PTAC Minutes 12/19/2017 MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING
December 19, 2017 Naples, Florida,
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Public Transit Advisory Committee in and for
the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 3:15
P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at Administrative Building "F", Suite 501, Collier
County Government Complex Naples, Florida with the following members
present:
Chairman: Mr. John DiMarco, II
Vice Chairman: Mr. Arthur Dobberstein
Mr. Dylan Michael Vogel
Mr. Richard Duggan
ALSO PRESENT:
Ms. Michelle Arnold, Director, Public Transit and Neighborhood Enhancement
Mr. Omar De Leon, Senior Planner, Public Transit and Neighborhood Enhancement
Ms. Michele Mosca, AICP, Principal Planner, Transportation Planning Staff
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Call to Order
Chairman DiMarco called the meeting to order at 3:15 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
Mr. Duggan entered a motion to approve the December 19, 2017 meeting agenda. Mr.
Dobberstein seconded the motion. All were in favor. The motion was carried
unanimously.
IV. Approval of Minutes
October 17, 2017 meeting minutes
Mr. DiMarco entered a motion to approve the October 17, 2017 meeting minutes. Mr.
Duggan seconded the motion. All were in favor. The motion was carried unanimously.
V. Committee Action
VI. Reports and Presentations
a. Transportation Elements Policies
Ms. Arnold introduced Ms. Michele Mosca, Principal Planner, Transportation Planning
Staff, to the Advisory Committee. Ms. Mosca had previously requested input from the
Advisory Committee with regard to the comprehensive planning process being
undertaken to the Transportation Elements Policies. Ms. Mosca reported that there are
presently four study areas ongoing throughout the county, with the community planning
staff addressing transportation issues in these different areas.
Ms. Mosca shared a draft copy of the multi-modal policies with the committee, which
showed existing transporation policies, elements previously reviewed by the Advisory
Committee, as well as new multi-modal policies which have recently been added. The
final draft will undergo internal staff review, public review, as well as additional review
by the Advisory Committee. A request for recommendation will be made of the County
Attorney's office with regard to the use of the verbiage "will"versus "shall" within the
policies document, and Ms. Mosca will share this recommendation with the Advisory
Committee. Ms. Mosca stated her objective was to incorporate multi-modal policies into
the draft, as well as to streamline the elements by combining like elements under a single
objective, resulting in five total objectives on the present draft.
A discussion of the elements of the draft ensued, as follows:
Existing Policies:
Policy 1.1.12: Mr. Dobberstein requested clarification with regard to the verbiage,
"shoulder sufficient for pull offs" and whether this included a bus shelter, or just an area
for the bus to pull into, off of the main roadway.
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Per Ms. Arnold, this verbiage does not typically include a bus shelter,but refers to an
area for the bus to pull into, out of the flow of traffic,providing a safety element as well.
Unofficial pull off areas exist throughout the county at the beginning of turn lanes, to
allow for motor vehicles to go around the stopped bus. Ms. Arnold suggested adding"bus
stops and shelters"prior to "shoulder sufficient for pull offs"verbiage. Mr. De Leon
clarified that having a shelter at a bus stop does not ensure ADA compliance.
Policy 1.1.3.3: Mr. Dobberstein pointed out that no mention of sidewalk
interconnectivity with the bus stop is made. Ms. Mosca stated that this particular policy
is making reference to the Comprehensive Pathways Plan with regard to pedestrians and
bicyclists,to ensure a continuous pathway, with no gaps. Ms. Mosca stated that transit
related verbiage is included elsewhere in the document, specificially Policy 2.1.1.1. Mr.
Dobberstein recommended that in each instance throughout the document in which
connectivity for pedestrians and/or bicyclists is mentioned,that connectivity to bus stops,
shelters, and turnouts be included as well, if applicable.
It was also pointed out that a recent change was made to the name of the Comprehensive
Pathways Plan, expected to be adopted in June 2018,which will be"Comprehensive
Pathways Plan—Bicycle and Pedestrian Master Plan."
Policy 1.1.5.3
Per Ms. Mosca,just as a Traffic Impact Statement(TIS) is required to be submitted with
all development proposals, a Mobility Analysis requirement is being suggested as well,
the criteria of which has yet to be determined.
Policy 2.1.1
Mr. Dobberstein requested clarification of the intent of this policy. Ms. Mosca stated that
for the purposes of evaluating the viability of a rapid transit corridor for High Occupancy
Vehicles (HOV) and/or buses, it is important for an existing policy to be in place.
Policy 2.1.1.2
Mr. Dobberstein suggested that the verbiage"public transit"be added to this policy to
encourage employers to assist with the reduction of motor vehicles on the road. Ms.
Arnold was in agreement with this suggestion and mentioned that a corporate discount
incentive is presently offered to employers who meet specific parameters with regard to
number of employees.
Policies 2.1.1.3/2.1.3.2
Mr. Dobberstein recommended more detailed verbiage regarding the improvement of
services for the transportation disadvantaged. Ms. Mosca stated that policies are
sometimes written generally,with more specific language entered later under Land
Development Code guidance. Ms. Arnold pointed out the necessity for shared
responsibility with developers in servicing the needs of specific communities by
developers providing an appropriate number of vehicles and qualified drivers for that
community's use.
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Policy 3.1.1.5 (b) Residential developments
Ms. Arnold suggested the verbiage be modified to state "providing transit shelters or
amenities within and/or adjacent to the development", as buses are prohibited from
entering a housing development. Further discussion was had regarding DOT
modification of guardrails to allow for bus stop access, such as adjacent to Isles of Capri,
as well as at Airport Road/Vanderbilt Road.
Policy 3.1.1.5 (c), (g) Commercial developments
Discussion was had with regard to developers/employers offering specific incentives for
public transit ridership. Ms. Arnold favored the use of general language, stating specific
language regarding bus passes would be limiting with regard to other potential incentives
which may also be considered.
Policy 3.1.3
Mr. Dobberstein questioned whether"transit" should be added to the verbiage of this
policy. Ms. Mosca clarified that this policy is existing language specific to the
Neighborhood Traffic Management Program(NTMP), detailing what is allowable with
regard to traffic in certain areas. Ms. Arnold suggested that a separate policy be drafted
specifically with regard to transit as a means for potential reduction of traffic congestion.
Under this topic, Mr. Dobberstein questioned whether the term "transit shelter" should be
used throughout the document, as opposed to "transit stop." Ms. Arnold pointed out that
the school district does not provide bus shelters; therefore, there should be no public
confusion as to the verbiage used. It was the general consensus of the Advisory
Committee to use the term"transit stop"throughout the document.
New Policies Proposed:
Policies 1.1.2 / 1.1.2.1
Mr. Dobberstein recommended the policy be rewritten to include paratransit services.
Ms. Arnold suggested the verbiage be modified to "Prioritize funding of improvements
that increase the availability,frequency, duration and reliability of public transit services
within the County."
Policy 1.1.3.1
Mr. Dobberstein questioned whether canals and waterways should be included in the
verbiage as a means of multi-modal transporation. Ms. Mosca will investigate the
feasibility of the inclusion of this language.
Policies 3.1.3.4/5.1.3
Ms. Mosca will consider expansion of the language to address issues related to
neighborhood through traffic.
Ms. Mosca stated she will likely be adding policies as a result of the ongoing studies
being conducted throughout the county.
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b. CAT Performance Measures
Mr. De Leon reviewed the 2017 Ridership Performance Measures report. While some
months reflected steady performance in comparison to the previous year, other months
reflected a decline in ridership. Specifically, September ridership was significantly lower
following Hurricane Irma, with regular service suspended almost one week, coupled with
community and work related challenges. Various agencies are conducting studies to
determine the causes for the reduction in ridership, as well as ways to mitigate the
decline. Mr. Dobberstein suggested perhaps ride sharing services such as Lyft and Uber
have contributed to the decline in transit ridership. Mr. De Leon stated that obtaining
local data tracking is difficult within these organizations, as only large scale useage data
has been made available. It was felt this could be part of the conversation with Uber and
Lyft representatives at a future Advisory Committee meeting. Ms. Arnold felt a potential
partnership with the ride sharing services may be beneficial, both as a supplement to the
fixed route service, as well as for paratransit services. In response to Mr. Vogel's
inquiry as to how ride sharing services would be able to meet ADA requirements, Mr. De
Leon replied that Uber has begun purchasing and providing ADA modified vehicles for
their drivers.
It was noted that a certificate of appreciation was presented by Ms. Arnold and
Commissioner Taylor to Collier Area Transit after prompt restoration of service
following the hurricane
VII. Member Comments
Mr. Dobberstein requested clarification with regard to the possibility for"door to door"
bus service on Marco Island and the potential for cost sharing with the City of Marco
Island with this program. Ms. Arnold stated that this concept is presently being explored
further and that there has yet to be any discussion with the City of Marco on this topic at
the present time.
Mr. Dobberstein inquired as to whether representatives of Uber and Lyft are planned to
be present at a future meeting. Mr. De Leon stated that preliminary inquires have been
made to each organization to determine if a representative may attend a future Public
Transit Advisory Committee meeting in the near future.
Mr. Dobberstein requested clarification with regard to existing bus stops which may
provide easy access to Lowes at the corner of U.S. 41 and Coller Boulevard. Mr. De
Leon stated that buses do presently stop adjacent to the 7-11 in front of the Lowes
parking lot,which is a sheltered bus stop; however, a bus may not enter the actual
parking lot.
Mr. De Leon reported that a fare study was currently being conducted, with associated
public meetings.
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Mr. De Leon also stated that a walkability study is being conducted in Golden Gate City,
also with public meetings scheduled. A flier was made available to Advisory Committee
members for review if so desired.
Ms. Arnold reported that the beach route is.scheduled to begin on December 29, 2017.
VIII. Public Comments
No members of the public were present for comment.
IX. Next Meeting Date—January 16,2017
X. Adjournment
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned
by order of the chair at 4:30 p.m.
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John DiMarco, Chairman
These minutes approved by the Board/Committee on as presented
or as amended .