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Naples, Florida, January 16, 1987
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning
Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 1:00 P.M. _"1 JOINT VlORKSIIOP SESSION with
the City of Naples Councilmen and Mayor .n Building "F" of the
Courthouse Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
COUNTY
CITY
CHAIRMAN: Max A. Hasse, Jr.
MAYOR: Ed Putz~ll
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Arnol~ Lee Glass
Lyle Richardson
Burt L. Saunders
Anne Goodnight
Kim Anderson-McDonald
William Bledsoe
Alden Crawford, Jr.
John Graver
ALSO PRESENT: Maureen Kenyon, Deputy Clerk; Donald B. Lusk,
County Manager; Neil Dorrill, Assistant County Manager; Bruce
Anderson, Assistant County Attorney; Tom Crandall, Utilities
Administrator; Frank Jones, City Manager; Dave Rynders, City Attorney;
Jim Chaffey, City Utilites Director; Tom Taylor of lIole, Montes &
Associates; Nancy Israelson, Administrative Assistant to the Board.
AGENDA
County/City Water-Sewer Discussion
DISCUSSION RE EXISTING & FUTURE WATER/SEWER PLANS FOR COUNTY AND CITY
Commissioner Hasse stated that the purpose of this meeting is to
discuss water supplies that are available and what might be available
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in the future and how the City and the County could work together.
Utilities Administrator Crandall stated that the Utilities
Department is procecdi~g ahead with dates and time on installing water
plant expansions and water mains to me t commitments that the County
currently has. lie stated that the City dnd County entercd into an
interlocal agceement regarding water service to portions of East and
South Naples as well as the area north of Pine Ridge Road in 1977,
adding that a lot has happened since that time and there has been
several amendments and several addendums to the Agreement. He stated
that this agreement was done in order to provide an orderly tran-
sition of service from the City to the County in the time frame that
would allow for the City to use that plant capacity for the 180
District. He noted that the County assumed responsibility for water
service to those portions ,of East and South Naples in August of 1984,
which was at the completion of the construction of the'~egional Water
Treatment Plant on C.R. 951, north of Interstate 1-75. He stated that
Phase I was comprised of a 4 million gallon a day line sOftening water
treatment plant; 5 million gallon a day wells located in North Golden
Gate Estates; a 30 inch raw water line from the wellfields to the
water treatment plant; a 20 inch finished water transmission main from
the water treatment plant south to U.S. 41; and other miscellaneous
water main extensions. He noted that also included in the 1977
City/County Agreement is a provision for the County to take respon-
sibility to service north of Pine Ridge Road and this is a primary
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purpose of this meeting. He indicated that water master planning
efforts started in December of 1984 by the Board of County
Commissioners' authorization to enter into an agreement for
engineering services with Hole, Montes & Associates and PRC. He
stated that Mr. Tom Taylor of Hole, M~ntes & Associates will give a
presentation on how much work went int~ che master plannng effort.
Utilities Administrator Crandall stated that there are numerous
questions that have been asked over the last few months that need to
be addressed, adding that he will ask the questions that he has been
asked and then answer them. H~ asked what is the County's current
water treatment plant capacity versus its system demands? He stated
that the answer to tbat is that the current water treatment plant
capacity is 4 miiÍion gallons a day at the regional facility and there
is a 1.25 mgd capacity at the East Naples plant. He stated that the
average daily demand on the regional facility is 3 million gallons,
which does not take into account the peaK period and the demand on the
Glades facility is about a half million gallons a day. He stated that
with the Glades facility, there are commitments that do not allow for
any gredt expansion of customers to that plant. He indicated that the
County is nearing the maximum ability to provide the water that is
needed from the regional facility. He noted that another question
was, what is the County doing to provide for growth to its water
system as well as to provide for meeting the commitments outlined in
the 1977 interlocal agreement? He state~ that on April 8, 1986, the
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Board ~pproved a contract for en9inee~ing services to design an expan-
sion for the regional water treatment plant and the bids will be
opened this week and he plans on moving forward with this rapidly. He
noted that it is a 6 million gallon a day expansion which will make a
total of 10 million gallons a day, but it is being designed in such a
way that the tanks are built in 4 mill:on gallon pods so that in the
event there was a real urgent need to p ~p more than 10 million
gallons a day, it could be done for short periods of time, adding that
12 million gallons a day could be put through the plant. He stated
that another question was, how is the County going to get the water
from its regional water treatment plant to the North Carica Road tank
and to the customers north of Pine Ridge Road? He noted that the
Board has committed the County by approving a contract for engineering
design of a 36 inch and a 30 inch water transmission main that will be
run north along C.R. 951 and then westerly along the Vanderbilt Beach
Road Extension to the Carica Road tank. He stated that.this design is
to be completed by March 30, 1987. He stated that a big question is,
how is the County going to pay for all these improvements? He indi-
cated that the 1986/87 budget did allow for the improvements of the
plant expansion and the water transmission main to the north and sub-
sequent to that, the water rates were adjusted to be in line with the
budget th~t was prepared in May, 1986. He stated that water user
rates were increased on September 23, 1986, to provide for debt ser-
vice coverage based on the engineering estimates, adding that they are
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fairly accurate to what was anticipated. He reported that a bond po~l
was approved on August 6, 1986, which also helps provide for a source
of funding, although ttlere ere no commitments rate wise to draw from
that bond except for the 14 million d~ Jars that was put in this years
budget. He stated that it is enticipated that future rete adjustments
or system development charge adjustments may give a better ability to
draw from that pool, adding that it makes an easier process. He
reported that another ~uestion wes, when will all the construction
take place? He reported that additional storage at the regional water
treatment plent has been completed, adding that a 6 million gallon
tank was recently instelled as well as the associated piping, which
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will help during thp. high demand peaks that ar~ being experienced
during this time of year. He stated that construction will take pIece
in March on the weter reatment plant expansion and within one year of
lhat date, the plent should be able to produce 10 million gallons e
dey. He stated that the contract has a one year construction date,
but there may still need to be dress-up ar.d painting done at the end
of the year. He state~ that the purpose of this one year time limit
1. the season, adding that he does not want to have to go through two
more seasons without additional capacity. He stated that design of
the North County water transmission main is scheduled for completion
March 30, 1988, with construction to begin in May, 1987, with a 9 to
12 month construction period. He stated ~hat the water transmission
main and the water plant will be completed approximately the same
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time, adding that one is no good without the other.
Mr. Tom Taylor of Hole, Montes & Associates, stated that he has
been working with the County on the utility system for 2-1/2 years,
adding that he has worked on water and sewer and has developed a good
plan for the County that is very agres~ive providing water and sewer
service throughout the County: He staL j that when he first started
working with Collier County, it was recognized that there was not a
real workable master plan with the sufficient detail that was needed
to provide the utility ~ervices over the next 20 years. He noted that
the original master plan or the preceding master plan was done in
1980 and it was recognized that there were basic recommendations that
the County has followe~, but things have changed since that time. He
noted that there are several areas that needed a lot more detail and a
much better guide was needed for all of Collier County in achieving
the goals that were established in the Comprehensive Plan in order to
provide the water and sewer utilities. He indicated tbat there are
two phåses to the Water Master Plan which incorporates seven steps in
those two phases, adding that the first phase was to gather infor-
mation on the existing system which was done on the regional system
and the system in North Naples. He stated that they briefly looked at
the Glades system, the Marco Island system and the Golden Gate system.
He stated that from this information, population projections and land
use studies were developed which is an essential part of the master
plan and from that the water demand projections were developed through
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the next 20 years. He oted that all this information was presented
to the Board for appro\al before they proceeded with Phase II, which
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entailed the evaluation of those existing systems and what their capa-
bilities were to provide that service to the existing and to the
future and projected customer demand. He indicated that from that
treatment distribution and storage alternatives were developed and
then a conceptual design was developed, along with cost estimates and
a phasing program. He stated that this program is very aggressive,
but the County is going to try and sti~ to this program as best they
can in order to provide the service and catch up. He stated that this
long-range plan extends to the year 2005, adding that there have been
some projections made beyond that for water demands, but it is hard to
tell how accurat~rthey will be. He stated that in December 1984, he
was authorized to proceed with the Master Plan'and Phase I was
approved by the Board in October, 1985. He stated that Phase II of
the master plan was completed and approved mid 1986. He indicated
that there was 1-1/2 years worth of effort that went into the master
plan that included population, water demand, and proposed system
improvements to meet the customer growth in the area. He stated that
one of the most important things is the population demands and the
land use studies. He stated that in developing a comprehensive utili-
ties system, various data was used that was gathered from the
Unversity of Florida, Bureau of Economic and Business Resource using
population projects and growth patt~rns that they have indicated that
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the County should have over the next twenty years; the 1980 census
data was used; the 1983 Collier County Comprehensive Plan was used to
try and determine wher6 the growth and the land development is going
to be in Collier County over the twent· years. He stated that the
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official zoning maps were used; geocell data that the Planning
Department as in-house; and v~Lious other data, adding that from all
this information the project and proposed growth was determined and
the location. He noted that the growth pattern of Collier Cou~ty
grows from west to east. He stated that water demand projections
were prepared based on a service area that was approved by the Board
of County Commissioners, which extends to the Isle of Capri, one mile
east of 951 and n~rth of Immokalee Road and then west and north to the
County line, and the far western boundary borders the city of Naples
180 water service area. He stated that by 1990, it is his projection
that on an average daily basis during the peak season, there will be
approximately 14-1/2 million gallons a day needed. He~stated that
there will be 18.6 million gallons a day needed by 1995 and 23 million
gallons a day by the year 2000 and 27 million gallons a day by the
year 2005, adding that there is a tremendous growth that is antici-
pated in this area, particularly during peak season. He stated that
during the off-season the County does not have a problem providing
service. He stated that based on the evaluation of the existing water
supply, treatment, distribution and storage system, there were a
number of recomm~n~ations including recommendations for the City. He
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the County's regional water treatment plant to a capacity of 10
million gallons a day; another recommendation was to construct the
North County water transmission main which extends north and then to
the west and will tie into the Carica ~~ad water storage tank that the
City currently owns, which is a 5 milli~ gallon storage tank; another
recommendation is the extension of ~ line south to the south service
area to improve service in East and South Naples, which is proposed
parallel to an p.xisting line that is a 20 inch main. He stated that
hi. recommendation in sizing these facilities is to be sure that
enough water will be going into these tanks in order to provide ser-
vice for the next fiv~ to six years. He stated that he is also recom-
mending that the County build another plant in the north part of the
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County. He stated that when the regional water plant comes on line,
there will be excess capacity and they have recommended that the
County provide service to the North Naples area in order to me~t their
commitments by January, 1990, regarding the bulk service form the
City. He stated that the main extending up 951 will be a 36 inch
transmission main and as it turns to the west to Vanderbilt Beach Road
Extension, it becomes a 30 inch main and will provide service to the
tank and provisions to by-pass the tank if necessary during different
times of the year and different times of the day. He noted that this
llnA Was sized so that ultimately the Coun~y's North Naples plant
would be able to provide water back to the south area and vice versa.'
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He noted that another recommendation is that the County initiate
efforts to develop what has been termed as the Coral Reef Aquifer,
adding that this is th~ right time to do it and the five year plan is
to get construction underway on· the No: ~h County's plant. He stated
that the development of the Coral Reef i.~uifer should also be pursued
as far as finding out wÞere the wellfield should be put and how the
County should proceed in the next year or so.
In answer to Commissioner H~sse, Mr. Crandall stated that the 6
million gallon storage tank should be in operation next week, adding
that the plant will be on line around March, 1988.
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the demand on the County system for water would be 14.5 mgd, adding
that this means that there will be a shortfall of 4 million gallons
per day in 1990 and questioned how the County will be able to get off
the use of the City wateri to which Mr. Taylor stated that there was
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an evaluation of storage/for the system and the treatment plant has
the capability of providing more than the 10 million gallons a day,
adding that a8 much as 14 million gallons a day could be pushed
through the regional treatment plant if necessary. He stated that
this is wh¡ it is recommended that the North Naples wellfield be ini-
tiated so that the system in the North area can be taken off line for
the South County area and then provide that service back to the south
area. He stated that the Glades system will also remain operational
until the other plant is back on line.
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Mr. Crandall stated that when they studied the Golden Gate
wellfield, it was not indicated that 6 million gallons is all that
would ever be needed, adding that he wanted to find out the ability of
the wellfields for future expansion be, "se ultimately the regional
plant is a 16 million gallon plant as originally planned. He stated
that the way the plant is being designed, it will be easier and less
expensive when it has to be expanded again. He stated that the
reports that have been received from Missimer & Associates indicate
that there is an abundance of water available in the North Golden Gate
wellfield area. He noted that 'this requires permits and SFWMD has set
a cap of 30 million gallons per day from this source and the reason
that they set this ~ap is because there was not sufficient data to
indicate what the~results would be beyond that 30 million gallon per
day draw. He stated that once they have received sufficient data to
their satisfaction, then they will probably allow additional water to
be drawn from that source.
Commissioner Saunders questioned the cost of the main for the
regional plant, to which Utilities Administrator Crandall stated
that this was budgeted at $5.5 million along with the money that is
going ,to be required to build the tank for the City of Naples, which
is estimated at $8.5 million.
Councilman Crawford stated that Missimer & Associates' study shows
the projected population in 1990 for the sèrvice area as 94,000 and
~he demands are 14.2 million gallons per.day, adding that this is a
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lot less per cepite then the City is currently using, end questioned
how this Is justified?
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Neples per capita use is much higher than the County's and within
those veers of growth, the reuse of water is being encouraged. He
stated that he expects to lessen the ¡mount of water that is going to
be used for irrigation purposes from PI able. He stated that at the
present time, the larger PUD's and DRI's have included in their stipu-
lations that the reuse of weter will be for irrigation purposes.
Councilman Crawford stated that the City is currently permitted at
21 millions per day and they will be going up to 24 and the County
will be going up to 12 which amounts to 36 which is also over the 30
million gallons, add~ng that the SWFMD is talking about a total of 50
million gallons. He stated that by the year 2000, unless another
source is found, the Golden Gate aquifer would be at its upper limits.
Mr. Taylor stated that the 30 million gallons is the amount that
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County's wellfields, not inclusive of the City's wellfield. He stated
that there is a lot more water than what was anticipated and there is
actually en area that has an oyster bed that is similar to what is
in the Coral Reef Area. He stated that there is a high transvisity
and a lot of water.
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Mayor Putzell questioned if it is fair to say that on January 1,
1990, the County's demand of water from the City will terminate? Mr.
Crandall stated that if e~erything goes in the same mode that it has
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going, it will be before the middle of 1988.
Mr. Crandall statea that with regards to this same matter, he
needs to know when the Carica Road tar.' will be available, to which
~I City Manager Jones stated that currently the City is negotiating for
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the purchase of a piece of property to place a replacement tank on and
hopefully, the sCheduling will coincid~ with the County's. He stated
that the City has not got to the point of design, but he will be using
a mid 1988 date as the target date.
Mr. Jim Chaffey, Utiliti~s ~irector for the City of Naples, stated
that the City is in the negotiation stage with an engineering firm for
the design of sever~l storage tanks, including the replacement of the
Carica Road tank. He stated that, he has agreed with the County and
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this will be the first tank that the contracto~ starts construction on
to allow for it to come on line as soon as possible.
Mr. Crandall stated that he has been working closely with the
Utilities Director of the City and he would ask that the Council and
the Commission work together also.
Councilman Richardson questioned what the projected timing is for
a water plant in the north end, to which Mr. Crandall stated that the
target date is 1990, but there is a lot to be done.
Councilman Graver questioned what happens if the City and the
County should reach the maximum amount that can be obtained from the
Golden Gate aquifer? Mr. Crandall stated that hopefully, SFWMD could
be convinced that the usage is not extreme and that the large demands
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on that source could be afforded.
He stated that there is a good
supply of water in the area, it is jUt~ getting the pipeline to it
which is about two or three miles.
Councilman Crawford questio~ed if the population projections came
from all approved permitting in the County, to which Mr. Taylor stated
that the population projections were developed using data from the
County Planning Department and the University of Florida which is in
line with the historical trend, adding that the University of Florida
has three different ranges of population projections; a low, medium
and high range, and he used the high range because over the past 7 or
8 years, the medium range has been relatively low.
Mr. Crandall referred to an overhead map indicating a section of
line that currently has no easements available. He stated th~t there
is a Florida Power & Light easement and a City of Naples easement
which was for the construction of a water main and a portion of that
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easement is not utilized for the water main. He stated that the main
meanders somewhat and some is in the Florida Power & Light easement
and some 18 in the City easement, adding that the County would like
easement rights so that the County can install their water main in the
portion that the City is not currently using. He stated that he would
like the support of the City, adding that this could be left to staff
with regards to the necessary paperwork for the dedication of easement
rights.
Councilman Richardson questioned for what reason does the City
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wae a 16 inch water line that went down a 15 foot easement from
Airport Road to the existing north tank and supposedly the line was in
the center line of that 15 foot easeme.
He stated that according to
Mr. Crandall, it may be out of the original 15 foot easement at some
points in its location. He stated that the City's utility position is
that regardless of whether that line is in or out of the easement,
when the County takes over the use of that tank, the City would recom-
mend the turnover of that entire utility easement for County purposes.
He stated that he has no objection~ to this request.
Commissioner Hasse questioned who pays for the new northern tank?
Mr. Crandall stated that the way he reads the contract with the City
ie that upon the'~ounty assuming responsibility, the service to the
area north of Pine Ridge, the City shall quitclaim those facilities to
the County and the County shall pay the remaining bond indebtedness on
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Buch facilities in accordance with the City's bond ordinance, but the
City reserves the right on the 12 inch line on U.S. 41. He stated
that he thinks that this has been since revised with regards to the 12
inch line. He noted that the contract also reads that the County will
then reimburse the City for the City's construction and land acquisi-
tion cost for replacing said pump and facilities and storage tank as 8
result of the City relinquishing their presently owned facilities. He
stated that this means that the City will óuy land and build 8 tank
and the County will reimburse t~e City for the cost. He stated that
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he would like for all this to happen harmoniously so that when the
County i. ready to tie into the Carica Road tank, they can do so.
j. Mr. Crandall stated that he..appreciates the opportunity he has had
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!\ Commissioner Hasse thankeð the Cou' ,il for their time and coopera-
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tion and further indicated that recently there was a big discussion
regarding traffic and roads and stated that possibly the Mayor could
make a few statements on this subject.
Mayor Putzell stated that there should be a joint workshop sche-
duled after Staff has had an opportunity to study the matter regarding
another bridge over the Gordon River. He stated that it is obvious
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acquire necessary rights-of-way for another bridge over the Gordon
River are going to become 'more difficult if not impossible. He stated
that as governmental bodies, they have obligations to ~~ concerned
with the future traffic problems of the area. He stated that it has
been indicated that when Radio Road is four-laned, it is expected that
there will be 80,000 vehicles a day on it. He reported that last
March, there were 50,000 a day on U.S. 41 East, adding that this
situation should be taken into serious consideration and should be of
high priority. He stated that he understands that in 1973 a study was
done on this and at that time, 8 bridge could be built at a cost of
$7.3 million, adding that it is now 1987 and there are skyrocketing
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Councilman Bledsoe stated that there is more than just the bridge
to consider as it will drop off to Airport Road, where it least
:, belongs, adding that thlS is something that needs to be thought out
further and possibly go to C.R. 951.
Commissioner Hasse stated that this is something that needs to be
looked at further.
Assistant County Manager Dorrill stated that there has been some
discussion on the matter and there was a study that indicated that the
bridge would tie in and connect Goodlette Road, U.S. 41 and Airport
Road and also related issues concerning other roads. He stated that
" he would supply the City Council with a copy of that study.
Council Bledsoe stated that with regards to another item that
needs cooperation, sometime in th~ future a water authority should be
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There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned by
Order of the Chair - Time: 2:10 P.M.
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