits to the Third Amendment. He
stated that it further provides that there will be a contribution of
$15,000 to be paid to the County on August l, 1986, in lieu of comple-
tion by AUO of the parking lot, adding that an arrangement was reached
wherein the parking lot is going to be used by the contractor as a
staging area for part of the construction of the boardwalk and it
would not be beneficial to the County to have the parking lot finished
~1 prior to the ,boardwalk being completed, therefore, AUO will contribute
$15,000 for the County to complete the parking lot at the appropriate
time that the boardwalk i. completeð. He noteð that there will be a
contribution of $2,720 to be paid to the County on August 1, 1986, in
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lieu of AUO providing certain vegetative landscaping that will not be
required because of the masonry wall that is being constructed around
the parking lot facility, adding that this does not change the other
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He indicated that there is also a provision in the
AUO providing a gas generator for the power source at the beachside
facilities, adding that if the County determines that they will uti-
lize and provide some otner means of electrical service to the
beachside facilities, AVO will make such payment by November l, 1986.
He noted that the Agreement further provides that AUO shall have the
right to connect to the boardwalk at such location as it may select at
AVO's cost and their obligation is to obtain all necessary governmen-
tal permits. He noted that AVO will have access to the beachside
facilities by means of a motorized tram system or golf carts, the cost
of which will be the sole responsibility of AVO. He stated that
Article XXII was added, which references the original beachside
facilities agreement, that clarifies the fact that the dock-boat-dock
system previously addressed in the agreement is expressly deleted and
further states that no boating or docking facilities is included
within the agreement. He stated that ~here are a few clarifications
that need to be made in the Third Amendment Agreement, noting that on
Page 1 under the last "WHEREAS", it should read "AVO is responsible
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for the performance of SHELTER SEAGATE CORPORATION'S obligations
arising out of the Beach Access Facilities Agreement and is SHELTER'S
designated successor to its rights and obligations pursuant to the
Agreement. He noted that on Page 2 of the agreement the last sentence
should read, "T~; parties hereto agree to an extension of the
construction completion date for the Boardwalk, Parking Lot, and the
Beachside facilities, to and including Apr.il 1, 1987. He stated that
on Page 3 of the agreement the first sentence under (b) should read,
"AUO shall have the right to connect to the Boardwalk at such location
as it may select, subject to review and approval of weN." He stated
that on the last page, the signature for Byron R. Koste states
Executive Vice President, adding,that he is, in fact, President.
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Mr. Richard Aaron, representing Shelter Seagate Corporation,
8tated that he has no problems or Óbjections to these changes.
Commissioner Voss aoved, 8econded by Commissioner Hasse and
carried unanimou.ly, that the Third Amendment to the Beach Acces.
7acilities Aqreement between Collier County, the Association of Unit
OWners of the Registry Hotel at Pelican Bay, Inc. and Westinghouse
Communities of Naples, Inc. be approved with the above-referenced
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Item 120
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ALLIGATOR ALLEY ACCESS - NO DISCUSSION DUB to PENDING LAWSUIT
commissioner Pistor stated that as of lO:23 A.M. this date, a
civil action declaration was filed agairst Collier County a~d him as
Chairman pertaining to Alligator Alley access and since there is now
litigation in~olved, the least that is said about this issue I the
better, therefore, this item was not discussed at all.
Item '21 ¡ I
DISCUSSION ON OVERALL DRAINAGE FOR PA~ILION~ 'BEACHWALX AND NAPLES
TO BB BROUGHT BACX ON JULY 29, 1986 '
Publio Works Administrator Kuck stated that at the May 27, 1986,
Board meeting, Staff was direc~ed to l~ok at the overall drainage for
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the Pavilion, Beachwalk and Naples Park and' to investigate if the pro-
posed wall has any effect on the drainage for the area. He stated
that he is available as well as Staff to answer any questions for the
people that are present. I
Mr. Redmond Jones, President of the Naples Park ~rea Association,
read a letter stating that Gleaning out the swales is not going to be
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effective in the Naples Park area. He 'stated that since the addition
of the Pavilion overflow, many residents have been flooded and never
were before. He ooted that if t~e Beachwalk overflow is added, it
will aggrev~t~the·situation further. He indicated that the drainage
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and 92nd Avenue and as large as 40 feet at Bth Street between 9lst and
92nd Avenues. He noted that to widen it anymore than it is now would
be infringing on the rights of the people that live in that area. He
stated that the Beachwalk and Pavilion developments have been given
the solution to their drainage that would take care of their 3-day
25-year storm by putting their run-off water into the Naples Park
ðrainage canal~, but it increases the problems of Naples Park. He
stated that Naples Park is entitled to a solution with a 3-day 25-year
storm system. He noted that Naples Park represents 3,000 registered
voters and they respectfully request that the County draw up a compre-
hensive plan for Naples Park to bring this area up to the needed man-
dated standards of the rest of the County. He stated that the study
that is going to cost between $75,000 and $IOO,OOO should not cause
any fu!ther damage, and proof should be submitted to that effect.
Staff Engineer Mellen stated that with regards to the existing or
pre-construction conditions of drainage in the Naples Park area, there
were two crossings at 9lst Avenue North and one crossing near 8th Street
which were existing prior to the Pavilion being built, which incorporated
the drainage from a large cypress slough on the west side of U.S. 41
and extended east of u.s. 41. He stated that prior to the construc- , .
~.( tion of Naples Park, that slough flowed toward the Gulf of Mexico, b'u't>/t~::,
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it and in doing so, the culvert was put under 9lst Avenue and then
incorporated the drainage system from Naples Park with that slough
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outfall down to 9lst and 92nd Avenue to the Lagoon. He stated that
the other existing outfall in the area is a few hundred feet east of
Vanderbilt Drive, which cross connects the road swale from the south
side of 9lst Avenue North to the north side, thence through the
culvert beneath Vanderbilt Drive into the Lagoon. He reported that
when the Pavilion was constructed, a lake was built on-site to collect
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all the on-sit~ ·un-off with a weir structure to regulate the quantity
of discharge, anð through a conduit, they piped it to the existing
culvert under 9Ist Avenue, adding that they also reworked the slough
outfall so that the connection could still be made at that existing
crossing so that they would not cause any flooding east of U.S. 41 or
to their northeast corner. He indicated that the Beachwalk
Development has a master drainage plan that has been presented and
approved by South Florida Water Management District and Collier
County. He stated that in their plan, they proved to the County
Staff and the District's satisfaction that they could adequately
handle the 25-year 3-day storm which everyone is concerned about. He
stated that they are capable of handling on-site all the water
generated by them, limiting the discharge from the site to .4 cubic
feet per second per acre, which is a very small amount of water that
is leaving the property even in a large storm. He noted that the
Beachwalk total drainage area is 60 acres and the Naples Park drainage
area is a little over 300 acres, adding that the Beachwalk is pro-
viding 8.6 acres of retention and lakes and Naples Park does not have
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auch a aystem. He indicated that the Beachwalk is providing two weir
structures and Naples Park only has culverts under the driveways. He
noted that for the 2S-year storm event, the Beachwalk has a peak
discharge of 24 cfs of water and if Naples Park were able to get all
the water to Van~"rbilt Drive, it would have passed 496 cfs of water.
He noted that the Beachwalk has 1/20 the amount of run-off leaving
their property that Naples Park area is generating. He reported that
the Beachwalk is storing 82' of the amount of run-off it is
generating, and Naples Park is storing none by design except for the
toad flooding. He stated that he ia worried about the flooding in
Naples Park affecting the Beachwalk. He stated that in his opinion,
the Beachwalk would have no impact on Naples Park nor has the Pavilion
in the past. He noted that the Pavilion was designed under the same
criteria as the Beachwalk. He noted that if there is any increase in
flows, he feels that it is generated from the large cypress area east
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of U.S. 41, adding that the Pavilion and the Beachwalk are very well
designed.
In answer to Commissioner Pistor, Mr. Mellen stated that thc. flow
from the Cypress area comes under U.S. 41 through a culvert.
'~ff~'~' Commissioner Pistor questioned if the water in the lakes of the
'~:'.:(pavilion and the proposed Beachwalk aeep downward at any known rate or
.' is the bottom impervious, to which Mr. Mellen stðted that there were
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aome areas in the Beachwalk area that were isolated low areas that
became bogs that the water did not percolate at all anå they became
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little swamps, but other than that, traditionally in the northern part
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, :,'" ..'-'~ Commissioner Pistor questioned how this matter will be relieved,
~~;,' to which Public Works Administrator Kuck stated that the Board
~,. directed him at the June l6, 1986, meeting to hold a public hearing on
~"i~-t'juiy 29th and ;:. that time, a decision will be made whether 'to go for-
ward or not with a preliminary design feasibility report on Naples
Park area. He stated that this district would be bounded on the east
by u.s. 4l, on the north by lllth Avenue, on the west by the Bay, and
on the south by Vanderbilt Beach Road which would include the Pavilion
a8 well as the Beachwalk. He stated that there are 4,435 platted lots
in the district, noting that the property owners would be assessed for
the preliminary engineering report which would be $20 to $25 per lot
cost.
Commissioner Voss stated that the whole area was poorly done in
the first place and the only way to fix this problem is to study the
whole area and then come up with options and decide what can or cannot
be afforded, but until that is done, the flooding problems will never
be corrected. He stated that a part of this study might be whether or
not to eliminate all the swales and put pipe in instead, but this will
be very expensive, but at this point; it is not known how much it is
going to cost, and the decision will be up to the people if they want
it.
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Mr. Jon.s stated that 1985 had a very dry summer, but since the
Pavilion has been piping their overflow to Naples Park swale, there
has been flooding that has never occurred before.
Transportation Director Archibald stated that he has kept track of
that drainage system closely for more than five years and each year
the problem has progressively gotten worse, adding that there is a lot
of growth and ~"ery time one of thoø. vacant lots is built on, that
lot becomes an impervious area and the run-off increases. He noted
that over the last few years, the run-off has increased drastically in
Naples Park area from the growth. He stated that there are at least
three different areas in Naples Park that are inundated on a regular
basis and those areas are not impacted at all by the discharge or the
flow-wayø provided through the Pavilion, adding that it mayor may not
have an affect on some of the areas in Naples Park that are being
inundated on an annual basi..
Mr. Jones stated that the flow from the Pavilion and the Beachwalk
is being turned north which is against the natural flow, and when
those systemø meet, there is violent churning of ~he water.
Mr. Archibald stated that he has seen areas inundated in Naples
Park and the flow from the 9lst-92nd Avenue ditch being rapid and no
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flow at all coming out of the Pavilion Shopping Center~
Mrs. Dolores Seacline stated that the drainage ditch has been
widened by erosion and has also caused the power pole in the area to
become extremely loose. She stated that she has seen a lot of water
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.. coming out of the Pavilion, adding that the reeidents want to have
Beachwalk development is not going to
them any further flooding.,
issue in having a study would be
would reach after a certain
event, which would help indicate what areas are subject to
flooding and what the solutions may be.
Mrs. Seacline stated that the ditch fills up to the top because
'once it gets down to Vanderbilt it meets the high tide and then it
backs up and has no place to go. '
Mr. Archibald stated that almost every system that there is in the
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Mr. Jones stated that due to the growth in Naples Park, it has
been indicated that this has caused a lot of run-off, noting that when
the Beachwalk is developed this will cause a tremendous amount of run-
off.
, ' Mr. Archibald stated that the Beachwalk run-off is being contained
in a lake system so that while their run-off may occur, discharge does
not occur immediately. He stated that one of the problems in Naples
Park is that when rainfall occurs, discharge is started immediately,
as there is no retention capability. He stated that there could be a
situation that would occur where the water coming out of Naples Park
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would be impacted by the water coming from the Beachwalk development
and that situation could be addressed by the weirs and the throttling
down of any discharge from the area south of 9lst Avenue. He stated
that this would come out in the study.
Public Works Administrator Kuck stated that there has been
drainage probl~s for years and years according to the history of
Naples Park, adding that the Pavilion and the Beachwalk development
are putting water into the system, but by their design, they are not
putting in anymore than they did prior to development. He stated that
they should share in the cost of the study along with the Naples Park
area. He stated that prior to any development, there was a cypress
slough and all of Naples Park drained into that area. He stated that
with drainage laws, water has to be accepted from an upstream project.
Mrs. Theresa Imery stated that in the last three years, there has
been water sitting on 97th Avenue, but it also backs up from Bth
Street.
Mr. Kuck stated that this is the reason that he is recommending
that this study be done, so that it can be determined what the
,'. ' problems are' in order to correct them. He stated that the
;; cost of the preliminary design is very affordable, adding that until
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he has a better tool to work with, he is limited as to what can be
done to correct the situation.
Commissioner Voss stated that the problems have to be determined
or an effective solution to the problem cannot be reached. He stated
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that hopefully, if the study is done, by next year when the dry season
arrives, they will be in a position to make some decisions as to what
to do with the area. He stated that if Naples Park was designed now,
'there would be retention ponds throughout Naples Park, but it cannot
be done now as there are homes there and there is no place left for
'the ponds. He noted that there has to be another way to best accom-
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modate it, noting that there will never be a perfect solution, but the
j 'idea is to minimize the effect during heavy storms, and this cannot be
~> done until the study is made.
;J~;~~(: M;. Dennis. ill stated that he feels that the study is needed, but
~" "duri~9 the last few years there has been numerous changes. He stated
that last year, he and other residents were told that the drainage
pipes in front of their homes were too high and needed to be lowered,
which they did. He noted that the County excavated the area and
covered it over after he had the pipe installed, adding that after a
rainfall the water now stands there. He stated that he never had
standing water prior to changing the level of the pipe. He stated
that it makes him skeptical when people try to change the flow of the
water.
Mr. Archibald stated that Naples Park does not have a master
drainage plan and every time a culvert has to be installed, it
requires a survey party to go out and survey the upstream and
downstream location to determine the elevation and the size of the
pipe. He stated that one item that would result from this overall
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study would be a master plan that would address for each lot the
ðrainage for that lot, the slope, the pipe size, and the direction of
flow.
Mr. Bob Krasowski questioned why the area east of U. S. 41 has not
been included in the study and also questioned how it effects the
overall drainage problem?
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Mr. Mellen stated that any district has flexible boundaries and as
the study is generated, the actual area that contributed to the
situation that is being studied would be included in the district and
some areas that are included initially may be deleted. He stated that
for the discussion this date, they are talking Naples Park area, but
it may be determined that the property to the North and t~ the East
may be included.
Mr. Krasowski stated that everyone agrees that there is ~ problem
" end it has to be determined as to who affects what and to what degree,
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adðing that he is concerned with the price of the study, noting
instead of a consulting engineer, the County could do the work.
Mr. Kuck stated that he is of the opinion that the County should
get a full fledged preliminary engineering design and feasibility
report because there is a major drainage problem in the area and the
','; County does 'not have enough personnel in the Public Works or
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is of the essence and if it was done by County staff, it would take ,
several years. He stated that the report,may include other areas and
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the District may need to be expanded, which would reduce the indivi-
dual expense.
Mrs. Diane Geisler stated that the various storm events cannot be
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used as they have not proven accurate in the past few years, as there
was Tropical Storm Bob and the No-Name Storm. She stated that u.s. 41
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In answer to Mrs. Geisler regarding the drainage for the Beachwalk
development, Mr. Mellen stated that there is a two-directional system
that has been designed and will be constructed for the Beachwalk which
has Lake "A" on the eastern portion of the property which will
discharge at 7th Street and Lakes "B" and "C" are interoonnècted to
the west and will go into the wetland area east of the property, which
will be controlled by a weir between 9lst and 92nd Avenue.
Mrs. Geisler stated that there is a problem with the drainage bet-
ween 8th Street and 7th Street because there is always a lot of water
there, but between 7th Street and 6th Street, there is very little
water. She stated that the canals should be cleaned out every year.
Mr. Archibald stated that Bth Street receives almost all the
drainage from 7th Street and U.S. 41 as it Is a low area and there is
only one outfall on 8th Street, which ends up going down Bth Street to
the 91st-92nd Avenue ditch. He stated that in one area in the last
few years the pipes have been doubled and tripled jn an attempt to
carry more water to the 9lst-92nd Avenue ditch.
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Mrs. Geisler questioned if the Beachwalk development is going to
continue while this study is going on, to which Mr. Archibald stated
that the Beachwalk has its permits and will go forward.
Commissioner Pistor stated that the maps from the Beachwalk
development shows elevations and waterflows, but there are no maps for
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the Naples Park area, which will be developed during the study. He
stated that the .,'!achwalk development cannot be held up during this
study as they have met all the necessary requirements.
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Mr. Redmond questioned if there is any information on the proposed
wall for the Beachwalk development, to which Mr. Kuck stated that the
proposed wall will not have any detrimental effect on the drainage.
Commissioner Pistor questioned it the water from Lakes "A", "B",
and "C", of the Beachwalk development could be directed to the west
end of the Development into the Lagoon, to which Bruce Green of Bruce
Green & Associates, design engine~r for Beachwalk development, stated
that the SFWMD's conceptual plan was followed. He stated that what
goes into Lake "A" is the water that naturally flows there. He stated
that tryin~ to run all this water to the west may create a larger
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fY . Commissioner Pistor stated that the County should proceed with the
I: ¡iVß tudy in o,de< to de te<mine whet neede to he done, eddi n9 thet mo,"
~; information will be obtained and this matter will be brought back to
:c the Board on July 29, 1986.
~!1~'" ' M:: J~nes questioned what the design of the proposed wall for the
t~ Beachwalk developm~nt is going to look like, to which Mr. Grover
~' Erickson, representing the Beachwalk development, stated that the wall
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will be built to code and will be a 6 foot high masonry wall. He
Mr. Kuck stated that one of the problems is that drainage law does
noted that it will be on the property line and will be built 6' above
ground level. He reported that the wall zigzags, adding that it goes
about 60' and then recesses in about 3' all the way along. He stated
that where it recesses, shrubs and trees will be added. He stated
that as far as the drainage is concer~ed, the Beachwalk development
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on July 29, 1985, for further discussion.
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There being no further business for the Good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned at 3s15 P.M. by Order of the Chair.
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