BCC Minutes 09/12/1989 B Naples, Florida, September 12, 1989
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Com~issloners in
and for the County of Collier, and also acttng as the Board of Zoning
Appeals and as the governing board(a) of such apectal districts as
have been created according to law and having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 1:30 P.M. In BUD~ETWOK~SHOP SESSION in
Building 'F" of the Government Complex, East Nap/es, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
VICE-CHAIRMAN:
Burr L. Saundera
Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Richard S. Shanahan
Michael J. Volpe
Anne ~oodnight
ALSO PRESENT: Nell Dorrtll, County Manager; Tom Olllff,
Assistant to the County Manager, Annaltese Kraft and Maureen Ken~on,
Deputy Clerks; Lot! Zalka, Budget Director; Leo Ochs, Administrative
Services Administrator, Kevin O'Donnell, Public Services
Administrator; and Sheriff Don Hunter.
A~NDA
County Manager
Sheriff
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County Manager Dorrill stated that the handout submitted to the
Board of County Commissioners contains information that the County
would like to provide to the newspaper in chart form, hopefully, to be
published. He explained that the Information, based on tentative
budgets submitted, and as part of the preliminary tax notices ~iled
out, demonstrates who spends what portion of the total tax dollar. He
Indicated that the other handout on the first page contains a list of
additional budget cuts made at the prior budget workshop, reducing the
County Manager's Increase to 14.9~, In accordance with direction from
the Board of County Commissioners last Wednesday. He pointed out
that those cuts are identified on a proportionate basis within each
dlvtelon under the County Manager. He noted that Commissioner
Shanahan, at the same meeting, requested a discussion concerning eli-
mination of the Initial Narco Beach Renourlehment Taxing District used
for beach access and beach maintenance, and the 1/lOth of a mill
pr~grsmmed tn the budget would be an additional decrease in net fund
to reduce an additional $183,200 dollars. He pointed out that on the
~econd page, 4 columns are shown; original tentative budgets, amended
budgets, revised budget oZ County Manager, and the revised budget the
Sheriff proposes. He stated that other handouts are similar to the
first one, and reflect Information that Commissioner Saunders requested
In terms of an evaluation of taxable value, the portion paid by new
construction, and the portion paid by reassessments tn existing struc-
tures. He explained that the final 2 pages are general Information,
including the taxing area or Independent districts that ars paid Into
to get the type of increase Involved, and the final page ts a summary
page.
Commissioner Volpe questioned if the reduction included fewer
people being hired In the County Manager's Department? County Manager
Dorrtll replied there were no cuts associated with the $412,O00
figure. In response to Commissioner Volpe, Mr. Dorrill indicated that
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78 new positions show as expanded, whtch is anything done since last
October, and the net number of 55 new positions results from the
transfer of the Youth Guidance Department to the Court System out of
the County Manager's budget, eliminating 3 or 4 positions, and elimi-
nation of the County Survey Department containing 5 or 6 positions.
Commissioner Shanahan commented that the real numbers tn relationship
to previous budgeted numbers are important because it appears that 78
new people are being added. Commissioner Volpe and Commissioner
Haase concurred. County Manager Dorrtll explained that the actual
number of positions for October 1, 1989, is 55, taking into account
the number who were added during the year through reorganizations,
i.e. the new Development Services Department, and the actual number
of new positions under the County Manager Is 55, with 10 positions
being eliminated. Commissioner Volpe questioned the 15 new positions
In Mr. Lorenz's Department, Pollution Control, being intact? County
Manager Dorrtll responded "Yes, sir".
Commissioner Volpe questioned clarification of the Pay for
Performance Plan and the proposed 5~ Increase for satisfactory
employees, 7-1/2~ for the next level and 10~ for outstanding or
e~cellent and If tt repve.~ents an adjustment? He commented that at
present it is 2-1/2, § and 7-1/2~. County Manager Dorrill explained
that the reason for the change ts that last year the County budgeted
to adopt the new County Position Classification and Pay Plan. He
pointed out that the aggregate amount of money has remained the same
tn both years, and last year some of the money was split to adopt the
new pay plan and bring certain employees up to their new entry
level. He noted that the money left over was used for the 2-1/2, 5
and 7-1/2 percent pay adjustments. He stated that this year the same
lump of money was budgeted, but all of that money will be used for pay
for performance because few, if any, people have to be brought up to
entry level. In response to Commissioner Volpe, Mr. Dorrlll explained
that with Implementation of this new program, approximately 60~ of the
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employees will receive ?-1/2%, some will receive 5~, some 10~ and some
nothing. He prated that people less than satisfactory, or not
factory are put on probation, re-evaluated or let go.
Commissioner Volpe questioned the percentages of increase for the
employe~e in relation to the cost of living? County Manager Dorrlll
responded his rationale Is that people doing merely satisfactory work,
or what ts expected of them, should receive what is consistent with
the cost of living, generally 5%, but an incentive should be offered
to people who are doing better than that with the additional 2-1/2% or
10%, twice the cost of living; If they are doing an outstanding Job.
In response to Commissioner Hasse, he replied that 30% of our total
work force ts receiving a 10% Increase, and that Increase remains con-
ststent throughout each division.
Co,missioner Shanahan questioned what the overall average is? Mr.
Dorrtll indicated 30~ get 10~, 60~ or less get very good and the
remaining 10% are sc~ewhere between merely satisfactory or less than
satisfactory. In response to Commissioner Shanahan, Mr. Dorrtll
stated he could determine it on a percentage of payroll, assuming the
average county employee ,,as doing very good work and received 5% last
year and this year will get 7-1/2%. Commissioner Volpe questioned the
cost of living percentage for last year? Administrative Services
Administrator 0chs replied that last year It was 4.4%, this year
about 5%.
Nr. Dorrtll stated that the specific cuts he proposes to make to
reach no more than 1§~ of last year's adopted rate, which is the same
proposal Marco Island taxpayers and civic groups have suggested, ts
shown tn each division and department, totalling cuts of $412,500. In
response to Commissioner Yelps, Mr. 9orrtll replied that he could do
whatever the Board of County Commissioners wants. He noted that the
Board of County Commissioners wanted a zero millage budget, no one
spending more than 15~ over last year, and that is what he has done.
He Indicated that one other position that has been eliminated is in
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conjunction with the grounds maintenance proposal for the Philharmonic
Arts Hall.
In response to Commissioner Volpe, Public Services Administrator
O~Donnell stated that he has four options relative to the parking lot
attend~mts at Clam Pass.
In response to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. DorrJ!l replied that the
total cutback figure is $4120000 over cuts previou:~ly made and
$180,000 Identified by Commissioner Shanahan. He lndtcated that Staff
needs general consensus from the Bosrd of County Commissioners to pre-
sent the cuts at the hearing tomorrow.
Commissioner Volpe questioned Mr. O'Donnell's position? He stated
that the options include phasing out of 3 part-time parking lot atten-
dant positions October 1, 1989. He explained that there are 2 full-
time and 4 part time parking lot attendants, totalling 8 part-time and
2 full time positions at the 3 lots the County charges for parking.
Mr. O'Donnell reviewed the 4 options: 1) - maintain status quo and
continue subsidy o~ $19,000. 2) - raise the rate from $1.00 per day to
$2.00 put day at the 3 associated lots, anticipating a net revenue
~.ncT~ease of $50,000 to $53,000. 3) - eliminate parking lot attendants
at Clam Pass and Vanderbtlt, and metering the lots at Lely Barefoot
Beach Park and Lely Barefoot Beach Preserve. He expJa.[ned that
there is a 100 space lot at Lely Barefoot Beach, while the preaerve
area is the access point where the Transportation Department has
constructed a new road. He pointed out that metering would involve
400 plus meters at those sites, at an initial cost of $88,000, with
revenues the first year ranging from $95,000, and in the second year
to a range of $80,000 to $240,000 of revenue, after the capital expen-
ses have bee~ said. He Indicated that mirroring the program used
by the City of Naples, 80~ metered parking spaces and ~0~ unmetered
allowing Collier County residents to park there with & permit, and
using the same revenue pro~ecttn~s on a percentage basis, the revenue
the City estimates to derive from their 500 or 600 meters is $280,000.
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He indicated that the County, using the same percentages, could wind
up with revenues of $240,000. He stated that option 4 with 80~ of the
allocated spaces metered and 20~ unmetered al/owing residents to park
there wo~:ld decrease the cost of meters by 20~. He indicated that the
annual maintenance cost of the meters would be approximately $8,800
per year for wear and tear, vandalism, etc.
Mr. O'Donnell explained that Tigertatl would continue to be
staffed by 4 part-t/me parking lot attendants, and with an increase to
$2.00 per day, revenues would increase in the neighborhood of $50,000.
He stated that Ttgertall Beach carries the parking lot at Clam Pass
and Vanderbilt; Vanderbilt breaks even and Clam Pass operates at a
loss. He Indicated that Tigertatl generates approximately $75,000 per
year in excess of its expenses. He stated that the disadvantage of
the meters is the capital expense associated, but when the meters are
bought and paid for, at a cost of $88,000, possibly within the first
year of operation, $95,000 would be generated tn revenue. He noted
that 2 full-time parking attendants would be maintained and those
~ndtviduals would empty and inventory meters and 3 part-time parking
at?,~ndants would not be n,eded, ending up with 2 full-time and 1 part-
ttmo attendant. He sumnarlzed that a meter approach of Option 1 -
accepting 100~ meterlzation oF 2 - a 80/20~ combination could
nate 3 part time positions and increase revenues. He explained that
when the City of Naples talked to Collier County about 3 years ago to
go ix~ a meter parking program, initially they asked $80,000 from
Collier County, with the first half up front and the second half after
an audit was done, and he noted that the County has yet to make an
expenditure to the City of Naples for the second installment and last
year received a check from the City to help defray the Countycs expen-
ses. He noted that this year they anticipate the County.s expenses to
be $~5,000, half of which the County would pay November 1, ~988, pur-
suant to the County's agreement ~nd based on revenue projections in
the past by the City of Naples, he indicated that he did not feel the
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County would pay that money, and following the percentages, meters is
the way to go from a revenue producing perspective. In response to
Commissioner Hasse, Mr. O'Donnell stated that the City has issued a
large number of stickers which Collier County could honor, because the
City ~d County definitions dovetail. Commissioner Shanahan commented
that overwhelming evidence suggests going with Option 3 or 4. He
stated that the Investment of $88,000 to ultimately bring tn $100,000
to $200,000 profit without any loss in service ts of overwhelming
potential.
Mr. O'Donnell Indicated that Ttgertatl Beach has used state
funding to develop that park system and the permit would have to be a
state permit. He noted that permits could not be Issued solely to
Collier County residents, but after checking with the County attorney,
Collier County could levy an annual charge for a permit which would
be Issued at the Parks & Recreation Administrative Office in Golden
Gate Community Park, and that would discourage out of county residents
from making that trip. He Doted that at Cl,m Pass and Vanderb]lt that
!e~al restriction ]s not In effect. Commissioner Shanahan questioned
if R0/20% at VanderbIlt/C'am Pass obligates the County to do the same
at Tigertall? He emphasiz~d that their parking fees should not be
increased from $1.00 to $2.00 because they have been carrying the bur-
den of all of the facilities at this time. Mr. O'Donnell Indicated
that studies of car registrations at Tigertall Beach, particularly in
season, it ts not uncommon to see that ?04 of the vehicles have non
Collier County license plates. He pointed out that Ttgerta~l makes
approximately $75,000 and carries the other 2 lots and the $1.00
charge could be left as it is, and it does not allow itself to
meterlng. He explained that Clam Pass and VanderbIlt In the 80/20
split would charge for meters at the same rate as the C~ty of Naples,
25 cents per hour. In responsu to Commissioner Shanahan, Mr.
O'Donnell indicated that $1.00 at Tigertail is for all day or a por-
t,on of It, and the average individual stays about 4 hours at the
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beach. Commissioner Shanahan expressed concern with the people uti-
lizing Tigertail being penalized because they do not have meters that
allow paying .25 cents per hour and they pay the $1.00.
Commissioner Volpe questioned why Collier County pays the City of
Naples? Mr. O'Donnell responded that the money ts for the opportunity
for non-city residents to obtain a city beach parking permit and have
the -ame rights and privileges as the City of Naples residents and
park at unmetered spots, or metered spots If the unmetered spots are
filled and not pay.
County Manager Dorrtll noted that Collier County funds its beach
program out of the general fund and all County residents pay into the
general fund. In response to Commissioner Shanahan, Mr. O'Donnell
indicated he favors Option 3 of 100 percent meterization. He noted
that his concern with the 80/20 upllt ts the stickers that are out
throughout the County creating loss of revenue. County Manager
Dorrill indicated that a particular proposal the Board of County
Commissioners favors, it can be referred to the Parks & Recreation
Advisory Committee.
Commissioner Volpe commented that he was looking to eliminate
expenses, not view It as reven~e producing. He emphasized that
beaches are being funded by ad valorem taxes and he is not in favor of
zevenue funding by charging residents to park at their beaches.
A discussion followed about meter collecting and park rangers.
Mr. O'Donnell indicated that eliminating parking attendants and having
the park rangers empty meters will be a difficult task. Mr. O'Donnell
stated that there are no meters at Clam Pass or Vanderhllt.
Commissioner Shanahan stated that turning those facilities into no
pay parking und leaving Tigertatl on Marco Island paying $1.00 is not
viable. Ne Indicated that the metered approach will generate revenue
and eliminate expense.
A lengthy discussion followed about meters and the revenues they
would generate.
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A discussion followed about the available options.
Commissioner Shanahan and Commissioner Hasse agreed that the pro-
posals be given to the' Parks & Recreation Advisory Board.
County Manager Dorrill noted that there appears to be no immediate
cuts relative to those part-time employees.
Commissioner Volpe commented that there is mor~ to be looked at
rather than Just eliminating 3 part-time positions. Commissioner
Shanahan concurred.
It w~s tim cons~ of the Board of County Co~iestoner~ that
this ~atter go to the Park~ and Recreation Advisory Co,a/tree and the
C=~e/ttee co~e back to the Board of County Co~miesionere with a recom-
~endation.
County Manager Dorrtl! stated that if there are no seore quemtions
concerning the $412,500 in other cuts, Staff uwu~ee the~ are to be
proposed a~ part of the public hearing.
Co~0/asion~r Volpa c~uesttoned the total county payroll, oxcllL~iv~
of the Sheriff? Mr. Ochs ~d~cated that the cu~rrent payroll for Board
cf C~ty Co~a/ealoners' e~ployees, ~nclud~ng the court ~F~test and
~ ~he County Attorney J~ approximately $~8,000,000.
In respaD~e to Co~e/e&ioner Shana'nan, Mr. Dorrlll responded that
the t~tat~v~ ~dg~t wa~ originallF ~n the blue book a~d the a~end~d
budget column ia ~h~ough today, wh~le the County Manager colu~n~hc~
the total tax dollars, the County tax H~llage rate, the percentage
~-~e~ ~n ta~cem collected over last year, and ~f you take the
$4~2,500 ~n further cuts, the m~llage would decreue for the first
t~e in l0 or 15 years. Conmteeioner Shanahan noted that the ~/llago
w~nt fro~ 461.S? to 45T.18. Coaxiestoner Shanahan wu~arized that
the County vs~uld hav~ an a~ended budget of $55,893,600 v~. 858,900,00,
thus creating a mavings of $3,100,000. In response to Co~lmstoner
Volpa, Itt. Dorr~ll replied that 2~ of the total County b~g~t of
$267,000,000, $5?,000,000 or 20~ cones from ad valorem property
taxe~.
1989
C~.t~ ~nag~r Doff/l! re~pon~ed that the nuabers on ~ ~ ~
wL~ ~ ~m or pr~r~ t~. A d/s~ston foll~d a~t pro~r~
~, ~lla~ ~ t~ t~ rate.
C~ty ~ ~rr/ll etated t~t ~ u~s t~ ~d of ~
~ssi~r8 wl.~s to ~e the Mther ~ts In the C~W ~r'm
i~n~ ~et, ~d Staff ~ill ~v~ rhea prepared to ~ disused at the
stu~ ot t~ ~bltc hearln~ to~rr~.
Shertfff H~ter stated that he has tried to Ttnd ~ays to cu~ his
budget, and prefaced his remarks that his budget, as originally sub-
mt~ted, contained two assuapttons; one that he ~ould be able to dual
certify Jail deputies to help him ~tth patrol services and ~ould be
Granted the oppor~t~y through his investigator supervisors to use
InvestiGators on patrol services; he ~ould be doinG patrol service
himself, and he would ha'~e 100 additional volunteers ~orktn~ tn the
agency, some bets9 dedicated to patrol services. He noted that he
still ~oes not know tf he ~tll be permitted to acquire the necessary
~andtdate spaces for ne~ recruits in the academy for law enforcement
a~.i Jail certification, ~.t he ha~ attempted to predict ~hen he ~ould
be able to plo.ce the candidates In those recruit seats. He stated
that the 15~ ca~ ts not intended to be hln~ed upon a particular posi-
tion, but essentially an arbitrary cap. He explained that he came tn
at f8 positions, down from 110 posttlons proposed by the experts tn
the Collier Cowry Sheriff's Office, to do the Job at the current ser-
vice level and the 1.5 million dollar reduction ~ould yield one half
o[ the 58 positions, about 29 ~osttlons. He pointed out that he c~-
not say that the positions ~ould be taken from administrative, such as
clerical and records because as you put more people on the street,
more paperwork ts processed ~ith increased arrests, etc. He indi-
cated that If the people ~ant to cut back to 29 people, those posi-
tions would Include road patrol, canine units, Investigators, record
clerks, secretary clerk typists and computer propra~ers.
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Sheriff Hunter indicated through phase-ins and the elimination of
two positions, there are $337,583 in cuts or about 1.1% of what was
originally proposed. He stated that he has eliminated a crime scene
technician, and a professiona3 responsibility lieutenant. He indi-
cated that Florida Highway Patrol budget~ its personnel at ?0~ availa-
b~lity and they are grossly under-manned, the International Association
of C,~ief of Police recommends 80'& availability of patrol resources to
provide adequate patrol. He indicated that the budget today would
provide patrol service availability of 39% in District l, 42% in
District 2, Golden Gate, 14% in District 3, Naples and East Naples,
52~ in Marco Island and 55% in Everglades and 23% in Immokalee. He
stated that he did not believe the County wants to go to that.
Sheriff Hunter stated thai instead of the original proposed budget
of $31,454,400, the revised figure would be $31,116,817. In response
to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. Hunter indicated that the increase from
last year would be 2~.3%. Sheriff Hunter explained that 9.8% of the
increase is salary adjustments, annualized through this budget year
that were not permitted the last fiscal year. He indicated that
for the people ellgible, and the remainder receive zero.
In r~sponse to Commissioner Volpe, Sheriff Hunter indicated there
is no change in patrol deputies, there will be 23 total certified. In
response to Commissioner Volpe, Sheriff Hunter indicated there will
be ~46 patrol positions. He stated that there are 127 dedicated to
the districts, a flexible unit of 10 and 3 canine un,ts and 14~ is
current with the 23 added to total 169.
Commissioner Hasse questioned reduction in Jail personnel?
Sheriff Hunter replied that they are currently under-budgeted now. He
currently pruvides for up to 560 inmates while custodians and
deputies have been budgeted to maintain only 450 people.
In response to Commissioner Hasse, Sheriff Hunter reported that
there are 18 deputies budgeted for Immokalee. He indicated that
the prisoners run from 55 to 59 in number. He indicated that the
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facility has been opened up as a result of remodeling the kitchen, the
Departm.nt of c.,.~',-nti,~n~ w,,uld not ~.Ilow holding any additional pri-
soners until the kitchen was complete,]. He stated that there are 192
in corrections and Jail deputies who are divided between the Naples
facility and the Immokalee facility.
A discussion followed about the 15% cap and the number of road
deputies. Sheriff Hunter stated that he has to go back to Marco and
determine with the people of Marco, what they wish to have.
Commissioner Volpe questioned how the number of deputies is
translated b~sed upon people to be served? Mr. Hunter replied that
50~ availability and caseload analysis, analyzing number of secre-
taries per investigator, looking at the workload, and determining if
there are any snags ~n the system. Sheriff Hunter ind~cated that for
the last 10 years, people and resources have been budgeted at 50~
availability and analyzed investigator workloads and have had no
request for changes. He stated that people ask for more visibility
from road patrol in their neighborhoods, and more expeditious handling
of investigations, and he suggests they go to the Board of County
Co.anisaloners as well to have it budgeted.
In r~.spon~e to Com=~sstoner Volpe, Sheriff Hunter stated that he
is only referring to road patrol positions when he says 50~ allocation
of resources, i.e. 50~ of a time of a road patrol deputy involved in a
shift is responding to calls for service, domestic complaints, and
crimes in progress; the other §0~ is to be available for crime preven-
tion, suppression patrol and public relations. Sheriff Hunter stated
that the total calls for service responded to in a prior year accumu-
lated for 5 years, with 5 years data and pro~ected by regression into
the next calundar year is used to predict how many people are needed
in each d/strict.
In response to Commissioner Hasse, Sheriff Hunter stated that he
could not predict when the academies would occur and when he would be
permitted to phase in positions to get them Into the academy. He
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Indicated that he phased in positions, and eliminated 2. Commissioner
Volpe noted that adhering to the 15% cap would result tn half of the
requested positions. A discussion followed about cutting the posi-
tions from the original budget.
In response to Commissioner Volpe, Sheriff Hunter Indicated that
the Sheriff has an automated computer dispatch system to determine how
malty calls for service there are in each district, how many minutes
each of the calls constitute and he converts that Into man hours each
year. He stated that he has attempted to calculate investigator hours
and the chart represents 3 tours of duty through each neighborhood.
He indicated that he attempted, In the workshops, to ask people how
many times they wanted to see a deputy In their neighborhood.
Commissioner Volpe questioned the increase tn number of incidents
pro~ected for next year? Sheriff Hunter stated 30,831 in District 1
for a total of 175,000 total calls for service. A discussion followed
about new positions created by amount of incidents.
Commissioner Volpe questioned Collier County's per capita cost of
law enforcement and how it compares to other counties tn the State?
Sb~£f Hunter indicated that it ts high in some, lower in others.
He tndica,ted that he ccmpleted a 1985 study for the State of Florida,
analyzing Sheriff's offices and municipalities and used other
variables, i.e. the cost of living, proportion of Individuals living
in the county which affects the call for police services, elderly
populations, and said that study is available.
· '' Deputy Clerk F~nyon replaced Deputy Clerk F, raft at this ti--- *'*
Commissioner Volpe stated that he ts looking at a budget and how
costs are developed and it appears that the cost per capita is $215.00
and he wondered how this compared to other counties. He stated that
there is evidently a standardized way of doing things in terms of law
enforcement.
Sheriff Hunte~ stated that there is no sta,ldardized ways of doing
things in law enforcement and it does not need to be standardized
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because law enforcement needs to fit the service to the population
being served and the consumer needs to determine that, adding that he
feels that the Sheriff's Department has done a very good Job in
responding to the consumer.
Comm~ssioner Volpe stated that the consumer is stating that it ts
costing too much at this time.
Sheriff Hunter stated that he is going to go to each district and
try and determine what the taxpayers want of him as a /aw enforcement
officer.
Commissioner Shanahan stated that the Commission asked the Sheriff
to look for a $1.5 million cut, noting that he looked for cuts tn
expanded positions only. He stated that he came up with some phase-
ins and a couple of positions that went from 58 to 56, adding that
what he has heard from his constituents is that is a totally Inade-
quate number of cuts. He stated that there is a wide variety of
things from paid plan adjustment, holiday parity, capita/ outlay, etc,
and questioned if there is any way to delay some of these expenses?
Re stated that his constttutents have told him that the Sheriff should
~,~ ~]v~n $3 million for pay increases or $3 million for additional
personnel, but not both ~e stated that this would be a severe cut
and would be worth $3.5 million. He stated that he would suggest that
Sheriff Hunter take another look at his budget..
Sheriff Hunter stated that he will cut his budget $1.5 mil/ton
when he hears that the taxpayers wants a lower level of service than
they currently enjoy. He stated that he would cut 10%, 20%, 50~ or
withdraw entirely from their district if that is what they want. He
indicated that If the people of Marco Island do not want any of the
new positions budgeted for *heir area, he is prepared to remove them
from the budget this date if that is what they want. He indicated
that this discussion ts 9n the allocation of limited resources and the
prloritizatlon of the services that the constituencies demand, adding
that he ts prepared to do what the taxpayers demand but they have to
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do It in an informed way and understand the consequences. He stated
that he is prepared to withdraw all resources from any district if the
people of that district agree to it.
Commissioner Hasse stated that the County Manager and his depart-
ments were asked to see what they could do in cutting their budgets
and they have made some cuts, noting that it is now up to the Sheriff
to make some cuts in his budget that are substantial. He stated that
each Commissioner has to listen to their constitutents. He noted that
out of the $1.5 million, Sheriff Hunter has only cut $337,000 from the
budget which is not enough.
Sheriff Hunter stated that the people of Marco Island have asked
him to enforce the narcotics laws in their lounges, hotels, and on the
streets, noting that he has heard the same thing from Immokalee, East
Naples and North Naples, but this cannot be done if he does not have
enough people. He indicated that this budget proposal in its dimi-
nished form will grant him the ability in a flexible way to do it. He
stated that if these positions are reduced to 29 positions, he will
aot be able to do that and this is all he wants the taxpayers to know.
~e noted that he wi/] be primarily responding to calls for service
because his p~'imary mt~sion is law enforcement, not crime prevention
or proactive law enforcement.
Commissioner Hasse questioned if the Sheriff could address the
specific cuts that the Board recommended for his consideration and
what the public will receive if the Commission insists on that cap
versus what the absolute minimum should be, to which Sheriff Hunter
replied affirmatively, adding that if he has a mandate from the BCC
saying that they are prepared to withdraw the positions budgeted for
their areas, he is prepared to remove the areas.
Commissioner Shanahan stated that the peop?.e are going to want to
know why the Sheriff camnot cut his budget $1.5 mill~on. He stated
that some people feel that there are two many deputies responding to a
DUI call or a minor arrest. He stated that there are a lot of
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questions as t~ whether all the personnel Is really required for a $31
mil/ton expenditure. He indicated that this will have to be
addressed.
Commissioner Shanahan questioned if it would hurt the department
if the holiday party was delayed for one year, to which Sheriff
Hunter stated that it would hurt especially when it is compared to the
County's employees. He stated that there would also be a higher
attrition rate than he currently experiences.
In answer to Commissioner Volpe, Sheriff Hunter stated that the
IlO positions were requested by the Supervisors doing the Job on the
street, but the number of positions that he budgeted does not reflect
the total demand, but this Is his decision. He ind~cated that he was
wi/ling to take the responsibility and provide the additional patrol
resources to cover the added position requirements. He noted that the
llO positions were cut to 58 positions, noting he cannot cut
budget any further.
Commissioner Hasse stated that it was decided that the budget
would be held at a 1§~ increase which means that the Sheriff's budget
has to be cut. He noted f..;at only $337,000 was cut from his budget
and he would suggest that the Sheriff go back and look at hie budget
again without seriously affecting /aw enforcement.
3heriff Hunter stated that he has attempted to cut where he could
and any cuts from this point on will adversely affect service. He
assured the Commission he would look at the budget again and attempt
to help if there is any other way possible.
There being no other further business, the meeting was adjourned
by Order of the Chair - Time: 3:2§ P.M.
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