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BCC Minutes 08/21/1987 B .. .. - Naples, Florida, August 21/.1987 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in and tor the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as have been created according to law and having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 A.M. in BUDGET WORKSHOP SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Center, East Naples, Florida, with the followirt9 members present: !i , " : CHAIRMAN: Max A. Hasse, Jr. VICE-CHAIRMAN: Arnold Lee Glass John A. Pistor Burt L. Saunders Anne Goodnight ALSO PRESENT: Beverly Kueter and Maureen Kenyon (12:15 P.M.), Deputy Clerks; Neil Dorrill, County Manager Lori Zalka, Budget Director Stan Litsinger and Jennifer Pike, Budget Analysts. .j, .." .. ( ,t, \ , , . " :., '. ( '. } .~: ~" I ~\ ~ ¡ 1 "..:. ~, >., 1 . I' , . ' ¡.;. . }....' . '. .,f· 1 ~-. ¡. r,:. "i .\ Page 1 aDDK 106FA'.r543 -,....",._~-- .......... "-~"'-'''-"""''''''''-''''''-'' &DDK 10R FA'·r 544 AUGUST 21, 1987 TAX COLLBCTOR Budget Analyst Pike stated that this budget appears in the updated budget book on Pagp. B-l8. She stated the budget reflects a 14.5' increase due to the establishment of the Green Tree Sate1ite Office. She stated the forecast section shows the cost to establish this office equipment and $800 for miscellaneous expenses. She noted that on page B-19, there is a breakdown of 8 months operating expense for the new office. She said there are four new positions, rent, main- tenance and utilities. In response to Chairman Hasse, Tax Collector Carlton stated that the $34,600 is for interior construction. Responding to Commissioner Saunders, Ms. Zalka stated that Mr. Carlton's budget request and Staff's recommendations are the same but the format is different. Ms. Pike advised there is one expanded budget request for a new position in the EDP Department. It vas the general consen.us that the Tax COllector's Budget remain as submitted. , 8UPBRVZSOR OJ' EL!:CTIONS Budget Analyst Pike stated that the Supervisor of Election's budget appears in the regular budget book on Page B-19. She stated there is a 23.3% increase because of expanded election requirements which are broken down on page B-20. She said these expanded requests Page 2 - .. - AUGUST 21, 1987 arel $27,200 for the Presidential Preference Primary; $103,400 for operational cost for one election day; $67,000 for a signature digiti- zation system; $ll,900 for a sample ballot mailing and $7,500 for the reclassification of one position. Ms. Pike stated the Staff recommends that the sample ballot be published in the newspaper only once for a savings of $4,000. In answer to Commissioner Saunders, Supervisor of Elections Morgan stated the legal requirement for publishing the sample ballot is once. She stated that her office has fielded a number of requests to do a general mailing of sample ballots. She stated that as an alternative to this second mailing, she suggested publishing the ballot twice. She also stated that there is no legal requirement to mail the sample ballots. Commissioner Saunders stated that he is inclined to publish only once, as required, and save the $4,000. Chairman Hasse stated his concern about the published ballot print being too small and people having trouble reading them. Mrs. Morgan said that the print can be bigger but it will cost more. She estimated that the cost could go up as much as 50% to 60% depending upon the length of the ballot. She gave an example of the Sept~mber Primary Ballot for 1988 which will have a potential for 180 ballot styles and could conceivably take two or three full pages in the newspaper. Responding to Commissioner Goodnight, Mrs. Morgan stated that they 106 W·f 545 Page 3 ~DDK ~ ~ 1;" I 1 ~ t a: 1'-<. . ,~ y \. -"--_., lOOt( 106 r:l':t 546 . . . " AUGUST 21, 1987 presently mail only to areas where there is a concentration of language minorities. Answering Chairman Hasse, Mrs. Morgan stated that it is a federal requirement that ballots be mailed to language minorities or where there is not a large circulation of the newspaper. In response to Commissioner Pistor, Mrs. Morgan stated that she cannot print the ballot in English only because of Federal Law. She stated that Collier County has been complying with this law since November l, 1972. She also noted that if the English Only Proposition is voted in, it will not change the printing requirements of the ballots. She stated that unless the Voting Rights Act is amended on the federal level, ballots will continue to be printed in two languages. It was the general con.ensus that the ~allots be published only once, a county-wide mailing should not be done, and the published ballot should be printed in larger type. Answering Commissloner Pistor, Mrs. Morgan stated that the special ballot in October for the Sales Tax Issue is not in the budget, however, the Board stated they would amend the budget to take care of this item. She said she has given Assistant to the County Manager Olliff a breakdown of the cost of $120,000 with approximately $30,000 in the 1986/87 budget and $90,000 into the 1987/88 budget. Mrs. Morgan stated the changes occurring in data base and current technology allows election officials to capture the signature of the voters on a magnetic medium. She said that when the budget was pre- .page 4 ..tl ;. - '~l . t .......:,.-.;\ . . , .. . ~ .... " _ ~,' ," ,l- 1'\. . .. . ". .. .;. ~ \ ';, '..... :.~~, 'V ~', .,,1"~4\~, ", ~.- .~. ,,"/,{ l'· .- ,h 7"" I~·····: </. , , . '-', ''';(, ti·i' ;f,;~ ~';J':' i\:' --'~-"'-' r.o j~- AUGUST 21, 1987. pared, she did not have the data available on the savings for her office. She advised that signatures must be compared: every time someone requests a duplicate card; every time they request an absentee ballot; when the absentee ballots are returned; and every time there is a petition to attain ballot position (already 3,300 signatures have been compared for the English Only petition and there are 3,500 more in her office). She noted that offices using this system report they can handle two to three times the number of petitions per hour as they can manually. She also noted that initiative petitions must be in her office by noon on Mo~day ~nd certifications must be to the State the next day at noon. Mrs. Morgan noted that petitions are expected from the medical community, an initiative petition from Save the Fish Environme~tal Group, petitions from Marco Island, English Only petition, and people who qualify for office have the right to qualify by petition. She advised that the cost of the equipment would not be recovered within one or two years, but it would be recovered in probably five to six years. She noted it will save man hours and additional personnel. Mrs. Morgan explained the cumbersome manual system being used at the present time. She stated that one of the firms she has spoken with have promised that the system would be operational by June 30, 1988 which would allow enough time for next years election. In answer to Chairman Hasse, Mrs. Morgan stated the on-going costs for this system is the annual maintenance fees on the equipment. She BOOK 106 PAr,! 547 Page 5 . " f ~} ~< ' " ....._~."~._~ &OO( 106!T.! 548 AUGUST 21, 1987 stated she plans to have a system that will run on the existing data processing equipment. She stated there will be some additional hard- ware acquired which probably won't be more than $6,000 or $7,000 per year. Responding to Commissioner Pistor, Mrs. Morgan stated that a video camera is included in the cost and in the initial capture of data, multiple equipment will be provided so more than one person can do the '-"ork. In response to Commissioner Glass, Mrs. Morgan explained that the equipment will not mðke the signature comparison, but rather provide access to the signðture through the computer terminal. She said the comparison will still be made by Staff. Ms. Zalka stated that the BUdget Office is merely proposing that it might be better to wait a year for this equipment rather than trying to bring it on line during a busy election year. She stated that the cost may also go down by waiting a year. Commissioner Pistor stated that originally Mrs. Morgan thought there was a possibility that it could not be put on line this year, however, since that time she has learned that the company will supply the manpower for the initial capture of data and it is more feasible. It vas the general conseneus that the supervisor of Blections Budget be increased by $90,000 tor the special election, $2,000 tor the larqer print of the one-time published ballot; $67,000 for the signature digitization system, and no county-wide mailing ot sample f .y; .. Pa~e ~ - .~' .-:~~ . ,.. :I~-~t '" . '" , ,,,-~.-:..,........,..n .:'/~ '" J. ,:>i~'. ,', .'.' " ,; . . . . , AUGUST 21, 1987 should )). done. '~rJ": *** RECESS AT ':50 A.M. ~:~:;::). ¡¡'~ ~~,D.BT SBRVICB AND CAPITAL . .~;Þ-)l'-, ,......¡.. . '.¡ ;'.' '-'. . De))t servioe - Page D-8 ,. RECONVENED AT 10100 A.M. *** - Budget Analyst Litsinger stated debt service is prior obligations with an overall increase of approximately 3.5'. He noted there are no significant decision issues and a summary appears on Page D-9. capital - Mr. Litsinger stated that budget is reflective of the items in the current Capital Improvement Element prepared by the Growth Management Group and is also fundable with current revenues with no anticipated revenues under consideration. J'Und 301 - J'acilitie. Manaqement - Page D-9 - Mr. Litsinger stated the primary revenue sources are County-wide ad valorem taxes, state grants, and carry forward. He said it includes facilities impro- vements associated with the Capital Improvement Element of the Growth Management Plan and certain other capital projects. He said next year Fund 301 will include the transfer of previous Funds 305, 315 and 316 for consolidation purposes and easier accounting. Mr. Litsinger stated the increase in Facilities Management is 21.8' increase over the previous year. He stated these costs are bro- ken down into categories of: Carry Forward CIE Projects, New CIE Projects, Carry Forward Projects not related to the CIE Projects, New Non-CIE Projects. He then listed each project contained in the above categories giving the FY 1988 cost, the year of completion, and the . ,. f-'; i I- '. aODK 10R FA'·r 549 ./ '¡ OJ J.". " Page 7 ¡ If) . ~ , ~ lOR r)/.I 550 AUGUST 21, 1987 total cost at completion. He noted a 5 year chart of these expenses appears on Page D-26. Mr. Litsinger stated that the "New Non-CIE Projects will be taken one at a time: Office Automation 8ysteml Mr. Litsinger stated that the office automation system is for the County Manager and Division Offices computer hardware and software. He noted there is a slight change to this item for a two year commitment which changes the figure from $140,000 on a three year commitment to $210,000 per year for a two year commitment. He stated this equipment is on a lease/purchase basis and at the end of the two year lease period the equipment will be purchased for $1.00. Commissioner Pistor stated that he is not convinced that this equipment is needed. Mr. Litsinger stated that this is a step toward centralizing the data processing equipment so the clerical staff is not working with a dozen different systems. County Manager Dorrill stated that this project has been underway for some time and is the digital system to centralize with the Clerk's Office. He stated that this will enable the Board employees to access the budget information from the Clerk's data base, property record information, property management, etc., all of which are on the Clerk's system. Answering Chairman Hasse, Mr. Dorrill stated that this system will be part of a micro-vax system which is digital hard- ,. ware and it will have the ability to relate and correspond with Mr. \ 'j ~:.> , "',,' \ . > ~ M _ d .....v. PftI1 'J~ïj ~ l\U:;" . i I. '. pag~,,~' ., 'f":f''',t. ~'1 '1i)~~ - - ----""-,~',.,_.,"",.,"_..--'-,._----,.-..."'--"""""""'-"'......._,.._.,.,".'''''''''',...._,._.''''''"''............",'-"---,''~,..,',"., _.~ ...,":J .~~ .,,:¡t~.. .' :'111.1 -, '~;I '. (:~).' . ·~.~,:'i ,"I"' '.. ·~.i,~ ~(,' ~~;,: ~~' I'~~':' i :. .'......,.--. " . . " ,t- ~,' 'I'd ·f? < ""'f' ~f - - - AUGUST 21, 1987 Giles' Vax System thDt is on the 5th floor, as well as tieing the Commission, the Manager's Office and the Attorney's Office and the Division Administrator's Offices onto a central document preparation system. He stated that this system has been proposed because the Clerk's system has the information which needs to be accessed. Mr. Litsinger stated this system is very similar to the system which was brought on line in the Administrative Services Division this year. He stated the system has been very successful and the current budget book was prepared on that system and is a great time save~. In answer to Commissioner Saunders, Ms. Zalka stated that all of these projects are funded under the current service level which is the recommended budget and relates to no tax increase. Driver's License Office I Chairman Hasse questioned the $440,000 expense for the Tax Collector's Office for a Driver's License Bureau. Ms. Zalka stated that this is money proposed to be spent by the County, at the request of the Tax Collector, for the State. Mr. Dorrill stated that a decision needs to be made on this item. He reminded the Board that they previously took action authorizing land appraisals for site related selections in the north County area. He stated his concern that the items under the County Manager jurisdic- tion have received his scrutiny, however, items related to other Constitutional Officers were passed through directly. He stated the Board needs to decide if they are going to build a State Office Building, because that is what this money is for. He said his opinion aDOK 10R FAr;r 551 Page 9 ~+Jra j l h .. ,.1" '. ;' 106 F'S'.I 552 AUGUST 2l, 1987 is that the County should not be building and financing an office building for the State. He added that this building would house the Driver's License Bur~au. Mr. Dorrill also stated that it is his understanding that the Driver's License Bureau does not presently have the allocation to staff or operate this facility. Commissioner Glass stated their proposal is that the County build the building, they pay rent which goes toward the purchase of the building and after a time they own the building. He stated it brings no income or real benefit to the County. He said that the Tax Collector's operaticn brings the County income and if the County is going to build a satellite building in North Naples, the Tax Collector and other departments would be very appropriate there. He said a driving facility, although very convenient for the people in North Naples and lower Bonita, brings no real benefit to the County. Mr. Dorrill stated that completing the appraisal process and then designing the facility will take the balance of next year and there is no way that the $440,000 could be spent on construction next year. Commissioner Glass explained to Chairman Hasse that the building being requested is separate from the Collier County Government Building being considered in Pelican Bay. Mr. Dorrill advised that the Tax Collector's lease at Green Tree Shopping Center is for a period of 5 years and he has stated that he could move his tag office to another location after the five-year period. n! j (,~: .i . . . , ~ Ó 1,' - - - Page,lO . .; AUGUST 21, 1987 Tax Collector Carlton stated that the realization to the county the State Building would be better service. He stated there are only two driver's license operations in the County at the present time: 1) on Radio Road, and 2) in Immokalee on a 1 or 2 day a week basis. He stated that he is aware that the Division of Motor Vehicles is looking for anoth~r office in Northern Collier County or Southern Lee County because of the increase in population. He advised he was asked if he would like to move in with them and make it a "one-stop" operation for tags and driver's licenses. He stated it would be a nice service to provide and cost effective. He confirmed that his office has a 5 year lease at Green Tree, however, the new building would be made large ~nough in the beginning to hold both offices. In answer to Chairman Hasse, Mr. Carlton stated DMV is waiting for the Board of County Commissioners to make suggestions and offers. He said they are trying to get money from Tallahassee to fund this pro- ject. Chairman Hasse stated that the entire process is only in the discussion stages and the $440,000 should not be in the budget yet. Commissioner Glass explained that the State wants to own the building and it means that the Tax Collector would be paying rent back to the state. Mr. Carlton stated his understanding is that the State wants to buy their portion of that facility and pay $1 per year lease' on the property. Commissioner Pistor asked if the County builds a satellite building in Pelican Bay for County operations, would the Tax Collector want to aoo( 106 PAr,! 553 Page'U s ¡ :1 J ~ ~ I í í :, j ; _~ J. :', ·_·___,___,__'..._E'''......_......''''_~"''''__,.....·__~,,,~'''"''~_,"'~·''".-~," "J :¡; .{ . ,"," -.,." (.,'1 ...., ';j¡ ·~'1 :-"-~' ¡": < " '. , -~ ~-.. , , ;:~t; . '~',.l~ ';'¡,~:'J , aD OK 106 FJr,r 554' AUGUST 21, 1987 be in both buildings? He noted that the site in Pelican Bay will not accommodate the driver's license bureau because of the on-road testing. Mr. Carlton stated that the County building would be a full- service operation for everything including property taxes, occupa- tional licenses, hunting and fishing and boats. He said they could do the DMV portion in the State's Building. He noted that th~ DMV com- puter system does not belong to the Tax Collector, but is fUI~nished by the State. Mr. Dorrill stated that at the present time neither r~oject exists. He advised to place the $440,000 into rp.~~Lves in order to pursue a satellite in Pelican Bay at Borne future time. It vas the general consensus that the $440,000 expense Þe retitled the "North county Satellite J'acility". Preight Blevatorl Mr. Litsinger stated that the freight elevator for Building ifF" is also a new project for FY 1988. Commissioner Glass stated that this project was initiated in March and the designs have not been started. Mr. Dorrill indicated that the contract is in the Attorney's Office. County J'inancial System 80ttwares Mr. Litsinger stated that there is a new project for replacement of the County software system residing on the Clerk's computers which serves the entire County. Finance Director Yonkosky stated that the $400,000 shown in the budget is an estimate of what it will take to replace the financial system software. He stated the software is modules which deal with .. Page 12 , ';',.~ "'~., ; - - - - - .., ^UGUST 2l, 1987· payroll and personnel that will interface with County departments of budgeting and purchasing into the financial system. He said that at the present time it is very difficult and cumbersome to obtain access. He advised the current system has been in place for 5 years and during that time the system has become highly outdated. Mr. Yonkosky stated that the estimate does not contain any costs for hardware and they are considering leasing hardware to avoid large costs each year for hardware. He also advised that when the software is obtained the complete code will be included so modifications can be handled by internal Dðta Processing Staff. Answering Chairman Hasse, Mr. Yonkosky stated that this system will allow all County departments to interface the information. In response to Commissioner Pistor, Mr. Yonkosky stated that the recently installed E-Net equipment will make all the County PC's com- patible to the main system. He advised that the intention is to trade in the 1144 machine, however, since the equipment is outdated, the value drops every day. County Manager Dorrill stated that the present Staff in the Clerk's office is more receptive to working with the Manager's Staff and several years ago when the Local Government Financial System was purchased, it was done without consulting the management users. He noted that the LGFS software is actually an accounting package and is useless to the average County department and budget office. He requested that the management users continue to work with the &ODK 106 PAr,r 555 Page 13 , , I' } " .,' ~ i. t ¡ Jt' ., 106 PAr:! 556 i . AUGUST 21, 1987 accounting users to supply input of what might be purchased for $400,000. He stated that the machine is under the control of the Clerk's Office, but without input from the management users, it may not be what is needed. He also noted that none of the Clerk's present Staff was here when those decisions were made on the LGFS. Mr. Yonkosky stated that a user community has been developed con- sisting of people from purchasing, budgeting, personnel, and accounting. He said that committee will make the decision on what will be recommended to the Board of County Commissioners. Commissioner Glass summarized by stating that E-Net capability has linked everyone together for the community needed, gives an enhanced capability, and responsive real time rather than delay time done with mechanical shifting. He stated his feelings that the system will be highly profitable. It was the general consensus that this project be funded iD the F! .1988 budget. Covered Walkvaysl Mr. Litsinger stated there is $50,000 budgeted as a new project to extend the walkways for Building "C". Mr. Dorrill stated that the walkway covers are all pre-stressed concrete, poured in place panels with columns and Building "C" is the only building on the campus that does not have a covered walkway. He also noted that a structural engineer must prepare the plans because of the way the existing structure is put together. ill Power System (Carry-forward P~oj.ct)1 Deputy Chief Hunter ...:.. Page 14 " . ~ .J~A~ ,~,;. '. .: ~~ ~> L-'. {~ .'"~ r ~. ~I¡~~: '. :.\'.,..1:.,. 1>,.. «,. ,¡/¡It. . ~; - - - AUGUST 21, 1987 that this item is to provide an uninterrupted power source to the 911 System. He stated that there is a possibility that under current legislation, this particular system could be provided for from subscriber fees. Ms. Za1ka stated that this $90,000 could then be deleted. It va. the qeneral con.en.us that the $90,000 be used to cover office automation. Qu~ Ranqel Mr. Litsinger stated the approximate cost of relo- cating the gun range is $430,000. Deputy Chief Hunter stated there is a problem with the site next to the landfill. He said the cell is going to be utilized and they are currently receiving drainage and runoff from the existing cells. He stated there are two sites that look fairly attractive, one to the northeast and one to the southeast. In answer to Commissioner Pistor, Deputy Chief Hunter stated they are exploring some possible revenue generation from the gun range, since the State has amended the Statute. . ¡'Aircraft Hanqerl Deputy Chief Hunter stated the aircraft hanger is to provide inside storage for the aircraft. He stated that the life of the aircraft could be extended if it were not exposed to the elements. He said that in order to provide maintenance and repair on the aircraft, it cannot be done on the tarmac, but must be done inside a facility. Responding to Chairman Hasse, Deputy Chief Hunter stated that they currently borrow space from various facilities, like Royal, however the Sheriff's Department hired their mechanic and they will aDOK 106 W,! 557 Page 15 Pc' " 'I i .! '. ! ! ~ ,f .!t 100« 106 rar,( 558 AUGUST 21, 1987 not allow the use of their hanger anymore. Deputy Chief Hunter stated that they do not have official word from the Airport Authority as to whether they will allow construction of an additional facility. He said that until that is determined, this item could be postponed. Commissioner Glass asked if Deputy Chief Hunter would like the money placed in reserve for future determination? He answered "Yes", but noted that this is not their highest priority. He also stated that this expense will probably not be necessary in FY 1988. xt vas the general consensus that the $150,000 for the aircraft hanger'be placed in reserves. outdoor BVidonce Impoundl Deputy Chief Hunter stated that they presently have a compound to the east of Building "J". He stated that as vehicles and property are seized under the forfeiture statutes, the Sheriff's Office automatically takes on the liability of maintaining the condition of that personal property until such time as it is for- feited. He noted there are occasions when, due to some legal dif- ficulty, the personal property is not subject to forfeiture, and the property must be returned to the owner. He said if the property is in such condition that it has degenerated from when the owner had custody of the personal property, they may sue the Sheriff and be awarded damages to the extent of the degradation of the personal property. He said it is their feeling that the outdoor evidence impound would pro- vide some insulation from that liability. :;::' ,; '. } Page 16 - - - -'---.--.-. --_.~-~-------_._- ^UCUST 21, 1987 In answer to Chairman Hasse, Deputy Chief Hunter stated they ¡,have ! "~"the fence and they just need to put a roof over it to house some of the more valuable personal property. He noted it would also be used to store things like bicycles and ATC's for future sale. Jail Shower Renovationl Deputy Chief Hunter stated this item per- tains to drainage in the shower area. He stated that during design and construction of the building, the shower was constructed in such a fashion so the shower does not drain properly and water actually runs over the shower area and into the main day room area. He stated they have contacted variou9 ~onstruction firms and they quoted the $61,000 as a minimal figure to build a concrete lip and coax the drain to take the additional water. He noted that most of the inmates stand in water while showering which creates a liability eituation. He said this is their highest priority. In response to Commissioner Pistor, Deputy Chief Hunter stated that the drains are not able to keep up with the demand and the water runs over the small lip that was built originally. He said the contractors are suggesting another concrete lip plus a step up so they will have a tub for the water to drain through. Robert Burhans, Assistant to Deputy Chief Hunter, stated that this particular case involves the removal of a pan in each shower space because they are too small. He stated it also requires taking up old tile and re-tiling. He noted there is also a water mixer problem that will be corrected at the same time. aDDK 106 wr 559 -'. , Page 17 ~iJ' ; "I' . . ~ r . , ~.i '. 4 ~ ~ , )~ aDOK 106 r~r·r 560 AUGUST 21, 1987 Roof for Marco SUb-Station: Deputy Chief Hunter stated that they are currently experiencing some major leaks in the sub-station roof, and have been over the last 10 months. He noted that it is a relati- vely major expense at $15,000. Commissioner Glass stated that the North Naples and Golden Gate Sub-Stations are currently sub-standard. He asked if Deputy Chief Hunter would like to utilize some of the funds from the aircraft hanger for improvements in these two sub-stations? Deputy Chief Hunter stated that it is his understanding that there will be a County annex in Pelican Bay soon. He said hopefully the North Naples sub-station will be taken care of with that building. He stated that the Property Management Department has located two or three parcels of property along the Pine Ridge Extension in Golden Gate that were deeded to the County and he said they are willing to be pðtient and see what the County might be willing to do on that. In response to Chairman Hasse, Deputy Chief Hunter explained that the Sheriff's office is not really compatible to be housed with the Fire Department and EMS because they have overnight facilities and the Sheriff has people coming and going on three shifts/24 hours. Commissioner Glass asked again if he would like the current sub- station fixed up a little bit? Deputy Chief Hunter stated that the Golden Gate sub-station is a rather stark building and it would assist them if they had carpeting, etc. It vas the general consensus that Deputy Chief Hunter return " ,. ~ ¡ , , t Page 18 I' - - - AUGUST 21, 1981 the wr~p-up .e..ion vith an approximate co.t of improvement. to two sub-.tation.. *** RECESS AT 11115 A.M. RECONVENED AT 11z30 A.M. *** 1911 capital Improvement Trust Vund - Page D-11 - Mr. Litsinger stated this fund is for the construction of a boardwalk for Clam Pass and con.truction and repair of nine mile. of bike paths. He advised that at the end of FY 1987 this fund will be transferred to Fund 306, Parks & Recreation. Wiggin. Pass Dredging - Page D-12 - Mr. Litsinger stated this fund was established to dredge Wiggins Pass and at the end of FY 1987 the remaining funds are being transferr6d to Fund 306, Parks & Recreation. Commissioner Glass stated that the Commission previously directed that Staff have some dredging of Wiggins Pass done and they have not seen anything on this yet. He asked if giving this money to Parks & Recreation will effect that direction. Mr. Litsinger stated that activity is in the forecast expenses for the current fiscal year. County Manager Dorrill stated it is his understanding that Wiggins Pass Dredging is in the operating expenses. Ms. Zalka advised that only the monitoring expenses are in the operating account. Mr. Dorrill stated they are proposing to do the balance of that work with the boating improvement funds and a potential special assessment district. He stated Staff is in the process of preparing a prelimi- nary assessment roll to provide funding in conjunction with the boating funds. ;1:; '" !.! : '.~ ~' . aODK lOR I'~,r 561 Page 19 hr,' ,', . , _·'......~_.m_'__".,.,<"_,_,."··."..,",.__~·_~..______...·. ...- ~.-..,"-- .. _._____.._.,__"._,..',0_"'" ....,,·~.~·","c;'..__,·""~_...'~'"~~_"_,...... AUGUST 21, 1987 Commissioner Pistor rcquested information on the City's request for funds for dredging of all passes. City Councilman Richardson advised there are three special taxing districts for dredging which will be on the City ballot in February. He said one is the Moorings Bay area and some of that is County property and this is the only district that is affected. He said the City hopes the County will ask their voters of that district to participate. Mr. Dorrill stated that while the Board was on vacation, he sent a letter to the City stating that if the voters within the City limits in Moorings and Park Shore voted to create a navigational improvement district that the Commission would probably consider an interlocal agreement to include Park Shore Unit #5 as part of that district. He stated that the people within that area will receive the navigational and water quality benefits from any dredging work done on that bay. He noted that the County is not obligated to place this issue on the ballot an~ can create a taxing district through the adoption of an Ordinance. He noted that the City will take a straw poll of those people who are not in the City election and the County's decision would be based on the outcome of the election. Commissioner Pistor stated that if the City is putting the tax into effect in FY 88, the County will need to know sometime this fall. He requested Councilman Richardson to find out when the City is anti- cipating that this tax will be collected. Commissioner Glass asked if this money is going to be saved for : ·....,'Jl(Jl¡b:~.9trç'~ t-'. Page 20 ',!:II/i'!;). ::iT" rð~,)\:'..: . ... ". &DDK 106 rA'·t 562 ~" ~... \ : , , . f . ¡ +J ~ . -;;';' - - , , - AUGUST 21,: 1987 '11;"';, , . 'cSredging of Wiggins Pass or if Parks & Recreation will be able to use it for some other activity? Ms. Zalka stated that it is in the budget for Parks & Recreation and could be used toward any of their projects. Commissioner Glass stated that he feels the money should remain in the present fund for dredging. It vas the general oonsensus that pund 304 remain as is and the transfer to Parks' Reoreation be reduoed by $20,700. Justioe Center capital Improvement prograM - Page D-13 - Mr. Litsinger advised that this fund was established to account for expen- ditures of proceeds from the issuance of the Capital Improvement Revenue Bonds. He stated the remaining proceeds will be used toward the design and construction of the County's new Judicial Center and are being transferred to Facilities Management Fund 301 at the end of FY 1987. Parks' Recreation capital proieots - Page D-l4 - Mr. Litsinger stateå this fund contains an increase of 149% over the previous year. He noted the Carry Forward CIE Project for the East Naples Park in the amount of $835,400. He stated there is a change in the Carry Forward Non-CIE Projects and the Clam Pass Park/Kitchen will be just the Clam Pass Park Facilities and reduced from $300,700.00 to $225,700.00 and the balance of that money is proposed to be used for the expansion of the restrooms at Tigertail and a mobile concession stand. In answer to Commissioner Glass, County Manager Dorrill stated that the County will not operate the concession, but will build the aDO'; 106 PA'Jl 563 Page 21 ',': '.' \ ~ ~'" ..n i. , , ~..._--- 'I ..._..__......,....""..~......"__..,......___"._.~..·....'"··.,,w._,,.,.·., Page 22 aoo( 106PAr.r 564 AUGUST 21, 1987 facility adjacent to the existing bathhouse facility and it would be built to match the bathhouse. He noted a concessionaire will operate out of the County-provided mobile building. He stated his feeling that the County has an obligation to have a building that can be moved in the event of a hurricane or flood. Responding to Chairman Hasse, Public Services Administrator O'Donnell stated the County has received an enhanced modification to . the existing proposal submitted by AUO. He stated Staff is presently in negotiations with AUO for an agreement for them to operate. He stated they have offered to comþlete, at their expense, the kitchen , facility and the County will be completely out of the concession busi- ness at Clam Pass. In response to Chairman Hasse, Mr. Dorrill stated Staff is in the process of completing the design for a water and sewer line that will run along the boardwalk, as opposed to the original concept to remove the dune and run the pipes down the beach. He stated there have been some preliminary meetings with DER to resolve the water and sewer lines. Commissioner Saunders stated that the Commission has not made any decision as to whether AUO will be the appropriate entity to operate \ Clam Pass Park because of other operational problems at the hotel. He stated that the Board asked if AUO would be willing to have a contract which is totally terminable at the end of one year, however, they have not received a response. He stated his concern that they are getting too locked in with sizeable investments. Mr. O'Donnell stated the I.¡ ..(. :?-.'_i i . ----- - - P" ._.."_...·__·'m_.."...____""'''''_"'__...._'"_..,.,.,,_·_·_·..·,,..,~_''''·"...._._.û"~;."..~_,_.._>o,_"'".·."'"',_·.,__·._·_... AUGUST 21, 1987 hotel is willing to accept verbiage that will give the County authority to cancel the contract at will and they will expect some type of reim- ,bursement for the kitchen facility. He stated that Staff has concep- tually agreed to this, but it is being reviewed by the County Attorney. In answer to Commissioner Glass, Mr. O'Donnell stated that the $225,000 for Clam Pass Park is the expense of the utilities. He stated they are a fixed capital expense which are presently being designed. ,',' , Mr. Litsinger stated there is also $75,000 in this fund for Vanderbilt Beach Parking which is being carried forward from this year. Mr. O'Donnell stated that this cost is for additional bathrooms at the parking facility. Mr~ Litsinger stated on Page D-l5, the New CIE Projects for Parks & Recreation are $282,000 for Bike Paths; $96,000 for Gymnasium ~sign; and $720,000 for four Boat Ramps. He stated that the Budget Office recommendation is to subtract $520,000 from Boat Ramps and only fund the boat ramp at Bluebill Avenue until site decisions and acquisitions are done. He noted the reasoning behind this recommen- dation is that the site decisions and acquisitions will take longer than one year. In answer to Commissioner Glass, Mr. O'Donnell stated that the new gymnasium will be located in the East Naples Community Park. He stated this is part of the Master Plan for this park. Mr. Dorrill noted that it is also part of the Growth Management CIE Plan. ,'" L \,' ., I· -! ~ ~,,' " 1 (I .. '; , p~ge':23 , \ aDOK lOB FAl,l 565 {. , ',I \ :1, ", ..,f¡: , , , --"""""'--_.-.--.....~'"....".,-"",...._'''''.......~-''''''.._..~.-- lOOK 106 m! 566 AUGUST 21, 1987 Discussion resulted on the scheduling conflicts for the School Board Gymnasiums and Mr. Dorrill noted that the County is now required to pay for the use of those gyms. Mr. Dorrill stated that this is the first item that the Board is seeing that is part of the work that has been done on the Growth Management Plan that might be questioned. He stated they will have the same problem with the recommendation for swimming pools. He stated that he does not feel the County has the ability to acquire, design and construct four boat ramps in one year. Commissioner Goodnight advised that after the bond issue was passed by the voters, a survey was conducted and public hearings were held in each community to devise a list of priorities for each com- munity. She noted that each of the communities has different priori- ties, such as East N.Jples wants the gym, Golden Gate wants the olympic size swimming pool, Immokalee wants a community size pool, Marco compromised for an open air gym so they could have a community center with meeting rooms, etc. She stated that the public input was directly responsible for the Growth Management Committee's recommen- dations. Ms. Zalka advised that the CIE Plan includes $720,000 per year for the boat ramps and the budget now is in conformance with that Plan. She said the recommendation for reducing the $520,000 includes the recommendation that it be placed in a reserve to be spent on boat ramps in the future to remain in conformance. ç,' ...' ¡;~'.. ,', Page '24" ' I: ¡: .\ - - .,.,"-~,-- """"_""="~_""'^'''''''''~'"''__"''_'"''''.''.O'~'~~''~''"~''' -. "^.._,_...._.~_..__.~__~_ AUGUST 2l, 1987 Mr. Dorrill stated they have received requests from two com- munities for consideration of improvements to their existing community parks, such as a Bocchi Ball Court for North Naples and a Tot Lot and Shuffleboard Courts for Golden Gate. He stated the County Manager's recommended budget does not include those items because one community should not be allowed to get ahead of another community, which would cause animosity. He stated his advise is to take the $602,000, reserved for Future Capital Outlay of the Parks Capital Projects, and split it five ways and create separate community park reserves. He said that each community could then decide how to use their reserves. He noted that this money amounts to approximately $140,000 per year for each park. In answer to Ms. Zalka, Mr. Dorrill stated the Board will have to recognize that boat ramp money would have to be reappropriated next year when Staff is better prepared to build them. Mr. O'Donnell advised that the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board has recently recommended that a baseball field be constructed in the North Naples Community Park in FY 1988. He stated this is included within the five-year CIE, however, they have requested that this item be moved up. He noted that the baseball field will cost $225,000. Commissioner Goodnight noted that the Committee has designated certain parks to be certain things, such as Golden Gate Park will be the'ténnis center, North Naples Park will be the baseball/softball c~nt~~)~East Naples Park will be the gymnasium, etc. . ~ :.. . . ;; ; &DDK 1061':": 56? Page 25 """""_'___~_I'<IÞIi 'O~t( 106 r1',¡ 56R " ' AUGUST 21, 1987 It vas the general consensus that $&02,000 be split into six $100,000 reserve funds1 one tor each community park and one qeneral reserve tor Fund 306. *.. ~t this time Deputy Clerk Kenyon replaced Deputy Clerk Kueter (12 115 p. m. ) . County Manager Dorrill stated that with regards to Lely Barefoot Beach in Fund 306, money was put in there in the event the Commission elected to purchase outright Lely Barefoot Beach and the amount of money that is seen on Page D-15 is the proceeds from a variable rate short term bond issue that the Board of County Commissioners would have to consider in the event that this is what the Board would like to do. He noted that it appears that the State is going to come through with the $2.1 million to match the County's money and in the event that this happens, then this budget would become null and void. He noted that if the County does not have the bond proceeds, the park is not bought and the $50,000 is lost. He noted that it had to be set up in the event that the Commission ultimately decided that they wanted to purchase it outright as a County facility. Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that the Lely Barefoot Beach budget will be left as it stands. He noted that the only other issue is the debt service on the Le1y Barefoot Beach bonds should that come to pass, which would be $290,000 for the first year and Borne miscellaneous bonding expenses of $15,000 which is all contingent on ¡ . '.- .~. ~,.. j .~,' ~.: ;~, Page 26 , " ;;\1;,: .:J~.,'.~ :,' ~I . ,;¿,,\...J . ..\'¿"h~! " /...{Âj. .~>::. .~~~~ <~ "._ ":\i~ ",'t ,. '_10 ...., . ' ';,1 ," . - .,.1.'1....'.;. , " ,.. ·-·:'r .'.;. . ~ ,,~' ;.:" , ~ . '. ...(~, .': ~__.._"~~.,..._,".,_....."..", ,_... "M"_""" .'~"d.,.,~,.",",._··_,,~.·.~.·,·''''·__~__·''_ '.' 1 ¡~: :, "l', h{ I'.'·'~~\',·".,'·· "';. , .;;, ~ - """, \,~,,', \! '.,¡;', , ; .4): "1¡f' 'DO': lUR IAGl 5G9 AUGUST 21, 1987 decisions made by the State and the Board. Budget Director Zalka stated that if a bond issue is done, a debt service fund will be established for those expenses and they will be removed from the Capital Fund. Librarie- Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that Page D-16 is the Library Department Capital Budget which shows a 62.6% increase. He noted that there are two CIE projects the construction of the East Naples Library branch for $460,000 and the purchase of a book collection for $213,000. He noted that the revenue for the construction of the library is tied to the potential Lely Barefoot Beach bond of $673,000 in bond proceeds. Budget Director Zalka stated that if the bond for the Lely Barefoot Beach is done, then the Library projects would be included in that and funded accordingly, adding that if the Lely Barefoot Beach bond issue is not done, then it would not be worth it to do ð bond issue for only $673,000. She stated that then the Library department budget would need funding and some of the future reserve needs to be put into this account in case the Lely Barefoot Beach Bond issue is not done. County Manager Dorrill stated that there is $290,000 budgeted back in Fund 306 and if the bond issue is not done, this money could be used. Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that the $290,000 might be needed þ - ( ;' \ ¡ -~. Page 27 . . ! : .', '-~"'--'- _"___~'_~~_"M"'-"""__"_""'__"""''''''_'_'''~'"'__ 106 rAr.{ 570 AUGUST 21, 1987 for the closeout of the beach. County Manager Dorrill questioned what the source of funding would be for the East Naples branch library in the event that the State par- ticipates in the purchase of Lely Barefoot Beach, to which Mr. Liteinger indicated that it would come from the Capital Revenue Reserve Fund 196. Budget Director Zalka stated that in other words, the reserve for future capital outlay would have to be used. Ratural Resources Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that the Natural Resources Capital Fund is a closeout fund which shows no activity for next year. Transportation Department Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that Page 0-18 refers to the Transportation Department Capital Roads Project fund which is primåri1y funded by gas taxes. He ~tated that for the coming budget year, there is a l3.6% decrease in revenues and expenses, adding that there are savings in the current year due to lower operating expenses for leg~l fees and engineering. He noted that there is an increase in operating expenses for transfers due to the transfer of the Real Property Manage- ment for land acquisition for the five year secondary road project, adding that in other words, $232,000 is being transferred to Real Pro- .perty Management. He indicated that there is a $35,000 increase in personal services due to several promotions and reclassifications during the current fiscal year. He indicated that there is a decrease ;¡.: ';·;c ¡ Page 28 : :1.. - - - AUGUST 2l, 1987 of $675,000 in operating and capital appropriations budgeted to reflect actual expenditure experiences versus the budget. He noted that there is $70,000 for operating expenses in expanded services for land ease- ment acquisition to construct projects in the five year road plan. He stated that under CIE projects the 1987-88 road construction project list Ðnd the capital element on Page D-23 are funded as follows: Fund 313 gas taxes, $7,515,000 Impact Funds 711 and 718, $3,060,000 and Fund 137 North Naples Roadway Assessment District, $1,463,000 for the total.CIE road plan of $12,038,000. In answer to Commissioner Pistor, Public Works Administrator Ar,chibald stated that the Carry Forward is in excess of $1. 3 million. Commissioner Goodnight questioned what is going to be done on the road that is on the north side of Lake Trafford and goes into State Road 29 this year, to which Public Works Administrator Archibald stated that in Fiscal Year 1987-88 the location will be tied down as there are two options and when that is completed, the rights-of-way will be a,cquired. , .." .... Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that there is a new non CIE project which has been added and is $lOO,OOO for median landscaping for a major east-west arterial that is recommended by R!UDAT. He noted that this is,. o~, Page D-19. Commissioner Glass questioned what the major arterial is, to which Public Works Administrator Archibald stated that the study group has indicated that funds should be set aside for Pine Ridge Road or Golden ,\' " ,'.' '.....: aDD( iOÔw[571 Page 29 I .. \ )~( ~ .:.. f f ~ : 1-' . -".,,"....^-_..,.~.",.,_.. "''''''__''~_'''''M'''·<··'·'··''"·.·."'''''''_·_____·····'''''·_«_.__ aOOK lOR rA',t 572 AUGUST 21, 1987 Gate Parkway and then it has to be decided whether they will be spent on curbing and waterlines or for landscaping. Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that all road construction projects that are covered here are in the Capital Improvement Element. Courthouse Bxpansion CIP Budg~t Analyst Litsinger stated that Page D-20 is the Courthouse Expansion CIP Fund 315 and is being closed outinto Fund 30l as there is no activity next year. He noted that Fund 316 falls into the same category which is also being closed out into Fund 301 which is the old Judicial Center Courtrooms Capital Fund. Water Management CIP Budget Analyst Litsinger referred to Page D-22 which is the Water Management Capital Plan, noting that the major carry forward CIE pro- ject is u.s. 41 outfall swales for $200,000 new CIE projects is District 6 C-4 canal for $5l,300 land acquisition for future canal work for $1 million Naples Park drainage for $550,000; $300,000 for the wnter management master plan and reserves, contingencies and reve- nue reserves for the total of this fund of $2,234,000. Capital aevenue Fund ¡ Budget Analyst Litsinger referred to Page C-57 which is a new fund . ,! established this year to account for ad valorem taxes collected to sup- port capital projects and to be disbursed to the various capital funds that have been reviewed. He noted that under current service there is a proposed budget of $5,433,000 which covers the necessary ad valorem 9'",": ",; " ¡. ~'~.(.; ,' O( 2¡?')¿" , .,page 30 . ¡.. 1..' t.J' ~"1. ~ ", r. '(:'-'1 ',' ..'¡ '3 .:: - - .. '_,,_,~_,,"..m ., AUGUST 21, 1987 taxes that was needed for planned projects for next year. He indi- cated that the expanded service request is for $5,226,000 which is to create a reserve to lighten the impact of ad valorem taxes over the next four years of the CIE plan. He indicated that the transfers from the capital funds includes $787,000 to Parks & Recreation $3,300,000 to Facilities Management; and $878,300 to Water Management. He stated that it is the Budget Office recommendation and the County Manager's recommendation that only the current year of service projects be funded with the local option sales tax rather than the ad valorem taxes. He noted that the Budget Office is not recommending the funding of the expanded service reserve. Commissioner Pistor indicated that this is taking a big gamble as the capital improvement elements that the committee prepared is very conservative and there are items that should be added. He stated that he hopes that the sales tax passes, because if it does not and this money has to be taken out, then next year there will be a 50t increase in ad valorem taxes. Commissioner Saunders stated that regardless of whether the sales tax passes, the .64 mills will remain in place and the,Commission has ,( to decide if that should be increased to some other level to provide additional reserve for capital improvements over the years or whether they want to take the gamble of the sales tax passing. Budget Director Zalka stated that another thing to keep in mind is if the sales tax passes, ad valorem taxes cannot be lowered for capital , .. .. , .. &OOK 106 P~\,! 573 ¡ ,~ag,e 3~ t ¡;:i l ~-_.---- _.,..,._""....._.....""------..~ '...'4"_~._11'.. ....._-;_...-........"-_.,._-,.,.,'_."_.......-".;._.."'.~-,,.., ."'" -".."~.-,..,-",.,.,'~"'......._,-,- ........-".....-..... "OD( iOö F~',¡ 574 AUGUST 21, 1987 eo whatever is adopted this year has to be continued in the future at least at that minimum Ip.vel. Commissioner Saunders stated that if the capital improvements tax levy is increased, it will encourage voters to not vote for tbe sales, tax because they will know that there is money in the budget already, adding however, if this budget is not increased, it may give the voters the incentive to vote for the sales tax knowing that this will eliminate a future increase in this budget in future years. Budget Analyst Litsinger stated that the total budget including the reserve is a 1.2375 millage rate, which means that if the sales tax passes, this would not be reduced next year any lower than 1.2375 mills. Budget Director ~alka stated that if the Commission wants to put aside $700,000 for the libraries in case the bond issue is not done, this would increase the mills to .72 instead of the .64 mills. County Manager Dorrill stated that he has indicated all along that there would be opportunities to cut this year's tentative tax increase as proposed in the tentative budget. He noted that there is risk inherent in doing this. He noted that the special reserve is $4.8 million on the County-wide basis and there is a corresponding $1.1 .million with the total being approximately $6 million, adding that if all of this were to be cut out the proposed tax increase would go from approximately 19% increase down to 3-1/2 or 4% for next year's budget. ,He noted that on any annual basis, there has been about $2 million '. , ~: I ,;' '1,·· r ,: ":~.;,:-J .p~ge 32 ..., , " ;::J:':: " .. - .. _lIIIO ...,__""'~_"_'''''_;''''" ^ "C"~_""""'__'_"'''''''''~''''''''''·'''''''_~~'·'"_'''~_''''-''_'__'"'''·."~"".."",,.~ .,.,.,._."--._.,,...,;_.~~....._....-,,"~~-"- -. AUGUST 21, 1987 of work that is not CIE or growth management work, but in order to take the first step towards the sales tax, a portion of this could be cut in hopes that the voters will adopt the sales tax referendum in October. He stated that there could be some consideration given to splitting the difference, by keeping some in reserves and also accomplish some tax cuts. Commissioner Glass questioned what type of percentage increase would be necessary if this total program was cut and the sales tax failed, to which Mr. Dorrill stated that assuming that the five year program would not be subst~ntially changed and there was a need to fund this through ad valorem taxes and increased impact fees, there .., would have to be tax increases as high as 50\ for the ensuing five year per'iod. Commissioner Glass stated that the incentive is to work through the' sales""tax mechanism. Mr. Dorrill stated that there are other options like cutting the $200 million program or incurring long-term debt, but these are less attractive in terms of trying to accomplish this project list. The County Manager questioned if some money is cut in this fund could it be added bac" in to account for the bulk of the salary increases, to which Budget Director Zalka stated that the capital millage rate cannot be lowered and then increase the general fund millage rate, adding that each millage rate is set separately. She stated that it would have to be levied in capital and then transferred . ¡' ,~ ;.\ ~J ;~'''' : ~I' ,I aOOK 106 PAr,t 575 Page 33 ~ \ r ~ 1 .... ¡ , , , '4 ", iÍ, ¡U . \ "." , " .! ':,' ~:,j. ~'t 'ï:~ ,. ....,_,""_"..........,_,__"'_'.'....M_.~~"".."_.,.,. ','_Ü,__ _...,.,w.,~,,,",,.,,__.,,,....._·.._, lORn',! 57ß AUGUST 21, 1987 to the operating budget if this capital money is going to be used to pay for salary increases. County Manager Dorrill stated that the pay increases could be taken out of the operating reserve and in the event that there was an emergency, money would have to be transferred out of capital to cover 'that expenditure. He stated that because there is about $2 million annually in non CIE work, he would recommend that the difference be split and cut $3 million out of this reserve, keep $3 million in the event that it is needed, which will mean a tax decrease from 19\ to around a 10 or 11% increase. Budget Director Zalka stated that if the county was to levy the rollback rate for c~pital, which would mean levying the same amount of dollars for capital next year as in this year, overall that would mean a County-wide 7-1/2% tax increase which is very reasonable. County Manager Dorrill stated that the risk has to be balanced with the benefits, adding that the benefits in this case being next year's tax increase over the following year's tax increase. He noted that all $6 million could be cut out of the budget and next year's taxes are going to about a 4% increase over this past year or it can be left , in and there will be an 18% tax increase for next year or something could be done inbetween. He noted that the $6 million in this capital reserve account is there in case the sales tax fails. Commissioner Saunders stated that some budget decisions have been made that will result in approximately a 3% increase in taxes due to ( , Page, 34 J'#I~: ~.. J ~, '- ~ - f .' ~, ~~ . ,. ~ .<'i, - - - '~"·~_·_·"·'·'·~·_'·~...,,,_~,..r~ ..__......"'-""'""'.,~"..,-----...¥'..~_.,.._;'." .",......""".""..-'"~-~_._.,,'.......:; AUGUST 21, 1987 Sheriff's budget and now it needs to be decided what percentage increase in taxes is acceptable for this year. He noted that if the tax increase is only to be 3% then this reserve has a zero balance, or if the increase is lIt, then the reserve would have $3 million, or if the increase is 19%, then the reserve would have $6 million. County Manager Dorrill stated that some consideration to cut this amount by some number i~ warranted as there is the opportunity for the sales tax and if the voters adopt the sales tax, there will not be a problem, but if it fails, there will be some impacts. County Manager Dorrill stated that last year's tentative budget was a 22' increase and the final budget was 18% increase. Budget Director Zalka stated that last year $6.5 million was levied and rollback taxes, meaning to collect the same amount of dollars plus the growth money is $6.7 million. She stated that $5.4 million is needed to do the first year of the plan. She noted that if the County' went back to rollback and said they were going to maintain the same level two years in a row that might reflect well on presenting the sales tax in the same year, adding that the capital outlay commitment is being maintained from ad valorem taxes and then proposing sales tax a8 an additional source of revenue. She noted that if this is done,' it would only provide $1.3 million in reserves and of that, $700,000 may ¡ be needed for the librðry which would then leave $600,000 for future projects. County Manager Dorrill stated that he would recommend keeping , , ;..,1;' ; ~j, -;: . ' aOOK lOB PAr.[ 577 Page' 3S Î I,' H¡~· Jfli) :'!, . xc¡ ,~ ' If," ,l - ~ ~ ':~ ':~l¡,- ',.' ,-' ,'l· , if' _ _'}.~, . ".".... ",' ,- , ,.;. Ij- ~~____"'_4""'_."","'""_'_<'_"_'''~''·__'''~·"'·'~N'''~'''_'··'''·''''''~'.''''-'-''.- '0011. 10ô W' 578 AUGUST 21, 1987 a $3 million reserve and cut $3 million out of this and the proposed tax increase for next year would be around llt. Commissioner Pistor indicated that the $3 million is the maximum that he would consider taking out because he feels that the project list is too conservative to begin with. , Mr. Dorrill stated that there have been a lot of promises made but he feelA that there can still be sufficient reserves for the operating budget. He noted that a tax increase is inevitable, but it would be half of what it was last year and the public could not find fault on that and at the same time, the Commission has still protected them- u..... :,~j stated that he is in support of what the County Manager is suggesting. , '~I':, :,:. He noted that they came up wi th a figure of $70 million that the County ,"~ : ''01, . will need over the next five years. He noted that whether the 8a1es'1 "'tl,,, .,~:.' selves in the event that the sales tax does not pass. Mr. Stan Whitcomb, Chairman of the Citizens Advisory Committee, tax passes or not, the needs have to be met. He noted that last year, they suggested 2 mills and it appears that 2 mills is still what is needed over the five year period for infrastructure. He noted that the idea of 8 sales tax mekes good sense and it should be pursued, adding that if the sales tax referendum was not available, he would suggest that the $6 million be left in the reserve account. He indicated that if the difference of the $6 million is split to $3 million, that would bring the .64 capital improvement figure up to a I mill capital impro- vement figure which is where it was last year before the rollback. He ".: ;': ;, r' '.., 'l'U;;;:,·,,·~·,:c ; ,1:';' Il; f pé" ;'}.:\1 ~ ~r(: r. j i '""~.. Page 36 .!, ~. - - ~_______, _.........~"._,.."_~.''"MW"»_.'~w_'"....,.__..'"'''_.._....",''...,____'''''''~ ~. ""'--''''._.--'' """"'.' _....__"""_""'_-',~~,__._,",o,, ~.._".".'_'"~_,..."..'"'_._.."..,.",..,,,,."'...,-. AUGUST 21, 1987 .j~,' .': ;:,"'noted that with the 1 mill, there would be an 11% tax increase rather 't~, ',' ,': than a 19' increase aCId in looking through the categories that are coming up in the next year, this should be sufficient money to handle those projects. He noted that if the sales tax passes, there are alternatives that could be investigated rather than simply having excess in capital improvements. Commissioner Saunders stated that there should be additional reser- ves becauso of the risk involved with regards to the sales tax. County Manager Dorrill stated that there is risk involved, but there will also be capital improvement projects aside from what is in the five year growth management project. He noted that if this is the consensus of the Board, there will be a $3 million reserve between the two funds and there will be approximately $3 million cut out of the two Budget Director Zalks stated that she will prepare the numbers and have them to the Board members before the wrap-up session. *** There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned by Order the Chair - Time: 1:00 P.M. aOOK lOR P~',r 579 Page 37 -<--- ......_"'--,,~,..,~"'-- >.' '--"-'-~""""-"-"~'''''''''-'''''''''"''--" "_.,._..,-,,-,,~,,,----,-