PARAB Minutes 09/28/2016MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION
ADVISORY BOARD
Naples, Florida, September 28, 2016
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at2:00 P.M. at North Collier Regional Park, Administrative Building,
15000 Livingston Road, Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Edward "Ski" Olesky
Murdo Smith
Rebecca Gibson-Laemel
ALSO PRESENT: Barry Williams, Director
Jeanine McPherson, Assistant Director
Miguel Rojas Jr., Administrative Assistant
I.Call to Order: Chairman Olesky
Chairman Olesky called the meeting to order at2:03 p.m.
Pledge of Allegiance and Invocation
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited and Invocation was held.
Approval of Agenda
As Quorum was not established, approval of the Agenda could not be voted upon.
New Business
a. Naples Cricket Club: As Quorum was not established, the presentation by Naples
Cricket Club was given as informational only and this topic will be added to the
October 2016 Agenda for discussion by the group.
Mr. Gayan De Silva of the Naples Cricket Club began by showing a video describing the
game of cricket; the world's second largest sport, and its growing popularity on college
campuses throughout the United States. Mr. De Silva pointed out that Broward County
has hosted several international tournaments, with VIP tickets selling as high as $250 per
ticket, with capacity crowds. Sarasota, Tampa, Orlando, Miami and Ft. Lauderdale also
have cricket leagues, and are bypassing Southwest Florida to travel to these sites to play.
These various sites, however, do not have lighted fields for play, which are available in
Southwest Florida. Mr. De Silva proposed construction of a "pitch" or pitching surface
to play on a lighted field, so as to host tournament play. Mr. De Silva pointed out the
benefit of tourist dollars from visiting teams and their families, who would stay the entire
weekend for tournament play. The Naples Cricket Club currently has 300 family
membership and it continues to grow. Members of this club play cricket each weekend,
year round, purchasing field play and lights time from various parks in Collier County.
Mr. De Silva stated he has a contractor contact who is familiar with proper pitch
construction, and that construction of the pitch would come with a20 year warranty,
with minimal damage to an existing baseball field.
A question was raised as to the size of area needed to construct the pitch. Mr. De Silva
stated 55 yards, however would be able to work with a larger or smaller area. He
proposed artificial turf, which would require less maintenance and would be unnoticeable
by anyone playing baseball on the field.
A question was asked of Ms. Jeanine McPherson as to whether a pitch had previously
been constructed at Eagle Lakes Park in the past. The answer was yes, however the pitch
was constructed of clay and was washed away by storm damage. Further, the softball
field at Eagle Lakes Park was not large enough for the pu{poses of cricket play. Mr. De
Silva stated that a baseball field was of adequate size, as it was larger than a softball field.
Mr. Barry Williams stated that a conversation has been had with Mor-Sports, the
company who refinished the courts for pickle ball, who offered to construct a more
appropriate pitch. Concern was expressed as to how this would or would not interfere
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with baseball play. Interest was expressed in investigating this issue. Pelican Bay was
suggested as a possible suitable location; however, that facility has no lights.
The question was asked as to how much usage the Eagle Lakes baseball field gets. Mr.
De Silva expressed concem at the Eagle Lakes location because of high use by soccer
players, which could potentially damage the pitch.
The question was asked as to how much usage the Golden Gate Community Park
baseball fields have. The answer was that there is high usage of those fields.
Ms. McPherson stated that baseball fields with lights can be found at three locations in
the county; Veterans, Golden Gate, and Eagle Lakes Parks, with Eagle Lakes being the
least utilized.
A concern was expressed regarding maintenance around the pitch and its effect on the
safety of playing baseball on the same field. Mr. De Silva assured the group that regular
maintenance would be adequate, with no extra measures required.
A question was asked as to future recreational facility sites where cricket play could be
incorporated. Mr. Barry Williams stated that short and long-term plans need to be
considered and incorporated into future projects. Mr. Williams suggested the topic of a
home field for cricket play be discussed further at the next meeting as old business.
The question was asked as to whether a temporary pitch could be installed at Eagle Lakes
Park baseball field. Mr. Williams suggested that a representative from Mor-Sports be
present at the next scheduled meeting to discuss this issue. Mr. Williams stated that the
option that required the least maintenance would be ideal.
Mr. De Silva again expressed concem at the potential damage caused to the pitch by
soccer players and Ms. McPherson stated a solution would need to be explored as to how
to secure the area. Mr. Williams pointed out that the staff at Eagle Lakes Park could help
to manage some of those issues.
Further discussion was had regarding the Pelican Bay location and whether Association
approval would be required prior to usage. Also, safety concems were discussed with
cricket play and surrounding homes.
Mr. Williams stated this issue could be discussed further at the October meeting, which
would occur after the new budget year. A question was asked as to whether pitch
installation would be funded by Tourist Development or the Parks Department. Several
options were discussed and Mr. Williams stated this would be researched further. Mr.
Williams will provide information as to current usage of the park at Eagle Lakes
prior to board endorsement.
Current lights and grounds fees were discussed. It was pointed out that these fees are set
forth by the County Commissioners. A question was asked as to whether sponsorship
could be obtained to help offset the cost of these fees for the Cricket Club members.
Mr. De Silva stated that sponsors do pay for equipment, but the club will pay for the
lights and ground fees.
Mr. Williams reiterated this topic would be discussed further at the next meeting in
October.
b. 2016 AUIR: As Quorum had not be established, an in-depth discussion was deferred.
A question was asked as to whether the City of Naples and City of Marco Island were
being considered in the inventory. Mr. Williams stated they've always been counted,
however don't factor in to the level of service requirements. Mr. Williams stated there
were ways to improve revenue in regional parks and those options were being considered
further.
A question was asked as to whether the Golden Gate Golf Course could be purchased by
the county to be made a municipal golf course that would charge reasonable greens fees
year round. Mr. Williams stated he has been asked to present this issue to the Board in
January 2017, after the new Board members are in place. It was discussed that this issue
has arisen multiple times through the years, with the decision not to pursue it. Mr.
Williams suggested he would bring the presentation to the PARAB prior to being
presented to the Board of Commissioners.
Ms. McPherson stated that she had researched municipalities who are running golf
courses in Florida, as well as counties in the area. She stated the key to success was
investment in golf course condition. Other factors included having a pro shop, club
house, and possibly a restaurant. A city was found to be more likely to operate a golf
course than a county. Most of the courses surveyed were subsidized. Marketing
strategies are critical to remaining competitive.
c. Fee Policy: A question was asked if last year's fee policy included pickle ball and the
answer was yes. A discussion was had regarding court fees for exclusive use for pickle
ball versus walk-ons, as well as the annual membership fee.
A question was asked regarding the fee policy split of 65/35 and whether or not there
would be greater instructor participation if the fee split changed to 70130. Ms. McPherson
stated that instructors set their own prices and as such, did not feel a fee chang e to 70130
would be impactful.
Mr. Williams stated discussion was underway with regards to a better definition of
"corporate membership" in offering a discounted rate for fitness center membership.
This topic will be discussed further at the next meeting in october.
d. Parks and Recreation Master Plan: This issue will be discussed at the next meeting
in October.
v.Adopt a Park Reports: Mr. Murdo Smith presented the results of site visits to three
separate parks.
a. Max Haas site visit was completed on 0911612016 at 9:00 a.m. The overall
impression was favorable. The park was found to be well maintained and well used.
Short-term recommendation was made to replace the hand dryers in the men's room at
the ball fields. Signs at the tennis courts should be replaced with permanent signage
instead of paper signs. The pavilions in the park require pressure cleaning, as well as
pressure cleaning the tennis courts and area around the community center. The lights in
the park require painting. The roof at the maintenance area requires repair. One dugout
roof needs woodwork repair.
Recommendations for long term changes were to move the clay and sand pits from in
front of the maintenance area to provide better access, increase the size of the
maintenance area, and repair the floor and ceiling at the basketball courts, where there are
damaged roof braces. Mr. Murdo had also made a suggestion to site maintenance to
check the overhead light fixtures and brackets. Mr. Murdo suggested adding maintenance
staff.
Community feedback was positive regarding the basketball pavilion, playground and
fields.
b. Golden Gate Community Center site visit was overall favorable.
Short term recommendations were made to pressure clean the community center exterior,
as well as to clean the floors inside the community center. The gym walls require
painting. A peg board behind the south basketball goal in the gymnasium requires repair.
Pressure clean and repair the pavers in the patio area on the north side of the community
center. Lights in the back parking lot behind the facility need to be cleaned. Clean and
repaint the amphitheater inside and out. Repair some of the partitions in the restrooms
inside the community center.
Suggestions for long-term changes include repainting/resealing the gym floor. Construct
restroom facilities outside the facility by the playground. Installation of a maintenance
facility at Wheels for equipment storage.
Concem was expressed at the use of mulch as the safety surface at a new playground
being built. The playground was designed with a rubberized surface for ADA access and
Mr. Murdo felt this material was preferable to mulch. Ms. McPherson pointed out that the
GGCC has the highest injury rate of the various centers, specifically with regard to
broken bones. Mr. Murdo countered this was due to the rubberi zed material 6eing only 2"
thick and not the recommended 3" thickness. Mr. Williams suggested looking at the
entire project, assessing needs, and them moving towards a decision.
Staff was assessed to be positive and helpful. Community feedback was positive.
Increased maintenance staff was recommended.
c. Golden Gate Community Park site visit was overall favorable.
Short term recommendations were to repair the racquetball walls, refinish the floors and
repair the walls of the restrooms by the racquetball courts, replace vents in the restrooms
by the ball fields and racquetball courts, address the mahogany tree roots in the islands of
the parking lot, address uneven concrete tripping hazard in the main pavilion pool area,
remove or repair the old concession stand by the kiddie pool, repair the rough concrete by
the shower and the handicap lift chair, install new portable stairs in the shallow area of
the pool, and repair the vanity in the men's restroom.
Suggestions for long-term changes were to redo the locker room floors in the pool
complex, redo the tiled areas of the showers in both locker rooms, resurface the plunge
pool, address rusting around the drains on the bottom of the main pool, installation of
bins for sand and clay, and expand the maintenance facility. A general recommendation
was made to improve the overall park due to age.
The dog park was favorably reviewed and seen as a positive addition to the park.
A suggestion was made to add pads on top of the concrete at the base of the 3 meter
diving board due to potential slip and fall hazard from the stairs of the diving board.
d. North Collier Regional Park: A site visit was conducted by Ms. Rebecca Gibson-
Laemel. The issue of whether the fields should be grass or turf is still under discussion.
The park staff was commended on helpfulness and positivity.
Short term recommendations were to pressure clean the concrete areas around the fields,
which is already underway. The bathroom doors at the Sun-N-Fun facility should be
replaced and the cost from previous bids for this project was discussed. The concession
areas at the softball and soccer fields require deep cleaning and old, unused equipment
needs to be addressed. The water fountain in the playgro.,nd area required repair.
Concern was expressed at the benches in the playground area, which are of rough wood.
Excessive tape marks were found on all of the shade structures. The use of trees versus
shade structures was discussed, as well as locations.
The recommendation for long-term improvement was a resolution of the issue regarding
field surface.
Concern was expressed about the long lines to enter Sun-N-Fun. The new software for
taking payment at the facility was discussed, as were peak hours.
Overall, public comments were found to be extremely positive.
e. Immokalee Community Park: Chairman Olesky reported that lights at the pool need
to be replaced, as well as mahogany trees in the parking lot are blocking the lights.
VI. Director Highlights - Mr. Barry Williams discussed that a feasibility study is being done
considering various sites to be used as potential sports tourism venues. The results of this study
are expected to be available in several months.
The need for greater beach access was discussed, with the option of potential parking garages
having been met with neighbor opposition. A proposal is being drafted for presentation to the
TDC (Tourist Development Council) of a beach circulator, whereby CAT buses would transport
beachgoers to and from the beach from designated locations. The previously vetoed option of
expanding the boardwalk at Clam Pass was discussed, with expansion of existing paths currently
being explored. The Conservancy argued against this option however, stating there was no
evidence of an access issue. The issue of deficient shuttle service by the hotel at Clam Pass was
discussed. The concern was that the hotel shuttle travels straight to the beach and does not
frequently stop at the turnaround, leaving beachgoers waiting. Mr. Williams stated he would
discuss this issue directly with the hotel.
VII. Public Comments: Ms. Gibson-Laemel shared an email she received from a Collier
resident who expressed a desire for the county to use beach access fees as revenue to construct
parking garages. An idea was discussed of the county possibly purchasing property along the
beach in order to construct beach access parking lots. Mr. Williams has crafted a scope
regarding greater beach access, which will be presented and reviewed by the Advisory Board for
input.
VIII. Adjournment: With no further issues to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 4;02 p.m.