TDC Minutes 03/29/2004 SMarch 29, 2004
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, March 29, 2004
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Tourist Development
Council in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein,
met on this date at 8:30 AM in SPECIAL SESSION in Building "F of the
Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
CHAIRMAN: Commissioner Donna Fiala
David Loving
Kevin Durkin
Robert Dictor
Joe Dinunzio
Rhona Saunders
Glenn Tucker
John Sorey III (Excused)
Susan Becker (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT:
Jack Wert, Director of Tourism
Ron Hovell, Public Utilities Engineering
Heidi Ashton, Assistant County Attorney
Maria Bernal, Executive Assistant/Tourism
Gail Hambright, Administrative Assistant
SPECIAL
MEETING AGENDA & NOTICE
COLLIER COUNTY TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
Monday, March 29, 2004, 8:30 A.M. - Noon
Collier County Government Center, Administration Bldg. F, 3rd Floor
3301 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, FL 34112
CALL TO ORDER
II ROLL CALL
II CHANGES AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA
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APPROVAL OF TDC MINUTES- Regular Meeting Feb. 23, 2004
STAFF REPORTS
VI CATEGORY "A" PROJECTS
Grant Applications for FY 05
A. City of Naples
1. Beach Maintenance - Algae/Sea~veed Removal and Equipment
Purchase
2. S. Gordon Dr. T-Groin Monitoring
3. Gordon Pass Turtle Monitoring
4. Doctor's Pass Monitoring
5. Beach Renourishment
6. Beach Maintenance - Algae/Seaweed Removal Reimbursement
B. City of Marco Island
1. Hideaway Beach & T-Groin Monitoring
2. Hideaway Beach Renourishment
3. Marco Island Monitoring
C. Collier County Environmental Services Dept.
1. Sea Turtle Monitoring & Beach Studies
D. Collier County Parks & Recreation Department
1. Beach Cleaning Operations 2005
2. Vanderbilt & Clam Pass Park Beach Renourishment
3. Repairs to Beach Cleaning Equipment
4. Tipping Fees
5. Beach Renourishment/Beach Dune Walkover and Paver Pathway
6. Beach Renourishment/Re-pave Tigertail Parking Lot
7. Beach Renourishment/South Marco Parking Lot
8. Beach Renourishment/Pedestrian Beach Access
E. Pelican Bay Services Division
1. Clam Pass Monitoring
2. Pelican Bay Beach Renourishment
F. Collier County Tourism Department
1. Project Management and Misc. Fees 2005
Prior Year Category "A" Projects A. City of Naples Grants
B. Lake Trafford Restoration
C. Hideaway Beach Access Improvements
TDC March 29, 2004 Agenda
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3. Project Updates
A. Ten Year Plan
B. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update
i. Schedule: discussion of progress and potential barriers to meeting
a November 2004 construction start date
C. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update
i. Public Access
ii. Cost Sharing
iii. Interlocal Agreement with the City of Marco Island
iv. Engineering Services Proposals
v. Schedule: discussion of progress and potential barriers to meeting
a November 2004 construction start date
4. Minutes of CAC Sub-Committee 2/25/04 - Informational only
VII OLD BUS1NESS
VIII NEW BUSINESS
1. TDC Appointment
2. Election of TDC Vice-Chairman
3. KSR Invoice Approval - Prior Year
4. New Full-Time Position in FY-05 Budget
ANNOUNCEMENTS
X AUDIENCE INPUT & DISCUSSION
XI COUNCIL DISCUSSION
XII NEXT MEETING DATE/LOCATION- April 19, BCC Chambers
XIII ADJOURNMENT
** All interested parties are invited to attend, and to register to speak and to submit their objections, if any,
in writing, to the board prior to the meeting if applicable.
** For more information, please contact Jack Wert at (239) 403-2402.
** If you are a person with a disability who needs any accommodation in order to participate in this
proceeding, you are entitled, at no cost to you, to the provision of certain assistance. Please contact the
Collier County Facilities Management Department located at 3301 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, FL 34112,
(239) 774-8380.
** Public comments will be limited to 5 minutes unless the Chairman grants permission for additional time.
** Collier County Ordinance No. 99-22 requires that all lobbyists shall, before engaging in any lobbying
activities (including, but not limited to, addressing the Board of County Commissioners) before the Board
of County Commissioners and its advisory boards, register with the Clerk to the Board at the Board
Minutes and Records Department.
March 29, 2004
I. The meeting was called to order by Commissioner Donna Fiala at 8:30 AM.
Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
II. Roll Call: Roll call was taken and a quorum was established.
III. Changes and Approval of Agenda: None
IV. Approval of TDC Minutes: Regular meeting February 23, 2004
Mr. Dinunzio moved to approve the minutes of February 23, 2004. Second by Mr. Loving.
Carried unanimously 7-0.
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Category "A" Projects:
1. Grant Applications for FY 05-Tally Form
Mr. Wert explained the Tally Sheet of recommendations by the previous
Advisory Boards.
a. Funding Policy - copy of funding policy can be referred to
concerning the various applications. He reminded the Council members of the
various aspects of the policy as approved by the Board of County Commissioners.
Some of the projects being approved do not currently meet the interpretation of the
policy and may need to be considered postponed until they are eligible.
A. City of Naples
1. Beach Maintenance-Algae/Seaweed Removal and
Equipment purchase - page 63 - $150,000
Will be current year project, work to begin on April 1, 2004
If recommended would be a Reimbursement to the City of Naples for
the work. Mr. Wert referred to a memo from Heidi Ashton, Assistant
County Attorney, pointed out the equipment needs to be used for
Beach Maintenance exclusively.
Mr. Kroeschell (CAC) had voted against the project because of
decentralizing.
SPEAKERS
Ron Pennington -City of Naples and CAC - discussed the difference between having a
well manicured beach versus the more natural beach. The County has been maintaining the
Cities beaches, but the City has the ultimate responsibility. The City has agreed to maintain
the beach north of the City line at Seagate Drive to Clam Pass. The money is to acquire
another tractor and rake for the City. In the County requests, CAC recommended that
amount be subtracted from the original request.
Mr. Hovell stated the County owns 3 tractors and 2 beach rakes.
Mr. Pennington also mentioned the City has agreed to assist the County if they were to
have any breakdowns.
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Ms. Saunders moved to approve the expenditure of $150,000 for
the City of Naples Beach Maintenance-Algae/Seaweed Removal
and Equipment Purchase. Second by Mr. Tucker. Carried
unanimously.
2. S. Gordon Dr. T-Groin Monitoring - $51,964.00
Is not within ½ mile of a beach park facility, or a public access hotel
or motel and staff is recommending it be denied. CAC did
recommend approval for $41,964.
Mr. Tucker was not sure it wasn't consistent with the policy because
it services the entire beach. He felt it qualifies.
The members were reminded this is just monitoring.
Mr. Pennington mentioned all the passes have the pass management plans. Part of it is
the groins are built on the north side to inhibit the flow of sand into Gordon Pass. Also
semi-annual monitoring required. Recommendation from staff is under existing contracts,
reimbursement will continue. CAC recommended it be funded by Category "A" funds. It
would create a problem if dropped now. They need to comply with the permit requirement.
Mr. Wert mentioned this would be an annual contract. Not an on going Contract.
None in place for next year.
Dr. Jon Staiger - Natural Resources Manager - City of Naples - there is a State law
that requires managed inlets. All the inlets have inlet management plans. He explained
the inlet plan, construction of the groin field and reconstruction of the jetty on the south
side. All were funded by TDC Grants of what the State says they have to do. This is the
final monitoring for this T-Groin installation.
Mr. Dictor moved to approve the $41,964 for the S. Gordon Dr.
T-Groin Monitoring. Second by Mr. Dinunzio. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
3. Gordon Pass Turtle Monitoring - $8,000
Current year project. Same area - not within ½ mile of beach parking
facility or public access point - hotel or motel and staff recommends
denial. CAC recommended 6-1 approval.
No access unless going by boat.
Mr. Pennington stated it is not in compliance with the Policy, but staff recommends the
existing contracts be honored. City had to obtain the permit from the State. He discussed
the sea turtle monitoring on Key Island.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the $8,000 for the Gordon Pass
Turtle Monitoring. Second by Mr. Loving. Carried unanimously
7-0.
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4. Doctors Pass Monitoring- $10,580.
Is within ½ mile of beach park facility and staff recommends
approval.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the Doctors Pass Monitoring for
$10,580. Second by Mr. Loving. Carried Unanimously 7-0.
5. Beach Renourishment $9,914,600.
Is within ½ mile of beach park facility and staff recommends the
full amount. CAC recommended.
Ms. Saunders moved to approve the $9,914,600 for the City of
Naples Beach Renourishment. Carried unanimously 7-0.
6. Beach Renourishment- $29,804
Cities request for reimbursement - for seaweed and algae. Staff
recommended approval and CAC recommended unanimously.
County Attorneys' opinion is on Page 114A in which it appears
appropriate.
Discussion was held on eliminating pages of invoices in the future.
Question of the difference in the cost for the dump truck was asked.
Response was it was a premium rental time period in which they
needed the truck on a week-end.
Pages 118 & 119 - Lightner Contracting is a fixed term contract for
the County. The $50/hr rate is for on-road dump truck and the $95/hr
rate is for off-road truck that goes unto the beach and cannot haul
down the road.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the $29,804 for the Beach
Renourishment. Second by Mr. Loving.
Carried unanimously 7-0
City of Marco Island
1. Hideaway Beach & T-Groin Monitoring
Net Amount $3,157,000 - ($4,457,000 total with $1,300,000
non-TDC)
Does not currently have public street access, not within ½ mile of
beach park facility - has been recommended as a vital tourism area,
subject to abnormal erosion by both the CAC & TDC. Staff
recommends application be deferred pending the resolution of
funding policy issues specifically the public access that needs to be
addressed by the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board, the CAC and
back to the TDC. CAC voted 6/1 approval of the $3,157,000 come
from TDC funding.
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SPEAKERS
John Arceri - City of Marco Island and Coastal Advisory Committee - asked to cover
the entire Hideaway issue. He recapped the eligibility of a beach. This has been declared a
vital tourism area subject to abnormal erosion. Was approved by the TDC, CAC and the
City contingent on the pathway issue. Second requirement is public access from a public
street. Last month residents of Marco voted 79% to approve the proposed pathway. If
pathway is approved, and Hideaway becomes eligible will be designated as a low use beach.
Will share 29% project cost and annual costs which is the $1,300,000. City has a taxing
district Ordinance being reviewed at the April 5th meeting and approved at the April 19th
meeting.
Also did a draft of the Interlocal Agreement. Handed out and showed a map of the proposed
pathway and area being discussed. (Spinnaker Drive etc.) Empty lots are available for the
County to purchase if they wanted to pursue it. It could be a parking area. Showed the area
for renourishment.
He discussed the BCC stating not to delay some of the projects until they rule on the quality
issues of the policy. Schedule is tight and they don't want to lose another year. T-Groins
are doing a great job and have improved the erosion problem with the adjacent beaches.
Discussed Coconut Island - island is in trouble, will disappear eventually.
Coastal Advisory spending plan funds all the critical beach projects and CAC approved
them contingent on seeing the pathway. Meets all the policy requirements. Urged TDC to
pass this item onto the BCC and not stop the process now.
Ms. Saunders would like to see a pathway on the north end. She feels this is preserving
their private beach and should be a method of getting access to the northern end.
Mr. Arceri responded there is no way to get access from a public street for the north end.
Policy says to go from a "public street".
Ms. Saunders asked about turning a private street into a public street.
David Somers - General Manager - Hideaway Beach - gave a history of Hideaway in
which there intended to be a 200 feet access at the southern southeastern most point of the
Beach. An agreement was then made with the BCC and Hideaways developer built the boat
ramps in 1979. Requirement for public access was eliminated from the PUD. This is the
best location they found now to comply with the policy with minimum impact on Hideaway
Beach. Want to move project forward and working on the taxing district in the city. The
Interlocal Agreement has been forwarded to County Manager Mudd and anticipates a
meeting with him soon.
Mr. Loving asked how one access' the beach.
Mr. Sommers responded it needs to be developed with the Interlocal Agreement.
Permitting agencies need to be involved and issues that need to be met.
Mr. Loving wondered how they access the pathway, if driving, where do they park their
cars.
Mr. Somers stated the policy states "public access" point; there are several access points in
Collier County that do not have parking. Trying to comply with the policy as best they can.
March 29, 2004
Mr. Loving mentioned the lots for sale - if that was done, the people could see the pathway,
but not necessarily be able to get to the pathway.
Mr. Somers mentioned Marco will be built out in 2010 and is within walking distance of
several homes in that area. The property to the south is owned by the County, (Tigertail
Park) and has a large parking area south of the entrance and suggested they could build one
north of the entrance.
Mr. Loving wondered what good the pathway is if one cannot use it unless you live there.
Tourists that do not live there do not have access or use of it.
Commissioner Fiala stated many that live on the Island have boating access and cannot get
to a beach. They can ride a bicycle to get to the beach. Those that have rental properties
cannot access the beach easily. When they said they might have to rip out the T-Groins, she
stated that concerns her as what will happen to the beaches further down. It will affect
Tigertail.
Mr. Loving responded that the sand they put there originally created the problems at
Tigertail. More sand will go on that beach and choke off Tigertail. The Beach at Hideaway
has come and gone naturally and changed in the past 100 years. Tigertail was beautiful and
created a mess and will be made worse trying to put a beach at Hideaway that has had a
natural flow to it.
Mr. Arceri stated the consultants have said it will reduce the erosion of Hideaway and the
adjacent beaches and lessen the problems at Tigertail. He is not sure of how much it has all
contributed to it, but going by the County consultants' reports.
Ms. Saunders would like to see some bike stands and restrooms and be able to use the
pathway as a usable path. If no parking, they need something that says the people can to
there. Didn't think they should buy property.
Mr. Tucker wondered why they shouldn't buy the lots. If Collier County is serious about
providing more access, there are 3-5 lots that can be purchased for parking.
Heidi Ashton- Assistant County Attorney was asked if TDC would qualify to purchase
lots.
She answered the Attorney Generals opinion currently that addresses the purchase of land,
under Category "A" is for beach front property. If they wanted to proceed with purchase of
the lot/s, they need to get another opinion from the Attorney General.
Commissioner Fiala stated purchasing the property is very costly - $20M or so. instead
they are discussing buying property outside with provisions of transporting people into the
area. The County Commissioners has set aside $2M a year out of the TDC budget to buy
that beach access. Also trying to set money aside each year out of another pot.
Mr. Arceri stated parking and bathroom requirements would not be required for a partially
funded situation. Many areas do not have bathrooms. Was not in the policy discussions.
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Not sure bathrooms are needed, Tigertail have bathrooms ¼ mile away and not required by
the policy.
Mr. Tucker said this issue is bigger than the TDC Funds allow for. They need to find other
sources of funding.
Mr. Weft reminded the Council members that they are charged to make recommendations
to the County Commission on how to spend Tourism Funds. Keep in mind the project they
are discussing does not meet the policy. They need to structure a motion to take that into
consideration. The spending of the TDC funds is not designed to be spent for the residents,
but the visitors. What they recommend needs to benefit the visitors, if not; it is not in the
spirit of the State Statutes and the County Ordinance. Tourist need to be able to get to the
area. Still have to cross Clam Pass to get there, at high tide that is a problem. Another
problem is the City has requested to build a boardwalk or something else to widen the beach
or fill in the area. That is another project to make the Hideaway project eligible. The
downward beaches will be impacted if something isn't done. Where the funding will come
from is the charge of the TDC. Is it TDC funds or private funding?
Mr. Arceri doesn't see that Clam Pass has to be resolved to make this eligible. He showed
a channel on the map (Clam Pass). He said it is ½ mile eligibility. They could request, fully
meting the full critieria, without any contributions by Hideaway or anybody else to fully
renourish the entire section. If that is an eligibility issue, they can come with another
request to renourish the whole section.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the (B.1) request. Monitoring of
the T-Groins for $100,000. Second by Mr. Dinunzio. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
2. Hideaway Beach Renourishment - $3,157,000
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the Hideaway Beach
Renourishment for $3,157 subject to the completion of the public
access and the taxing district is approved. Second by Mr. Dictor.
Carried 6-1. Mr. Durkin voting no.
3. Marco Island Monitoring - $100,000
This area has public street access, more than 80% of the ½ mile rule
and staff recommends approval. CAC recommended approval
unanimously.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the Marco Island Monitoring for
$100,000. Second by Mr. Dictor. Carried unanimously 7-0.
C. Collier County Environmental Services Dept.
1. Sea Turtle Monitoring & Beach Studies - $157,400
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Meets criteria and staff recommend approval.
CAC recommended 7-0 approval if public street access is provided to
Hideaway Beach.
Mr. Tucker stated it is a permit requirement and not a public
access issue. He moved to approve the monitoring and study
without the public access requirements. Second by Mr. Dictor.
Carried unanimously 7-0.
BREAK- 9:56 AM
RECONVENED - 10:09 AM
Collier County Parks & Recreation Department 1. Beach Cleaning Operations 2005 - $488,200
Page 162- This is not part of the $2M beach park facility allocation in
the policy. Recommended by CAC unanimously. Overlap with City
of Naples, $150,000 for their beach cleaning operations, which
reduces what Parks & Rec weld need.
Murdo Smith from Parks & Rec stated they would purchase a new tractor, a new
rake and maintenance. City of Naples submitted $150,000 for their beach, which
was done after Parks & Rec, had already made their application. This application
would then be reduced by $150,000, so a meeting is set with the City and Parks &
Recreation. They are wiling to work with the City.
Ms. Saunders asked about the clothing and cell phones.
Heidi Ashton stated this is a beach maintenance activity. Her opinion is more
cautionary. If they decreased it by the $4,800 they may have other areas of funding.
Mr. Tucker moved to recommend the grant less $150,000 and
minus the $4,800 for the two items just discussed. Second by
Ms. Saunders. Carried unanimously 7-0.
2. Vanderbilt and Clam Pass Park Beach Renourishment -
$3,164,200. This is an "05 project, is within ½ mile
policy- CAC recommended $3M Engineering Services
not included. Staff recommends to include it for the
full amount.
Mr. Durkin moved to approve the $3,164,200. Second by
Ms. Saunders. Carried unanimously 7-0.
3. Repairs to Beach Cleaning Equipment - $33,400
This is Parks & Recreation for repairs to the two beach cleaning
machines and staff and CAC recommends approval.
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Ms. Saunders moved to approve the Equipment for $33,400.
Second by Mr. Tucker. Carried unanimously 7-0.
4. Tipping Fees - $122,200
For dumpster fees - will need to do Budget Amendment to move
the money for this current year if approved. Wasn't being charged
in the past.
In November solid waste department started to charge them for
tipping fees. There were policy changes that changed what was
being delivered to the land fill, so had decided to start charging
tipping fees in October 2003.
Mr. Tucker stated they have an obligation to recommend it, but to
include a suggestion to have the Commissioners check the franchise
agreement.
Mr. Tucker moved to recommend payment of the tipping fees
$122,200. Second by Ms. Saunders.
Question from Mr. Durkin on recycling seaweed and have Ron
Hovell investigate the possibility.
Motion Carried unanimously - 7-0.
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5. Beach Renourishment/Beach Dune Walkover & Paver
Pathway - $57,000
For a crossover at Vanderbilt Beach - uneven asphalt - want to
replace with brick pavers and redoing the boardwalk with plastic
lumber. Pavers are less costly and discussion followed on asphalt
versus pavers. CAC has recommended the project. Handicap was
discussed with wheelchair availability.
Mr. Tucker didn't recall the boardwalk being deteriorated, and
wondered if they are looking at places just to spend money.
Mr. Smith stated the Boardwalk is in bad shape as they are seeing
deterioration in the covers and railings which was a temporary fix
the past.
Ms. Saunders asked if a sidewalk or a pathway could be put in.
ill
Ms. Saunders moved to recommend approval on re-decking
the boardwalk and redoing the bridge, not exceeding $47,000;
and less costly if possible. Second Mr. Tucker. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
6. Beach Renourishment/Re-pave Tigertail Parking Lot -
$25,000
Last part of renovation that is being done to Tigertail. Parking lot
has been patched several times and is in need of re-paving.
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Mr. Dictor moved to approve the re-paving for $25,000.
Second by Mr. Loving. Carried unanimously 7-0.
7. Beach Renourishment/South Marco Parking Lot - $25,000
Mr. Durkin moved to approve the South Marco Parking Lot
expenditure of $25,000. Second by Mr. Dictor.
Carried unanimously 7-0.
8. Beach Renourishment/Pedestrian Beach Access - $200,000
For re-decking pedestrian Boardwalk at Seachase and Gulf Shore
Blvd.
(Should be Vanderbilt Drive - not Gulf Shore Blvd.)
Need permits and will be replaced with plastic lumber. The plastic is
more costly than the treated lumber.
Mr. Durkin moved to defer until reasonable bids are obtained.
Second by Mr. Dinunzio.
Mr. Hovell stated they can't get an engineer to design it and obtain
costs without some funds.
Mr. Smith mentioned it would be approx. $20,000 for engineering
costs. Would have to be done with handicap requirements etc.
Discussion followed on the boardwalk, mandatory handicap and
maybe just finding places to spend money.
Motion carried unanimously 7-0.
VII. New Business:
2. Election of TDC Vice Chairman
Mr. Weft suggested they may want to select from the owner/operator or non-
owner/operator membership.
Mr. Tucker moved to nominate Rhona Saunders as Vice Chairman. Second by
Commissioner Fiala.
Being no further nominations from the floor, nominations were closed.
Motion carried unanimously 7-0 for Rhona Saunders as Vice Chairman.
E. Pelican Bay Services Division
1. Clam Pass Monitoring - $10,000
Cost share of overall Clam Bay monitoring program will be done by
the Pelican Bay division staff.
Kyle Lukasz stated this is a portion of funding for hydrographic
monitoring. Permit allows dredging of Clam Pass.
Mr. Tucker moved approval for the monitoring for $10,000.
Second by Mr. Loving. Carried unanimously 7-0.
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2. Pelican Bay Beach Renourishment - $632,900
Kyle Lukasz stated it is ½ mile of the Ritz Carleton Hotel that meets
the funding policy and Pelican Bay Services Advisory Board
indicated the will recommend additional funding for the remaining
portion of the Pelican Bay Beach within the permitted area.
Mr. Weft said they have to budget the entire amount and then get
reimbursement. ($1.3M)
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the $1.3M, with only $632,900
come out of the TDC funds. Second by Mr. Durkin. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
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Collier County Tourism Department
1. Project Management & Misc. Fees 2005 - $420,000
This is the percentage due the Tax Collector for administering the
funds plus the percentage of staff salaries and operational expenses.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the $420,000 for management and
misc. fees. Second Mr. Dictor. Carried unanimously 7-0.
(Ms. Saunders left at 11:10 AM)
2. Prior Year Category "A" Projects A. City of Naples Grants
B. Lake Trafford Restoration
C. Hideaway Beach Access Improvement
Mr. Hovell stated they reviewed some existing contracts and grants and found some would
not be eligible under the policy, but will continue. Some are: The Gordon Pass Beach &
Turtle Monitoring and the Gordon Pass Jetty Sand Tightening and the Southwest Florida
Water Management Dist. for Lake Trafford Restoration.
The Hideaway Beach access Improvements project needed reconsideration and was then to
do a $25,000 feasibility study for environmental impacts. Now one year later City of Marco
Island suggests continuing forward with project. CAC recommended spending the $25,000
for the environmental study. Staff recommended deferring until more funding policy issues
are addressed as it seems unclear in interpretation of the policy.
Mr. Tucker stated it is interrelated with Tigertail and should approve it.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the $25,000 study. Second by Mr. Dictor.
Mr. Arceri showed a portion of beach access on the map he gave the Council members
earlier. Stated it is to provide better connection between Tigertail to the end. CAC has said
they are not putting a boardwalk there but want a minimum renourishment project to provide
access.
Motion carried unanimously 7-0.
3. Project Updates
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A. Ten Year Plan - pages 198 & 199 - 2 versions.
Beach Park Facilities and Vanderbilt Beach Parking Garage
Mr. Wert mentioned there is still a controversy on how to spend the money over the
next 10 years. The Parks & Rec Committee is not satisfied with either one of them.
The Vanderbilt Beach Parking Garage money seems should still be in reserves and
not part of the annual allocation.
SPEAKERS
Ron Pennington - CAC - much controversy on the funding policy and negotiations with
County Manager Mudd. Projections made for Parks & Rec including Parking Garage was
$20M. He suggested in the policy it would be $2M a year on average a year. Included the
cost of the parking garage spread over the 2 years. The policy was established taking that
into consideration. So didn't agree to take money out of reserves and pay for the garage at
one time of which Parks & Rec had proposed. Policy as established and as was negotiated
included the parking garage over the ten year period.
Maria Ramsey - Director Parks & Recreation - gave a history of the parking garage as
far back as 2000 in which the parking garage was approved in an Executive Summary to
the Board with TDC Funding of $3.8M. It has been sitting in reserve. After the approval
there was a law suit to try to limit the height of the facility. It is now settled, and if no law
suit would have been ongoing the past few years, it would have already been built and the
issue mute. She feels since the BCC had already approved the project, they need to make
a different recommendation if they wish to do so.
Ms. Saunders agreed with Mr. Hovell that at the time the money was put into the reserve,
there also were no monies allocated for Parks and Rec. She feels it is the Parks &
Recreation and should come out of the $2M per year.
Mr. Arceri - CAC & City of Marco Island - the ten year plan has had changes and gave
a few of the changes:
· Project and cost schedules deferred from 2004 t 2005.
· Updated reimbursements from Hideaway and Pelican Bay and others.
· Update TDC Revenues which increased.
· Counties advise for bonding - Park garage and not bond renourishment project
· Catastrophic Reserves.
· $2M allocated for beach facilities
· Gave explanation of the columns of the budget
· Giving the money to Parks & Rec (which they think is outside the policy) would
make the 10 year plan short.
· CAC felt agreements they had included everything.
Commissioner Fiala moved to approve the CAC's recommendation of Version 1.
Second by Mr. Tucker. Carried unanimously 6-0.
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VII. New Business:
1. TDC Appointment
Heidi Ashton wanted the members to know there are applicants that met the two year
consecutive term limit. If the TDC desires to elect one of those candidates, the Commission
can appoint them as long as the Commission has unanimous approval.
Mr. Weft stated the candidates need to meet the criteria for TDC members. One is being a
resident and elector of the County, and fitting the criteria for an owner/operator, non/owner
operator and elected official. It is not mandatory TDC make a recommendation to the BCC.
More information from one of the candidates, Mr. Murray Handel, indicating that he is
employed with CI Travel which makes him eligible. Additional information on Rhona
Saunders added to her resume as per attached.
Mr. Tucker moved to recommend Rhona Saunders remain on the TDC for the non-
owner operator position. Second by Commissioner Fiala. Carried unanimously 6-0.
Mr. Tucker moved to recommend Joe Dinunzio remain on the TDC for the
owner/operator position. Second by Mr. Durkin. Carried 5-1 - Mr. Dinunzio
abstained.
3. KSR Invoice Approval - Prior year - $3,264.86
An invoice that was overlooked.
Mr. Dinunzio moved to approve the past invoice for $3,264.86. Second by Mr. Durkin.
Carried unanimously 6-0.
4. New Full Time Position in FY-05 Budget - $50,000
Things have changed in structure and would like a recommendation for TDC to the BCC for
a full time position.
Mr. Durkin moved to recommend an approval for a new full time position in the 2005
Budget to the BCC. Second from Mr. Dinunzio.
5. Transfer from Reserves for MPI Meeting - $2,831.13
Asking for recommendation of unused funds donated by Collier County Hotels for the MPI
event is returned from Reserves to operating.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the transfer of funds for $2,831.13. Second by
Mr. Dictor. Carried unanimously 6-0.
C. 4 - page 209 - remaining Engineering services related to the Hideaway Beach
Renourishment Project- $384,140
Need to move forward on is $84,000 - permit and bid fees. CAC recommended the $84,670.
Mr. Tucker moved to approve the Engineering Services for $84,670. Second by
Mr. Dictor. Carried unanimously 6-0.
C. 5 - Mr. Hovell elaborated on the schedule. Going out for proposals to start to solicit
Construction Contractors. Waiting for permit. Requests for additional information.
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3. B. - Received request for additional information - will be submitted.
VIII. Announcements -
April 19 - next meeting - one week before the regularly scheduled meeting. Will present
grant applications for "B & C" categories?
· Interest on TDC Funds - Clerk of Courts responded there is a Statute in which he can take
any funds and declare them surplus funds. He has done that in which they will go to the
General Ftmds.
· Heidi Ashton stated the TDC may ask the Board if they desire to do the above, that the
interest money be returned to the TDC.
IX. Audience Input and Discussion - None
X. Council Discussion - None
XI. Next Meeting - April 19 - BCC Chambers 9:00 AM
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by
order of the Chair at 11:32 M.
COLLIER COUNTY TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
Chairman Commissioner Donna Fiala
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