EAC Minutes 07/02/2003 R ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Board Meeting Room, 3ra Floor, Administration Building
3301 Tamiami Trail Naples, Florida 34112
9:00 AM July 2, 2003
July 2, 2003
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Environmental Advisory Committee, in and
for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00
AM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East
Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
Members:
Tom Sansbury
Alexandra Ellis
Ken Humiston
William Hughes
Alfred Gal
Ed Carlson
Erica Lynne (left at 9:55 AM)
Collier County Staff:
Patrick White, Bill Lorenz, Barb Burgeson, Stan Chrzanowski,
Stephen Lenberger, Marjorie Student
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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Wednesday, July 2, 2003
AGENDA
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
AGENDA
July 2, 2003
9:00 A.M.
Commission Boardroom
W. Harmon Turner Building (Building "F") - Third Floor
II.
III.
IV.
V.
Roll Call
Approval of Agenda
Approval of June 4, 2003 Meeting Minutes
Solid Waste Program Overview
Land Use Petitions
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Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDZ-2002-AR-2944
"Royal Palm Academy" - Section 13, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDZ-2003-AR-3605
"Botanical Place" - Section 14, Township 50 South, Range 25 East
Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDZ-2002-AR-3158
"Coconilla" - Section 17, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
Conditional Use No. CU-2002-AR-3537
"Stewart Earthmining" - Section 19, Township 46 South, Range 29 East
VIII.
IX,
X.
Old Business:
New Business:
A. Consideration to schedule a separate meeting date in October to hear the Cycle
3 LDC amendments
Council Member Comments
Public Comments
Adjournment
Council M embers: Please notify the Environmental Services Department Administrative
Assistant no later than 5:00 p.m. on June 27~ 2003 if you cannot attend this meeting or if
you have a conflict and will abstain from voting on a petition (732-2505)
General Public: Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a record of
the proceedings pertaining thereto; and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim record of
proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is
to be based.
July 2, 2003
I. Roll Call
-The meeting was called to order at 9:05 AM. A quorum was established.
Members: Alexandra Santoro, Tom Sansbury, Ken Humiston, William Hughes,
Alfred Gal, Ed Carlson, Erica Lynne
-Michael Sorrell and Michael Coe had excused absences.
-Erica Lynne noted that she would need to leave the meeting -10:00AM.
Collier County Staff: Patrick White, Bill Lorenz, Barb Burgeson, Start Chrzanowski,
Stephen Lenbergcr, Marjorie Student
II. Approval of Agenda
-At the request of the petitioner item 5C, "Coconilla", was rescheduled for the August
meeting of the EAC.
III. Approval of June 4, 2003 meeting minutes
-Mr. Carlson moved to approve the minutes of June 4, 2003 as written. It was seconded
by Alexandra Ellis. All were in favor; the motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
IV. Solid Waste Program Overview
-Denise Kirk, Waste Reduction and Recycling Manager - Waste Management
Department, gave a PowerPoint presentation to the committee. (Copies of the
presentation were not provided to the court reporter). The various parts of the solid waste
management operations are collections, disposal & landfill operations, yard waste
processing, recycling centers, outside contractors, environmental compliance, operational
permitting, public education, and customer service. There are three recycling center drop
offs for businesses and residences. The county has contracts with Waste Management
and Immokalee disposal. The integrated solid waste management includes the disposal
of solid and hazardous waste: the Naples landfill, Immokalee landfill, hazardous waste
disposal and the hazardous waste infrastructure. The Naples landfill currently has
available line-capacity until May 2005; 15+ years to be updated annually by air surveys.
Immokalee landfill is scheduled for closure in 2004, at which point it will be converted to
a waste transfer station and a recycling center. Future landfill options are existing cell
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remediation or altemative waste processing methods, which are being researched. Some
of the methods being researched are clean gasification, pyrloysis, and converting landfill
gas into energy. The county is in the process of permitting and building artificial reefs
made out of construction and demolition debris. 100% of the construction and
demolition materials are diverted. Increased recycling and waste reduction efforts are
diversion efforts to extend the life of the landfill. -98% of the 70,000 yard waste per
year collected in Collier County is reused as slide slope erosion control or is composted
by R&D Soil Builders. The Solid Waste Management Department and Waste Reduction
Team provides educational presentations to the community, as well as residential
composting presentations. The Waste Management process has cleaned wood-ways to
create marketable, valuable mulch. In March 2002 the county began working with
Immokalee disposal and Waste Management to increase the participation in Multi-family
recycling; this has created the probability of the diversion of-24 tons of recyclables per
week. In order to spread the word on recycling the Waste Management Department has a
multi-media public education campaign. The department is in the process of creating an
education center at the Naples Recycling center. This will be used by schools and other
community groups. Public drop off points for cardboard recycling are very well utilized.
The department has a tire grant from the state, which they usually receive yearly. This
grant is used to resurface playgrounds, walkways, etc... The department also received a
$50,000 grant from DEP to begin their electronics recycling program in July 2001. Since
this time, they have collected 117, 418 lbs of electronics for recycling. As directed by the
BCC the department is currently working with businesses in the community to encourage
recycling. The non-residential recycling ordinance is currently pending. Staff has visited
150 businesses and performed follow up phone contacts to see how effective the visits
are. The DEP state figures report that 60% of the municipal solid waste taken to the
landfills is generated by businesses.
-Alexandra Ellis asked when curbside recycling would be available for businesses.
Denise Kirk informed her that residential curbside recycling is franchised through the two
haulers, but businesses have an "open" business decision as to which hauler they choose.
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-Mr. Hughes asked if solvents were collected at the recycling centers. Denise Kirk
informed him that they are not. Mr. Hughes then asked if the collected paints were
contained. Gary Morocco replied that they are contained.
-Mr. Carlson asked where the waste would go once the Immokalee center is closed. Mr.
Morocco stated that it would be transferred to the Naples landfill.
-Mr. Carlson asked what the county would do when the Naples landfill is full. Mr.
Morocco stated that they are looking into gasification and other programs. Currently they
have 20 years of air space. The department is also considering diverting 120 tons per
year of solid waste, which would bring them up to 25 years of air space. Another option
is to raise elevation.
-Mr. Sansbury asked if anyone was considering the resource recovery operations. Mr.
Morocco stated that incineration is not being considered. Mr. Sansbury felt that Palm
Beach County would be a good place to do a study on the benefits and disadvantages of
resource recovery operations.
Public Speakers
A) Bob Krasowski, Zero Waste Collier County Group, stated that they have been active
on the solid waste management issue for the last 15 years. He noted the possibility of a
pyrloysis operation in Collier County. This operation is one form of incineration, and
there are concerns about emissions. Mr. Krasowski stated that he would email the
committee website links that discussed the various concerns and scientific studies on
pyrloysis. He added that Collier County has increased their recycling efforts since 2000
and now has a good infrastructure of personnel and abilities. Mr. Krasowski felt that if
the county maximizes potentials for recycling and diversion from the landfill, then they
could avoid the need for a pyrloysis facility. Mr. Krasowski stated that they have been
asking the BCC to bring in some of the experts, who spoke at the zero waste workshop,
to do a comparative analysis for the county.
B) Ralph Brookes asked about the use of open burn flames to burn the gas out of the
landfill. He explained that there was a company willing to pay all the expenses of this
process in order to convert the gas into energy. He also asked if any confirmation had
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been made that ground water near the landfill had not been violated and if there was a
current monitoring program to ensure this.
-Mr. Morocco stated that there is a current monitoring program and that they are in
compliance with all the groundwater standards. Mr. Morocco added that they have been
considering the option of the recovery of the landfill gas, but nothing has been decided at
this point.
-Mr. Carlson asked if the discharged effluent was being tested during high periods of
rainfall. Mr. Morocco stated that it was and added that the stormwater and the leech-aide
are also tested.
-Mr. Hughes asked how much cubic feet of gas was being released per day. Mr.
Morocco stated between 1400 and 1500 cubic feet per day.
C) John Mansika, Zero Waste Collier County Group, stated that they are looking at
gasification and they feel that it does not work. Rather than spending the money to
further consider this option or educate others on it, Mr. Mansika agreed with Mr.
Krasowski that the money should go to bringing in the experts, who could do a
comparative analysis. He requested that the EAC review the videotapes of the zero waste
program workshop.
-Erica Lynne asked if there was any movement on charging residents based on the
amount of curbside garbage. Denise Kirk stated that they are investigating this. Mr.
Krasowski stated that this is one of the key strategies of the zero waste program.
-The EAC committee decided that they would like to review the zero waste workshop
videotapes and the videotapes in use by the county. They decided to circulate them
through the committee members and review the tapes individually. Mr. White stated that
this was fine as long as the committee members did not discuss the tapes until an EAC
meeting where this item would be placed on the agenda. Denise Kirk stated that they
would gather the tapes and distribute them among the committee members.
V. Land Use Petitions
A) Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDZ-2002-AR-2944
"Royal Palm Academy"
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Section 13, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
-There were no disclosures reported.
-The court reporter swore in all those who were testifying.
-Wayne Arnold, Grady Minor Engineering, introduced his team for this project. The
project is located west of the existing Royal Palm Academy campus. The existing
academy is -10 acres. The project site is -162.7 acres and they are proposing a mixed-
use project that would consist of a K-12 private academy, as well as residential
components. Mr. Arnold used the masterplan to point out the residential components,
access points to Livingston road, 50 acres of campus facilities, and the preserve areas.
The county Transportation Department asked that the applicant make provisions for an
easement that would connect to Madira's easement. Mr. Arnold pointed out the location
of the easement and stated that their intent was to provide access to their residential tracts
and not to impact the wetlands, until such time that the county chose to permit the public
road network. There are -84 acres of jurisdictional wetlands on the site, most of which
are infested with Brazilian Pepper and Malucca and impacted by the road extension. 40
acres of preserve are being set aside on the site, which fulfill and exceed the native
vegetation/retention requirement. All mitigation for the impacts will be on-site. Mr.
Arnold noted that language was placed in this document to allow the 25 feet setbacks
from principal structures to be reduced to 20 feet setbacks. In these locations, they
demonstrated to staff that this change will work and there will be no impacts to the
vegetation. In regards to Water Management: they will create a flow-way system that is
approximately 50 ft wide and they will be taking a small upland area and creating a filter
marsh system.
-Fred Reischl, Planning Services, stated that this project was found to be consistent with
the GMP and compatible with neighboring uses.
-Stan Chrzanowski stated that in Section 6.6.A, where it reads: "...of the applicable
permits and plans which have been approved by Southwest Florida Water Management
District will be provided..." they will now underline the new language: "...plans which
have been approved by Southwest Florida Water Management District will be
provided .... "There were no objections to this. Mr. White added that the text that
follows in this recommendation will be inserted as the new capital letter C for 6.C.
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-Mr. Hughes made a motion to approve. It was seconded by Mr. Carlson. All were in
favor of the motion; the motion passed unanimously, 6-0.
B) Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDZ-2003-AR-3605
"Botanical Place"
Section 14, Township 50 South, Range 25 East
-There were no disclosures reported.
-The court reporter swore in all those who were testifying.
-At 10:03 AM a five minute recess was taken.
-Jeff Davidson, Davidson Engineering, stated that this is an affordable housing project
located on Bayshore Drive. The site is -20 acres. The water management system will be
mainly in the preserve area. There is a ditch on the east side of the project which will
collect the outfall from the site and then the water will flow into Henderson Creek.
-Mr. Carlson asked if the preserve area was serving as a retention area for another
project. Mr. Davidson stated that it was set up this way to meet the native vegetation
requirement. There are also some small lakes located on the front side of the project that
will be part of the water management system. Mr. Carlson stated that this was unusual
and asked if it was because the project needed very little fill. Mr. Davidson stated that
the owner of the property has the fill from the Botanical Gardens south of the project.
-Geza Wass de Czega, Southern Biomes, stated that this is a small site completely
isolated by development and canals. The site has a dense stand of heavy Malucca on the
west-side, a Java Palm infested Pine Cypress area that extends through the middle of the
site, and a mixture of Pine, Palmetto, & Brazilian Pepper on the sides. There is evidence
that the site may have been cleared at one time; approximately 30-40 years ago. The
applicant proposed the preserve area in the center of the site because it works with the
plan and contains the best wetlands, which will provide potential for restoration. The
dense Malucca areas will be -100% cleared and re-vegetated with native vegetation.
-Ray Bellows clarified that there are 218 units proposed for this project and 64 units will
be affordable housing units.
-Alexandra Ellis made a motion to approve. Mr. Carlson seconded the motion. All were
in favor of the motion; the motion passed unanimously, 6-0.
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C) Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDZ-2202-AR-3158
"Coconilla"
Section 17, Township 48 South Range 25 East
-At the request of the petitioner this item was rescheduled for the August Meeting.
D) Conditional Use No. CU-2002-AR-3537
"Stewart Earthmining"
Section 19, Township 46, Range 29 East
-There were no disclosures reported.
-The court reporter swore in all those who were testifying.
-Stan Chrzanowski, Development Review Department, located the project on a map.
Mr. Chrzanowski stated that the project is in a Citrus Grove area, near Blueberry fields,
and farming activities. The site is away from "signs of civilization". The petitioner
intends to dig a 200 acre lake on -220 acres of land. This leaves a -50ft perimeter or
buffer on the outside edge. Mr. Chrzanowski stated that the petitioner wants to dig to a
depth of 85ft. He explained that the LDC uses the "fetch formula", which is based on the
distance that wind blows across the surface of a lake, builds up a wave, and causes the
lake to overturn. As you go deeper in the lake, the colder water is denser and the wind
overturn cannot overcome this density. These conditions are known as chemo-klines and
thermo-klines. In this type of situation the top of the lake will overturn, but not the
bottom of the lake. The "fetch formula" is designed to allow the entire lake to overturn.
The petitioner will be attempting to prove that this factor is not important. Mr.
Chrzanowski stated that the Water Management District informed him that there were
lakes in Lee County that were 95-100ft deep.
-Alexandra Ellis asked what an acceptable depth would be for this project if the "fetch
formula" was used. Mr. Chrzanowski informed her that it would be -50ft.
-Pamela Stewart, representing Stewart Mining Industries, stated that the LDC says that
depths must be 20 feet, or in accordance with the fetch formula or the petitioner must do
a comparative quality water study that proves the proposed depth will not have a
detrimental effect on the groundwater resources in the surrounding area. Stewart
Earthmining chose to prove that there would be no detrimental effects and proposed a
lake depth of-85ft. Brian Bowman, associate professor of agricultural engineering at the
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University of Florida, and Freddie Langford, President of Langford Aquatics were
present to give presentations that showed that there would be no detrimental effects from
an 85ft deep lake.
-Freddie Langford used various photos and charts to demonstrate the quality of water in
lakes created by the excavation of sand. (Copies of the photos and charts were not
provided to the court reporter.) Mr. Langford referenced a photo of a sand lake that had
been created by the excavation of sand. The lake was a 10 year old lake, the grade of
sand had a quality of grade 1, the visibility was 112 inches, and there were no algae or
plant life growing. He explained that the biggest influence on water quality in a lake is
from the water that runs into the lake. The mn-off that will enter the proposed lake will
be filtered through the sand. Mr. Langford believed that since the runoff flowed through
the grade 1 sand rather than soil, the lake would have excellent water quality, just as the
10 year old sand lake. He added that there was no difference in water quality ofa 50ft or
100ft deep lake because the water quality is determined at the surface level. He stated
that there will be no detrimental effects of the proposed lake to the groundwater.
-Mr. Gal asked if the 4/1 slope would change if they dug an 85ft deep lake instead of a
50ft deep lake. JeffDavidson, engineer for the project, stated that typically lakes had a
slope of 4/1 for 3ft and then 2/1 beyond that. He added that there is no change to the
slopes based on the depth of the lake.
-Mr. Carlson asked where the referenced 10 year old sand lake was located. Mr.
Langford informed him that it was a lake in Polk County, but the nature of the sand is the
same as the proposed lake. Mr. Carlson asked if cores of the sand had been done to
determine if there was sand 85ft down. Mr. Davidson stated that the cores were done and
they have the borings available to show that this is a good location for sand. He added
that the sand is primarily to be supplied for beach re-nourishment along the coast.
-Mr. Sansbury asked what lives in this type of lake, since there are no nutrients flowing
into the lake. Mr. Langford stated that there is an amount of chlorophyll and therefore an
amount ofphytoplankton and zooplankton. He added that there are small fish in some of
the sand lakes, but not fish to the extent that there would be in a more fertile body of
water.
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-Mr. Carlson stated that the land proposed for the sand excavation has been Orange
groves since the 70's. This led Mr. Carlson to believe that there may be different
conditions than in the lakes it was being compared to. He was also concerned about
ignoring the fetch plan. If the fetch plan needed to be removed from the code or if it
needed to be rewritten, then he believed that this was not the committee's decision to
make. Based on what he had seen in the presentation, he did not see anything that
compelled him to approve the plan under the third option.
-Nick Stewart, Stewart Earthmining, stated that there is a central Florida Ridge of high
quality sand that runs through Florida. The tail of the ridge is located at the proposed
site. He explained that this is very coarse, high grade silica sand that is used in the
manufacturing of concrete, mason sands, and beach erosions. The top 15 ft is fine sand
that does contain some clay material. Any nutrients that would be in this area would be
in the top 15ft and therefore removed as a fill source. This is a dredging operation; it
does not require any de-watering. The material would be pumped through a processing
plant.
-Mr. Carlson was concerned that there may be clay-lense or aquacludes that could affect
the recharge. He noted that the nutrients from surrounding groves would also affect the
quality of the lake and its recharge. Mr. Carlson was uncomfortable making a decision
on this, since they did not have enough information on the topic and they were not
experts in this area. Mr. Humiston noted that he was also concerned about the nutrient
recharge, because with no wind blowing across the top layer there will be a gradual
gradient where the temperature drops the further down one goes. The cold, dense layer
can cause low dissolved oxygen levels on the bottom of the lake. He believed that this
was a good basis for the reasoning behind the fetch formula and noted that he would be
uncomfortable voting in favor of something that went against it.
-Mr. Langford referenced Dr. Reed's book: "Ecology of Inland Waters and Estuaries",
which explains that the density gradient is a self perpetuating barrier to the mixing of
water. He felt that the information provided, demonstrated that the fetch formula was
incorrect.
-Mr. Sansbury stated that he was concerned that if they dug that deep, they may "punch"
through something that would have a cause and effect someplace else. He then asked if
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this was within the Eastern Lands and if it was an SRA. Fred Reischl stated that it was
within the Eastern Lands, but it has not been designated yet. Mr. Sansbury felt that if
they built a larger littoral shelf, they may create a "win/win" situation, where the lake
could be dug to 85ft and the land will retain developable value in the future.
-Mr. Stewart stated that they permit the entire track as-seen, but ultimately this is
probably not the way the lake will end up. He explained that they are property owners to
the lake and they recognize the back-side value of properties, but they do not want to
create the appearance that they are a developer instead of an earth mining business.
-Mr. Hughes agreed that test cores needed to be done in the area to check for aquifers and
sink-holes. Mr. Hughes then asked the petitioner if he would be willing to donate the
property to the county after their primary uses had been completed. Mr. Stewart stated
that it may be possible, but he could not say for sure because of what they may add to the
tract in the future. Mr. Hughes stated he was alluding to the 20 year plan for fresh water
supply for Collier County and the potential for this site to be a reserve emergency water
supply. Mr. Carlson noted that if it became a surface water reservoir, it could be
dangerous by affecting the water levels of Lake Trafford. He reiterated that this is an
example of why they should not be making a decision on this matter without professional
studies to follow.
-Mr. Carlson asked why staff recommended approval if the fetch formula was "law". Mr.
Chrzanowski informed him that there is a third option, which says that if the petitioner
can prove that the proposed lake will not degrade the water quality, then it will be
allowed. Mr. Chrzanowski added that he spoke with Terry Bengtsson at the Water
Management District, who was not concerned about the depth.
-Mr. Gal stated that there is no basis to deny the petition because the petitioner presented
their side of the story and there was no one saying otherwise.
-Mr. Chrzanowski stated that there used to be a Dr. Daniel Jackson on this board and the
Dr. Reed, referenced earlier, used some of Dr. Jackson's work in his book. Mr.
Chrzanowski asked Dr. Jackson if he had a problem with this and Dr. Jackson would not
say that it was a bad thing. Mr. Chrzanowski added that he couldn't find anyone to tell
him that it was a bad idea.
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-Mr. Carlson and Mr. Humiston felt that the petitioner had not presented a thorough
comparative water quality study. Mr. Stewart stated that the closest similar lakes, that
were not lakes owned by their competitors, were in Polk County. The 10 year sand lake
that they used in their presentation is in Polk County, but it is the closest lake of a
comparative nature.
-Mr. Sansbury asked about the permitting requirements of the district. Mr. Chrzanowski
stated that he did not believe they had a depth requirement, but he noted that this project
will have to go through the district for their review. Mr. Stewart added that they also
have to receive an environmental resource permit from the state of Florida and they have
to get industrial waste permits.
-The committee asked Mr. Chrzanowski if they could ask the district to come to the next
meeting and discuss this item. Mr. Chrzanowski stated that he could ask them.
-Mr. White stated that staff recommendation 7-2, proposes that they waive the excavation
permit public hearing. He did not feel that this would be possible, and if they approved
this conditional use, they would have to remove this item. Mr. White noted that this
change would mean that the excavation permit would come before the committee for
further consideration at a public hearing. Mr. Chrzanowski stated that there is no
difference between the conditional use and the excavation use, except that the excavation
has to notify all the neighboring property owners. The neighbors have had a property
owner's meeting. Mr. Chrzanowski asked if the committee wanted him to repeat the
notification procedure. Mr. Sansbury felt that the first notification was sufficient.
-Mr. Gal made a motion to approve the petition.
Public
Speakers
Ralph Brookes stated that although he is not against this mine in particular, they
are fighting the deep mines in Lee County. They are fighting the 85-90ft mines
on the grounds that they are mining out potential recharge sites for the county
aquifers, digging to 100 ft connects the water tables for the superficial water
aquifer with the sandstone aquifer, and the blasting done to get to this depth is
disturbing the neighbors and their properties.
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-Mr. Gal stated that his motion stands, because adjoining landowners were notified, but
did not appear and staff cannot find anyone to oppose this project. Mr. White stated that
in section 3.5.22 of the LDC, it says that in order to issue a commercial excavation
permit, the division administrator and the EAC must consider and approve it. Mr. White
noted that the EAC does not have an excavation permit before them, and this could not be
legally sound because it waived the requirements of the LDC. Mr. White believed that in
order to approve the permit, they needed to have a subsequent noticed hearing, consider
the permit, and then approve or deny it. He noted that they could not waive this
requirement, 7-2, so this staff recommendation should not be included in the motion.
-Mr. Gal amended his motion to approve the petition with the removal of the stipulation
in paragraph 7-2.
-Mr. Carlson stated that he did not support the motion because the burden of proof was
on the applicant and he did not feel that the applicant provided enough proof for the
committee to be comfortable with an approval.
-Fred Reischl noted that 5 votes were required to forward the item with a
recommendation to the board. If the item does not get five votes, then it is forwarded
with no recommendation. Although it is not an official recommendation, staff will
inform the BCC of the vote.
-Mr. Gal's motion was recalled. There was no second to the motion; the motion failed.
-Mr. Carlson made a motion to continue this item to the next meeting, invite
representatives of the Southwest Florida Water Management District, the Department of
Environmental Protection, and any other agencies involved in the permitting of this
project to speak on the matter, and request that staff provide more information and proof
that this is as "benign" as the applicant proposes. Mr. Sansbury added that this motion
would be with the understanding that there would be two things occurring at the meeting,
approval of the petition and the review and approval of the excavation permit. Mr.
Humiston seconded the motion.
-Mr. White stated that the EAC's meeting must be noticed to the neighbors. He did not
feel that the original notice was sufficient. Mr. Carlson amended his motion to include
the request that the neighbors be re-notified.
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-Mr. Sansbury stated that his employer may own property next to this land and he was
not sure whether there was an effect on his employer's property or not. On "the
appearance of a conflict", he abstained from the vote. Mr. White provided Mr.
Sansbury with the appropriate forms to fill out.
-The motion was recalled. The motion passed, 4-1 (Mr. Gal was against the motion and
Mr. Sansbury abstained from voting). Mr. White noted that since there were not 5
members in favor of the motion, it would not be forwarded to the BCC as an "official"
recommendation.
VI. Old Business
-There was no old business to discuss.
VII. New Business
A) Consideration to schedule a separate meeting date in October to hear the
Cycle 3 LDC amendments
-A separate meeting was set for the third amendment cycle of the LDC on
October 6, 2003 in the BCC chambers.
VIII. Council Member Comments
-There were no council member comments.
IX. Public Comments
-There were no public comments.
X. Adjournment
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-There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was.
adjourned by order of the Chair at 11:33AM.
Collier County Environmemal Advisory Committee
Chairman Tom Sansbury
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