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PVAC Minutes 08/04/2003 RAugust 04, 2003 THE PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE Conference Room "E" 2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida 9:30 PM August 4, 2003 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Public Vehicle Advisory Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:30 AM in REGULAR SESSION in Conference Room "E" of 2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Naples, Florida, with the following members present: Members: Patricia Baisley William Csogi Allen Walburn Collier County Staff: Michele Arnold - Code Enforcement Director Janet Powers - Operations Manager John Marsh - Code Enforcement Robert Zachary - Assistant County Attorney Page 1 AGENDA COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE August 4, 2003 9~30 AM Collier County Comuuunity Development Services Building 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive Conference R~om E ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THAT TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. PLEASE ENSURE ALL PAGERS AND CELL PHONES ARE OFF OR IN A QUIET POSITION. Regular Meeting I. Roll Call II. Additions or Deletions III. Approval of Agenda IV. Approval of Minutes: June 2, 2003 V. Notices VI. New Business: (a) Regency Executive Services & Transportation, Inc. (b) Abroad Inc., DBA Able Transportation & Tours (c) PUBLIC SPEAKERS~ VII. Hearing VIII. Old Business IX. Complaint Report X. Discussion A) Status of Driver IDs Issued B) Revoke Operator'slicense ~omAARON Transportation XI. Announcements XII. NEXT MEETING~ September , 2003 August 04, 2003 I. Roll Call -The meeting was called to order at 9:40. The roll was taken and a quorum was established. -Dan Shriner and Nick Whitney were absent. II. Additions or Deletions -Mr. Csogi stated that the owner of Dolphin Transportation wanted to speak to the PVAC. This item was added to the agenda as Item D under New Business. -The committee members agreed to the agenda with the addition of Item D under New Business. III. Approval of Minutes: June 2, 2003 -Mr. Csogi stated that he originally made the statement: "vehicles that are 15 passengers that are not regulated by DOT, either Federal or State, should be permitted by Collier County per our ordinance. Mr. Palmer concurred with this." This change to the minutes should be placed as item A, under #10, Page 5. The current item A will now be listed as item B. -Patricia Baisley made a motion to approve the minutes of June 2, 2003 as amended. It was seconded by Allen Walburn. All were in favor of the motion; the motion passed unanimously, 3-0. IV. Notices -There were no notices. V. New Business A) Regency Executive Services & Transportation, Inc. -A representative from Regency Executive Services & Transportation, Inc. was present. -Mr. Csogi noted that the registration needed to be changed from "private" to "commercial" and that the binder did not have the BCC listed on it. -Allen Walbum made a motion to approve the application, pending the two changes. Patricia Baisley seconded the motion. All were in favor of the motion; the motion passed unanimously; 3-0. B) Abroad Inc., DEA Able Transportation & Tours Page 2 August 04, 2003 -There was no representative present from Able Transportation & Tours. -Janet Powers stated that she believed this company was only changing owners. -Mr. Csogi requested a document from Able Transportation & Tours, which states that they were releasing their name. Mr. Csogi was concerned because the application listed both a charter service and a taxi service. If the owner is going to have a taxi service, then documents are still needed for the application to be considered complete. Mr. Csogi was also concerned that the insurance certificate did not look like an actual insurance certificate for an Accord. The applicant also needed to include a criminal background check for Joseph Logalbo. -Mr. Walburn noted that although the corporate officers are listed in the application, but the application does not identify the owners of the corporation. -The committee agreed to continue this item to the next meeting. C) Public Speakers: 1) Robert Bruno asked the committee why he had been denied a Driver's ID license. The statement he received informed him that the denial was based on an incident that occurred in 2001. Mr. Bruno explained that he had not been convicted of a crime since 1999, but he added that the DMV hadn't filed the paperwork in 1999. Mr. Bruno gave Michele Arnold a copy of his criminal background check. (A copy of the background check was not provided to the court reporter.) -Mr. Walbum asked if Mr. Bruno had received a driver's license from the county. Mr. Bruno stated that he had. His county driver's license had been issued to him in September 2001 as a business only license. -Robert Zachary reviewed Mr. Bruno's criminal background check and the ordinance with the committee. Mr. Zachary noted for the record that the violation was on 6-1-99, the conviction was on 8-2-99, and Mr. Bruno's license was suspended on 12-1-00. -Patricia Baisley asked if Mr. Bruno had been driving for a company when he applied for his Driver's ID. Mr. Bruno stated that he had been driving. He added that he had been driving on and off for seven years. He further explained that he did not drive while his county license had been Page 3 August04,2003 suspended and he did not drive since his Driver's ID had been denied. Michele Arnold asked if Mr. Bruno had been driving prior to the denial of his Driver's ID. Mr. Bruno replied "yes". -Mr. Walbum explained that the DMV was computer generated and at times, through no fault of the driver, there can be a "paper snafu", which can cause problems. Mr. Walbum felt that Mr. Bruno should be granted a driver's ID, since Mr. Bruno has a valid county driver's license and it has been three years since he had been adjudicated for his offense. -Patricia Baisley asked what they should do about the fact that Mr. Bruno had been driving when he should not have been driving. Mr. Csogi noted that Mr. Bruno is trying to come into compliance and this is the goal of the PVAC. -The committee informed him that as of this date, he is able to have a Driver's ID, but he was unable to receive a Driver's 1D prior to this date because he had to wait 3 years since the adjudication of his offense. 2) Herman Pfut, Southwest, stated that he had submitted all of the paperwork for his driver's licensing, but he was still waiting for three licenses. He asked for a status report on this situation. -Michele Arnold stated that Mr. Pfut needed to call her to discuss this, rather than bringing the matter to a public meeting. She provided her phone number. -Mr. Pfut stated that he had called the department before, but the problem was not resolved. Michele Arnold requested that he call her directly. Mr. Csogi stated that if Mr. Pfut did not have the situation resolved by the next meeting, then he should return for the assistance of the PVAC. D) Francis Papps, Dolphin Transportation stated that he submitted paperwork for 18 of his driver's in January or February of 2003. He didn't receive a response until July 28, 2003 and the county requested that all of his driver's appear the next day from 9am - 1:30pm. Mr. Papps did not feel that he received a response in a timely fashion and he believed that the amount of notice he was given for his appointment was too short. Page 4 August 04, 2003 -Michele Arnold stated that they discussed this issue before and they informed the applicants that if they cannot make their appointments, then all they need to do is call and reschedule. -Mr. Walburn felt the applicants should call Michele Arnold's office to take this up with her, rather than continually coming before the PVAC, who has no authority in the matter. -Mr. Csogi asked if it was written on the form, that an applicant can call and reschedule if he/she is unable to make their appointment. Michele Arnold stated that they can add this to the form. Janet Powers added that in the past, they have worked with the applicants to reschedule appointments when necessary. -Mr. Papps stated that he was also concerned about the code enforcement department. He explained a situation where one of his employees felt that she had been harassed by a code enforcement officer. He requested that the code enforcement department work in a more polite and cooperative manner. - Michele Arnold stated that she had spoken with Mr. Papps about this matter. -Mr. Walburn explained that the PVAC had no authority in this matter and that this is not the proper forum to discuss this. He added that he understood Mr. Papps's situation, but this was a matter for Mr. Papps to take up with the code enforcement director since it was an employee related issue. Michele Arnold agreed with Mr. Walburn. -Mr. Csogi asked Michele Arnold if Mr. Papps could contact her, specifically. Michele Arnold stated that Mr. Papps and she have already spoken. Mr. Papps added that he only wanted to make the PVAC aware of the situation. VI. Hearings -There were no hearings. VII. Old Business -There was no old business to discuss. VIII. Complaint Report -John Marsh, Code Enforcement Department, provided the PVAC with a written update on Code Case #'s 2003070715 & 2003061058. During routine site visits, the code enforcement officers found various decals on Aaron Airport Page 5 August 04, 2003 Transportation vehicles that were not issued to Aaron Airport Transportation. Upon closer evaluation, the county believes that some of the decals used by Aaron Airport Transportation are duplicates and forgeries. Detective Glick, Airport Police, has been investigating this matter. All departments are exchanging information and will keep in touch with updates on this matter. -Mr. Walburn asked if this was an ongoing code enforcement violation or if it was now an ongoing criminal investigation. Mr. Marsh informed him that they are trying to get some department involved; this has been through Collier County, Lee County, and the Airport Police. -Mr. Csogi asked if Aaron Airport Transportation was certificated in Collier County. Mr. Marsh stated that they are. Patricia Baisley asked how many decals had been issued to Aaron Airport Transportation. Mr. Marsh replied four. -Mr. Csogi stated that they should have a hearing and therefore they should not speak on the matter further at this meeting. Mr. Zachary agreed that this should come back at a later point and stated that he was concerned that the PVAC had heard this much at this time; he was concerned that the case was partly "pre- heard". Michele Arnold felt that they needed to determine if the matter was within the realm of the PVAC and whether or not there were violations to their specific ordinance. Mr. Zachary agreed, but he believed that this needed to be determined by the code enforcement department, who would then determine whether or not to bring the matter before the board in the form of a hearing. -Mr. Csogi stated that the PVAC had previously discussed the need for a new, different decal sticker this year. Michele Arnold stated that they are working on this. -The committee decided to wait until the next meeting to discuss this any further. This allows time for the various departments to determine if the matter will be heard by the PVAC or if it will become a criminal investigation. -Mr. Csogi added that he felt they should also consider changing the driver's License IDs each year, since they could also be easily forged. IX. Discussion A) Status of Driver IDs Issued Page 6 August 04, 2003 -Janet Powers stated that they have issued 222 Driver IDs to date and -170 of those IDs still have to be picked up. B) Revoke Certificate to Operate from AARON Transportation -This matter was continued until the next meeting. X. Announcements -Mr. Csogi noted that at the last meeting there was a motion made by Allen Walburn, which required Hollywood Limo and Elite Limo to appear at this meeting with their log books and show cause in their log books. Michele Arnold stated that they have not followed up on this yet. Mr. Walburn asked if they could do so for the September meeting. Michele Arnold stated that they would do so. V. Adjournment -The next meeting of the PVAC will be on October 6, 2003 in Conference Room "E", 2800 North Horseshoe Drive. -There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 10:32AM. PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE Chairman William Csogi Page 7