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Naples, Florida, September 7, 1988
LET IT 8E REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zonina
Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, 8et on this dale at 7:00 P.M. in BUDGET SESSIOK in Building
"F- of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
V I CE -cHA I RHt\N :
Burt L. Saunders
Anne Goodnight
John A. Pistor
Arnold Lee Glass
Max A. Hasse
ALSO PRESENT: Maureen Kenyon, Deputy Clerk; Neil Dorrill, County
Manager; Lori Zalka, Budget Director; Stan Litsinger and Jennifer
Pike, Budget Analysts; Ken Cuyler, County Attorney; Tom Crandall,
Utilities Administrator; George Archibald, Public Works Administrator:
Toa Olliff, Acting Community Development Administrator; Jane
Fitzpatrick, Growth Management Director; Dave Pettrow, Development
Services Director; Leo Ochs, Human Resources Administrator; Mike
McNees, Utilities Administration Director; Wanda Jones, Housing and
Urban Development Director; Kevin O'Donnell, Public Services
Ad.inlstrator; and Charles Gauthier, Chief Long-Range Planner.
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O.,£àYIB'W OF THB BUDGET AIm TAXES
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Dally News on
September 4, 1988, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with
the Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider the Proposed
Tentative Budget for Fiscal Year 1988-89.
Budget Director Zalka stated that the first section of the budget
book shows summaries of the budget as It now stands and the back of
the budget book is the section where the agenda is for this public
hearing as well as the budget resolution which list all the changes
that have been made to the tentative budget.
She stated that the
overall budget is up 9.4\ or $210 million and in order to fund that
budget there is a County-wide tax rate going up 9.9\ which is 4.6
.i11s .
She noted that there are also 39 MSTD's which are in the unin-
corporated area and when all those are added up, there is an aggregat~
of 5.3 mIlls or 9\.
She stated that this means that everyone in the
county pays
cunty-wide taxes and then those people in the HSTD's also
pay up to an average of 5.3 mills for county services.
She stated
that the tax notice also includes the City taxes if one lives in the
City boundaries, the School Board taxes and other districts.
She
indicated that the 9.9\ tax increase is being used to fund new posi-
tions and new services, adding that there are 39 new positions in the
Sheriff's Department, which includes 17 positions for the jail and 11
officers for road patrol and investigations as well as other posi-
lions.
She noted that this also provides funds for salary increases
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for the Sheriff's Department and other County departments.
She noted
that there is also an increase fer level of services for Parks and
Recreation, Libraries, EMS, and the Clerk of Court9.
She noted that
the budget also includes 19 new positions for the Utilities Departmenl
which is funded by water and sewer rates and 22 new positions in thq
Community Development Fund which will be funded by a 3S¡ increase in
building permit fees.
PUBLIC OOKKERTs 'QUESTIONS
Mr. Ira Evans, Secretary of the Marco Island Taxpayers
Association, stated that the taxes are too much and they are going up
too fast, adding that taxes have been going up at a rate of lOt or
better for over 30 years and somehow this County must learn to live
within the increase generated by increased assessable values.
He
referred to Page E-12 in the budget book which is the Facilities
C~nstruction Fund 301, noting that it provides an amount for beach
renourishment for a County study.
He stated that Marco Island was
assured that they would be excluded frOll that tax, but on the basis
of this budget, it is not so, adding that he would urge that Marco
Island be excluded from the tax for that purpose.
Commissioner Saunders stated that Marco Island was not to be
charged additionally for beach renourishment in the main part of the
County and questioned if that is being done in this fund, to which
Budget Director Zalka stated that in the capital funds, a County-wid~
millage rate of I mill is being used for all the capital projects
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whIch does include Marco Island, adding that the $169,000 is collecten
on a County-wide basis.
COIIØissioner Saunders stated that it is his opinion that Marco
Island should not be taxed twice for this.
Budget Director Zalka stated that she is not sure how this could
be done unless another district is created that would exclude Marco
Island.
Commissioner Saunders stated that between now and the final budge~
hearing, the Budget Office will attempt to deal with this issue in-
house and see if there is some way to resolve this matter.
He noted
that the consensus of the Board is to have Staff work this out and
report back to the Board.
County Manager Dorri1l stated that his concern is that while every
other property in the County will pay for the various permitting or
design related cost next year for the beach renourishment project
which has been determined to be a County-wide benefit, he would ask
for time to develop a staff report on this matter before Marco Island
is excluded from this tax.
Co.missioner Saunders stated that Staff will look at this matter
in the next two weeks, adding that he would like Mr. Evans to be
involved in this matter.
Mr. Evans statcd that Marco Island has alrcady paid for the study
of the Marco Island Beach and the engineering.
He noted that another
QUestion he has is on Page F-l5, which is the Marco Island Water and
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Sewer District that proposes an 11\ increase in the sewer collection
fees for rates charged on the County system on Marco Island.
He
stated that this increase has not been justified or evaluated and
there has not been a public hearing on this matter and he wouJd
suggest that th;~ be taken out of the budget until such time as ther~
is justification and a public hearing.
Commissioner Pistor stated that the overall budget for that item
shows a 59.7\ decrease and the 11\ is there for a possible rate
increase, but as far as the taxes are concerned this is not an
increase.
He noted that the water and sewer district is not in the...rI
valorem tax fund, adding that it is a fee collected on your bill if
and when such an increase is approved.
COIIIIIIi8sioner Saunders stated that a public hearing will be held on
this _atter and there will be justification presented on the issue al
such a time.
Mrs. Alberta Peacock of North Naples stated that she came to
Florida because she thought that she could afford to live here, but
the taxes keep going up and she feels that the Developers should be
contributing more to help pay for the schools so that the average per
sons does not pay such a high amount in school taxes.
She stated thl'll
when the taxes keep going up, it keeps putting more of a burden on th..
people with fixed income.
She stated that new people arriving to th~
area should also pay their share instead of taking it out on the
people that have lived here for years.
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Mr. George Keller, President of Collier County Civic Federation,
stated that when he was at the meeting in July, he was told that the
increase for administralion would be held to 6\ but now the property
taxes will be increased to lO\.
He stated that he knows that the
Sheriff's Department will cost more to run, but the general governmenl
is increasing by 15\ and this seems like a big increase.
He stated
that if growth pays for growth the tax rate should not be goIng up.
He noted that within five years, a lot of people are going to have a
difficult time living here.
He indIcated that he would hope that the
Board of County Commissioners would go over these figures very care-
fully and see if some of the items can be cut somewhat to reduce the
ad valorem tax increase to 6\ or lower.
He stated that he feels that
this could be done, noting that most of the taxpayers in this County
are highly stressed trying to meet their financial obligations and th~
Board of County Commissioners should do everything possible to keep
taxes down.
Mr. Joseph Brodrick of 3343 BInnacle Drive stated that the budget
calls for a 9-1/2\ salary increase which he does not feel is
just.if ied.
He indicated that the Sheriff's Departmenl is showing a
12-1/2\ salary increase, adding that he feels the only people
justified in receiving that increase is the 125 road patrol deputies.
County Manager Dorrill explained the new pay plan and how it would
work, noting that the salary increase is 7-1/2\ if the employee is
deserving, not 9-l/2\.
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Mr. Thorne Hollister of Chokoloskee stated that he is requesting
that the taxes not be raised in Chokoloskee as services are not being
received for the taxes that they are paying.
He noted that the roads
are extr~ly bad and a cold patch is simply put down, but a week
later it falls out.
He noted that the commercial property that he
owns is being taxed higher and higher each year, but it is becoming
more worthless each year.
He noted that he is a commercial fisherman
and his income goes down every year, but the taxes go up.
COIIIIissioner Pistor stated that if the value of the property is
contInually going down, but the taxes keep going up, then Mr.
Hollister should be talking to the Property Appraiser's office about
this Jlðtter.
Mrs. Nancy Hollister of Choko1oskee stated that the school taxes
are extreøely high and both her and her husband are working to pay
taxes, but at the rate the taxes are increasing, she will not be able
to live in this County in another ten years.
Commissioner Sðunders stated that with regards to the school
taxes, this is something that should be brought up at one of the
School Board's public hearings.
Mr. Gary McMillin of Chokoloskee stated that his property taxes
were increased from $700 to $l,lOO and the property where his boats al'
increased from $1,100 to $2,000.
Budget Director Zalka stated that it sounds like there was an
assessment change and the Property Appraiser's office should be con-
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tacteð on this .etter.
Mrs. Pat Pilcher of Seabreeze Avenue stated that she is opposed t"
any Wiggins Pass MSTU, adding that the people that want Wiggins Pass
dredged are the ones that should pay for it.
She stated that she
lives on a fixed income and cannot afford to pay such a tax.
She
indicated that this should be done by a referendum so that all the
people In the area will have a right to vote on the matter.
County Manager Dorrill stated that 7S\ of all taxing districts
have been created because of petitions received and public hearings
held.
He noted that it is rare when such a matter goes to referendum,
but based on the discussion of this project and the Marco Island pro-
ject, the Board of County Commissioners may want future requests to go
to referendum.
She stated that letters have been sent to the resi-
dents asking whether they are in favor of this project or not,
but some residents are receiving numerous letters which is a waste of
taxpayers' money.
County Manager Dorrill stated that the letter was sent by his
office and was prepared by him, adding that he has relied on the
Property Appraiser for the mailing list of all eligible properties in
the district.
He noted that when they receive the letters back, they
will attempt to purge duplicate property ownership.
CO8missioner Saunders stated that when this hearing came before
the Board, the County Attorney was directed to meet with the advisory
board on this matter, adding that when the results of the question-
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naire are determined, the Board will again hear the matter, but
nothing is going to be resolved until lhat time.
Mr. Duane McMillin of Chokoloskee stated that he is against land
taxes being increased, adding that his taxes were increased almost
100', but the land has not gone up in value that much.
CO8IIissioner Saunders stated that the people in Chokoloskee that
have received these type of increases in their tax bill should contßcl
the Property Appraiser's office and file a tax petition in order to
be heard in front of the Property Appraisal Adjustment Board, noting
that the deadline for filing such a petition is September 13,1988.
Ms. Cohiss Balkun of Choko10skee stated that the taxes are too
high and the roads are bad, noting that the school grounds are not
kept up either.
She stated that she is not receiving much for the
taxes that she is paying and her taxes have gone up 25'.
COIIIIissioner Goodnight stated that all the roads in Chokoloskee
were paved last year and if there is a County road that needs to be
brought up to standards, she will be sure that it is done if the
people of Chokoloskee will contact her.
Ms. Mary Jane Gay indicated that she lives near Corkscrew
Sanctuary and praised the Public Works Department for their fine job
that they are doing on the roads.
She stated that she does not have
any objection to the tax increase by the County, noting that her con-
cern is with the school taxes.
She noted that lhe Sheriff's
Deparl8ent is doing a fine job also, but she does have a problem with
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She noted that she has
contacted various departments to have someone enforce the noise ordi-
nance but does not get any results.
She indicated that she hopes thaI
all people pay their fair share of taxes.
Mrs. Viola Barclay stated that she agrees with Ms. Pilcher with
regards to the Wiggins Pass HSTU, adding that there has been a major
expense involved with this mailing which is a waste of time and tax-
payer8'money.
Mrs. Evelyn Lawmaster, Seabreeze Avenue, stated that owners on
Vanderbilt beachfront are opposing their taxes compared to the owners
on Gordon Drive.
She noted that there is a difference of 40\
assessment and the values do not compare to one another at all.
Com.i8sioner Saunders stated that this is an issue that should be
taken up with the Properly Appraiser's office.
Mrs. Gay stated that she thinks that the County is doing an
outstanding job and trying to hold the taxes down as much as possible.
REBOLO'rIOK 88-207 ADOPTIKG THB FY 88-89 AKE1mED TENTATIVE Bt1DCET -
ADO FrED
Budget Director Zalka stated that in the back of the Book of
Changes is a lisl of all the changes that have been made to the ten-
tative budget and now is the time for the Board to consider if any
further changes are needed.
She stated that the next step is to adop'
a resolution to adopt the ame..ded tentative budget.
She noted that
this budget will be presented to the public on September 22, 1988, at
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She stated an ad will be printed in the newspaper a few
days before the hearing which will detail the budget based on amend-
ment8 that the Board of County CO8IIis8ioners has made.
She noted thn'
the final decision on the
budget and taxes will be on September 22,
1988.
co.ai..ioner Pistor moved, .econded by Commis.ioner Has.e and
carried unanimously, that Resolution 88-207 adopting the FY 88-89
88eDd84 tentative budget be adopted.
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PROPOSED HILL1\GE RATE AND PERCENT INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES J\NNOUJ'ICF.I
AND FINJ>.L PUBLIC HEARING DATE SET FOR SEPTEMBER 22, 1988 AT 7:00 "'.11.
Budget Director Zalka stated that the proposed County-wide.: millaq.
rate is 4.6157 mills which is a 9.9~ increase, adding that the pro-
posed aggregate millage rate is 5.3228 mills which is a 9% increase,
Commissioner Saunders stated that the deadl inc for filing tax
petitions is September 13, 1988 and the fina] public hearing for the
budget is September 22, 1988.
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There being no further business for the Good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by Order of the Chair - Time:
8:25 P.M.
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