CAC Minutes 02/12/2004 RFebruary 12, 2004
COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, February 12, 2004
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal Advisory
Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 1:30 PM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F"
third floor, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISIONERS BOARDROOM, of
the Govemment Complex, 3301 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, Florida with
the following members present:
David Roellig, Vice Chair
Anthony Pires
James Snediker
Bedford Biles
William Kroeschell
Mr. Pennington
John Arceri
Also Present:
Maria Bemal
Ron Hovell
NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN OF A COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEE MEETING IN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
BOARDROOM, THIRD FLOOR, W. HARMON TURNER BUILDING
(ADMINISTRATION), AT THE COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMPLEX, 3301
EAST TAMIAMI TRAIL, NAPLES, FLORIDA AT 1:30 P.M. ON FEBRUARY 12, 2004.
AGENDA
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Roll Call
Additions to Agenda
New Business
a. Approval of minutes of January 8, 2004
b. 1 O-Year Spending Plan
c. Engineering Services for Wiggins Pass Annual Monitoring
d. Coastal Advisory Committee Candidates for Vacancy
Old Business
a. County / City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update
i. Purchasing Strategy
ii. Public Information Program Phase 2
iii.Engineering Services Proposals
iv. Requests for Additional Information
v. Project Scope and Funding
vi. Schedule
b. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update
i. Purchasing Strategy
ii. Erosion Control Line
iii.Requests for Additional Information
iv. Schedule
c. Review of Recommendations made on January 8, 2004
Audience Participation
Committee Member Comments
Schedule next meeting
Adjournment
ADDITIONALLY, THIS NOTICE ADVISED THAT, IF A PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL
ANY DECISION MADE BY THE COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WITH RESPECT
TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THIS MEETING, HE WILL NEED A RECORD OF
THE PROCEEDINGS AND THAT FOR SUCH PURPOS E, HE MAY NEED TO ENSURE
THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD
INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE
BASED.
February 12, 2004
1. Callto Order
a. 1:34pm
2. Roll Call
3. Additions to Aeenda
a. Introduce Maria Bernal- working in the tourism department
New Business
a. Approval of minute of January 8, 2004
i. Discussion on the use of the term "transcription"
ii. The transcription was not detailed for ease of comprehension for
those not attending.
b. 10 Year Spending Plan "TDC CATEGARY "A" BUDGET
PROJECTIONS "(worksheet) reference)
i. Pennington had met with others having a discussion about this, he
is not in agreement with the number for 2004 and they should be
adjusted in agreement with the original discussion.
ii. Move to amend budget; Vanderbilt parking garage should be
bonded and the beach park facilities budget be brought back into
the agreed 2 million dollars and also incorporate the beach re-
nourishment.
iii. Some of these figures from this worksheet are carried forward
from prior year commitments in various stages of execution.
iv. For clarification a worksheet with a distinction of new
appropriated funds and prior year commitments would assist in
budgeting.
v. Previous motion moved to vote, passed unanimously
vi. Have a subcommittee do a recommended budget. Have someone
from County Finance assist with the project.
vii. Some scenarios where run through the excel work sheet to
demonstrate the budget possibilities.
viii. Included in this worksheet is also a -5% estimated revenue and
possible reimbursements.
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ix. Sub-Committee established:
- Mr. Pennington, Mr. Arced, and Mr. Roellig
1. The three members will email Ron on their availability for
meeting times.
-Speaker: Dick Lydon
Questioned about payment of 2004 taxes, along with the 2 million dollars and
the adjustment for inflation. Commendations were given.
c. Engineering Services for Wiggins Pass Annual Monitoring
i. Wiggins Pass Annual Monitoring is required each year, last year it
was bypassed by the post construction report that was utilized and
accepted by the State.
ii. Annual monitoring is usually performed in May, it is being
brought forth now in order to get the recommendation and issue
the work order to commence with the necessary procedures in a
timely manner.
iii. Moved for approval with a unanimous vote.
-Speaker: Dick Lydon
Addressed a rumor of an ethical nature dealing with Mr. Humiston that he did
not agree with.
d. Coastal Advisory Committee Candidates for Vacancy
i. This position is in replacement of Jack Strapponi. Requirements
for the position were reviewed along with a review of each
candidate and individuals comments. Graham Ginsberg has more
of a technical back ground and is interested in beach access. Rob
Dowling does not have as much of the technical background but
has the understanding of the importance of the beaches being a
realtor and is an advocate for beach renourishment.
ii. Vote was called for Rob Dowling to be elected- vote was
unanimous
5. Old Business
a. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update
February 12, 2004
i. Erosion Control Line
1. A power point presentation was given by Mr. Humiston
from Humsiston & Moore Engineers (reference
presentation)
ii. Requests For Additional Information
Discussion:
-The way the shoals are moving on the shore, there is a possibility of a natural
influx of sand moving on shore. How much or when is unpredictable, a change in
plans is therefore not recommended at this time.
-The permitting process could take up to 3-5 months, best case scenario 90 days.
-One contractor will take care of the entire project.
-Once the permits are in place then the next step can take place with the
preparation of the construction specifications as well as the detailed construction
cost estimated plans.
-A scope and proposal have been provided but a work order has not been given
for the second faze of this project.
Speaker: Graham Ginsberg
Displayed pictures
iii. Purchasing Strategy
1. Two step selection process- Get a list of initial interested
firms, have a prequalification check, and solicit only those
firms that have passed the check. A selection committee
would be needed for this processes.
2. It is the goal to have the contractor mobile around
November, or September. In order for this to be done a
July award for permitting should be targeted. The funds
would need to be awarded this year in order for the project
to move forward this year. Feasibly for success of the
project there can't be two contracts with two separate
selection processes, and award the funds at two separate
times. If two separate contractors are used the timing could
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be off along with the problem of working out the proper
timing of the natural erosion of sand.
3. A five person selection committee with one CAC member (
Jim Snediker) along with Ron Hovell, two others outside
of the department, and a purchasing agent.
4. Discussion on sponsorship definition and description.
Certain areas can sponsor the portion that is within their
boundaries if they so desire.
County / City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update
i. Purchasing Strategy
1. The figure of 9 million dollars was the starting number
from 2 years ago since then more beaches have been added,
therefore the cost estimate is now 17 million dollars. This
includes three fazes of one, two, and three (referencing
worksheet).
ii. Public Information Program Phase 2
1. When this funding for education through the web site was
received by the Tourist Development counsel it was voted
5 to 0 to deny any funding. It was viewed as funding that
could be better spent. Returning with a presentation to
demonstrate the importance of educating the public and
others on all of the on going projects was advised. This is a
good tool for the Hotels that will be directly affected by
these projects. The City might also benefit from working
together on this web site education. David Roellig
volunteered to go the TDC meeting on Monday the 23rd to
give the proposal of scaling back the meeting amounts
down to only 4 meetings instead of 9 in order to decrease
the expenditures.
iii. Engineering Services Proposals
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1. There are three proposals: "Final Design, Plans and
Specifications", "8th Annual Monitoring Report and
Survey", "Borrow Area N5 and Pipeline Corridor Marine
Resources Investigations"
2. The cost of aerial photography might not be necessary
since the County already does this.
3. Motion to have County staff are to conclude negotiations
and issue a work order not to exceed initial proposal for
"Final Design, Plans and Specifications". All voted and
unanimously passed
4. For page 23 the date needs to be switched from July 2002
to 2003.
5. Motion to pass"8th Annual Monitoring report and Survey"
Voted on and unanimously passed with changes.
6. On page 47 there is a typo. Faze one and faze two can be
ongoing simultaneously. It has to be Horizon way at the
end of R52. On page 60 next to the last paragraph the
southern limit of the project is set at R-88 it is suggested to
be R-80. The first paragraph on page 60 states "Since
Clam Pass is predominately closed", it is open.
7. Request to have comments to be incorporated for the
"Borrow Area N5 and Pipeline Corridor Marine Resources
Investigations"
c. Review of Recommendations made on January 8, 2004
i. Discussion of size of grain of sand and color
Audience Participation
a. None
Committee Member Comments
a. Commendations for Mafia Bemal
Schedule next meetin~
a. Next Meeting is scheduled for March 11th 1:30 in BCC Boardroom.
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9. Adiournment
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned
by order to the Vice Chair at 5:30 pm.
Collier County Coastal Advisory Council
Vice Chairperson, Mr. David Roellig
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