CCPC Minutes 08/20/2003 RAugust 20, 2003
August 20, 2003
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION/LAND DEVELOPMENT
COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, August 20, 2003
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Planning Commission
in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at 5:05 pm in REGULAR SESSION in Building "H", Room 216,
of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
CHAIRMAN:
Kenneth Abemathy
Mark Strain
Dwight Richardson
Lora Jean Young
Lindy Adelstein
Brad Schiffer
Paul Midney
Russell Budd
David Wolfley-Absent (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT:
Susan Murray
Nancy Siemion
Russell Webb
Joe Schmitt
Russ Mueller
Marjorie Student
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LDC Amendment Meeting
Roll Call
Call to Order
LDC Amendments:
Russell Webb: Announced that only the grey items on the agenda will be discussed.
The following amendments were voted on from Cycle 2 of the Summary Sheet:
Sec. 1.8.10.2.1' Docks and Boathouses. The proposed amendment provides an exception
to the 50% destruction requirement for a legal nonconforming use.
- Joe Schmitt discussed the policy. The structure may exceed 50% as long as it does not
go beyond initial non-conforming structure. They are awaiting policy development.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Sec. 2.2.33.22.13: Garages and Driveways (Bayshore Mixed Use Overlay District). The
proposed amendment adds a separation requirement from the garage to the back of the
sidewalk.
- Mark Strain asked about the space of a parallel space. Discussion between Mr. Strain
and Mr. Stan Chrzanowski regarding size -20 feet versus 23 feet.
- Mr. Richardson questioned if this was only pertinent to this issue or to the county as a
whole. It was determined that it was pertinent to this issue. Footage will be revisited.
Mr. Abernathy made a motion to approve with the "at least" correction added to the
verbiage.
Mr. Strain opposed
Motion for approval to move forward: 7-1
Sec. 2.2.34.5: Goodland Overlay (Parking and Storage): Proposed amendment allows
commercial vehicles to be parked in the driveways and swales of Goodland homeowner's
with certain restrictions.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
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Sec. 2.2.34.7: Goodland Overlay (Signs). Proposed amendment allows an exemption
from the sign ordinance for a short period of time.
- Mr. Schiffer questioned the date of approval and if existing signage would be
"grandfathered in." Michaelle Crowley of code enforcement confirmed that they would
be.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Sec. 2.4.3.1: Landcaping and Buffering: Proposed amendment requires installation of
landscape buffers prior to vertical construction when a nonresidential project is
constructed adjacent to an existing residential development.
Nancy Siemion was available to answer questions from the committee: - Discussion over whether this applies to all zoning districts and not just
commercial.
- Mr. Budd addressed net cost increases.
Motion to recommend with disapproval by Mr. Abernathy.
Seconded by Mr. Budd.
Motion recommended disapproval passed 8-0.
Sec. 2.4.3.5: Landscaping and Buffering: Proposed amendment recommended moving
lighting and landscape language from the architectural section into landscaping buffering.
Discussion over whether this applied to all zoning districts. Ms. Siemion
confirmed that it did.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Sec. 2.4.6.6: Landscaping and Buffering: Proposed amendment is restatement of the
landscape requirements for building foundation plantings.
- Discussion over fiscal impact. Adds non-buildable area to the site.
- Discussion of setback criteria.
- Clarification to the code is needed.
- Mr. Schiffer commented that it seemed excessive.
Public Speaker: Mr. George Fogg
Landscape architect. He discussed the size of the landscape buffer and the issue
of"breathing space" and attractiveness.
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Public Speaker: Wayne Hood
Landscape architect. Spoke about the impact of property value. Discussed
classification of plant materials and stated that we want to avoid a "concrete
jungle."
Stan K. addressed the issue of long-term maintenance.
Motion to approve by Mr. Richardson with the addition of verbiage, at Ms. Siemion's
suggestion, to be changed to "contiguous area."
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Mr. Schiffer and Mr. Strain opposed
Motion for approval to move forward passed 6-2.
Sec. 2.4.7.3: Landscaping and Buffering. Proposed amendment is restatement of the
water management areas in relation to landscape buffer areas.
Ms. Siemion suggested keeping the original language and removing the proposed
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Sec. 2.5.5: Permitted Signs. Proposed amendment will allow barber pole signs that
otherwise meet requirements for permitted on-premises signs to be considered a s new
class of special purpose sign which allows the pole of a barber pole sign to rotate when
illuminated.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Sec. 2.6.9.1 and Sec. 2.6.9.2: Essential Services: Proposed amendment will add fire
stations, EMS sub stations and sheriff substations to the permitted uses in the agricultural
district. Also, adding ancillary fire station services to the conditional use section.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Sec. 3.2.4.11: Pulled from the agenda for lack of appropriate information
Sec. 6.1.4: Day Definition: Proposed amendment will revise this section to define day
and specify when a calendar day as opposed to a business day is applicable.
- Discussion over uniform applications.
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- Ms. Student suggested impact assessment and proposed "exception."
The amount of days needs to be clarified.
Mr. Abemathy made a Motion to send forward with disapproval
Mr. Midney seconded.
Motion to disapprove: 8-0
Sec. 6.3: Definitions: Proposed amendment adds educational definitions from the School
Board interlocal agreement.
Discussion regarding limiting the term "adjacent" to school board issues.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Appendix B: Typical Street Sections and Right-of-Way Design Standards. Proposed
amendment- this is a housekeeping issue. Appendix B was not included in the ordinance
title page for Cycle 1 although the appendix was presented to the various boards for
approval.
- Discussion over limerock issue. Stan Chrzanowski confirmed 6" limerock.
Ms. Student suggested bringing this issue back in Cycle 3 as it was advertised as a
housekeeping issue and has now changed its course.
Mr. Strain made motion to recommend denial.
Ms. Young seconded.
Approved 8-0
The following two items were added to the agenda:
Sec. 2.2.16.21: Permitted Uses (Industrial district). Proposed amendment suggests
adding "wholesale trade- nondurable goods back into the permitted uses in the industrial
district. Also, adding indoor shooting ranges as a permitted use.
- Discussion about the N. Collier Industrial Center.
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Sec. 2.4.4.2: Currently the code allows for a 30% substitution of palms for canopy trees.
Add the following language to the end: "with the following exceptions. No more than
30% of palms may be substituted for required canopy trees within the interior of a
vehicular use area and within each individual Type D road right of way landscape
buffer."
Motion to Approve Mr. Strain
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Motion seconded by Mr. Midney
Motion for approval to move forward: 8-0
Meeting adjourned 6:30 PM.
Collier County Planning Commission
Chairman Kenneth Abernathy
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