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BCC Minutes 06/15/1988 S Naples. Florida. June 15. 1988 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board ot County Commissioners in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board ot Zoning Appeals and aa the governing board(s) ot such special districts as have been created according to law and having conducted business herein, ..t on this date at 7:00 P.M. in SPECIAL SESSIOR in Building -P- of the Govern8ent Coaplex, East Naples, Florida, with the following ..aber. pre.ent: CHAIRMAN: Arnold Lee Glas. VICE-CHAIRMAN: Burt L. Saunders John A. Pistor Max A. Haase Anne Goodnight ALSO PRESEJn': Maureen Kenyon and Virginia Magri, Deputy Clerks: .eil Dorrill, County Manager; Toa Olliff. Assistant to the County Manager: Ken Cuyler, County Attorney: Marjorie Student. Assistant county Attorney; Jane Fitzpatrick, Growth Management Director: George Archibald, Public Works Adainistrator: Kevin O'Donnell, Public Services Adainistrator: Clift Crawford, Parks & Recreation Director: Wanda Jone., Honaing and Urban Iaprovezents Director: Jeff Perry, MPO Director: Bill Laverty, Utilities Operations Coordinator: Mike Arnold, As.i.tant Utilities Adainistrator: Bryan Milk, Dave Weeks. Ron Lee, Charle. Gauthier, and Mike Doabrowskl, Planners; Barbara Cacchione, Acting Planning and Zoning Director: Robert Wiley, Growth Management Engineer: and Kaney Israelson, Adalnlstrative Assistant to the Board. e* 115"".t557 Page 1 ... 115 w.( 560 JUNE 15, 1988 Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on June 5, 1988, as evIdenced by Affidavit ot Publication filed with the Clerk, publIc hearing was opened to consider recommendations for all ele.ent. of the Gr~h Manageaent Plan. Growth Manageaent Director Fitzpatrick stated that the 1985 Growth Manage.ent Act aandate. a new concept in planning in whlch all counties and cities within Florida must redevelop their land use plan In 8Uch a aanner that it closely integrates with the public facility plan Is and directly linked to the annual budget process. She stated tha~ the .cope of just an endeavor for Collier County included the Involveaent ot each of the divisions within the County Manager's orga- nizatIon, She reported that this public hea~ing is the 190th public ..eting of the propo.ed growth management plan, adding that there has been 153 public ..etings of the CAC, the CCPC has held 20 public workshop. and hearings and the Board has also held 16 public workshops and bear ings . She indicated that the August 1, 1988, transmittal date aarke the end of Phase I of the planned development tor the proposed Growth Manage..nt Plan. She noted that upon submittal of the plan, the State Departaent of Coaaunity Affairs has 90 days to complete a preliainary review of the plan for ~ompliance with both Chapter 163 of the Florida Statute and Rule 9J5 at the Florida Administrative Code. She noted that this is a preliminary review and not the formal review by the State tor coapl1ance. She indlcated that at the end of Page 2 - ,-, .~,- .roW! 1'. 1988 the 90 day period, the DCA will send the County written comments iden- tIfying any area or non-eoaplianee along wIth other advlsory comments and upon the County's receipt ot those comments, the County has 60 days to take those coaaents into consideration and hold further public hearings and to adopt the Gr~h Management Plan which will take until about January 1, 1989. She stated that once the plan is adopted by CoIIJer County, it au8t be resubaitted to the DCA for their formal coaplianee review which will take about 45 days and then by August 1, 1989, the County 8U8t i.pleaent the ordinances and develop land deve- lopaent regulations which are consistent wIth the new Growth Kanageaent Plan. .ÚI ¡ -..uuv &.AIUUWI T AI. COOKD 1. A ':1 OW BLDŒ1fT Gr~h Manage..nt Director Fitzpatrick stated that the purpose of the Intergovernmental CoordInation Element is to identify and resolve inc08p8tlble goals, objectives. and policies and development proposed in the Gr~h Manageaent Plan and to determine and respond to the nee48 for coordinatIon proce.se. with adjacent local government along with regional and .tate entitie. to the extent possible within the local authority. She stated that the element contalns an overview of the County and it. organization, the existing coordlnation mechanisms and their ettectiveness and it also identlfies issues that have I evolved troa the d.velopaent ot the otber elements ot this proposed gr~h aanage..nt plan where intergovernmental coordination may need 1* 115 PI'.{ 5Gl Page 3 ;á . ~, ~i ~~. ." I' ., ".' i; '. '* 115 w~ 562 I JUNE lð, 1988 to be iaproved upon. She stated that the GOP's wlthin this element address the establishaent of intergovernmental communication and level of .erviee coordination aechanisms within the C~unty, the coordination of Collier County'. land use planning strategy with that of other governaent and private entities, and the coordination of annexation plans of all incorporated areas within the County. She stated that .ince the review of this element during the workshop, the County Attorney has reviewed this eleaent and had some suggested changes to the poUc ie.. She .tated that on Page 67, Policy 1.2.1., language 8boald be added to the end of that policy that should state "between re8pe~ted governaental or private entities." She noted that Policy 1.2.2 should be deleted. She stated that the last Policy 1.3.1. should have the words .or aap series" added to the end of it. She indicated that these are the only changes that were made since the Soard of County Co..i.sioner. workshop. CoaaJ..Icmer 881mðer. aoved, Hconded by Co_lssioner GoodnIght aDd carried unaniaoualy. that the Intergoverna~ntal CoordinatIon &leaeat be approved with the cbaDge. .. outlined by .taff. MUS ftADI'f KLIDID'r MPO Director Perry stated that the Mass Transit Eleaent is one of the ...ller eleaent. in the Coaprehensive Plan and talks about the fu~re needs and de.ire. of having a ..s. transit systea. He .tated that there i. aentlon of a recently started rural transit system bet- Page" JUNE 15, 1988 ween Iaaokalee and Naples. He indicated that the element does not coaait any public funds to the start-up ot any transit system, but it siaply acknowledges that soaeday there will be a need for it, and the County will continue to aonitor that need and in the event that public agencIes desire to start up a system, the appropriate plan. and progr.. will be iapleaented. Coaai..ioner Goodnight aoved, seconded by Co..i..ioner Baase and carried ~t80Q81y, tl1.at the Ma8. Transit Ile..nt be approved. AVIATIOIf 1rT.acarr KPO Director Perry .tat~d that the Aviation Element primarily deal. with the ...ter planning and expansion or the Immokalee Airport .. well as the aaintenance of the operating capabilities of the Evergladea City Airport, He stated that the Naples Airport is owned aDd operated by the City of Naples and is not part or the Aviation IU 8II8n t . Be noted that the I880kalee component of the Aviation Ele- aent talks about the adoption of a master plan tor the Immokalee Airport to cau.e It. expansion and enhancement and the element also dlscue... the continued aalntenanee and operation or the Everglades Ci ty Airport. CoaaI..ioner Pi.tor questioned if the Marco Airport is added in the near future, doe. the County have a chance of puttlng it into the 8leaent now or wait untIl the first aodification, to which Mr. Perry I .tated that to the. extent that it is feasible and up until the time tOOt 115p1'.\ 5ß3 Page ð ... 115 PV~ 564 JUNE 15, 1988 the plan 1s adopted, the County is always in a position of adding the approprIate language. He stated that it the County should take over the Marco Airport withIn a reasonable ti.e, some language could be added to the ele..nt, but if there is not enough time, it could be put In during the next review cycle and add the appropriate language dealing with the policies tor that particular airport. Coa8Js.ioner PI.tor aove4, .econded by Co..issioner Goodn1ght and carried 1m8Di80a.8ly, that the Aviation Eleaent be approved. SOLID usn ELDmft Public Works Adainistrator Archibald stated that this element deal. priaarily with the County's reponsibility to dispose of Solid Waste County-wide and the plan outli~fS the near term requirements for a five year plan and long-tera requirulents tor a 20 year plan. He .tated that the eleaent8 that are ou~lined include goals and objec- tIve8 that deal priaarily with collec~ion, disposal, recycling and recovery, and a public awareness section. Coaais8ioner Pi.tor questioned if there is any discusslon or plana UDder the aandatory collection, to which Public Works Administrator ArchIbald stated that the iapleaentation ot mandatory collection is being projected at the ti88 that the current tranchises terminate, whIch 1. currently 1990. He noted that the basic sub-element indica- t.. that the County should continue to be tlexible in looking at a DU8ber of different alternatives. Page 6 . - - - JUNE 15, 1988 Co8aJ.s100er Goodnight aoved, .econded by Coaais.Ioner PI.tor and carried UDaDJaoaaly, that the SolId Wa.te Eleaent be approved. POT .ur.a ... Tn ELDmrr Otilitie. Operations Coordinator Laverty stated that the current 4r8ft of the Potable Water Ele.ent was completed on April 1.8, 1988, and the GOP'. were revIsed a. of 3une 9, 1988, and these changes were aade upon recoaaendation of the County Attorney's office as directed by the Bo8rd durIng the public workshops. He stated that these Changes were aade to bring the GOP's into compliance with Rule 9J5 and Chapter 163 of the Florida Statutes. He noted that the element itself Includes four sections: ba~kground regulatory framework, complete Inventory of all public facilities for public systems, potable water .,.t..., and private potable water systems, levels of service, and the GOP's. Mr. Milton Hahn of Miaai .tated that he i8 asking for inclusion of hi. property Into the urban area, adding that potable water would be available to that .ite based on the new plant being built on Immokalee Road, one aile north of the property. Mr.. Evelyn Jone., re.ident of Foxfire, questioned if there is 8088 Nay that rapid building can be slowed down until the County is 8Ure there i. going to be enough good, pure water supply for everyone? Mr. Laverty .tated that this is the Intent of the plan, adding that a fraaework will be provided to be sure 'that there 18 going to be enough I tOO( 115 pn 5G5 Page 7 ... 115 WJ. 566 JUNE 15, 1988 potable water for all County residents in a 5 year and 10 year time fraae . Coa81..ioner Goodnight aoved, seconded by Co..issloner Baase and carried uaanlaoaaly, that the Potable Water Eleaent be approved. SUIT .u:r ØIID ELDmrr UtIlities Operations Coordinator Laverty stated that the comments that were aade concerning potable water are much the same tor sanitary sewer. He noted that the level of service tor the sanitary sewer is 100 gallon. per capita per day with a 20% tactor tor commercial, light industrial and tourist use. He stated that by comparison, water is 135 gallons per capita per day. Hr. Milton Hahn of Miaai stated that in the area that he would like Included in the urban area, there Is a tract large enough to sup- port a sewer treataent plant to serve the entire area and could be put in by a developer. ~ssioner Goodnight aove4, seconded by Co..i..ioner Ha.se and ~led unan1aoaaly, that the Sanitary Sewer Eleaent be approved. BOOS DIG In' . nnnrP Rousing and Urban Iaproveaent Director Jones stated that the pur- po'. of this ele.ent i. to develop the appropriate plans, programs and policies that are intended to i.prove and increase the housing stock to aeet the current and projected housing needs of the residents of Collier County. She stated that Rule 9J5 requires that the County Page 8 I JUNE 15, 1988 develop GOP'. that would address the current housing stocks to deal with the ell.lnation and prevention of substandard and deteriorating bou8ing and to Japrove neighborhoods, as w~ll ~S to ~ddress the housing need8 of current and future populations. She noted that in developing the plan, concerns were identified which determined that there i8 relatively new housing stock in the County, but there ~re areas of deterloraUon. She reported that there is a growing population of essentIal service workers with fa.ilies that have housing needs that are not currently being aet. She noted that the cost of land and developaent affects the rent and also the cost ot Luying housing, adding that this is what the Hou.ing Element is intended to address. Slste~ Pat Siemen stated that she would like to express her sup- port of the Housing Eleaent and to particularly support any moves that the County could adopt toward aaking incentives for affordable housing coaing froa the private sector a. well with regards to the study of iapact fee. and expediting peraitting processes and the possibility of waiving building peralta so that those from the private sector that are Interested in providing affordable housing would have minimal IncentIve. fro. the County. SIster Maureen Kelleher fro. Florida Rural Legal Services in laaokalee, presented a prepared statement on behalf of the tarm- workers coaaunity, adding that this element is tar improved from when It w.. fir.t started. She stated that she would like to see a detini- aooc 115 P1'.[ 5G7 Page 9 ,¡o. "( ", 1;;' ~" .. 115 m 568 JUKE 16, 1988 tion in the ele.ent for the word "adequate", She stated that this word is used in the objectives and policies and according to the mini- 8U8 criteria ot 9J5, an objective is to tind a specific measurable Interaediate end that is achievable, which marks a progress for the goal. She noted that in several places there are dream wishes and the Coan~ will not know when they have reached the 90al or objective, because it is not stated in hard language, She indicated that the word adequate 1. used when referring to an adequate supply or an ade- quate site and indicated that this should be turther defined. She stated that also in the ~rrent ele.ent, there is not a clear concept with regards to displace.~nt of people, adding that she would ask that thIs be turther defined. Mrs. Jones stated that adequate is a ditticult term to define and that one of the things that she discovered was that there were a lot of thIngs that were not known about the population in the County and the projected housing needs of future population, She stated that she would have to deter to legal counsel tor the detinitlon of adequate as to whether it can be clearly defined in an acc~ptable way. She noted that 'Ms. Kelleher is correct with regards to the housing needs in Iaaokalee. She stated that infor.ation tor the vacancy rate, the nuaber of sites and the location of sltes exists, but not in the sour- ce. that she was able to use in order to come up with a uniform approach to developing the plan. She stated that her intent was to Page 10 . . ... ';;. , " -..,'.., ,- -...,... JUNE 15, 1988 ¡ -I I develop this kind of intoraation so that she could come up with some baseline data to proceed with tor future goals and objectives. She indicated that displace.ent beco.es a very difficult issue to deal wIth, addIng that it there i8 going to be sate, decent, sanitary housing, and it i8 going to be a uniform approach across the County, then the .ituation that exi8ts in Immokalee becomes extremely criti- cal, She stated that the is8ue i8 whether the County develops a 8tan- dard tor housing conditions and what will be acceptable as tar a8 sate, decent, and sanitary housing is concerned an~ then whether people will still be allow~d to live in what is considered very unsafe, undecent and unsanitary housing, She stated that it becomes a policy que8tion and a aor~l is8ue with regards to how the County can jU8tity allowing people to continue to reside in housing which i8 sl8ply untit tor human habitation because there is no alternative hou8Ing available. She stated that one of the intents of this element 1. to adopt a .tandard housing code which will addres8 these concerns, adding that dlsplace.ent, relocation, alternative housing and replace- aent housing will a180 be addressed in this code, eo..is.ioner Saunders stated that he agrees with Mrs. Jones, but the 1.8Ue 1. if these people are displaced and there is no place to go, then they will, be sleeping in their cars. Sister ~elleher stated that the plan in 1983 basically said that unles. there was a suitable housing replacement, the County would not " " eoo( 115 W{ 569 Page 11 t:. '. ~~ ~.t' ~ ---., "1<,- '~ :,.. ~" ~,; ,;. ... 115 pro( 570 h ~. ~ ¡,""..: " <, s JUNE 15, 1988 put 8oaeone out of their ho.e. ActIng Co-.nnity Developaent Administrator Olliff stated that staff i8 trying to address the specific issues that relate to the definItion ot adequate and follow-up documentation and also address the other i.sue. in the .inimum housing code, which will come back as 8 follow-up and a docu.ent to this policy. Coaaissioner S«unders stated that there are two ways to address thi8; either in the plan or in the ordinances that implement the plan, Mr. Clliff stated that his recommendation is that all the specific type~ of language .hould be in the follow-up and the accompanying docuaents, whIch in this case would be the minimum housing code. Co..is.loner Goodnight stated that they should wait for the housing code to addre.s adequate housing and replacement, but in Policy 1.6.1 adequate sites could be better detined it it stated urban area. a. being the adequate site. Mr. Olliff stated that this language could be added, but he feels that it 81so need. to be handled in turther documents. eoaai8.ioner Plstor questioned if the County could go to the packing house. to deter.ine how many people they expect to employ this tall, and that would give .0.. intormation as to what will be needed tor hou8ing? Mr.. Jone. .tated that there are several places that they will be vi.Iting to co.e up with figures to find out what is needed and what . Page 12 :.; '.' 1, ", ~ \Ii: 1 >,,', JUNE 15, 1988 ~bey wIll have to deal with, adding that it is known that the popula- tlon In Iaaokalee swells during the season. She stated that since I I I I I ! ¡ ¡ i ¡ thIs el...nt was presented to the Board in the workshop, the RPP's for ~b. Iaaokalee Master Plan have gone out and she is anticipating the re~rn of those by July and a study will then be undertaken which will gIve the County soae baseline data. She stated that with the poten- tJal of the .Pocket of Poverty. program, a plan has to be developed, She noted that she hopes that she will be able to address the whole problea with these studies and programs, Mr. Milton Hahn of MIami stated that the area that he would like included in the urban area would serve as an important part to the 8Olu~ion of affordable h~~sing in the County. CoaaJssioner Ooodnlgb~ aoved, seconded by Co..issloner Saunders aDd carrled unaniaoualy, that the Housing Ele..nt be approved wIth the change in Pollcy 1.1.1 to read .provi8ions of location and adequate urb8D sites adopted.. JIA'lURAL GROO'JrDM4TD AQUIFER JŒC1IARGE ELEJŒNT Environaental Science and Pollution Control Director Lorenz stated that the Growth Manageaent Act requires the County's Comprehen8ive Plan to develop the GOP'8 to protect the tunction of natural ground- water aquifer recharge areas, adding fhat these recharge areas are are.. where rainfa~l can infIltrate into the ground and replenIsh the groundwater. He noted that the function or these areas is to reple- IOOC 115 pS'.[ 571 Page 13 :;,.' I ,~, ¡ .. J l' ,f ~\. . . ... 115 w.{ 572 " Þ,' JUNE 115, 1988 nl.h the groundwater with an adequate quantity and quality of water. Be .tated that the County's groundwater system has three aquifer systeas; the surficial, the intermediate and the Floridan aquifer 8y8tea . He stated that the surficial aquiter systea is the one that 1. ao.t sensitIve to conta.ination from land surface activIty as it is the shallowest and it is also the system where most of the potable water supply Is received. He stated that the plan recommends a eoaprehensive strategy consisting of planning, monitoring and infor- aation of co8pOnents to protect the tunction or the recharge areas, Be noted that because all of Collier County is the recharge area, the plan. recoaaends identification of area. most sensitive to con- taainatlon. He noted that there are two goals; one is addressed to protecting the function of the recharge areas with regards to degrada- tion of water qualIty and the second goal i8 ensuring that there Is adequate quantity of water that replenishes the aquifer system, .tated that the aquIfer systeas in Collier County are generally He recharged fro. rainfall that taIls directly on the surface of the County. He indicated that there are basically six objectIves: 1) Identify and aap the recharge areas that are most sensltlve to con- taainatlon: 2) adopt the local groundwater protection ordinance to protect the .ensitive aquifer recharge areas; 3) collect and evaluate data and Intoraatlon to aonitor the quality of groundwater; 4) establish a prograa that continually supplies the public wIth intor- Page 14 JUNE 15, 1988 aation and aaterials concerning groundwater protection issues in the County; 5) develop a plan to preserve critical çroundwater recharge are..; and 6) specify local criteria tor ensuring that land develop- aent activities do not unacceptably alter the timing or reduce the aacunt of groundwater recharge. Mr. Lorenz stated that SFWHD identifed several areas in the County that have very large potential tor groundwater supply In terms of the abilIty of the underlying geologic formations to transmission water to wellfields. He noted that these areas are in the north county along with the Coral Reef Aquifer and along the Fahkahatchee Strand, adding that the SFWMD estimates that there 1. sufficIent yield to take the County through 20 years in these areas. He stated that In the aquifer recharge draft element, these areas are mapped as being hIgh tranvlsity areas and areas of high water potential. CoaaJ..ioner Goodnight aoved, s.conded by Co..isslouer Ra... and carried UDaniaoualy, that the ..tural Groundwater Aquifer Recharge IU~t be approved. ftAnIC CILul.&'fIcnr rr.~ MPO Director Perry stated that the purpose of this element is to plan for the future of aotorized .nd non-motorized needs for residents and vi.itor. of Collier County. He s~ated that the element includes tour basic eoaponent., 1) discussion and inventory of the existing highway facilities for both State and County, 2) Identification of aoO( 115w.r573' Page 15 " \ .I' .._,---_."""".. J; , f.~ ~ j; ,,' ... 115"'...574 " JUNE 15, 1988 current deficiencies for both the County and State highway systems, 3) eetablishaent of .inlmal level of service standards for the County and ~be State Highway syste., and 4) an implementation strategy for the ..lntenance at the level of service standards which is what is done in the event that the County i. unable to maintain an acceptable level of -rvice. He Indicated that there is a future neeas s~ction that iden- tltie. through the year. 1994, 1999, and the year 2015 the projected highway deaands and hlghwny needs. He noted that there is al.o a GOP section that attempts to layout a framework of policies by which the County will operate In the development and preparation of it. future transportation and planning n,eds, Mr. Lyle Richardson, Chairman of the MPO, stated that he has con- cerna with two road. in the northeast section ot the County that the Board has decided to keep In the plan, adding that he i. present to encourage the Board of County Comaissloners to do just that. Hr. Milton Hahn of Miaal 8tated that the basic road network around hi. property is substantially in place as there is 3 miles of Iaaokalee Road frontage: one aile south of hi. property i. Golden Gate Blvd.; and east of the property i. Wilson Blvd. He stated that there 1. acces. to the area from Golden Gate Blvd. and there is talk of extending VanderbIlt Beach Road eastward of C.R, 951, Col. John Beebe stated that the road plan has been well thought out and the level. of .ervice in the tive year time frame appear to be ,..., 'f..' f' -:. Page 16 JUNE 15, 1988 reasonable. He noted that 10, 15, or 20 years from now, there .ay be funding problea. unless the County imposes adequate impact fee., addIng that it will be important to proceed with designatinq the arterial and collector roads and getting the right-of-way land purchased before developaent blocks the County off or makes the cost exorbi tant. He indicated that the Capital Improvement Program is to provide levels of service necessary to avoid grid lock and aaintain a re..onable flow of traffic. Mr. Will1aa Vines stated that he discussed this subject at a pre- vioas works bop session that has to do with two road links in the northeast section of the d~s1gnated urban area. He noted that one extends froa Iaaokalee Road to the Lee County line east of I-75 and the other extends over I-75 two .iles to the east where it deadends and its position is two al1es north ot Immokalee Road. He stated that land developaent in the general area east of I-75 and north of Iaaokalee Road Is nearly completely planned and approved with develop- aent well underway. He stated that much ot that area has been incor- porated in DRI plans which have been approved. He indicated that the future traftlc voluaes and future trattic patterns which would be g8fterated by the densities and the road network in those approved , plane can be seen ~nd carefully .easured, He noted that density in that area is quite low, the collector and arterial street systea is beginning to exist, with .ore planned, and is well defined and will Page 17 'DOlt 115 P1'.t 575 ~.. .;, it 'I:"; ':I: i;;';, !", ,...' , 1t'~~ .~~. . ,.. j ". 1- ~, l' ~ ( ... 115 nr.t. 576 JUNE 15, 1988 function "'ell. He stated that this ar~a has b~en subjected to a care- tul traffic engineering analysis which resulted in a determination that When the area is completely developed, there will be the neces.lty for four travel lanes connecting between Immokalee Road and Bonita Beach Road in Lee County, both of which interchange with 1-75 and that those tour travel lanes are planned to b~ incorporated in the c0881tted north/south arterial which is indicated on the arterial road plan and 1. co..ltted by the DRI development orders for both the WOodlands and the ParKlands DRI which lie adjacent to the west edge of this roað. He indicated that the study determined that the planned east/west arterial that .ust overpass I-75 in order to deadend two atl.. to the east will never be justified by traffic, adding that planned den.ities in the area, the plans and existing roads in the area will aate It an additIonal extraordinarily expensive arterIal that is unnece.sary. He indicated that recommendation i. that these ~ road links be deleted trom the road plan. He stated that he sup- port. the logic of long-range road planning and the logic of sup- . porting the long-range road plans with good technical data. He noted that the reco..ended deletion of the.~ two road links is based on a careful traffic engineering analysis which was performed by Tratflc Engineer John Barr of Barr, Dunlop & Associates. He noted that it there are any que.tions, Mr. Barr will answer them and explain how he reached the conclusion that he did. Page 18 ,-,'. -,- JUNE IS, 1988 Coaalssioner Hasse questioned if the internal road system will be 8Uffic1ent to handle the traffic in the area, to which Mr. Vines stated that the internal road syste., together with the planned north/south arterIal, will be entirely adequate to serve the entire study area together with the passing through traffic, adding that this 8y8t.. 1nterlocks at the south with Immoxalee Road, Mr. John W. Barr of Barr, Dunlop & Associates, stated that Mr. V1nes auaaarized the results of the study and the analysis that was done, adding that the basic conclusions that he made were properly stated as the conclusions of the study. He noted that at the time he started the study, he did not have the idea that he would be able to 8Upport Mr. VInes' suspicions that the east/west road and the north/south road would not be needed. He stated that with normal developaent and normal control of development, it would be expected that the spacing of arterial roads in the area would require an addi- t1onal north/south or east/west connection through there. He Indi- cated that because of the exceptional low density and the unusual nature of the configuration of the collector and local road connec- tJons provIding access to the developments and then considering to the east of this area, there are substantial barriers to development, it was felt that no acre addltional through trattic tacilities are needed other than those tþat are presently pl~nned and committed. He stated that the traffIc loadlngs on those that are planned and needed will aoo( 115 W( 577 Page 19 y~, i .' . ,..; "IIC t " .' ,. U5 wo{ 578 +> .. '" ~. JUNE 15, 1988 adequately serve the arterial needs of the area. Coaais.ioner Pistor referred to the overhead map and questIoned who will pay for the roads that are colored in green, to which Mr. Perry stated that these roads will be constructed in the same manner all the roads are presently being constructed which will be by gas taxes, lapact fees, donation of rights-of-way, adding that there are several projects in the area that have yet to be rezoned and there is a possibIlity of obtaining a right-of-way when they come in tor rezoning. He stated that there i8 a large 640 acre parcel to the east of Quail Creek which has yet to be rezoned and is immediately adjacent to a~ south of the east/we8t roadway, He noted that there i8 a Com- altaent in the Parkland. DRI to reserve a right-ot-way along the 8outhern boundary or as an alternative. they can connect their Inter- nal roadway .yste. to that east/west connector that would then go further west over I-75. H~ stated that the project that Mr. Vines is presently working on has not come before the Board and if there is a deaand for a right-of-way in that particular parcel, then that right- of -way could be set aside. He stated that the options for obtaining right-of-way and building the roads are the same as they are for any otber roadway. that the County plans tor 1n the future. Co..i.sioner Pistor stated that the project that Mr. Vines is workl~g on is a .eeurity-type development with less than one unIt per acre and they would not need a second road going through the develop- ~ Page 20 '¡;' ,- -..-'- ~. .~ ,- .< . ... .,; , ; 1, ¿< I . r I ," . " .JUNE 15, 1988 8eftt. Be stated that 3 ailes of roadway one way and 2 8iles going the other way is not inexpensive to build and it the developers do not want the., they are going to resist contributing to them. He questioned that as long as there are circulating tacilit1es in the are., Why Is there a need tor duplication? Coaaissioner Saunders questioned 1s there is any guarantees that the private road or developer road will be built? He stated that the road 1. 8iaply shown on a proposed .ap and it a development is not buIlt there, then the road ~ill not be built, Commissioner Saunders questioned if it woul~ be ~oor planning to eliminate a right-of-way on the asSU8ption that at SO~e point in time, the developer will put a road .In? Mr. Perry stated that the particular north/south roadway that con- nects I880kalee Road to Bonita Beach Road is not specifically designed to provide access to that particular piece ot property. He noted that if they want to have a private roadway, they can still do that. Co..issioner Saunders stated that he has spoken with the developer and hi. attorney regarding these roads and he does not believe that the County should be designating roads it there is not going to be a need tor the., but it the transportation statf teels that there 1s a I legltiaate potential need, he does not,want to give up those roadways and then in 10 or 15 years have the County trying to figure out how to build. roadway in this area. 800( 115 Pi'.[ 57D Page 21 ... 115 n'.{ 580 JUNE 15, 1988 Mr. Perry stated that his .odeling indicates that there wIll be exce.sive loadings onto Bonita Beach Road and Immokalee Road as well a. the north/south road on the eastern fringe of Parklands beyond the year 2015. HI'! stated that it is because, projects like Quail Creek have only one access point to Immokalee Road and they, therefore, have to put all their traffic onto Immokalee Road, adding that if there is an alternative aeans of .oving in an east/west direction that is pro- vided between Iaaokalee Road and Bonita Beach Road then Some amount of traffIc froa 8omebody, someplace, will use that particular facility and the s..e would apply to the north/south road, He noted that this would tak~ 80me of the burden otf Immokalee Road and Bonita Beach Road . PublIc Works Adalnistrator Archlbald stated that the backbone of the arterial road system in Collier County that will serve the County In 10, 20, and 30 acre years is a network of roadways: both north/south and east/west. He stated that the east/west roadway net- work has roadways about every two miles and this network will be lapo:tant In serving the County long-term and that right-of-way should be preserved in SO88 fashion and the County's options should be kept open to assure that the east/west roadways that are needed in the future will be there. He stated that the north/south network 1s the .... as the east/west network system, adding that they are there for ..rving the County for overall circulation on a long-term ba8is. He Page 22 , ~ ."-, f' ~ .' . s ~ .JUNE 15, 1988 repor~ed that at the ti8e of network planning, the rights-of-way 8hould be reserved and in the future when land use actually occurs, then a specIfic need and corriðor should be looked at. ..... Rece..: 8:30 P.M. - Reconvened: 8:45 P.M. ..... Attorney George Varnadoe stated that it seems in road planning, ~he concept that the County i. trying to deal with is to save rights- of-way8 in appropriate areas until those areas and surrounding areas are buIlt up or there are planned projects and then it can be deter- ained how 8Uch road right-of-way is needed and where it is needed. stated that the proble. that he is having with leaving these roadways i. that once this Co.prehensive Plan 1s adopted. then there is no way for the developer to bring in this project because the Comprehensive Plan would have to be changed. He stated that this is a "Catch 22" 8ituation because the developer could not bring in the project because it WOUld not be in compliance with the Comprehensive Plan and the Coaprehenslve Plan cannot be changed until the project is brought in. Be 8tated that he agrees with the analysis of Mr. Archibald and the need for the east/west road going north approximately every 2 mIles it there wa. 808ewhere for the road to go to the east, but in this case, the road wIll deadend two .iles east ot I-75, He stated that WIth regards to the north/south road using the analysis ot Mr. Archibald, there is LIvingston Road and less than a mile away there is 1-75 and l/t aIle away, there will be another north/south road if this future Page 23 aoo( 115n';581 I -I I r He I , ¡ I , I ¡ f ./ i' .f ~, -..'...-.,."'...,.... '¡,.,'i. ,. ~j j - 115...~ 582 ,~l .(: . . .rUNE 15, 1988 road is kept In the plan, He stated that this road may be appropriate it 1-75 is not used for local traffic. but with the cost of roads, the County cannot afford to b~ building roads 1/4 mile away from an I 1 existing road that can be used tor local traffic. He stated that the policy that is being proposed indicates that th~ County shall require 8Uttlcient a8OUnt of right-of-way to facilitate no less than a cross section ot 6 traffic lanes. appropriate turn lanes, medians, drainage canals, shoulders sufficient for pull-oft and the landscaping for all roadways identified on the tuture traffic circulation map. He stated that this indicates that the developer i6 going to have to dedicate a & lane road, 1/4 .lle east ot 1-15 going east/west which is unreaso- nable. He indIcated that the Woodlands were required to set aside 150 feet of right-of-way for the County and in this future project, there would probably be about 250 teet or 300 teet that would be needed and would only .erve the 8 sections in this area, adding that these pro- jects already have access in a different place. He stated that if none or this land was zoned or permitted and there was no constructIon or davelop.ent in the area, there may be reason tor this, but this area has already had DRI's issued, He noted that some of these roads wJII never justify a 300 foot right-of-way and this seems like a very expensive exercise tor the County to go through. Hr. Perry 8tated that Mr. Varnadoe's assessment ot the right-of- way needs is essentially accurate, adding that the policy does not say Page 24 ~ ~.~ <J" i ..., "", .JUNE 15, 1988 that a lane. will be built every place lines are shown on the aap. He .tated that the policy states that the right-of-way will be acquIred that 1. nece.sary to build the 6 lanes, but only 2 or 4 lanes will be built If that Is all that is necessary at the time. He stated that the County will build what they have to in order to maintain the ¡ I ! ¡ ¡ t acceptable level of service, adding that the County is not planning tbe.. roads .iaply to provide access to those interior parcels. He .tated that the Planning Consultants have identified every access road that the.e project. are providing themselves, but this is in regards to their i.pact on the aajor highway system and if 1-75 has no more capacity to handle the traffic and 1~okalee Road has no aore capacity to handle the traffic, then the only thing that the County can do is Jook at new alternative alignment.. He noted that at some point in the tu~r., the County aay run out of places to put existIng lane. within the existing corridors and the mathematical models Indicate that there are .ufficient volumes of traffic to generate 6 lanes on the external roadways by the year 2015, and there will be an addi- tionaJ 30 year. beyond that, before the urban area is saturated. He DOted that there are people going to and through this area that have nothing to do with those projects, but they need to get from point "A" to point "8" and in order to do that an alternative access has to be provided to travel ea.t/west and north/south without having to use 8088 of the other facilities. aoo( 115 PAj£ 583' Page 25 Î r , f ;.. ~. 1:. ~. ~. ~. . ... 1151'1r.t584 ,.., f ,., ? JUNE 15, 1988 In answer to Co..ission~r Pistor, Mr. Perry stated that the traf- tic analy.i. Indicate. that 1-75 øhould have an interchange and it that 1. the case, the State will pay tor it and not the County, He stated that if it is an overpass, it will be expenslve, just like any other facIlity that is built through the wetlands area or around some obstruction of so.. sort. He noted that any time a facility has to be built to gain capacity tor the system, like buying rights-of-way and taking out exIsting buildi~gs, it is expensive, but if those rlghts-of- way are not there, it will be expensive. He stated that thi8 i8 .Iaply not a two mile str~tch of hlghway, it is either the begInning I t or the .nd of a very long stretch of highway that runs from County Road 101 which i. west of U.S. 41 to the eastern fringe of the County, adding that this is about 6 to 8 ailes, He reported that Oaks Blvd. 1. DOt a tour .ile segment between two east/west roads, adding that it extends north of Bonita Beach Road and it goes south several more .Iles to Pine Ridge Road, adding that these two roads are major Coa- ponent. of the highway network and they are important enough to be lett in the plan until it is identified more thoroughly that they .hould not be in the plan, at which time they can be deleted, eo..i.sioner Goodnight stated that she spoke with people in QuaIl Creek and they are opposed to this road, adding that even if the road doe. not connect to their road, there will still be other travelers in the area and their coaaunity will not be as secure as it Is presently. Page 26 .<: ~ ;i t . .', - ".-- JUNE 15, 1988 Coaa188ioner Pistor questioned if there has been any discussion wIth the DOT about this road being an interchange, to whIch Mr. Perry Indicated affiraatively, adding that the adopted plan calls for two new interchanges; one at Vanderbilt Beach Road and I-75 and the east/west road and 1-75. He noted that the interchange at Golden Gate parkw8y has been in the plan since the 1995 study was adopted and Is also in the work prograa. He noted that these other two interchanges are new ones that have been identified in the long-range plannIng prospective that aay or aay not be needed by the year 201S. He noted i I ¡ i ¡ i I I ¡ I , t ! ¡ ¡ I ¡ i I that DOT is doing a study elf the entire interstate system and they may develop a policy that says there wll1 not be an interchange, but as of now frea a network configuration, traffic movement, on and oft the facIlIty, he is anticipating that there will be a need for an Interchange at both these roads. Co..Issioner Plstor questioned how much will these two roads add to the shortfall, to which Mr. Perry stated neither of the roadways are in the five year capital improvement element time frame, addIng that it has been identified that there will be a need tor the north/south roadway by the year 1999 and the east/west roadway by the year 201!5. Co..i.sloner Pistor stated that because ot the low densIty in the are., it does not sound like these roads are going to be necessary. He noted that the i.paet tees in this area would not generate enough aoO( 115?n585 i, Page 27 115",.{ 586 JUNE 15, 1988 to buIld these roads. He stated that with these extra roads it Is goIng to add to the overall cost of the growth management program. Coaaissioner Saunders stated that the funding for roads is being contused wIth setting aside rights-of-way that may be needed in the future. He stated that it Is not known at this time how much those roads are going to cost or how they will be paid for, but the question 1. whether a policy is going to be established where the County sets as1de rights-of-way for future road construction in the event that thoae roads are needed. He stated that he is going to go along with needed than he does. staff on this aatter as the protessional statf knows better what Is ActIng Coaaunity Development Administrator Olliff stated that tant of the two due to the fact that 1-75 is running along the there are two roads in th~ plan and the east/w~st road Is more impor- north/south road. He stated that he would ask that the two roads be voted on separately. Coaalssioner Glass stated that 1-75 is projected to be 8 lanes In the ~uture and having another road within a 1/4 ml1e of it, does not aake a lot of sense. He indicated that the east/west road has Some logic even though It is low level development in the area. In answer to Coaaissloner Saunders, Mr, Olliff stated that he would.rather have votes taken separately on these roads, adding that the north/south road is needed, but in priorities, the east/west road ,. Page 28 - - .. --'-----'-' ,; t ,~. ""', ~ ,A ~ ¡.¡ 1 r JUNE 15, 1988 is fIrst. Co88i..IODer Saunders aoved, .econded by CoaaJ..ion.r a.... and carried 4/1, CCoaai..ioner Pi.tor OpPO8ed), that the ...t/we.t road be 1.Dcl11ded in the COIIprehen.1ve Plan. CoaaJ..ioner Saun4er. aoved, .eeonded by Co..J.sloner a.... and carried 3/2, cCoaaJ..Joner. Pi.tor and Gla.s oPPOsed), that the DOrtb/8Oath road be included In the Coaprehenslve Plan. Acting Coaaunity Development Administrator Olliff stated that this plan needed to address concurrency specifically where it dealt with tranaportation issues and the County Manager has a small Concurrency Coaalttee that wa. put tog~ther, including developers and statt, in order to co.e up with .08e concurrency language that might be Included into the plan that would help address Some of the continuing problems beyond the fir.t five year. of concurrency. He stated that the issue i. that transportation is outside of a developer's ability to be able to correct hi..elf, adding that other issueR like water, sewer, etc. can be built on-site to meet level of service standards it the County i I ¡ ¡ i t baa Dot aet thea. He noted that transportation cannot be handled that way.. It i. according to the County's transportation planning and whether or not a developer's development will be on a roadway that Is up to level of service standards. He stated that to try and address this, .taft has a concurrency recommepdatlon that specifically relates to transportation that offers a five year opportunity for concurrency, aoo( 115 FV.! 587 Page 29 , ~.. l' ~t ~~..._- .J :~ .. 115n'.f588 p ? JUNE 15, 1988 .¡ addIng that all Development Orders that Come through the process and If the County has a roadway in the fIve year plan or it Is part of the County'. budget or under contract for engineering, design or construc- tlon, then that Development Order can be issued. He stated that the County's concern 1. level of service and in order to address this, the County has stated that if the exp~cted Level of Service 18 "D", this policy would not allow projects to continue for any longer than two year. at a lower level of service or at Level of Service "E". He JndJcated that they are trYing to address development concerns and County concerns and he basically needs a consensus that the concept of thIs idea is something that the Board would like Staff to pursue and he ~111 C088 back in July with S08. language that will be Specific. eo..Js8ioner Saunders aoved, seconded by Co..lssloner aa..e and Carried un&n1aously, that the Traffic Circulation Eleaent be approved aDd the concurrtmcy stat...nt be approved conCeptually. BECRE&nOJf AJfD OPEX SPACE ELÐŒJfr Parks & Recreation Director Crawford stated that this plan repre- 8eDte the County's role in providing community park syste.. supported by a larger regional park system tor the provision of recreation and open .pace for the coaaunity. He noted that this element also recognizes and 'addresses the roles and responsibilities of other pro- vider. including the State, the City, Federal Government in the pri- vate .ector in approaching the recreational and leisure needs 1n Page 30 - .. .. ~. .f< "':. ~ ,), '~, ,. 'If/'- '.' . ';' 'í. 1 JUNE 15, 1988 I ! f . ¡ ! Collier County tor the Comprehensive Plan, He noted that the plan Is based on the community park system which i9 already in place with further developaent in Phase II of the ~xisting community parks as well as addressing a larger regional park which will serve .the County in the future. He noted that the plan has not changed since the last rwvl~ and Is supported by the various boards, Coaal..ioner Goodnight aoved, seconded by Co"1s.10ner Pi.tor and carried unaniaou.ly, th_t the Recreation and Open Space Eleaent be 8pj;o.towed. ÐRAnwm ~ Water Manageaent Director Boldt st~ted that the init1al efforts for this ele.ent involved the completion of an inventory of the dra1n.ge basins and the aajor facilities. adding that there has been 13 aajor basin identified which includes 311 miles of primary and f ¡ I ! f I secondary canals and 62 major water level control structures. He etated that the element itnelt includes estimates of the existing con- dltlone and capacities of each of these systems and the proposal tor necessary capital improvements. He stated that the original estimates tor the five year capital plan did not include areas from the Belle Meade Royal Pal. area, east of 951, and along U,S. 41 east of 9ðl, DOtIng that this 1s an area that is still subject to debate. He , reported that ther~ i. an overall comprehensive water management aaeter plan needed, adding that there are a number of plans In aoo( 115 Wi 58D Page 31 , .,. ;'; ~; .~. ....., f" '.. I I I r r ! ..115w.t500 .JUNE 15, 1988 existence but they are all fragmented and they do not totally answer the questions. He indicated that the master plan is presently funded and he hopes that it will be underway sometime later in the year, He stated that the 8ajor issue in the master plan is the level of service I ¡ ¡ I standards which will be difficult to quantify as the plan that now exi.ts indicates the level of service standards are existIng standards. He indicated that the master plan will set the level of servIce stan- dards and will lncorporate the calculated capacities for each of the systeas. He stated that his long-range goal is to upgrade all the systeas to a higher, more u~iform standard that would be basically a 25-year 3-day storm event, He noted that the Gap's include one major goal and five aaln objectives which have been previously discussed and approved by the CAC and the CCPC, Mr. tenneth trier, President of Park Shore Association, stated that .taff recommends not including the area one mile east of 951 in the urban area and he would Support that recommendation as it will be too costly to .upply the tacilities and service level. in this area .. ~n the next 20 years it does not appear that it will be needed. He .tated that it would require roads and drainage tacilitle8 a. well as other facilities, He indicated that the estimate tor the drainage facilities is Over $10 million for one mile east of 951 and the entire ba81n draInage requirements would be well in excess of $20 ailllon and there is already a shortfall with the infrastructure that wIll be Page 32 JUlfE 15, 1988 needed and this area would only ag~ravate the problem. In answer to Co~missicner Hasse, Mr, Boldt stated that the orlgi- nel ..ti83te tor the whole element w~~ $20 million and there is an additional 510 million tor this particular area which would aake a total of $30 .illion. He noted that this area consists of 50 to 50 8qU8r. ailes of drainage area and the main outlet facility i8 on the western edge and that .ajor tacility would have to be constructed, yet there is only one aile east ot 951 that is being included in the urban area. Be noted that the major facility would have to be put In to handle the whole area and it is not practical to do this. Mr. David Land stated that the CAC feels that since the Belle Meade Drainage District i~ an independent drainage district, a I I I ! ì I I I í ! .eparate level ot service standard could be applied so that this funding would not be needed at this time. He stated that if any deve- Joper wants to develop in that particular district, the wording could be stated so that the developer would have to provide a level of ser- vice that is appropriate to the County standards in other areas, but that the County i8 not required to do it, Mr. Bill Barton of Wilson, Miller, Barton, 5011 & Peek, Inc. stated that the $20 .illion is tor the entire Belle Heade Drainage Di8trict, auch of which lies further east than the one aile corridor that is beIng d18cus8ed. He noted that the one mile strip of land is basically going to cost $10 million and the cost effectiveness is not eoo< 115 F1'.í 501 Page 33 "; "" .v ~;. *¡' . .~. '~ t , 'r ... 115 pro( 592 . .,¡ '0 JUNE 15, 1985 a great deal different than the drainage tacilities ln District 6. He IndIcated that there would not be that much difference between the two It It was figured on a per unit cost. He noted that District 6 lies west of 951, south of Davis Blvd., and to the south approxiaately to 951 and U.S. 41 and this area has major works that must be done throughout the system in years to come and major dollars will be 8p4mt. He noted that there is a canal east of 951 that 1s virtually the full length of this district that is usable and if problems wIth drainage is to be discussed. then there is a great topic of discussion 188ediately west of 951 and north of Rattlesnake Hammock Raod. He noted that this area 1s le~s cost effective than the area one mIle .ut of 951. He stated that standards mandate that the floor eleva- tlons be built at an elevation equal to or greater than the 100 year .tora and the basic and substantial work will be done by developers and not by taxpayers in improving the properties, He stated that he does not see any ditterence between this area and the rest of the area that Is in the urban area. Co..issioner Pistor questioned if a transition area was created froa urban to rural and there was a different level ot service for that area, how would it etfect the drainage problems? Mr. Barton stated that this will be achieved by nature, adding that the levels of wetland areas that exist in that corridor are substantial and consequently, the level of development that wIll occur . ;: Page 34 ..,. ~. ~. qr.. .'" . '. ~. .. JUNE IS, 1988 In that one aile strip will be substant1ally less than it will be in aost other parts of the urban area because of the wetlands. He noted that wetlands will not be significantly altered in the development process and, therefore, the run-off will not be increased. He stated that he feels that the County i. golng to end up with what Coaaissioner Pistor is suggesting without changing anything in the Coaprehensive Plan, Co..issioner Saunders stated that it may be better at this point to siaply deal with the drainage issue and handle the one aile section during the Land Use Element, because whatever is done with that one aile section will necessitate changes in the Drainage Eleaent. He 8tated that he had previously mention~d looking into some type of interim designation for that area to show that it was between rural and urban and it was .entioned that this would create .ore problems than it was worth, but now it is being mentioned again and perhaps there 8hould be SOme direction given to staft to look into this aatter further. Mr. Barton stated that he agree. with Mr. Assaad as an interim ~ designation has been a dismissal tailure 1n Lee County, adding that he would hope that Collier County does not do the .... thing. He 8tated that he is suggesting that nature itself will cause the deve- 10paent within that one mile area to be less intense than it may be to the west of the area where there are less natural wetlands to deal aoo( 115 P1'.l 5D3 Page 35 :.¡ ... 115 w.t 594 .JUNE IS, 1388 wi th. Col. .John Beebe stated that he concurs with the thrust of Mr. KrIer's reaarks, adding that if there is not a need to spend this $10 aillion and there is a $50 million shortfall, then put that $10 aillion where it ia more needed. He noted that it this drainag~ basin proble. is addressed, it should be addressed in its entirety when the fund. are available, He stated that he understood that there m~y be a drainage tax of $2.50 per acre to fund the drainage problems of the entire County and this would be an inexpensive way to fund the problem and would not be a burden to pay. He stated that there could also be a general Obligation tax tclr flood control structures which would benefit the entire County, County Manager Dorrill stated that as this relates to a stormwater utility concept, it would be a user fee and pledged for revenue bonds Whether it is done on a p~r acre basis or on the amount of square footage of impervious area related to some standard that would then be I ¡ ( I I I ¡ ¡ I ¡ I developed, Col. Beebe stated that whatever the County decides, he would hope that Jt would not affect the County's flood insurance program. Co..i88ioner Saunders stated that there is an ordinance that deals with the construction seaward of the Coastal Construction Control Line and al80 an ordinance that deals with variances trom the Federal Eaergency Management Flood Elevation and the Board is very careful not L ,; \.: Page 35 : , ., '. , JUNE 1 ~ . :ja8 County's ability to get flood insurance or that would cause a~ïone's to approve construction or variances that would jeopardize the rates to go up. He stated that this is addressed in the ord1n~nces but not in this element. CAPITAL IMP'RO~ UU;lfT EL!)ŒJfT carried unaniaouaJy, that the Drainage EJ...nt be approved. Co8a1.s1oner Goodnight .oved, seconded by Co..is.ioner Pf3tor and june 10, 1988, meeting, aent reflects the Board's recommendation8 that were made dur1~? the a total of 51 public meetings on this element, adding that this e1e- Growth Management Director Fitzpatrick stated that there h~ve been jeet. totaling $2'°,703,000 within this time frame. Fi.cal Year 1988-89 through 1993-94 and contains a total of 143 pro- She noted that this element covers from VIce standards. PolIcy 1.4, adding that there are three difterent categories of ser- level of service 8tandards have been established which are found in She stated that bUildings, and the depend~nt fire districts which apply to the librarIes, jail, emergency medical services, other government that In Category "8", the standards have been established for federal roads which do not apply to the County budget. applyIng to the County budget with the exception of the state and parka which apply to the issuance of development orders as well as facllitie8 such as roads, water, sewer drainage, solid waste, and She noted that Category "A" includes standards for She indicated aoo( 115 ~n 505 Page 37 J. .t,~ .¡ t "" ----..-.-- ,( '. 0;, '. " " ~; . ,~ 1" .. 115w,{596 ... ¡" JUNE 1:', :J88 County's annual budget but do not relate to the issuance of Developaent Orders, She reported that Category "C" tacl11ti~~ ~re advi.ory only and they include stJndards for those tacil1ti<:" ','hich are Operated by state, federal and municipal governments, U:., i ndepen- dent tire districts, and prlvat~ organizations within the j'lr!~11c- tional boundaries of Collier County. She stated that within 'he eleaent there are three objectives that address public tacl1i~{ type standards and needs, the financ.1al feasibility of this plan, i'!n1 the provision for needed improvements, She indicated that the e1~~ent 8180 contains a schedule of ~rojects showing the expenditure~ by fiscal year tor th.18 pJanning period, add.1ng that it also in~¡u~es the iapleaentation programs to monitor the Capital Improvement Ele~ent and to outline the annual update which is required by state law. She stated that the element also includes the summary of the cost ot these projects and the restricted revenues by facility type, Mrs. FitzpatricK indicated that there is a rev.1sed Appendl~ "P", Which is the finance plan based on the Board's recommendations that were.aade la8t week, adding that w.1thin the finance plan, it .1s beIng recoaaended that 42% of the County wide one mill ad valore. tax be dedicated to the Cap.1tal Improvement Element projects, whIch wIll leave a shortfall over the next 6 years ot $50.9 million or St.) 8illion per year. She ind.1cated that the recommended revenues to fund the SðO.9 8illion is as follows: a doubling of the existing road 1 'I Page 38 - ..... --- .7t1JŒ 15, 1988 iapact fee which would generate $13.6 million over the 6 years; a new library iapact fee of approxiaately $172 per dwelling unit which would generate $2.. 8illion over the six years; the establishment of a park lapact fee of approxlaately $388 per residential dwelling unit whIch would establish $6.. aillion in new revenues over the next six years; and drainage utility bonds which would be paid for through the enact- aent of a storawater utility tee which would generate $27 million over the next 5 year. and will also Include the $10 million in projects for the Belle Heade area. She ~tated that the acreage fee was recalcu- lated and it would be ~3.85 per acre per year. She stated that the plan also call. for general oblIgation bonds whIch would be passed through a ref~rendu.; one would be for draInage for $5 8illion and the other would be $7 .illion for regIonal park land. She stated that this would give a projected shortfall of approxImately $9.5 million which would be a surplus within the road fundIng and would be used as a reserve for future road project. as they are added into the annual update with approxlaately a $1.6 .llllon per year surplus. She noted that the approach wIthIn the ele..nt i. to .et up a aanagement con- currency sy.te., whereas project. are programmed in order to elimInate the exi.ting deficiencIes wIthIn the .lx year time fra.. so that the County will have through Septeaber 30~ 1994 to elIminate the existIng , deficIencies. ..... ReC888: 10:00 A.M. - Reconvened: 10:16 P.M. ..... aoO( 115 'AG[ 597 Page .39 t:. ---...... '0-0 '__"_00 . .. 115,1'). 598 ~~ 1!rir ~" .:rt1JfE 15, 1988 Attorney Don Pickworth stated that with regards to the tax drainage utility bonds, he thought that the Board directed staff to come back with some specIfic reco..endations on this matter because there were a nuaber ot concerns expressed regarding the legality. He stated that this County is composed of a number of very distinct draInage basIns and 1n dealIng with this question this has to be looked at as well as the question of benefIts, intensities of use, and iapact of dIfferent properties. He indicated that there are areas that already have or are a part of an exIsting drainage system and have already paid for this. He stated that he would suggest that this itea be eli~inated at this tiae and reviewed at a later date, as there are too aany questions that have not been answered. Co..lssioner Glass stated that he does not believe that the $3.85 per acre fIgure can be incorporated into this element because there is not enough information available at thIs time. Mrs. Fitzpatrick stated that the $3.85 was based on one approach which was the simplest approach based on a County-wide tax, adding that there are other options; one would be to levy this fee on a basIn by basin basis once the water basIn. have been identifIed and the pro- jects needed within them through the iapleaentation of the master plan which will be next April. Co8a188Ioner Gl_8 aoved, _conð.ed by C088I88ioner Ba88e and carried QDanI80U8ly, that the dJ8CU88Ion regardIng the tax drainage Page 40 ..7tJ1fK 18, 1 9 8 8 utl11~ bonda be dl.cu..ed at a later date when the needed information i. available. Acting Community Development Administrator Olliff stated that the plan only has to identify the funding 80urce. Coamissioner Glass stated that the Board may not agree that this is the proper funding source which is why they want more information. County Manager Dorrlll stated that the best information that he would have at the f1nal transmittal meeting would be to incorporate into the Comprehensive Plan stating that this is a concept and is based on the aaount ot i.pervious area per lot to the extent that it contributes to a drainage preble. and then decide whether this should be County-wide or identifiel! with the districts sub-basins. He stated that with regards to legality, there are no problems. He noted that he will be prepared to identify the mechanisms for the 3uly meeting. Mr. William Jones, representative ot the Collier County BuIlders and Contractors Association, stated that he tried to analyze funding sources and he has some questions. He stated that it a permit is taken out on a $50,000 house this date, it would cost $1,000 and in the near future, there will be an increase of about 35' which will increase that permit another $350 and will cost a total of $1350 for that permit. He indicated that at the present time, there are existing lmpact fees of water at $900, sewer at $1,340, roads at $318 which 1s . total ot $2,558. He stated that if the new increases tor &00' 1151'1'",[599 Page 41 .. - ""^^-^' "',^,,", , 'OO( 115 F1',~ 6ûO J'tmE 15, 1988 libraries, roads, and parks were added, that building permit would be increased $878 which would be a total of $4,786 for a building permit on a $50,000 house. He noted that there are not many $50,000 houses in Collier County and there never will be when almost 10% of the cost is being paid for a permit and impact fees. He stated that if this 1ncrease is translated over a 20 year mortgage at a reasonable 10% interest, it comes to about $12,000. He stated that on a $60,000 house, the additional costs would amount to about 7.9% of the cost ot the house and if that was financed over a 20 year period, it would cost about $12,000. He stated that this affects the people that are needed like the teachers, the retired people, the policemen, the fire- men and the low-middle management people that run the businesses in the service areas in the community. He indicated that the road impact fees had a proposed :~crease of 100% tor a resident; this is $318 and if it is doubled it is $636 and tor a small businessman that would like to build a retail business that is a 60 x 120 toot building, it would cost approximately $23,000 In impact tees and it those fees are doubled, that sa~e small businessman would be paying $46,000 which is unrealistic. He noted that the high end of this tee i. not in propor- tion to the impact on the coaaunity, adding that some buelnesses that have paid the present fee are now having studies made and determining that there is not the same impact on the community that was initially charged and they are having their impact tees reduced. He stated that Page 42 JUNE 15, 1988 this is an indication that the impact fees are too high. He noted that the County's existing 1.00 mill levy for capital projects revenue was a good idea and it has been etfective, but what happens in the finance plan is that this 1.00 mill is being reduced down to 42' of one mill. He stated that the .2~ is the goal for the capital projects review and the other 58~ 19 to be used tor maintenance items that are not in the capital projects review, adding that there are concerns that when funds are set aside for Specitic use, they tend to be trans- ferred to other uses. He stated that he felt that the Board should be aware of these concerns, Hr. Tony Baltakis, Chairman of the CAC, stated that he concurs with Mr. Jones regarding a{fordable housing, adding that the Board is facing an issue where the higher the price of the home, the less the impact 1m the price of the home. He noted that if someone is purchasing a $200,000 home and has impact tees ot about $5,000-6,000 it will not aftect that person, but the person in the $50,000 is going to be drastically aftected. He stated that the CAC has some mis- givings with regards to using monies that were supposed to be used only tor capital improvement and putting those monies into funds that are designed as "Other". Mr. David Land, Vice Chairman of the CAC, stated that with regards to the recommendations of the Board, they are major deviations from , what the CAC has recommended. He indicated that the CAC operated on &OO( 115 Pl',! 601 Page 43 aoo( 115 PI'.( 602 JUNE 15, 1988 three basic principles when they came up with their recommendations, adding that the principles were pay-as-you-go; use existing funding sources betore new funding sources are adopted; and those that benefit in general should be those that pay. He noted that under the pay-as- you-go principle, if at all possible, the general obligation bonds should be avoided. He indicated that with regards to the use of existing funding sources, the CAC recommends that the one mill ad valorem capital improvement tax be utilized before going to another so~rce of funding. He reported that the third principle primarily addresses the drainage tax that was be1ng discussed, adding that the CAC feels that its recommendations, if they are adopted, will promote sound tiscal principles and there would also be a $3.7 million S\1rplus. He noted that this surplus is assuming that the $10 million doea not get spent in the Belle Meade drainage district and that the $9.~ million for the lower level of service on various roads does not get spent either. He noted that it there was a $3.7 million surplus, it could be used to eliminate the library impact fee or it could be used'initially to address some of the items that wl1l arise where there is no available funding. He concluded that he recommends very strongly that the Board of County Commissioners use the recommen- dations of the CAC. Mr. Ira Evans stated that he agrees with Mr. Land, adding that two years ago, 8/10ths ot a mill was set aside and levied sepa.ately tor Page 44 - - - .TUNE 1 S, 1988 caplta1 laproveaent projects, but it was not all used tor what it was intended. Co..issloner Saunders stated that the 8/10ths ot a mill was also designated tor capltal projects and it has always been used for capi- tal projects. County Manager Dorrill stated that this tax has been in place for a number of years, adding that this particular tax has been defined by the State to be capital improvements that have an expected lite in excess of 7 years and an initial cost in excess ot $25,000. He indl- cated that the money in the Capital Improvement Fund has been used for capital improvement projectr) and direct capital related administra- tion. Mr. Evans stated that he would suggest that the one mill tax be allocated to the Growth Management Plan by project and that the Fund 301 practice be reinstituted. He stated that the position of the CAC was that borrowing should be avoided if at all possible except for water and sewer assessment type projects. He stated that the Capital Improvement Program will be in complete disarray if it is allowed to become mixed with other County programs, it it is tunded by borrowing, and to a certain extent, there is an equivalent problem with impact fees, He noted that impact fees are collected with the issuance of a building permit but the facilities have to be there long in advance, He stated that he would suggest that the BCC take the recommendations &00'; 115plr.f f>D3 Page 45 !oo< 115 f1'.t ôO~ .JUNE 15, 1988 ot the CAC with regards to the flnance plan. He indicated that their plan would provide a sound basls for financing and if there is a shortfall, someone should look at what is in the program because one of the essentials is whether the County as a whole can aftord it. County Manager Dorrill stated that the CIP for the Growth Manage- aent Plan has the required major capital improvements, but there are other items that will have to be taken care of that have nothing to do with the Capital Improvement Element, like $600,000 to continue the be~ch renourlshment project; $5 million to pursue the acquisition ot adjacent lands to the government center; $1 million down payment on the purchase ot Lely Barefoot Beach; $500,000 for computer related 80ttware; and $150,000 tor the constructlon ot an alrcraft hangar. He stated that his proposal is that in addition to the Capital Improve- Rent Element, money be reserved within the one mill and continue to apply it toward these other related projects. Commissioner Saunders stated that to do what Mr. Evans is suggesting, it would result in a 15% or 16% increase in the level of taxation plus the normal increase of 5% of 8% whlch would be a total of 22% or 24% increase in ad valorem taxes to fund all this, adding that he would not vote tor that much of an Increase. He noted that if the taxpayers do not pay this type ot increase, then there has to be soae other revenue sources which are fairly limited but they include 1.pact fees, user fees, etc, Page 46 JUNE 1 5, 1988 County Manager Dorrill stated that his proposal to the Board does not include any additional borrowing at all unless it io approved by the voters at the polls, associated with general obligation debt, but that cannot be incurred by the County Commission unless there Is an affirmative vote by the affected voters. He noted that if the voters voted thls down, then his advlse to the Board would be a corresponding decrease in those levels of services which would specifically relate to swiaaing pools, gymnasium, and types of facilities that are really lclng on the cake tacilities. Mrs. Majorle Joder stated that the CAC recommended 1-1/2 years ago that the Capital I.provement Plan should be funded with a pay-as-you- go plan and after people r~signed from the CAC and new people were appointed, the Capital Improvement Element was brought up again and the decision was still pay-as-you-go. She noted that it being rejected by the Board and she finds this very objectionable. She indicated that she advocates balanced programs, reasonable impact fees, and sales tax. She noted that the people want to run a balanced funding program without obligation bonds excepts for sewer and water facilities. Coœmissioner Saunders stated that the CAC took a vote on the question of the one cent local option sales tax and voted to recommend that it be taken otf the ballot and that was the recommendation that was made to the Board ot County Commissloners. aoo( 115 Pl'.[ 605 Page 47 'OQ( 115 w~ GD6 JUNE 15, 1988 Hr. Fred Sullivan, President of Coquina Sands Association, stated that he agrees with Hrs. Joder and Mr. Land and the Board should listen to the taxpayer and the voice of the people, He stated that .any people of the area live on fixed incomes and they are being threatened by these proposals because they do not understand what is going on, adding that he would suggest using the recommendation of the CAG as they cnd up with a surplus and not a deficlt. He noted that soae of the items in the Capital Improvement Plan could be cut back some to reasonableness, Mr. R. A. Stiers, representing the Marco Island Taxpayers Association, stated that his position is pay-as-you-go as he is not Interested in general obligation bonds and the expenditures should be limited to what the taxpayers could afford to pay. Commissioner Saunders stated that he agrees with pay-as-you-go in aost instances, but if there is a structure that has a 30 year useful 11te and you pay-as-you-go, that means the taxpayers in year one pay for the 30 year structure but there will be people moving into the County for the next 29 years that will be using It and one ot the advantages in bonding some types of projects is that people that move in and use that facility will be paying for part of the capital co~t ot it, He stated that to exclude bonding altogether is inappropriate, Col. John Beebe stated that the fundlng proposals made by the County Manager are quite appropriate and have been well thought out Page 48 JUNE 15, 1988 and considered. He stated that most of the public wants a satisfac- tory quality of life, fair taxes, reasonable adequate facilities and amenities that are necessary to a good community, adding that he does not want to see a decline in the quallty of life in the Naples area. He indlcated that he agrees wlth Commissioner Saunders, adding that there are occaslons when general obligation bonds are the best way to go and the most appropriate way to go so that they are paid for by the aany people that will use the facility rather than having drastic increases in the ad valorem property taxes. Mr. Lee Nichols, representing the Naples Area Board of Realtors, stated that on behalf of the Board of Realtors, they are concerned about the proposed sources of funding for the Capital Improvement Element and how it will affe~t the private property rights, atfordable housing and attordability of housing. He stated that they support the CAC and the Collier County öuilders and Contractors Association posi- tlon. Commissioner Saunders stated that statt has been directed to come up with a policy that would reduce or eliminate impact fees for legi- tiaate low to moderate income housing, if it is legal, Mr, Lyle Richardson, City of Naples Councllman, stated that about 3 or 4 years ago, the Intrastructure Committee determined that 2 mills I were needed to do ~he complete catch-u~ job in Collier County tor the level ot service that is needed. He indicated that there is one mill &OO( 115 Pl'.t GO? Page 49 '00( 115,.,.1. 608 JUNE 15, 1988 in the tax base and a variety of ways are being proposed to obtain the additional mill, adding that he is not certaln that the impact fees that are proposed are allowable under the plan. He noted that impact tees are tor those things caused by growth. He stated that no matter how it i. done, Collier County is going to need overall, 2 mills, County Manager Dorrill stated that he would dltfer wlth regards to the statement made by Mr, Richardson on impact fees, adding that none of the i.pact tee money is being proposed for any existing deticiency related projects. He noted that it does relate to a 6th and 7th com- .unity park as well as expansion in the library system wlth regards to tuture population growth and it will only be used for those portions ot road related improvement~ that deals with population increases in the future because the County is prevented by law from applying impact fee aoney to existing deticlencies. Cozaissioner Pistor stated that he is not sure if what is being recoamended should be adopted as it includes an Increase in impact tees and it is not definitely known it all these impact fees are legal. He stated that the dralnage fee has already been resolved. He stated that he teels that there is not enough facts available at this time to make a recommendation. Coaaissioner Saunders stated that he likes the funding mechanism that the statt has come up with in terms of investigating new sources ot revenue through impact fees, adding that he does not agree with Page 50 '- - - - JUNE 15, 1988 doublin~ the lapact tee or road. but there should be some increase. He stated that he feels that there will be some projects in the CIE that can be eliminated over the next few months, adding that he teels that some of the shortfall can be reduced with the current revenues. ~..ioß8r Saunders aoved, .eeonded by Co..is.ioner Haa.e, that the CIK be approved a. defined by statt with the fundIng aechani...a reeoaaended by staff, and that the reduction of the shortfall be looked into. Coamissloner Goodni~ht stated that she would vote for the motion with the understanding that the Board is strictly investigating the impact fees and not adopting them at this time. Coaaissioner Pistor stated that the $3.85 per acre drainage fee is not belng adopted and questioned what source ot revenue is being adop- ted? Commissioner Saunders stated that the effect of the motion Is to direct staff to review the stormwater drainage user fee system, to come back with some impact tee ordinances for evaluation, to take a look at what projects would be funded through a G.O. bond issue, and to look at reducing the shorttall by eliminating some of the projects. Commissioner Glass stated that if ~he CIP Is raised to two mills that would settle the entire matter. Commissioner Saunders stated that this would be a 25' increase in the ad valorem taxes. aoo( JLjl~Pl~\f)(Jf) Page 51 ,00( 115n'.! G10 JUNE 1 5, 1988 Actin~ Community Development Administrator Ollitt stated that this motion is simply tor the mechanisms that are associated with each of the capital projects and they all have to be brought back for indivi- dual motions, votes, and public hearings'. He stated that this is just a conceptual plan and the Board is indlcating that they agree with the funding Qechanisms but they still want to see the detail and vote turther on theIR, Upon call for the queatlon, the aotion carried unanimou81y. ..... Commissioner Glass stated that there are 19 speakers reglstered for the Future Land Use Ele~ent and questioned if the BCC wanted to continue with the meetjng or continue it to another night, with the general consensus being to continue the meeting to July 20, 1988, at 7;00 P.M. at which time the Future Land Use Element wl11 be heard along with the Conservation Element and the Coastal Management Element as well as the transmittal hearing. Page ô2 - - - JUNE 1 5, 19 a 8 ... There being no further business tor the Good of the County, the .eetln~ was recessed by Order of the Chalr - Time: 11:35 P..M, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS/ BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS CONTROL c2-d d.- ~ ARNOLD LEE GLASS, CHAIRMAN ATTEST JAKES C. GILES, CLERK 4 / - - . . ~ ~- .p~d-/ These minutes approved by the Board . ..;.:;-- as presented ~ or as corrected on ~~o::.(7.Pr &OO( 115 Pl'.t 611 Page 53 /'