Agenda 03/11/2014 Item # 10A3/11/2014 10.A.
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners direct the County Attorney
to advertise a bearing to rescind Ordinance 85-02 and to return with a new Ordinance
establishing a funding source to fund seawall repair and/or replacements community
wide.
OBJECTIVE: To remove Ordinance 85 -02 which cannot be enforced with direction by the
BCC to fund seawall repair through the MSBU process as determined necessary and to
instead establish a funding mechanism and process for any Collier County community or
neighborhood to seek advance funding to replace or repair seawalls.
CONSIDERATIONS: On January 14, 2014, the Board of County Commissioners approved
Ordinance 2013 -70 establishing an MSBU to fund seawall repair or replacement for a private,
gated community La Peninsula. On February 11, 2014, an Executive Summary to rescind the
creation of Ordinance 2013 -70 failed maintaining the establishment of a funding source for La
Peninsula to pay for the repair of or replacement of its seawall.
During the BCC discussion on February 11, 2014, Commissioner Tom Henning brought forth
Ordinance 85 -02 for consideration. A County Commissioner stated, "... going back to 1985,
made the determination that seawalls do serve a Primary Public Purpose, and its enumerated in
that ordinance, and that ordinance, as you know, as a matter of law, is deemed to be valid until
and unless its overturned by a court of law."
Rather Ordinance 85 -02 established technical criteria for seawall assessments and enforcement
authority for Code Enforcement including fines. Ordinance 85 -02 states, "WHEREAS,
individual property owners are presently responsible for maintenance, repair and replacement of
seawalls and revetments along their property; and WHEREAS, there presently exists a threat to
public health, safety and welfare because of the failure of some individual property owners to
maintain, repair, or replace their failed seawalls or revetments," and continues by placing
responsibility of seawalls on property owners including fines of $250.00 Dailey.
With the adoption of Ordinance 2013 -70, Ordinance 85 -02 is no longer enforceable as 2013-
70 establishes a new process for handling seawall repairs. 2013 -70, by precedence,
establishes Collier County as the funding source through special taxing districts for seawall
repairs and replacements.
Therefore, Ordinance 85 -02 should be rescinded, and the County Attorney must advertise to
create a new ordinance to establish a funding source for making seawall repair and
replacement funding available to all including municipalities' property owners.
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County staff would then need to inspect and asses all seawalls in Collier. County, both
incorporated and unincorporated areas, to determine immediate needs for seawall repairs and
replacements and come forth with funding requests.
FISCAL DdPACT: Potential exposure County -wide for repair and replacement of seawall
structures based upon 184 total_ miles of shoreline protection is $1,626,324,500. This figure
assumes an approximate cost of $1,674 per foot based upon costs know from engineering
reports associated with the La Peninsula project. Isolated to the unincorporated area of the
county, approximately 64.25 miles of shoreline protection exists. At $1,674 per foot, the
potential repair and replacement exposure within the unincorporated area is $567,887,800.
LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS: This item has been reviewed by the County Attorney, is
approved as to form and legality, and requires majority vote for approval. -JAK
RECOMMENDATION: Consider that the Board of County Commissioners direct the
County Attorney to advertise a hearing to rescind Ordinance 85 -02 and to return with a new
Ordinance establishing a funding source to fund seawall repair and/or replacements
community wide and direct the County Manger to add Staff for the sole purpose of identifying
failing seawalls.
Prepared by: Commissioner Tom Henning
Attachments: 1) Ordinance 85-02, 2) BCC Minutes January 28, 2014 Item l OB La Peninsula
MSBU Reconsideration, 3) Email from Josh Maxwell of Turrell, Hall and Associates, 4 code
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COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Item Number: 10.10.A.
3/11/2014 10.A.
Item Summary: Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners direct the
County Attorney to advertise a hearing to rescind Ordinance 85 -02 and to return with a new
Ordinance establishing a funding source to fund seawall repair and /or replacements community
wide. (Commissioner Henning)
Meeting Date: 3/11/2014
Prepared By
Name: SmithCamden
Title: Executive Coordinator to Commissioner,
2/28/2014 2:41:29 PM
Submitted by
Title: Executive Coordinator to Commissioner,
Name: SmithCamden
2/28/2014 2:41:30 PM
Approved By
Name: KlatzkowJeff
Title: County Attorney,
Date: 3/5/2014 2:03:40 PM
Name: KlatzkowJeff
Title: County Attorney,
Date: 3/5/2014 2:38:44 PM
Name: KlatzkowJeff
Title: County Attorney,
Date: 3/5/2014 3:14:20 PM
Name: IsacksonMark
Title: Director -Corp Financial and Mngmt Svs, Office of Management & Budget
Date: 3/5/2014 3:17:15 PM
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Name: IsacksonMark
Title: Director -Corp Financial and Mngmt Svs, Office of Management & Budget
Date: 3/5/2014 3:40:29 PM
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February 11, 2014
Item #I OB
THIS ITEM WAS APPROVED FOR RECONSIDERATION AT
THE JANUARY 14, 2014 BCC MEETING. RECOMMENDATION
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMIVIISSIONERS (1) ADOPTS THE
ATTACHED RESOLUTION WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE USE
OF THE UNIFORM METHOD OF COLLECTING NON -AD
VALOREM SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN THE LA
PENINSULA COMMUNITY TO FUND COSTS OF PROVIDING
SEAWALL IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER WATERWAY
IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE LA PENINSULA COMMUNITY,
AND (2) TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH LA
PENINSULA SEAWALL MUNICIPAL SERVICE BENEFIT UNIT —
MOTION FOR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IN COOPERATION
WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SEEK THE OPINION OF THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
THIS IS A LAWFUL PUBLIC PURPOSE — APPROVED;
MOTION TO RESCIND ORDINANCE 2013 -70 — FAILED
Mr. Chairman, your time - certain is Item 1 OB on your agenda
today. It's a recommendation the Board of County Commissioners,
number one, adopts the attached resolution which would authorize the
use of a uniform method of collecting non -ad valorem special
assessments within the La Peninsula community to fund the cost of
providing seawall improvements and other waterway improvements
for the La Peninsula community and, number two, to adopt an
ordinance to establish the La Peninsula Seawall Municipal Service
Benefit Unit.
This item was previously approved for reconsideration at your
January 14, 2014, BCC meeting.
.-� CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah. And that -- it is actually
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whether the board is going to vote to rescind the ordinance. That's the
issue --
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- on hand. So if we can stick to that;
however, after that there may be further action. But I think it's
important that we hear from the public speakers, unless somebody has
a burning desire to speak now. Nope.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: The only thing, before we start
with the public speakers, is whether or not we'd like to have the
County Attorney give us, you know, the options of how to address this
situation, like what the legal opportunities might be to get the question
answered --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMIlMIISSIONER HILLER: -- that has been raised.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I think the item is to vote to
rescind the ordinance or not. That's why the reconsideration is out of
there.
Subsequent, I think I agree that we're going to have some further
discussion, and I hope the County Attorney will participate because it's
really around the issue whether it's legal or not, okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And that really is the issue.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: How many public speakers do we
have?
MR. MILLER: We have 17 registered public speakers,
Chairman. Two of the speakers have several minutes ceded to them.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
MR. MILLER: Okay. Your first speaker is Jared Griffin (sic),
and he has several names that of ceded time to him. I just want to
confirm that you're here. Paul Harper.
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'-N MR. HARPER: Yes.
MR. MILLER: Okay. Jared Jones.
MR. JONES: (Raised hand.)
MR. MILLER: Elsa Martinez.
MS. MARTINEZ: (Raised hand.)
MR. MILLER: Okay. They've all ceded time to Mr. Griffin
(sic). So Mr. Griffin, you will have -- oh, one more, Joshua Yearout.
MR. YEAROUT: Here.
MR. MILLER: So you will have fifteen minutes to speak, Mr.
Griffin.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I think it's important. I mean,
the La Peninsula community has the attorney. I would think that Tony
Pires has several --
MR. MILLER: Yeah, he has several minutes, yeah.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So I think it's important to hear from
Mr. Pires first.
MR. MILLER: You want to hear him first?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Pires has a total of five people that have
ceded time to him, giving him a total of 18 minutes to talk. Let me
confirm the names of these people.
Michelle (sic) Pierpaoli. I don't know if I'm saying that close to
right.
MR. PIERPAOLI: Michael.
MR. MILLER: Michael, I'm sorry.
MR. PIERPAOLI: (Raised hand.)
MR. MILLER: Hakon Thuve.
MR. THUVE: Here.
MR. MILLER: Thank you.
Jim Crain?
MR. CRAIN: (Raised hand.)
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MR. MILLER: Bill Bruns.
MR. BRUNS: (Raised hand.)
MR. MILLER: Abe (sic) Drossner?
MS. DROSSNER: Abbe.
MR. MILLER: Abbe, sorry.
And so you, Mr. Pires, will have
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18 minutes to speak.
MR. PIRES: If I may, Mr. Vice Chair, wait until the full board is
seated to begin making the presentation, if that's okay.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes, sir. We'll wait for
Commissioner Henning's return.
MR. PIKES: Thank you very kindly.
COMNIISSIONER HILLER: So we're going to have Mr. --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: You can make some
general - purpose Valentine remarks, if you want to respond to
Commissioner Hiller.
MR. PIKES: I'm already on the hook, based on Commissioner
Hiller's statement.
COMIMIISSIONER HILLER: Damn right you are. Every man in
this goddamn county is. Pardon the goddamn, but I'm just saying.
If there is any man who does not give the significant women (sic)
in his life in this county a Valentine's acknowledgment of appropriate
proportion --
MR. PIKES: There's a scary term, "appropriate proportion," if
you like to fish and --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes.
COMNIISSIONER FIALA: I like that. I hope you say that a lot.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes. I'm going to repeat that
wherever I go.
MR. PIKES: "Appropriate" is in the eye of the beholder or
receiver, I guess.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I'm handing the gavel back to
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Commissioner Henning.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Oh, okay.
MR. PIRES: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Pires, yes, you have 18 minutes.
MR. PIRES: Thank you.
Mr. Chairman, members of the board, thank you for the
opportunity to speak today. My name is Tony Pires with the law firm
of Woodward, Pires & Lombardo, and I represent the La Peninsula
Condominium Association, Inc., and I've appeared before you back on
October 8, 2013, when the public petition was presented requesting the
establishment of the MSBU as well as on December 10, 2013, when
the MSBU was established and the resolution initiating the assessment
process was adopted by the board.
It is -- unfortunately, I was not able to speak at the January 14,
2014, meeting, but I believe you all received, prior to that date, an
email outlining some concerns and requests that the board at that time
not vote in favor of reconsideration. Regardless, we are here today,
and we're here to address these issues.
I would have thought that the more appropriate -- but I don't have
any issue with the process -- would have been for Mr. Grifoni to
appear first. He's the proponent of rescinding this ordinance, and I'm
the proponent of defending it, I guess. So unusual for the defendant or'
the defense to go first, but I will take that role, relish it.
And if I may, also, of the 18 minutes, preserve three minutes for
rebuttal to anything that Mr. Grifoni states in his presentation.
First of all, as I mentioned before, on January 13, 20145 I
provided an email to the Board of County Commissioners to make sure
it was clear on the record that the board understood that the
characterization in the public may be clouded at best, I think may be
the appropriate term.
As I presented it and has it -- as it has been presented and
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outlined, the cost of the design, repair and/or replacement project under
the MSBU will be paid solely by property owners within the MSBU
boundaries within La Peninsula, and the concept is for payment
through special assessments on the benefitting properties within La
Peninsula only collected by the tax collector on the Collier County tax
bill.
Only the La Peninsula property owners would pay for the repair
and/or replacement, whatever is determined, of the seawall by way of
the Collier County special assessment.
It was the property owners within La Peninsula who petitioned
the board to create the MSBU, and the property owners who will be
paying.
To be clear, no county ad valorem tax dollars will be utilized. No
county grant funds will be utilized. No county funds other than funds
generated to the special assessment within that MSBU will be utilized.
Additionally, as stated in that meeting, we are willing -- and my ^
client has authorized me -- that we would enter into an agreement with
the county to advance fund the costs associated with the initial
administrative startup costs and legal costs associated with the MSBU
to keep this revenue neutral to everybody else in Collier County. That
was a -- the polestar and the north star by which we are guided in this
particular process. And, apparently, that was lost in the process, too,
or in the translation.
The establishment of the MSBU also contemplated that the
county would issue bonds or notes to fund the entire project with the
payback of the bonds or notes to be paid, again, entirely and solely by
the property owners within the MSBU boundaries.
And, again, no individuals, residents, or property owners other
than the property owners within La Peninsula would have any
obligation or make any payments associated with this project.
We've had the opportunity to review the materials. And I
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appreciate Jeff Klatzkow providing them to everyone in advance as
well as being in the agenda packet, the various materials associated
with this. And I've been authorized by my client to ask this County
Commission not to repeal or rescind either Ordinance 2013 -70 or
Resolution 2013 -292.
As outlined in my letter I've hand - delivered yesterday to each
board member and emailed also to each board member with some
attachments, what I think are some additional points that are helpful for
the board's consideration, because a couple of issues were tossed out at
the last board meeting in the public petition asserting that this isn't a
valid public purpose.
I'm not going to rehash the entirety of Mr. Klatzkow's fine
opinion and that of Nabors Giblin when they stated that in their, you
know, opinion this can serve a valid public purpose.
And I think it's important to note, Nabors Giblin stated, from the
limited facts presented to us, it appears that there are a variety of
significant county public purposes in providing seawall improvements,
parentheses; i.e., safety, environmental, recreational, aesthetic, and
others.
The facts also support the proposition that the seawall facilities
constitute essential facilities. That's Page 2 of the Nabors Giblin
correspondence of January 23, 2014, that is in your agenda packet.
And Mr. Klatzkow went through a four -point analysis. And,
again, he has advised and opined, I believe, that it's legal and the board
action was legal.
I think -- in addition to what has been provided to you, I provided
some additional materials to show that the funding of seawalls on
private property serves a valid public purpose. This county has, in the
past, through the Bayshore /Gateway Triangle CRA adopted a shoreline
stabilization program. That was back in 2008 and 2009.
That -- in that instance the board obviously found that it was a
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valid public purpose to provide grants up to $5,000 to individuals who
would provide shoreline stabilization, rebuilding, reconstructing, or
even building, in some instances, seawalls.
And I provided an example of one grant that was authorized by
the board, and payment was made by the county to that individual in
the amount of $5,000. The source of those monies was public funds,
county funds, the TIF, the Tax Increment Financing, which are from ad
valorem taxes. Again, public funds. The board found a public
purpose.
It's also interesting to note that in the CRA there's another
program for commercial properties that people can enhance the interior
of the commercial structures through the grants. The people can put
mulch in their yards through grants. So that gets back to the aesthetics
and to the functioning aspect of it.
Additionally, to the point as to whether or not, you know,
seawalls and the seawall constitutes a valid public purpose, I think it's
helpful to look to other jurisdictions. In the city of Punta Gorda, I've
just sent you an excerpt from their little PDF PowerPoint as to seawalls
and why seawalls are important. And I think it's important to have on
the record that -- and I think it falls true in this case -- seawalls perform
multiple functions, all of which are important to property owners and,
it says, and to the city of Punta Gorda and, I would submit, and to
Collier County.
The most important function is to protect private property from
loss of land mass into the water due to erosion from drainage and wave
action.
Seawalls also serve navigational purposes by maintaining the
proper water depth in a canal system, or this way, in a navigable body
of water.
Another function is the seawall delineates the boundary between
private property, the owner's land, and public property, the water
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which governs sovereign lands of a governmental entity.
And, furthermore, seawalls also prevent soil from eroding and
property from collapsing into the navigable waterways. And, again, so
I think there's more than an adequate basis for the determination of a
valid public purpose.
What's also important, I think, in analyzing this is not to -- it's
important to know when you're listening to various statutes to get the
entire statute cited and referenced to you.
Mr. Grifoni last time cited to Section 125.01(Q), Florida Statute,
where he said establishment of MSBUs is limited to various services
and said, seawalls aren't found within that, are they?
What was left out of the presentation was this portion. In Chapter
125.01, subsection (1)(Q, Florida Statutes, as to counties -- that's the
home rule statute. You all have home rule. The old rule in Dillon's
case, as I call it, you know, is gone. Anyone who knows Florida
Constitutional law knows that. You have a lot of home rule power.
To the extent not inconsistent with general or special law, this
power of the county includes, but is not restricted to, the power to
establish and subsequently merge or abolish those created hereunder
municipal service taxing or benefit units for any part or all of the
unincorporated area of the county within which may be provided, and
it goes on to talk about fire protection, law enforcement, and other
essential facilities and multiple services from funds derived from
service charges, special assessments, or taxes within such unit only.
That language was conspicuously omitted from the presentation on
January 14, 2014.
What was also conspicuously omitted is, I'll call it, the home rule
catchall language in Section 125.01(W), Florida Statutes, that the
county has the ability to perform any other acts not inconsistent with
law which acts are in the common interest of the people of the county
and exercise all powers and privileges not specifically prohibited by
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law. Again, home rule power.
And, again, another statute that I think is important is Section
197.3631, Florida Statutes, dealing with non -ad valorem assessments.
And it talks about another section of the Florida Statutes. It's --
Section 197.3632 is additional authority for local governments -- you
are a local government -- to impose and collect non -ad valorem
assessments supplemental to the home rule power -- so in addition to
the home rule powers -- pursuant to Sections 125.01 and 166.021 and
Chapter 170 or any other law.
So, again, you know, in my opinion, I think if Nabors Giblin's
provided that opinion, I concur with that and Mr. Klatzkow that you -all
have the ability to engage in a project and make a determination that
there's a valid public purpose to establish the MSBU for the repair
and/or replacement of the seawall at La Peninsula.
With regards to the current process, I suggested in my
correspondence, as opposed to the bond - validation process, waiting
until the point in time where you've gone through the whole process
and had an engineer's report and assessment methodology,
equalizations hearing, and all those that are required under the statute.
There's a suggestion to have a validation proceeding. I would suggest,
and the board of my client has authorized me to provide an alternative
mechanism, and I think a less expensive, more expedited process of
apply for and request a formal attorney general's opinion on this
particular issue. I think that would serve the public well, serve the
community well, and serve the board well in this particular instance.
And, therefore, we request that particular issue.
I'm not sure what will be brought up in the presentation by Mr.
Grifoni. I know that there are a number of issues with regards to
comments made by county staff. There are some emails that were
provided; some were not provided. But I think you go back and look
at -- there are a number of engineering reports, and you have a
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situation where some say it's a 41 -year -old -- this is a 2010 report. It's
a 41 -year -old seawall, useful life of four years. We're in the fourth
year.
This project and the seawalls are located on a dynamic waterway
with, you know, tremendous -- we all know what waterways do as far
as scouring and other effects. And we believe that the mechanism of
the MSBU is the appropriate mechanism, and we request that the
Board of County Commissioners not rescind the ordinance, not repeal
the resolution, and proceed forward.
We're at the beginning of the process, and I've articulated that
before. I think to short -cut it now would be a disservice to the
residents and the property owners within La Peninsula. Whether or not
at the end of the day when the board hears the report, the board decides
or the advisory committee recommends to the board to do anything, I
don't know what that answer is going to be. I don't know what this
board may be. The board may say, nope, we don't want to do
anything. That ultimately is your decision.
In our humble opinion, in my humble opinion, I think it's
premature to make those final decisions now. In essence, that's what
you would be doing by killing this mechanism that, instead, I think it's
appropriate to maintain it, keep it moving forward to provide a
mechanism to protect the property to have these valid various public
purposes implemented.
Again, I would reserve three minutes to respond to anything that
Mr. Grifoni may say or any other issues that I believe may be
appropriate, and thank you for your kind attention.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Pires has five minutes and 45 seconds left.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Hang on. Yeah, that's up to the
chairman to recognize that. This is not -- we're not having a court
proceeding here, okay. It's just an issue whether we're going to rescind
the previous action and/or take other action, okay.
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So if you want to use up your time, that's fine. But Commissioner
Hiller has a question. Do you have anything else you want to say?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And so do I.
MR. PIRES: As I mentioned, no. I'd like to reserve the time. I
understand what the chair has indicated. I'd still request a reservation
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But the chair was the one that
changed it around so that you couldn't speak next. You really wanted
to speak afterwards. He changed you to be first. So you should allow
him that privilege.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: And I did that out of courtesy because
this ordinance and this resolution affect his clients. So it was out of
courtesy I did that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, then you should let him speak
afterwards.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: It's not a court of law, Commissioner
Fiala.
COMIlVIISSIONER FIALA: It doesn't make any difference. It's
also being -- courtesy --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: You have five more minutes.
MR. PIRES: I appreciate the fact that it was unilateral courtesy
not requested; that's why I would request the reservation of additional
time after Mr. Grifoni has finished his --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Are you complete?
MR. PIRES: I've finished my presentation for now.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Are you complete.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No. Mr. Chairman, he doesn't get --
Mr. Grifoni doesn't even live there, and he's going to have the benefit
of not having any rebuttal after he makes accusations after he's heard
this presentation.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Our --
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Fairness.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Hang on.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm telling you what I think.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: I know you're a very passionate
person.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, yet, but you know what,
Georgia -- and I mean this in all nice, she's been able to interrupt --
excuse me. She's been able to interrupt all day long, and nobody's ever
said anything, but now that I am --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: I need some security here.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, for goodness sake.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: This meeting is out of control. We
need control.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Would you like to remove me,
security?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: You need to be silent for just a
second. Can you?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: If you can.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: No. I'm trying to conduct a meeting,
and it should be civil, in a civil manner. And, again, I know this is
very passionate.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: We'll get to your issues, but let's look
at the board's rules, okay, can we do that, on public speakers?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You be silent, so I'm being silent.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. County Attorney? The rules --
MR. KLATZKOW: This is not a quasijudicial proceeding, sir.
It's not. A quasijudicial proceeding I would say something different,
^ and he would have the opportunity to rebut. This is a legislative
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hearing, and the chair gets to preserve order and conduct the meeting.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. What is our rule about public
speakers?
MR. KLATZKOW: Our rules of public speakers are three
minutes per person.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Unless time is ceded -- exceeded (sic)
by others, the chairman may grant, right?
MR. KLATZKOW: That's right.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: I granted that, correct?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. I'll ask you one more time. Do
you have anything further for the time that was succeeded (sic) to you
by other people?
MR. PIRES: Yes, I do have something further in response to
comments, made by Mr. Grifoni, to make. I understand what the chair
has indicated, but that's what I would request, respectfully.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Would you like to -- other
commissioners have questions or comments?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I do.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I do, too.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, Commissioner Hiller did, and
then we have Commissioner Fiala and then Commissioner Nance.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I actually would like to first
respond to Commissioner Fiala's comments about my comments
during the day.
You know, I prepare very diligently for the meetings. I address
issues in depth, and so I will raise those points appropriately, because
I'm here serving the public. I'm not here to sit mum and walk away.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I didn't --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Let me finish. I just want to make
a point.
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CHAIRMAN HENNING: I don't know if this is really
appropriate.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: It is. I want -- I'm going to make
this final comment, and then I want to proceed to this.
When I make comments, I hit the button, and I'm recognized by
the chair, and I make those comments. And thank you, Mr. Chair, for
recognizing me in the manner in which you do to allow me to speak on
behalf of the constituency and their concerns and interest.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: And we're all equal.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: We are. This is a board of equals
for sure.
So to that end, I'd like to get to this issue right here. The first
thing that I would like to address -- and I need help on this. Hideaway
Beach has an MSTU which raises funds for renourishment of the
private portion, the dry sand portion of Hideaway Beach, which is not
a publicly accessible beach.
I believe the board determined that there was a, you know,
primary public purpose to essentially renourish that beach for the
benefit of shoreline protection. And while it's not publicly accessible,
we have done that.
How were we able to -- and I'm tying this into this presentation
done by Mr. Pires. How were we able to do that?
MR. KLATZKOW: The legislature has -- by statute has made a
determination that beaches are essential to the economy of Florida, and
they've made the determination that you may use public dollars to
renourish beaches, period. It does not matter if they're public or
private.
COMNIISSIONER HILLER: So either /or, whether it's public or
private, you can use tax dollars to renourish beaches?
MR. KLATZKOW: General tax money, yes.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: Okay.
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MR. KLATZKOW: CDC funds, different type of conversation.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: So let me -- so to clarify -- and this
is actually very interesting to me -- you're saying we could use General
Fund dollars to renourish the private portion of a beach?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: Okay. So that's the difference
between the Hideaway Beach MSTU and the argument that's before us
today. And the argument before us today is whether or not that
seawall -- that the repair of that seawall serves a primary public
purpose; is that correct? Is that your argument, essentially? I mean,
you're saying it does.
MR. PIRES: Yeah, valid public purpose, and some people would
say primary, some paramount, but public purpose.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right. So, basically, it serves --
you know, if it's an essential facility that serves a primary public
purpose, and the issue there is that purpose, as being -- as serving a
primary public purpose, would be first determined by the BCC based
on the evidence presented by staff.
MR. PIRES: That's correct, but I also believe -- and we've
mentioned before and Mr. Klatzkow mentioned it in his memorandum
-- that the legislature's also indicated, under Chapter 170, that
municipalities can fund seawall repairs and replacements.
And, again, that shows that there's a valid public purpose to local
government doing that, and that's why I referenced the other portions
of the Florida Statutes says you utilize 170; local governments can
utilize 170.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: Right.
MR. PIRES: Plus the county's home rule power.
COMNIISSIONER HILLER: Well, it's interesting that that
statute has never been constitutionally challenged, the statute relating
to municipalities. So the use of public funds to restore a seawall, ,--*N
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obviously, has been constitutionally upheld in that it hasn't been turned
over by any court, if you want to --
MR. PIRES: No. In fact, there's an attorney general's opinion
cited by Mr. Grifoni and, I think, cited by Nabors Giblin, maybe by
Jeff -- Attorney General's Opinion 90-37 where it talked about --
Question No. 5, I believe, was can the city pay to restore or reconstruct
or repair seawalls on private property, and that's city of Palm Beach, I
believe, if I'm not mistaken.
And, at the end of the day, the Attorney General said it's up to
local government to make that determination that there's a valid public
purpose, which means that they can make that determination that it's a
valid public purpose.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And to go further to your
discussion, you said the -- you know, the expense of what needs to be
done to that seawall, if this were to be approved, under this ordinance
-- the expense is actually determined by the BCC, not by the owners of
the unit.
MR. PIRES: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So if the BCC made the
determination that it doesn't appear that a repair to the seawall is
necessary, then it wouldn't happen.
MR. PIRES: That's the -- ultimately the board's decision sitting
ex officio of the governing board of the MSBU, yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: In other words, it's not the
residents that control the MSTU; it's the Board of County
Commissioners?
MR. PIRES: The Board of County Commissioners does control.
They are the ultimate determining entity, yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And you said that the expense that
would be borne would only be borne by those taxpayers within MSTU
^ boundaries --
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MR. PIKES: The property owners, yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- only to the extent that their
property would be benefited by the protection afforded by the seawall.
MR. PIRES: That's correct. As part of the assessment process,
the Board of County Commissioners would hold what's called an
assessment hearing or an equalization hearing where an assessment
methodology would be considered, and the board would then review
that assessment methodology, which would allocate the benefits to the
properties, which means allocating the dollars, and the board would
have the opportunity to hear from the property owners within MSBU
boundaries as to whether or not a particular property owner says I'm
benefited or I'm not benefited and whether the allocation is appropriate
or not.
And the board, sitting as the equalization board, would equalize
and levy and impose the special assessments.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And then the issue of no county
funds being used. So if the decision was made to incur any obligation
or make any expenditure, it would be done -- it would be repaid or paid
for only using funds through -- you know, collected through special
assessments against those -- those taxpayers within the MSTU
boundary?
MR. PIRES: No. The concept would be -- and at the initial
portion before any assessments were levied and collected in the tax bill
in November, would be an advanced funding agreement, or as
expenses were incurred, they'd be paid. So there would be no monies
and obligations incurred by the county from a revenue perspective.
And then, thereafter, everything would be paid for from the
special assessments levied within the MSBU.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And if someone didn't pay an
assessment, what recourse does the county have to collect those funds?
MR. PIRES: If the county -- which I think the county indicated
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in its initial resolution -- would use the uniform method of collection,
putting it on -- it's called on roll -- it's on the tax roll, so it's on the tax
bill. And it's a separate line item when you get your notices, if you
look.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Is it a priority lien?
MR. PIRES: It's a lien of equal dignity with all city, county, and
state, local taxes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But ahead of mortgages?
MR. PIRES: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So it's a priority lien?
MR. PIKES: Yes, it's priority. Again, it has the same priority as
the county --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. I understand, but it's a priority
lien as against any lien like a mortgage --
MR. PIRES: That's correct.
COMVIISSIONER HILLER: --for example?
MR. PIRES: And what would happen is the tax collector -- you
can't discretely pay just your ad valorem tax and say I'm not paying the
special assessment. Either you pay it all or you don't pay any. If you
don't pay any, a tax certificate sale is held; the tax collector gets that
money and disperses it to the local entities, including the special
assessments to the MSBU.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So if I understand correctly, what
-- if we leave this ordinance in place, the first question that this board
would have to address as the board of the MSTU is whether or not that
seawall and the repair of that seawall would be serving a primary or
paramount public purpose?
MR. PIRES: I would submit that what the board -- respectfully,
that what would happen is that the staff with the advisory committee
would solicit requests for proposals from engineering firms following
the CCNA requirements and that those recommendations as to who --
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the ranking would go back to the staff or back to the advisory
committee, and they would make recommendations to this board. And
the board would, ultimately, make the final determination as to the
ranking of professionals.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But I want to know -- -the question
about the primary public purpose. I mean, the -- if this ordinance is
left in place, the first determination by this board would be that the
repair of this seawall would serve a primary public purpose.
MR. PIRES: I think, by the adoption, the board has determined
that, and I think by virtue --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Does the wording of the ordinance
already provide that we have recognized that?
MR. KLATZKOW: No. It's based on the record.
COMMIISSIONER HILLER: So we have not -- we have adopted
an ordinance to create an MSTU, but as of yet we have not made the
determination that this specific repair will serve a primary public
purpose, so that question would come back to the board for
determination? I mean, that's an evidentiary question.
MR. KLATZKOW: No. By adopting the ordinance, you found
that there was a public purpose to this.
COMIlVIISSIONER HILLER: Oh, did we?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Right.
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes. You can't adopt an ordinance without a
public purpose.
COMMIISSIONER HILLER: But this -- well, we can say that the
seawall serves a public purpose. But are we -- did we make the --
maybe I'm cutting it too fine. But the actual repair. So any repair to
any asset which is deemed to be essential is -- yeah, okay; I see.
So we already made the finding that the seawall provides an
essential -- that the seawall is an essential facility is what you're
saying? 10-.
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'-*N MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, but this is the reconsideration.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: I understand.
So the issue, really, that we have on this reconsideration is the
question of whether or not we properly found that that -- that this
seawall serves an essential purpose. I mean, that's really the reason
why we would be rescinding it if we rescinded this.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: No, that's --
MR. KLATZKOW: That's one of the reasons.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah, but the --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: What's the other reason?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: The reason it's on the agenda, there
was a public petition. You made the motion to --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, yeah. No, I understand.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- reconsider it.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And we are.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: And the question was to rescind it like
Mr. Pires said.
COMIlVIISSIONER HILLER: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So that's why it's on the agenda.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And -- but I want to -- I want to
make sure -- I understand why, but what I want to be sure of is that,
you know, if we rescind it, we're rescinding it for a specific reason, and
that's what the whole purpose of this discussion is. And the reason we
would rescind it is -- the first reason being that we have now decided,
for whatever reason, that the seawall is not an essential facility and
doesn't serve a primary public purpose. What's the other reason?
MR. KLATZKOW: You could decide that you do not want to do
this.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: I mean, that's an arbitrary reason.
MR. KLATZKOW: No, it's not arbitrary, ma'am. I mean, this is a
legislative decision. I mean, just because you can do something
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doesn't mean you have to do something. My job is to tell you that you
can do this if you want.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay.
MR. KLATZKOW: But you don't --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But, you know, Mr. Grifoni in his
presentations, which were very clear, raised concerns that, you know,
this was an unconstitutional act, that it was an illegal act, that the
seawall does not serve a primary public purpose, and that was why, to
me -- this being an evidentiary question, I thought it was very
important that we bring it back because, you know, if it doesn't serve a
primary public purpose, then we can't do it. If it does serve a primary
public purpose, we can.
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you have any more questions for
Mr. Pires?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Look, I'm going to cut to the chase,
okay. Mr. Pires sent us an email asking for an AGO. I'm okay with
that; however, we can ask all the questions we want, provide the public
record that it is today, today right now, but you have another party
involved in this. You have your other client, the Clerk of the Courts,
on whether he's going to deposit the loan that we're going to borrow
for this seawall and whether he's going to pay the contractor, because
the payments are going to come through the county.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And it has to be for a valid public
purpose.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So if we're going to go through this
process, the direction should be direct the County Attorney to write an
AGO with the cooperation of the Clerk of Court.
And I'll tell you, I talked to the Clerk, Dwight Brock. He has a
lot of concern of this; however, if the board throws politics into the
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question, you're going to lose the process.
So we can go through all these opinions through the AGO, which
is only opinion. It's not law. If you get a bond validation, that's law,
where a judge signs it whether it's lawful or not. An AGO is just an
opinion.
So if you do not include the clerk, then we're just wasting time.
MR. KLATZKOW: You're going to need a bond validation
anyway because I don't think you're going to get financing without it at
this point, okay. I don't think bond counsel's going to sign off on this
issue at this time without that.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: But Mr. Pires, through his letter -- did
you see that?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, I did.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. I agree with that. That could be
a first start, okay. And if we're -- you're saying, through your legal
opinion, that we need a bond validation --
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- that's fine.
Crystal, is your understanding -- did Dwight say anything to you
about this?
MS. KINZEL: Yes, Commissioner. He said we'd be agreeable to
that process, to get the AGO and go with the bond - validation hearing.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
MS. KINZEL: So we're okay with that.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So -- hang on. To cut it to the chase,
I'm going to make a motion that we direct the County Attorney to
write, in cooperation of the Clerk of Court, a question to the Florida
Attorney General on whether this is lawful or not and use the public
record as it exists. So that's my motion. Is that okay with you --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I second that.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: --Tony?
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MR. PIKES: Yes, sir, and to the extent that the county wishes to
have additional support from my end. I won't be representing the
Clerk in this matter.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: No, no. And --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I agree. I'm going to second
his motion.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah. And, you know, I don't want
you to get in trouble here, because you've got two clients.
MR. PIKES: No, sir. As I mentioned to you, I'm not going to be
representing the Clerk in that matter.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. And you're petitioning the
government to spend money to take action. That's not a part of my
motion; however, I agree with your letter, okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: May I ask for an amendment? And
that is that upon receiving that AGO, if the AGO confirms that we can
move forward or gives us the discretion to move forward, that we also
have, as required, based on what bond counsel is coming back to us
and stating, is a bond - validation hearing on this. Because the
bond - validation hearing basically takes all of this debate as to whether
it's legal or not to find this seawall to be an essential facility and the
expenditure of these funds to serve a primary public purpose out of our
hands.
MR. KLATZKOW: What the bond validation will do is bring
certainty to the lender.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: Right. But it will --
MR. KLATZKOW: Once that is completed --
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: But it validates whether or not
what we're doing is legally correct also.
MR. KLATZKOW: Well, no. What it really does is it gives
certainty to the lender, because once you're done, if a property owner
now doesn't want to pay the assessment and raises that it was
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'-` unconstitutional, it won't matter, all right. And you just need one
property owner there to raise that. That's why at this point in time
you're going to need the bond validation.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Understood. But, again, it also
serves to validate whether our determination as to whether or not we
are using public funds for a paramount public purpose would be
affirmed by the court.
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, ma'am.
COMIMIISSIONER HILLER: And so that's why the decision
should be deferred to the court rather than left in our hands.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Are you okay with the motion,
Commissioner Fiala?
COMIVIISSIONER FIALA: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Do you have questions of Mr.
Pires?
COMIVIISSIONER FIALA: No. I had to say something to
Commissioner Hiller.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And I'm sorry if I made it sound like
I was attacking you. I did not.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, that's okay.
COMIMIISSIONER FIALA: I was just saying that it seemed that
it was okay for you to, but it wasn't okay for me to.
COMIMIISSIONER HILLER: Yeah. No, I understand.
COMIVIISSIONER FIALA: I didn't mean that to be cruel.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I appreciate that. Thank you.
You're very kind to bring that up.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Nance, do you have
questions of Mr. Pires?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yes. Let me understand the
motion. Now the motion is going to be for a bond - validation hearing
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or for an attorney general's --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Both.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: For both?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But if the AGO --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: What is the purpose of the AGO's
opinion?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: I made the motion. Can I clarify it,
please?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I asked for the amendment. Go
ahead.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. The motion was have the --
direct the County Attorney to write a question to the AGO with the
cooperation and assistance from the Clerk of the Court --
COMN41SSIONER NANCE: Okay.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- okay, on whether this is lawful.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Got it.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: And, further, are we going to seek
a bond validation?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I don't think this is the end of
this issue. And the County Attorney is -- this is going to be back on
the agenda.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Right.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So I think at that time we can do that.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I can support that motion, but I will
tell you right now that I am not going to support this project unless we
have a bond validation, and I'll tell you why. I don't think that the
parties in this room are ever going to come to agreement that it's legal
unless some definitive authority declares it thus.
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And I think that all our MSTUs and our MSBUs and all our
determinations that we do -- and we declare things a valid public
purpose all the time. And a lot of them, frankly, in my view, are more
controversial than this one, and we do it all the time.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: And I think until we get a legal
determination that opines and lets us know if we have the authority to
do that, I think all these things are going to be in question. And I
regret that, because I think that our MSTU and MSBU programs have
a great deal of utility. It takes cost away from government and puts it
in the hands of the users themselves. So I support that.
So I will support the motion, but I will tell Mr. Pires, unless his
client is willing to go forth with a bond validation, that I will not
support it because I just think it's going to be an endless cycle of
misery that we're never going to get around. We're going to be in this
philosophical debate ad nauseam until we get a bond validation.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. No. Hang on, hang on. Can I
go first?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah. And I would need that from
Mr. Pires from what his opinion is on a bond validation is at a later
date. So -- but I'm not done yet.
You mentioned the board has done seawall repair in the past, in
the Bayshore CRA.
MR. PIRES: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Have you taken a look at the law
governing the CRA's, Statute 163?
MR. PIRES: Yes. And, again, the legislature's made a
determination that it's a valid public purpose to expend money on those
seawalls.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you --
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MR. PIKES: And so I think, again, that shows that that
expenditure is a valid public purpose, whether it's this county, whether
it's a city, whether it's a town, village, or estate.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Well, let me back up, because
you stated the legislators found the determination under 170.
- MR. PIRES: No. What I said was 170 is an assessment process
-- excuse me; 170 deals with municipalities, and it talks about that they
can impose assessments for various purposes, including for seawalls.
And I looked at 197.3631 that talked about, you know, the home rule
powers and other various statutes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
MR. PIKES: And, again, 170 -- that language in 170 about the
ability to fund seawall repairs by municipalities, another indication that
it's a valid public purpose.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I was --
MR. PIKES: And, again, counties have home rule power, and --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Hang on.
MR. PIKES: -- Commissioner Hiller's familiar with the rule in
Dillon's case, which used to be a law in Florida that counties couldn't
do squat unless they were specifically told to, and now we have home
rule power.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: You didn't quite answer the question.
I'll try again.
MR. PIRES: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: And I recognize 170 has the ability. It
says to repair or replace seawalls. It doesn't say public or private. 170
is a municipality, and you stated that.
But my question was, CRA's are under a different chapter within
the Florida Statutes; is that correct?
MR. PIRES: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you know what statute that is?
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MR. PIRES: Not off the top of my head, but there is a different
statute.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: All right. So we don't know -- you
stated that the board has done this in the past. So we don't know if it
calls for it in Statute 163, which governs Community Redevelopment
Agencies, or whether it doesn't.
MR. PIRES: But, again, I think it's the fundamental premise that
legislature has determined a valid public purpose is the expenditure of
monies to rehabilitate blighted properties, pay for landscaping, pay for
aesthetics, and seawalls in both the CRA statute and in 170 so that the
public purpose has been determined.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: I agree it's under Statute 170 under
municipalities, so we're not going to argue that point, okay.
And you said seawalls are very important for the protection, and I
agree with that, and that's why the Board of Commissioners in 1982, I
.-� believe -- 1985, through Ordinance 2, created a seawall ordinance.
And I will pass that out to my colleagues, and I have a copy for you,
sir.
MR. PIRES: Is that 82 -2?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yes.
MR. PIRES: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: That is a public nuisance -- one of the
public nuisance ordinance in case property owners fail to repair their
seawall. All right. So we recognize that it is very important.
However, the board, if they're going to continue this, needs to
decide what to do with that ordinance because it is an equal - protection
issue, Commissioners. All right.
And, in fact, you have an email in your box -- I'm sure you do,
because I was copied on it -- that a community -- a private community
has decided to tax themselves through their homeowners' assessments
to repair their seawall. All right. So that question needs to be
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answered.
But the most important question, Mr. Pires, why is -- your
homeowners' association that you represent is not deciding to assess
themselves through the HOA to do the repairs?
MR. PIKES: I think I've previously raised the issue that the --
number one, there's a determination it's a valid public purpose; number
two, that an expeditious appropriate financing mechanism is by
utilization of the MSBU where the costs are equally apportioned or
appropriately apportioned after a number of public hearings and with
the certainty of payment and repayment by virtue of the special
assessment being collected on the tax bill.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you recognize that there are
several homeowners' associations that assess their members fees for
maintenance?
MR. PIRES: I'm sure that happens all the time, and I'm sure there
are a number of associations where people assess their homeowners to
maintain common elements and to also enforce aesthetic covenants.
And then, again, in the Bayshore /Gateway Triangle CRAs --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: That's very true.
MR. PIRES: -- and other areas, the county has given grant
monies to take care of aesthetics.
So, I mean, you have a number of instances where, you know, it's
an appropriate activity for the government to, in this instance, with the
public purpose, a mechanism is available, and the property owner's
requesting that mechanism be utilized.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Can you answer my question, please?
MR. PIRES: And the question again is, I'm sorry?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Why is it that your clients, the
homeowners' association, is not assessing themselves to repair or
replace the seawall?
MR. PIRES: They have been assessing themselves over a period
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of time. And they have -- I think the number was indicated of
$2005000 is currently in the reserve, and that was planned on being
utilized to help reduce the cost of the financing and/or assist in the
advanced funding.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Was that also used for the limerock or
riprap in front of their community to purchase that. Was that --
MR. PIRES: I have no idea. I was not involved at that time.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. So they're choosing not to
assess -- and this is a question. They're choosing not to assess
themselves to replace or repair the seawalls?
MR. PIRES: I believe I answered the question with the fact that
they have assessed in the past and --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So they have the ability to do so?
MR. PIKES: If I could finish, please. They have assessed in the
past an amount, and I think it was approximately $200,000. I don't
�-• represent them from the condominium association budgetary process. I
don't know what assessments have been levied at all for this coming
year.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So they have the ability to do so?
You just proved that they have assessed themselves --
NM. PIRES: I never said they did not, and no one ever has.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. So they have the -- still have
the ability to do so.
Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, this is a very interesting
ordinance, because what this ordinance clearly shows is that seawalls
do act as an essential facility and that they do serve, primarily, a public
purpose.
Now, the issue of whether or not this homeowners' association
adequately built up their reserves or not is really irrelevant to the issue,
and that is whether or not this wall now needs to be repaired because
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there is a public health, safety, and welfare concern.
And if the determination is made that there is then, quite frankly,
we need to act, and we need to do what's necessary to protect the
public's health, safety, and welfare.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, let me give you an opinion from
the chief county engineer that's stating that it does not need to be
replaced. All it needs to do is be repaired, minor repairs.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well -- and, again, what is the --
can the chief engineer come and speak to us, or -- can you please --
then, Mr. Casalanguida, since you represent that agency, can you come
here?
MR. PIKES: And if I may, on that point, I think what's important,
there was a prior email of March 21, 2013, where Mr. McKenna stated,
under this nuisance ordinance for seawalls, he said, I guess by Section
22 -321 this would be considered a failed seawall, as it has moved from
its original position, parenthesis, certainly this would apply to many
and so therefore, it is a nuisance. In reading the reports, they are
taking steps towards repair and evaluating best methods currently.
I don't think the county should get involved with the
methodologies being debated between the consultants involved.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: That was a prior email to his --
MR. PIKES: Yes, two months before. And once again, it's --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Two months. What's the date of
that one?
MR. PIKES: March 21 st, and the one you have is May 6. And
on May 21 st there was another email where he says I have not been to
the site. I have read the reports from four engineering firms, each
having a slightly different perspective and professional orientation.
Had several conversations, engage another engineer. And they've
required riprap material, they're proceeding to --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So let me ask you a question.
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What is the proposed cost of the repair?
MR. PIRES: There are a number of various estimates based upon
the engineering reports.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Not replacement. Repair.
MR. PIRES: That's sort of factored in. Some of them talk about
partial repair, partial replacement. We're talking, you know, two to
four to six million.
COMMSSIONER HILLER: For the repair?
MR. PIRES: There's different components. If you look at the
different reports -- and that's what's difficult here. There are four
different reports. Some say the opinion of the engineers -- and this
goes back to 2002 (sic) or'11, or'12.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: What's the current opinion? I want
the most current opinion.
MR. PIRES: I don't have that with me. And, again, there's
different segments that they feel are deteriorating more than others.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I ask you a question?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: You know, the -- if the question of
whether or not this serves a primary public purpose is asked, the next
question is, you know, we as the board have to make a determination
of what is a legitimate expenditure based on what the need is. And I
think there's a lot of question here as to, you know, what is -- what
really needs to be done versus, you know, what the residents want to
do, and that's up to us to decide.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I think you need to determine,
my opinion, whether you're going to enforce this ordinance on
seawalls for other because, again, it's equal; however, what the motion
is, is to seek an AGO, so -- and at that point they might say, no, you
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can't move forward with it, but it might say other things that we would
move forward with a bond validation or whatever.
So it's -- you know, I agree with Tony Pires' email, a bond
validation is expensive. Looks like we're going to go through that
anyways; however, this might be something that could be used in the
future during the process to either provide a partnership or not.
And, again, I think his recommendation is a good
recommendation.
COMIlVIISSIONER HILLER: And as far as equal protection goes
or -- quite frankly, this would apply equally to all similarly situated
property owners.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: If the seawalls are left in disrepair,
and it obviously rises to a level of an unlawful act and public nuisance
as -- based on this ordinance already exists and has existed since 1985,
then, yes, we would take the necessary measures to get it repaired.
So I agree with you, Commissioner Henning; I think requesting
the AGO as the first step is important. It is only an opinion, so it is
nonbinding, but I think we need to do that.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Can we go to other commissioners?
COMIlVIISSIONER HILLER: Yeah. It's a big deal.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. And I don't know who was
first. Commissioner Coyle --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I was, but my light got turned off
for some reason.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: No, it's on.
COMIVIISSIONER COYLE: Then Commissioner Nance's came
on, and I put mine on after that. But you make the call, whichever you
CHAIRMAN HENNING: No, you go ahead.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Commissioner Coyle.
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. You know, we can take
statements from either side and use them to try to justify the decisions
we want to make, but there is a study here by Coastal Engineering
dated August 6, 2010, and it -- they make the observation that this
structure, the seawall, was constructed 41 years ago and is nearing the
end of its designed life.
Complicating the situation is the fact that the channel bottom
adjacent to the wall has significantly scoured. The large quantity of
riprap placed in front of the wall has helped stabilize the wall;
however, the channel has continued to scour.
It is recommended that the seawall be replaced within the next
four years. That would have been in 2014 that it would have been
replaced. The cost of replacing the existing concrete wall will vary
depending upon the type of material used and the geotechnical
conditions encountered.
So there is some evidence from a reputable engineering firm that
the seawall needs to be replaced.
Now, to the point whether the people have the ability to tax
themselves to replace the seawall, I think the conclusion is absolutely.
They can tax themselves to pay the seawall, and probably most of the
people couldn't afford to pay it, because you've got no way of
financing it.
You are going to get hit with a $50,000 per unit cost for doing
this, and how many of you have $50,000 lying around that you'd put
into this process? So you couldn't do it, probably.
So why do you come to government? Because we're supposed to
be here to help. And if we can help you and at the same time be fair to
everybody and lawful, why aren't we rushing to help you?
You're paying for all the costs. You're paying for administrative
costs associated with this. There's no money being transferred to any
�. other property owners in the county. You're doing exactly the same
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thing that dozens of homeowners are doing.
You know something, the only thing that seems to make you
stand out is that yours is a private community.
And I have this -- I have a feeling that this is more concerned
about the fact that you have a private community than whether or not
we really have the right to help you.
So I hope this works out for you. I think we should be trying to
find ways to help our residents rather than trying to find ways to throw
up roadblocks. And I'm not at all convinced by any arguments that
have been made so far by the other side. They just simply are not true.
And I'm ready to proceed with this. And if the AGO opinion and
the subsequent bond - validation process is the way the commissioners
want to go, I'm heartily in support of that.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you have any other questions for
Mr. Pires?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: That wasn't a question.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah, I know, but we're still through
public comments. You know, even that I'm at odds with Mr. Pires, I
respect him.
So do we have any questions, because I would like to get back to
the --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I have a question of Mr. Pires.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Mr. Pires, when was the La
Peninsula community built?
MR. PIRES: Well, there was a bulkhead established -- built back
in the '60s, because there was a bulkhead plat.
COMIlVIISSIONER NANCE: Yes, yes. And when were the
buildings -- when was the construction started and completed and so
on and so forth?
MR. PIRES: In the'70s, and it's been --
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'� UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: 1986.
MR. PIKES: 1986, and it's been going on since then.
COMIVIISSIONER NANCE: It's been going on since 1986. And
wasn't -- didn't it have a serious financial period of time when there
were some buildings occupied and others under construction?
MR. PIRES: A prior developer did and left one of the buildings.
There was a --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: So this has made it pretty --
MR. PIRES: -- statement in reference to that particular building
at the time.
COMMIISSIONER NANCE: This has made it pretty difficult for
people to have a functioning homeowners' association to do common
costs and replacement and reserves and so on and so forth; has it not?
MR. PIRES: It had a number of issues over the years with the
prior developers and other.
COMMIISSIONER NANCE: Yes, okay.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMIVIISSIONER NANCE: That is all.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you, Mr. Pires.
Next speaker?
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker, Jared Grifoni. I've already
called the names of the people who ceded time for him. He'll have 15
minutes.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, just to remind you, you're scheduled
for a court reporter break somewhere in the next 10 minutes.
COMMIISSIONER HILLER: Maybe after he speaks.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: What?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Maybe after he finishes speaking.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah. After Mr. Grifoni speaks, we're
going to take a break.
MR. GRIFONI: Sure. Well, good afternoon, Commissioners.
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It's been about a month since the last time we were here discussing this
issue. A lot of new information has come to light. There's been some
clarification on a lot of issues as well.
I'd like to just briefly touch on some of the prior arguments that
were discussed, just to bring everyone up to speed.
Florida Constitution, first and foremost, Article VII, Section 10,
deals with finance and taxation as well as pledging of credit. It states
specifically, neither the state nor any county shall lend, give, or use its
taxing power to aid any corporation or private entity. That is true.
The Florida Statutes say the same thing. Statute 125, county
powers are defined in 125.01, like Mr. Pires mentioned, also the power
to create MSBUs. Those powers to create MSBUs, fire protection, law
enforcement, beach erosion control, recreational. services, water, street,
sidewalks, things of that nature.
Again, seawalls are not in there. Seawall repair /replacement is
not in there. There's no seawall repair /replacement in that statute. It's
not in the Florida Constitution either.
Escambia County, we talked about that before. They have a
specific policy written out that deals with MSBUs. They're restricted
to public property. They're restricted to property where the public has
equal access at all times.
In addition, they require easements and public property -- or
property dedications prior to going into any type of MSBU.
Code enforcement -- we've talked about those issues; those are all
true. We can't just brush those under the rug. Code enforcement went
down to the La Peninsula seawall multiple times over the past five or
six years, as early -- or as late as May of 2013, just a few months
before this was in front of you all, and they -- and County Engineer
Jack McKenna said that there's no public health and safety concern at
that time, that there's no danger of the seawall collapsing, that it just
needed minor repairs and maintenance.
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We also talked about this ordinance here that, I guess,
Commissioner Henning brought up in the ordinance. You know, really
the question there is who isn't doing their job?
We're talking about a 40 -year life on this seawall, and now all of a
sudden in six months we need to hurry up in and, you know, create a
$4 million project out of thin air that's never been done before in the
state of Florida or in Collier County for this matter. Two hundred
thousand dollars in reserves. That was back in 2012, so I'm wondering
what's happened in the past two years.
And the ordinance itself only speaks of a $250 a day fine,
misdemeanor. It doesn't talk about an entire construction project that's
done under the auspices of the county government.
The precedent that's set here is extremely dangerous. It's never
been done before. Five hundred homeowners' associations in Collier
County alone. If they all came here looking for the same thing, we'd
be adding $2 billion to the county debt.
Now, I understand that the money is paid back specifically by the
benefited property owners, but we can't escape the fact that that money
is owed. And until it is paid in full, it is still owed. It's still going to be
on the county books.
We also know that seawalls always need to be repaired and
replaced over time. Ten to 15 years in some cases, 20 years, 30 years.
So we know that we're going to be back in this same situation, 10 years
from now, 15 years from now if we encourage homeowners'
associations to be fiscally irresponsible and mismanage their funds.
Now, some of the issues that have come up since that time that
have been left out, the county manager, he did send a memo out on
February 3rd, and that was after, Commissioner Hiller, you directed
him to find the primary public purpose in the January 14th meeting.
And I think we need to let that sink in for a moment, because the
BCC passed this ordinance and resolution back in December, and
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we're trying to find a public purpose at the January 14th meeting, and
that memo wasn't completed until February 3rd.
So it's clear that this was passed on the basis of the facts as they
were understood at the time of the original passage back in December,
and it was for the benefit of the property owners of La Peninsula. It
was not for a primary public purpose to protect any of the seawalls or
waterways or anything of that nature. It hadn't even been determined
yet.
We can even see in the text of the memo itself, there are two
items listed. They are listed as possible public concerns. Possible, not
actual, concerns, not purpose. Possible public concerns arising from
the failure of the seawall. But there's also no failure of the seawall in
its current state.
It's notated at the bottom of the memo that there appears to be no
immediate public safety concerns at this time.
So what are the two items that were listed? A loss of tax revenue
due to decrease in property values and public relations concerns. So
talk about opening Pandora's box. Are we going to accept the premise
that a decline in property value is the grant of power necessary to
forego the clear and -- the clear terms of the Florida Constitution and
the Florida Statutes on this matter?
Are we going to start creating hundreds of millions of dollars in
additional debt -- in additional debt because property isn't up to the
standard of maximizing whatever taxable value it may have at any
given time?
If the primary concern -- or is the primary concern of this board
simply securing additional tax revenue rather than limiting
expenditures, debt, and not executing bad public policy?
One of the primary concerns addressed in prior meetings was
over the county having to take an ownership interest in the seawall
during the course -- or during the life of the loan. So if, ultimately,
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we're basing this decision on an after- the -fact determination of taxable
value concerns, should we anticipate the county taking ownership
interest in other seawalls that are actually failing across the county
today? I don't think -- and I'm not -- and I don't think I'm wrong when
I suggest this, but I don't think the voters are going to be happy to find
out that the county has seawall interests all over this -- all over the
county. It simply just doesn't make sense.
Now, we can debate the issues around the MSBU but, ultimately,
it's the BCC that has to make this decision. You need to determine
whether or not this is sound public policy.
Now, I'm also concerned about the issue or the characterization of
this as a failing seawall. I forwarded the BCC an email on January
23rd from county engineer, Jack McKenna. I mentioned that a
moment ago. You may recall that at the 1/14 meeting we talked about
some of the code enforcement issues at the time.
Well, back in May of 2013 -- and Mr. Pires mentioned this briefly
as well, that Dick Van Deelen, the president of the La Peninsula
Master Board, emailed the county engineering asking for confirmation
that the seawall was not -- that there was no evidence or reason to
believe that there was any imminent danger with the seawall, any
imminent safety issue with the seawall.
And the reply was, I have no reason to believe that there is
imminent danger of the wall collapsing. And he also stated that La
Peninsula was proceeding in a good and logical fashion, a good and
logical fashion in seeking riprap repairs to the wall, okay.
So we're talking about a good and logical fashion at the time, and
the good and logical fashion simply is that they were handling this
themselves. It wasn't going through the county government using
county government as a conduit.
Now, the Giblin report that was prepared since the last meeting
has some flaws as well. They state that the special assessment is not a
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tax. Well, that's great. It's not a tax. A special assessment is an
exercise of the taxing power.
So AGO 85 -90 from Marion County, they attempted to levy
special assessments against real property for the purpose of improving
road and drainage improvements.
And in that AGO, it's stated, while special assessments are
distinguishable from taxes, they are levied under the taxing power and
are, in a broad sense, a peculiar species of taxes. So we know MSBUs
are special assessments. They're levied under the taxing power and,
therefore, we need to return to the Florida Constitution, Article VII,
Section 10.
They also cite Statute 170. We keep going back to 170, and that
really interests me, because 170 has to do with municipalities, cities.
Of course, 170 only applies to cities. It doesn't apply to counties.
County powers are under 125. We've discussed this earlier as well.
In the report it was notated that there was -- now, this is from the
Giblin report. It was notated that they were unable to find any cases
addressing these types of improvements or cases with substantially
similar facts. That's because this action by the board is going to set a
precedent for the entire state of Florida. Not just Collier County but
the entire state of Florida.
Now, we talked about essential facilities, municipal services.
Essential facilities, they're commonly defined as those -- the city
government provides, natural monopolies, things like utilities,
transportation facilities. Again, the plain language is clear that it
doesn't apply to seawalls, let alone private seawalls.
Now, the County Attorney, he also issued a legal opinion, and I
thank him for putting that together. He notes that the central issue is
whether or not the proposed project is for a public purpose. There's
both a legal and factual component to that analysis. So what's the legal
component to that analysis cited? We're back to Statute 170 again.
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'� Now, there are multiple issues here that we just need to get ahold
of Title 12 is for municipalities, cities and towns in the state of
Florida, chartered cities and towns in the state of Florida. 170 simply
doesn't apply to counties. It applies only to chartered cities. Collier
County's, of course, not a chartered city. Isles of Capri isn't a chartered
city. La Peninsula's a private entity. So the language is clear.
Now, what we need to remember is that we're dealing with three
separate things. We're dealing with city powers, we're dealing with
county powers, and we're dealing with MSBU authority. Now, city
powers, in 170 it does mention reconstruction of seawalls, but that's
still different from the county powers and even more different than
what can be done under an MSBU.
MSBUs are even more limited, of course, than whatever the
county can do. It's simple.
Another AGO that was cited, 2002 -48, I think, again, that's being
misapplied here. 2002 -48, the question that was asked to the attorney
general at the time was may the County Commission expend public
funds to provide private communities with services such as the repair
and maintenance of privately owned roads and related infrastructure.
And they give the example sidewalks, streetlighting, stormwater
systems, landscaping, and water and sewer.
Now, that list is actually from the Florida Statutes. And because
the statutes are clear on what can and can't be done, seawalls simply
just aren't there. They didn't just pull those out of a hat. They actually
just mention the ones that are specifically delineated within statute.
So counties and MSBUs can do things, but they can only do
things that they are authorized to do. Seawalls, again, are not in there.
Now, I'm not making this up. I'm -- I trust that the commission
has been able to go and look at the statutes themselves, because it's
very, very clear.
Now, he also cites, the County Attorney, 90 -37, which deals with
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the city of Palm Beach -- the city of Palm Beach. Now, again, that's
under 170, not 125. It refers to a -- the public purpose, however,
needing to be paramount, and we don't have that here. We don't have a
paramount public purpose.
But one thing we can take from 90 -37 is that the public purpose is
something that's determined by the legislative body; in this case, of
course the Board of County Commissioners.
So it seems that maybe there's an attitude amongst some of the
members of the BCC that we should just simply pump the issue either
to a bond - validation hearing or to an AGO. And the fact is, even if we
do seek that method, it's going to come back to your decision today.
So the responsibility is going to fall on the board. If this is a
public policy that the board wants to go forward with, then it's going to
be a board policy. It's not going to be Pam Bondi's opinion. It's not
going to be the bond - validation hearing. It's going to come back to this
decision today.
Now, two years later, there was another AGO, 92 -31, and it stated
that the state constitution prohibits municipalities or other agencies for
using their taxing power to aid any private interest.
And the purpose of that provision, the constitutional provision, is
to protect public funds and resources from being exploited and
assisting or promoting private ventures when the public would only be
incidentally benefited.
It's only when there is some clearly identified and concrete public
purpose as the primary objective that the municipality may exercise its
taxing power. Again, we don't have that here.
And it also states that even though the tax may -- would only be
imposed on the property owners who primarily benefit, the fact is that
the tax -- the fact that the tax is limited does not mean that it's not an
exercise of the city's taxing power so, therefore, again, it has to fall
under the purview of the constitutional provisions.
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So just very quickly I'd like to also address some of the issues that
Mr. Pires brought up -- Mr. Pires, excuse me -- with respect to the
CRA: The CRA is a completely different statute. It has nothing to do
with what we're doing here today. The CRA has a very, very specific
procedure on how those are approved. Resolutions must be passed,
and they must have certain things in those resolutions, and also we're
talking with the CRA as a redevelopment of a slum or blighted area.
So I'm -- I don't think that La Peninsula really fits that definition,
and I certainly don't think that there's a physical or economic condition
conducive to disease, infant mortality, juvenile delinquency, poverty,
or crime because of a preponderance of -- or predominance of
buildings or improvements, whether residential or nonresidential in
that area, and then I certainly don't think it's a blighted area as well.
That was the definition of a slum in the statute.
So the goals of the CRA are completely different than what we're
talking about here with La Peninsula.
Now, as I mentioned earlier, we don't have that clearly identified
in concrete public purpose. If anything, it was after the fact, and it's
still -- it's not -- it's concrete. What we have is wishy -washy
after -the -fact maybes, ifs, buts, when's, and possibles and, to me, that
is -- that's nothing, to put it bluntly, nothing that justify what's going on
here today.
We can't pump this issue to a bond - validation hearing or to an
AGO. They all, like I said, are going to come back to the decision of
the board.
So if you vote against rescinding this, you'll be expanding
government, setting a bad precedent, opening Pandora's box,
encouraging fiscal irresponsibility and mismanagement amongst other
condo associations, homeowners' associations, knowing that this is
going to be available to them in the future, and you'll be completely
ignoring the plain language of the Florida Statutes and the Florida
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Constitution, stretching them beyond anything remotely intended at the
time that they were passed.
So what is, perhaps, even more telling is not only that -- does La
Peninsula seem to be hoping for a bailout here by the county, but I'm
worried that, perhaps, County Commissioners are also hoping for a
bailout themselves, a bailout of responsibility on this issue by punting
it to another board.
Own this decision, because this is your policy, and it's your
determination. It's going to come back here no matter what.
So I ask you to please do the right thing today, vote to rescind this
ordinance and resolution, and let's get this done and let's move on and
let's continue to fight for good government, smaller government within
the confines of our statutes and constitution.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. We're going to take a break.
But before we -- does anybody -- any of the commissioners have a
problem with entering in the record the county engineer's email?
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: No, and I --
COMIVIISSIONER FIALA: No.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: -- think we should also introduce
this ordinance.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. I agree with you.
COMIVIISSIONER HILLER: Ordinance eighty -five two (sic)
and --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. We're on 10- minute break.
COMIlVIISSIONER HILLER: If there are any other -- Mr.
Casalanguida?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: We're on a break.
COMNIISSIONER HILLER: I know.
(A brief recess was had.)
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, you have a live mic.
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Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Hiller, you have some
questions of Mr. Grifoni?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you, yes.
The first thing -- Mr. Grifoni, thank you for your presentation.
You're a very good speaker.
MR. GRIFONI: Thank you.
CONMSSIONER FIALA: The microphone.
COMVIISSIONER HILLER: Yes, forgive me.
Mr. Grifoni, thank you for speaking. You made a very nice
presentation.
The first thing I think I would like to raise is that the issue with
respect to whether or not seawalls serve a primary public purpose
seems to have been -- to have been established by this board back
when this ordinance was passed in 1985 relating to the repair and
replacement of seawalls. I think the real question before us today is,
you know, to what extent this seawall needs to be repaired, and that's
really an evidentiary question.
And so what I've done is I've asked our county staff, Mr.
Casalanguida, to provide this board with all the emails Mr. McKenna
has written on this subject and also to provide any and all reports
prepared by any of the professionals that have submitted reports on the
repair of this seawall to the county.
And I think that information will be very important, because the
question really is, you know, should this seawall be repaired or
replaced? And, you know, what is the cost - benefit analysis between
repairing it for a shorter -- for the benefit of a shorter period of time
versus replacing it now and having, you know, a longer life ahead of
that larger expenditure.
In any event, you know, it isn't true that our determination will be
the final determination. If we go -- if we reach the point that a
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determination is made by this board based on the evidence presented to
us, that this wall needs to be either repaired or replaced and that that
cost needs to be financed, then bond counsel has made it clear that
they're not going to move this forward without a bond - validation
hearing.
So your concern as to whether or not there is a valid public
purpose would be determined by the Court, because the Court could
find that the determination we made is not correct. It's not -- we don't
have absolute discretion in that, and that is something I spoke to the
County Attorney about.
So your concern would basically be satisfied by the Court's
determination that what we are doing does or does not serve a valid
public purpose, which is your concern.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you have any other questions?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'm very -- I want to address his
comments, because he made some very important points that I think
need to be --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: --discussed.
So I think, you know, you raise very good questions, and I think
those questions are properly asked and should properly be answered,
but I think, ultimately, the answer is going to come from and -- from
the courts through that bond - validation hearing.
Because, again, you know, it's nice that we can get an AG
opinion, and I think that is the first step in the process, but it is
nonbinding, as you properly pointed out.
And this is a very important issue, and it does go to the issue as
to, if you do have these homeowner associations that fail to repair their
seawalls, what action do we, as a board, have the right to take to
protect public health, safety, and welfare.
And there is no question it does appear that -- like, La Peninsula
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failed to do what it should have done, which is build adequate reserves.
And I don't know enough about homeowner association law to opine
as to, you know -- you know, how they breached the law in failing to
do that.
We're not rescuing them. We are upholding our responsibility to
safeguard the public's safety, and we have a legal mechanism to do
that, and this is an essential facility.
So I really want to thank you for bringing your questions forward
because you have raised a lot of very valid concerns that, I agree with
you, have to be asked and answered. So I, you know, applaud you for
raising the issue.
But it isn't the intent to expand government. It's really our
obligation to protect the public, because I'm against big government, as
you know, as you are.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Any other questions?
COMMIISSIONER FIALA: Yes.
COM.MIISSIONER NANCE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Go ahead.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: --Nance.
COMIlVIISSIONER NANCE: Yes.
Mr. Grifoni, what do you think of the current MSTUs and
MSBUs we have in Collier County?
MR. GRIFONI: I don't have any problems with MSTUs or
MSBUs, currently created ones or future created ones, so long as
they're within the confines of the law and they're done with the correct
mechanisms.
This one, I think, is somewhat different simply because of the
private nature of it as well as the concern over whether or not there's a
valid public purpose, a paramount public purpose.
But I think what we've seen in other MSTUs, MSBUs across the
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county is that they're different; they're different in various respects than
this one, and I think that the evidence for that simply is in the report
that we received that stated that they couldn't find any other facts or
any other cases with a similar set of facts comparable to this one, and
they said that the determination by the bond - validation hearing couldn't
be predicted, and there's a reason for that; it's because this has never
been done before in this specific type of instance.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Do you think there are any of the
current MSTUs or MSBUs that have anything other than an incidental
public benefit?
MR. GRIFONI: I'm unaware of any particular MSBU or MSTU
that -- where there wouldn't be a -- within the bounds of the law, that it
wasn't created under the correct statute and correct --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: There were corrected, but I think if
you'll examine carefully the existing MSTUs and MSBUs, you'll find
out that the grand majority of them have a very incidental public
benefit. They've usually been enabled by government to do something
that the applicants either want or in some cases need. But as far as a
public benefit, I think most of it is a stretch.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Really?
MR. GRIFONI: You very well may be right on that. And, in
fact, you know, I just don't think that's an excuse to continue doing
something wrong if -- you know, just because we've done it before in
the past. And I'm not suggesting you've done that.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I just wondered if you were
opposing the current MSTUs and MSBUs that we have.
MR. GRIFONI: I'm not aware of any particular MSTU or MSBU
that's currently in existence in Collier County that is not done within
the purview of the statutes, whether it's landscaping, streets, sidewalks,
lighting, utilities, drainage, things of that nature. If there's something
else beyond that, I would love to know about it, but I'm not aware of it
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at this time.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: No. We're going to go to
Commissioner Fiala and then back to the public speakers.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, okay, fine. Thank you.
The way I understand it --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Oh, Commissioner Coyle.
COMIlVIISSIONER FIALA: Okay -- with the MSBU is you
really don't know what you need to get done until you have a study; is
that correct? Because you don't know whether the wall needs to be
replaced, repaired, how far it is, if just certain segments need to be
repaired or what. Isn't that the case?
So, of course, you don't know how much we're even talking about
until the study is done; is that correct?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. I just wanted to make that
clear because it seems that the numbers are being thrown out, but I
don't think that you folks even know yet what you need until you have
divers go down and take a look.
Okay, thank you. I just wanted to clear that up.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Again, do we have any
questions or comments to Mr. Grifoni? Otherwise, we're going to get
back to public speakers.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yeah. I have a question for Mr.
Grifoni.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. If I understood you
correctly, you said that the Constitution and Florida Statutes won't
permit us to do this; is that correct?
MR. GRIFONI: I believe that under the Florida Constitution and
the Florida Statutes, based on some of the court cases out there, as well
,-� as the various AGO opinions, would indicate that this type of -- this
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type of MSBU would not be approved simply because there isn't a '1
primary or paramount public purpose.
COMIlVIISSIONER COYLE: And who do you think determines
the primary public purpose?
MR. GRIFONI: The Board of County Commissioners.
COMMIISSIONER COYLE: And if we determine that there was
a primary public purpose, would you argue with us?
MR. GRIFONI: I mean, sure. I mean -- well, I think that's why
I'm here is -- I mean, this was -- this was passed. This was passed by
the board back in December for some type of public purpose that we're
unaware of until February 3rd.
But, yeah, I mean, depending on what type of public purpose -- I
mean, we could argue that there was a public purpose because you,
you know, one person decided to walk on the seawall today. I mean --
but does that -- does that encompass the paramount public purpose, the
nature? So -- ^
COMMIISSIONER COYLE: I'm --
MR. GRIFONI: I mean, it would be -- you know, a variety of
factors would have to be considered.
COMIlMIISSIONER COYLE: So you're saying that the
Constitution or Florida Statutes won't permit us to do it unless we find
a valid public purpose?
MR. GRIFONI: Well, there needs to be a valid public purpose,
but it also needs to still be within the bounds of the law. And the law,
as it states in 125, does not indicate that seawall -- seawall
repair /replacement is allowed under the MSBU or the county powers.
But, again, you know, we've had some discussions on that earlier.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: You made the observation, I think,
that municipalities have the authority to do this. So, now, can you
explain to me how or why a state constitution would prohibit a county
government from doing something but allow a city to do the same
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thing?
MR. GRIFONI: Sure. Well, I mean, just the plain language of
the statutes themselves indicate that. I believe in the January meeting I
brought that up and, I mean, I think when they were drafting the
Florida Constitution and the Florida Statutes, they specifically didn't
decide to list that power under the county government, under 125,
when they specifically did under 170. That could have been changed
in any number of times. It wasn't.
I also think that just because a city has the power to do so, it still
needs to, again, be within the public purpose, and there is no question,
really directly, of whether or not it's a public seawall or a private
seawall. The statute isn't clear on that. I would assume, based on the
rest of the statutes, that it's talking specifically about public seawalls,
that cities can do things with public seawalls. Again, it's just a little
different than what we have here.
CON WISSIONER COYLE: You see, here's my problem. I just
can't imagine a constitution that would say you, city, have the authority
to do this, but you, county, don't have the authority to do this.
I cannot understand the purpose of a constitutional provision that
would reach that conclusion, and I cannot understand why anyone
would interpret it that way.
MR. GRIFONI: Sure. I mean, ultimately, that's a question you'd
have to take up with the legislators why they left it in 170 and didn't
put it in 125. But, you know, I think the concern here is whether or not
-- I mean, we're looking at the law as it stands.
And we also saw in the Giblin's report that there's been no other
cases with substantially similar facts that has -- is similar to what we
have here today.
So, again, we have hundreds and hundreds and thousands of miles
of coastline in the Collier County -- I mean the state of Florida, we
have canals all through Collier County, all through the state, and that
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there hasn't been one instance in 50, 609 70 years that someone has
decided to create or use an MSBU to repair or replace a private
seawall.
I mean, otherwise, we wouldn't be here today. Just, the facts don't
exist, so that's why this is a new precedent. From what I've been able
to tell, and I think what the County Attorney has been able to find, as
well as the outside counsel report, is that this just simply hasn't been
done before.
So there's -- I think, ultimately, there has to be a reason for that.
And I think based on the facts and the discussion that I've been able to
present today and prior, there's a clear reason for that, and I think it's
simply because the law just doesn't allow it in this current state.
CONIlMIISSIONER COYLE: I think that's probably an incorrect
interpretation.
I think the -- what they said was that it hasn't been litigated. They
cannot find any case where something like this has been litigated, but I
understood that there were a number of places where this had been
done. As a matter of fact, I think we've done things that are similar.
If one looks hard enough, you might find a period that is slightly
different or a comma that's in a different place, but the essential
elements are the same.
But that's -- and the other thing I would -- you indicated that the
people hadn't been doing their jobs or else they would have
accumulated enough money to do this.
I don't think it serves anybody's purpose to try to punish current
residents because people in the past might not have created a large
enough reserve to do this thing.
So that having happened -- and we cannot undo that -- I don't
think that we, as a Board of County Commissioners, should try to
punish them for letting that occur.
I think our job is to help them solve the problem and -- but that's
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'"*N all I have to say, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Can we go back to public
speakers?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I address this last point made
by Mr. Grifoni and Mr. -- Commissioner Coyle, because it's important.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Is it going to change the outcome of
what we're going to do today?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, I think it's very important to
clarify something for the record relating to Chapter 125, because I
think there is -- I don't think this very important point has been made
clearly on the record.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: That we can do -- it's not limited to
these repairs. I understand you want to get this done.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's related to the comments made
by both parties.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Go ahead.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Mr. Grifoni, you said that 125
doesn't provide any mechanism for this seawall repair to be financed
through an MSTU.
MR. GRIFONI: It's not explicitly listed.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Actually, what the -- what Chapter
125 makes very clear under 125.01(Q) is that after listing with
specificity, you know, a number of items, it goes on to say, and other
essential facilities and municipality services from funds derived from
services charges, special assessments, or tax within such unit only.
It is very clear, and then it goes on to say subject to the consent by
the ordinance of the governing body of the affected, you know, and so
forth.
So the point being is that it does make clear that that list is not
limited to only what is enumerated but goes on to provide that MSTUs
can be used to fund essential facilities and municipal services, so --
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MR. GRIFONI: Right.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- this is -- the question, again,
whether or not a seawall is an essential facility is a determination that
this board has already made and has absolutely, going back to 1985,
made the determination that seawalls do serve a primary public
purpose, and it's enumerated in that ordinance, and that ordinance, as
you know, as a matter, of law, is deemed to be valid until and unless it's
overturned by a court of law.
So we have law that clearly establishes the primary public
purpose of seawalls, and we have a statute that clearly provides that we
are allowed to I create MSTUs for essential facilities.
MR. GRIFONI: Sure.
CONMSSIONER HILLER: So I don't think it's true that -- and
I have to agree with Commissioner Coyle. I don't think it's true that
125 does not allow for the repair or replacement of a seawall such as
the one that's before us.
MR. GRIFONI: Yeah. I mean, the issue --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Mr. Grifoni, I don't think it's really
going to matter.
MR. GRIFONI: Sure.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: There is a burning desire by the
majority of the commissioners to fund the seawall, okay?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, no.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So let's move on to the rest of the
speakers.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Not a burning desire.
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Keith Flaugh. He'll
be followed by Peter Richter.
MR. FLAUGH: Good afternoon. My name is Keith Flaugh. I'm
one of the members of a group called the Southwest Florida Citizens
Alliance. And we've, without exception, put together a resolution that
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represents the view of our hundred -plus people on this particular issue
that I would like to read into the record.
A resolution of the Southwest Florida Citizens Alliance in support
of rescinding the resolution and ordinance creating the MSBU for La
Peninsula seawall.
Whereas, the Southwest Florida Citizens Alliance is a grass -roots
coalition of citizens and groups united to advance the ideas and
principles of liberty including but not limited to individual rights, free
markets, and limited government through education outreach and
community involvement; and,
Whereas, the Southwest Florida Citizens Alliance focuses on
three areas by providing a platform for citizen -- educating the citizens
on moral foundations that support the principles and values of a free
society involving citizens in learning about, discussing, and
influencing legislation, vetting candidates for office and then holding
them accountable for their official conduct; and,
Whereas, the Southwest Florida Citizens Alliance is currently
comprised of over 100 activist community leaders from over 30
different groups and organizations throughout the county dedicated to
the principles of limited government, economic freedom, and
individual rights, and those leaders represent and influence thousands
of voters in Collier County; and,
Whereas, the Southwest Florida Citizens Alliance has been
following closely the creation of La Peninsula MSBU as well as the
petition to rescind the ordinance and resolution; and,
Whereas, it is the petition -- position of the Southwest Florida
Citizens Alliance that there are numerous constitutional and legal
concerns with respect to the validity of La Peninsula MSBU in
addition to the concern expressed in various attorney general opinions
and reports from Collier County Code Enforcement with respect to the
condition of the seawall, and that the -- this is an important part -- and
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that the creation of an MSBU violates the principles of fiscal
responsibility and limited county government.
Whereas, it is the position of Southwest Florida Citizens Alliance,
in accordance with our stated principles and platform, that the Board of
County Commissioners must vote to rescind the Ordinance 2013 -70
and Resolution 2013 -292.
And now, therefore, be it resolved by the Florida Citizens
Alliance that we call upon the county Board of County Commissioners
to immediately favor -- vote in favor of rescinding both of these
ordinance and resolutions.
Be it further resolved that the county shall not further entertain
any future efforts by La Peninsula or other private entity that calls
upon the county to lend or use its taxing power to credit -- to the credit
or aid of any corporation, association, or partnership or person.
And, finally, be it further resolved that the Board of County
Commissioners of Collier County shall draft and adopt a clear policy
on the use and creation of MSBUs with the primary purpose of
limiting the use of MSBUs to maintenance improvement and public
record property -- and benefit of public property with equal and open
access to all members of the public for the specific areas, facilities, and
items listed in the statute 125.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you, Mr. Flaugh.
Next speaker?
MR. MILLER: Your next public speaker is Peter Richter. He'll
be followed by Ray Netherwood.
MR. RICHTER: Hi, thank you. I'm not an -- I'm not an attorney,
like everyone else that's been speaking, just about, today, but so I'm not
here to argue the law. I'm here to explain something that I think a lot
of people may not realize, is that it seems like we are setting a
precedent, and it would seem to me that governments have a
responsibility to treat everyone equally and not to provide preferential
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treatment to one community over another or one individual over
another.
And so I don't see what's stopping future situations like this from
coming to the board and saying, hey, you know, we didn't repair our
seawall or we didn't repair a roof; we need some help. This is, you
know, a terrible situation, and you know, where is it ever going to
stop?
I think it's -- I think it's -- it's -- we've had enough bailouts in this
country. We've had enough bailouts to last us a lifetime, and we're
looking at one right here, and we can stop it right here.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I ask you a question? Why
are you calling this a bailout? We're not giving any public funds to --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Please -- let's not interrupt --
MR. RICHTER: Well, it's interesting that you say that, because
something I heard earlier --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- the speakers.
MR. RICHTER: -- it sounded like there was going to be an
advisory board created to then determine the benefit for the community
and then the benefit for the public, right?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No.
MR. RICHTER: And so wouldn't that board, then, be able to say,
well, because the -- you've already determined that there's a public
purpose, now -- so the -- clearly the county's benefitting. Why doesn't
the county foot part of the bill, maybe half of the bill?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No.
MR. RICHTER: You know, there's a huge incentive to come to
the county, I think, which I think is the -- really the wrong way to do it.
I was -- I was on board -- I was the president of a board in Miami
Beach, and we had to repair our seawall. We didn't -- we didn't get
any help from the city, and it sounded like they could have done it, but
they chose not to.
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In fact, at the same time they were forcing us to open up our bay
walk to the public. So they were taking away something from us, and
they were going to be using, essentially, our seawall and opening it up
to the public, and they still chose not to help us in any way.
And then when we fought them to try to keep our boardwalk
closed, they said, well, if you don't open it, you'll have a $ 1 0,000-a-day
fine.
So I think maybe, instead of -- instead of putting all of the county
at risk, maybe what you ought to do is use your power to get them to
fix it on their own.
And I still haven't heard a great argument or even a decent one
why they don't just go to the bank and do it themselves like we did.
There's no bank that had any problem giving us a loan to -- for -- a
million - dollar loan to repair our seawall. They were happy to do it.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN ]HENNING: Thank you.
Next speaker.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Ray Netherwood. He'll be
followed by Victor Rios.
MR. NETHERWOOD: I'll be short and brief.
In two- and -a -half hours, almost, is this what you really want to be
doing moving forward every time a condo community has a problem,
meetings like this, studies? I think the county ordinance puts the issue
of seawall maintenance on private property owners. If these are
private property owners, then the onus is on them.
This board should not have to go through this with hundreds of
condominiums and homeowners' associations in Collier County.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Victor Rios. He'll be
followed by Jim Gault.
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MR. RIOS: Will you pass this along, please, for the benefit of the
board.
Good afternoon. My name is Victor Rios. I live at 970 Cape
Marco Drive, Unit 548, Marco Island, Florida. I would like to thank
the commissioners for allowing me to speak on this issue.
Now, a little background that hasn't been mentioned here. Now,
I'm not as eloquent as my predecessors, Mr. Grifoni or Mr. Pires. I'm
not an attorney. I happen to be an engineer, so I like detail, so I got a
little information.
I took the time to go to La Peninsula and take pictures, which I've
given you. I have a little story I will explain (sic).
Okay. La Peninsula have more than 500 condo -- I mean, not La
Peninsula. The Collier County have more than 500 condo and
condominium associations. And, by the way, they are governed by
two different laws, statutes. Condominium associations, it's 718,
Florida Statute 718, and HOAs are 720, and I happen to be the director
and president of one condominium board and the director of the master
board where I live. So I have a little bit of information, okay.
I provided you with the picture. The pictures were taken last
week on February the 7th of 2014, so that's just four days ago.
La Peninsula on Isles of Capri is not a poor area of Collier County
at all, okay. So I take issue with one of the commissioners saying
about people not having the money to repair.
I took the time to look at listings, okay. How many open listings
are in La Peninsula? There may be more, you know, but a realtor
friend of mine gave me the current listings, pricing ranging there from
450- to 700,000, okay, for sale.
In addition, Isles of Capri, there's homes for sale, okay, ranging
from 350- to $3.5 million. Hardly a blighted area, a poor area, or area
where people do not have money to afford repair on their own
buildings or facilities.
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La Peninsula has 164 units, according to the information I have. I
may be wrong, but that's what I was able to obtain through realtor
information.
There are several buildings, and they have very many luxury
amenities. They have a pool, spa, fitness room, sauna, et cetera.
Monthly fees, currently, I was told they are roughly 700 a month
which, if you multiply times the number of units, they collect about
$1.4 million, okay.
And I also have read, like was mentioned here, that repairs or
rebuilding the seawall is $4 million. That seems to me a very high
price, because I've done it before. I have undertaken the repair of a
very large seawall and riprap. We added 9,000 tons of riprap to the
complex where I lived. That's a lot of riprap, okay.
And I took a walk, and you see the pictures I gave you. I find
very little deterioration. And I've seen the engineer report that was
presented proves that point, okay, and I'm sure there's some cracks and
fixing that needed to be done.
I think I have three minutes yielded to me by some other member
that you have there, that he said yielded to me three minutes.
I feel to qualify (sic) about this, again, because I'm a director of a
condo association.
MR. MILLER: I do not have any such sheet --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yeah.
MR. MILLER: -- Mr. Rios.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Mr. Rios, you need to wrap up,
because you've exceeded your --
MR. RIOS: Well, I was here when the person handed the piece of
paper granting me the extra three minutes. I don't know what
happened to it. He says -- he wrote it, and I said okay.
MR. NETHERWOOD: I thought that I was given extra time,
because I had originally ceded time to Mr. Rios.
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CHAIRMAN HENNING: No. Everybody gets three minutes.
MR. RIOS: Well, since he didn't use the three minutes, can I use
his remaining time?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: He already spoke, sir.
MR. RIOS: Oh. All right. Okay.
Leaving that, the only thing I'm going to mention, the county
manager report, okay. You going to have to add in loss of tax revenue
in the likely event that buildings were damaged and the property
devalued, the time to lose the revenue (sic).
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Mr. Rios.
MR. RIOS: Yep.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: I'm sorry. You have -- your time has
expired.
MR. RIOS: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: All right. I'm sorry.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Jim Gault. He'll be followed
by Kathleen Bruns.
MR. GAULT: Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, I'm going to
waive my right to speak. We've talked about this for three hours.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Right, I agree.
MR. MILLER: Ms. Bruns?
MS. BRUNS: And I also waive my time.
MR. MILLER: Those were your final two speakers, Mr.
Chairman.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. I think Commissioner Hiller,
Commissioner Nance, then Commissioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I wanted to address Mr. Richter's
comments. He had discussed advisory boards and what that advisory
board might try to do. The role of the advisory board is to give input
to the Board of County Commissioners. The Board of County
.-� Commissioners is the only body that has the authority to make the
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determination as to the extent of any expenditure, you know, how that '-'
expenditure will be funded and, you know, what assessments will be
levied.
The advisory board has absolutely no legal authority with respect
to any of those three questions. So your concerns have no merit.
As far as the cost to repair or replace this seawall, if the
determination is made that it is -- it should be considered because the
AG comes back and says that what we have done so far is legally
correct, that will be, again, an evidentiary question that will be decided
based on evidence presented to the board by staff. We have requested
all the information they have.
You know, if no immediate repairs are necessary, there won't be
any assessments. If it's determined that there's no need to replace that
wall, it will not be replaced. I mean, we are not going to approve an
expenditure that is unnecessary.
And, again, it's only -- it goes to the issue of public health, safety,
and welfare. If there is no public health, safety, or welfare concern,
we're not going to do anything at all; no need.
So I just want to put your mind at rest. And I'm very sorry to hear
what happened to you down in Miami. It sounds to me that you had a
government that took your property without fair compensation, and I'm
sorry to hear that that happened to you.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Commissioner Nance?
COMIlVIISSIONER NANCE: No further comments, Mr.
Chairman.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Fiala?
COMIlVIISSIONER FIALA: Yes. I just wanted to make note that
we as a County Commission really try and support our members of our
community. We try and work with them. When they want to better
themselves, we want to support that effort.
We worked together to try and -- I mean, many of the
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commissioners have had issues each in their own communities, and
we've tried to support them and encourage a better community and let
our citizens know that we do care about their needs.
And I wanted to also say that Tim Durham showed me something
like this. I don't know if you showed anybody else this, but would you
like to just show people this real quickly or something?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: What is it?
CHAIRMAN HENNING: It's a pretty map.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: This is for the people who don't
believe the seawall can fall in.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You mean the seawall falling in?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes, the seawall falling in.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: If that's okay. I -- you know, if that's
all right with you.
MR. DURHAM: Just, basically, I had some visuals that support
the memo that I produced, based on the commissioners' request, the
county staff come forward with the public purpose.
If I may, I'll make it very, very quick. There's only about four or
five pictures I'd like to show.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Is there a reason why that wasn't
delivered to the board? The board asked for information. Is there a
reason why you didn't provide that in an email?
MR. DURHAM: Yeah. I didn't get it til very late Friday,
Commissioner.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: After you wrote the memo?
MR. DURHAM: After the memo was written. There wasn't time
to put it in on the agenda.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Is this really -- Commissioner Fiala,
does this really make a difference of what we're doing right now?
We're going for an AGO. Is there something that maybe he can email
us?
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COMIVIISSIONER FIALA: Well, I don't know that we would be
able to see from this.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Put it on the viewer.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It doesn't take long.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It's just interesting --
MR. DURHAM: I have them -- I can put them on the screen
there.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: By the way, that's not Tim Durham's.
Let's not confuse that.
COMIVIISSIONER COYLE: Okay.
COMIVIISSIONER FIALA: Thanks. This is interesting.
MR. DURHAM: Okay. And I'll make this very, very quick. The
information I used to base my memo on was essentially relying on the
Corps of Army Engineers out of Jacksonville.
And I don't claim to be an expert on seawalls or tidal forces or
anything like that, but I did -- that was my starting place, looking into
the history when Collier County started dredging these waterways
back in the 1930s. And my initial question was to them, given that --
the fact that this seawall was built in 1969, was did the Corps have
anything to do with it, whether it was permitting or anything else.
And one of the things that kind of I started uncovering -- and I
asked questions about how would these things fail, and what would
that look like, et cetera. This is Collier County's coastline in 1975.
And as you see there, in front of La Peninsula, due west of it, there's a
barrier island, which was called Coconut Island. And back at the time,
you know, that afforded some of the tidal protection that would hit La
Peninsula. So -- okay. So that's 1975.
Fast forward. This is 2003. Those barrier islands are almost
gone.
Then coming forward to 2012, they're no longer there. And in --
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you know, in March of 2013, the board heard testimony from Coastal
Engineering and approved an executive summary regarding Hideaway
Beach. And earlier it was described that the tidal forces in this area are
very dynamic, and that's true. The amount of sand that's shifted and
pulled from this particular area is terrific.
So what's that have to do with anything, these tidal forces? Well,
this is how a seawall will fail or can fail, and this is, again, from the
Corps of Army Engineer folks. It might only take one panel, one panel
separating from the seawall, and what happens is these tidal forces are
constant. They're an irresistible force that keeps working morning,
noon, and night.
In fact, they were telling me the biggest danger is in a storm
event, because excess water is pushed over the barrier. It's the constant
working and undermining.
So if a panel in a seawall fails, what likely happens there, it starts
taking away the earth that supports that seawall and starting to
undermine the earth around that area.
And the thing that's a little bit unique about the La Peninsula
situation -- and let's look at -- this is the 400 condominium block at La
Peninsula. They're 20 feet from the seawall. So if -- the argument
would go like this: If the seawall fails, the foundation starts to shift.
The first thing that would likely occur would be structural damage to
these buildings. They told me this would be gradual. It would be over
a period of time.
So the likelihood of an instantaneous collapse that would dump
these into the waterway or cause human (sic) life would be very
unlikely. But the first thing you would see is an undermining of the
foundations causing structural damage to these units.
Just that one block, the 400 block, has a taxable value of 6.2
million. There's seven of those blocks in the La Peninsula area.
And that's just -- that's what I'd prepared.
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CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
MR. DURHAM: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: There's a motion and a second on the
floor. All in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Opposed?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion carries 4 -1; Commissioner
Fiala against the motion.
Now, the issue on the agenda, let's get to that, whether to rescind
the ordinance and resolution.
Is there a motion to rescind the resolution or a motion (sic)?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HENNING: And I'll make a motion to do so. Is
there a second?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. The motion fails. So we still
need to take action on the item on the agenda.
So, again, it's the burning desire of the majority to fund this. So
you want to make the motion, Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. I think it's inappropriate to
jump to that conclusion. The opinion of the Attorney General's Office
will guide us as to whether --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you want to continue this item?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, we're -- there's nothing to
continue. What -- the motion to rescind this ordinance failed. If for
some reason the determination is made by the courts that funding this
doesn't serve a valid public purpose, then, you know, obviously it's not
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a valid ordinance.
If the determination is made by the board after getting the
evidence from staff that there's no need for any repairs, there's not
going to be any funding even if it does serve a valid public purpose.
So, you know, I think it's premature to take any action because we
need both a -- we need -- first we need the evidence and -- as to, you
know, what we are really talking about in terms of necessary repairs, if
any at all and, secondly, we need a court opinion as well as the AG's
opinion as to whether what we are doing is legally valid.
So at this point in time, you know, leaving the ordinance as -is
doesn't mean that at some point in time it may, you know, become
moot because it's not --
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- either not necessary or not
legally valid.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Let's ask our County Attorney on
reconsideration of past items. What is the process?
MR. KLATZKOW: This one's a little different because you've
got a valid ordinance that's on the books right now. If you do not want
to rescind that ordinance, it stays on the books. You don't have to do
anything right now.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So can we reconsider at a later time?
MR. KLATZKOW: I think when the AGO opinion comes down
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Absolutely.
MR. KLATZKOW: -- that would be the time to do it.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Exactly. I agree.
MR. KLATZKOW: You're the -- you're the governing body of
the MSBU, okay. You can always make the decision we're not
funding this.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So the action would be not fund it
instead of repealing the ordinance, or can we repeal the ordinance at a
later date?
MR. KLATZKOW: You can always repeal the ordinance; not a
problem.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Always.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: So do we really need to take any
action?
MR. KLATZKOW: No, you've taken your action.
CHAIRMAN HENNING: I'll take a motion to adjourn then.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay, second.
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ORDINANCE NO. 85- 1
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE CONSTRUCTION, RECON-
STRUCT40N, REPAIR, ALTERATION, PROJECTION AND
J ° PROL09CATION OF SEAWALLS AND REVETMENTS IN THE
UN DICORPORATED AREAS OF COLLIER COUNTY1 PROVIDING
DErINXTIONSt PROVIDING THAT A FAILED SEAWALL OR
REY&MENT IS UNLAWFUL AND A PUBLIC NUISANCE;
i� PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT JURISDICTION BY AMEND -
ei ING SECTION THREE, SUBSECTION 2 OF ORDINANCE NO.
83M44''TO PROVIDE THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
0n COLLIER COUNTY SHALL HAVE JURISDICTION TO HEAR
' AND DECIDE ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE;
PROVIDING FOR OTHER ENFORCEMENT REMEDIES AND PENAL -
TIES; PROVIDING TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR SEA-
WALLS AND REVETMENTS; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT AND
SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS, there are many areas in the County which are
adjacent to natural or man -made bodies of water; and
WHEREAS, many of these areas adjacent to bodies of water are
bordered by seawalls and revetments; and
WHEREAS, properly designed and constructed seawalls and
revetments serve to protoct waterfront upland property and
improvements locatod thereon against wave attack and serve to
stabilize the position of the shoreline; and ,
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WHEREAS, seawalls and revetments have a tendency to fail and
fall into bodies of water becauso of the passage of tine, strong;
winds, heavy rains, erosion, corrosion, and high and low tides
among other reasono; and -
WHEREAS, seawalls and revetments which have failed or
collapsed are a hazard to navigation in navigable bodira of water
and a hazard to drainage and flood control in non - navigable
bodies of water; and
WHEREAS, a failed seawall or revetment with accompanying
loss of fill, unless promptly replaced or repaired, may cause
continuing loss of soil on adjoining properties which can
seriously and adversely affect the stability of seawalls and
revetments on those adjoining properties as well as the value of
adjoining properties; and
WHEREAS, a failed seawall or revetment deprives adjoining
property owners of the additional strength that derives from the
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common benefit of a continguous seawall or revetment; and
WHEREAS, individual property owners are presently respon-
sible for maintenance, repair, and replacement of seawalls and
revetments along their propertyl and
WHEREAS, there presently exists a threat to public health,
safety, and welfare because of the failure of some individual
property owners to maintain, repair, or replace their failed
seawalls or revetments)
NOW THEREFORE BE IT ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA:
Section One: Definitionst An used in this Ordinance, the
following words shall have the following meanings:
"County ": means the unincorporated area of Collier
County, Florida.
"SeawAll ": means any solid upright structure which
serves r.n aeparnte real property and /or any
improvements thereon from any natural or man -made body
of water.
"Failed seawall or revetment ": means a seawall or
revetment that has failed structurally or that has
moved from its original position or that does not
serve to stabilize the position of the shoreline.
"Revetment ": means a sloping structure which serves to
separate real property and /or any improvements thereon
from any natural or man -made body of water.
Section Two: Failed Seawall Or Revetment Declared To Be
Unlawful And A Public Nuisance.
It is hereby declared unlawful and A public nuisance for any
property owner in the County to permit, cr to fail to repair or
reconstruct, any failed seawall or revetment upon his property.
Section Three: Enforcement Jurisdiction.
In any area of the County where a Code Enforcement Board
exists, such Code Enforcement Board shall have jurisdiction to
enforce the provisions of this Ordinance, however the jurisdic-
tion of the Code Enforcement Board shall not be exclusive. The
Code Enforcement Board shall have such enforcement powers to be
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exercised in such manner As may be provided by county ordinance
or state statute, including the authority to levy a fine not to
exceed two hundred fifty dollars ($250.00) for each day a viola-
tion continues past the data set by the Code Enforcement Board's
order for compliance. In connection therewith, Section Three,
Subsection 2 of Ordinance 83 -43 which created the Code Enforce-
ment Board of Collier County, is hereby amended by adding the
following lanquaget
(j) Seawalls and Revetments - Collier County Ordinance
No. 85 -_ 2 and amendments thereto.
Section Fouri Other Enforcement Remedies And Penalties.
Violation of the provisions of this Ordinance, or failure to
comply with any of the provisions of this Ordinance shall consti-
tut* a misdemeanor. Any person who violates this Ordinance or
fsilt to comply with any of the pre.iaionc of thin Ordinance
shall upon conviction thereof be fined or imprisoned, or both, as
providod by law, and in addition shall pay all costs and expenses
involved in the case. Each day such violation continues shall be
eonsidernd a separate offense.
In addition, the hoard of County commissioners may take
any other lawful action in any court of competent jurisdiction as
is necessary to prevent or remedy any failure or refusal to
comply with any of the provisions of this Ordinance. Such other
lawful action shall include, but shall not be limited to, an
equitable action for injunctive relief or action at law for
damages or foreclosures of liens. Nothing contained in this
Ordinance shall be construed to limit or otherwise adversely
affect an adjoining property owner's right to seek redress for
damages resulting from a failed seawall or revetment.
Section Fivet Technical Specifications For Seawalls
An Revettronts.
There is attached hereto and incorporated by refcrencc
herein a document entitled "Collier County Seawall and Revetment
Regulations - Technical Specifications," consisting of pages one
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through nine, inclusive of design figures. All seawalls and
revetments constructed, reconstructed, repaired, altered, pro-
jetted or prolonged in the County after the effective date of
this Ordinance must meet or exceed these technical specifica-
tions as followst
Minor repairs to the seawall or revatment which do not
necessitate physical alteration to the existing structural
support system are exempt from the technical specifications.
B. Major repairs to the seawall or revetment which necessi-
tate physical replacement of any portion of the structural
support system, except sheet piling, shall comply with the
appropriate material specification of the technical epecifi-
cations for the proposed repair only.
C. Reconstruction of any seawall or revetment requiring the
complete reinstallntion of the sheet pile portion of the
structural support system, or any new seawall or revetment
section installed ndjacent to or independently from any
existing seawall or revetment shall require complete con-
formance with all sections of the technical specifications
for that portion of seawall or revetment.
Failure to comply with these technical specifications
shall constitute a vic.Iation of this Ordinance.
Section Six: Conflict and Severability.
In the event this Ordinance conflicts with any other
ordinance of Collier County or other applicable law, ti:e more
restrictive shall apply. If any phrase or pertion of this
Ordinance is held invalid or unconstitutional by any court of
competent jurisdiction, such portion shall be deemed a separate,
distinct and independent provision and such holding shall not
affect the validity of the remaining portion.
Section Sevene Effective Date
This Ordinance shall become effective !ipon receipt of notice
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
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FREDE ICR J. VOSS, C airman
I, WILLIAM J. REAChN, Clerk of Courts in and for the Twentieth Judicial
Circuit. Collier County, Florida, do hereby certify that the foregoing is a
true original of:
ORDINANCE NO. 85 -2
which was adopted by the Board of County Corarnisnionern during Regular Session
the 8th day of January, 1985.
WITNESS my hand and the official seat of the Board of County Comsissionere
of Collier County, Florida, thin 8th day of January, 1985.
WILLIAH J. REAGAN
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COLLIER COUNTY SEAWALL AND REV MENT REGULATIONS
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION
SECTION li DESCRIPTION
nr The work described in this Specification consists of the design and construc-
tion of waterfront upland property and building protection structures such as
seawalls and revetments which serve to protect against wave attack and to ate-
bili :e the position of the shoreline.
The Design and Construction standards herein described shall provide minimum
requirements for all seawalls and revetments constructed, reconstructed, repaired,
altered, projected or prolonged.
SECTION 2:
DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS
A.
Central
1. All plans and specifications for seawalls and revetments
shall be prepared by a Professional Engineer registered in the
State of Florida.
2. Th e design of the structures shall adequately address all
possible soil, live, dead and hydrostatic loadings existing
during the life of the structure.
B.
Criteria
1. Soil and site parameters essential to the structural design
are summarized on Figure 1.
2. The active failure soil wedge on the upland side of the
structure shall assume saturated soil to the top cnp of the
seawall /revetment.
). The low water depth on the waterward side of the structure
shall be assumed to he it "low, low" tide.
SECTION i;
GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
A.
Location
Seawalls shall be placed so that the waterward frce of the wall is
coincidental with the platted property or bulkhead line, if one
exists, or at the intersection of the mean high water line with
the existing shoreline.
Revetments shall be placed so the exposed rock face intersects the
platted property or bulkhead Line at the mean high water line.
B.
Elevation
The cap elevation for all seawalls and revetments fronting on
protected tidal waters shall be equal to, or greater than, eleva-
tion 4.5 feet N.G.V.D. (National Geodetic Vertical Datum) and
equal to or greater than, 5.5 feet N.C.V.D. on open bays and
channels. The elevation for all seawalls and revetments fronting
on freshwater canals and lakes shall be equal to, or greater than,
the local high water elevation as determined for a 25 year return
frequency design storm avant.
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Filling
The only filling authorized heroin shall be for backfill behind
the seawalls or revetments and shall not extend any further water —
ward than existing seawalls or revetments. The backfill shall be
from upland sources and consist of suitable granular material free
from toxic pollutants in other than trace quantitie2. At no time
shall this Specification be construed to allow the filling of
any County. State or Federal wetland.
Cods Enforcement
1. The County Manager, or his designated representative, shall
review the plant and specifications to determine if all
appropriate Engineering Certifications are provided. Upon
determination that all certifications are provided, the County
Manager, or his designated representative, shall issue a
Permit to perform such work.
2. At the conclusion of all permitted work relating to an indi-
vidual seawall or revetment improvement, a certification by a
Professional Engineer registered in the State of Florida
shall he provided to the County Manager, or his designated
representative, verifying compliance with the design and
construction requirements of this Specification.
Special Conditions
The County Manager, or his designated representative, may waive/
Abate only those requirements detailed herein that are in direct
conflict with existing conditions at or Adjacent to the property
location for the proposed ■eAwAll or revetment improvements.
Substitutions may be Authorized by the County Manager, or his
designated representative, for seawalls or revetments constructed
of material and /or by methods other than as detailed in this
Ordinance only if the design considerations of Section 2 herein are
complied with. This authorization does not allow substitution of
any requirement detailed in Section 4 herein.
RESTRICTIVE SPECiFICATTON'S
General
1. The Standard Specifications of the Florida Department of
Transportation for Road and Bridge Construction, Latest
Edition, shall govern all construction, including materials
and workmanship, where applicable.
2. The references to tie —back rods and Anchors in the following
subsection& shall not be construed as a requirement by Collier
County for that particular means of sheet piling support sys-
tem but are included for Specification information purpose*
only. When utilized, the tie —back rods shall be straight
between wall cap or waler and anchor plate.
3. Shoot piling shall be installed plumb in both the horizontal
and vertical directions.
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4. Sliest piling shall penetrate into firm ground a minimum of
40% of the total length of the sheet pile but never less than
4 feet. This penetration requirement may be abated in the
event the toe of the sheet pile can be embedded a miniumum of
12 inches in solid bedrock.
S. The toe -berm of all sheet pile seawalls shall be protected by
a atone rip -rap revetment placed on a filter fabric erosion
control blanket in accordance with Section 4.0 as follows:
a. At locations where soils will not adequately resist
toe -out failure by additional penetration depth alone;
b. At locations where lateral tidal flows create excessive
scour and erosion of the toe -berm;
C. At any other location where the design Engineer deems it
necessary for the preservation of the integrity of the
seawall.
E. Concrete Sheet Pile Seawalls
1. All seawalls under this Section may be of concrete, utilizing
the tongue end grove, nr other Approved method of construc-
tion, with poured -in -place concrete cap.
2. Tht concrete shall have a minimum test strength of 3.000 psi
after 28 days.
1. Each sheet piling slab shall have a minimum thickness of mix
Inches and provide a minimum reinforcing stool covtr of two
and one -hnlf (2y) inches of concrete.
4. The concrete cap shall not be less than 10 inches in thick -
neas, nor Less than 16 inches in width, And contain one -half
(y) inch expsnaton jointa of pre - molded sealer at all property
lines but in no case more than 100 foot intervals.
5. All tie -hack rode shall be of A size, material And composi-
tion to ensure a three -to -one (3:1) safety factor under the
design criteria outlined in Section 2.A.2. Tie rods shall be
integral with the +lAb vertical reinforcing steel And be
environmentAlly protected Against corrosion by "hot -dip"
galvaniring in Accordance with ASTM A -153, epoxy coating in
Accordance with ASTM A -775, or Any other equivalent protection
material.
6. TLe -rod anchors shall have not less than six square feet of
vertical surface area perpendicular to the alignment of the
tie -rod and be located within the area of full passive resis-
tance.
C. Aluminum Sheet Pile Seawalls
1. All seawalls under this Section may be of aluminum, with all
members conforming to the appropriate ASTM standards so
specified.
2. Sheet piles shall be fabricated from aluminum alloy 5052 -H141,
conforming to ASTM 15-209 alloy 5052 for chemical composition;
also having a minimum thickness of 0.125 inches and a minimns
ultimate tensile strength of 35,500 p.s.i.
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3. Cap and joint extrusions shall be fabricated from aluminum
alloy 6063 -T6, conforming to ASTN B -221 alloy 6063 for
chemical composition; also having a minimum thickness of 0.15
inches and a minimum ultimate tenelle strength of 30,000
' p.a.i. The cap shall be a minimum of six inches wide and
five and threa- quarters (5.75) inches deep.
4. Anchor rods and anchor plates shall be fabricated from
aluminum alloy 6061 -T60 conforming ASTM'B -I21 alloy 6061 for
chemical composition; also having a minimum thickness of
0.125 inches for anchor plates and a minimum diameter of 0.75
inches for anchor rods, both with a minimum ultimate tensile
strength of 38,000 p.s.i. Anchor rods shall be designed to
ensure a three -to -one (3sl) safety factor under the design
criteria outlined in Section 2.A.2.
5. Installation procedures shall follow the guidelines and
methods required by the aluminum seawall manufact,irer.
6. If the aluminum material is brought in contact with concrete,
A coatis; of clear nethscrylarp iscgtisr shall be applied to
the aluminum contact surface to prevent corrosion. There
shall be no dissimilar metals or metal systems bonded to the
wall.
D. Revetments
1. The work under this Sectiun is comprised of a heavy senor
facing of precasr. co -crate blocks, natural stones and
boulders, baits filled with sand- cement mixture of grout, or
some other durable facing material placed on a stable natural
sloping shore.
2. The revetment shall be placed on a smooth, even, compacted
slope with a gradient not exceeding one foot vertical drop
for every two feet of horizontal distance.
3. All revetments shall be placed on a woven plastic filter
fabric in accordance with F.D.O.T. Specifications, Section
514. This fabric shall be overlaid by a layer of one inch to
four inch atone which shall serve as ■ cushion for the armor
lsyer protection. The fabric shall be folded over and
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SmithCamden
Friday, February 28, 2014 2:25 PM
HenningTom
RE: Collier County Shoreline Lengths
3/11/2014 10.A.
Marco Island's community relations staff Nancy Peyton provided me data on seawall mileage on Marco Island
verbally as 120.12 miles. The calculations then for the executive summary will include what Josh estimated for
Collier County as well as the Marco Island calculations, but excludes waterfront in the City of Naples and
Everglades City. So total mileage as previously mentioned is 184.37 linear miles.
Respectfully,
Camden Smith, MPA
Executive Coordinator to Commissioner Henning
Board of County Commissioners
Ph: (239) 252 -8605
Email: CamdenSmithPcolliergov.net
Notice to recipients: All ema.ils and attachments reeeiued or sent regarding count! business and /or BCC agenda items are public
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From: HenningTom
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:08 AM
To: SmithCamden
Subject: Fwd: Collier County Shoreline Legnths
Begin forwarded message:
From: Josh Maxwell <Josh(&turrell- associates.com>
Date: February 21, 2014 at 6:19:35 PM EST
To: HenningTom <TomHenning_(&colliergov.net>
Subject: RE: Collier County Shoreline Legnths
Commissioner Henning,
n The approximate developed, navigable, shoreline in Collier County is 64.25 miles + / -, which
excludes the waterfront in the City of Naples, City of Marco Island and Everglades City.
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The shorelines utilized for this study include known areas where the shorelines have been
armored with seawalls, riprap or have a maintained mangrove shoreline. The county parks were
not counted in these calculations, only include single family, multi - family and commercial
waterfront was used for this data. Areas with large, un- maintained areas of mangroves were
excluded from these calculations as the location of the shoreline within the mangroves is the
mean high water line which can be hard to approximate without a survey. This data was not
collected from a survey, the shoreline lengths were measured in Google Earth and were then
rounded to the nearest 1/4 mile.
Here are the shoreline calculations broken down to general areas around the County:
- County Line to Wiggins Pass 10.25 miles
- Vanderbilt Lagoon
11.5 miles
- Seagate
2.0 miles
- Naples Bay /Gordon
River/Haldeman Creek 12.25 miles
- Henderson Creek
2.75 miles
- Isles of Capri
8.5 miles
- Goodland
4.5 miles
- Port of the Islands
5.0 miles
- Plantation Island
4.5 miles
- Chokoloskee
3.0 miles
I hope this answers your question and if you need any further information please feel free to
contact me.
Regards,
Joshua W. Maxwell, E.I.T./Project Manager
Turrell, Hall & Associates, Inc.
Marine & Environmental Consulting
3584 Exchange Avenue
Naples, FL. 34104 -3732
Phone: (239) 643 -0166
Fax: (239) 643 -6632
Web: www.turrell - associates.com
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Subject: Turrell, Hall & Associates: Contact Form
Name: Commissioner Henning
Email: tomhenning_Acollier og v.net
Phone:
Comments:
Josh Maxwell
Would you have approximate linear feet or miles of shore line protection in Collier County.
Thanks Commissioner Henning
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Length: 120.12 mi
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MEMORANDUM
December 7, 2012
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Planning Board and Waterways Advisory Committee
Lina Upham, Planning and Zoning Technician
Seawall Manufacture, Construction, and Repair
On October 5 and November 2, 2012, Planning Board and Waterways Advisory Committee held
workshops in the effort to provide solutions and alternatives to the existing ordinance regulating
seawall manufacture, construction and repair on vacant residential lots. Purpose of this memo is
to present follow -up permitting and code enforcement related information that would be helpful
in this effort.
1) Summary of the seawall staging lot permits (12/01/2008-11/30 /2012)
Currently, regulations pertaining to the seawall staging on vacant parcels are codified under the
Section 30 -793, Construction Temporary Use Permit, of the Marco Island Code of Ordinances. Also,
most current fee schedule, adopted by the City Council on June 20, 2011 (Resolution No. 11 -10),
requires a $300 fee payment for all the permits issued under the Sec. 30 -793.
Permit activity. Between December 1, 2008 and November 30, 2012, City of Marco Island has
issued 212 seawall staging permits. 204 vacant residential lots were used for this purpose. Eight (8)
vacant lots that were used for staging more than once.
Map, indicating all the seawall staging sites, is attached to your packets.
The below table indicates eight (8) vacant lots that were used for staging more than once and the
number of days elapsed between the final date (when the permit was officially closed by the City)
of the first permit and the issue date of the second permit.
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Final date of the 1st permit
Issue date of the 2nd permit
Days elapsed
1207 Antigua Ct
1/13/2010
4/12/2011
454
173 Stillwater Ct
6/30/2009
9/1/2011
793
365 Wales Ct
8/16/2010
4/11/2012
605
441 Edgewater Ct
6/25/2010
5/31/2012
706
444 Barcelona Ct
4/16/2010
6/23/2011
433
451 Alameda Ct
6/25/2009
11/29/2011
887
889 S Barfield Dr
2/10/2010
2/14/2011
1369
89 Madagascar Ct
6/1012010
12/2/2011
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Actual time between the issuance and dosing of the permit. As it was mentioned during the last
meeting, 30 staging lot permits were issued in FY 2012 (October 1, 2011 — September 30, 2012). Of
which:
• One (1) is still active
• Seven (7) were closed in less than 120 days (71; 100; 77; 100; 100; 60; 101 days)
• 22 were closed in 120 days. However, this does not mean that all 120 days were
necessary. Permits are closed prior to the permit expiration day only if the contractor
informs the City that the job is complete and requests a final inspection. 10_1�1
2) Most common citizen concerns and code violations
"Old" violations. During the public workshops prior to the passage of 2010 ordinance, it was
indicated that most of the 25 violations (issued between 12/9/2006 and 2/9/2010) were for
overstaying the allowed 120 days on the vacant lot and failure to clean up properly after vacating
the lot. Also, the following complaints were indicated:
• Mooring of the barges
• Fixing boats on vacant lots
• Dumping of debris on the lot
• Breaking up of old seawalls panels on the property
• Storage of commercial equipment
• Cement truck entering and exiting the property
• Noise
Current citizen concerns and code violations. It is important to note that 2010 ordinance limited
demolition activities, clarified what vehicles or equipment could be on the staging site, forbade
fixing of boats on vacant lots and put the reference to the already existing Sections 54-111 and 54-
112 (i) of the Marco Island Code of Ordinances, which regulate mooring of barges and other
waterway related items (attached to your packets). Within past year, City has not received seawall
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staging related noise complaints, complaints regarding fixing of the boats on the vacant lots, also
City is not aware of any contractors overstaying the allowed 120 days.
Since Community Affairs Department started issuing seawall staging permits almost a year ago it
was observed that one issue continues to cause vast majordy of concerns — debris on site and
general unsightliness. Requiring for six -foot fencing and imposing stricter fines should remedy
that.
Finally, within last year, new kind of violation emerged — using a vacant lot without securing a
staging lot permit. This happens when a contractor has an active building permit to replace or
repair a seawall on a vacant lot for that particular lot only, however starts pouring panels, hauls in
demolition materials and performs other activities for other sites, without the City or owner of
that lot knowing about it. It is staff's opinion that a staging lot permit is required with a regular
seawall building permit any time the job is done on a vacant lot. This should prevent the type of
violation that occurred at 1790 Hummingbird Ct., about which Mrs. Sorboro spoke during the last
workshop.
Requested Action:
Consider provided information, public comment, and make recommendations to the City Council
or staff if additional workshops are needed.
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Vsec. 54-111. - Dimensional
(a) Protrusion limitations for boat docking facilities.
(1) On waterfront lots located on waterways which are 100 feet or greater in width the
combination of a boat docking facility and moored vessel(s) shall not protrude more
than 30 feet into the waterway, provided the combination of a boat docking facility and
moored vessel(s) does not protrude more than 25 percent of the platted width of the
waterway in order to ensure reasonable width for navigation. The protrusion of boat
docking facilities, which are located at the intersection of two waterways or in areas
where the waterway widens may in cases exceed 25 feet but not more than 30 feet
into the waterway. Boat docking facilities located at the end of a canal shall not
protrude more than 25 percent of the platted width of the waterway. See Exhibits One
and Three.
(2) On waterfront lots located on waterways which are less than 100 feet in width the
combination of a boat docking facility and moored vessels) shall not protrude more
than 20 percent of the platted width of the waterway, except that on waterfront lots
with a marginal dock as defined in section 54 -101 the combination of the dock and
moored vessel(s) shall not exceed 25 percent of the platted width of the waterway or
25 feet, whichever is more restrictive. The protrusion of boat docking facilities, which
are located at the intersection of two waterways or in areas where the waterway
widens may in cases exceed 20 feet but not more than 30 feet into the waterway.
Boat docking facilities located at the and of a canal shall not protrude more than 20 ^
percent of the platted width of the waterway. See Exhibits Two and Three.
(3) No piling, boatlift, or other structure necessary to moor a vessel shall be permitted
unless that structure meats the protrusion requirements set forth herein or a boat dock
extension has been approved.
(4) Protrusion shall be measured from the face of the seawall. On lots where the property
line extends into the water, the protrusion shall be measured from the property line.
(5) The platted width of the waterway shall be defined by the recorded plat.
(6) Staff shall determine whether or not the proposed location and design of the boat
docking facility and moored vessel(s) in combination is such that it may infringe upon
the use of neighboring properties, including any existing boat docking facilities.
(7) Protrusion measurement into a waterway from a waterfront lot shall include the
combination of the boat docking facility, mooring piles, and moored vessel(s).
Outboard motor(s), inboard propeller(s), lower unit transmissions) propeller(s), bow
pulpit(s), navigational light(s), ladder(s), and other vessel appurtenances attached to
the moored vessel shall also be included in the protrusion measurement
(8) Boat dock decking and dock area shall comply with any other applicable local, state,
or federal law, rule, regulation or policy.
(9) Waterfront lots located within multifamily and commercial zoning districts may provide
a parallel waterfront walkway along the waterway side of the seawall from lot line to lot
line (riparian lines) not to exceed a maximum width of six feet. Staff shall determine
whether or not the waterfront walkway interferes with adjacent boat docking facilities.
(10) Wet slip mooring may be provided in the side yard setback adjacent to side yard
property lines/riparian lines in multifamily and commercial zoning districts, provided
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boat docks, mooring piles, and access piers comply with side yard setbacks set forth
herein.
01) If the platted width of a waterway is unclear from available information, a waterfront
property owner may, at the waterfront property owner's expense, provide a survey,
which is dated no later than three months from the date of the waterfront property
owners boat dock extension application, to staff as additional information regarding
the actual width of the waterway.
(b) Side yard setback requirements for boat docking facilities and swivel PWC lifts:
(1) Boat docking facilities shall have side yard setbacks equivalent to 15 percent of the
seawall length, as measured along the waterfront and from each applicable riparian
line.
a• The minimum required setback shall be 7.5 feet.
b. The maximum required setback shall be 15 feet.
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C. Waterfront comer lots that have less than 80 feet of water frontage shall have
required setbacks of 7.5 feet from each riparian line. Lots located adjacent to
waterfront comer lots, regardless of their waterfront length, shall have a 7.5
foot setback, but only from the riparian line shared with the waterfront comer
lot. A waterfront comer lot is a "lot, comer" on the "waterfront" as defined in
section 30 -10 and is also known as a "lot, shoulder" as defined in section 30 -10
d• The setback shall apply to that portion of the boat dock facility and moored
vessel waterward of the property line.
(2)
Boat docking facilities which are constructed in an existing cut -in boat slip shall have a
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minimum side yard setback of ten feet.
(3)
Any decked area which is extended or located past the waterward side of the seawall
shall be considered part of the boat docking facility. All height limitations and setback
requirements contained herein shall apply to such decked area, terrace or patio
extensions.
(4)
Any boat, accessory attached to a boat, or PWC stored on the decking of a boat
docking facility must meet the setback requirements set forth in this section.
(5)
Seawall support pilings which are not part of a boat docking facility and meet the
height limitations set forth in this article shall not be required to comply with side yard
setback requirements.
(c) Height:
(1)
The decking on a dock may not exceed 12 inches in height above the seawall cap.
Railings and fish cleaning tables may not exceed 48 inches in height above the
decking of a dock. The railing may be no more than 25 percent opaque in any ten -foot
increment.
(2)
Mooring piles and dolphins may not exceed 12 feet in height above mean high water.
(3)
Boatlifts and pilings used to anchor a boatlift shall not exceed 12 feet in height above
mean high water.
(4)
Davits located on a boat docking facility shall not exceed 12 feet in height above the
decking of a dock. Davits located on land shall not exceed 15 feet in height above the
seawall.
(5)
Seawall support pilings may not exceed four feet in height above the seawall cap.
(Ord. No. 00-04, § 4, 4-17 -2000; Ord. No. 03-15, § 1, 9 -3 -2003; Ord. No. 06-07, § 1, 6-19 -2006; Ord. No. 09-01, § 2
(1),1-5-2009)
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(a) All boat docking facilities are subject to, and shall comply with, all federal and state
requirements and permits, including but not limited to the requirements and permits of the
state department of environmental protection, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and the
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
(b) Any proposed expansion of or addition to (excluding boatlifts) an existing nonconforming
boat docking facility, whether attached to or detached from an existing boat docking facility,
shall require the entire boat docking facility be brought into conformance with the
requirements of this article. Any repair or replacement of the structure within the existing
footprint shall not require that the facility be brought into compliance with the standards set
forth in this article.
(c) All boat docking facilities, regardless of length or protrusion, shall have blue or white
reflectors installed facing the water at the outermost end of the boat docking facility on both
sides. Red and green reflectors are prohibited.
(d) All boat dock facilities, regardless of length or protrusion, shall have house numbers, which
are a minimum of four inches in height and a contrasting color from the area of installation,
Installed facing the water at the outermost end of the boat docking facility on both sides.
(e) Live- aboard vessels may not anchor or tie up in waters under the jurisdiction of the city
except at anchorage sites identified on official National Oceanographic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA) navigational charts or at facilities located in zoning districts permitting
such use and at facilities within such districts designated for such use and meeting city,
county, and state health standards for such use.
(f} Use of boat docking facilities to moor boats for boat rentals, boat repair, boat sales,
associated boat supplies storage, or the rental of boat docking facilities in all single and
multifamily districts is expressly prohibited.
(g) Any outside lighting on a boat docking facility shall comply with the lighting regulations set
forth in chapter 6, article V of this Code. Further, the use of red or green lights or lights that
emit red or green light due to a lens or other method are prohibited.
(h) No owner shall allow the boat docking facility and /or associated infrastructure located at the
owner's lot to become dilapidated, deteriorated, structurally unsound, unsightly or a safety
hazard.
�(k) A crane or barge may not sit idle for more than 15 business days. An extension of up to an
additional 15 business days may be approved administratively if the barge or crane cannot
be moved within the Initial 15 business days due to mechanical problems.
G} Seagrass bed protection:
(1) Where new boat docking facilities or boat dock extensions are proposed, the location
and presence of seagrass or seagrass beds within 200 feet of any proposed dock
facility shall be identified on an aerial photograph having a scale of one inch = 200
feet when available, or a scale of one inch = 400 feet when such photographs are not
available. The location of seagrass beds shall be verified by a site visit by the
community development director or his designee prior to the approval of any boat
dock extension or the issuance of any building permit.
(2) All proposed boat docking facilities shall be located and aligned to stay at least ten
feet from any existing seagrass beds, except where a continuous bed of seagrasses
exists off the shore of the property and adjacent to the property, and shall minimize
negative impacts to seagrasses and other native shoreline, emergent and submerged
vegetation and hard bottom communities.
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(3) Where a continuous bed of seagrasses exists off the shore of the property and
adjacent to the property, the applicant shall be allowed to build a boat docking facility
across the seagrasses or within ten feet of seagrasses. Such boat docking facilities
shall comply with the following conditions:
a. The dock shall be at a height of at least 3.5 feet N.G.V.D.
b• The terminal platform of the dock shall not exceed 160 square feet.
C. The access dock shall not exceed a width of four feet.
d• The boat docking facility shall be sited to impact the smallest area of
seagrasses possible.
(4) The applicant or petitioner shall be required to demonstrate how negative impacts to
seagrasses and other native shoreline vegetation and hard bottom communities have
been minimized prior to the approval of any boat dock extension or the issuance of
any building permit.
(Ord. No. 00-04, § 5, 4-17 -2000, Ord. No. 03-15, § 1, 9-3 -2003)
Sec. 84 -118.. Penalties for violation.
(a) Pursuant to F.S. § 762.22, a person found to be in violation of this article may be charged
with a fine, not to exceed $500.00, and may be sentenced to a definite term of imprisonment
not to exceed 60 days. Each violation or noncompliance shall be considered a separate and
distinct offense. Further, each day of continued violation or noncompliance shall be
considered as a separate offense.
(b) Violations of this article may also be prosecuted before the city code enforcement board.
(Ord. No. 00 -04, § 12, 4-17 -2000, Ord. No. 03-15, § 1, 9 -3 -2003)
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From: Brian Gil more [ bdan @collierseawallanddock.com2
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:02 AM
To: Bryan Milk
Cc: Brian Gilmore
Subject: Vacant Lot use
Bryan,
As requested, by members of the Planning Board & City Council, I would like to suggest some items in the
Staging Lot Ordinance, that could be tweaked to help preserve reasonable prices to residents, for marine
construction work, while also maintaining everyone's right to enjoying their lifestyle.
In addition to these compromises to the existing Ordinance, that were vetted & approved by previous Council's. I
am obligated to mention that, to my knowledge, there are no other Industries on the Island, that are held to the
standards of Marine Contractor's.
These idea's are from my opinion only & do not reflect the opinions of any other marine contractor.
Time frame for staging could be reduced to 90 days, anything less would create a hardship in scheduling & could
compromise quality.
Multiple projects on designated staging lots should be recommended.
90 day extensions, should be granted by request or if multiple jobs are being completed.
Silt fence, should be installed on property lines to protect neighbors from debris or run off.
Old panels being removed, will be hauled away within 5 business days.
Material & equipment to be allowed on site must include everything associated with seawall & dock demolition
construction.
1 am proud to say that, my company works extremely diligently, to keep our job sites clean and orderly & would
like to fully cooperate with City Staff.
Margins for any business in these challenging times are very tight & it is my hope, that after more than a decade
of serving the people of Marco Island, that the City would choose to help & not hinder small businesses, like
mine. I am confident that this goal is attainable, through thoughtful consideration of all parties concerns.
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1�5 � MEMORANDUM
Date: November 2, 2012
To: Planning Board and Waterways Advisory Committee
From: Lina Upham, Planning and Zoning Technician
Subject: Seawall Manufacture, Construction, and Repair
Introduction:
On October 5, 2012, Planning Board and Waterways Advisory Committee held the first
workshop in the effort to provide solutions and alternatives to the existing ordinance
regulating seawall manufacture, construction and repair on vacant residential lots. Purpose
of this memo is to present a follow -up geographic and permitting information that was
requested by the members of the Planning Board and Waterways Advisory Committee
and /or public.
1) Single Family Lots by Type:
As of October 25, 2010
* All numbers exclude SF zoned lots in Hideaway (260) and Key Marco (134)
PUDs (total: 394)
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Indirect
Access
Direct
Access
Inland
Waterfront
Total
Total
Vacant
623
466
665
1,089
1,754
Built
2,439
2,195
1,923
4,635
6,557
Total
3,062
2,661
2,588
5,723
8,311*
* All numbers exclude SF zoned lots in Hideaway (260) and Key Marco (134)
PUDs (total: 394)
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Built v. Vacant Lots
Total
waterfront
5,723
69%
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Waterfront v. Inland Lots
Inland
2,588
31%
Waterfrontage of All SF Lots
� a `
0 500 1000 1500 2000 2500 3000
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2) Historic Single family Building Permit Activity:
2006-2012*
Calendar year
SF dwelling units
SF demolitions
Decline of the number of
vacant SF lots
2006
72
48
24
2007
38
26
12
2008
27
30
-3
2009
21
14
7
2010
33
10
23
2011
35
13
22
2012*
46
22
24
Total
272
163
109
* through September
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3) Total Length of Seawalls within Marco Island City Limits:
634,234 ft As of October 19, 2012
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4) Overview of the Seawall Building Permits Issued in FY 2012:
October 1, 2011 —September 30, 2012
* Job valuation is the estimated cost of the job (disclosed on the building permit
application), not the final price consumer is charged;
Building permit fee depends on the length of the seawall, not the job valuation
Below information covers only seawall replacement permits (total 77):
a) Water plant (vinyl seawall in front of the old seawall) — 450 ft
b) Two (2) condominiums. Total length — 600 ft
C) 74 single family zoned parcels:
• Total length — 8,629 ft; approx 1.63 miles; 1.36 percent of total city -wide seawall
length
• Average job valuation - $277/ft
• Seawalls were replaced on 37 vacant lots and 37 developed lots
• Staging lots were used for all the replacement jobs on developed lots, except
two (2) cases. In both cases houses happened to be on a large end lots,
developed with small homes with deep setbacks.
In summary, there were no trends detected in job valuations, whether the lot was
developed or vacant, or whether the staging lot was used or not.
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Number of permits issued
Job valuations*
Replacement
77
$3,768,837
Repair or minor
maintenance (tie- backs,
rip -rap, etc.)
74
$407,143
Total
151
$4,175,980
* Job valuation is the estimated cost of the job (disclosed on the building permit
application), not the final price consumer is charged;
Building permit fee depends on the length of the seawall, not the job valuation
Below information covers only seawall replacement permits (total 77):
a) Water plant (vinyl seawall in front of the old seawall) — 450 ft
b) Two (2) condominiums. Total length — 600 ft
C) 74 single family zoned parcels:
• Total length — 8,629 ft; approx 1.63 miles; 1.36 percent of total city -wide seawall
length
• Average job valuation - $277/ft
• Seawalls were replaced on 37 vacant lots and 37 developed lots
• Staging lots were used for all the replacement jobs on developed lots, except
two (2) cases. In both cases houses happened to be on a large end lots,
developed with small homes with deep setbacks.
In summary, there were no trends detected in job valuations, whether the lot was
developed or vacant, or whether the staging lot was used or not.
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5) Examples of seawall replacement jobs where "alternative"
methods /materials were used
➢ 2005. 100 ft direct access vacant lot on Century Ct. Materials (sheet piling) were
provided for free by the manufacturer on the promotional basis.
Job valuation - $19,000. $190 /ft.
2006. 190 ft direct access vacant lot on Stillwater Ct. Materials (sheet piling) were
provided free of charge by the manufacturer on the promotional basis.
Job valuation - $40,000. $210 /ft.
' 2008 -2009. Palm Isle and Sunny Shadows Condominiums. Method — vinyl seawall in
front of the old seawall.
Total length — 450 ft
Total valuation - $135,000. $300 /ft.
Vacant lot on Banyan Ct was used for staging (see the next page for location of
seawall replacement and staging areas)
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Requested Action:
Consider provided information, public comment, and make recommendations to the City
Council or staff if additional workshops are needed.
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MEMORANDUM
Date: October 2, 2012
To: Planning Board and Waterways Committee Members
From: Lina Upham, Planning and Zoning Technician
Subject: Seawall Manufacture, Construction, and Repair
Introduction:
On September 17, 2012, faced with multiple complaints concerning seawall staging lots in
residential areas, City Council requested a workshop between the Planning Board and
Waterways Committee. Main objective — provide solutions and alternatives to the existing
ordinance regulating seawall manufacture, construction and repair, on vacant residential
lots.
Background:
City has historically allowed the use of vacant lots for seawall construction without any
formal approval and /or monitoring process. Faced with citizen concerns, in 2006 City
Council passed an ordinance (attached), which established the permitting process of and
imposed certain regulations on the use of vacant lots for seawall staging. Nevertheless, it
was still felt that seawall staging on vacant lots remained a major nuisance to the
neighborhoods. In the spring of 2010, Waterways Committee along with the Planning Board
brought back the discussions regarding this issue. In 2010, City Council passed a new
ordinance (attached) that was intended to fix the shortcomings of the 2006 regulations.
On October 1, 2012, City Council passed another round of changes to the regulations
pertaining seawall staging on residential lots (full ordinance is included in the packets):
- Vacant residential lot can be used only one time;
- Multiple jobs con be performed concurrently on the same lot;
- Only natural stone can be used for rip -rap purposes;
- Demolition activities are limited to breaking apart the old seawall panels for
transport;
- Demolition materials can stay on -site no longer than five (S) working days;
- Ordinance sunsets on April 1, 2013.
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Discussion:
Technical specifications. Community at large has a perception that precast concrete
panels is the only seawall construction method allowed by the City of Marco Island.
City does allow for alternatives — vinyl (PVC); aluminum; fiber reinforced /polymer
composite sheet piles, seawalls in front of the old seawalls, just to name a few. Most
current technical specifications are included in your packets. Understanding that
those specifications might seem too technical for non - technical eye, Waterways
Committee had agreed to work on more "user- friendly" Seawall Owner's Manual.
Logistics. Despite the chosen technology, seawall construction involves the following:
1. Upland staging lot for seawall construction;
2. Loading of fleet and materials (right from the staging or some other site);
3. Transporting fleet and materials to the actual seawall job site;
4. Demolition and removal of old seawall;
5. Construction of new seawall.
Large map in your packets illustrates three (3) items crucial to the logistics
subsection:
- vacant commercial lots within the City, as well as Goodland and Isles of Capri;
- indirect waters;
- bridges (information on bridge clearances is on the separate sheet).
What, if any, was Deltona's plan?
Consider the option for allowing only off- season (May 1 — September 30) seawall
construction activities.
Requested Action:
Consider provided information, public comment, and make recommendations to the City
Council or staff if additional workshops are needed.
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Code Case Detail Report
CDPR4204 - Code Case Detail Report
CASE NBR: 2004031367 AO NBR: 245352
STATUS: OPEN INSPECTOR: CRISPRITA LEVEL: WARN
CASE TYPE: ENVIRONMENTAL
ADDR NBR: 189297 LOCATION: 1487 BEMBURY DR
FOLIO: 0000074960480000 STORTER W 17FT OF LOT 11 + E
43FT OF LOT 12
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LOT: 11 BLOCK: SUBDIV: (1711) - Storter
TAZ: 103 PLANNING COMM: CN ZIP: 341023423
OPEN DATE: 03/24/2004 OPEN USER :BIRESJASON CLOSE DATE: CLOSE KIMBERLYBRA
DIRECTIONS: DISPOSITION:ABATED
CATEGORY: SEAWALL
PRIORITY: 0 LAST 835114
HEARING DATE: CONTACT ?:
DESCRIPTION: PHYSICAL FILE ID:
SEAWALL IS DETERIORATING /CRUMBLING -- NEIGHBOR IS AFRAID SEAWALL AT ABANDONED STRUCTURE WILL
BREACH AND CAUSE WATER TO COME BEHIND HIS SEAWALL AND CAUSE EXTENSIVE DAMAGE
CONTACT INFORMATION: TENANT INFORMATION:
WOLFE, AMY WOLFE, AMY
PHONE: FAX PHONE: FAX:
OWNER INFORMATION: VIOLATOR INFORMATION:
WOLFE, AMY WOLFE, AMY
1487 BEMBURY DR 1487 BEMBURY DR
NAPLES, FL 341023423 NAPLES, FL 341023423
PHONE: FAX: PHONE: FAX:
COMPLAINANT INFORMATION:
NAME /ADDRESS:
K.C., NEIGHBOR TO THE LEFT
VISITS:
VISIT NBR INSPECTOR
833328 CRISPRITA
833329 CRISPRITA
835114 CRISPRITA
PHONE: FAX:
( )269 -3178
SCHEDULED DATE VISIT DATE
03/24/2004 03/24/2004
03/31/2004
04/12/2004
888993 CRISPRITA 04/19/2004
04/05/2004
04/12/2004
REMARKS
12:30 ON SITE, OBSERVED SEAWALL
STARTING TO SEPARATE FROM GROUND
DUE TO A PALM TREE GETTING
LARGER AND PUSHING ON SEAWALL.
PICK TAKEN ALSO ABANDONED
STRUCTURE. R/C 3/31/04 JMB
12:30 ON SITE, NO CHANGE.
STILL RESEARCHING TO SEE IF
SEAWALL IS IN VIOLATION. R/C
4/12/04 JMB
2:25 STILL RESEARCHING TO SEE
IF THERE IS A VIOLATION. R/C
4/19/04 JMB
LETTERS:
REF TYPE LETTER NAME RQST DATE PRINT DATE SEND DATE STATUS RECV DATE
VIOLATIONS:
STATUS GROUP CODE VIOL. DATE DESCRIPTION /REMARKS
COMPLIED 7001 3/24/2004 SEAWALL ORDINANCE
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VIOLATION 7001 4/12/2004 SEAWALL ORDINANCE
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CDPR4204 - Code Case Detail Report
CASE NBR: 2007100774 AO NBR: 314242
STATUS: OPEN m INSPECTOR: CAMPBELL _T LEVEL: NOV
CASE TYPE: STRUCTURAL
ADDR NBR: 345786 LOCATION: 2023 DAVIS BLVD
FOLIO: 0000000386280007 2 50 25 COMM SW CNR OF SEC, E
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662.1OFT, N 41.51FT TO POB, N
470.05FT, E 265.45FT, S
470FT, W 270FT TO POB, LESS
LOT: 004 BLOCK: 012 SUBDIV: (100)- acreage
TAZ: 126 ;PLANNING COMM: EN ZIP: 34104 -4206
OPEN DATE: 10123/2007 OPEN USERSgOLFELINDA CLOSE DATE: CLOSE
DIRECTIONS: UNIT B - BROOKESIDE MARINA DISPOSITION:
CATEGORY: BUILDxNG CODE
PRIORITY: 0 LAST 1013972
HEARING DATE: CONTACT ?:
PHYSICAL FILE ID:
DESCRIPTION:
SAFETY CONCERN - :DANGEROUS- SEAWALL IS CAVING IN AND EXPOSED ELECTRICAL WIRES, ROOF NEEDS
REPAIRING... MATERIALS HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR SOME TIME NOW.
CONTACT INFORMATION: TENANT INFORMATION:
0 CONNOR, PHILIP O CONNOR, PHILIP
PHONE: FAX PHONE: FAX:
OWNER INFORMATION: VIOLATOR INFORMATION:
O CONNOR, PHILIP 0 CONNOR, PHILIP
2023 DAVIS BLVD: 2023 DAVIS BLVD
NAPLES, FL NAPLES, FL
34104 -4206 34104 -4206
PHONE: FAX: PHONE: FAX:
COMPLAINANT INFORMATION:
NAME /ADDRESS: PHONE: FAX:
ANONYMOUS
VISITS:
VISIT NBR INSPECTOR SCHEDULED DATE VISIT DATE
1013972 CAMPBELL T 10/17/2007 10/17/2007
REMARKS
1 -- 130 =1 /2HR BROOKSIDE MARINE,
TIM STEINER (MANAGER) OBS SINK
HOLE /SEAWALL DAMAGE AND MISSING
ROOF PANELS (4X8 PLYWOOD) TIM
S. ADVISED HE HAS CONTRACTOR
SCHEDULED TO EXCAVATE SINK HOLE
AND FILL WITH CONCRETE. I DID
SEE SOME EXPOSED RE BAR AND ELEC
CONDUIT BUT I DID NOT FIND
EXPOSED ELECTRICAL WIRES. ROOF
REPAIR IS ALSO SCHEDULED. NEEDS
SOME TIME. SIGNED ATTACHED NOV.
SAFETY CODES AND HAllARD TAPE
ARE IN PLACE. TC92 R/C 11 -15 -07
DSP
1015285 C,�MPBELL T 11/15/2007
LETTERS:
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STATUS GROUP CODE VIOL. DATE DESCRIPTION /REMARKS
n VIOLATION STR 1.8.10. 10/17/2007 NON- CONFORMING STRUCTURES
IMAGES:
IMAGE DATE IMAGE DESCRIPTION
COMENTS :
ORIG DATETINE STATUS ORIG USER
COMMENT:
NOTES:
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C ,TTgov.itet Report Title: Code Case Details 3/11/2014 1O.A.
Date: 1/10/2014 3:24:22 PM Case Number: CEAU20100008707
Case Number: CEAU20100008707
Case Type: Accessory Use
Priority: Normal
Inspector: JonathanMusse
Status:
Closed
Date & Time Entered:
6/28/2010 12:44:28 PM
Entered By:
ShirleyGarcia
Case Disposition:
Withdrawn
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
Origin: Complaint
Detail Description: Duplicate case - refer to case# CEPM20100007769 for further details
Seawall is caving in and causing major damage to neighboring properties, Jodi Sheckton is the
complainant and would like a call back on what can be done. 398 -9093 or 398 -9893
Location Comments: 223 1st
Address 223 1ST ST Naples, FL
Property 155850840009
Property Owner DERRICK, SILVIA
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Execution Date 1/10, 3/11/2014 1 .11
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Enter Initial Case Information
ShirleyGarcia
6/28/2010
6/28/2010
Complete
Initial Inspection
JonathanMuss
6/28/2010
6/28/2010
No Violation
Duplicate case - refer to case#
e
(s) Found
CEPM20100007769 for further details
Generate Letter to Complainant
JonathanMuss
6/28/2010
6/28/2010
Not
e
Required
Enter Case Disposition
JonathanMuss
6/28/2010
6/28/2010
Withdrawn
e
Verify Conditions & Close Case
SusanaCapas
6/28/2010
6/29/2010
Complete
ISO
Violation Description
Status
Entered
Corrected
Amount
Comments
Legacy Fence - Building Permit FBC
Corrected
6/29/2010
6/28/2010
$0
Title Reason Result Compliance Fine /Day Condition
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6011�ovxet Report Title: Code Case Details 3/11/2014 10.A.
Date: 1/9/2014 9:34:46 AM
Case Number: CESD20130003013
Case Type: Site Development
Priority: Normal
Inspector: JohnConnetta
Case Number: CESD20130003013
Status:
Closed
Date & Time Entered:
2/27/2013 9:48:45 AM
Entered By:
ShirleyGarcia
Case Disposition:
No Violation
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
Origin: Complaint
Detail Description: the entire seawall from the clubhouse 50 pelican st w down behind all the bldgs off of la
peninsula blvd all the way to the point is caving in its detiorated and a safety issue the cracks
from the seawall falling apart is starting to affect the sidewalk behind every bldg and the
maintenance man is only throwing concrete in the holes but doesn't fix the problem.
complainants want a call back on the violaiton status and updates as well as has an
engineering inspection for investigator as back up that it is detiorating. Michael Pierpaoli 773-
875 -0369 cell and 585 - 223 -7976 home
Location Comments: 50 pelican st sw all the way down behind all the bldgs off of la peninsula blvd down to 603 la
peninsula blvd.
Address 170 LA PENINSULA BLVD
Prooertvl 1050082705
Property Owner CLUB AT LA PENINSULA INC %ROBERT MURRELL ESQ
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Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Enter Initial Case Information
ShirleyGarcia
2/27/2013
2/27/2013
Complete
CE Phone Call
kitchellsnow
2/27/2013
2/27/2013
Complete
calledM ichael Pierpaoli 773 - 875 -0369
discussed issues concerning sea wall.
advised process by which seawall con be
determined structurally unsound. Case is
assigned to Invest. Asaro but investigato
Kincaid will assist. KS93
Initial Inspection
asaro_t
3/7/2013
3/7/2013
Incomplete
site inspection due on 3/7/13 ks93
ON 3/7/13 JIM KINCAID AND DAVID JONE
WILL BE CONDUCTING A SITE
INSPECTION ON 3/7/13
03 -07 -13 On site visit by investigators JK76
and DJ97. Walked seawall from end to end.
Pictures taken of possible issues. JK76
Initial Inspection Follow -up
jameskincaid
3/7/2013
3/14/2013
Incomplete
03 -14 -13 All research complete. Will fill out
code case determination request form on 03-
18-13 and send to appropriate departments.
Initial Inspection Follow -up
jameskincaid
3/18/2013
3/22/2013
Incomplete
03 -20 -13 Determination packet prepared by
TA54 and KS93 and sent to appropriate
departments. JK76 (per KS93)
.h Picture(s)
kitchelisnow
4/9/2013
4/9/2013
Complete
Photographs added ks93
Building Department Review
kitchellsnow
4/10/2013
4/9/2013
Denied
recieved building response on 4/8/13. Talked
with County Engineer McCannea who advised
there is not a code violation on the property
after he had discussed the issue with Tom
Degram.
Initial Inspection Follow -up
crowley_m
4/11/2013
4/11/2013
Incomplete
4/11 by mtc87 -- Area Inv will review case with
supervisor.
CE Staff Review
JohnConnetta
4/17/2013
4/17/2013
Complete
4/17/13 On site and unable to gain access to
the property. Telephoned the Comp: Michael
Pierpaoli at 585 - 223 -7976 and some lady
stated that he was tied up in a Master Asso
Meeting. The femail did stated that she would
have someone come outside and open the
gate to allow CE Investigator onto the
property. Waited outisde fro 20 minutes and
then deaprted the scene. Will telephone
Michael Peirpaoli andd schedule an
appointment to meet himat the property. R/c
JC -16
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Comments
CE Staff Review
JohnConnetta
4/23/2013
4/23/2013
Complete
4/22/13 On site to conduct an inspection of
the seawall. Photos taken and attached to
case. Observed what appear to be damage to
a section of the seawall behind the Twin
Dolphins Tower Building. Spoke with a tenant
who wish to remain anonymous who stated
that there is a feud going on between the
Master Board and the Condo Owners about
the seawall. Certain Board members are
pushing for a brand new wall and the Condo
Owners believe that the wall just needs some
minor repair and /or maintenance work. The
cost of a new wall could be somewhere
around 3 -5 million dollars that they are not
willing to spend. The tenant did state that the
Collier County had responded out there to
conduct an inspection of the wall and sent an
email according to her that there was nothing
wrong with the seawall. Will research further
and try to obtain this email. Will continue to
monitor. JC -16
Attach Picture(s)
JohnConnetta
4/23/2013
4/23/2013
Complete
CE Meeting
JohnConnetta
4/25/2013
4/25/2013
Complete
4/25/13 Met with Jack McKenna(CC
Engineering & Environmental Services
Manager) who stated that he has read the
Engineering Report provided to him and he
along with Acting Building Inspector Tom
DeGram do not see any Health, Safety and
Welfare concerns with this property.
According, tot he report the seawall does
have issues that need to be addressed but in
their opinion nothing at this time appears to be
life threatening. JC -16
Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
4/26/2013
4/26/2013
Incomplete
4/26/13 Telephoned Masterboard President
Dick Van Deeler (616- 914 -1923) and he
stated that he has approval to hire Forge
Engineering to developa program for the
maintenance issues with the seawall. Van
Deeler would like a formal determination from
Collier County on the condition of the seawall.
Will speak with RB83 or check with KS93 on
response from the County. R/c JC -16
Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
5/6/2013
5/6/2013
Incomplete
5/6/2013 - Investigator briefed me on this
case, still waiting for a report. Will move date
up to reflect to to receive report. rb83. 5/6/13
Recd call from Masterboard President Dick
Van Deelen ascertaing if a decision has been
reach as far as the seawall if a code violation
or not. Spoke with RB83 to send email to Jack
McKenna on status of seawall. R/c JC -16
Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
5/8/2013
5/13/2013
Incomplete
5/13/13 Telephoned Master Board Pres. Dick
Van Deelen at 616- 914 -1923 and left voice
message. R/c JC -16
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Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
5/16/2013
5/18/2013
Incomplete
5/18/13 Placed call to Master Board President
Dick Van Deelen but have not heard back
from him. Also, waiting on letter from County
Engineers Jack McKenna has to whether or
not this is a health and safety situation. Wil
address an open permit that has expired
without completing inspection and receiving
CO certificate. R/c JC -16.
Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
5/21/2013
5/28/2013
Incomplete
5/28/13 Spoke with Masterboard President
Dick Van Deelen who was San Jose Ca and
stated that he received a short memo from
Jack McKenna stating that there were no
violations at this time. Van Deelen further
stated that he is having Forge Engineering
conduct a 4th survey of the seawall to
determine if there needs minor repairs or to
build a new seawall. The new survey is do to
begin in two weeks and Van Deelen stated
that once completed he will forward a copy of
the survey to the CE Investigator. Will
continue to minor. R/c JC -16
Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
6/17/2013
6/18/2013
Incomplete
6/18/13 On site unable to gain access to the
community, no gate code. Telephoned the
HOA Proesident Dick Van Deelen who was in
—
Michigan and unabel to provide an update on
the 4th Engineering Report from Forge
engineering. Van Deelen did stated that in a
copule of days he will attempt to contact
Forge Engineering and provide CE
Investigator with an update. R/c JC -16
Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
6/25/2013
6/25/2013
Incomplete
6/25/13 Waiting on Report from 4th
Engineering Firm by HOA Dick Van Deelen.
Deelen has stated to CE Inv that as soon as
he has the report he will forward a copy to out
office. Will continue to monitor. R/c JC -16
Initial Inspection Follow -up
JohnConnetta
8/5/2013
8/5/2013
No Violation
8/5/13 On 5/21/13 Jack McKenna (County
(s) Found
Engineer) determined that this is not a Health
and Safety situation that the seawall needs
some minor repairs but that a permit to make
the repairs is not required. If they were to
change the design of the seawall then plans
and drawings would need to be submitted for
a permit to be issued. No violation at this time.
C/c JC -16.
Enter Case Disposition
JohnConnetta
8/5/2013
8/5/2013
1 Complete
Verify Conditions & Close Case
JosephMucha
8/5/2013
8/5/2013
Complete
Violation Description Status Entered Corrected Amount Comments
Title Reason Result Compliance Fine /Day Condition
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G i rgo vet Deport Title: Code Case Details 3/11/2014 10.A.
Date: 1/9/2014 9:36:12 AM
Case Number: CESD20130006076
Case Type: Site Development
Priority: Normal
Inspector: christopherambach
Case Number: CESD20130006076 _
Status:
Closed
Date & Time Entered:
4/2612013 2:46:41 PM
Entered By:
christopherambach
Case Disposition:
No Violation
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
Origin: Complaint
Detail Description: Complainant states seawall is failing in rear of property and is concerned it will affect others
properties in the community.
Location Comments: 152 Henderson Dr.
Address 52 Henderson DR
Property 49531760003
Complainant DEBBIE GALLUCCI
Property Owner MIRABILIO, JOSEPH C SHEILAGH MIRABILIO
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christopheram
4/26/2013
4/26/2013
Complete
bach
Initial Inspection
christopheram
4/26/2013
4/26/2013
Incomplete
Unable to access rear of property or see from
bach
any other legal viewpoint.. Contact made and
meeting set for May 1 st 2013 at 12:00pm with
owner on site to address issues.
Initial Inspection Follow -up
christopheram
5/2/2013
513/2013
Incomplete
Met with owner who allowed entry to rear and
bach
signed consent. I observed an old wooden
dock that has fallen apart. Photos taken and
will be sent to Engineering for a review and
determination as to how to correct the issues.
Owner advised I will contact him with an
update.
Initial Inspection Follow -up
christopheram
5/14/2013
5/14/2013
Incomplete
Emailed photos and asked Jack McKenna
bach
from Engineering to view the photos and help
determine if a violation exists. Email response
below. I will meet with Mr. McKenna this week
for specifics and update this case accordingly.
_
Unfortunately I think it a bit more complicated,
I think they need a consultant to determine
where the property line is, what DEP
permitting would be needed and what type of
slope stabilization would be best (rip -rap is
accepted as being appropriate as well as
some other solutions). To me the structure
looks unsafe and should be removed but
beyond that how the bulkhead is
reestablished will involve a bit more.
Jack
Jack McKenna P.E.
County Engineer
Growth Management Division
(239) 252 -2911
Update Picture(s)
christopheram
5/14/2013
5/14/2013
Complete
bach
Initial Inspection Follow -up
christopheram
5/21/2013
5/28/2013
No Violation
Meeting with J Letourneau and Engineering
bach
(s) Found
Manager Jack Mcenna and reviewed photos
taken It is Mr. Mcenna's determination that no
requirement as far as seawall is concerned as
well as the entire area in question is filled with
protected mangroves at this point. The
remaining wood dock has decayed and falling
into the canal and will be considered litter at
this point ands will need to be removed. A
seperate case for litter is already opened and
will address the dock. This case will be closed
as far as the seawall is concerned.
-,r Case Disposition
christopheram
5/28/2013
512812013
1 Complete
bach
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Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Verify Conditions & Close Case
IetourneauJ
5/28/2013
5/29/2013
Complete
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -263- 3
{ Violation Description
Status
Entered
Corrected
Amount
Comments
Title
Reason
Result
Compliance
Fine /Day
Condition
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Report Title: Code Case Details 3/11/2014 10.A.
ate: 1/912014 9 :40:58 AM
I Case Number: ICEPM20080016613 I
Case Type: Property Maintenance I
Priority: Normal
- Inspector:jAzureSorrels I
Case Number: CEPM20080016613
Status:
Closed
Date & Time Entered:
11/25/2008 11:18:59 AM
Entered By:
DeliciaPulse
Case Disposition:
No Violation
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
Origin: Anonymous Complaint
Detail Description: Caller states sea wall has a huge hole near it.
Location Comments: ICEPM20080016613Web Code 119
Address 120 SAN SALVADOR ST Naples, FL
Property 52396680001
Property Owner NICKOLAS LLC
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -264- 1
3/11/2014 10.A.
Code Case Details Execution Date 1/9, ..... •,
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Enter Initial Case Information
Delicia Pulse
11/25/2008
11/25/2008
Complete
CEPM20080016613Web Code 119
Initial Inspection
AzureSorrels
11/25/2008
12/30/2008
Incomplete
On 12/3/08 made site visit, observed a small
area by seawall where the ground has sunken
in. Seawall has small crack at the seam where
it connects into next seawall. took photos. will
do some research to determine if it is a
violation.
Initial Inspection
AzureSorrels
12/30/2008
12/31/2008
No Violation
On 12/30/08 did some research and spoke
Steve Fontane from building and Stan
(s) Found
with
from Engineering. I discovered that the county
doesn't conduct inspections on seawalls, so
there isn't anyone in the county that can
declare a seawall as failed. However, Stan did
state he doesn't believe it would be
considered as failed. I spoke with Dave
Scribner and he stated he wouldn't consider it
as failed either. I will make contact with
property owner and inform them of the
complaint and advise they might want
someone to check into the reason of why the
foundation is sinking and have it fixed so it
wouldn't possibly turn into something more. n
violation. case closed.
Enter Case Disposition
AzureSorrels
12/31/2008
12/31/2008
Complete
petrullipatricia
12/31/2008
1/5/2009
Complete
Verify Conditions & Close Case
Violation Description
Title
2
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -265-
Status
Entered
Corrected
Amount
Comments
Reason
Result
Compliance
Fine /Day
Condition
2
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -265-
ate: 1/9/2014 9:12:34 AM
Report Title: Code Case Details
3/11/2014 10.A.
Case Number: CEPM20100007769
Case Number: CEPM20100007769 Status: Closed
Case Type: Property Maintenance Date & Time Entered: 6/4/2010 1:57:16 PM
Priority: Normal Entered By: KimberlyBrandes
Inspector: DeliciaPulse Case Disposition: I Hearing
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
Origin: Anonymous Complaint
Detail Description: SEAWALL NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. SEAWALL CAVING IN CAUSING NEIGHBORING
PROPERTY TO ERODE. (concerned with Owner not reside at location- lives in Texas- all NOV
remain in mailbox- property is forclosure)
Location Comments: 223 1ST ST (LITTLE HICKORY SHORES)
Community Caretaking / NNTF
WEB# 2257
Address 223 1ST ST Naples, FL
Property 55850840009
Historic Owner DERRICK, SILVIA
Payor FLORIDA FORECLOSURES LLC
Property Owner 223 BON LLC % CRAIG D BLUME P A
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -266- 1
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/1 1/201410:A.
Desc
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Required
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Outcome
Comments
Record Violations
JonathanMuss
6/7/2010
6/7/2010
Complete
e
Attach Picture(s)
JonathanMuss
617/2010
6/7/2010
Complete
e
CE Case Research
crowley_m
6/8/2010
6/8/2010
Complete
6/8 reviewed case file. Lis Pendens filed by
bank of new york. Case belongs to
Foreclosure Team 2, not Team 1.
Assign Inspector (CE)
SusanaCapas
6/8/2010
6/8/2010
Complete
Notice of lis pendens filed by Bank of New
so
York. Case and supporting documents
provided to foreclosure team #1 on 6/8/10.
Property address also recorded on the
community caretaking list. #SC46
CE Staff Review
SusanaCapas
6/8/2010
6/8/2010
Complete
223 1ST ST (LITTLE HICKORY SHORES)
so
Community Caretaking / NNTF
Assign Inspector (CE)
petrullipatricia
6/8/2010
6/9/2010
Complete
6/8 Case belongs to Foreclosure Team 2, not
Team 1.- mtc87
CE Case Research
RalphBosa
6/9/2010
6/9/2010
Complete
OPEN CASE REPORT - 06/09/2010 -
Reviewed case and added to spreadsheet.
rb83.
CE Staff Review
RalphBosa
6/9/2010
6/9/2010
Complete
06/09/2010. sent initial violation e-mail to
Bank of NY
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
7/6/2010
7/6/2010
Complete
Sent email request for update.
a
Enter Initial Case Information
KimberlyBran
7/22/2010
6/4/2010
Complete
des
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
7122/2010
7/22/2010
Complete
Received email from BOA advising the loan
a
was paid and they no longer service property.
I was unable to locate any recent
documentation regarding the Foreclosure
process and sent an email request to BNY for
info. I recommend this case be moved forward
under normal Code channels (NOV) by area
Inv in the event OSM /CEB is required. JL -34
advised.
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
7/23/2010
7/27/2010
Non-
7 -26 -10 - On site - violation remains - picts
e
Compliant
taken - will upload current picts to cityview
and send an e-mail to Inv Santafemia with
picts attach to show in the status of the
violation - will continue to monitor
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
7/30/2010
7/30/2010
Complete
Due to prior email received from BAC /BOA
a
case toted to area Inv for follow -up.
CE Staff Review
Ietourneau_j
7/30/2010
7/30/2010
Complete
Due to Bank of America's statement that they
no longer have interest in this property, loan
being paid off, & a concerned complainant,
case will be turned back over to District
Supervisor Capasso. JL #34
CE Staff Review
SusanaCapas
7/30/2010
11/19/2010
Complete
QAR: Reviewing case found mention of an e
so
mail - am pursuing it to verify whether or not ;
violation exists before proceeding with
enforcement.
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Comments
CE Legal Review
jenniferbaker
7/30/2010
7/8/2011
Rejected
Returned packet to RB83 for review. JB44
CE Legal Review
jenniferbaker
7/30/2010
7/29/2011
Schedule
for SM /CEB
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
8/24/2010
8/24/2010
Non-
8 -24 -10 - On site - no change in violation -
e
Compliant
case was just returned back to me from the
foreclosure team - will prepare this case for
hearing on 8 -31 -10 - will continue to monitor
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
8/31/2010
8/31/2010
Non-
e
Compliant
8 -31 -10 - unable to re- inspect this case - will
address this issued on 9 -2 -10
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
9/2/2010
9/2/2010
Non-
9 -2 -10 - as I was preparing the case for OSM,
e
Compliant
realized that a NOV was never issued - will
send NOV certified, 1 st Class mail, also will
post at the courthouse and on the property -
will continue to monitor
Personal Service Attempt
JonathanMuss
9/7/2010
9/7/2010
Complete
9 -7 -10 - On site posted NOV on property and
e
in courthouse also will send NOV 1 st class
and certified mail - will continue to monitor
CE Mailing
ShirleyGarcia
9/8/2010
9/10/2010
Complete
CE Phone all
KimberlyBran
9/15/2010
9/15/2010
Complete
call: 5min KB
_
des
Caller checking status of case. Will need to
wear special boots or something and will step
on the water pipe shut off and is burried and
can not see it if stepped on will cut the water
pipes- they will be without water. USE
extreem caution.!!
Complainant is wondering if its possible to
have the coconut tree trimmed too.
Concerend with the coconut with the
storms. /kb
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
10/6/2010
10/8/2010
Non-
10 -6 -10 - On site - violation remains - will
e
Compliant
prepare this case to appear before the Special
Magistrate on 10 -13 -10
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
10/13/2010
10/19/2010
Requires
10 -19 -10 - Completed packet for OSM and
e
Hearing
turned it in to Sup Capasso for review - will
continue to monitor
Assign Hearing Type
JonathanMuss
10/19/2010
10/19/2010
Special
e
Magistrate
Hearing
CE Staff Review
SusanaCapas
10/24/2010
10/24/2010
Complete
QAR: Seawall. Vacant property. Case was
so
turned over to foreclosure team and returned
to area investigator. Case prepared for OSM
hearing; forms turned in to JW44 on 11/5/10.
Not Applicable
SusanaCapas
10/24/2010
10/24/2010
Not
so
Required
CE Supervisor Review (SM)
SusanaCapas
10/25/2010
11/4/2010
Rejected
In reviewing case found the notice of violation
so
should have quoted Article IX - Seawalls and
Revetments. Will return case to investigator
to reissue notice of violation allowing
reasonable time to allow coordination with
Foreclosure teams. #SC46
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!CE Staff Review
JonathanMuss
11/4/2010
11/5/2010
Complete
Jon: you will need to reissue the notice of
I
e
violation citing the ordinance specific to
seawalls and revetments: Article IX, Sec 22-
321 to Sec 22 -325. See me if you have any
questions. #SC46
11 -5 -10 - met with Jack McKenna, Manager of
Engineering Review Services, he stated that
he'll conduct a sight inspection to verify that a
code violation exist on this property. R/C 11-
19-10
CE Staff Review
KimberlyBran
11/9/2010
11/9/2010
Complete
CALL: 10 MIN KB
des
CALLER CHECKING STATUS OF CASE.
READ THE UPDATES. GAVE CASE
NUMBER SINCE I HAD TO SEARCH THE
ORIGINAL CASE DUE TO HER CLAIMING
NOT TO HAVE CASE NUMBER- FOR THIS
SEAWALL COMPLAINT. READ THE
UPDATES ON THE CASE- CALLER WAS
VERY SARCASM ABOUT CODE
ENFORCEMENT AND THE PROCESS.
REALLY DID NOT WANT TO HEAR
ANYTHING AS FAR AS THE UPDATES
ALTHOUGH THAT WAS WHAT THE CALL
WAS MADE FOR. REFUSED TO SPEAK
WITH INVESTIGATOR AND SUPERVISOR
FOR MORE DETAILS- CALLED OUT
NAMES AND EXPRESSED HER NEGATIVE
OPIONS ALONG WITH THREAT TO CALL
COMMISSIONERS- THEN DEMANDED TO
OPEN CASES ON WEEDS AND LITTER ON
THE PROPERTY- HOWEVER ONE FOR
EACH WAS ALREADY OPENED BY THE
AREA INVESTIGATOR WHO IS WORKING
THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT ABATED.
GAVE CALLER ALL THREE CASE NUMBER
WITH THEIR VIOLATION AND LOCATION
INFORMATION FOR TRACKING
PURPOSES SO THE NEXT UPDATE CALL-
THE STAFF WOULD NOT HAVE TO
SEARCH AND BE ABLE TO ASSIST
CALLER FASTER. /KB
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
11/19/2010
11/19/2010
Non-
11-19-10- Recieved an e -mail from Jack
e
Compliant
McKenna, he states, "I went out to look at the
Seawall. Certainly I feel the wall is in need of
work (as is the rest of the property) however I
am not aware of a law requiring it to be
maintained. Certainly as the owner I would
want to be doing something before failure but
I don't know what the County can do (maybe
there is something I am not aware of)." will
met with Sup Capasso to see how she would
like me to address this issue - will continue to
monitor
CE Legal Review
jenniferbaker
11/19/2010
6/16/2011
Rejected
Returned packet to RB83 for review. JB55
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Desc
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Outcome
Comments
Re- Inspection
JonathanMuss
12/20/2010
12/21/2010
Non-
12 -20 -10 - Mr. McKenna responded to my e-
e
Compliant
mail and informed me that he found an
ordinance that that I could use for this
violation - Ordinance 85 -2, Section 2, Failed
Seawall Or Revetment Declared To Be
Unlawful And A Public Nuisance - have to re-
issue NOV with the correct ordinance - will
also post on the property and in courthouse
Personal Service Attempt
JonathanMuss
12/21/2010
12/21/2010
Complete
12 -21 -10 - On site - posted NOV on property
e
and at courthouse - also send NOV 1st class
mail - will continue to monitor
CE Mailing
shirleygarcia
12/21/2010
12/21/2010
Complete
NOV MAILED REG.
CE Staff Review
KimberlyBran
12/21/2010
12/21/2010
Complete
AOM ATTACH. /KB
des
Not Applicable
JonathanMuss
12/28/2010
12/29/2010
Not
e
Required
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
1/5/2011
1/7/2011
Non-
1 -6 -11 on site and I received permission from
Compliant
neighboring property to go to the back yard at
219. 1 did not observe the seawall in
disrepair at this location photo taken. I will
confer with JM04.Hdsp
CE Staff Review
IetourneauJ
1/7/2011
1/7/2011
Complete
While reviewing the 45 day report, I found this
case in Investigator Musse's name. Because
a hearing date has not been set, I am
transfering it to Supervisor Capasso. JL #34
CE Staff Review
SusanaCapas
1/13/2011
1/19/2011
Complete
following up with investigator who originally
so
worked the case regarding an e -mail he
mentions received from Jack McKenna;
searched case documents and find it is not
attached.
Assign Inspector (CE)
MarleneSerra
1/27/2011
2/15/2011
Complete
no
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
2/3/2011
2/2/2011
Non-
2 -1 -11 On site and spoke to the property
Compliant
owner at the west who gave me permission to
access back yard by her property. Photos
taken. I will need to move forward. Neighbor
states this problem is causing problems with
her property. / /dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
2/3/2011
2/4/2011
Non-
Speak to MS99
Compliant
2 -4 -11 spoke to MS99 and advised of date on
NOV and she stated reissue NOV./ /dsp
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
2/4/2011
2/4/2011
Complete
Research of paperwork done in case and I
observe the last NOV compliance date was
not correct. I will speak to MS99 / /dsp
Generate Notice of Violation
DeliciaPulse
2/8/2011
2/14/2011
Complete
CE Mailing
shirleygarcia
2/14/2011
2/16/2011
Complete
Please mail certified and regular to address
(address of record) on NOV and courtesy
regular to: Sylvia Derrick 1801 Holly Trail,
Cedar Park, TX 78613 --- thx/ /dsp
2/15/11 could not send out was in Susana
Capasso name and NOV was in Susana C.
name DP #55 changed the nov and will mail
out 2/16/11
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Required
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Outcome
Comments
CE Staff Review
DeliciaPulse
2/16/2011
2/16/2011
Complete
2 -16 -11 Edited NOV and had mailed / /dsp
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
2/18/2011
2/18/2011
Complete
Post property and courthouse / /dsp
2 -17 -11 1 posted the property and will post
courthouse tomorrow — adjusting date / /dsp
2 -18 -11 this property is vacant and in final
judgement and will need to be submitted to
forclosure team #2. / /dsp
2 -18 -11 posted the courthouse / /dsp
CE Staff Review
DeliciaPulse
2/18/2011
2/22/2011
Complete
generate affidavit of posting / /dsp
CE Supervisor Review (misc)
MarleneSerra
2/22/2011
2/23/2011
Complete
2 -18 -11 This property is vacant and in final
no
judgement and will need to be submitted to
forclosure team #2 / /DSP
Dee, foreclosure team was unable to obtain
compliance from Bank. Please preapre case
for hearing when the NOV expires, if no
abatement. MS99
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
2/28/2011
2/28/2011
Complete
2 -28 -11 After reserching the activities in case
I spoke to JS38 who sent an a mail to bank for
any info available. The compliance date is
March 14th. I will check for any reply from
bank on that day and if none will be forwarded
for hearing. / /dsp
2 -28 -11 1 received an email from JS38 stating
he has the banks attention and to verify if
property is vacant./ /dsp
3-1 -11 1 made a site visit I did not get any
response at either door as this is a duplex.
While knocking on one door the interior
sounds hollow but the other door does not. I
will make another site visit. / /dsp
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
317/2011
3/7/2011
Complete
3 -4 -11 On site and no one was on the
property. I attempted contact with neighbors
to verify if property vacant. I spoke to a
female who stated she was close with the
neighbor to the west of structure and she
states the property has been vacant at least
one year. I sent an a mail to JS38 to verify
structure vacant. / /dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
3/18/2011
3/18/2011
Non-
2 -22 -11 Submitted paperwork to MS99 to
Compliant
forward to FT #2 / /dsp
Compliance date March 14th.
3 -15 -11 Spoke to JS38 who stated the bank
is responding to this property. I sent an a mail
to him asking for a status. I will wait a couple
of days for a reply. / /dsp Adjust date
3 -18 -11 1 spoke to JS38 and he sent another
e mail today to the bank and we will touch
base middle of next week to see if there is any
reply or weather we need to go to
hearing //dsp
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Desc
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Outcome
Comments
Initial Inspection
JonathanMuss
3/18/2011
6/7/2010
Violation(s)
6 -7 -2010 on site obtained permission from
e
Found
neighbor Jodi Scehecton to use her back yard
to view violation. Observed a damaged
seawall in need of repair -- checked clerk of
courts and found an assignment of mortgage
or 4553 pg 2544 will TOT case to supervisor
Capasso for review so that tshe may TOT to
foreclosure team. Photos taken
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
3/24/2011
3/24/2011
Non-
3 -24 -11 1 have received e mail
Compliant
correspondence from JS38 stating the bank is
looking into it but I should go forward with the
hearing process. Prepare case for
hearing / /dsp
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
3/24/2011
3/25/2011
Complete
3 -25 -11 1 have received a message /e mail
from JS38 to hold off that he is getting
information from the bank. Monitor. / /dsp
CE Phone Call
DeliciaPulse
3/30/2011
3/30/2011
Complete
3 -30 -11 1 received an email from RB83
asking to give a call to Marshal Watson 954-
453 -0365 x 1862 from a message left on his
phone. I called and received a voice mail of
Irene Phillips and I left a voice message. / /dsp
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
4/5/2011
4/5/2011
Complete
Call: 5min kB
des
Caller checking status of case. Read updates.
States that investigators always knows can
use their property to see violation. Refused to
speak with investigator. Calling in another
violation. /kb
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
4/6/2011
4/11/2011
Non-
4 -6 -11 From 3 -30 -11 to 4 -6 -11 1 have
Compliant
received e mails with the following info from
our forclosure team: [ (4 -6 -11) Dee, as an
update... I am working with two separate
preservation companies on this property. One
will be addressing the seawall and the other
will address any remaining issues.] I have
attached the e mail to the case
documents. / /dsp
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
4/11/2011
4/12/2011
Complete
3 /31:Received email from Kelly Zingale @
a
Safeguard who advises she has obtained and
submitted bids to replace the seawall. She will
advise on updates.
Kelly Zingale
Claims Estimator /Repair Specialist
Safeguard Properties
1 -800- 852 -8306 ext 1294
kelly .zingale @safeguardproperties.com
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
4/26/2011
4/26/2011
Complete
Sent email request for update to Kelly.
a
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
4/26/2011
4/26/2011
Complete
CALL: 5MIN KB
des
CALLER CHECKING STATUS OF CASE
AND READ THE UPDATES. CALLER VERY
SARCASTIC OVER THE PHONE. ALSO
CHECKED MULT OTHER CASES. /KB
nspection
DeliciaPulse
4/28/2011
4/28/2011
Non-
4 -27 -11 JS38 came to get the file to look at to
Compliant
help him with communication with bank / /dsp
Working with the bank to get abatement and
working along side of the FT #2. / /dsp
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Comments
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
5/10/2011
5/10/2011
Complete
Received call from Kelly Z advising contractor
a
is reporting property as occupied. Agreed to
meet contractor on -site to verify vacant, left
message for Contractor "Steve" @ 850 -208-
3186 to call back and arrange meet. Made an
onsite inspection myself and noted dwelling is
a duplex and both units are empty with no
furnishings or occupants. Sent info to Kelly Z.
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
5/10/2011
5/11/2011
Non-
5 -11 -11 1 am monitoring along with the
Compliant
forclosure team. / /dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
5/23/2011
5/23/2011
Non-
5 -23 -11 I received email notification from
Compliant
JS38 of the forclosure team that the lender is
not abating and will need to prepare for
hearing. //dsp
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
5/24/2011
5/23/2011
Complete
Received email from kelly @ Safeguard who
a
advises the Bank is not moving to abate this
violation. I recommend the case be prepared
for hearing as soon as possible. Safeguard
advised of same.
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
5/24/2011
6/1/2011
Requires
5 -31 -11 Submitted paperwork for hearing.
Hearing
Monitor. //dsp
5 -31 -11 Make on site visit.
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
5/31/2011
5/31/2011
Complete
5 -31 -11 Preparing all paperwork for
submittal //dsp
CE Supervisor Review (misc)
RalphBosa
5/31/2011
6/1/2011
Complete
5 -31 -11 1 submitted CEB Hearing paperwork
for review. / /dsp
6/1/2011. please make changes and resubmit.
rb83.
Assign Hearing Type
RalphBosa
6/1/2011
6/1/2011
Special
Magistrate
Hearing
CE Supervisor Review (SM)
MarleneSerra
6/1/2011
6/1/2011
Rejected
please make changes.
no
CE Staff Review
DeliciaPulse
6/3/2011
6/7/2011
Complete
CE Supervisor Review (SM)
RalphBosa
6/7/2011
6/7/2011
Complete
changes made.
Attach Picture(s)
DeliciaPulse
6/8/2011
6/8/2011
Complete
6 -8 -11 On site today and took photos.
Violation Remains / /dsp
CE Staff Review
johnsantafemi
6/14/2011
6/14/2011
Complete
No movement from lender. Case tot'd back for
a
hearing process.
CE Supervisor Review (SM)
RalphBosa
6/20/2011
6/22/2011
Complete
re- submitted with correction.
CE Staff Review
DeliciaPulse
7/11/2011
7/14/2011
Complete
Please make required changes to packet and
re- submit. JB44
7 -14 -11 Made changes and submitted to
supervisor Bosa. / /dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
7/22/2011
7/25/2011
Non-
7 -25 -11 Made corrections to hearing packet
Compliant
and gave to Supervisor BosaHdsp
CE Supervisor Review (SM)
RalphBosa
7/27/2011
7/27/2011
Complete
Coorections made and re- submitted for
review. rb83.
CE Staff Review
Ietourneau_j
7/27/2011
7/29/2011
Complete
I closed this activity while going through the a.
unassigned activity folder. JL #34
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -273- 8
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/11/2014 10:A.
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
8/3/2011
8/3/2011
Non-
8 -3 -11 Paperwork has been submitted and
Compliant
approved for hearing and now waiting for
date. / /dsp
Generate Hearing Notice (CE)
KerryAdams
8/10/2011
8/10/2011
Complete
8/18/11 NOH sent regular mail, evidence
packet sent certified -ka
Post Courthouse
DeliciaPulse
8/16/2011
8/16/2011
Complete
8 -15 -11 1 posted the property at approx
1:35pm/ /dsp
8 -17 -11 Created AOP and had notarized and
given to Kerry. / /dsp
Post Courthouse
boxheinz
8/16/2011
8/16/2011
Complete
Investigator Box will post courthouse / /dsp
same done HB #17
Update Picture(s)
boxheinz
8/16/2011
8/16/2011
Complete
Schedule Case for Hearing
KerryAdams
8/17/2011
8/10/2011
Complete
Case scheduled for OSM on 9- 2 -11 -ka
CE Phone Call
DeliciaPulse
8/30/2011
8/30/2011
Complete
I am documenting that on October 25, 2010 1
had spoken to the owner of record Silvia
Derrick in reference to another property she
owns which had violations and she advised
that she is in Texas with her ailing Mother and
does not have the money to work on the
property. The number called from was 512-
317- 6707. / /dsp
P� Hearing Inspection
DeliciaPulse
9/1/2011
9/1/2011
Complete
9 -1 -11 on site and the violation remains.
Photos taken and attached to case. / /dsp
r.o- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
9/1/2011
9/1/2011
Non-
8 -17 -11 1 am adjusting this date due to I am
Compliant
out of the office/ /dsp
8 -26 -11 Date of hearing is September 2,
2011 gam./ /dsp
I will adjust the recheck date for prehearing
inspection. / /dsp
9 -1 -11 on site and no change. Hearing on 9 -2
-11/ /dsp
Record Hearing Results
jenniferbaker
9/6/2011
9/8/2011
Complete
Respondent ordered to repair or re- construct
seawall, obtaining any required collier county
building permits, inspections and certificate of
completion /occupancy by 10/2/11 or $200per
day will be imposed and pay operational cost
of $112.38 within 30 days. JB44
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
9/14/2011
9/15/2011
Non-
9 -2 -11 Respondent found in violation and an
Compliant
order to correct by 10/2/11 was issued by
Special Magistrate. / /dsp
CE Staff Review
IlianaBurgos
9/30/2011
9/30/2011
Complete
Payoff provided to Craig D Blume, PA on
9/30/11 - ib
Post Hearing Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
10/3/2011
10/4/2011
Non-
10 -3 -11 No permit applied for at this
Compliant
date. / /dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
10/3/2011
10/4/2011
Non-
10 -3 -11 on site and the violation remains.
Compliant
Photos taken and attached to case. / /dsp
Update Picture(s)
DeliciaPulse
10/4/2011
10/4/2011
Complete
Not Applicable
DeliciaPulse
10/4/2011
10/4/2011
Not
_
Required
-egal Review
jenniferbaker
10/7/2011
10/19/2011
Schedule
IOF
for SM /CEB
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -274-
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/11/2014 10:A.
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Generate Hearing Results Notice
jenniferbaker
10/27/2011
10/19/2011
Complete
Scanned order into G -Drive and Cityview. OR
(CE)
Book 4721/PG 2834. Respondent ordered to
repair or re- construct seawall, obtaining any
required collier county building permits,
inspections and certificate of
completion /occupancy by 10/2/11 or $200per
day will be imposed and pay operational cost
of $112.38 within 30 days. JB44
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
11/4/2011
11/4/2011
Non-
11 -4 -11 on site and the violation remains.
Compliant
Photos taken and attached to case.
monitor. / /dsp
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
11/7/2011
11/7/2011
Complete
Call: 5min kb
des
Caller checking status of case. I read the
updates. Caller was happy to know of impose
of fines- shocked it only as of 10/2/11 of this
year since it had been ongoing problem for
very long time. I offered caller to speak with
Kerry- for more details of hearing process -
Jen -for Impose of Fines process and
invesigator for more details of case. Caller
declined offer. Caller will check back again for
more updates for next r/c 12/5 onsite
notes. /kb
Generate Hearing Notice (CE)
KerryAdams
11/9/2011
11/9/2011
Complete
Post Courthouse
DeliciaPulse
11/14/2011
11/15/2011
Complete
11 -14 -11 Received posting notification for
Imposition of Fines Hearing for 12 -2 -11. Post
property and courthouse. / /dsp
11 -15 -11 1 posted both property and
courthouse today. I created and AOP and
submitted to be processed. Photos taken and
attached to case./ /dsp
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
11/15/2011
11/16/2011
Complete
11 -15 -11 on site and I observed a van in the
driveway and a man scraping the soffit. I
observed two newly installed front doors. I
spoke to the man and he called a man named
Bill Shaner 239 - 465 -3263. 1 was advised the
property has been purchased by an invester
and that quotes for the seawall will be
obtained. I have spoken to JB44 and we are
going to pull the case from the December 2nd
OSM hearing and give some time for the new
owner to complete. Hearing for imposition of
fines will be rescheduled for January. I will
advise Bill Shaner —sent a mail. / /dsp
Schedule Case for Hearing
KerryAdams
11/16/2011
11/9/2011
Complete
Case scheduled for OS IOF on 12- 2 -11 -ka
CE Staff Review
KerryAdams
12/6/2011
11/16/2011
Complete
Changed record hearing results to CE staff
review, case withdrawn, new owner may
abate, will bring back in Jan
CE Case Research
RalphBosa
12/9/2011
12/9/2011
Complete
STOP THE BLEED - owner was not aware of
Hearing and IOF, rb83.
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -275- 10
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/11 /2014 10:A.
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Pre Hearing Inspection
DeliciaPulse
12/20/2011
12/21/2011
Complete
I have discussed with Kerri the
communication coming for Bill Shaner —owner
representative and they are in the process of
getting quotes for repair. We will continue to
monitor and we agreed to wait until hearing in
February. //dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
12/20/2011
12/21/2011
Non-
12 -21 -11 1 have had great communication
Compliant
from Bill Shaner who is a contact representing
owner of this property and they have been
working on getting estimates for seawall
repair. Most recent a mail stated the
following: "Have reached an agreement with
Greg Orick Marine Construction to resolve the
code issues. I have authorized a survey if the
property. Once I receive that, Greg will make
application fora building permit." I have
researched permit activity and none is
showing at this time. I feel processes are
moving forward. I will continue to
monitor. / /dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
1/6/2012
1/9/2012
Non-
1 -9 -12 On January 3rd, 2012 1 received an e
Compliant
mail from Bill Shaner advising "signed a
contract with Greg Odrick Marine Construction
on Friday, gave him a survey and deposit to
get permit. Should be making application this
week." I have checked for any permit activity
and find none. I will Monitor for permit. //dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
1/12/2012
1/12/2012
Non-
Check permit activity/ /dsp
Compliant
1 -12 -11 No permit activity found — monitor and
check one more time —if none call contact for
status. //dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
1/18/2012
1/19/2012
Non-
1 -19 -12 1 have researched permit activity and
Compliant
find none. I will call Bill Shaner 239 - 465 -3263
and advise of pending hearing and get
update. / /dsp
CE Phone Call
DeliciaPulse
1/19/2012
1/19/2012
Complete
Bill Shaner 239 - 465- 3263//dsp
1 -19 -12 1 called and spoke to Bill Shaner and
he advised the Marine company needed an
elevation certificate and he obtained that and
he will call to see what the status is on getting
permit and let me know. / /dsp
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
1/24/2012
1/24/2012
Complete
call: 5kb
des
Caller checking status of case. I read the
updates. Caller wanted to speak with
investigator since case has been on going for
2 yrs. /kb
CE Phone Call
DeliciaPulse
1/24/2012
1/24/2012
Complete
1 -24 -12 Spoke to caller and advised of what
the new owners are doing and advised of
permit has been supmitted and is "UNDER
REVIEW" building department has until 1 -27-
12 to accept or reject. Permit number is
PRBD20120101298. Monitor. / /dsp
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -276- 11
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/11 /2014 10:A.
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
1/30/2012
1/30/2012
Complete
1 -30 -12 1 received an a mail from Bill Shaner
advising the work is complete and an
inspection would be called.Hdsp
Permit PRBD20120101298 was issued on 1-
27- 12Hdsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
2/3/2012
2/6/2012
Non-
2 -6 -12 research of permit activity shows on 1-
Compliant
31 -12 final building inspection completed and
passed. Waiting for "CO ". emailed
corrdinator to advise. //dsp
CE Case Research
DeliciaPulse
2/7/2012
2/7/2012
Complete
2 -7 -12 1 was notified by Coordinator that "CO"
has been issued. Confirmed "CO" issued
February 7th, 2012. violation abated. //dsp
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
2/10/2012
2/10/2012
Non-
Talk to supervisor Bosa about case —has been
Compliant
to hearing, now in compliance ? ??
2 -7 -12 1 spoke to supervisor Bosa and I will
create AOC and we will consult with J.
Baker. //dsp
Spoke to J. Baker and there will need to be
IOF and I need to advise new owner of the
operational costs still due. / /dsp
2 -7 -12 Submitted AOC to K. Adams to
process. //dsp
2 -7 -12 1 sent an email to Bill Shaner advising
of Ops Cost that are due. / /dsp
2 -8 -12 1 received a reply from Bill and he
advised to let him know what needs to be
done. I sent a mail advising of the OPS cost
and how and where to pay it. I advisied there
needs to be an IOF hearing also and
notificatioin will be sent to owner of when that
is. / /dsp
Generate Hearing Notice (CE)
KerryAdams
2/13/2012
2/13/2012
Complete
2 -14 -12 NOH sent regular mail, evidence
packet sent certified -ka
Schedule Case for Hearing
KerryAdams
2/13/2012
2/13/2012
Complete
will need to go to IOF, spoke with Dee, she
said people are at the property working on
abatement -ka
2 -7 -12 Kerry AOC submitted to you
today / /dsp
waiting to see if they pay the ops costs -ka
case scheduled for OSM IOF on 3- 2 -12 -ka
Post Courthouse
DeliciaPulse
2/14/2012
2/15/2012
Complete
2 -14 -12 posted NOH for Imposition of Fines
at property at approx 105pm today. photo
taken and attached to case.Hdsp
2 -15 -12 Posted the courthouse. photo taken
and attached to case. AOP created and
submitted to be processed. //dsp
LCE Staff Review
KerryAdams
3/1/2012
2/13/2012
Complete
inspection not needed, case is compliant -ka
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -277 - 12
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/11w. O.A.
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Re- Inspection
DeliciaPulse
3/2/2012
3/5/2012
Compliant
Check payment of OPS cost. / /dsp
2 -14 -12 OPS Cost paid today in full. / /dsp
IOF Hearing set for March 2, 2012. Recheck
date set for that date. / /dsp
2 -15 -12 1 sent an email to Bill to advised of
posting the property and date of hearing and
thank him for the payment. / /dsp
3 -5 -12 Hearing completed and Bill Shaner
was present as representative. IOF was not
approved and therefore due to compliance of
property fines waived. Case closed.
violations abated. / /dsp
Generate Compliance Letter
DeliciaPulse
3/5/2012
3/5/2012
Complete
Enter Case Disposition
DeliciaPulse
3/5/2012
3/5/2012
Complete
CE Mailing
DeliciaPulse
3/5/2012
3/5/2012
Complete
Verify Conditions & Close Case
RalphBosa
3/5/2012
3/7/2012
Complete
Record Hearing Results
jenniferbaker
3/6/2012
3/6/2012
Complete
All fines waived by the Special Magistrate at
hearing on 3/2/12. JB44
CE Staff Review
jenniferbaker
3/6/2012
3/6/2012
Complete
Changed post hearing re- inspection to CE
Staff review as case is closed and activity is
not needed. JB44
erate Hearing Results Notice
jenniferbaker
4/6/2012
4/17/2012
Complete
Scanned order into G -Drive and cityview. OR
book 4776/PG 2828. All fines waived by the
Special Magistrate at hearing on 3/2/12. JB44
Violation Description
Status
Entered
Corrected
Amount
Comments
Foundation - Dwelling
Corrected
6/9/2010
2/7/2012
$0
Operational Costs -ka
Title
Reason
Result
Compliance
Fine /Day
Condition
Special Magistrate Hearing on 9/2/11
Code Review
Guilty
10/2/2011
$200
Operational Costs -ka
Scanned order into G -Drive and Cityview. OR
Book 4721/PG 2834. Respondent ordered to
repair or re- construct seawall, obtaining any
required collier county building permits,
inspections and certificate of
completion /occupancy by 10/2/11 or $200per
day will be imposed and pay operational cost
of $112.38 within 30 days. JB44
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -278- 13
Cjolergovxet
Date: 1/9/2014 9:15:02 AM
Report Title: Code Case Details 3/11/2014 10.A.
Case Number: CESD20080003329
Case Number:
CESD20080003329
Case Type:
Site Development
Priority:
Normal
Inspector:
JohnConnetta
Status:
Closed
Date & Time Entered:
3/7/2008 1:44:22 PM
Entered By:
JohnConnetta
Case Disposition:
Abated
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
Origin: Written
Detail Description: Seawall collasping in rear of 236 Harbor Place in Goodland
Location Comments.-1236 Harbor Place
Address 236 HARBOR PL N Goodland, FL
Property 46273240004
Complainant Elaine Ritchie
Property Owner SANDLIN, ALAN L & LINDA J
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -279- 1
Code Case Details
3/11/2014 10.A.
Execution Date 1/9, , , , ".,
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Enter Initial Case Information
JohnConnetta
3/7/2008
3/7/2008
Complete
Initial Inspection
JohnConnetta
3/7/2008
3/7/2008
Violation(s)
On site observed that the seawall in rear of
Found
the property has collasped and is washing
away into the Marco River from erosion and
corrision and high and low tides. The collasp
has caused soil to wash away up to
approximately 1 feet way from the house
foundation. Photos taken and attached to
case in G- drive. Will research and monitor. JC
-16.
Record Violations
JohnConnetta
3/7/2008
3/7/2008
Complete
Attach Picture(s)
JohnConnetta
3/7/2008
3/7/2008
Complete
In G- Drive.
Generate Notice of Violation
JohnConnetta
3/7/2008
3/7/2008
Complete
CE Staff Review
DeliciaPulse
3/10/2008
3/10/2008
Complete
MAILED NOV CERTIFIED MAIL WITH
ORDINANCE TRACK # 7007 1490 0001
0804 4973
CE Phone Call
JohnConnetta
3/17/2008
3/18/2008
Complete
Rec'd telephone call from Jim Schuck,
Contractor from Marco Marine Construction
_
who stated that he has a signed contract from
Alan Sandlin to obtain all Permits to repair the
Seawall located in the rear of 236 & 238
Harbor PI N Goodland, FL. Schuck's office fax
me a copy of the contract that will be attached
to the case. JC -16.
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
4/10/2008
4/17/2008
Non-
On site property looks the same. Spoke with
Compliant
tenant Rita about taken some photos to stay
up to date of the progress of the seawall being
rebuilt. Photos taken and attached to case.
Attach Picture(s)
JohnConnetta
4/10/2008
4/17/2008
Complete
CE Phone Call
JohnConnetta
4/16/2008
4/17/2008
Complete
Telephoned Mr. Schuck from Marco Marine
Construction and left message for him to
contact me. At approximately 1430 Hrs., Mr.
Schuck called and left a vioce message that
he is still waiting to hear from the State of
Florida and as soon as he hears back on the
OK and start the work he will responded in
and obatined the proper Collier County
permits. R/c 5/10/08. JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
5/14/2008
5/14/2008
Non-
On site violation remains the same.No work
Compliant
going on at this time. Permits have not been
approved and granted. Property Owner and
Contractor are waiting for approval from the
State of Florida. Will continue to monitor. R/c
6/13/08. Jc -16.
Update Pictures)
JohnConnetta
5/14/2008
5/14/2008
Complete
In G- Drive. JC -16
"inspection
JohnConnetta
6/17/2008
6/17/2008
Non-
On site violation still remains. Permits are still
Compliant
awaiting approval from the State of Fla.
Willcontinue to monitor. JC -16. R/c 7/16/08.
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -280- 2
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/11 /2014 10:A.
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
7/16/2008
7/18/2008
Non-
Status has not change. Still waiting for
Compliant
approval from the State of Florida. R/c
8/18/08. JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
8/21/2008
8/21/2008
Non-
On site no work being performed. Still waiting
Compliant
for approval by State of Florida. R/c 9/22/08.
JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
9/22/2008
9/22/2008
Non-
A check on CDPIus revealed that permits are
Compliant
still in apply status with CDES. R/c 10/22/08.
JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
10/22/2008
10/13/2008
Non-
10/13/08 On site status has not changed.
Compliant
Permits are still in applied status. R/c
11/13/08. JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
11/13/2008
11/1712008
Non-
11/17/08 Status has not changed. Permits are
Compliant
still in applied status. Will continue to monitor.
R/c 12/17/08. Jc -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
12/17/2008
12/16/2008
Non-
12/15/08 On site construction still be
Compliant
conducted on seawall. Permits have been
issued and are active. R/c 01/16/09. JC -16
CE Staff Review
JohnConnetta
1/6/2009
1/6/2009
Complete
Open Case Report: Permitting Case, permit is
valid for 6 months. JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
1/16/2009
1/28/2009
Non-
1/27/09 A check on CD Plus revealed that
Compliant
Permit has been issued and has not been
CO'ed at this time. R/c 2/27/09. JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
2/27/2009
3/2/2009
Non-
3/2/09 A check on CD Plus revealed that
Compliant
Permits are still in issued status. R/c 4/2/09.
JC -16
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
4/10/2009
4/10/2009
Non-
4/10/09 Permits are still active and seawall is
Compliant
almost completed. JC -16
CE Phone Call
JohnConnetta
4/10/2009
4/10/2009
Complete
4/10/09 Telephoned Jim at Marco Marine to
check on status of case and to let him know
that the permits are due to expire on 5/19/09.
Jim is aware and stated thatt he job will be
done by then. JC -16
Not Applicable
JohnConnetta
5/13/2009
5/13/2009
Not
Required
Enter Case Disposition
JohnConnetta
5/13/2009
5/13/2009
Complete
Verify Conditions & Close Case
SusanaCapas
5/13/2009
6/17/2009
Complete
ISO
Re- Inspection
JohnConnetta
5/21/2009
5/13/2009
Compliant
5/13/09 A check on CD Plus revealed that
Permit was CO'ed on 5/11/2009. Vioaltion
abated. Close case. JC -16
Violation Description
Status
Entered
Corrected
Amount
Comments
Building Permit LDC
Corrected
3/7/2008
5/13/2009
$0
Title Reason Result Compliance Fine /Day Condition I
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -281- 3
C f l�r nrxet Report Title: Code Case Details 3/11/2014 10.A.
❑ate: 1/9/2014 9:27:23 AM
Case Number: CESD20110015797
Case Type: Site Development
Priority: Normal
Inspector: petrullipatricia
Case Number: CESD20110015797
Status:
Closed
Date & Time Entered:
11/14/2011 11:28:58 AM
Entered By:
rajahindira
Case Disposition: I
No Violation
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
Origin: Anonymous Complaint
Detail Description: Seawall caving into neighbor's boundry causing safety hazard. Owner was contacted but has
not taken any steps to resolve the problem
Location Comments: 1178 /180 TAHITI CIRCLE (DUPLEX)
Address 178 TAHITI CIR
Property 52390840009
Property Owner KOCIK, PETER D & BREDA
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -282- 1
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Execution Date 1/9, 3/11/2014 10:A.
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Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Enter Initial Case Information
rajahindira
11/14/2011
11/14/2011
Complete
Initial Inspection
MicheleMcgon
11/14/2011
12/21/2011
Incomplete
I made a site visit on 11/16/2011 and obtained
agle
pemission from the tenant to enter the rear
yard to investigate the sea wall complaint. I
observed large holes along the edge of the
sea wall where the dirt has been washed
away and the seawall is no longer being
supported on the land side, but the sea wall is
intact. I took pictures and entered them into
the case. Further research is needed to
determine if a violation exists since the sea
wall is not failing. I will attempt to contact the
property owner and ask them to fill in the
holes.
Attach Picture(s)
MicheleMcgon
11/16/2011
11/17/2011
Complete
agle
Update Picture(s)
MicheleMcgon
12/19/2011
12/21/2011
Complete
Researching for correct ordinance do to
agle
recent amendments
CE Phone Call
MicheleMcgon
12/21/2011
12/21/2011
Complete
I attempted to contact the property owner,
agle
Peter Kocik using a phone number I found on
yellowbook.com (389 -8812) but there was nc
answer and I was unable to leave a message
because there was no machine
Initial Inspection Follow -up
AzureBotts
12/27/2011
1/4/2012
Incomplete
On 12/28/11 sent an email to John
Houldsworth asking for a determination on
seawall. I provided pictures and asked if wall
would be considered failing. I received a
response from Couonty Engineer Jack
McKenna stating the seawall wasn't failing;
however, the wall needed some maintenance.
I asked if the maintenance could be
addressed under ordinance 85 -2, response
was , NO. need to verify if property
maintenance ordinance could be used.
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
12/27/2011
12/27/2011
Complete
Call: 5min KB
des
Caller checking status of case. I read the
updates. Caller's concern since case has
been opened over month ago. Gave contact
info of Azure B -(fill in Supervisor while PP -28
is out). Caller will call back at later time- to ask
questions about case. /kb
Enter Case Disposition
AzureBotts
1/6/2012
1/6/2012
Complete
Verify Conditions & Close Case
petrullipatricia
1/6/2012
1/6/2012
Complete
Initial Inspection
petrullipatricia
1/6/2012
1/6/2012
No Violation
after researching the LDC and property
(s) Found
maintenance ordinance, it has been
determined that the regular maintenance of
seawall cannot be enforced as a violation.
attached email from Jack McKenna
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Code Case Details
3/11/2014 10.A.
Execution Date 1/9,
Violation Description Status Entered Corrected Amount Comments
Title Reason Result Compliance Fine /Day Condition
0
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C ergc+v.net Report Title: Code Case Details 3/11/2014 10.4.
Date: 1/9/2014 9:22:55 AM Case Number: CESD20110001919
I Case Number: ICESD20110001919 I
Case Type: Site Development
Priority: Health and Safety
Inspector: MicheleMcgonagle
Jurisdiction: Collier County Code Enforcement
I Status: Closed
I Date & Time Entered: 12/14/2011 2:34:13 PM I
Entered By:lKimberlyBrandes
I Case Disposition:lAbated
Origin: Citation
Detail Description: SEAWALL CAVING IN AND IS DANGEROUS.
Location Comments: 154 MOONBAY ST
Address 54 Moon Bay ST Naples, FL
Property 68342000001
Property Owner SELMAN, COLE F & DEBORAH
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Code Case Details
3/11/2014 10.A.
Execution Date 1/9, ", , , ..—
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Enter Initial Case Information
KimberlyBran
2/14/2011
2/14/2011
Complete
des
Initial Inspection
MicheleMcgon
2/14/2011
2/17/2011
Violation(s)
I made a site visit on 2/16/2011 and no one
agle
Found
was home so I could not observe the seawall
from the property. I drove over to Isle of St
Thomas Road and took pictures of the
seawall from the opposite side of the canal. I
observed that the seawall is in bad condition
and falling into the canal. I am researching
property ownership so I can speak to the
home owner.
Attach Picture(s)
MicheleMcgon
2/17/2011
2/17/2011
Complete
agle
Record Violations
MicheleMcgon
2122/2011
2/25/2011
Complete
agle
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
2/23/2011
2/23/2011
Complete
Call: 5min Kb
des
Caller checking status of case. Read updates
on case. Caller was going to speak with
investigator but was unavailable so caller will
call back in few days for more updates at that
time. /kb
..ierate Notice of Violation
MicheleMcgon
3/3/2011
3/8/2011
Complete
researching appropriate code
agle
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
3/18/2011
3/18/2011
Complete
CALL:5MIN KB
des
CALLER CHECKING STATUS OF CASE.
READ THE UPDATES. CALLER WILL CALL
BACK IN FEW DAYS FOR UPDATES OF
SITE VISIT 3/15/11.KB
Re- Inspection
MicheleMcgon
4/5/2011
4/8/2011
Non-
no contact from the property owner. I will
agle
Compliant
continue to monitor
CE Case Research
MicheleMcgon
4/12/2011
4/15/2011
Complete
Researching appropriate ordinance to site.
agle
CE Phone Call
KimberlyBran
4/20/2011
4/20/2011
Complete
call: 5min kb
des
Original owners no longer live there- New
people moved in - -were renting with lease
option to buy. I told caller I would add notes in
the case. Caller will call back for more
updates. /kb
Re- Inspection
MicheleMcgon
5/17/2011
5/20/2011
Non-
wrong owner information. Re sending nov
agle
Compliant
Generate Notice of Violation
MicheleMcgon
5/26/2011
5/26/2011
Complete
agle
Business Management & Budget Office Packet Page -286- 2
Code Case Details
Execution Date 1/9, 3/11/2014 10 .
Desc
Assigned
Required
Completed
Outcome
Comments
Personal Service Attempt
MicheleMcgon
5/27/2011
5/27/2011
Complete
I posted the property and courthouse on
agle
5/27/2011 and prepared an Affidavit of
Posting
After posting the property, the owner of the
property arrived. She escorted me to the rear
yard and showed me that the sea wall is in the
process of being repaired. She also stated
that John Iglehart of South Disrict DEP said
no permit was needed for the removal of
debris and repair of the seawall. I took
pictures and entered them into the case
CE Mailing
rajahindira
5/31/2011
5/31/2011
Complete
Mailed NOV regular and certified to SELMAN
on 5/31/11 - it
Re- Inspection
MicheleMcgon
5/31/2011
6/15/2011
Compliant
I made a site visit on 6/14/2011 and observed
agle
that the seawall has been repaired and all
debris has been removed from the waterway.
The violation has been abated.
CE Staff Review
rajahindira
5/31/2011
5/31/2011
Complete
Scanned and attached AOM to case - it
CE Staff Review
AzureBotts
5/31/2011
5/31/2011
Complete
On 5/27/11 posted NOV at courthouse.
completed affidavit of posting. attached photo
CE Staff Review
rajahindira
5/31/2011
5/31/2011
Complete
Scanned and attached AOP to case - it
CE Staff Review
rajahindira
5/31/2011
5/31/2011
Complete
Scanned and attached AOP to case - it
CE Staff Review
rajahindira
6/3/2011
6/3/2011
Complete
Scanned and attached GCNOV to case - it
CE Staff Review
rajahindira
6/3/2011
6/3/2011
Complete
Scanned and attached returned mail
(GCNOV) to case - it
Update Picture(s)
MicheleMcgon
6/15/2011
6/15/2011
Complete
agle
Enter Case Disposition
MicheleMcgon
6/15/2011
6/15/2011
Complete
agle
Verify Conditions & Close Case
petrullipatricia
6/15/2011
6/15/2011
Complete
Violation Description
Status
Entered
Corrected
Amount
Comments
Legacy Building Permit FBC
Corrected
2/17/2011
6/14/2011
$0
seawall is in bad condition and falling into the
canal
Title Reason Result Compliance Fine /Day Condition
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