CEB Minutes 11/17/2017November 17, 2017
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TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY CODE
ENFORCEMENT BOARD
Naples, Florida, November 17, 2017
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Code
Enforcement Board, in and for the County of Collier, having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in
REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Robert Kaufman
Robert Ashton
Sue Curley
Ron Doino
Gerald J. Lefebvre
Kathleen Elrod
James Lavinski (Excused)
Lionel L'Esperance (Excused)
Herminio Ortega (Absent)
ALSO PRESENT:
Kerry Adams, Code Enforcement
Jeff Letourneau, Manager of Investigations
Tamara Lynne Nicola, Attorney to the Board
Danny Blanco, Administrative Secretary
Co ler County
Growth Management Department
Code Enforcement Division i
Code Enforcement Board Hearing
AGENDA
Board of County Commission Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3`d Floor
Naples, FL 34112
November 17, 2017
9:00 AM
Robert Kaufman, Chair
James Lavinski, Vice Chair
Gerald Lefebvre, Member
Lionel L'Esperance, Member
Ronald Doino, Member
Robert Ashton, Member
Sue Curley, Member
Kathleen Elrod,Alternate
Herminio Ortega, Alternate
Notice: Respondents may be limited to twenty (20) minutes for case presentation unless
additional time is granted by the Board. Persons wishing to speak on any agenda item will
receive up to five (5) minutes unless the time is adjusted by the Chairman.
All parties participating in the public hearing are asked to observe Roberts Rules of Order and
speak one at a time so that the court reporter can record all statements being made.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a record of the proceedings
pertaining thereto, and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is
made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
Neither Collier County nor the Code Enforcement Board shall be responsible for providing this
record.
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II. ROLL CALL
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS/MOTIONS
A. MOTIONS
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE
MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME
B. STIPULATIONS
C. HEARINGS
1. CASE NO: CELU20170008971
OWNER: DJ Price LLC
OFFICER: Colleen Davidson
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 2.02.03 and Collier County Code of Laws and
Ordinances, Chapter 130, Article III, Section 130-96(a).
Recreational vehicles being stored on vacant lot.
FOLIO NO: 61833080003
VIOLATION 2589 Terrace Ave,Naples
ADDRESS:
2. CASE NO: CEPM20170014328
OWNER: Louis G Borodinsky and Barbara Borodinsky
OFFICER: Stephen Athey
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 22,
Buildings and Buildings Regulations, Article VI Property
Maintenance Code, Section 22-231(19). Elevated mold levels in
dwelling.
FOLIO NO: 30875005268
VIOLATION 1840 Florida Club Cir Unit 5201,Naples
ADDRESS:
3. CASE NO: CESD20170008064
OWNER: Lynne V. Cadenhead
OFFICER: Christopher Harmon
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(A) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(E)(I). Expired
Building Permit PRBD20150827018.
FOLIO NO: 74414040006
VIOLATION 3414 Cherokee Street,Naples
ADDRESS:
4. CASE NO: CEPM20170011382
OWNER: G Locke Galbraith
OFFICER: Stephen Athey
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 22
Buildings and Building Regulations, Article VI Property
Maintenance Code, Section 22-231-(19). Elevated mold levels
in dwelling.
FOLIO NO: 60606001553
VIOLATION 1261 Naples Lake Dr.,Naples
ADDRESS:
5. CASE NO: CEPM20170013257
OWNER: Surinder S Chandok
OFFICER: Stephen Athey
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 22
Buildings and Building Regulations, Article VI Property
Maintenance Code, Section 22-231(12)(c), Section 22-
231(12)(i), and Section 22-228(1). Unsecure dwelling, roof in
disrepair,and garage door in disrepair.
FOLIO NO: 26430200001
VIOLATION 4000 Gali Blvd,Naples
ADDRESS:
6. CASE NO: CEROW20160001923
OWNER: N-A Properties LLC
OFFICER: Delicia Pulse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 110
Roads and Bridges, Section 110-31(a). Right of Way Permit No.
PRROW20170102473 has expired.
FOLIO NO: 38169440007
VIOLATION 5630 Copper Leaf Ln,Naples
ADDRESS:
7. CASE NO: CESD20170002774
OWNER: N-A Properties LLC
OFFICER: Delicia Pulse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a)(e) and(i). In ground swimming pool
on property with no barrier and no permits obtained.
FOLIO NO: 38169440007
VIOLATION 5630 Copper Leaf Ln,Naples
ADDRESS:
8. CASE NO: CEPM20170015597
OWNER: Skyteam LLC
OFFICER: Stephen Athey
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 22,
Buildings and Building Regulations, Article VI Property
Maintenance Code, Section 22-231(19). Elevated mold levels in
dwelling.
FOLIO NO: 46573004160
VIOLATION 193 Santa Clara Dr.,Unit 9,Naples
ADDRESS:
9. CASE NO: CEPM20170007397
OWNER: Laker Investment MGMT Inc
OFFICER: Frank Bolzano
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 22
Buildings and Building Regulations, Article VI Property
Maintenance Code, Section 22-228(1). Loose sewer caps not
seated correctly and in need of repair or replacement. Both are a
safety and health hazard.
FOLIO NO: 35980440001
VIOLATION 4500 Golden Gate Pkwy,Naples
ADDRESS:
10. CASE NO: CESD20170004712
OWNER: IBO LLC
OFFICER: Juan Garcia
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(A) and I0.02.06(B)(1)(E). Converted
part of the existing screened patio to an enclosed structure with
electric and air conditioning without first obtaining all required
Collier County Building Permits and approvals.
FOLIO NO: 63866840001
VIOLATION 313 Nixon Dr., Immokalee
ADDRESS:
11. CASE NO: CESD20170001654
OWNER: Helen Braughman
OFFICER: Joseph Giannone
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A). Three unpermitted structures/mobile
homes on the property.
FOLIO NO: 1134803606
VIOLATION 15859 Janes Scenic Dr.,Copeland
ADDRESS:
D. MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF FINES/LIENS
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. MOTION FOR IMPOSITION OF FINES/LIENS
1• CASE NO: CESD20160017293
OWNER: Manuel Lopez Parchment
OFFICER: Steven Lopez-Silvero
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A). Unpermitted frame storage
building/shed in the rear yard of improved occupied residential
property.
FOLIO NO: 35740520006
VIOLATION 2069 415`TER SW,Naples
ADDRESS:
2. CASE NO: CEPM20160004343
OWNER: Union Road LLC
OFFICER: Stephen Athey
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 22,
Article VI, Sections 22-231(12)(b), 22-231(12)(i), and 22-
231(12)(c). Roof in disrepair, windows and doors missing
and/or broken; exterior walls in disrepair.
FOLIO NO: 01058920513
VIOLATION 12400 Union RD,Naples
ADDRESS:
3. CASE NO: CELU20170004265
OWNER: 11222 Tamiami LLC
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 1.04.01(A) and 2.02.03. Commercial container being
stored on an unimproved lot.
FOLIO NO: 60783280006
VIOLATION No Site Address
ADDRESS:
4. CASE NO: CELU20160015397
OWNER: G&E S Gonzalez Trust and Josue Daniel Gonzalez
OFFICER: Steven Lopez-Silvero
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 1.04.01(A). Observed an unapproved food trailer
operating/parked on improved occupied commercial property.
FOLIO NO: 25581000009
VIOLATION 102 S 4th ST, Immokalee
ADDRESS:
5. CASE NO: CESD20160011175
OWNER: Maria O.Jimenez
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(A) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(E)(I). Permitted
lanai with slab and trusses that was converted into living space
without first obtaining a valid Collier County Permit.
FOLIO NO: 62262720001
VIOLATION 5326 Trammell St.,Naples
ADDRESS:
6. CASE NO: CESD20150024661
OWNER: Theodore Canales
OFFICER: Steven Lopez-Silvero
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A). Renovating the interior and exterior
of single family residence prior to an issuance of a building
permit.
FOLIO NO: 30681960005
VIOLATION 1402 Orange St., Immokalee
ADDRESS:
7. CASE NO: CESD20160016422
OWNER: Farman Ullah
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A) and Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(E)(I).
Interior remodeling consisting of but not limited to, removing
drywall and insulation with plans to replace them with new
drywall without first obtaining a valid Collier County Permit.
FOLIO NO: 62205720000
VIOLATION 5349 Holland St.,Naples
ADDRESS:
8. CASE NO: CESD20160007819
OWNER: Manfred S. Dunker
OFFICER: Arthur Ford
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A). Demolition of interior, sheet rock,
plumbing, etc witnessed on May 10th, 2016 by Contractor
Licensing Investigators, Ian Jackson and Steve Kovacs.
FOLIO NO: 27581000007
VIOLATION 400 Oak Ave,Naples
ADDRESS:
9. CASE NO: CESD20150002237
OWNER: Edward M.Miller and Brittany L. Miller
OFFICER: Patrick Baldwin
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(E)(I). Complete
remodel of the kitchen, master bathroom, bathroom, family
room, replaced windows and replaced soffits. All work done
without Collier County Building Permits.
FOLIO NO: 38051960006
VIOLATION 3875 31"Ave SW,Naples
ADDRESS:
10. CASE NO: CESD20150015459
OWNER: Frances Poole
OFFICER: Arthur Ford
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A). A rear deck installation and lanai
conversion/enclosure and window installation without required
Collier County permits, inspections and certificate of
completion/occupancy.
FOLIO NO: 24982560000
VIOLATION 1865 Harbor Ln,Naples
ADDRESS:
11. CASE NO: CESD20150011320
OWNER: Kelly Baker
OFFICER: Joseph Giannone
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(A). A single wide mobile home and
utility shed staged on improved unoccupied residential property
without first obtaining the required permit(s), inspections, and
certificate of occupancy/completion.
FOLIO NO: 01132480005
VIOLATION 259 Gladys Ct,Naples
ADDRESS:
B. MOTION TO RESCIND PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ORDER
C. MOTION TO AMEND PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ORDER
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII.CONSENT AGENDA
A. REQUEST TO FORWARD CASES TO COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS REFERENCED IN
SUBMITTED EXECUITVE SUMMARY.
IX. REPORTS
X. COMMENTS
XI. NEXT MEETING DATE-FRIDAY,JANUARY 26, 2018 AT 9:00 A.M.
XII. ADJOURN
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning. I'd like to bring the
Code Enforcement Board to order. Let's see. We have a few folks that
we're waiting on, but we're going to start anyhow.
Notice: Respondents are limited to 20 minutes of case
presentation unless additional time is granted by the Board. Persons
wishing to speak on any agenda item will receive up to five minutes
unless the time is adjusted by the Chairman.
All parties participating in the public hearing are asked to observe
Robert's Rules of Order and speak one at a time so that the court
reporter can record all statements being made.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of the Board will
need a record of the proceedings pertaining thereto and, therefore, may
need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made,
which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the
appeal is to be based. Neither Collier County nor the Code
Enforcement Board shall be responsible for providing this record.
Now, if you have a cell phone, perfect time to turn it off.
And with that, we stand for the Pledge.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, Kerry. Why don't we start
with the roll call.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Robert Kaufman?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Gerald Lefebvre?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Ronald Doino?
MR. DOINO: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Robert Ashton?
MR. ASHTON: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Ms. Sue Curley?
MS. CURLEY: Here.
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MS. ADAMS: Ms. Kathleen Elrod?
MS. ELROD: Here.
MS. ADAMS: And Mr. James Lavinski is absent, Mr. Lionel
L'Esperance is absent, and Herminio Ortega is absent.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Tami, you made it.
MS. NICOLA: Just barely. I told you guys I was going to be a
little bit late.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You're 10 minutes before we thought
you'd be here.
MS. NICOLA: I know. Amazing, right?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Absolutely.
MS. NICOLA: I tried. I promise I didn't speed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me just flip flop on --
does anybody have any comments on the minutes that were sent out?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, could we get a motion
to accept the minutes?
MR. DOINO: Motion to accept.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Motion and a second. All those in
favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It passes unanimously. Okay.
I think we have a few changes, Kerry?
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MS. ADAMS: Yes. Roman Numeral 5, Public Hearing,
Motions, Letter B, Stipulations, we have three additions.
The first is No. 6 from Hearings. It's Case
CEROW20160001923, N-A Properties, LLC.
The second stipulation is No. 7 from Hearings, Case
CESD20170002774, N-A Properties, LLC.
The third is No. 10 from Hearings, CESD20170004712, IBO,
LLC.
Letter C, Hearings, No. 1, Case CELU20170008971, DJ Price,
LLC, has been drawn.
Number 2, Case CEPM20170014328, Louis G. Borodinsky and
Barbara Borodinsky, has been withdrawn.
Number 3, Case CESD20170008064, Lynn V. Cadenhead, has
been withdrawn.
Number 4, Case CEMP20170011382, G. Locke Galbraith, has
been withdrawn.
Number 5, Case CEPM20170013257, Surinder S. Chandok, has
withdrawn.
Number 8, Case CEPM20170015597, Skyteam, LLC, has been
drawn.
Roman Numeral VI, Old Business, Letter A, Motion for
Imposition of Fines and Liens, No. 1, Case CESD20160017293,
Manuel Lopez Parchment, has been withdrawn.
Number 4, Case CELU20160015397, G&E S. Gonzalez Trust
and Josue Daniel Gonzalez, has been withdrawn.
And that's all the changes to the agenda.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could we get a motion to
accept the changes?
MR. DOINO: Motion to accept.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Motion and a second. All those in
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favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. We did the minutes.
I guess we're up to the stips. By the way, if you want to go out of
order for the people that are here, we can do that.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. The first stipulation is going to be No. 6
from hearings, Case CEROW20160001923, N-A Properties, LLC.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
microphone.
MR. SEPANSKI: Thomas Sepanski.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning, Dee.
MS. PULSE: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you want to read the stipulation
into the record?
MS. PULSE: It comes now the undersigned, Thomas G.
Sepanski, on behalf of N-A Properties, LLC, as representative for
respondent, and enters into the stipulation and agreement with Collier
County as the resolution of notices of violation in reference to Case
No. CEROW20160001923 dated the 17th day of February 2016.
By the way, for the record, Dee Pulse, Collier County Code
Enforcement.
It is agreed between the parties that the respondent shall:
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Number 1, pay operational costs in the amount of $59.35 incurred
in the prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing;
Number 2, abate all violations by obtaining all required Collier
County right-of-way permits and inspections through final approval
and/or remove all offending material from the right-of-way for any
activity not permitted with a valid Collier County right-of-way permit
within 60 days of this hearing, or a fine of $100 per day will be
imposed until the violation is abated;
Number 3, the respondent must notify Code Enforcement within
24 hours of abatement of the violation and request the investigator
perform a site inspection to confirm compliance;
Number 4, that if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the
county may abate the violation using any method to bring the violation
into compliance and may use the assistance of the Collier County
Sheriff's Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement, and all
costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Was this a case where it's one
of those pipes that goes under the driveway?
MS. PULSE: Culvert.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You agree to the stipulation
as written?
MR. SEPANSKI: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any problem making the 60 days?
MR. SEPANSKI: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any questions from the
Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any motions from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept the stipulation as written.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
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those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thank you.
MS. PULSE: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next stipulation is No. 7 from hearings. It's
Case CESD20170002774, N-A Properties, LLC.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you want to read the
stipulation in? I have a few questions on this one.
MS. PULSE: Okay. For the record, Dee Pulse, Collier County
Code Enforcement investigator.
It comes now the undersigned, Thomas G. Sepanski, on behalf of
N-A Properties, LLC, representative for respondent, and enters into the
stipulation and agreement with Collier County as to the resolution of
the notices of violation in reference to Case No. CESD20170002774,
dated 15th day of June 2017.
Therefore, it is agreed between the parties that the respondent
shall:
Pay operational costs in the amount of $59.49 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing;
Number 2, abate all violations by obtaining all required Collier
County building permits or demolition permit, inspections, and
certificate of completion/occupancy for the in-ground pool and a
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permanent barrier around pool within 90 days of this hearing, or a fine
of $100 per day will be imposed until the violation is abated;
Number 3, must erect a temporary barrier around the pool within
seven days of this hearing, or a fine of $150 per day will be imposed
until the violation is abated;
Number 4, the respondent must notify Code Enforcement within
24 hours of abatement of the violation and request the investigator
perform a site inspection to confirm compliance;
Number 5, that if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the
county may abate the violation using any method to bring the violation
into compliance and may use the assistance of the Collier County
Sheriff's Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement, and all
costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: My question on this is, this
originally was in June 15th of '17, four, five months ago.
MS. CURLEY: February. February 23rd it was first observed.
MR. ASHTON: February.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It says date owner/person given --
MS. CURLEY: Item No. 5.
MR. ASHTON: Violation.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I understand. But this is a safety and
health type thing. I am very surprised that this thing dragged on this
long. This should have been seven days initially.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah, I'm not -- I agree. I'm not -- if you give
them 90 days, that means there's been a pool unprotected for one year.
That's really --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, it's seven days to put up a
temporary fence; 90 days to have the permanent thing.
MS. CURLEY: Well, it was asked to be corrected July 14th, so
that's a long time ago.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
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MS. CURLEY: So it's just taken all this delay time for them to
come here, and the violation still remains?
MS. PULSE: Yes.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah. What happened?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is a temporary barrier up?
MS. PULSE: No, sir.
MS. CURLEY: No temporary barrier? How was this reported?
MS. PULSE: A complaint received to our office.
MS. CURLEY: I'm glad that my grandkids don't live next door to
this house.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, those are my two cents worth
on a safety and health. Generally, safety and health, unless I'm
mistaken, is like the first case we hear when we get together, and yet
this thing has dragged on for this amount of time.
MR. LEFEBVRE: When was this stipulated agreement signed?
Was it just signed?
MS. PULSE: This morning.
MS. CURLEY: Well, let's fix it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have a suggestion?
MS. CURLEY: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well --
MR. LEFEBVRE: I think -- I think if we were sitting here back
in June, I think 90 days or shorter than a period of 90 days would be
acceptable, but in the circumstances with pool contractors -- and I
know my mother's trying to get a pool contractor to fix her lanai screen
and can't even get anyone to call her back.
MS. CURLEY: So I just got a pool -- I mean, a fence quote, and
they could start in three weeks.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Fence or a lanai?
MS. CURLEY: A fence around the pool.
MR. ASHTON: But if you're planning on doing a lanai --
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MS. CURLEY: Well, we don't know what their plans are, but
they must not either, because it's going to be a year for them to figure it
out.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, it's the -- how long does it take
to put up a temporary fence is the question that I'm concerned with.
MS. CURLEY: Two hours.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So, to be honest, I'm not
happy with seven days to put up a temporary fence considering that
this was signed this morning. I would think that should be up and done
in a much --
MS. CURLEY: February.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- a much quicker time frame. I
don't know how the rest of the Board feels.
MS. CURLEY: I have a couple questions. Is this house
occupied, and is the pool filled with water?
MS. PULSE: The house is occupied. I cannot verify if it's filled
with water.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You can ask the respondent.
MR. SEPANSKI: Yes, it is.
MR. ASHTON: Dee, is the pool in a lanai, or is it just in the
backyard?
MS. PULSE: Just in the backyard.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And there's no fence around the property at
all?
MS. PULSE: There is vegetation on one side. There is a
chain-link fence.
MR. SEPANSKI: Two sides.
MS. PULSE: Two sides. But, yeah, the vegetation, I can't tell if
it is completely solid fencing in there or some type of wood
barricade-type fence, but there are gaps in that barricade fence.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sir, is it possible to put a temporary
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fence up there in a period of time that's shorter than seven days?
MR. SEPANSKI: Yeah, sure. I mean, I don't know how long it's
going to take to get a permit, but -- it's Friday.
MR. LEFEBVRE: A temporary fence.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: A temporary fence, I'm not sure -- do
you know, Jeff, do you need a permit to put up a temporary fence?
MS. PULSE: No.
MR. McNABB: Yes, you do.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Well, we're just asking for some type of --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Barrier.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. You know how you see the orange
construction fences that are up that --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
MR. LETOURNEAU: -- you know, something that somebody
can see very clearly while they're entering that property. Do you
understand what I'm saying? The orange kind of -- it might be made of
cloth or whatever.
MS. PULSE: Or plastic.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Or plastic, yeah. That doesn't need a
permit. You can go down to Home Depot, probably, and buy that and
put some stakes in the ground and wrap that around the pool.
MR. LEFEBVRE: You can get chicken wire and put it up
probably. I mean --
MR. SEPANSKI: Well, I thought your concern was putting one
up properly. Why would I put up two? You want me to up a little
orange fence? I mean, your concern is you hope your grandkids don't
live there. Well, I don't think that orange fence is going to save your
six-year-old grandkids either. I mean, if I can get a permit, we'll put up
the fence right away. That's on the county.
MS. CURLEY: Well, why didn't you apply for one back in, like,
February or March or April or May, June?
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MR. McNABB: There's an ongoing --
MS. CURLEY: -- June, July, August, September --
MR. McNABB: -- construction project on this property.
MS. CURLEY: -- October?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hold on. Hold on. If you want to
testify, you have to be sworn in. Do you want to testify?
MR. McNABB: Yes, please.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Stand up to the microphone
and --
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do you want to hear this case?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, I just want to --
MR. McNABB: Troy McNabb.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Your relation to this property?
MR. McNABB: I reside there. I'm also the contractor.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. McNABB: And this became an issue over retaliation from a
disgruntled neighbor that does not approve of the building that I have
put in the backyard. This pool has been like this since 2009, well
before 2009.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It was not fenced?
MR. McNABB: No.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is there a permit for it?
MR. McNABB: No.
MS. CURLEY: Is there some sort of grandfathering that you're
allowed to not permit?
MR. McNABB: We did not put the pool in. The pool was
installed in 1996 by, I believe, Heritage Concrete, Dee?
MS. PULSE: I have no idea who installed it.
MR. McNABB: I believe that's what I was told.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, the thing is, whether you did it
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or not, if you own it, you own it. That's --
MR. McNABB: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- what the rule is. So our concern is
safety. So if we leave here today and somebody happens to fall in that
pool and drown, this would not fair well for what we do. I mean, if it
takes to wrap one of those orange plastic fences around there
immediately until you get the permanent one done, that's fine.
MR. McNABB: That is what we will do. But there's no
difference between falling in that pool and the 10-acre lake that is
unprotected 30 feet away.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, the difference is that one is the
law --
MR. McNABB: Just making that point.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- and the other one isn't.
MR. McNABB: There will be an orange barrier around it before
the end of the weekend.
MS. CURLEY: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you want to amend your
stipulation to show that?
MR. LETOURNEAU: So can we amend it to three days then?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sure.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay. All right. Then we'll change it
right now, and then they have to initial it.
MS. CURLEY: Wait. Let's amend the other section, too. It
doesn't take 90 days to get a pool fence permit.
MR. ASHTON: How long would it take to get a permit for the
fence?
MR. McNABB: Ten days.
MS. CURLEY: Well, a pool is a little harder.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Putting it up is, you know -- it would be a
lot longer, obviously.
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MS. CURLEY: Let's change it from 90 to -- wait. I would like to
suggest --
MR. McNABB: Change it from 90 to 30.
MS. CURLEY: -- thirty.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASHTON: Okay.
MR. SEPANSKI: We're still going to need 90 to get the permit
for the pool itself.
MR. McNABB: Now, the pool permit will not be done in 30. I
paid for that back in June.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You say the pool permit. The permit
to construct the pool?
MR. LEFEBVRE: We're not here for that.
MR. McNABB: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, we're not hearing that right
now.
MR. McNABB: Well, it's all part of one.
(Multiple speakers speaking.)
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah, we are. I believe that pool permit
is part of this.
MS. PULSE: Yes.
MR. LETOURNEAU: So, I mean, we could make separate --
you know, 30 days -- at this point it would be so hard to rewrite the
stipulation. Maybe we want to just hear the case. Because it's going to
-- if you guys are going to split up the pool and the pool fence, then it's
going to be --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, I don't understand --
MR. LETOURNEAU: -- more than just changing a couple
numbers in here.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I don't understand the case. So
there's a pool that was put in years and years ago that was never
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permitted?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's one thing.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The unpermitted pool doesn't have a
fence around it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's Item 2. So a temporary fence
is one of the things we're talking about, and then a permanent fence or
barrier around the pool is No. 3.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Correct. To bring the pool and get the
final CO for the pool, you would need a permitted, approve barrier
around the pool.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So those are the three items.
Are there any other items that I'm missing?
MR. LETOURNEAU: No, that's it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Could you get the pool permit, fence permit,
and everything completed within 45 days? What needs to be done to
finish the pool? I mean, it sounds like it's filled.
MR. McNABB: It's fine. It's finished. It was just put in by
somebody who didn't feel the need to pull a permit for it --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So then all it needs --
MR. McNABB: -- 25 years ago.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So then all it would need is putting up the
fence --
MR. McNABB: Correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- and then coming out for inspections?
MR. McNABB: Correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So how about 45 days?
MR. McNABB: That's fine.
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MR. LETOURNEAU: Perfect.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do 45 days and get everything done and not
have to hear this case again.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The only thing is the temporary
fence.
MR. McNABB: Three days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They're going to have that done.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right, within three days. Correct.
MS. ASHTON: Yeah. Three days on the temporary.
MS. CURLEY: Just a clarification. N-A Properties, is one of
you the owner of that property?
MR. SEPANSKI: I am.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. Thanks.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So you would agree and,
Dee, you'll mark it up and have it signed, and --
MR. LEFEBVRE: So we're changing the "90" to "45" and the
"seven" days to get the temporary barrier to "three" days?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And if they agree, let's make a motion and --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I make a motion to approve the changes as
stated.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
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MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
MS. CURLEY: Just be a good neighbor.
MS. ADAMS: The next stipulation is No. 10 from hearings, Case
CESD20170004712, IBO, LLC.
MR. OZBAY: Hello, everybody.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can you state your name on the
microphone for us?
MR. OZBAY: Yes. My name is Erhan Ozbay.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This was a case for Juan
Garcia, and you're representing him?
MR. AMBACH: Juan Garcia is the Investigator that was on the
case.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'm sorry.
MR. AMBACH: I'm going to be presenting that today for him.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Wrong tab.
Do you want to read the stipulation into the record?
MR. AMBACH: Yes, sir.
For the record, Chris Ambach, Collier County Code Enforcement.
Therefore, it is agreed between the parties that the respondent
shall pay operational costs in the amount of $59.91 -- it just went
blank. It just came back on -- incurred in the prosecution of this case
within 30 days of this hearing; obtaining all required Collier County
approvals, building permits or demolition permit, inspections and
certificate of completion and/or occupancy for the enclosed screen
patio with new windows and electric within 90 days of this hearing, or
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a fine of $250 per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Cease using the unpermitted enclosure until all Collier County
approvals, permits, inspections, and certificate of occupancy is
obtained.
Respondent must notify Code Enforcement within 24 hours of
abatement of the violation and request the investigator perform a site
inspection to confirm compliance; that if the respondent fails to abate
the violation, the county may abate the violation using any method to
bring the violation into compliance and may use the assistance of the
Collier County Sheriff's Office to enforce the provisions of this
agreement, and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property
owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have some questions
from the Board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yeah.
MS. CURLEY: Can you pull that down so we see the top of it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Chris, is that "immediately" cease.
MR. AMBACH: Yeah. You may want to add that in there.
MR. LETOURNEAU: For the record, Jeff Letourneau, Collier
County Code Enforcement. I think that we're asking, on No. 3,
immediately cease using the unpermitted enclosure.
MR. LEFEBVRE: How about putting in there a period.
"Immediately" could be -- I would say two, three days or something to
that effect, or a fine of X amount.
MR. AMBACH: Twenty-four hours.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Twenty-four hours or a fine of $100 a
day. Is it occupied right now, sir?
MR. OZBAY: It's not. It's -- there's nobody -- it hasn't been. It's
just junk that's been in there. That's pretty much it. Nobody goes in
there. It has a separate door as well, too.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Does it have a separate circuit
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breaker?
MR. OZBAY: Yes, it has its own separate circuit breaker.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That should be part -- that electric
should be turned off.
MR. OZBAY: Yeah, we can. No problem.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. It's interesting to me, on --
this is, again, going back, that the violation was first observed in
March, which is many moons ago; that it's worked its way up to now. I
don't know that this was safety. With electric, we sometimes view that
as a safety.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'm not trying to make excuses, but I will
say that most of these cases were probably scheduled around the
hurricane and then got delayed a couple months. I know it's not, you
know, a total excuse, but they would have been here earlier, I think.
MS. CURLEY: But they still were re-inspected November 6th.
It's like they got two extra months to get things in order.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah, but -- okay. I don't know. I'm just
saying I think this case was scheduled to go earlier, and it got
postponed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. All right. You understand the
stipulation as it's been written?
MR. OZBAY: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the date that you have on there,
again, Chris, is?
MR. AMBACH: Within 24 hours.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's nonuse of it, and then all the
permits and the approvals need to be completed by?
MR. AMBACH: Ninety days.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So cease using unpermitted enclosure within
24 hours, and all circuit breakers to that area shall be turned off.
MR. LETOURNEAU: We could say all utilities.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: All utilities, okay.
MS. CURLEY: Well, cease using it. You mean you want them
to take everything they have stored in it out of it?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, I don't think the stuff will --
MS. CURLEY: It doesn't sound like there's people in it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: No, no. Just living in it, using it.
MR. OZBAY: Yeah, nobody's -- it's not operational. Nobody
goes in there. The light doesn't even turn on because it's just electricity
waste. So we'll turn the breaker off; that way there's no questions.
MS. NICOLA: Is the Board adding a fine to Paragraph No. 3?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yep.
MS. NICOLA: A hundred dollars a day?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Correct.
MS. NICOLA: Well, he has to agree to it, right? It's a
stipulation, so it's going to have to be --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
MS. NICOLA: Okay. I just want to make sure I write this up
properly.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I can take a stab at what Chris needs to
write here. So cease using the unpermitted enclosure for living
purposes and disconnect all utilities within 24 hours until all Collier
County approvals, permits, inspections, and certificate of occupancy is
obtained, or a $100-a-day fine will be imposed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I realize that we're not
hearing the case now, but I am curious as to -- is this a property that
you bought that had this in it, or did this work -- this work was
performed by a licensed --
MR. OZBAY: Yeah. It was an unlicensed. We had a
screened-in enclosure, so we put a glass -- you know, a wall and a
glass on there. So we're understanding that's, you know, against
permitting. We didn't have permits for that. So we want to correct the
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matter. We have a meeting with a new architect on Monday. Of
course, they know more of codes than I do to, you know, make sure
we're in code and everything's okay.
We just haven't -- I've been out personally, you know, the last two
months, so I've been away. So I haven't been able to deal with the
matter, but I am personally dealing with the matter. So I'm in contact
with our GC as well, too. We're having a meeting Monday. So the
goal is just to finish this up in the quickest time as possible.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Was this a referral from the
contractors licensing?
MR. AMBACH: No, sir. It was a complaint.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And the contractors, you said,
were not licensed?
MR. OZBAY: No, the contractor is licensed, but we didn't have
any permit. We didn't pull a permit for this job.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, if he was licensed, he should
have pulled the permit for you.
MR. OZBAY: We started it, then we brought on the contractor.
He didn't initiate it. Yeah, it was our --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Okay. Any other questions
of the respondent?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, should we wait till you get
finished writing, Jeff?
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'm working on it here. I think we all
understand what No. 3 is.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Okay. Do we have any
motion from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept the stipulation with the
amendment.
MR. DOINO: Second.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Pick one.
Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay.
MR. OZBAY: Thank you for your time.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Just make sure you initial off.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: How come you have a sign there that
says smile?
MR. AMBACH: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thanks, Chris.
MS. ADAMS: There was one other stipulation added to the
agenda. It's No. 11 from hearings. Item 5C11. It's Case
CESD20170001654, Helen Braughman.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let's get a --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Motion to amend.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- motion to amend the agenda.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. This is No. 11.
MR. LEFEBVRE: How about No. 9?
MS. ADAMS: It's No. 11.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Correct me if I'm wrong. This was
the three unpermitted structures, et cetera?
MR. GIANNONE: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We got everybody sworn?
Ready to go?
Okay. You want to read the stipulation into the record?
MR. GIANNONE: Sure. For the record, Joseph Giannone,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
It has been agreed between the parties that the respondent shall:
Pay all operational costs in the amount of 59.70 incurred in this
prosecution of this case within 30 days of the hearing;
Number 2, abate all violations by obtaining all required Collier
County building permits, inspections, and certificate of
completion/occupancy within 180 days of this hearing, or a fine of
$250 per day will be imposed until the violation is abated;
Three, respondent must notify Code Enforcement within 24 hours
of abatement of the violation and request that the investigator perform
a site inspection to confirm compliance;
Four, if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may
abate the violation using any method to bring the violation into
compliance and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriff's
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Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement, and all costs of
abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do we have any questions
from the Board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is this a permitted use to have three mobile
homes on this property?
MR. GIANNONE: It was never permitted, sir. That's the issue.
MR. LEFEBVRE: No, what I'm saying is --
MR. ASHTON: Allowed.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- are they allowed to have three on this
property?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What's the zoning?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Because you crossed out "or demo permit."
MR. GIANNONE: I inherited this case just recently, so --
MS. CURLEY: So I have a question for Helen.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hang on one second. Go ahead, Joe.
You've got to be sworn in?
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. MUCHA: For the record, Joe Mucha, Collier County Code
Enforcement.
The reason that's crossed out is when we presented this to the
building official, he said if she wanted to remove the structures that she
wouldn't need a permit, and -- because she's using them as storage.
That's why -- they would be allowed if she was to permit them.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Sue?
MS. CURLEY: I have a question. So when you bought this in
1995, there's --
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Ninety-one.
MS. CURLEY: Ninety-one.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: I think so. Yes, ma'am.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. It said there was two mobile homes on
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the property. Are these the same ones? Because it's showing together
with --
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Everything's the same; everything's the
same as it was. The two mobile homes were there, but there was other
places for storing.
MS. CURLEY: Got it.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: They've been there for 30 years. Been
there longer than that. And you did bring up -- excuse me. Is it okay if
I --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: One second. Just, for the record,
could you say your name on the microphone.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: My name is Helen Braughman.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Thank you.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: You brought up a good subject a minute
ago about grandfathered in. I was under the influence (sic) that we
were grandfathered in out there. And we also have the Copeland
overlay thing that was redone about 10 years ago, which puts me in
that category. And I'm just wondering what "grandfathered in" means
if it's not recognized.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Have you provided that
documentation to the county? And their response was?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: They just got the -- they just -- it's ongoing
from a while back. But I've been harassed for the last 10 years over
this.
MS. CURLEY: I think it's a good idea if you speak to the
officials. But I will say that on your Quit Claim Deed it lists the
mobile home ID numbers which, if these are the original ones from
1995 where this Quit Claim Deed says you purchased the property,
then that would be a discussion you would have with the county
official.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: I know why. Okay. It was transferred
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into my name. That's why. Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: I remember now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any comments on that,
Joe?
MR. MUCHA: I was just going to say, as far as the overlay's
concerned, I mean, you still need to get building permits when they're
required. So these storage buildings might be an allowable use, but
they still require building permits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And as we mentioned in the
previous case, you're the lucky person that owns the property, so you're
the lucky person that has the violation, if it is a violation.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Do you know it would cost me $11,000, a
permit?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, we're not here to hear the case.
We're here to hear the stipulation, unless you want us to hear the case.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: I'm fine. Thank you.
MR. LETOURNEAU: For the record, can I -- Jeff Letourneau,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
When you -- these buildings, I believe, were built after '86, and
"grandfathering," people kind of throw that term around a lot;
however, grandfathering means that it was built as permitted back in
the day. So it was legal at one point, and then a code changed which
made it not legal anymore. But they had a term for that; legal
nonconforming.
Because these structures were never permitted when they were
built, they're not grandfathered in. They needed a permit back then,
and they need a permit now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I understand.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: So they're -- I'm sorry.
MS. CURLEY: That makes sense.
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MS. BRAUGHMAN: The two trailers were put in maybe after
'86, but the rest of the small buildings were there for years. I don't
know how long.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'm -- Joe, can you answer that? I'm just
going by what information I'm given here.
MS. CURLEY: Do we have any pictures of this?
MR. MUCHA: I have to look at the case notes really quick.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: While he's looking, Jeff, I think,
unless I misunderstand you, in a case like that, if those trailers were
removed from the property and two new trailers came onto the
property, they would not be permitted. It's just -- grandfathered to me
means the ones that were there might have been had they been
permitted.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Correct. If it was legal back when they
were put in and an ordinance changed that makes them somehow
illegal, they're still legal nonconforming because they were legal at the
time they were put in.
I've got to say that permits were required all the way back to the
'60s. So unless they were built before the '60s, you know, then -- then
they're still going to be required to have a permit.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's like when you build a house, the code
changes. If you come back to modify the house, they're not going to
ask you to fix the code.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Exactly; unless it's over 50 percent.
MR. LEFEBVRE: As long as you got it permitted.
MS. CURLEY: So to the mobile homes, ma'am, do you have the
titles to them?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CURLEY: Are they from the '60s?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: No.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. Just checking.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Joe?
MR. MUCHA: I have an aerial from 1995. I mean, I don't know
if we want to get into the case.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You know, we're not here to hear the
case.
MR. MUCHA: It doesn't show any of the -- it just shows, really,
the main residence from the '95 aerial. So all this stuff --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Basically you have a stipulation --
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Because of the woods, you can't see.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- that the respondent has agreed to,
so -- and what needs to be done is listed in the stipulation. Do you
have a problem performing that, or can you make -- can you --
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Money-wise, but I'll try my best.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, the problem is that the
line up there that says -- 180 days, that will give you six months, and
then there's a $250-a-day-fine after that six months. So let me suggest
--
MS. BRAUGHMAN: I see that. I live off $700 a month.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me suggest that if you cannot do
that, don't wait for six months to come back to the Board. Come back
sooner and request more time or whatever you need to do. Okay?
MS. CURLEY: So I think the good thing is that you have options
of removing them.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: All right. The thing is, these two trailers
were put in after those other trailers were there; the new ones were put
in.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: They do have permits, but I don't know
about the other old ones.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You understand the
stipulation that you agreed to?
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MS. BRAUGHMAN: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. MUCHA: And we definitely understand her financial
predicament, and we'll keep in touch with her. And when it gets close
to that time, you know, we'll kind of see where she's at, and we can ask
for more time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Great. Okay. Do we have
any motion from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept the stipulation as written.
MS. ELROD: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay.
MR. MUCHA: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They'll talk to you out in the hall as
far as what you need to provide.
Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. The next case that we have someone
present is from Old Business, Letter A, Motion for Imposition of
Fines/Liens. It's Item 6A2, Case CEPM20160004343, Union Road,
LLC.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
microphone, for the record.
MR. TATEO: Paul Tateo here on behalf of Union Road, LLC.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You're a principal or --
MR. TATEO: Yes. One of my companies is a principal in that
company.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. As I am reading, this goes
back to June 2016.
MR. TATEO: It's ancient.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you want to do the presentation,
Joe?
MR. MUCHA: Yes, sir. For the record, Joe Mucha, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
This is dealing with violation of Collier County Code of Laws
and Ordinances, Chapter 22, Article VI, Sections 22-231(12)(b),
22-231(12)(i) and 22-231(12)(c).
Location: 12400 Union Road; Folio No. 01058920513.
Description is a roof in disrepair, windows and doors missing
and/or broken, and exterior walls in disrepair.
Past orders: On June 23rd, 2016, the Code Enforcement Board
issued a findings of fact, conclusion of law and order. Respondent was
found in violation of the referenced ordinances and ordered to correct
the violation. See the attached order of the board, OR5290, Page 3461,
for more information.
On August 26th, 2016, the Code Enforcement Board imposed the
fine and granted an extension of time. See the attached order of the
board, OR5311, Page 1588, for more information.
The violation has not been abated as of November 17th, 2017.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at a
rate of $150 per day for the period from February 23rd, 2017, to
November 17, 2017, 268 days, for a total fine amount of $40,200.
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Fines continue to accrue.
Previously assessed operational costs and fines assessed of
$2,067.11 have been paid. Operational costs for today's hearing,
$59.63.
Total amount: $40,259.63.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. The $2,067.11, was that paid
to secure the building? It's just a strange thing to --
MR. MUCHA: I think it was --
MR. TATEO: It was not.
MR. MUCHA: -- a civil fine.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Okay. Sir?
MR. TATEO: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You're here to request something?
MR. TATEO: I'm here to just go over a couple of details.
Union Road bought this property after the original citation. He
had bought it in mid August of 2'16, and that fine, the $2,000 fine
you're referring to, was paid at the closing of purchase by Union Road,
LLC.
This fine and the issue related to this property -- this is a 1966
structure that was related to one of the two Port of the Island hotels.
My client bought just the structure, not the main hotel which the
county since gated or put fencing around. But, in any case, my client
bought this property in August of 2'16. I'm now a part of that client.
I'm unaware if there were any stipulated settlements. We were aware
that there was a code citation.
Union Road bought -- applied for a notice of commencement or
had a contractor start boarding this property in October of 2'16 in order
to address the code issues. The property was boarded as far as all of
the openings; however, we took a couple of months to get that
boarding permit, which we did in October, because we were trying to
decide whether we should just tear this down and start fresh with this
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three-acre parcel building or not. We decided we'd rather do the
restoration.
We had a pre-application meeting with the county and our civil
engineer, Robau & Associates, prior to November 30th, because our
intentions were to go get the civil, get the architectural plans done,
submit for permits, and do renovations.
We had hoped to have those plans done by the first quarter of
2017 and submit. We applied for a demo permit in early 2017 as part
of the restoration effort, and during that demo permit, we removed the
boarding from the windows, we took all the cornices and the decrepit
roof pieces, other than the roof deck itself, off of the building, took out
all the windows on the building, took the doors off of the building. So
what you have today is just an open-air shell.
The walls are up. The floor slab's up. The roof deck's up.
There's nothing else in that building anymore. There's no walls.
There's no bathrooms. There's no wiring. There's no plumbing.
Anyway, all that was preparation for the restoration.
The shell remains. We took care of what -- at least from our
perspective, removed some of what the original concerns were in the
original citation, which were dangerous and damaged things. The
building is still there. It's still open.
In any case, the civil engineer submitted -- we finished the civil
and architectural plans in the first quarter of -- excuse me -- early
second quarter of 2017. The civil submitted their plans on the 5th July
in the county.
As of November 17th, the plans have not been approved. The
Greater Naples Fire Department and the Community Improvement
District for Port of the Islands are still arguing for the last four months
about what our source of water will be for the fire sprinkler system
inside the building. Community Improvement District insists that we
use recycled, and Greater Naples Fire Department insists that we use
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potable water.
So we're unable to move forward on the completion of the work
we want to do until that's resolved. It's really secondary to the code
thing, but I want you to understand it's not that we don't intend to finish
the project and that we're ignoring it. We're a little frustrated on that
part of it.
The property is open, so it's not boarded currently. We think it's a
safer situation than it previously was. If the Code Enforcement Board
feels that we should -- fines aside, if we should re-board the windows
and the openings, we'll be happy to do that until we get the permits on
hand.
But we pulled them off thinking we'd have permits for building,
civil site approval, and be able to do the restoration work much sooner
than we have.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You know, I remember this case
from way back when --
MR. TATEO: It's an ancient one.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- where this property was purchased
by, I think it was, two realtors who were going to do some work on it.
They had a problem with parties being held in the location, with the
pool being a problem there, which I think that was --
MR. TATEO: Robert, may I add something?
MS. NICOLA: I think this is a different house. I think this is the
one that was the building next to the party house.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Next to the one.
MR. TATEO: This is an important distinction because there were
two -- I don't know if they were real estate guys or --
MS. NICOLA: Yeah.
MR. TATEO: -- they're definitely investors that buy regularly.
They bought these properties at an auction, and it included the old Port
of the Island motel and the one that's subject to today's hearing, which
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was a dormitory building with 32 hotel rooms in it, which is what
Union Road -- what we subsequently bought.
The two speculators sold us the little dorm building. We paid
them for that. That's what paid -- resulted in the $2,000-odd fine being
paid at our closing; however, the main hotel building, they couldn't flip
that to anybody. They couldn't get relief from the Community
Improvement District for the fines, so they theft it alone. The county
now owns it. You've put a fence around it, okay. But we're not related
to that project.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. What I recall on this
particular building is that the person who was boarding it up had
offered to buy it. That was part of the case that we heard at that time.
MR. TATEO: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: He offered to buy it. I remember
there were fines imposed, then he backed out, the contractor. I don't
know if you're that contractor or --
MR. TATEO: There may have been another party prior to us.
We did close on it and did, within 60 days of closing, board it up.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. The people -- so it was not
boarded when you got it?
MR. TATEO: Uh-uh; was not.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, obviously we're not
here to rehear the case.
MR. TATEO: No. You're not here to rehear the case. You've
basically got a fine thing and situation. I want -- my client -- Union
Road, us, now, has invested over $86,000 in the civil, the demo, the
architectural plans, and related items, so -- and besides the purchase
price. That's independent of that. Our intention is to go finish that
project. We just may not -- we're not going to be able to get it done till
we get permits.
But if you need to impose fines, we'll be back to you for some
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relief at some date when we get the project done.
MS. CURLEY: I just have a comment. I find it frustrating as a
citizen of Collier County that the fire districts are -- can't find a
solution for your water. That's --
MR. TATEO: It's not that they --
MS. CURLEY: I'm glad you shared that with me, but I just want
you to know that that pains me to know that that's been a pending
issue.
MR. TATEO: I don't really know who to point the fingers at,
frankly.
MS. CURLEY: Someone --
MR. TATEO: But the community district has --
THE COURT REPORTER: I can only get one at a time.
MR. TATEO: Sorry.
MS. CURLEY: Anyways, I just wanted to make that comment,
because if he could go drill his own well to move past this, and with
this permit, I'm sure he would do that. So that's an understandable
delay. We don't like delays here, and I understand that.
But I do remember one thing I wanted to add is that this is very
close to a residential neighborhood, so somebody's looking at this
skeleton building which was peeled apart since January; so almost a
year. So just imagine looking out your lanai and seeing this from the
nice neighborhoods, Flamingo Estates or whatever it's called out there.
This is not desolate in the middle of nowhere?
MR. TATEO: May I speak for a second?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sure.
MR. TATEO: Susan, with regard to the proximity of the
neighborhoods, the nearest condominiums to this is a project called
Orchid Isle, and it is probably, from this building, approximately 250
to 300 yards. In between this building and Orchid Isle is the old hotel
that's fenced up and derelict. That, they surely see. I'm not sure that
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they actually see this. This is on the way out to the shooting range and
the community district's water and sewer treatment area.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me get us back on track.
MR. TATEO: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The issue that you have with water
or building --
MR. TATEO: That's just part of the delay; secondary.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- is something that you would need
to work out either with an attorney or with the county commissioners
or -- I don't even know if they have jurisdiction over the fire people,
but we certainly don't, so let me put that aside.
If I were in your shoes, I would probably be asking for some
additional time to resolve the situation that's out there.
Go ahead, Gerald.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I have a couple questions.
First of all, is there any way to erect a fence on this property that
would -- first of all, you're going to have a construction site, so you're
going to want to secure it ahead of --
MR. TATEO: We're happy to do what needs to be done.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So that's number one. That would resolve -- it
won't take care of the blight, but it will take care of anyone getting into
the property. And any idea on when this issue is going to be resolved
between the improvement district, I think you said, and the fire --
MR. TATEO: Right. It's Port of Isles Community Improvement
District and the Greater Naples Fire Department. We're trying to
schedule a hearing. The attorney for the Community Improvement
District has, just as of November 7th, I believe, or 8th, had a letter to us
that said, okay, look, now, if you guys want to use potable water out
there, you can do it, but you're going to have to install new pumps, new
this, this, this. That's probably another 30- to $40,000. For a 16-unit
project, that's not really the right -- we don't think it's the right solution
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anyway.
My point is we want resolution. We've ask the civil to organize a
meeting between the fire district, the Community Improvement
District, and get some resolution.
MS. CURLEY: So I will say -- excuse me. If you have a permit
that's not approved yet, he would have to amend that permit for his
construction fence. So I don't know that -- it would be nice if we could
ask him to do that --
MR. TATEO: I think -- we haven't applied for actual
construction permits until we got the civil issue resolved, so there's --
the architectural plans have been done since April. Anyway, we'll be
happy to put a fence up.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me go back to what we have in
front of us. We have -- this is an imposition of fines. We're not here to
rehear the case. We can grant a continuance on this; we could impose
the fines. Those are the things that we can do at this stage.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Or an extension.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Or the county can pull this and bring
it back at another time. Those are some of the options that are in front
of us right now. What's the best option going forward?
MR. LEFEBVRE: I still have another question. If a permit is
pulled, they're still in violation, correct? So until they get a CO and
everything's fixed, they're still going to be in violation?
MR. MUCHA: Yes, sir.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. So if we put this six months down the
road, maybe we can do -- my suggestion may be extension of time,
fines keep on accruing, and with an update maybe three months down
the road to see where they're at. I'd like to see how -- how long do you
think it will take for construction?
MR. TATEO: If you asked me that before the hurricane, I would
have told you this is probably a four- to five-month project.
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MS. CURLEY: Now it's a year and a half.
MR. TATEO: I'm not sure what it is now just because of the
labor demands and stuff.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right.
MS. CURLEY: So is there any sheriff activity out there after the
county took over that hotel, or has that been shut down? I mean, is this
place -- is this section of town still on the party house website where
all the kids go and have raves and things, or is that discontinued?
MR. MUCHA: No, I know they're very active with the hotel. I
haven't heard anything about this particular building. I know the
hotel's been a problem still.
MS. CURLEY: Still?
MR. TATEO: I'm not sure -- well -- how they're getting in.
We're -- your point is that you all have a code hearing and you need to
take one of your appropriate situations.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Those are the actions we can take,
so...
MR. TATEO: With regard to the petitioner, we'll stand by your
decisions.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So if we were to -- a suggestion --
grant a 180-day continuance, and during that period of time we would
expect to see some progress on something, whether you resolve the
issue you have with the water or whatever, and prior to the 180 days, if
you came back and said, this is what we've done, this is where we're at,
and we need more time to complete the project, the Board has always
looked favorably at that, and I'm sure we would again. We don't want
a blight out there.
MR. TATEO: Neither do we.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we don't want the county to
incur the cost of taking over additional property that they have to
maintain, et cetera, like they did with the hotel. So having said all that
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--
MR. LEFEBVRE: I think the option of imposing the fine should
be taken off the table. You have acted in good faith to try to get this
project moving forward. It isn't simply just a house, a single-family
house. So I think the option of imposing the fines will negatively
impact you, and you wouldn't come in front of us at that point. You
would go in front of the Commission.
MR. TATEO: The full Board.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right, the Board of County Commissioners.
So I think it should be kept within this board here. So a continuance,
the fines will still --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Uh-huh.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. I make a motion that we continue this
case for 180 days and in 90 days you come back with an update.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do we have a second?
MR. DOINO: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a second.
Any other questions on the motion?
MR. ASHTON: I have a question. When you purchased -- I'm
looking --
MR. TATEO: Yes, Robert.
MR. ASHTON: You paid the fine of 2,000-some-odd dollars, did
you know that this other fine was sitting on there?
MR. TATEO: We knew that the fine was accruing, but I didn't
handle that part of it. All I know is that the attorneys on the closing
told us that the only fine that was on the property was the $2,000.
MS. CURLEY: Was that Mr. Shapiro?
MR. TATEO: Pardon me?
MS. CURLEY: Was that Mr. Shapiro?
MR. TATEO: Mr. Shapiro was the buyer, the original buyer
from the auction, or representing the original -- I don't know that he
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was the buyer. He was or was involved with, as a representative, for
the people purchasing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think that's all beside the point. We
have a motion and a second to grant a 180-day continuance. Any other
comments on the motion.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
So you have six months. Prior to the six months, in 90 days come
back and say, we resolved our water problem, we didn't, or whatever it
is.
MR. TATEO: As a quick item. What's the process? Do I need
to come and ask for a hearing in 90 days?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You talk to Joe after --
MR. TATEO: Okay. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- and he'll get you the --
MR. TATEO: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- best advice.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Put it on the agenda.
MS. NICOLA: This isn't something that's going to need to be in
the order, right? You guys are just going to re-notice it for them to
come in 90 days? I want to make sure that I draft the continuance
motion properly. It's just going to say continued for 90 days but
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without -- I'm sorry -- continued for 180 days but nothing in the order
about the 90 days?
MS. ADAMS: No. After 90 days they'll put it on the agenda
under reports.
MS. NICOLA: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. How are your fingers?
THE COURT REPORTER: Good.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you for asking.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. The next case that we have someone
present is going to be Item 6A3. It's Case CELU20170004265, 11222
Tamiami, LLC.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could you state your name
on the microphone.
MR. PURCIELLO: Yes. My name's Stephen Purciello. I'm the
Agent for the owner of the property.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you have the owner's
permission to represent him?
MR. PURCIELLO: Yes, I do. I submitted an email to John
before about it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Okay. So before you read
this into the record, Joe, you are obviously here to request something?
MR. PURCIELLO: Yes, I guess, respond to what our plan is to
move forward to resolve this, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't you tell us now, and then
--
MR. PURCIELLO: Okay. The issue with this, that there's been a
container, you know, improperly on the property, resulted from -- we
applied for a building permit for fire sprinklers. There's been a lot of
delays with the Site Development Plan.
We've been working with an engineering firm, with the fire
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sprinkler company. There's been a lot of unexpected delays. So we
finally had to redraw a complete survey, which I have with me today,
that they're now going to resubmit the sprinkler permit, and the -- I
think they call it an insubstantial change to the SDP, I think, has been
the issue.
So kind of, preemptively, when they delivered the sprinkler pipe
thinking that was moving forward when they first applied for the
permit, there was a container placed on the lot next door to the
property, which the owner owns that, thinking it would only be there
for a couple weeks.
And then as things got delayed, because of the wait, we weren't
able to move the container. So it looks like there's still going to be
more time to get the permit, so the resolution is -- I have a letter from
McDaniel Fire Protection. They're going to move the pipe into the
building, and we can move the container, and that's within the next two
weeks, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Within the next two weeks?
MR. PURCIELLO: Yes, sir. I have a letter signed by McDaniel
that they'll do it. And they won't let the owner or anybody else move
the pipe because of possible damage. So they need to do it themselves,
you know, inventory everything and move it in, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Wait. This violation was the
container. There's no mention of a pipe.
MR. MUCHA: It's just strictly about the storage container.
MR. LEFEBVRE: The pipe's in the --
MR. PURCIELLO: Yeah. The sprinkler pipe is in it. That's the
reason for the container, to protect the pipe.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Yeah, the container.
MS. CURLEY: Got it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If you think you can get this done in
two weeks, I have no problem postponing this, or you can pull it and
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bring it back, whatever -- in January.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay. Yeah, that sounds good. The
county will withdraw it until January. Kerry will send you out another
notice.
MR. PURCIELLO: Appreciate it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: You know that the fines are continuing to
run at this point, though?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
MR. PURCIELLO: Yeah, understood.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. You're going to have to come
back one way or the other. Even though -- if you resolve this in two
weeks --
MR. PURCIELLO: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- the fines are still there. By the
way, when you do resolve it, let Code Enforcement know so they can
come out, inspect it, and then the verbiage on this would say the
violation has been abated --
MR. PURCIELLO: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- et cetera. And then you can come
back in front of the Board and say, we took care of it. Can you do
anything with the fines, or whatever you propose to say.
Okay. Joe?
MR. MUCHA: Just one quick thing. The operational costs have
not been paid, though, from before.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Ah.
MR. MUCHA: If we can get those paid. It's $66.69.
MR. PURCIELLO: I'll make sure they take care of it. I'll request
it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: When?
MR. PURCIELLO: I'll call them right now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You can hold this in -- well,
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if you don't get it by next week --
MR. LEFEBVRE: The county withdrew it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. PURCIELLO: And can he pay that online? Because he's out
of state.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Talk to Joe. He'll fill you in on how
it can be paid. Probably a credit card or whatever.
All right. Thank you.
MR. PURCIELLO: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. The next case that we have someone
present is Item 6A5, Case CESD20160011175, Maria O. Jimenez. It
will be just a second. Joe needs to get his paperwork.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Your fingers are still okay?
THE COURT REPORTER: Yes.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
microphone, and bring it down a little. You can move it. There you
go.
MS. JIMENEZ: My name is Maria Jimenez, sorry. Maria
Jimenez.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And you're here -- let me ask
you first. You're here to request something?
MS. JIMENEZ: Because I had the matter in the past, and I
couldn't be done with my matter with construction on time because --
and then I received the letter to be down here again. Yes, I want to
request more time for my -- to be done with my construction.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. As far as I can read, you had
a lanai that was converted to living space.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is somebody living in there?
MS. JIMENEZ: No.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And this was, almost to the day, a
year ago.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What's happened in the past year?
MS. JIMENEZ: We were -- I was waiting for the plans, for the
permit, because we -- they submit the plans, and they reject it. Sorry
for my English. And after that, now they have the second review, and
they submit the plans again on August 14, 2017, and now I'm waiting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So we don't have any permits either?
MR. MUCHA: There was a couple permits that were applied for.
One's voided out, and one's expired at this point.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And the last permits that
were applied for were in August?
MR. MUCHA: I believe so.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes, I have everything here.
MS. CURLEY: And you're saying that's expired, Joe?
MR. MUCHA: The last one is expired at this time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The one that was applied for in
August?
MR. MUCHA: Yes, sir.
MR. LEFEBVRE: How could that be expired if they just --
MR. MUCHA: Because I think it was -- let me grab my
computer real quick.
MS. CURLEY: It was rejected.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It was rejected?
MS. CURLEY: Yeah, probably. And it's for 90 days, and then it
expires.
MR. LETOURNEAU: For the record, Jeff Letourneau, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
I've got a permit that was applied for --
MR. MUCHA: It was actually applied for April.
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MR. LETOURNEAU: Applied for in April. It's been -- it's in
reject status, so --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Doesn't exist.
MR. LETOURNEAU: So it probably needs some updates to the
Building Department in order for it to get pushed through and issued.
Did you get a rejection letter?
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay.
MS. JIMENEZ: I don't have it here, but I know that they reject it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay.
MS. CURLEY: So what did you do in August? You said you put
another permit in in August. I'm confused by what you said.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes. In August 14, 2017, they submit the permit
again, the plans.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Who is "they"?
MS. JIMENEZ: The Sarmiento Company.
MS. CURLEY: So we're not seeing that, right, guys?
MR. MUCHA: So what I'm seeing here is the corrections were
submitted in August and rejected again, and nothing's been submitted
since.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So from what I understand --
I'll just summarize it -- you applied for permits; they were rejected.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They updated them or whatever and
resubmitted them in August.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And they were rejected again.
MS. JIMENEZ: I didn't know that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So what are you waiting for now if
those were rejected?
MS. CURLEY: One question. Is this an owner/builder, or she
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has a contractor helping her? Because it seems like she is speaking on
behalf of the contractor, and he's not telling her the right thing maybe.
MR. MUCHA: Let me double-check this.
MR. LETOURNEAU: It's an owner/builder.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. So who submitted those? You?
MS. JIMENEZ: No, no, no.
MS. CURLEY: But you're the owner?
MS. JIMENEZ: I'm the owner, but someone is doing this one for
me; Sarmiento's Company.
MR. MUCHA: Is that Octavio?
MS. JIMENEZ: In Naples.
MR. MUCHA: Octavio?
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
MR. MUCHA: Octavio. He does a lot of them, helps.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. He's a licensed contractor?
MR. MUCHA: Yes, sir.
MS. CURLEY: But it's still her responsibility as the
owner/builder.
MR. MUCHA: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So now in August --
September, October, November -- three months ago, you had put in,
and they were rejected, and you are waiting now for what?
MS. JIMENEZ: No. What I know is that in -- they submit it, and
they are waiting for the building office, a official.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me stop you there and --
just so I can keep everything in order.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And, Joe, so you're saying that it was
rejected in August?
MR. MUCHA: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So waiting for something is not
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going to happen?
MR. MUCHA: No. The ball's in her court now.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I've got why it was rejected here. They
needed an elevation certificate for the existing building, and the
finished floor elevation on plans does not match the finish floor
elevation on the submitted elevation certificate. So they need to fix
those two items.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you understand?
MS. JIMENEZ: My understanding is that when they submit the
plans the first time, they rejected it, and they were asking for that many
papers, you know. And after that, they submit again, the second time,
in August 14, 2017, and they now are waiting for the building official,
is my understanding.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And what they're saying is
that it was submitted in August and rejected for those reasons. So if
you're waiting for something, you're going to have a long wait.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Let me clarify. It was submitted in April;
it was rejected in April. They resubmitted, and it was re-rejected in
August.
MS. CURLEY: Excuse me, Jeff, and Chair.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Sorry.
MS. CURLEY: Danny, I think that we're having a
communication issue. Would you mind -- can we assist her with --
MR. LETOURNEAU: No. We --
MR. BLANCO: I'm not allowed to translate.
MS. CURLEY: We stated it three or four times.
MR. LETOURNEAU: No. We can't -- we can't assist her with a
code enforcement employee; I'm sorry.
MS. JIMENEZ: I'm sorry.
MR. CURLEY: Can we get an interpreter?
MS. JIMENEZ: I think -- I think -- I understand everything, but I
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think I'm a little lost with the Sarmiento Company then. I understand
what he's telling me that in August they rejected the plans again.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Correct.
MS. JIMENEZ: I understand perfect.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. JIMENEZ: But the problem is that he told me that it was
submitted, and they didn't tell me that it was rejected in August.
MS. CURLEY: But it is your job as the owner on this permit to
manage that timeline. That's your job.
MS. JIMENEZ: Yes.
MR. MUCHA: I can reach out to Octavio myself and see if he
can help her out.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you want to delay this?
Do you want to --
MS. JIMENEZ: Let me ask something.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sure.
MS. JIMENEZ: Can I have a permit, a little more time, to deal
with this problem?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, the problem that we have in
front of us is that nothing is happening right now. You don't have a
permit, and you can't wait for something that's been rejected. They're
not going to issue a permit until it's been -- the information has been
provided to the county.
So what Mr. Mucha said is, what you're being told by Octavio
may not be accurate, so he will reach out to Octavio and find out
what's going on, and we can reschedule this hearing for a later date.
MS. JIMENEZ: Okay. I understand.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay. For the record, once again, Jeff
Letourneau.
We will withdraw this case until the January hearing, but I will
say that if nothing's done by then, we won't withdraw it again. It will
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be up to the Board to make a decision.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's correct.
MS. CURLEY: Well, and also -- I mean, the stipulation
agreement that was signed last year gave her four months. I'm looking
at a stipulation agreement that was signed November 18th, 2016,
where she agreed to 120 days to manage all this.
Well, she didn't come back 120 days later. She's come back 300
days later and asking for more relief, right?
MR. LETOURNEAU: The county will withdraw it until January.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Case closed.
Okay. So Mr. Mucha can speak to you out in the hall and relay
what we just decided or what the county decided, and we can go from
there. I don't disagree with you.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Joe has the next case also, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We can take a couple
minutes.
MS. JIMENEZ: Okay. Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Chairman, did you want to take a break then?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. Let's take five minutes. Let's
see. It's 17, that would make it 22. Let's make it 25.
(A brief recess was had.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Jeff, back to your seat.
I'd like to call the Code Enforcement Board back to order.
MS. ADAMS: The next case will be Item 6A7. Case
CESD20160016422, Farman Ullah.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could you state your name
on the microphone.
MS. ULLAH: Sieda (phonetic) Ullah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And you are here to say
something, I'm sure. That's why you're standing there, so...
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MS. ULLAH: I'm here to speak on behalf of my mom, Farman
Ullah. And she just needs extended time for this, because we just got
this property as part of a divorce settlement. And I didn't know this
was going on or anything. So we'll get permits, whatever that's
needed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me just take a look
through here a little bit.
MS. CURLEY: When did the property transfer?
MS. ULLAH: Probably, like, a week ago.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. So we -- we see the case was in
N-a-j-e-e-b. Was that her ex-husband's first name?
MS. ULLAH: Uh-huh, yes.
MS. CURLEY: And that was in 2016. We don't even have the
new deed, do we?
MS. ADAMS: It's your packet. It's in the Board's packet. It was
recorded September 1st.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This one goes back to June.
Code board issued a finding of fact, violation of the ordinance.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. So who is Lorena Martinez?
MS. ULLAH: That's one of the persons that they hired to put it
together.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: To put what together?
MS. ULLAH: The deed, the Quit Claim Deed together.
MS. CURLEY: It's recorded, but it's never going to show up.
There's mistakes in it. So that's going to be bothersome to her.
MS. NICOLA: I was actually thinking the same thing on this.
MS. CURLEY: The deed's got a lot of mistakes on it, so it should
have a --
MS. ULLAH: Well, this was quickly, for her to be on the
property, but there's a --
MS. CURLEY: But when there's a -- if she has to go file permits
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and stuff, this is not going to work for her. Just --
MS. ULLAH: That's fine. I'll get in touch with the lawyer and
take care of all that.
MS. CURLEY: Because this person, Lorena Martinez, is not an
attorney.
MS. ULLAH: No. They hired somebody. I have no idea who,
but yeah.
MS. CURLEY: She's not allowed to prepare that form; Lorena.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Was the remodeling on this strictly
Sheetrock, or is this --
MR. MUCHA: Yeah, removing drywall and insulation, yes, sir.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. Was it, like, repair to stuff that was wet,
or was it maintenance and repairs?
MR. MUCHA: I think it was, like, a whole interior remodel. I
don't think it was to do with -- because of damage or anything.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You mean to include electric and
plumbing and --
MR. MUCHA: It doesn't mention in the permit anything about
electric or plumbing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. ULLAH: To my understanding when I called -- I don't
know. Where they give you permits, they said there was some kind of
issue with the mold or something like that. So I don't even know how
much work was done there. So I have to know what kind of permits to
get and stuff. That's why I'm asking for more time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Have the operational costs been paid?
MR. MUCHA: They've not been paid.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well...
MS. CURLEY: So this is going to be a learning experience for
you. You're very nice to help out your mom, but it's going to take
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some time. So if you ask for an extension of time, we need to at least
prepare her --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We won't recognize anything unless
the operational costs are paid. You understand -- the operational costs
on this are -- we have computers. It used to be easier.
MR. MUCHA: $65.36.
MS. CURLEY: It would really be better if we didn't recognize
her as the owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. The previous operational
costs are $65.36. The operational cost for today is 59.42.
MS. CURLEY: I mean --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: When there is no -- when the
operational costs are not paid, then we don't do anything with the case
other than impose the fine.
MS. CURLEY: So let me ask you, is your mom living there?
MS. ULLAH: No. It's a rental property.
MS. CURLEY: Oh.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Are you willing to pay the previous
operational costs of 65.36 and the operational costs for today, 59.42?
Today?
MS. ULLAH: Thirty-five hundred and --
MR. LEFEBVRE: No, no, no.
MS. CURLEY: $65 and $59.
MS. NICOLA: $120, something like that.
MS. ULLAH: Yeah, that's fine.
MS. CURLEY: So does your mom understand that when she got
this property she owes $26,000 in fines on it?
MS. ULLAH: She got it as part of a divorce settlement. So we
have no idea what's attached to it, so...
MS. CURLEY: So she got a debt?
MS. ULLAH: Yes. There's a lot of things we have to figure out.
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If this is $100,000, I'll pay it.
MS. NICOLA: My guess is you guys could look at the financial
affidavits that were filed in the divorce to see whether the husband
disclosed the existence of the fines. And my guess is -- and I hate to
guess -- it's probably not on there.
MS. ULLAH: No. He left the country, so there's no -- none of
that.
MS. NICOLA: There you go.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So what you need to do --
MS. CURLEY: I wouldn't have taken it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- in my estimation, is to pay the
operational costs, and then what we would need to do was to give you
an extension of time. I do not recall this case back in August. Was
this a stip?
MS. CURLEY: I do. Who was here in August? You weren't.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I was, obviously.
MR. CURLEY: Who spoke on behalf of your mom?
MS. ULLAH: My mom wasn't the owner at the time.
MR. LEFEBVRE: She wasn't the owner.
MR. ASHTON: She wasn't the owner.
MS. NICOLA: Actually, in looking at the order, nobody
appeared at that hearing, so we entered the order without anyone
present.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Why would someone be here when a month
later it was going to be transferred?
MS. NICOLA: Right.
MR. LEFEBVRE: No reason to be here.
MS. NICOLA: In all honesty, everybody, I see a bigger problem
with this deed. The deed says Clay County on it. And they're going to
have some trouble with this Quit Claim Deed.
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MS. CURLEY: Well, technically, she doesn't really own the
property. I mean, you might recognize it because there's something
filed, but the tax assessor's not going to put -- no way. It doesn't even
list the county on the deed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So where we are right now is --
MS. CURLEY: It says Naples, Florida.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If you are willing to pay the
operational costs, and that's about $120, I would certainly recognize a
motion from the Board to grant an extension of some time. The place
is unoccupied right now?
MS. ULLAH: There's a tenant in there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Oh, there is a tenant in there.
MS. CURLEY: Who's collecting the rent?
MS. ULLAH: Right now my mom is.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's the good news.
MS. ULLAH: Yep.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So are you willing to pay the
operational costs today?
MS. ULLAH: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So let's just assume that you
have just paid it. And are there any comments or motions from the
Board?
MS. CURLEY: I'm speechless.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, let me -- I'll make a
motion, and I'll make the motion because -- for two reasons: Number
one, I think the fines of $26,000 for Sheetrock appears to be maybe a
little bit high, but I would like to give the respondent and her mother
time to resolve all of this. You're probably going to have to get an
attorney or at least a title company to resolve the situation.
Our next meeting isn't until January, but I would go even farther
than that. Let's see. So our meeting in March --
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MS. NICOLA: That would be 120 days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
MS. CURLEY: Well --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: But I would expect that in March
you'd come back here -- and you'd have to come back because the fines
are still accruing -- and say this is what the situation is. The title has
been cleared up, and it's in your mother's possession and all of that
stuff. And then you could, at that time, request the fines to be abated
or to be reduced, et cetera. That would be, to my way of thinking, the
best way we can go.
So my motion is to grant a continuance for 120 days. Fines
continue to accrue.
MR. DOINO: Yeah. I would second that.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'd like to say something. For the record,
Jeff Letourneau, Collier County Code Enforcement. We -- this case is
in regards to a lack of a demolition permit to remove the drywall and
whatever. I'm looking at the pictures. Is everything back up now? I
mean, is the mouse normal, or is it --
MS. ULLAH: The house is perfectly normal.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay. The problem's going to be, on top
of everything else, they're going to have the get the demolition permit,
county inspector's going to go in there, and he's going to see everything
put up there, which would have required a building permit on top of
everything. So they're going to run into that issue. That's going to --
that's going to even be worse than what we're looking at before.
So you're asking for -- the county wouldn't be objecting to an
extension at this point just because they got this, you know, property --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: An extension rather than a
continuance?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Continuance. I mean --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I mean, at that fine right there --
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MR. LETOURNEAU: Because, I mean, they took on this burden
probably unknowingly and, you know, to the county's opinion it's
probably unfair to keep fining them.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me -- to my way of thinking, an
extension erases the fine completely.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Which -- are you guys against that?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd like to hear what the Board has to
say.
MS. CURLEY: Well, you have to be mindful that then you're
erasing it to the ex-husband, because he still technically owns it. He's
going to have to come back to the United States or have a notary
re-execute documents. So if he's not available, then this is never going
to move forward. You said he left the country. If he's not available at
all and unwilling to sign any real documents, then this is dead right
here in the water.
MS. NICOLA: Well, no. She'd have to do a quiet title action,
which is an expensive undertaking to hire an attorney to actually go
into court and ask the Court to correct what was done improperly.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah. Takes a half a year.
MS. NICOLA: I just filed one of those, and it takes --
MR. LETOURNEAU: I would just hate to see them penalized
for something that they got stuck with here.
MS. CURLEY: But she has to -- I mean, you're right, but legally
she doesn't own it even though it's in her name.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Understand. Gerald, do you have a
comment? Bob?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, it looks like you're in school. College,
correct?
MS. ULLAH: I already graduated.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Graduated. I was going to say, if you're still
in school, you're going to have some homework to do over your break.
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I think four months is reasonable to come back in front of us and
see what progress they made. They're probably going to have to go and
get an after-the-fact permit and anything, so hire an architect. So I
think four months is enough, and then --
MS. ELROD: Show movement.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Exactly. Thank you. Yes. So I guess I
second that motion.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. So I have a -- because we want to be
helpful, so the upfront costs to doing all that are substantial to doing all
this. Is this -- do you want to -- we don't want to continue something
that's going to be a financial burden.
MR. LEFEBVRE: This is a rental. They're making money on it.
It's an investment.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me --
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's not like they're living there, so -- it's
providing income.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We could do an extension, which
would erase the fine right now.
MR. LEFEBVRE: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me continue. We could do a
continuance, which means the fine would continue to accrue, and then
when the respondent comes back, we have the ability to either
completely abate or partially abate the fine.
So we don't gain anything by doing it today. But I'm sure that the
Board would be certainly willing to give every opportunity to reduce
the fine or abate it completely. So --
MS. CURLEY: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So that was -- the motion I had made
is for a continuance.
MS. CURLEY: So just one more question to the motion. So the
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pictures you have show it completely torn apart, but that didn't
discontinue the construction. It kept on, and now it's occupied, and it's
a residential house?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. The last time we were in there was
the beginning of the case, and it's totally stripped down inside. So
from what she's saying, they didn't get the demo permit for that, and
they just went ahead and remodeled the whole thing. So they're going
to have to go -- being that it's a rental property, they're going to have to
get a contractor because they can't do an owner/builder, and they're
going to have to somehow put together a package where they got the
demo and the new permit put together right there.
MS. CURLEY: So they ignored -- there was a stop order that
was ignored.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. Everything was ignored, yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: But that was under her ex-husband.
MS. CURLEY: She was married to him at the time, so it's okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So we have a motion and a
second. All those in favor?
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So it carries 5-1.
So you have -- A, pay the fine today, and you have 120 days to
get the ball rolling on resolving the situation. And I'm sure Mr. Mucha
will be glad to help you out telling you what you need to do. It's not
impossible. It takes time. If you need more time, come back to the
Board. We have no problem granting time as long as you can show
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that you're doing something, making progress. So are we all in
agreement?
MS. CURLEY: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We're -- almost all of us in
agreement? Yes. Okay. Thank you.
MS. ULLAH: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is Item 6A8, Case
CESD20160007819, Manfred S. Dunker.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this Joe's case also?
MS. ADAMS: No. Jeff will be doing it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Oh. You don't want to work Joe too
hard.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could you state your name
on the microphone for us.
MR. DUNKER: My name is Manfred Dunker.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You may want to put it up. You're
taller than -- okay. There you go. Very good.
MR. DUNKER: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You're here, obviously, to request
something, so why don't we turn it over to you right now.
MR. DUNKER: Well, I have to apologize to the Board. I was
here in January, and I promised to get the ball rolling and get in line
with the proper inspections for the modification of a bathroom that I
have done. And I had some health issues, and then I kind of lost track
of the whole thing. And so I'm a month behind, and I need to get the
process going and the inspections.
MR. ASHTON: Mr. Chairman, the operational costs have not
been paid, the previous ones.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Ah. Yeah, nothing has been paid on
this, the operational costs.
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MR. DOINO: 64.59.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 64.59, plus today's are 59.35.
MR. DUNKER: I can pay that right now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You can pay that?
MR. DUNKER: Yes.
MS. CURLEY: Are you living here?
MR. DUNKER: Yes, I do, most of the time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This was a year and a half
ago, and this was for a demolition of a bathroom, I guess.
MR. DUNKER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You took out the Sheetrock, the
plumbing, et cetera?
MR. DUNKER: Yeah. We switched sides from -- the faucets
and everything was on the left and on the right and, you know, we
moved to the left, and the bathtub is now on the other side, so --
MS. CURLEY: Was it unlicensed, Jeff?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Contractor licensing was involved. I
don't believe they got any contractor involvement. It doesn't look like
it in the case notes, so -- but it was initiated through contractor
licensing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this a single-family or a condo?
MR. DUNKER: It's single-family.
MS. CURLEY: Did you do this work yourself?
MR. DUNKER: Most of it was ourself. Some of it was -- yeah.
MS. CURLEY: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, a year and a half has
gone by. If we were to give you more time, how much time do you
need to get this thing all done?
MR. DUNKER: It depends a little bit on the findings of the
inspectors when they come in, because we need to inspect according to
the information on the computer, drywall modifications, and plumbing
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modifications.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you have a building permit?
MR. DUNKER: No, I didn't.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Then you don't get any inspections
until you have a building permit to begin with. So you're starting from
square one.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I believe a permit was issued at one point,
but it was expired in June of 1917 (sic). So I think, yeah, you'd have to
get that reactivated.
MS. NICOLA: 2017, right.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yes, 2017. Did I say, "19"?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yeah. Living in the past.
MS. NICOLA: It's been a long morning.
MS. CURLEY: So do you anticipate hiring a contractor to do this
work for you, or are you going to continue to do this on your own?
MR. DUNKER: Well, the work is essentially finished. You
know, I'm living in the place. And so I need to get the county
inspectors in and check the work that has been done, and then it
depends on what the findings of the inspectors are whether I need a
contractor.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me explain this again.
MR. DUNKER: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You have to have an active building
permit --
MR. DUNKER: I understand.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- for the inspections to occur.
MR. DUNKER: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. DUNKER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So the permit that was issued
expired in June.
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MR. DUNKER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You have to get that reactivated,
number one.
MR. DUNKER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Number two, since the work is done,
you probably need to have this done by affidavit. Am I making sense?
MR. LETOURNEAU: I can't speak for what the Building
Department's going to need. Sometimes they might just have him open
up a section and look at it maybe through the drywall. I'm not really
sure. That would be up to the Building Department, though.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Was there electrical and plumbing
involved? Obviously plumbing if you moved a bathtub.
MR. DUNKER: Plumbing above ground and some electrical,
yes.
MR. LETOURNEAU: It could be a possibility that they would
now require an affidavit, but they might just have him open up a
section of the wall and take a look at some stuff.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, when you're dealing with
plumbing and electrical, you know, safety and health always pops into
my head.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This bathroom you're currently
using?
MR. DUNKER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we typically don't permit that
either. I don't know how you'd police that, but...
MR. LETOURNEAU: We'd police it by getting an inspection
and a CO from the Building Department. I mean --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do you think you can get this all done in 90
days, even if you have to hire an architect to do what they call -- to get
an after-the-fact permit.
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MR. DUNKER: Yeah. As best I can tell, everything's working.
So if we have to open the walls, you know, that can be done, and it can
be closed. I believe everything else should be -- will be found to be
okay, but --
MR. LEFEBVRE: I make a motion that we continue this for 90
days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion. Do we
have a second?
MS. ELROD: I'll second it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second. Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You have 90 days to get this
thing resolved, and you'll need to come back here one way or the other
because you -- by the way, in your motion, I'm assuming that you're
going to pay the --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- the operational costs today.
MR. LEFEBVRE: That is part of the -- absolutely.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's part of the motion. Okay.
MR. DUNKER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Because right now the fines that --
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have accrued to $41,000. So if you want that dollar figure modified,
you're going to have to come back before us.
MR. DUNKER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you can expect that number will
be bigger in 90 days also, because you're going to have 90 days times
$200 a day added to that.
MR. DUNKER: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. That's where we stand.
Okay. Thank you.
MR. DUNKER: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Gerald has to leave right
now. We still have a quorum.
(Mr. Lefebvre left the boardroom for the remainder of the
meeting.
MS. ADAMS: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Jeff?
MR. LETOURNEAU: I've got the next one, too.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You do.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I do.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Kerry, what's the next one?
MS. ADAMS: The next item is Item 6A10, Case
CESD20150015459, Frances Poole.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can you bring the microphone
down. There you go. So you are here to request something?
MS. STUCKY: Yes, sir. Yes, I'm Deborah Stucky representing
my mother, the homeowner, Frances Poole.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And?
MS. STUCKY: And we are here to request an abatement of our
fines due to a non-permitting concern issue that has all been taken care
of.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I see that the violation has
been abated, and the previously assessed operational costs have been
paid.
Do you have any comments, Jeff?
MR. LETOURNEAU: The county has no objection to anything
that you want to grant these people.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody like to make a
motion?
MS. CURLEY: I'll make a motion --
MR. DOINO: Make a motion we abate.
MS. CURLEY: -- to -- is that the right word?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, when you do this, make a
motion, if you're going to abate the fine, that you deny the county's
ability to impose a fine.
MS. CURLEY: I make a motion to deny the county the ability to
impose a fine, and I thank this person for being the first one today that
came with her account up -- with her violation completed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. STUCKY: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And do we have a second?
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have a second.
Okay. All those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
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MS. STUCKY: Thank you.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Thank you.
MS. CURLEY: First one all day.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: A good day's work.
MS. ADAMS: There's been one other change to the agenda.
Item 6A9, Case CESD20150002237, Edward M. Miller and Brittany
L. Miller, has been withdrawn.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Which brings to us?
MS. ADAMS: Do you need to vote on the change to the agenda?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Take a motion to --
MR. DOINO: Make a motion to --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- modify the agenda.
MR. DOINO: -- modify the agenda.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. The next item on the agenda is Item 5C9,
Case CEPM20170007397, Laker Investment Management,
Incorporated.
MR. BOLZANO: Good morning.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We're back to the Cs.
MR. ASHTON: Number 9.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'm not slow; the computer is.
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MR. BOLZANO: You tell me when you're --
MS. CURLEY: Where is it?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 5C9, C9.
MS. CURLEY: Got it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is Laker Investment; is that
correct?
MS. ADAMS: That's correct.
MR. BOLZANO: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let the record show that there
is no respondent present. This is loose sewer caps, okay.
MR. BOLZANO: Correct. Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't you present. Good
morning.
MR. BOLZANO: For the record, Investigator Frank Bolzano,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to Case No. CEPM2017000397 dealing with
violations of Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter
22, Article VI, Section 22-228, Subsection 1.
Violation is of broken/loose sewer caps that are not seated or
sealed correctly in need of repair and/or replacement being a safety and
health hazard. Located at 4500 Golden Gate Parkway; Folio
35980440001.
Service was given on August 28th, 2017.
I would like to now present evidence in the following exhibits:
Three photographs. The first photograph was taken on 4/27/2017.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We need a motion to accept
the photographs.
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept.
MS. ELROD: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
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MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. BOLZANO: The second photograph was taken on August
1st, 2017.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: While you have it up there, why
don't you explain what we're looking at.
MR. BOLZANO: Basically what we're looking at right now is
what they've done is they've actually taken plywood and, it covered the
tops of the open sewer caps or broken -- the sewer caps have actually
collapsed inside. There's two of them. It's a duplex, multifamily. So
you're looking at one open sewer cap, and then they've covered two of
them. And in the next picture you'll see clearly the three that are
opened up.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Frank, was this picture -- this one we see
up now, was this taken yesterday?
MR. BOLZANO: No, that was taken 4/17.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay.
MR. BOLZANO: Actually, excuse me. I'm wrong. That was
taken yesterday.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay.
MR. BOLZANO: They covered that up. You're right. Sorry
about that. Excuse me.
On 4/27/2017, the original -- on my first site visit, that's what I
came across. And as you can notice, you'll see three sewer caps, two
have fallen inside, and they are both broken and definitely in need of
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repair.
And then, again, I went back on August 1st after being in contact
with Laker Investments and Joe Houston, and it shows the same. This
is a little bright, but you'll see the opening of the sewer caps and how
they've pretty much almost fallen into the sewer system.
And the next is an aerial photograph that I obtained from the
Property Appraiser's Office that shows the property.
And -- now this case originated on April 27, 2017, as a public
complaint. The complaint was concerned with unsecured sewer caps
that looked to be either replaced -- that needed to be replaced or in
need of repair.
A site visit was made on April 27th, 2017. And while I was on
site, I observed damaged and unseated/unsealed sewer caps that -- and
that they were definitely in need of replacement and repair.
Through the Property Appraiser's website, I found that Laker
Investments had recently bought the property and, through research, I
was able to find that Mr. Joe Houston was the contact person for Laker
Investments. At that time I made contact with Mr. Houston, and
during our discussion I was told he had a construction crew on site,
and the sewer caps would be corrected that day.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What day was that?
MR. BOLZANO: That was actually -- that was on --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's in April.
MR. BOLZANO: That's back in April.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. That's close enough.
MR. BOLZANO: I'm just trying to get the exact date for you.
Actually it was on -- yeah, in April.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. BOLZANO: And then I kept in contact with him through
May and June 5th, again, I spoke with him again -- and, however, as of
yesterday, the violation still remains, and I have been unable to contact
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his office or the registered agent for the company of Laker
Investments.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: When you spoke to him, he said he
had a construction crew there to take care of it?
MR. BOLZANO: They would take care of it, and through the
notes and speaking with him, he had gone through three different
contractors. And there was a stop work order at one point on the
property and -- because of other issues that they were having on this
duplex. But the case that I'm dealing with, with the sewer caps, he said
that they were going to be abated and come into compliance, and he
has become --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Missing in action.
MR. BOLZANO: -- rogue.
MS. CURLEY: Is he -- do you know, is he a realtor? Is he an
attorney? Who is this person; do you know? Is this --
MR. BOLZANO: The registered agent is the -- is an attorney.
MS. CURLEY: Okay.
MR. BOLZANO: And I went to her office, left my business card,
spoke with her secretary and did not receive any response, and this was
just recently.
Mr. Houston, his office has changed twice now. And I've been to
both offices, and I have yet to actually be in physical contact with him.
It's just over the phone. And now the phone number that I originally
had with him is now disconnected. So now I'm trying to find what
business he's at, and I can't find him.
MS. CURLEY: So can you serve the registered -- can you
forward this documentation to the registered agent? Because if she's
an attorney, she'll have to take action on it. If we can't find him, when
she gets it, she'll have to take action, or she'll remove herself.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Before we do that, we need to find
out whether a violation exists or not.
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MR. ASHTON: Make a motion a violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion.
MS. ELROD: Second.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second. All those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. So you tried to reach them, you couldn't reach them. And
the notice was given by certified mail?
MR. BOLZANO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Property was posted?
MR. BOLZANO: Property was the posted, courthouse was
posted, and regular mail, certified mail, and I also tried to make
personal service with Mr. Houston and the registered agent.
Unsuccessful at all of them.
MS. CURLEY: Is the property currently rented?
MR. BOLZANO: No. It's a duplex. It's a multifamily that
they're redoing over, and it basically has stopped. They've gotten to a
certain point, and it just seems like the job has come to a standstill for
whatever reason. I don't know what.
MS. CURLEY: And, I'm sorry. When you say sewer, are those
septic tanks, or is that county sewer --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sewer.
MS. CURLEY: County sewer?
MR. LETOURNEAU: No, I believe that's septic.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Septic. Okay. Well, to my way of
looking at this, this is certainly a safety and health. Someone can fall
in there.
MS. CURLEY: Is the fence completely around the back of that
property where we can see in your photographs? Is that back of that
property secured?
MR. BOLZANO: That is Toucan Alley from the back of the
property, and it's wide open.
MS. CURLEY: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So we have a case that's a
safety. So when someone makes a motion on this, take that into
consideration that this needs to be addressed immediately.
MS. NICOLA: Can I make one point of clarification, sir? I'm
looking at the notice of violation, and in the notice of violation it says
that the registered agent is Joseph Houston. Can you tell me who the
registered agent is? You said she's an attorney.
MR. BOLZANO: Jane Yeager.
MS. NICOLA: Jane Yeager, thank you. Because I think that in
the order we should provide notice to both of them.
MS. CURLEY: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All right. So would someone like to
take a -- do you have a suggestion for us to begin with?
MR. BOLZANO: First of all, definitely, I would -- to contact or
notify Jane Yeager, the registered agent. Oh, excuse me. Excuse me.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, make it bigger.
MR. BOLZANO: Yeah. Description of violation: Loose sewer
caps not seated correctly and in need of repair/replacement.
Recommendation: The Code Enforcement Board orders the
respondent to pay all operational costs in the amount of $59.49
incurred in the prosecution of this case within 30 days and abate all
violations.
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MR. LETOURNEAU: Continue.
MR. BOLZANO: I don't have a date.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. We'll fill in the blanks.
MS. CURLEY: So there's no permits on this? Open permits?
New permits? Nothing?
MR. BOLZANO: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I don't even know if you need a
permit to cover that. That's a --
MR. LETOURNEAU: Once again, for the record, Jeff
Letourneau, Collier County Code Enforcement.
I believe that that septic system, from previous cases, is shot, and
that they're going to need, like, a whole new --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Removal.
MR. LETOURNEAU: A whole new sha-bang, yeah.
MR. CURLEY: And that's why they're not doing anything,
because it's expensive.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That doesn't stop somebody from
stepping there and falling in, though.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. However, they could do some
remedy to fix that up where it's not a safety issue.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well -- and something more
substantial than throwing a piece of plywood over it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. We would go by whatever -- you
know, if they didn't get the permit, whatever the building official told
us that they could do other than that, that's what we would go by at that
point.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So would -- can you move
that up so we can see the bottom of that?
MS. ADAMS: That is the bottom.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That is the bottom, okay. Would
someone like to take a stab at filling in the amount and days?
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MR. ASHTON: I'll try it. Recommend that the Code
Enforcement orders the respondent to pay the 59.49, obtain all Collier
County building permits, inspections, certificate of completion, and
repair and replace sewer caps within seven days, or a fine of $200 a
day will be imposed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do we have a second?
MR. DOINO: Second that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I think that's more than
generous on a safety and health.
All those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay, thank you.
You're going to notify the attorney?
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'll make sure we notify everybody
involved with this case.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And --
MR. LETOURNEAU: And, obviously, we'll post the property
and whatever phone calls we can make.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Great.
MS. ADAMS: The next item on the agenda is Item 6A6, Case
CESD20150024661, Theodore Canales.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MS. PEREZ: Good morning. For the record, Cristina Perez,
Collier County Code Enforcement Supervisor.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MS. PEREZ: Good morning.
This is in reference to CEB Case No. CESD20150024661.
The violation's of Collier County Land Development Code 04-41,
as amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
Location is 1402 Orange Street in Collier County. Folio number
is 30681960005.
Description is renovating the interior and exterior of a
single-family residence prior to the issuance of a building permit.
Past orders: On August 26th, 2016, the Code Enforcement Board
issued a findings of fact and conclusion of law and order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached order of the board,
OR5311, Page 1595, for more information.
On January 25th, 2017, a continuance was granted. See the
attached order of the board, OR5359, Page 3973, for more information.
The violation has been partly abated as of October 25th, 2016.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Part B of the order, fines
have accrued at the rate of $150 per day for the period from September
26th, 2016, to October 25th, 2016.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can I stop you there for one second.
Can you just, in summary fashion, tell us what Part B and Part C is?
MS. PEREZ: Looking at the order, Part B, which was the fines
accrued at the rate of $150 per day from September 26th, 2016, to
October 25th, 2016, for 30 days, for a total fine of $4,500, and that was
the respondent was ordered to abate the violation by obtaining all
required Collier County building permits or demolition permit on or
before September 26th, 2016, or a fine of $150 would be imposed for
each day the violation remained.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So from what you said right there,
they did get the building permit?
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MS. PEREZ: They did obtain a building permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. That's Part B. Okay. Gotcha.
MS. PEREZ: And then Part C, fines have accrued at the rate of
$115 per day.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: $150.
MS. PEREZ: Sorry -- $150 per day for the period from
December 25th, 2016, to November 17, 2017, 328 days, for a total fine
amount of $49,200. The fines continue to accrue on Part C of the
order.
Previously assessed operational cost of $128.34 have been paid.
Operational costs for today hearings are $59.63.
Total amount is $53,759.63.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So I assume they got the building
permit. They just never finished the work to where a CO was issued,
and that's why the balance of the fine is still accruing.
MS. PEREZ: That's correct. They did apply for a permit on
August 23rd, 2016. It was issued to them on November 8th, 2016.
And they called in three inspections; they were approved. They had an
insulation, a sheer wall, and a framing inspection all pass, but after that
they didn't do any continued work to finish the remaining nine missing
inspections, and the permit expired on October 22, 2017.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd like the record to show that the
respondent is not present today.
MS. PEREZ: Yes. I did actually speak to Mr. Canales this
morning, and he has been here in the past when we requested the
continuance and with the initial hearing. He said he had been out of
town, and he recently, you know, came into town.
He doesn't live at this location, which is where we post our notice,
and he said he wasn't aware that he had today's hearing.
He explained that his contractor -- it took him so long. He
requested that continuance because his contractor about a year ago had
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had a bad accident, recently had been ill. Mr. Jackie Williams is his
contractor.
I know that with the hurricane, Mr. Jackie Williams has been very
preoccupied pulling different permits for people out in Immokalee with
their mobile homes and some electrical issues.
I did also talk to Jackie this morning. He is out of town this
weekend, but they were going to touch base on Monday. So I
explained to Mr. Canales that I didn't know if you would, you know,
grant him any additional time, but that we would still continue to work
with him, and if his lien was imposed, we would guide him as to what
he needed to do to go before the commissioners, you know, if he
wished to request for his fines to be reduced in the future.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The reason that he's not here today
is?
MS. PEREZ: He said that he had been out of town. He just
recent returned, and he was not aware that he had -- I guess he didn't
receive the hearing packet, or he didn't read it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You spoke to him when?
MS. PEREZ: This morning, 30, 40 minutes ago.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Oh, okay. Any comments from the
Board?
MS. ELROD: He wasn't noticed at his residence? Only the
property was noticed?
MS. PEREZ: Yeah. I don't believe he lives in Immokalee. And
this home is a home that -- he says the only reason why he was
refurbishing it is because his wife and I -- him and his wife, this was
the first home that they purchased when they were 16 years old and got
married. So they haven't sold it. And he wanted to refurbish it for it to
be something that, you know, maybe when he comes into town and,
you know, just wants to stay in Immokalee, he would have that
residence. He has no intentions of selling it but, unfortunately, because
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he is not an owner-occupied dwelling, he has to depend on a contractor
to finish it up.
He did tell me that he has not finished paying the contractor to
complete all the work, so that's been part of the hault as well.
MR. LETOURNEAU: We did post the actual property and the
courthouse and sent certified and regular mail to his address of record,
which is not this property. So I don't know why he didn't receive it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Fort Myers.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, obviously this has been
going on for a year, over a year. I think the clock has run out on this
one.
MS. PEREZ: I did share those thoughts with him.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Anybody like to make a motion on
this?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion that a violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, no. This is imposition.
MR. ASHTON: I'm sorry. I make a motion that the fines be
imposed.
MR. DOINO: Yes, second.
MS. ELROD: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
impose the fines. All those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
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MS. PEREZ: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. And the last case on the agenda is Item
6A11, Case CESD20150011320, Kelly Baker.
(The speaker were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This one was abated. You
want to read through it, Joe?
MR. MUCHA: Well, I spoke to Mrs. Baker yesterday. For the
record, Joe Mucha, Collier County, and she was unavailable to come to
the hearing. She's out of the area right now, but she -- the county
would have no objection to waiving these fines.
MR. LETOURNEAU: She did request that she wanted the
abatement.
MR. MUCHA: Right. She wasn't able to be here but, yes, she
would have been here if she was in the area.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So this was abated in August. Okay.
And the fines --
MR. MUCHA: All the ops costs have been paid.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. Fines accrued till August, 318
days. And this was a single-wide mobile home and utility shed. Okay.
I understand.
Do you want to read through all of this for the record?
MR. MUCHA: Sure. Sure, I can. This is a -- the original
violation is of Collier County Land Development Code 04-41, as
amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
The violation location is 259 Gladys Court. Folio No.
01132480005.
Description was a single-wide mobile home and utility shed
staged on improved, unoccupied residential property without first
obtaining the required permits, inspections, and certificate of
occupancy/completion.
Past orders: On May 26th, 2016, the Code Enforcement Board
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issued a finding of fact, conclusion of law and order. The respondent
was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and ordered to
correct the violation. See the attached order of the board, OR5278,
Page 2558, for more information.
On October 28th, 2016, a continuance was granted. See the
attached order of the board, OR5330, Page 2999, for more information.
On February 23rd, 2017, a continuance was granted. See the
attached order of the board, OR5368, Page 3571, for more information.
The violation has been abated as of August 7th, 2017. Fines have
accrued at a rate of $200 per day for the period from September 24th,
2016, to August 7th, 2017, 318 days, for a total fine amount of
$63,600.
Previously assessed operational costs of 65.43 have been paid.
Operational costs for today's hearing is $59.70. Total fine amount
$63,659.70.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody like to take a --
make a motion on this?
MR. ASHTON: I have a question. I mean, this goes all the way
back to May of 2016, and all she had to do was get permits and
inspections?
MR. MUCHA: It was --
MR. ASHTON: Am I correct?
MR. MUCHA: I mean, this is in the Copeland area, so I think she
was having a hard time -- it took her a long time to find a contractor
that was able to help her out, and I think there was some financial
issues as well.
MS. CURLEY: Yes, there was. And the mobile home had been
exchanged years before, right?
MR. MUCHA: I believe so, yes.
MS. CURLEY: So where are we?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'm looking for a motion.
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MS. CURLEY: I would like to make a motion to -- I don't want
to say --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Deny?
MS. CURLEY: -- deny the county any fines associated to this
case. I remember this woman, and she's started and finished this,
which I'm thankful for.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. DOINO: Second it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion to deny the
imposition of fines by the county, and we have a second. All those in
favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So it's 4-1, right, okay.
All right. Thanks, Joe.
MR. MUCHA: Thank you, sir.
MS. ADAMS: The next item on the agenda is the consent
agenda, the request to forward cases to the County Attorney's Office.
You all should have a memo there in front of you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you need a motion for that?
MS. ADAMS: Uh-huh.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Give me a motion to forward.
MR. DOINO: Make a motion to move forward.
MS. CURLEY: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second.
MS. CURLEY: I second the motion.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: To forward the --
MS. CURLEY: The November 17th, 2017, foreclosure
authorization memo.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Are we done for the year?
MS. ADAMS: Yep. The next hearing is January 26th, 2018.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 2018. I'll be writing 2017 through
March, I guess.
MS. CURLEY: Make a motion to adjourn.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion to adjourn.
MS. ELROD: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We are adjourned.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 11:19 a.m.
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