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BCC Minutes 06/15/2017 B (Budget Workshop)June 15, 2017 Page 1 TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS Naples, Florida, June 15, 2017 BUDGET WORKSHOP LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as have been created according to law and having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in BUDGET WORKSHOP SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Penny Taylor Andy Solis Donna Fiala (via speakerphone) William L. McDaniel, Jr. Burt L. Saunders ALSO PRESENT: Leo Ochs, County Manager Nick Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager Mark Isackson, OMB Director Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney Revised w/name corrections) NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING Notice is hereby given the Board of County Commissioners of Collier County will conduct Budget Workshops Thursday, June 15, 2017 and Friday, June 16, 2017, if necessary, at 9:00 a.m. Workshops will be held in the Boardroom, 3rd Floor, W. Harmon Turner Building, Collier County Government Center, 3299 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, Florida to hear the following: COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FY 2018 BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULE Motion to allow Commissioner Fiala to participate via telephone—Approved 4/0 • Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Fiala Thursday, June 15, 2017 9:00 a.m.: General Overview— County Manager Ochs presented and Budget Director Isackson provided additional information. Courts and Related Agencies (State Attorney and Public Defender) — Court Administrator Chuck Rice presented for the Courts and Related Agencies. Staff Present: Judge Christine Greider, Public Defender Kathleen Smith, State Attorney Steve Russell, and State Attorney's Office Executive Director Debbie Stanbro. Growth Management— Jamie French, Growth Management Deputy Department Head presented for Growth Management. Staff Present: Ken Kovensky (Operations & Regulatory Management Director), Gene Shue (GMD Operations Support Director), and Jay Ahmad (Transportation Engineering Director). Public Services— Steve Carnell presented for Public Services. Staff Present: Kim Grant (Community & Human Services Director), Twyla Leigh (University Extension Services Director), Amanda Townsend (Museum Division Director), Darcy Andrade (Domestic Animal Services Director), Sean Callahan (Operations & Veteran Services Director), Michelle Arnold (Director of Public Transit & Neighborhood Enhancements; Page 1 June 15,2017 Improvement Districts & MSTU's), Tanya Williams (Library Division Director), Stephanie Vick(Public Health Division Director) and Barry Williams (Parks & Recreation Director). Speaker: Scott Burgess, Chief Executive Office of the David Lawrence Center Lunch Recess 1:00 p.m.: Constitutional Officers: Elections — Supervisor of Elections Jennifer Edwards presented the Elections' Budget. Staff Present: Melissa Blazier, Chief Deputy Supervisor of Elections, Alex Breault, SOE Executive Assistant. Clerk of Courts — Clerk of Courts' Budget presented by Crystal Kinzel, Chief Deputy Clerk. Staff Present: Raymond Milum (Clerk Accounting Manager) Sheriff— Sheriff Kevin Rambosk presented the Sheriff's Office (CCSO) budget. Also recognized: Chief Bloom, Chief Hedberg, Chief Carter, Chief Roberts, Chief Smith, Chief Williams and Andrea Marsh (CCSO Finance Director). Administrative Services— Len Price presented for Administrative Services. Staff Present: Jeff Walker (Risk Management Director), Amy Lyberg (Human Resources Director), Dan Summers (Emergency Services Director), Mike Sheffield (Communications & Customer Relations Director), Chief Tabitha Butcher (EMS Director), Mike Berrios (Information Technology Director), Ted Coyman (Procurement Services Director), and Mario menendez (Fleet Management Director). Public Utilities — George Yilmaz (Department Head of Public Utilities) and Joseph Bellone (Utilities Finance Operations Director) presented for the Public Utilities Department. Staff Present: Margaret Bishop (Facilities Management Project Manager), Dennis Linguidi (Facilities Management Director), Dan Rodriguez (Solid & Hazardous Waste Management Deputy Department Head), Amia Curry (Utilities Finance Operations Manager), Steve Messner (Water Division Director), Toni Mott (Manager, Property Acquisition & Construction Maintenance), Craig Pajer (Project Manager, Public Utilities Engineering), and Miguel Carballo (Manager, Facilities Management). Page 2 June 15,2017 Debt Service— Corporate and Financial Management Director Mark Isackson presented for Debt Service: General Governmental and Collier County Water-Sewer District. Management Offices (Pelican Bay) — Neil Dorrill presented for Pelican Bay Services. Speaker: Dr. Joseph Doyle—concerns regarding Pelican Bay Special Assessments County Attorney — County Attorney Jeff Klatzkow presented for the County Attorney's Office. Board of County Commissioners — Budget Director Mark Isackson and County Manager Ochs answered questions from the Commissioners. Public Comment— Spoke during department presentations Adjourn Page 3 June 15,2017 June 15, 2017 Page 2 MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, you have a live mic. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good morning. Good morning. This is a sunny Thursday morning, which is lovely in itself, and we're here to talk about the budget. But first, I think, before we continue -- Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: There she is. She is recuperating quite nicely from a very successful knee operation. And, ma'am, we need to, I've been told, make a motion here to allow you to participate by phone. So if I could ask someone to make a motion. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So moved. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Second. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. We have a motion on the floor and a second. All those in favor, say aye. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Aye. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Those opposed, like sign. (No response.) CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you, ma'am. You are now involved in the meeting. And I don't know if you know, but we have two of our commissioners that are in their summer jackets, so -- COMMISSIONER FIALA: I noticed. It looks pretty nice, too. MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, would you like to begin with the pledge this morning? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I would, yes, sir. Commissioner Fiala, would you lead us in the pledge, please. COMMISSIONER FIALA: I certainly will. (The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.) June 15, 2017 Page 3 COMMISSIONER FIALA: Excuse me. I just dropped something. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You were standing, ma'am? Were you standing? We have some doctors here, so they probably are a little askew that you've been standing. But thank you very much, Commissioner Fiala. MR. OCHS: You ready, Madam Chair? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: We are. General Overview MR. OCHS: Good morning, Commissioners and members of the public. Welcome to your FY2018 Annual Budget Workshop. In terms of the format, Commissioners, what I'll do this morning is to begin with a brief general overview of the highlights of the proposed 2018 budget, and then you will have a series of presentations by all of your chief operating departments and divisions and members of the judiciary and, ultimately, this afternoon, your constitutional officers, and we'll allow plenty of time, of course, for Board discussion and questions. So with that, ma'am, I'll get right to it. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: One housekeeping item. We're going to do exactly the same thing we did on Tuesday where Commissioner Fiala's going to have a hard time pressing her buzzer from her home. So what we'll do is just -- I'll go down the line and ask if there's any questions. Thank you very much. MR. OCHS: Very good. Commissioners, at its core, a budget is simply a plan to spend and to allocate a finite number of resources against a variety of competing interests in terms of services and programs and projects all intended, June 15, 2017 Page 4 ultimately, to achieve the goals and objectives that this board has established for our community. But in our agency, the annual spending plan is just part of a larger integrated plan of management, operation, execution, and performance management. And I wanted to just begin by kind of setting that foundation this morning, especially for a few of the new board members so they have a sense of how we operate throughout the year and that this budget document, this spending plan, is by no means a static document. It is something that is dynamic, and it's flexible, and I want you to know that you have that kind of flexibility throughout the year. But in terms of our planning cycle and our execution cycle, of course, it begins with the adoption of a strategic plan, and this board, on February 14th of this year, reviewed and ultimately made some modifications and adopted your 10-year strategic plan, and that, of course, is a plan that the Board develops its mission for the community and attempts to identify the major goals and objectives necessary to achieve that mission. From that strategic plan, your staff then develops a series of five-year business plans and annual operating plans. Those plans, of course, are developed by staff in the form of programs, capital projects, services all designed to achieve those primary goals and objectives outlined in your strategic plan. That planning document is then cascaded down to this spending plan where our board looks at a staff recommendation to allocate those resources in the form of labor and capital expenditures as an attempt for us to implement through projects and services and programs, your primary goals and objectives for the community. Once those plans are in place, then we cascade those down to each employee in your agency in the form of annual performance plans that are developed with their chain of command, and they are June 15, 2017 Page 5 monitored on a regular basis. We have a program in place where we meet twice a year with all of our employees to check their progress against the goals and objectives in the performance management plan to make sure that we're tracking and that we're going to achieve the success that we had identified in that plan. So that's kind of the integrated cycle of planning, and it forms pretty much the foundation of the way we operate and where the annual spending plan fits within that cycle. Your strategic plan is built around six strategic focus areas, and the request and recommendations that you'll find in your budget document and that you'll discuss over the next day, and potentially a couple days, is our attempt to make recommendations that will allow us to achieve the multiple program project and service objectives that are embedded in these six key strategic focus areas that are outlined in your strategic plan. So everything that we're recommending to you today and in your budget are essentially designed to accomplish one or more of these six primary strategic focus areas devoted to quality of place, growth management, community, health, wellness, infrastructure and capital asset management, economic development, and governance. So let's take a closer look at your budget process. Commissioners, just real quickly, I want to just talk about a couple of the key milestones in your annual budget calendar. It began in February with the adoption by this board of the budget guidance document that the staff brought to you and basically provides the guiding principles under which we've developed this budget. Of course, we're at the point now where we're going to have the workshop to consider some of those spending plan recommendations. On July 11th, your final board meeting before your break, in accordance with Florida Statutes, we'll ask you to adopt the maximum tentative millage rates for your FY18 budget. June 15, 2017 Page 6 Over the summer the Property Appraiser will prepare the TRIM notices and send those out. And when you come back in September, you will hold two statutorily required public hearings that will culminate in the adoption of your FY2018 budget on September 21st. And those dates have already been reserved and advertised. Commissioners, your FY18 budget was developed within a context of what I would characterize as a relatively strong and stable regional economic environment as embodied by these following trends and indicators. I will note that your countywide taxable value has increased slightly over 8 percent, and this represents the sixth consecutive year of tax-base growth. Consumer spending is up again in Collier County, as evidenced by your taxable sales. Year over year, from February of '16 to February of '17, we've seen an increase of roughly 2 percent year over year. Median home prices remain strong. There was a slight decrease earlier last year. Those have rebounded a bit, and your median home price is still well above $400,000. Sales taxes and state-shared revenues remain steady and are projected to remain so for the immediate future. Your peak season visitation to the destination remains strong. The April 2017 destination or visitation has increased 2.8 percent year over year, and visitor spending is up 5.7 percent for that same period; almost $220 million. Your monthly building permitting activity remains strong with over 260 permits issued year over year from April of '16 through April of '17, and your unemployment rate has trended down slightly by six-tenths of a percent. Let's talk about a few of the noteworthy features in this 2018 budget proposal. Commissioners, your budget guidance that you gave us in February has essentially been met for the ad valorem supported June 15, 2017 Page 7 county manager operations. That budget has increased about 7 percent, and we'll talk about that in a little bit more detail in just a moment. Your General Fund millage rate for your operations has remained at millage neutral at 3.564 mills; however, I will point out that the rate did increase by a quarter of a mill on top of that as a result of the direction earlier in the year by the Board to restart the Conservation Collier program in Fiscal '18 with that quarter-of-a-mill levy. Your Unincorporated Area General Fund tax rate remains the same as it has been for several years, and it features a 0.8069 rate for your operations and a marginal rate of .09 to maintain the median landscape Capital Improvement Program that the Board initiated in last year's budget. Your General Fund and Unincorporated Area General Fund reserves continue to grow, and we'll talk about the importance of that in just a few minutes. Your principal debt and its annual debt service continues to decline. There is no new debt planned in the proposed FY18 budget document. But, again, you have that flexibility at any point in the year if you deem that that is necessary. Now, the budget does contain a number of expanded personnel and appropriations aimed primarily to now staff new capital facilities that came online during the current year. An example of that would be the new aquatics facility that is under construction at Eagle Lakes Park that will be in operation in Fiscal Year 2018. You've continued to make strong commitments to public health, safety, and welfare services, and this budget includes an additional $300,000 appropriation in support of the David Lawrence Center over and above your statutorily required appropriation for that mental-health service. As the Board had directed earlier in the year, $75,000 has been June 15, 2017 Page 8 allocated to help with wildfire mitigation services through the State Forestry Service. Your -- and this is something I think is important, and we'll talk about it in more detail as we move through the day. We continue to make a strong emphasis and an effort to get after the backlog of capital infrastructure and equipment that was deferred over the course of the recession in the mid 2000s. That is something that we'll have to get at over time on a pay/go basis. This budget commits additional funding in the amount of almost 45 million, $46 million to address not only your current capital initiatives but also to get at some of the deferred capital asset replacement that resulted from the recession. You also have dollars earmarked and dedicated for vehicle and heavy equipment replacement. Those are funds that are fenced off and not available for any other purpose to make sure that we can replace our rolling stock when required. And, finally, we have, again, as approved in the budget guidance document in February, included a well-deserved employee compensation adjustment for your workforce. Commissioners, as I mentioned, your taxable value continues to trend up for the sixth consecutive year. You can see the rollercoaster ride in those bar charts that we've been on since 2007 when taxable value was peaking at an unsustainable rate of 25 percent all the way to the depths of negative 12.2 percent in FY11 and now, back over the last several years, into positive territory. The State Revenue Estimating Conference, who convened in 2016, is projecting taxable value growth in Collier County to continue over the next five years. So that's just a projection, but it beats the alternative. I mentioned your millage rate history. You can see here both for your General Fund and your Unincorporated Area General Fund that from Fiscal Year '10 through Fiscal Year '17, your General Fund June 15, 2017 Page 9 millage rate at 3.5645 has remained constant despite increased pressure for service demands and cost of operations and capital. For FY18, you will notice an increase to 3.8145. That is the quarter-mill increase associated with the restart of the Conservation Collier program. On the right-hand side of this slide shows the history of your property tax levy for your Unincorporated Area General Fund. Again, FY10 through '16, that millage was .7161. In the current fiscal year, the Board had restarted your median landscape program that required a nominal increase to get your millage back up to .8069 which was the millage, as you can see, that was levied in your Unincorporated Area General Fund way back in Fiscal Year 2007. Let's take a look. This is a busy slide. I apologize, but there's a lot of good information in here. I wanted to go over a few of the highlights of the budget proposed for FY2018. With your millage neutral operating tax rate in the General Fund, you will raise an additional $22 million. When you add that to the quarter-mill increase to fund the restart of Conservation Collier, those will total in summation almost $42 million. Millage neutral continues to be levied in your Unincorporated Area General Fund. And as I mentioned, most of that going to support operations and capital transfers with a nominal portion of that, almost $5 million, allocated exclusively to rebuilding and completing your median landscape plan and then for ongoing maintenance for that new capital expenditure. You have approximately 40 new FTEs proposed in your budget, and we'll go through those in detail as each one of the operating units comes up and briefs their budget. As I mentioned, we've devoted a large portion of the new dollars available in this budget, in excess of 45 million, to capital improvements both for new growth-related improvements and also to June 15, 2017 Page 10 get at the backlog of deferred asset maintenance and equipment replacement. And that next bullet talks about the continued investment that this board has made in high leverage, high proprietary capital improvements primarily focused around public infrastructure and public safety infrastructure, including the completion of the 800 megahertz P25 public safety communications system, continuing to replace old ambulances. The final allocation of a multi-year plan to fund the purchase of a new helicopter; the construction of a new EMS station, and continued improvements for sheriff facilities and new voting machines along with a series of transportation-related improvements to roads and bridges and streetlights. Commissioners, I wanted to point out just briefly that the General Fund transfer contribution to the Naples CRA has increased by $471,000 in the FY18 proposed budget. Now, that is driven in large part by the quarter-mill increase in the tax rate. Just an anomaly of that is if that was voter-approved millage, I'm advised that that doesn't require that additional contribution, but when it's a part of just your normal levy, that translates into an additional transfer to that CRA. Commissioners, water and sewer rates are adjusted by 2.9 percent based on the Consumer Price Index year over year December to December, and that has been an ongoing Board budget policy. Tipping fees have increased by that CPI adjustment. Your mandatory solid waste residential assessment fee is scheduled to increase by 9.3 percent or about $1.41 per month. This will offset increases in your collection and disposal cost, and we'll talk about that in more detail when Dr. Yilmaz and his staff come up. Your building permit fees are actually decreasing in several areas, and we spoke about that Tuesday when the staff made that particular presentation. June 15, 2017 Page 11 Commissioners, I mentioned about the strong investment that this board has made and continues to make in capital improvements, and this is a slide that just breaks down some of the primary expenditures proposed in your FY2018 budget and kind of compares that against the appropriations that were approved in the current year's spending plan. You can see both for -- whoop. Sorry, Mark. I'm pushing the wrong button. Other way. There you go. Got ahead of myself. You can see that overall spending for capital, both backlog deferred capital and ongoing current capital needs, has increased by more than $5 million from the current budget to the proposed budget in 2018, and those include construction of a new EMS station, a large transfer to get at some of our badly needed road and bridge improvements. All right. Commissioners, I mentioned we had 40 expanded position requests in this budget. They break down as indicated in the second to the last column on the right. These are the expanded position requests in our agency as well as in the constitutional agencies. Forty (sic) of those are within the County Manager's agency, another 10 come from constitutional officers, specifically the Clerk's Office and the Sheriff's Office. And, again, each one of those will be briefed as they come up and present their budgets. Most of those expanded requests, as I mentioned, are either needed to staff new facilities that are coming online in 2018 or to meet additional service demands. Commissioners, in your budget guidance in February, we requested an adjustment of 3 percent into the compensation program for Fiscal Year '18 2.9 percent of that would represent a general wage adjustment for your workforce, and six-tenths of a percent would be reserved for individual pay plan adjustments to maintain our competitiveness with our market set. I will tell you that as the economy continues to improve, not only June 15, 2017 Page 12 in Collier but around the region -- and we've seen this trend many, many times. As the economy improves, more people are getting hired in the private sector. We always get a raid on our staff by the private sector, and it escalates into a little bit of a competition, and wages and benefits are certainly part of that equation. So we believe this cost-of-living adjustment is important to remain competitive in the workforce, in the workplace. I'm pleased to report that your healthcare program, your self-funded health insurance and disability program is doing very well. It's actuarially sound, and there is no employee or employer premium increases proposed in your health program for Fiscal Year 2018. As you know, there's been a long-standing board direction to cost share those health insurance costs between the Board and the employees, and that has traditionally been an 80/20 split. Your agency, the Clerk of Courts, and the Supervisor of Elections continue to abide by that. The other agencies have not -- have not complied with that particular allocation. Commissioners, all in, your county net budget is about $1.15 billion proposed for Fiscal Year 2018. It's about a 10 percent increase overall. And let's just look real briefly at the primary sources of revenue to fund that budget. Those include -- ad valorem taxes represent about 32 percent of that revenue; your gas and sales taxes are another 5 percent; about 19 percent of that revenue is raised through service charges for water and sewer service, ambulance fees, your collections for solid waste pickup and disposal; 31 percent is designated carryforward in over 200 funds within this budget; 5 percent is about the carryforward for your General Fund budget. And that's -- COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Madam Chair, could I ask a quick question? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Of course. Of course. June 15, 2017 Page 13 COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: In the 10 percent increase, does that include the Conservation Collier component? MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And without that, it would be, what, 7 -- MR. OCHS: Mark, do you have that calculation? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- percent? MR. ISACKSON: Significantly less; let's put it that way. MR. OCHS: We'll get that for you. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: All right. I'm just interested in how much that -- MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, contributes. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I have a question. The carryforward, that's encumbered, is that correct, your carryforward? MR. ISACKSON: It's part of the budgeted revenues which rolls into the FY18 fiscal year. So it is programmed revenue carrying forward from prior fiscal year. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. MR. OCHS: And we looked at the primary sources of the revenue to fund that net budget. Now let's take a look at where that money is appropriated. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Before you go on there, I just -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Go ahead. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That was a very -- very good question that you asked, and Mr. Isackson is busy right now. He didn't answer your question as to whether it's encumbered or not. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: It's programmed. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Being programmed and encumbered is, to me, two different things. I mean, there's an allotment there, but an encumbrance is -- you don't have a lot of discussion about. Programming is -- to me, personally, programming June 15, 2017 Page 14 allows for discretion with regard to the utilization of those carryforwards. Am I correct? MR. OCHS: Yeah. I think, Commissioners, what you're asking is, do you have flexibility on how that money is programmed. I would say in your General Fund, certainly, you do. In your other funds -- in other words, you couldn't pluck carryforward out of your tourist development tax funds and transfer those over to help your General Fund, for example. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Understood. MR. OCHS: So that is the difference. When you look at the designated carryforward, that's a large number, and that's spread around a number of funds, including your water and sewer and other enterprise funds that you can't transfer to your General Operating Funds or your Unincorporated Area General Fund. But there is, again, 58 million in carryforward in your General Fund that Mark said is programmed to support the budget request inside your General Fund and your Unincorporated General Fund. But if you decide you don't want to fund some of those programs or you want to fund other programs at a higher or lower level, you certainly have that flexibility to do that today. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And I didn't mean to interrupt, but I wanted to -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: My perception of your question apparently was different of than yours, and I just wanted a point of clarification with that. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah. No, I appreciate it. Thank you. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Absolutely. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Commissioner Fiala, are we okay? Any questions, ma'am? COMMISSIONER FIALA: I just have a couple, actually. June 15, 2017 Page 15 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Please... COMMISSIONER FIALA: My first one was, are you still putting aside money and are we pretty close to the end for the EMS helicopter? MR. OCHS: The answer to that is yes and yes. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, good. Good, good. MR. OCHS: We've been putting away about a million to two million a year. I think this year we'll have about six-and-a-half million in that fund, which is close to getting us where we need to fully fund a new helicopter to replace our old one. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, that's just great. And my second question is about hurricane preparedness. We've all heard the predictions that are being mentioned in the newspaper as well as on the news itself. And I was just wondering, as usual, if we've put aside money for hurricane debris removal and maybe excess just to make sure that in case we just happen to have one this year we're prepared for it. MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, we are. We set aside reserves, not only statutorily required reserves, but we have additional operating and capital reserves that we establish just for those very reasons. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Great. Thank you very much. MR. OCHS: Thank you. Madam Chair, I'll move quickly through the rest of this. Again, in terms of your net budget, we've looked at the primary revenue sources. These are the primary categories of expenditure. County Manager Agency operations is about a quarter of that budget, your Public Utility operations is about 22 percent; constitutional officers represent about 18 percent of that net budget spend; your debt service is approximately 6 percent; and you see that a large component, almost 29 percent, devoted to capital improvements. Well, let's take a -- that was your net budget all in. Let's take a June 15, 2017 Page 16 look at your General Fund now. Your 2018 requested General Fund budget totals $432,846,700. That represents about a 12.2 percent increase from your FY2017 budget. Commissioner Saunders, this might help answer your question. About 4.6 percent of that overall increase in the General Fund is connected with the restart of Conservation Collier. This is a quick pro forma of the primary increases in the General Fund budget both on the expense and revenue side from your current budget to propose for '18. On the left-hand side is the expense category. You notice the large numbers there are the reestablishment of Conservation Collier at $19.7 million, the transfer of new money to the constitutional officers of 13.3 million, most of that to the sheriff. Those two together represent almost 33 million of the 46 million increase year over year. There's another five or six million in new capital project appropriations as well. On the revenue side, obviously, we're heavily reliant on property tax revenue to fund the General Fund; 42 million increase when you, all in, include all your operating millage increase as well as the new revenues that would come from the quarter-mill levy for Conservation Collier restart. I spoke at the beginning about General Fund reserve growth and the importance of that. This bar graph, I think, demonstrates our staff's commitment to grow reserves. It's very important to have adequate reserves in your budget for the type of flexibility that we talked about. The General Fund reserve is something that the rating agencies look very closely at when we go out to borrow money and to establish our bond ratings. Because of the good work that this board has done over the year to establish adequate reserves, we have a high Triple A corporate credit rating; the highest you can get in the industry. It's also important to note the General Fund is the cash flow engine, and we need to make sure we have adequate reserves to fund June 15, 2017 Page 17 not only our operations but the constitutional officers during the first few years (sic) of your fiscal year before your tax revenues are collected and transfers back from the Tax Collector to your operations. Obviously, as Commissioner Fiala mentioned, they're also necessary and important to have in the event of unforeseen emergencies or unforeseen mandates from the federal or state government. I know that never happens, but it could. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Never. MR. OCHS: Or maybe you need a new helicopter midyear or something like that, so that's why you need these reserves. It's a good thing. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. MR. OCHS: We talked about your debt service and your total county debt. You can see that there's been a concerted effort and a steady decline in your outstanding principal debt all in for county government. We're now down to 421 million of principal debt. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Can we go back to that slide, sir, please. MR. OCHS: Yes. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think it's very important, and I will say this as long as I'm up here, when we started to reduce the debt, when the recession hit. That speaks volumes of the ability and the talent that have managed the county's budget through this very dark period of Collier County's history. Thank you very much. MR. OCHS: Oh, you're welcome, ma'am. So the annual debt service that's required to service that debt, the Board has an established policy that essentially says the ratio of your general governmental debt to your total bondable revenue should not exceed 13 percent. You can see both in the narrative and by the bar chart that we're well within that 13 percent cap. Actually, 6.2 percent June 15, 2017 Page 18 of -- in Fiscal Year '18 is the total bondable -- the ratio of that bondable general governmental revenues to annual debt service. So we're doing a good job of staying inside that 13 percent cap. Let's look briefly at your primary General Fund revenue sources. You can see the very heavy reliance on ad valorem taxes, 68 percent -- yeah, 68 percent of your revenues to fund your General Fund come from ad valorem property taxes. When you add in the other 5 percent that's in the '18 budget for Conservation Collier restart, which is also property tax revenue, you can see that we're around 73 percent. So we're heavily reliant, I would suggest probably overly reliant on that one source of revenue to fund your General Fund operations. Sales taxes represent about 9 percent of that, and your fund balance, your beginning balance, is about 12 percent of your General Fund revenues going into '18. This is another snapshot of those. You can see that your ad valorem dollars are up. As I mentioned, about $42.9 million in '18, including 20 million of that for the Conservation Collier restart. Your sales tax dollars are essentially flat, as are your State Revenue Sharing Funds. Gas taxes are up about a million dollars from 2017. Impact fees, which is an indication of the growth in the construction industry here in the county, are up about six-and-a-half million dollars, and that provides some additional revenue for growth-related capital improvements. Still, obviously, well, well below the historical high back in 2007. And then I mentioned your General Fund beginning fund balance or carryforward is about $51 million, representing 13 percent of your forecasted 2017 expenses. Let's talk about your Unincorporated Area General Fund again briefly. That is the areas that are paid by property tax owners that don't live inside the corporate limits of a city; so City of Naples, City of Marco, City of Everglades would not pay your Unincorporated Area June 15, 2017 Page 19 General Fund tax levy. Now, that General Fund budget is increasing about seven-and-a-half percent from FY2017. That's a function of the increase in the taxable values and a level millage rate. Your capital transfers in this fund are up substantially by over a million dollars. Almost $1.3 million in your reserves have increased in this fund by a half a million dollars. Again, the pro forma that identifies some of the primary changes between the current year and the proposed 2018 budget on both the expense and revenue side in your unincorporated area. There was a transfer of your operations expenses for your stormwater out of a capital fund and moved more correctly into the 111 fund. You also have large transfers for capital projects in parks and transportation and stormwater programmed on the expense side in 2018. As I mentioned, the revenues for your 111 Unincorporated Area General Fund are primarily funded by ad valorem taxes and your communication services tax, which is constantly under attack in Tallahassee, and we're actually behind the revenue of the current year by about a quarter million dollars next year. This is a breakdown of a typical unincorporated area residential tax bill for the current year. Again, we do this just so the public understands that the County Commission and county government is just one element of the tax bill and is, by no means, the highest levy in your annual tax bill. You can see that county government accounts for about 20 percent of that typical unincorporated area residential tax bill; your constitutional officers, another 15 percent; the school district represents 44 percent of that expenditure; independent fire control district's about 10 percent; and you have about seven-and-a-half percent of expense for county MSTUs. Those are service enhancements that neighborhoods or areas decide to tax themselves for to enhance service levels. June 15, 2017 Page 20 Commissioners, I'll close with just a few cautionary notes about some of the current and future challenges that we're always keeping our eye on. As I mentioned, because we're so reliant on property tax and state-shared revenues to fund our General Fund -- and some of the attacks on that revenue stream that we constantly fight in Tallahassee. In fact, as you all know, the legislature approved a voter referendum for next fall that would allow, essentially, the public to vote to lower their property taxes again through an additional homestead exemption. So those kinds of things that affect the revenue stream of ad valorem taxes are always concerning to us, and we'll continue to point out potential other alternative revenue sources that can help diversify that revenue stream. We also have, obviously, the ongoing need, which is a challenge for the staff and the Board, is to take a finite amount of resources and be able to allocate that not only to get at the backlog of capital maintenance and equipment replacement, but also to fund your general operations and environment of relatively high growth and high customer demands and have the asset management in capital for new growth-related capital going forward. We talked about no budget or -- excuse me, no borrowing is programmed into your 2018 budget, but we will be talking to you about getting positioned to do that in 2019, and the timing of any of that capital financing, for us anyhow, is always predicated on do we have a good estimate of the cost of the project, are we able to execute it within the period of three to five years, which is usually when we're required to expend proceeds from some type of a financing instrument, and we'll be making sure that we have all of those in place before we come to you with any recommendations to borrow money. Again, I mention the competition in the labor market, and we're going to continue to monitor that and make sure that we're doing everything we can to maintain a competitive wage and benefit package June 15, 2017 Page 21 for our workforce. I mentioned the equity issue in employee and employer health insurance. What I meant by that was there are a few of your constitutionals that the employer portion of the insurance premium is covered almost exclusively by the employer with very little employee contribution, and that's a bit of an inequity as opposed to the policy in your budget guidance. We mentioned monitoring federal and state unfunded mandates, and we'll continue to do that. I wanted to mention that your Unincorporated Area General Fund, which historically had funded operations in your parks and your code enforcement and some of your other operating areas, is becoming more and more of a funding source for capital projects. And as the growth moves from west to east, I think we're going to see more and more pressure on the Unincorporated Area General Fund to provide capital improvement dollars. And as I mentioned, finally, there's always the need to balance the desire on the staff's part to grow your reserves to make sure the Board has adequate flexibility to address unforeseen conditions against the -- you know, the challenges of keeping up the day-to-day operations with more people coming to the community and the demands for -- high demands for service. So, Commissioners, I'll just conclude by telling you that the -- in our view the 2018 proposed budget meets your guidance, it maintains the General Fund operating millage rate. It does also include a quarter-mill increase for a restart of the Conservation Collier program consistent with this board's direction earlier in the year. We've increased General Fund reserves by over $5 million; continue to attempt to allocate dollars for employee compensation adjustment consistent with the cost-of-living increases. We continue to maintain a compliant debt position that continues to decrease. We believe we've June 15, 2017 Page 22 addressed the state and federal unfunded mandates, and we'll continue to do that through adequate reserves. We've enhanced your front-line operating services, placed a priority on expanded operations and allocations to your asset maintenance and replacement program. And with that, again, I'm pleased to open it up to questions. I'm sorry it took so long. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders, any questions? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: One question, but first, very well done. That's a very thorough description of the budget, and I think certainly sets the stage for us to go into the details. So I want to thank you for that very fine presentation. MR. OCHS: You're welcome. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just one little technical question. On the communication services tax, I thought the legislature had held local governments harmless on the cut so that your revenue from that would not be decreased. MR. OCHS: Mark, do you want to address that? MR. ISACKSON: Sir, they have. I'm just being real cautious. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. So that 250- may not really get -- MR. ISACKSON: We actually may tick above our neutral position in '17, this year. But I just like to be a little cautious on that because, you know, there have -- every year there's discussion about -- but, you're right, there has been -- at least the legislation that's been considered has held the municipalities and local governments harmless, but you never know. That could change. MR. OCHS: And, of course, sir, as you know with the budget cycles being different at the state and the local level, the state fiscal year starts 1 July, which is the last quarter of our FY18 budget cycle. June 15, 2017 Page 23 So if there was some reduction that came out of legislature and some of that filtered into the last quarter, we just try to be conservative about that. Madam Chair, if there's not any other questions... CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Just -- I've got some as we get more into the details, but I'm just curious if, in your opinion, we're too reliant on the ad valorem taxes, are we going to have a discussion as to how to address that, or when would we have that discussion in terms of what we're doing today? MR. OCHS: Well, Commissioners, yes. And to your credit, as a board, you've begun those discussions. In the fall we're going to be coming back to you with the second stage of a board-approved feasibility study on the potential for implementing a stormwater utility fee. That is a fee that, if it gets implemented, will provide some of that diversity in the revenue stream and take some of the pressure off the General Fund and the Unincorporated Area General Fund ad valorem revenues that have been applied historically to the capital and the operations of your stormwater system. So that's an example. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. MR. OCHS: Commissioner Taylor mentioned at the board meeting on Tuesday that the Chamber of Commerce, I believe, is doing some work on the potential for some type of a public vote on the potential of a sales surtax. And, again, that again would take pressure off of your ad valorem revenues; allow you to, perhaps, offset your -- or lower your property tax millage in favor of an increase in revenue from state sales taxes. So those are the kinds of alternative revenues that I think we're going to continue to remind you to consider and you have looked at so far. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you. June 15, 2017 Page 24 MR. ISACKSON: Just, if I can, County Manager, there's been a number of national periodicals that have suggested that on a net budget basis your ad valorem taxes should come in around 25 percent. We're at 30 right now. And within the General Fund, you're at about 70 percent right now, and that should be roughly 50 percent. So there are some benchmarks to go off of in terms of the national averages when it comes to these types of revenue sources and their makeup. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? Any questions, ma'am? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, ma'am, I have none. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Commissioner McDaniel. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Just as a matter of semantics, when we go through the more detailed portion of our hearings here, are we going to have discussions about the sales tax collected, gas tax collected, how much of that gets shipped to Tallahassee, how much of that do we, in fact, get back and what we're due, and are there mechanisms that we can do to increase our revenues other than just increased taxes? MR. ISACKSON: Well, I'll answer that question by saying, sir, that you're a donor county, number one. There's -- you don't have a point of sale, as Commissioner Saunders will certainly note. You ship money out. So you're kind of landlocked in terms of sales tax. And there's a very specific and complicated formula that the state uses to distribute sales tax and to distribute revenue sharings, so there's not much we can do about that. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Other than fix what's going on in the legislature. MR. ISACKSON: That's my suggestion. MR. OCHS: Yes. The other component of that, real quickly, June 15, 2017 Page 25 unlike that general sales tax formula, I believe that a sales surtax, you know, you keep that revenue, or most of that, here local, and it doesn't go through that same distribution formula. So you really recapture all the money that's being paid locally and it stays here in that type of a sales surtax as opposed to the general sales tax, which Mark says goes all up to Tallahassee, goes through this complicated formula, and then it gets reallocated out, and we're typically a donor in that regard. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: We all had the pleasure of watching that machine -- MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- this past spring, so -- and it wasn't for us. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Is that all, sir? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So are we going to be talking about those in more detail later on as to how that very complicated formula is ascertained and how much of a deficit community, in fact, are we, and are we going to have further discussions on those things? MR. ISACKSON: You can talk about it, sir, but my answer's going to be the same. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I understand. And if this is not the time nor place, then I'll corner you -- MR. OCHS: No, that's fine. I will tell you honestly, you know, the budget briefings that we're prepared to give on the details of our recommended spending plan doesn't really anticipate a long discussion about the state sales tax formula. There's not a lot we can do about it today. I mean, we can lobby the legislature, but -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I understand. We do put forth budget initiatives and lobby initiatives on an annual basis -- MR. OCHS: Sure. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- when we're outside of this session. And I don't want to take a lot of time; I just want -- I want the June 15, 2017 Page 26 public to know that there are other mechanisms and revenue streams that can come to us that don't necessitate raising your tax. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Those state formulas, though, they're there to protect us from Dade, Broward, Palm Beach County. The large counties would gobble up everything if it wasn't for those. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I understand. MR. OCHS: And we can note that in your upcoming legislative priority agenda that we'll be discussing with you as soon as you get back from your summer break, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. MR. OCHS: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: And then I just -- oh, I'm sorry. You finished? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I am. Well, for now. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Just a question that -- I don't think it should be now, because I think we need to discuss the budget in detail, but at the end of whenever this is, today or tomorrow, I'd like to talk a little bit about the initiative of the Chamber of Commerce and their -- their ambition to put a sales tax surcharge, sur -- MR. OCHS: Surtax, yeah. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- surtax on the 2018 agenda. But we don't have to do -- I don't think it's appropriate now; is that correct? It's not -- MR. OCHS: Well, no, ma'am; it's not your initiative. It's not mine. I can call the, you know, representatives from the Chamber and ask them to be here at the appropriate time, but I don't want to speak for them. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. That would be great. Thank you. MR. OCHS: Thank you. Madam Chair, if it's okay, we can move forward. June 15, 2017 Page 27 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think so, yeah. MR. OCHS: Thanks so much. And I'll turn this over to Mr. Isackson to take us through the rest of the agenda. MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, County Manager Ochs. Courts and Related Agencies (State Attorney and Public Defender) The first up is our court system. If you could step up, Chuck and Mr. Russell and the folks. While they're coming up to the podium, I might say that my office, Clerk's finance, really enjoy our relationship with the court system. They have and we have continued to work budget magic in spite of Article 5 revenues and the unpredictability of the Article 5 revenue process. So my thanks to the Court system for their work and their diligence. So with that, I'll turn it over to Chuck. MR. RICE: Thank you, Mark. Good morning, Madam Chair, Commissioners. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good morning. MR. RICE: Commissioner Fiala, I'm glad to hear you're doing well. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you so much. MR. RICE: For the record, my name's Chuck Rice. I'm the Court Administrator here in Collier County. Make some introductions. Here to my left is our Administrative Judge, Judge Christine Greider. JUDGE GREIDER: Good morning. MR. RICE: To my right is our Public Defender, Kathy Smith. MS. SMITH: Good morning. MR. RICE: And to her right are State Attorney Steve Russell, and to his right is Debbie Stanbro (phonetic) of the State Attorney's Office. June 15, 2017 Page 28 MS. STANBRO: Hi. MR. RICE: So, again, we all want to thank you for your continued support of the court system and Leo and Mark and their staff's help throughout the year on this. And Mark is correct, we do enjoy a great working relationship with them along with the Sheriff and the Clerk and everybody involved. You know, sometimes it takes a community, and we're all in with that. I'm happy here to present a budget that meets compliance while providing the highest level of professional services at the lowest possible cost to the taxpayers. We're presenting here today a $5.4 million budget for a net cost of $2 million to the General Fund. Although it's a small percentage of the budget -- you saw on one of Leo slides, we're less than 1 percent of the overall budget; however, we do take it very seriously and try to be fiscally responsible and good stewards of the county's money. You know, it's an exciting time here in Collier County in the criminal justice system. I know that the commissioners had a workshop last week on mental health and addiction that was well attended. We had a symposium yesterday with David Bennett on a long-term range strategic plan for a master plan and the jail population. Some recommendations that came out of that, I'll come back -- circle back on that, because at this point our presented budget has no expanded FTEs, but we may be, as a group, the State Attorney, Public Defender, and Court Administration, may be requesting an expanded position upon his recommendation, which is three FTEs for specialty court coordinators. One for the State, one for the Public Defender, and one for the courts. That's basically to help expand the program, get people in there quicker, and accomplish a lot of the things -- COMMISSIONER SOLIS: The treatment courts. MR. RICE: The treatment courts, yes. That entails -- Judge Martin oversees them: Drug court, mental-health court and our June 15, 2017 Page 29 veterans court. Judge Greider used to have a great part with the drug court in the past also. But they're outstanding programs. Not only is the court system excited about it and the State and Public Defender as a unified process, but even the stakeholders. I mean, with the direction this board and the interest the Board shows, David Lawrence Center, other stakeholders in the community are excited about this time here. So we are in the forefront here. A brief overview of what we do in the courts. Basically, we meet all of the best practices set forth by the National Center of State Courts. We have a unified family court system fully in place here, thanks to Judge Greider. She implemented that and saw that through. She also serves on the Supreme Court Committee on long-range strategic planning on unified family court, families and children. We have a full-blown case management system in all of our courts, and that's basically holding our judges to time frames, you know; see if they can meet those standards and putting the attorneys and everybody involved, the State, Public Defender, on time standards. And I can tell you, in our criminal courts, we monitor that, and we're meeting over 80 percent of those time standards, which is the benchmark; 80 percent is a success. We're over that. You know, we had -- you know, David Bennett, the consultants, raved about Judge Martin and her demeanor with our specially courts. What a job she's doing. We want to give her more work; that's why we want these case managers. Let's get some more people in there and help her. Your Probation Department, County Probation Department, is recognized as one of the most progressive and best in the state. All of our probation officers here in Collier County are crisis CIT trained, crisis intervention trained, that deal with people suffering from mental-health issues that they come in contact with. June 15, 2017 Page 30 We enjoy a great relationship with the sheriff. We're out there checking on them in the field with deputies at night, doing drug screens. We have risk assessment tools in place. We use the criminogenic risk factors. We have a robust diversion program that we monitor for the State Attorney's Office. Right now we currently have 251 people in that diversion program. We have a juvenile diversion program called teen court which not only helps divert some juveniles in the juvenile system, but it's a great volunteer thing also for students that come in and volunteer as judges, prosecuting attorneys, and such. We have a self-help center that was implemented about a year and a half ago. Currently, we're look at probably serving 800 to 1,000 people with that self-help center this year. Those are people that are self-represented that can go in there and get forms and help them through the process of the court system. I would be remiss in mentioning that, you know, when we mention about all this great stuff we're doing, it also has impact on our Clerk, and our Clerk has been terrific in supplying other clerks -- you know, as we expand courts and different things, it impacts them also. So we thank Dwight and his staff for their cooperation and willingness to put clerks in those courts. And with that being said, I turn it over to Judge Greider first for any comments or -- JUDGE GREIDER: I have nothing to add other than a big thank you for the workshop that was initiated through Commissioner Solis to have a real discussion and dialogue about what's happening in the community and how that creates issues that interface with the criminal justice system as well as children and courts. So thank you for the opportunity last week. MR. RICE: Kathy? MS. SMITH: Again, thank you for everything; thank you for June 15, 2017 Page 31 both of the workshops. We really thoroughly enjoyed attending those as well. I actually have the privilege of serving on the Supreme Court Task Force for mental health and substance abuse. So I know that what we are doing in our local communities is really top-notch. But to make it to the next level after our -- after our symposiums the last couple weeks, there would be some extra things that we would add in -- you know, in a world where we could get what we needed. So we've presented our budget today. Again, as Chuck said, it does not include those. I think the direction that we had got from the Commission and from the county was to come as a unified front telling you what we all need. So, respectfully, I would request you look at our budgets but maybe give us a little bit more time to come with a united front as to what we would need to properly and intelligently expand those courts. But thank you for everything you do. MR. RUSSELL: For the record, Steve Russell, State Attorney. I would just piggyback on the comments, not be repetitive. But the primary focus of these specialty courts coordinators which go across drug court, mental-health court, and veterans courts are, again, to attack the root causes of inordinate criminal activity by those individuals suffering from addiction/mental-health problems which are sometimes also related to veteran experience in that regard. So we're trying, bottom line, to quickly move these offenders through the system by assuring that they receive the proper treatment, thereby eliminating costly jail time, but it also allows us to continue to protect the safety of our community and the community in the future by reducing recidivism. Jail cost is inordinate. These are non-attorney positions -- we'll put together the costs -- basically reflecting social work, clinical drug background, that type of person. We have the experience of this coordinator in one of our other June 15, 2017 Page 32 counties within our circuit, and we see it around the state. It's efficient; it's effective; it's a cost-saving measure in the long run. So I just, again, piggyback what Chuck and Kathy said, and that we'll be putting that together and addressing it, and I think it's a good thing for the community. And, again, I, too, for the State Attorney's Office, appreciate the support the Commission has given us with these programs. I think the community, I hope, is understanding the importance of them and the cost effectiveness of them in the long run as taxpayers. MS. STANBRO: I have nothing to add. MR. RUSSELL: Debbie is my executive director and support person. She's the technical. MR. RICE: We'll be happy to take any questions at this time. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I would just add that the symposium yesterday in the jail was fascinating. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: It really was. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It was fascinating, and some of the recommendations that came out of that, you know, I think without that symposium -- or some of them were so counterintuitive, I was just sitting there scratching my head going, wow. You know, the data shows that what we thought would create a good result just had the opposite effect. I mean, the whole issue with the use of bail and -- but, anyway, so I think it's -- it was a wonderful thing. It's perfect timing, I think, as we're moving forward. And, again, I would just point out that, you know, we have an adversarial system, right; we have the State Attorney's Office, we have the Public Defender here, we have the court here, but they're all unified in what needs to happen. So I think we need to pay attention to that. And thank you for everything you do and also being willing to think outside of the box. I mean, I think that was one of the things that June 15, 2017 Page 33 we saw yesterday was we really have to start looking at these things maybe from a different paradigm, right. We have to be aware of the paradigm that we're kind of stuck in. And I think this is one of those areas that's absolutely true, so thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, I have nothing except great report. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. And I just wanted to speak with Ms. -- to Ms. Kathy's statement. We're not locked in at this stage of the game. This is the process. You're presenting your budget. We've got more time. We've got more information coming to us and adjustments along the way. So as additional information, additional needs comes -- I actually wanted to know who set up the seating arrangements today just to make you two sit beside one another, the Public Defender and the State's Attorney at the same time. But I think it speaks volumes as to what information is being provided and how our community is actually recognizing that, though it is established as an adversarial relationship, we're seeing regularly, through communication, that we're all here for the greater good. So, I'm not mistaken in that timing standpoint, am I? MR. ISACKSON: Well -- MR. OCHS: No, you're not. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: About time. That's the first time I was right today. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: What is the time frame? MR. OCHS: Well, I think what the commissioner was saying is, you know, the budget is not over till it's over, and it's over in September when you adopt it finally. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: In September. June 15, 2017 Page 34 MR. OCHS: Now, having said that, in terms of your General Fund and your ad valorem revenue stream, you make that call on the 11th of July in terms of your maximum millage. You can lower it in September, but it takes an act of God to raise it at that point. So in terms of General Fund expenses, you're pretty well locked in on your General Fund, at least in terms of your millage rate, in July. But Commissioner McDaniel is correct, we have time over the summer, and part of the reason for these workshops is if the Board has changes they want us to evaluate, we have the opportunity to do that and report those back out at your first budget hearing in September and tell you, you know, what the impacts of those changes would be. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you. That's the way I was leaning. MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. And, Madam Chair, if I might -- and I don't want to pin you all down but, Mr. Rice, if you have a general preliminary estimate of the amount of additional dollars that might be required to accomplish the objectives that you all have outlined, just for a range so the Board has some order of magnitude. MR. RICE: Well, I can tell you right now we should be able to do this relatively quickly, get our requests and work with Mark's office, but we're looking at three positions for an all-in number of about 186,000. That's for a salary of 38- to 40,000 plus benefits for three positions. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just a couple quick things. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: First of all, I want to thank Commissioner Solis for his leadership on this whole issue of trying to divert people out of the court system, out of the prisons, into treatment that's required and a whole lot cheaper than incarceration. There's a program in Lee County and, Steve, you may be familiar June 15, 2017 Page 35 with it, the Bob Janes Center. MR. RUSSELL: Yeah. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah. I don't know if we have that type of facility here or that type of a program here and, if we don't, what is your opinion as to whether something like that might be viable and valuable? MR. RUSSELL: Kathy's probably more directly familiar with that, but we've had that as one of, hopefully, an umbrella. MS. SMITH: Yeah. Lee County is actually one of the few places that has a triage, and what it does is it actually gives law enforcement officers the option to take someone to jail or take them to a triage unit where they can be assessed for mental health, substance abuse, homelessness issues, and things of that nature. That was one of the things that Mr. Bennett talked about yesterday. It wasn't named triage when he talked about it yesterday, but that was in the concept of what he talked about. He talked about quite a few things, like a community corrections center for people transferring out of jail back into the community but also did talk about that as something that we need. We do not have that currently in Collier County, but it was part of the jail master plan program. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So would it be your general recommendation that that type of a triage facility would be a benefit? MS. SMITH: I think it would be. The community corrections that he talked about is on the back end. This is something that's on the front end where somebody does not ever enter into the jail. It's a situation where they can address those needs there. And they have wrap-around services that deal with all of the issues that brought the person there in the first place, so it's a wonderful concept. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: The other part of that issue is that there is a state agency that funds those. The legislature provides a grant to the state agency, and the agency divvies that up amongst the June 15, 2017 Page 36 triage facilities. I would suggest just -- obviously, it's not going to affect this budget cycle necessarily, but I suggest the staff take a look at that. It's called the Bob Jane's triage facility. It's been in place for many, many years. I think they work very closely with the Salvation Army, and we now have a new big Salvation Army facility that's just opening up. So that may be a way to catch people on the front end as well. MS. SMITH: Right. MR. OCHS: Will do. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. I have no questions. MR. ISACKSON: Thank you. Growth Management Commissioners, if we can, we'll have Mr. French and his leadership team, Growth Management, next. Commissioners, just as a reminder, you have tabs in your book that correspond to the actual presentation sequencing. So -- and also, if there's members of the audience that want to approach Mr. Klatzkow or Mr. Casalanguida with speaker slips, please do so. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Forgot that. Thank you, Mark. Good morning. MR. FRENCH: Good morning, Commissioners, Madam Chair. Commissioners, I first would like to thank the leadership team: Mr. Isackson, the County Manager's Office. Clearly, our work sometimes goes unnoticed other than when you're driving around town and you see a lot of traffic. But no complaints are sometimes good, but no complaints are sometimes bad. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No, no, no. When you drive around town and roads are blocked -- June 15, 2017 Page 37 MR. FRENCH: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- because of construction. I think Commissioner Solis can attest to that. MR. FRENCH: But at the end of day, Commissioners, I'd like to just highlight that the people that aren't represented here, that aren't here with us, are your staff that are back at the office, that are in the field, that are doing Yeoman's work to make sure that we meet board policy, state requirements, as well as federal requirements on a daily basis. And we're very appreciative of our staff and the support that we receive. And if I didn't mention, inclusive of Mr. Klatzkow's office; we truly couldn't do it without him. So we thank him very much. Commissioners, although -- and I don't want to be repetitive of what the County Manager has already said, but although Collier County continues to witness strong growth trends, we have begun to see some leveling off. It doesn't necessarily mean that we're not busy, but when we look at a comparison of our FY16 numbers to FY17, there are only minor or, you know, slight differences. And what I mean by that is when you look at your overall permits, for instance, for development, our numbers are ranging from somewhere between 70 to 80 on an annual basis, increase, but just slight increases. Clearly, we anticipate seeing more of those come in as we see the state make changes to our building codes, as we see state requirements change. There will be a run on permitting during those times, primarily because there's a savings to the developer, and that's not atypical, and it's something that we're geared for. The budget that we're presenting today, it's an overall value of $242 million; 120 million of that is made up of operating, with 123 million, just slightly under 123 million, is made up of our capital. Just to let you know that 58 percent of our operating, which is roughly about $70 million, are made up of restricted-use funds. So June 15, 2017 Page 38 those are funds for building, for land development services that cannot be used for general government funding type purposes. Primarily that 113 is guarded by state statute. Current staffing levels, within this budget we are requesting five expanded positions. Those positions would primarily be with our asset management and our capital management and maintenance programs within the landscape and operations of the capital side of our house. We are not requesting any expanded positions within our -- within our 113 and 131 funds, our Enterprise Funds, as we remain -- as we continue to remain cautiously optimistic, we are fully utilizing job bank staff. We've carried just under 50 job bank staff for probably the last three years. There is some turnover there, but essentially what we gear them up for is we build a bench. As we start to see attrition of our full-time staff, it gives you an opportunity to hire from within. We also have contract labor that the Board has allowed for through contractors such as Nova Engineering, which we have the ability -- in the event of service spike, let's say, or increase in demand, we have the ability to call on Nova, and typically they respond within 48 to 72 hours. The divisions that make up the development services element of Growth Management continue to respond to our development activity while adhering to local, state, and federal regulatory requirements. Our team continues to focus on improving processes, assessing industry as well as community trends, and reducing obsolete regulatory hurdles. And what I mean by that is not so much to help people around the code, but to utilize things like LDC amendments before you as well as our Hearing Examiner's Office. We're exceptionally appreciative of the latest item that was brought forward to you and passed that allowed for our Hearing Examiner to continue on with the Planned Unit Development insubstantial change process. That is a big job, and we work very June 15, 2017 Page 39 closely with our Hearing Examiner and are appreciative of your support. As mentioned earlier, we had targeted building fee cuts that will become effective on October 1st, 2017, that will equate to about a $1.6 million savings to our industry that would be passed down to the customers, hopefully. We are anticipating additional fee adjustments for our land development services, and at that time we may bring back for further consideration potentially some conversion of some of the job bankers that we have if we see any continued growth in those areas. Business activity within those areas, roughly about 40,000 permits, as I said earlier, versus 39,000 the year prior, and we performed 224,000 building inspections. Fifty-three inspectors; great team. Capital projects that we have lined up for the North Horseshoe building. The building was built in 1987; it's 30 years old. We -- for the last couple years we've had on there -- and we plan to execute this year -- replacing the air conditioning system within that building. The ductwork, as you can imagine, does not meet current code, certainly does not meet current efficiency standards. In one side of the building you might find it to be about 70; on the other side it might be a balmy 93. But I will tell you, staff does a great job putting up with it. We also intend to replace our backup generator that would provide service to the entire building versus just parts of the building. And these are out of our Enterprise Funds. There's no impact at all to the taxpayers or to the ratepayers. These are budgeted items that we've planned out over the years. Our GMD capital and maintenance divisions continue to effectively execute a diverse portfolio of countywide construction and maintenance programs. As identified in previous workshops, as well as within our AUIR, June 15, 2017 Page 40 we work within a five-year window. So typically our projects go out five years, we budget up to those, we set aside monies, encumber those monies for future years before we actually execute. Typically, there's a planning, there's a study, and then there's permitting acquisition or the acquiring of right-of-way in many of the cases where we want to execute a project before we go into construction. Now, what we've done in the past -- and my apologies. When David left at the end of March, he didn't leave me a manual on how to -- on how to get this to you -- and I take full responsibility of it. But we have available a 2018 capital projects notebook in the event that any of the board members would like to actually look at our 2018 projects. This goes into much more detail than what the budget allowed, what the budget offers you, but also what happens is these items will actually come back as well within your AUIR. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think that would be wonderful. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I don't know if Sherry's listening. Maybe you can make us a copy, Sherry. MR. FRENCH: We have copies available right now. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, we've got copies here. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I think he anticipated the response. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: What do you mean "what if," right? Thank you. MR. FRENCH: And real quick, let me back up and apologize. To my left is Mr. Jay Ahmad. Jay is our -- Jay is your Director of Transportation Engineering; Gene Shue is the Operations Director for the capital management and construction side; and, of course, to my right is Mr. Ken Kovensky who is the Operations Director, both operations' directors. Ken heads up the -- more the Enterprise Fund for Development Services. June 15, 2017 Page 41 MR. SHUE: And if I might, Jamie. Again, Gene Shue, Operations Support Director. The binder that you have in front of you is something that my folks prepared, and it gets into that five-year plan that we discussed. So you'll see that five-year planning cycle. And the reality is, for a few key areas we go out even further. Coastal zone we go out 10 years; bridges, we actually go out 20 years. You also see in there there are maps that show the location of the proposed FY18 projects as well as the spending or work plan for the subsequent four years within that five-year planning cycle. It's also key -- and I know Jamie's going to get into the details, but it's also key to note that for the FY18 column within those five-year plans, obviously it's balanced because, you know, we're dealing with a balanced budget, what we propose to be funded and what can be executed. What you'll notice in the other four years, sometimes we're upside down, and those are the areas in which we are going to deal with some proposed debt or some proposed extra funding in the case of stormwater with the stormwater utility initiative. So if you look on there, again, you'll notice '18 balanced, you'll see revenues, you'll see expenditures, but the other years you'll see upside down, and notably the bridges. The bridges -- we have 11 bridges east of State Road 29 that are under design. I believe Jamie's group is going to be coming to you soon. I'm sorry? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: East of 951, not 29. MR. AHMAD: East of 29, actually, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Eleven bridges east of 29? MR. SHUE: I think it's actually nine of the 11. There's two that are just west, but it's all in the eastern part of the county. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: There's a map here. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. MR. SHUE: And you'll see all those bridges noted on there. June 15, 2017 Page 42 Actually, you'll see 13 because there were two for replacement in FY18. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I just was -- again, State Road 29 is -- we have 11 -- we have nine bridges east of 29? MR. SHUE: Sure. MR. AHMAD: Yes, sir. MR. SHUE: And if you go to that orange tab -- I'm sorry, it's actually the second tab. It's -- well, whatever color that is. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'll look at it. I mean, you just threw this book at us. I'll look at it. MR. SHUE: You'll see all the bridges on there, and you'll see descriptions of the individual bridges. But, again, two are slated for replacement in '18 -- they're the ones that are not out east -- but there are 11 that Jay's group will be coming to you with a design contract that right now are slated for construction or at least the letting of the contracts in FY19. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: For the public and also for this commission, could you please explain the length of time between the repairs on these bridges, if any, in terms of when they were constructed, if they've been renovated in a time, and why this is so important besides the public transportation. MR. AHMAD: Jay Ahmad, for the record. These 11 bridges actually were built over 60 years old -- most of them are 60 years old or older. They're not major bridges. They're 20 to 40 feet in length. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Out on County Line and Oil Well Road? MR. AHMAD: Correct. That's right. On Immokalee Road east of 29, on County Line Road. Those bridges have been declared -- the FDOT inspects them every two years, and they have shown their age, and we are tending to them. June 15, 2017 Page 43 If you recall, this commission has actually declared an emergency on one of them, and if you look out there, it's being supported by temporary measures. And we're actually looking at them quarterly to make sure that they are in good shape. MR. SHUE: And, again -- and this is part of the asset management process that you folks have heard a lot about and the county, countywide, is investing heavily in. You know, it's all about optimizing these assets. And what you find with the bridges is they're being inspected, I think, twice a year now, and there are steps you can take. You can take some of these wood pilings. You can encase them in concrete to lengthen their life. But that wood can continue to decay. So you're running the risk that these intermediate measures could fail, and then you'd have some more extensive measures. That's why you have to plan these things out carefully. In this case these are bridges, again, that are 60 years old. Had asset management been in place more robustly in the past, maybe this would have been planned a little differently. But the truth is, now we have 11 of these coming due at once, which is why the routine funding -- which we put about $7 million a year towards our bridge repair and replacement program. But when you get 11 come at once, you know, at a cost of three, three-and-a-half million apiece, that's a lot of money. So we're projecting to be short in the $17 million range going out to '19. So that's one of those things that the County Manager and OMB will be coming forward to say, you know, these are supplemental funding needs. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Did you say these are wood pilings? The bridges are built on wood pilings? MR. FRENCH: Some are. MR. AHMAD: Some are. MR. SHUE: Many of which are now wrapped -- encased in June 15, 2017 Page 44 concrete. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: But still, I mean, it's a wood piling. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Sixty years ago. MR. AHMAD: That was the method of construction for piling. Some of them are rotted out to a degree that -- you know, we've been repairing them constantly. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No lighter pine, obviously, right? MR. SHUE: Under the circumstances, it's amazing they've given the service that they have. But, again, it's because staff and outside contractors are constantly monitoring the condition of these bridges. MR. FRENCH: So, Commissioners, if I might, one of the things that Gene did not mention -- that was also roads in future years. Now, if you remember, I brought you an item on the Vanderbilt Beach Road extension. So as we look into '19, probably through '21 fiscal year, there will be -- based off of Board direction, there could potentially be a need for additional debt service that would be required for the construction of these roads. Again, these items will be coming back to you within your AUIR, and if you have any further questions, we're here to answer them now, or we'll make ourselves readily available for you in the future. One thing that I'd also like to mention, with one of our capital projects -- and it doesn't really have much to do with capital, but it does have to do with our operating, and the operating at the airport is projected to be in its fourth year of positive cash flow. So it has not been a burden on the operating side but has been sustainable. There's also been some opportunities. I know from the regulatory side we've had an opportunity to collocate an office there to where we were able to actually have 113 pay their fair share or 131 pay their fair share to rent that office and to help renovation/pay for needed renovations to the building. And cosmetic, but still, brought it back up to Collier County standards, if you will. June 15, 2017 Page 45 I know that limerock roads may be a -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I was wondering when we were going to get to that. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: It sounds like a country western song. MR. FRENCH: What's that, ma'am? Which part? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Limerock roads. MR. FRENCH: Well, I didn't bring my guitar, so -- the limerock road, we do have $300,000 annually that's put towards limerock road conversion. Gene and his team has gone back and looked at what the cost to convert the remaining limerock roads would be throughout the county. That would equate to about $3 million. Now, the payback or the return on investment, we would see that within about six years if you look at the overall maintenance costs that we put into, annually, within these limerock roads if we made that investment. We do know that that's near and dear to Commissioner McDaniel's heart. And I know, in previous years, in my nearly 14 years here, it's always been -- it's always been discussed annually, so... COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Has the rest of the Board seen the analysis that Mr. Shue did? MR. FRENCH: No, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Could we make that available to the balance of the Board digitally? I can have it emailed to you. It's -- we've been talking about this. I've been talking about this similar issue with staff for quite some time, and there is -- it's -- he's done an amazing job. And, as Jamie said, the prior commissioners of District 5 all the way back when -- from when Commissioner Coletta was here -- I have it. Thank you. But this is the gravel roads and limerock roads, per the song title, Madam Chair, have been an ongoing issue for our community for -- since GAC gave us these road right-of-ways, so -- June 15, 2017 Page 46 and I think I heard from Mr. Isackson that the acceleration -- he's hiding -- the man behind the curtain over there. The acceleration of the current 15-year plan for the paving of those roads is not going to require any debt. Did I hear that? MR. ISACKSON: Excuse me, Commissioners. I think if it's -- if it's pay/go'd properly, we could probably cut that down to maybe a three-year duration. That's what I've been talking to Mr. Shue about, provided that the County Manager and I have some discretion in determining how that's taken care of. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That sounds like you need control. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: He wants control. MR. ISACKSON: Sure. MR. OCHS: Yes. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. So it -- MR. SHUE: And just logistically, one year may not work out. The analysis time frame was now versus 10 years. If we do it over three years, it still yields a positive return. It's still cost effective to do that. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I think it was about a 7 percent return when we took it out over a three-year -- in one of your original proposals that you and I spoke about. So it's still a decent rate of return, and it is an elimination of a big issue in our community. MR. SHUE: Sure. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: It's health, safety, and welfare issue. MR. OCHS: So, Commissioners, with your consensus -- and the staff would like the opportunity to look at that in terms of implementation in your budget over the summer and bring back some recommendations along the lines that were just outlined here of a three-year program to get all those bridges replaced on a pay/go basis without incurring new debt. June 15, 2017 Page 47 COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Not bridges. Paving the road. MR. OCHS: I'm sorry. Limerock road paving, yes. I'm still on bridges. Thank you. MR. FRENCH: Commissioners, my only final item, as we look at our challenges and opportunities in the future, one of the things that we're -- we struggle with is the cost of labor, cost of contractor labor, the availability of contract labor. So we are currently looking at our own program to determine -- and I'll give you a great example is concrete, concrete vendors. They're very hard to find, and they're very expensive. It's hard to find a qualified concrete vendor, let's say that, or a qualified concrete contractor. So we're actually looking at and drawing comparables to what would that cost be if we did that in-house. So beyond looking at efficiencies throughout our entire organization, staffing up with the right people when the staffing becomes available, when those opportunities -- we're also looking at how we can capture additional efficiencies and cost savings within our own maintenance organizations to determine how we might be able to be in better control of that as well as we go forward. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: This is more the smaller projects, the sidewalks? MR. FRENCH: Yes, ma'am, that's right. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: The slabs, that kind of thing, walls? MR. FRENCH: This helps us truly avoid the break/fix situation that allows for us to properly maintain our own assets, rather than waiting for something to get so bad that we're in front of you and asking for new debt and on a bridge that is still on wood pilings. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. For a minute there, I thought you were suggesting we operate a concrete mine -- I mean, a concrete -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I was envisioning -- June 15, 2017 Page 48 COMMISSIONER SOLIS: -- production facility. MR. FRENCH: Not there yet. No, sir. No, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: If you decide you want to, I have -- MR. FRENCH: Not at all, and I appreciate the opportunity for the clarification. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I can help you. Well -- and if I may ask him a question with regard to that. You talked specifically about concrete contract -- are you talking about the guys that smooth the concrete, or are you talking about the physical production plants, supplier of concrete and the like? MR. FRENCH: Predominately, because there's such a great demand in the industry. You know, when they bid, we -- those bids change over time. And so we're competing for that same concrete contractor that the industry is. So even though they may bid, by the time we actually get around to hiring, pulling -- for lack of a better term, pulling the trigger to hire that concrete contractor, he's already accepted additional work and he -- no thanks. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: But somebody to do the work, the form work, the finish work, all that, not the -- MR. FRENCH: Right. Thank you. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: -- not supply. MR. FRENCH: The supply is not our concern. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's where I was going, number one. MR. FRENCH: Contractor. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And number two -- and as you're going through that, you know I like cost-benefit analysis. MR. FRENCH: Certainly. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: When we bring on FTEs to June 15, 2017 Page 49 perform work for us, there is an ongoing expense associated with additional health benefits and retirement and things that go on in perpetuity. And we don't want a knee-jerk reaction to circumstances that are going on in the marketplace. MR. SHUE: I anticipate performing that analysis in the next few months. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I would assume so. I'm just asking. MR. SHUE: But, you know, it's interesting because I've only been in the government five years, and in the private world, if you come in way underbudget, it's considered a great thing. Here it means you can't spend your money. You're not executing your mission. And one of the things we look at is how well are we executing. And you look at something like concrete, and we show big savings but, in reality, it's because we can't find vendors to execute the work. And we're taking -- our Road Maintenance Division is diverting folks who were doing things like bridge maintenance, or should be, and they have to work on the sidewalks because, statutorily, if you have a crack in your sidewalk and someone trips, you have big liability. So, again, this is one of those cases where, you know, we're below budget but not for a good reason, and we're looking to say, hey, if we can't get outside contractors to execute the work, is it cost effective to do it in-house? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And that's where we look over at our County Attorney. I had the opportunity to traverse the sidewalks of Tallahassee. Holy mackerel, those things are -- they don't follow the same standards, Gene. Just so you know. MR. FRENCH: Commissioners, we appreciate the opportunity to provide you with this budget information. We're available to answer any questions you might have. June 15, 2017 Page 50 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Well, I was just going to say what a great job I think you're doing and staff is doing. I know -- you know, we've had somewhat of the perfect storm in District 2 recently with all of the projects that are ongoing. And the bridge project, you know, on Vanderbilt Drive, I hope we're still ahead of schedule on that. MR. AHMAD: Yes, we are, sir. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: We are? Even with all the rain? Wonderful. MR. AHMAD: Yeah. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Great job. And a great job keeping the public informed on where that stands, how it's progressing. It's been a great job; a job well done. MR. FRENCH: Thank you. You can continue to count on us for the communication efforts. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders, any questions? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just, I guess, a question that may not be relevant at all to this budget cycle. I think we're going to be meeting to talk about Immokalee Road and the traffic problems associated with all the proposed growth there. So that -- I look forward to that. I appreciate that opportunity to see what, if anything, can be done, because I don't know about anybody else's emails and telephone calls, but that's about 95 percent of my email traffic and telephone calls is due to the traffic on Immokalee Road. MR. FRENCH: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you. MR. FRENCH: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala, any questions? COMMISSIONER FIALA: None from me. June 15, 2017 Page 51 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Just one statement. The landscape maintenance, is that all part of this capital program here? MR. FRENCH: That's correct, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. I would like for us to have a discussion with regard to that. One of the deficiencies that our board, the County Commissioners at large, have is the -- personally we were elected back in November two months into a fiscal year that was already started, and then board policy set by, today, a rather different board, and there were some suggest -- there were some things made by policy of the prior board with regard to an increase in the unincorporated ad valorem rates and devotion of monies to medians and maintenance and the like. And I would like to -- I would like to have an additional discussion with this board along those lines as to those priorities and how they can be managed maybe in a different manner. God bless you, Madam Chair. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Well -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So I don't know if today's the day to do that or if that's something we do throughout the summer and bring it back or... CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: We probably need Commissioner Fiala present. MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. I -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, she's here in spirit. MR. OCHS: Yeah. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, I'm here full force. MR. OCHS: I think maybe a discussion in the earlier fall on that would be in order. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. MR. OCHS: Again, as I mentioned at the outset, this is a -- this budget is always a dynamic instrument, and we've tried to design it to June 15, 2017 Page 52 maximize your flexibility. So if you make a mid-term policy change that affects the budget, we can always deal with that at any point in time. But that's a -- that's a hot topic. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Tell me about it. MR. OCHS: We've spent probably two years before this current board even sat down on this subject, and there's as many opinions about how to design them and what to put in them and how to irrigate them and how to build them as there are people in this room. So we have a board policy on the design standards, best-management practices, and we've been executing on that in accordance with the five-year capital plan that the prior board laid out. So we're executing along those lines until otherwise directed. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Henceforth; that's why we're going to talk about it. MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Job bankers. Do you -- is it -- is it fairly -- I'm going to say it's simple. But you are able to hire who you need to hire with the training you need to have in order to fill the positions you need to fill? MR. FRENCH: Typically, we've become a training ground because -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. MR. FRENCH: -- there is -- even though they do receive healthcare benefit, as well as FRS, they are not awarded the benefit of vacation or sick time. So we look at that primarily as a frontline service where you're getting great customer service. Those type of staff members are much easier to find than let's say an engineer or an architect or someone that -- unless they've retired. And we've gotten some of those. We've been very fortunate in that area. But we like our current program. And what we've done in the June 15, 2017 Page 53 past, as you may remember -- and I know Commissioner Fiala remembers -- is we will come in with midyear reports to you, and at that point we would team up with the industry and the community. We want their support. We want your Development Services Advisory Committee to say yes, you need this, staff. We want -- we want buy-in. We don't want it to seem like we are just artificially growing government for no good reason. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good. And then, Commissioner Saunders, you might be able to help -- I'm sure you will -- with this. But the Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council's future. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Not looking good. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah. And there seems to be a hiatus right now with the arrows and the swords. But Sarasota, what I call the Sarasota option, they determined that they could still be part of the Regional Planning Council but not required to pay the dues. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Was that the City of Sarasota? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Because cities are different than counties in that regard. The counties have to make the payment, I believe, if I'm correct. Cities can opt out. MR. OCHS: Commissioners, I don't mean to interrupt, but I received an email from my counterpart in Lee County yesterday -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: They did that same thing. MR. OCHS: -- and it was a copy of a county commission adopted resolution basically putting the other members on notice that they are opting out. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: The county is. MR. OCHS: I was planning on putting an item on your next board agenda to discuss this and take our board's temperature on where you want to head with this item. June 15, 2017 Page 54 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Are counties permitted to opt out? I was under the impression that they could not. MR. KLATZKOW: Well, I think it's more of a mutiny than anything else. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yes. I mean, I guess the bottom line is the counties could refuse to make the payment. There really isn't any remedy. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Which is a Sarasota -- Sarasota's option was we're not going to pay, but we'll -- and we won't come to your meetings, but consider us a member. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, they're coming to the meetings. They just can't vote if they don't pay. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I think, statutorily, they have to be a member and then -- but if they pay, then they don't get to vote. And that's the rationale when I spoke with the County Commissioners in Lee that they were moving on. MR. OCHS: That's the research we're preparing for the staff. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right, fine. So you might have a budget amendment. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And I have one other quick question, if I may. I looked at my notes for Mr. Jamie before -- and I know we've got to go to break. It's a quick question. I couldn't find anything in here -- and there was some discussion with regard to the interactive growth model. And I couldn't find -- is it appropriate in this budget for the expansion of that model for our future land use planning? MR. FRENCH: Sir, it is. And for sake of time, I did not go through and mention. But you approved a midyear staff adjustment. That planner would be hired after October 1st. They would be -- they June 15, 2017 Page 55 would be assigned to the interactive growth model as well as all future comp use or comp planning amendments of those times that would in our future use planning side of the house. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And the money necessary for the enhancement of the model for the entire county is a portion of that midyear? MR. FRENCH: Yes, sir. Mr. Kovensky has worked very closely with Mr. Bosi and his staff -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right. MR. FRENCH: -- and we are geared up and ready to go. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Outstanding. I just -- when I was perusing, I couldn't find it. MR. FRENCH: My apologies. I know it was important to you, and I did have it in my notes. But just for sake of time, I didn't mention it. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Got it. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So we're going to take a 10-minute break, get back here at 10:55. We'll give you an extra minute. Thank you very much. (A brief recess was had.) MR. OCHS: Commissioners, you're back on live mic. We're moving next to our Public Services Department presentation. Mr. Carnell. Public Services MR. CARNELL: Good morning, Commissioners. Steve Carnell, Public Services Department. Pleased to be here this morning, and I brought our management team with us, a few of my closest friends. And I want to take a moment to tell you a little bit about what we June 15, 2017 Page 56 do. We are a little bit unique in the sense that we have eight very front-facing high-visible divisions in the county, and I thought it best to have everybody here this morning. I'm going to keep our comments short and to the point, and I'll cover the major ground, and they can help with any questions that you may have. Just -- I'll do this -- I'll start by telling you that we are primarily funded in our operations through the General Fund and through the Unincorporated General Fund, and our budget request before you this morning, for the General Fund, our costs are going up 2 percent for our current level of service, and then we have, in addition to that, some expanded service and new services that we want to present to you this morning, and they cover four of the different divisions. And so I'll tell you more about those in a moment. In the unincorporated area are -- we have a five-and-a-half percent increase, and that includes current service and our expanded services as well. We are adding six positions or asking for six new positions on the General Fund side and eight new positions in the Unincorporated Fund. And that Unincorporated Fund, the bulk of the increase there, and the entire increase for the staffing, is for the operation of the new Eagle Lakes pool, which we are scheduled to bring online in May. So those -- we've got those two areas, and then in addition to that, as we've already talked about this morning, we have Conservation Collier, or the restart of Conservation Collier, in which the operating budget does include two additional positions to support the acquisition process and continue the ongoing maintenance of our 19 sites, and we'll talk a little bit more about that in a moment. So that's where we are at a very highest level. I'll begin by just introducing you to my team as we go down one by one here. At the far end is Kim Grant, the Director or our Community and Human Services Division. And many of you know June 15, 2017 Page 57 that Kim is bringing forward her team, working with the community stakeholders group and the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee bringing forth a community housing plan to this board that will be coming for your consideration in September. And FY18 is going to be focused on the implementation and roll out the next steps of that plan. Also in the budget, and it's shown under CHS, is a $300,000 increase in funding for the David Lawrence Center. We currently provide the David Lawrence Center a little over $1.6 million in operating support. And we've put that number in there in support of the discussion that may be forthcoming today regarding mental health and the services that David Lawrence provides. I will tell you upfront that number's not fully vetted. It's a number that we put in place in anticipation of what the needs might be. And I think you're going to hear this morning from Scott Burgess as a registered speaker, and potentially some of our other mental-health providers as well. So I would encourage you to hear from them after we've finished our comments and you asked your questions. Then next to Kim to Twyla Leigh. Twyla's our recently-hired director of University of Florida Extension. She began with us in October. And University of Florida Extension is a jointly funded endeavor funded by the University of Florida and Collier County. And Twyla is fortunate enough to have two bosses, one in Gainesville and one here. And she does a great job of bringing things together and make all that work. I think if you've been reading the papers lately and you followed the special legislative session, you may be aware that the University of Florida took quite a bit of hit in cuts in funding in the IFAS programs, particularly with 4H statewide. We have a very robust 4H program; have over 7,000 young people participating in it each year. We don't know what the operational impacts are. At the moment, the core service that we provide in Collier is June 15, 2017 Page 58 un-impacted. It will be covered sufficiently in the budget that we've presented to you, but we do need -- there are going to potentially be -- some impacts statewide in terms of some of the camps and activities that students in Collier County attend may be eliminated or curtailed, but we just don't know yet. We're still working with Gainesville to find out more about that. Next we have our newly hired museum director. I say "newly." Amanda Townsend came on board in January right at the beginning of 2017, and Amanda has gently pointed out to me that since her appointment -- this was January 2017 through May of 2017, that our rate of visitors, our visitation at the museums have gone up 30 percent compared to the first five months of last year. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Congratulations. MR. CARNELL: And I'm sure she's not claiming all credit for that. But in all seriousness, we've done a -- we're pleased with that outcome. And I'll mention that 60 percent of the people that visit our museums are from out of town; that would be tourists, okay. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Would you say that again, please. MR. CARNELL: Tourists, yes. And while we're kind of on that vein, we're in the process right now of entering an agreement with the Southwest Florida Heritage History Association to do some redevelopment work of the baggage car at the Naples Depot train station, and we're going to be working with the Naples Chamber of Commerce to redevelop that site as a visitors center for tourists at the Naples Depot. I just wanted to mention that, okay. In addition to that, the museum is going to be hosting the Florida Association of Museums annual state conference in Naples in September, and there will be over 300 people attending that conference. Most of them are visitors from outside the area; tourists. Okay. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: And they'll be staying in places like June 15, 2017 Page 59 hotels. MR. CARNELL: Yes. Places where tourists stay, that's right. And I know that Mr. Wert is especially pleased, because we are bringing in a tourist activity in one of the lowest months of the year for tourism. All right. So enough about that with the museum. In addition to that, Amanda's staff is approving -- is pursuing a grant that the Board approved on Tuesday; $480,000 worth of funding to do some historic renovation work at the Robert's Ranch. I wanted to call that out because that's a credit to Amanda for looking for other resources and other revenues and support areas to enhance the facilities in our museum system. So we're pleased with where we're going, generally, with the museums. Something else I should mention; you'll be seeing a coming attraction. You'll be seeing an agreement shortly in which we're going to be entering into a loan agreement with the Smithsonian Institute to bring the Marco Cat back to the Marco Island Historic Museum, and that's going to take a bit of time for all that to happen. Budgetarily speaking, in Fiscal Year '18, we're going to be preparing the site to receive that exhibit, and that's going to be including installing a new generator and meeting some other requirements that the Smithsonian has pursuant to that loan agreement. But you'll be seeing that loan agreement shortly. I think we're going to get it to you before your break this summer. That's what we have with the museum. Domestic Animal Service. This is Darcy Andrade. Darcy's been our director now for about three years. And DAS is in a position -- very interesting story. We continue to have a lot of success in our DAS operation. I mentioned to you last summer when we talked about the budget that six out of seven animals that come into the shelter go home to families. And right now that number's running close to 90 percent, or it would be eight out of nine, if you will. June 15, 2017 Page 60 We continue to build our what we call our live release rate. And we're very pleased about that. And a lot of it has to do with the hard work of Darcy and her staff but also the partners that we work with in the community, with the rescue groups that we team up with to divert animal traffic and to educate and to aggressively adopt out animals as quickly as we can into good homes. DAS is in the third year or will be -- in the coming budget year, will be in the third year of a three-year plan to upgrade operations and facilities, and this was a plan that was the result of a study that the University of Florida conducted, the College of Veterinary Medicine back in the spring of 2015. And we brought a plan to the Board in the fall of 2015 and have begun implementation. We've got -- most of the items in that plan have been implemented, are going to be accounted for in this year's budget. The one area that is the biggest nut still to fully crack is the facilities and buildings themselves at the shelter. If you're familiar with the Naples Shelter, there are about six buildings on the campus. And we've a challenge with keeping the buildings properly ventilated, cooled, heated. We also have other challenges that we're working on. This building was built in 2001, or these set of buildings. And in 2010, the American Society of Veterans Shelter Association issued guidelines regarding facilities and animal-care standards. And so this building -- those came out nine years after the building was built. The building was obviously not built to those standards. We -- the report that we've been working on has been to address the operational, and a good deal of those capital goals that we need to meet to provide the optimal care that the standards are set in these national guidelines. But where we're still struggling and working through is the actual buildings themselves, and particularly the heating, ventilation, air June 15, 2017 Page 61 conditioning, cooling. You may remember, those of you who were on the Board in 2015, that we -- when we came to the budget hearing in September of 2015, we had just come off of an incredibly hot summer, and we had temperatures in the kennels approaching 100 degrees, and some of our many active volunteers voiced their concerns and came to the Board and voiced their concerns at the time about the condition of the shelter. Since then, Darcy and her team, working with facilities management, have taken some temporary measures. We've repaired the ventilation system -- because when you talk about heating, ventilation, air conditioning, it's not just temperature. It's also circulation of air to limit passage and distribution and infections. And we've fixed the ventilation system, and right now we don't have a permanent fix for temperature control. The new standards that were adopted in 2010 call for maximum warmth of 80 degrees and a minimum temperature of 60 degrees in the kennel areas. And as I said, we run close to 100 degrees without any air conditioning in the summer months. Now, last summer we did -- we did implement a temporary solution, and we're implementing it again this summer. We're renting air conditioning units in the main dog adoption shelter, and that's worked like a champ. We've absolutely been able to keep the temperatures under that 80-degree maximum consistently through the summer. It's expensive. It's not a good long-term solution, but it is tiding us over for the time being. So what we're looking at in the coming year, we do have in the capital budget fund, countywide budget capital fund, a half-a-million-dollar request, and that request is to follow through on some recommendations we received from an architectural study earlier this year to -- in two steps. One is to design an additional building that we think we have room to install on the east end of the campus, based June 15, 2017 Page 62 on the architect's review of the site, that would be built to the current standards. And we would design that in the coming year. The architect also recommended a plan for addressing the deficiencies in the other buildings, and they gave us an analysis of what it would cost to renovate the buildings versus cost of tearing them down and rebuilding them. And in their analysis, the cost was roughly the same. It was about $100,000 more -- a little over a million dollars per building to tear them down and rebuild them and a little bit under a million dollars to renovate them. Based on that, it would appear that the prudent thing, best-value return option here would be to tear the buildings down over time and rebuild them. In talking to our leadership in facilities management, though, they're telling me that they think that we might be able to renovate the buildings for less than what the consultant's study said. Quite a bit less. So what we want to do in the coming year -- what we want to do in the coming year is drill into that a little further, move forward on adding this one building, because this one building will help us in a number of ways. It will give us a staging area to deal with each -- one building at a time, because we're going to have to deal with the animal population. Whether we renovate or rebuild or whatever we end up doing, we've got to have a place to put the animals while we're doing it. So if we build this new building, that would essentially become the transfer area for while we're doing future renovation work or reconstruction work. But what I'm telling you in a nutshell is we'll move forward on designing that building and bring back a capital request for construction when we've got that done, probably in the FY19 budget, and then we'll look -- and we'll bring you a plan in terms of what we June 15, 2017 Page 63 think we need to do for the rest of the site, and hopefully we'll be able to contain the cost of the total upgrade to the site to meet all these conditions. Again, heating, ventilation, air conditioning, that's the primary one, but there's also sound containment issues. We're told that our ability to adopt the animals and to keep them healthier is improved if you can manage the sound better; not everybody hearing everyone else's dog barking next to them. And we've also got lighting containment we want to look at as well. So we've got some other things to deal with beyond just heating/ventilation. But that's an important project that Darcy and facilities management are going to be working on in the coming year. Now, to my immediate left and new to our team is Sean Callahan. Sean is the Director of our Operations and Veterans Services Division. He comes to us from the United State Congress; seven years as a staff member on Capitol Hill. He's not proud of it, but I'm telling everybody. But Sean brings just a whole new perspective, and he's been a tremendous help to me and the whole team coming in. And Sean is -- provides operational support to the entire Public Services Department, and he also supervises and supports our Veterans Services Group and all our veterans service officer who assist Collier County veterans with obtaining benefits and services that they're entitled to. A couple things that Sean and his team are working on in the coming year, I'll start with the vets. There -- for a very small amount of money, we're looking at developing a program where we can get access to medical professionals on behalf of our veterans, with the consent of our veterans, to help them get more complete and accurate diagnosis on issues they may be having medically, and that, essentially, informs our veteran services officers and gives them the information they need to advocate for additional benefits for these June 15, 2017 Page 64 veterans. And Sean's doing this for, like, $1.95. I don't know what exactly it's costing, but very little. Little bit more than that, but not much money, we're going to be able to add that service and improve that level of service and support to our veterans in the community. In addition, as I mentioned, Sean is -- his other portion of his division is to support the department as a whole. And he's working on helping us implement our enterprise asset management system that we're working in collaboration with Public Utilities and Growth Management on the same platform to create a database and a process for tracking all of our assets in all of these divisions you see represented here and to come up with a very systematic way to identify our assets, to determine their age, their condition, and to get on really organized replacement schedules for assets in the system over time. So Sean's spearheading that. We have a work team that I'm very excited about. We've got frontline employees from each of our divisions who are working with Sean's group to build that system collaboratively, and we're also looking -- I mentioned we had some added position requests. We do have a position targeted, additional programmer who will be the technical support person as well as some other resources from the IT division to help us roll that out, and next year we're going to be really focused on developing the software and the data. So that's a big challenge that Sean and his group are facing this year. To Sean's left is Michelle Arnold. Michelle is the Director of our Public Transit and Neighborhood Enhancement Division. And Michelle is in the middle of trying to fill an existing position, our transit manager position. We think we have a candidate on board. This has been a challenging position to recruit. We're hoping to have somebody on board here in the early part of July. Michelle also oversees, in addition to the CAT, Collier Area June 15, 2017 Page 65 Transit system, she also oversees para transit services and, of course, our neighborhood enhancement function, which includes, what is it, 10, 11 MSTUs? MS. ARNOLD: Ten. MR. CARNELL: Ten active MSTU districts and advisory boards throughout the county. So then we also have Tanya Williams, who is our Library Director. And many of you know, the library recently created -- completed a community assessment which was a very strategic, focused outreach to our community basically asking, what do you like and don't like about our library? What would you like to have more of? What would you like to have less of? Those kinds of questions. And we were very pleased. We got almost 2,000 responses and participants to our questionnaire and survey, public meetings. And from that Tanya is pulling the data together, and we're going to be bringing the Board a strategic plan, multi-year strategic plan for the library to implement steps and improvements and changes to the library system, a lot of that driven by the input from the community assessment. The budget includes the addition of three positions which will continue to help us move towards really trying to get the library back to prerecession kind of staffing and support and activity. What -- the wrinkle here is that we're going to use the community assessment to inform that and to really help us place a premium on which programs the community is telling us they want more of. Specifically, we're going to be hiring library branch managers at Immokalee, Golden Gate Estates, and East Naples branches. And we believe that by doing so, we're going to improve the outreach to those communities and the programs in terms of how we deliver them and what kinds of programs people want, when they want them delivered, try to meet them more to the needs of our patrons. June 15, 2017 Page 66 So Tanya's going to be focused on that. You'll be hearing from her in the fall with that strategic plan. And then we have Stephanie Vick. Stephanie is our Health Department Administrator. We are a liaison to the Health Department, which is jointly funded by the State and the county. And Stephanie presides over the second healthiest county in Florida. And Stephanie is -- leads a group of people who really do an awful lot of work behind the scenes, and I promise you, her team just make problems go away before anybody knows about them. There's just all kinds of things that come up. They've been working on the -- obviously, containing the Zika virus and keeping the public informed about where we stand with that. And they've got a number of challenging things coming forward this year. And then last, but not least, is Barry Williams, our Parks and Recreation Director. And as I mentioned earlier, we'll be opening the Eagle Lakes pool next spring and, in addition to that, we're also adding a maintenance position at Sugden Park to improve our level of service there as well. Barry does have in the budget a couple of fee increases for our users that we're targeting. One is to increase the beach parking fee for nonresidents. Presently it's $50, and we're proposing to raise it to $60, which is what Lee County charges, and that's going to produce one of two things or possibly both. It may result in a slight reduction in traffic into Barefoot Beach Park, which if you've ever been there anytime peak year, it's almost impossible to get into, because people -- Lee County residents are coming to Collier County parks because we charge less than Lee County charges on their side of the line. So we're thinking about equalizing that. That may slow the traffic. If it doesn't, then the consolation prize is we get more revenue in the system, and that will go toward beach park and maintenance. And so I mentioned Eagle Lakes. I mentioned the fee increase. June 15, 2017 Page 67 We also have some other smaller fee increases and adjustments for wet-slip rentals. And then we have -- Barry's got $23 million worth of capital projects going on right now in one form or another. I mentioned the pool. We also have Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park, which is in design right now. We recently had a public meeting with a lot of good participation and, Commissioner McDaniel, props for being there, for taking a few of the arrows and for supporting us. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I think there were only two arrows, as a matter of fact. MR. CARNELL: Well, thank you for your part in that, sir. We thought the meeting was successful. We're moving forward with design, and we're looking at little bit -- possible changes to that master plan design that the Board saw back in 2016. Nothing major, but trying to adapt and continue to take public input and come up with the best outcome there, and you'll be hearing more about that in the fall. We'll be bringing the Board an update briefing on the design status of that park. And then there's Conservation Collier. You have at the moment in your budget a proposal to raise the millage by a quarter mill or almost $20 million to restart your acquisition program. Operationally speaking, in order for us to do that and support that, we are asking for two additional staff persons to get the staffing complement back to what it was back in the good old days of the referendum when we had a referendum, when we had existing funding and we were acquiring properties. That's in the budget as well. And I would say, regardless of what amount you appropriate for property acquisition, we'll need to staff up, because we'll need to start an acquisition process, a public vetting, give landowners who want to offer properties for sale a chance to bring those property forward and have them vetted through your Land Acquisition Advisory Committee June 15, 2017 Page 68 this fall. With that, that's what I've got for the moment. Any questions from any of you? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala, any questions, ma'am? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, I do have. I know that you guys -- oh, I appreciate so much for all the children in this area that they'll finally have a pool. That's a wonderful thing. I was wondering if also you were going to try and complete the improvements that you have targeted as well at the same time. MR. CARNELL: I'm sorry. The improvements; which ones? COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, where you have a place where the children can play inside and some rooms and -- MR. CARNELL: Oh. COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- those things. MR. CARNELL: Yeah, okay. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Now what, how many people can enter into the fitness center, four, six, or something like that? Are you going to expand it to be equal -- I know it will never be equal to all the other parks, but at least to be accommodating some of the people in the area? I think the -- I think the advisory board has recommended this; Phil Brougham has told me repeatedly that he brings them up at the meetings. I was just wondering if you had acted upon that. MR. WILLIAMS: Commissioner Fiala, good morning. Barry Williams, Parks and Recreation Director. Just to respond to your question, yes, ma'am, we are, indeed, looking at that this summer. One of the things that we're looking at with our facility management capital project team is feasibility of that site. And, in essence, what we're looking to do is to look at what June 15, 2017 Page 69 capability that we have. That is a very tight site, a small park surrounded by preserve. There is a space where we originally had intended the pool to go that was left blank, and we think that there's some possibilities there. That feasibility study will be completed this summer. It will tell us exactly what we can do. The big question is, you know, in terms of expansion and traffic and cars in and out whether we can accommodate it, but we are looking at it this summer. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you very much, Barry. MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Is that it, Mrs. Fiala, Commissioner? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay, thank you. Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. On DAS, we had a brief discussion. I was looking here; I didn't see any improvement money appropriated for Immokalee in that facility. What's in our plan there? MR. CARNELL: Well, we do have a plan there. It's not shown in the budget yet. Let me tell you about that. The Immokalee shelter is 40 years old. If you've ever been to the Naples shelter, it's a microcosm of it; old concrete block structure. And we feel like we need -- we actually have in the AUIR a plan to build a new facility, but our staff at DAS has come up with an alternative option. We don't have it funded yet, but we think we may have funding this fall. And what I'm talking about is we're looking at the idea of purchasing, essentially, a mobile clinic that we could circulate throughout the county but particularly and specifically primarily in the Immokalee area where we would have a clinic area, we'd have a treatment area, we'd have staff able to provide medical services to the public through that means. June 15, 2017 Page 70 What we're looking at right now is the estimated cost of that would be about a quarter million dollars, and we are looking for funding partners. And there's a distinct possibility that we have a local partner who may step forward this fall and pledge a significant amount of money towards that. Our intent would be to keep the Board updated on that and, when we get that commitment, to bring this thing back to the Board and talk about a funding plan, and I'm thinking in the fall, Commissioner McDaniel, that we'll have some information for you on that. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. And I also want to address -- and just, there again, on a prioritization basis, how we're doing, what we're doing. I mean, you know -- and I, by no means, am taking away from the necessity of the comfort of the animals that we're caring for while we have them. But you have an appropriation for half a million dollars for an air conditioning system for the existing facilities' air circulation and temperature maintenance and the like. Who determined that the maximum temperature of 80 degrees was necessary? MR. CARNELL: That's the national standard. It comes from the Association of Shelter Veterinarians. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay, okay. So I do want to talk about the operational hours at Immokalee. We've got logistical issues out there with that shelter. A lot of folks -- you know, we have a lot of -- there are a lot of stray animals, dogs and cats, in the Immokalee area. And I've had several people share with me that because of getting there, getting to that shelter -- it's in behind one of our maintenance facilities, and as a matter of security, maintenance put a gate. And now when people come to drop off, they can't get in. So that needs to be addressed sooner than later. And you and I and Darcy, we rode earlier on in my tenure -- we talked about lease June 15, 2017 Page 71 facility, a temporary facility, a temporary lease somewhere along those lines somewhere just to give the public better access that truly do want to help us. I mean, there are people that pick up strays quite regularly, and if they can't get to the facility, they're going to not -- they're going to want to stop helping. MR. CARNELL: Agreed, agreed. And that's where we're thinking the clinic would be our first line of approach here because -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah, but you're talking $250,000 for a mobile clinic that's going to be moving around, and that's another moving target. And what we -- I think, you know, Immokalee's a fairly localized community. The people are -- they're there. If we had some legitimacy with access for people to be able to get there to a facility somewhere to drop off -- and you're talking about a $250,000 expense on a mobile unit that's going to be somewhere. I'm talking about utilizing what we have and allowing for some kind of better access. MR. CARNELL: I understand. And I will tell you that our intent -- while the mobile unit could be placed anywhere in Collier County, the thought would be that it would temporarily reside in Immokalee. We'd find a place -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. MR. CARNELL: -- that we could situate. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. And we've got plenty of property over there. I do have one more question, if I may. This has to do with Conservation Collier. If you would explain to me the current procedures with the acquisition side. We have never -- other than a lack of funding available, we have never been out of the acquisitions business with -- do I look at you? MR. WILLIAMS: Possibly. MR. CARNELL: Yeah. Go ahead. June 15, 2017 Page 72 MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, sir. And your question is how we acquire properties? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: How is it done now? MR. WILLIAMS: Okay. Well, currently, you know, we are in the restart phase, so part of that process is bringing -- and I mentioned yesterday, or Tuesday, I believe, was the creation of CCLAC. We expanded the committee per the ordinance when, acquisition phase, it required a membership of nine, so that has been done and that's been created. Those properties are vetted. When people apply and ask for the properties to be considered, there's a vetting process that we work with Real Estate Services to value the properties, determine their value, bring those properties forward to the CCLAC, the acquisition committee for their consideration, and it's vetted through that. There's a ranking process. When we stopped acquiring properties in 2011, we left a list of properties that we did not pursue; A, B, and C, they were ranked. And so you're going through that process now for a ranking that will occur in December. You do get some properties that will come to you through donations mainly through the Land Development Code as it currently exists. If folks want to do off-site mitigation, there's an option for them to acquire properties on behalf of Conservation Collier and bring those forward. We've had some starts and stops with that. The LDC is being revised. The biggest question that we're looking at is just whether or not those properties that come to you, donation, as part of Conservation Collier, whether the maintenance fees associated with those or the maintenance costs are, indeed, going to help us maintain those properties in perpetuity. So that process is being looked at now, and hopefully that will be before you in the next few months. So that's kind of where we are June 15, 2017 Page 73 now. I'm not sure if I answered your questions, or do you still have some or... COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, where I was going was, and where are the deficiencies in the acquisition side that require two more people? MR. WILLIAMS: That's a great question. When you -- the 10-year period of Conservation Collier when you were acquiring properties, that was mainly their focus in bringing properties on board. And you'll see as these properties come before you for consideration, that is a very demanding process in terms of due diligence and the involvement of a lot of different departments, or divisions rather, within the County Manager's organization. But in that 10 years when you were acquiring property, you had three staff members that were not only acquiring the properties but starting the land management plans associated with them. As you went through the 10-year cycle, we began to shift from acquisition to land management. Now you've got 19 properties, 4,000-plus acres, that you have to manage. So you really have a justification for three staff members to manage those properties, and they do a variety of things in terms of land management. Each one of those properties have a land management plan. Some of those plans include amenities that were proposed to be included for public access. We have a deferred list of about $1.3 million. So the process of acquiring those amenities and putting them in place; so that's what your three land managers, in essence, are doing. What you now need is a person to head up -- and what we propose is the coordinator of the program to head up the acquisition, the restart of the acquisition. And with that we're asking for a technically skilled staff member, I won't say assistant, but to work with June 15, 2017 Page 74 the coordinator in that acquisition process and the coordination that's required. So you're looking at a total in the current scheme of things of five FTE. When we look at similar type programs in the state of Florida and we compare our FTE count to the acres that are being managed, you're well, well below that, and we can provide you some of that data. That's been looked at as well. That kind of benchmarks you of what these five employees are doing with these acres in comparison to some of the other entities in the state of Florida that are doing a like program. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: For now. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Commissioner Saunders, any questions? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I don't have any questions. Nice presentation. Thank you for that. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Just one. In looking at the -- I'm looking at Page 15 of your -- of the DAS budget information, and there's a -- there's a column for Fiscal Year 2018 revenues, $462,100. I'm just curious, what is all that revenue based on? I'm not familiar with -- this is on the -- it's Domestic Animal Services -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's bail money. When your dog gets caught, you have to bail them out. MS. ANDRADE: That's animal licenses that's required by Collier County ordinance, adoption fees, reclaim fees, spay/neuter fees. So it's a lot of fees that we collect at Domestic Animal Services. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: They're fees. Okay. So there's no grant money in that or anything like that. MR. CARNELL: Not in this particular fiscal year, no. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. That's all I have. June 15, 2017 Page 75 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I have a few questions. I think we'll start with our Health Department. And so there's an urban rumor/legend around that the State of Florida is deliberately putting mosquitoes in Collier County in order to study the Zika virus. And I think this is a great opportunity -- I have heard it from more than one corner -- to address that, please. MS. VICK: Well, Stephanie Vick, Administrator of the Health Department. I believe that Mosquito Control certainly would back me up on this, that there are no mosquitoes being put in Collier County for any purpose, including studying the Zika virus. We -- and there have been a few articles that have been in the paper recently. We've been assaulted by a lot of mosquitoes because of the dry -- dry weather prior to the rains. And so now that the rains have happened, we have a large population of mosquitoes getting us, and most of them are saltwater-type mosquitoes. None of them are the type of mosquitoes that carry the Zika virus. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. I'm -- I first came to BCC Collier County in 1965, and this year reminds me of it. Sugden Park. I've been asked -- there is a wonderful program that teaches handicapped children to sail, and they would love a couple of more boats there. So I don't know if that's in the budget, but I'd like you to consider it. It's a wonderful program. MR. CARNELL: We'll take a look. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Animal Control. I adopted my latest dog from Animal Control. He's a great dog; thank you. What a difference under your leadership from a few years ago, and well done. And I just wanted to tell a quick story of these fees. They -- we got a call from a lady who had lost her dog for six years -- six months, June 15, 2017 Page 76 and you had recovered it, and there was some serious medical problems. And she was so excited. I guess it was chipped -- and so excited to find it, and that you found it and wanted to pick it up and found out the bill was probably more than she -- you know, her salary could afford. You not only worked with her, she called twice, one on Friday to say thank you and one on Saturday to say I'm picking him up now. Thank you very much. You know, that's your outreach, and you are doing such a great job. So I would support the improvements to your facility. But, you know, we have a budget, but, you know, it's well deserved. The Conservation Collier, I am -- I did speak with a gentleman who spent a lot of his day here on Tuesday. I do think we need to review the ordinance, but that would be -- that's not budget, but I'm just letting you know, and I'm concerned a little bit about what we've done in the past and what we can do. And then, finally, and I think this is the time to bring it up. Although it will affect the budget, but I do -- I'd like to reinstate the AUIR for beach access in Collier County. It was dropped in 2004, maybe 2006. So I'd like to see if we could start looking at what we're doing for beach access for our growing county. And that's it. Thank you. And just a final, you're my favorite the department because you are the face of my office to the public, and you do such a great job. And thank you so much. You are on the front lines of everything. And I'm just so impressed with the way the county conducts business. And you are certainly a huge part of it. Thank you very much. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I think -- were we going to hear from a couple of speakers? MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yeah. Madam Chair, you have one June 15, 2017 Page 77 speaker on this item. It's Mr. Scott Burgess from the David Lawrence Center. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Before we go there, can I get a little further explanation from you on the AUIR process for the beach access, if you don't mind expanding. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Sure. At the correspondence and communication, or at the end of the meeting, if we could. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Why not now? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: We are a county unlike a lot of counties that takes our inventory of the facilities that we offer the public and take stock of what we do. It's kind of a sheet. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I understand, yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: And so we haven't been looking at beach access since 2006. Somehow that got dropped off the list of maybe we don't need to address it anymore. I think we do, and so that's why I'd like to start seeing where we are, if we're deficient or whatever. And that's countywide. It's not just Collier County excluding the incorporated areas. It's the entire county as a whole. So I think it's a very important exercise to put back in the AUIR. MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, if I could have Barry elaborate and maybe clarify just a little. MR. WILLIAMS: No, I appreciate it. And I appreciate the comment. I think it's very valid. I do want to point out, though, with your AUIR process, you do look at level of service for regional and community parks. And part of your regional park calculation does take into (sic) beach access. And as you know, with our community there is no more available land. And so part of that process is looking at what can we do. And there's been some creative things over the years. Michelle worked very closely this past season in developing the shuttle program, and that's got promise. The ridership wasn't what we June 15, 2017 Page 78 wanted, but we also see -- you know, continue to promote it. But the other thing I wanted to offer, if I may, is that part of the AUIR process, the DSAC actually requested that before the impact fee analysis for parks came back that a master plan be completed that looked at your park system, looked for those improvements. And one of the big focuses that the Parks and Rec Advisory Board has asked us to look at is the beach access issue and what we can do about that. So all of that will ultimately be coming forward to you. The AUIR is something that has always maintained that look, but only in terms of the amount of regional park acres that you need per thousand citizens. It does talk about the issues in terms of beach parking in particular, but I do think that master plan is really going to tease some of that out and continue to come up with creative ideas for us to address that issue. You're not going to get any more beach parkland; there's no more left. But these creative ways to get people to the beaches is primarily going to be the focus. So I hope that helps. I'm not sure if that's quite what you're referencing, but... CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes, it does, but I do think we need to take stock of where we are; I really do. I think that's very important what -- based on our population and the growth of our population, how deficient are we. I think that a very important -- however we address it after we find that out, I think that's a very important computation. MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: As far as I look, we're not planning any beaches in the RFMUD or in the RSLA (sic). MR. WILLIAMS: No. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. MR. CASALANGUIDA: Your speaker, ma'am? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes. June 15, 2017 Page 79 MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Burgess. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. MR. BURGESS: I do have some slides. I don't know if somebody could -- oh, I believe I can do it. Good morning, almost good afternoon. Scott Burgess, the CEO of David Lawrence Center. Thank you so much for allowing me to be here. I know the slides are maybe a little bit hard to see, so I did print those out for the Commissioners to have in front of them; that might make that a little bit easier. First I wanted to say thank you. We've already made note -- I know a couple of the divisions have made note of the workshop that was recently conducted on mental health and addictions here in Collier County specifically. I thank you so much for your leadership in doing that and bringing this -- these important issues to the attention of the community, not only just raising the awareness but really everybody working in partnership in trying to come up with the best solutions for our community. So I thank you so very much. I've got limited time, so I'm going to spend most of my time talking -- because this is budget, talking about finances. But I thought it was important to cast out very quickly the macro environmental challenges that we have. We know one in four individuals are going to have a mental-health condition in their lifetime; one in nine are going to have a challenge related to substance issues. So in a growing community, obviously, these are going to be issues that continue to grow. In addition to that, we are 49th out of 50 in the country, and I have a slide that I'm going to show you very quickly on that. There's only one state that spends less money per capita on mental health and addictions -- and that's Idaho -- currently in our country. So we do have some funding challenges in this regard as it relates to state June 15, 2017 Page 80 funding in specific. We also have the second highest rate of uninsured in the country, which is a significant challenge because, just proportionately so, those uninsured have mental-health and addictions issues, and we do have one of the lowest actuarial rates would indicate that the Medicaid rates in Florida do not cover the cost to provide services. So this is a slide that demonstrates they we are 49th out of 50 in the country in funding for mental health. The red bar almost all the way to the far right is Florida. It demonstrates that we spend 30 -- about $34 per individual per year in Florida. If you go all the way to the far left, the state that spends the most is Maine, and they spend $338 per person. So we're spending one-tenth of what the best state is spending. (Commissioner Fiala is no longer on speakerphone.) MR. BURGESS: If you actually double the amount of money that we're providing, if we doubled the amount of money that we were providing in Florida -- we actually would have about 40 states that would still be spending more money than us if we doubled the amount that we were spending in Florida. What does that mean here specifically in Collier County? This is the line that shows the mental health spending that the state has given David Lawrence Center across the last 10 years. The red line is the actual funding amount. So you can see, relatively speaking, that's remained pretty flat. We had a little bit of a downturn during the economic downturn, some cuts in funding. That's risen just barely. So we're about breakeven from where we were 10 years ago. The blue line is the amount that it would cost as far as increase in population growth and the services associated to what we need to do to meet those needs and a 2 percent increase in inflation across here, which we think is certainly very generous given the housing costs here in Florida, or down here in Collier. That gap, for those that can't see it June 15, 2017 Page 81 in the audience, is a $2 million gap in what we were provided 10 years ago from the state to what we're being provided right now. That -- actually, I looked at the funding, and we were, ironically, 49th out of 50 in funding back in 2007 as well from a state standpoint and national standpoint. This graph is looking at financing in local counties. So Collier County is currently spending $4.40 per resident for these services; again, through support of David Lawrence Center. So that's $4.40 per resident. Comparably, Lee County is spending $6.79 per resident. Charlotte is $7.33 per resident. And a combination of Sarasota and Manatee, because they have overlapping boundaries and service systems, they're at $5.36. So if we looked at what that would mean financially for Collier County, the green line represents the amount that we're receiving currently. If we use the rates of the comparable counties, that would be the bars that you're seeing. So Lee County, it's got an associated dollar amount; Charlotte County, little bit higher; and Sarasota and Manatee also higher, but not as high as the others. The variance is, annually, $370,000 -- $370,000 annually all the way to a range of $1.1 million difference for Charlotte County compared to Collier County. The average of that is $786,000. So what's been happening at the same time as the funding hasn't kept up, you can see this is the graph that we showed of what are the referrals looking like from the Sheriff's Office to David Lawrence Center for Baker Acts. That's increased 254 percent and, as you can see in the last just five years or so, it's continued to dramatically increase because of the CIT training. We have officers that are much better able to detect mental-health issues and substance issues, and we're looking towards intervention and channeling individuals into treatment rather than incarceration whenever possible, and that's what has resulted. June 15, 2017 Page 82 I mentioned these graphs at the workshop, so I won't go into them in depth. But the blue line is the average daily census of our crisis unit about five years ago at David Lawrence Center, the yellow line is current, and the red line is the maximum capacity day for any given month. And I'll just mention as an example, in May, about five years ago we had 11.65 individuals at David Lawrence. This last May it was 26.53, so more than double, and the highest day we actually had 32 individuals. This is a comparable chart that shows our children's crisis stabilization unit. And, again, I won't go into the detail and the depth, but you can see that the children's services on the most acute service that we provide, crisis stabilization. This literally means, by definition, these children are a danger to themself or a danger to others, suicidal or homicidal in that moment. You can see that the blue line was quite low five, six years ago. It's dramatically increased, the yellow line currently. And we actually have days -- in May we had a day where we had 12 children that came to us, and we were servicing on an expanded eight-bed unit. We went from four beds to eight beds and now 12. So I know I have limited time. I apologize. I won't spend more time. But we have respectfully requested additional funding. We have provided that in a letter format to -- for your review, and we have asked for the increase to the average level, which was the 786,000, which would get us in the middle of funding of the comparable counties in the area. What that would equate to is, essentially, taking the current amount of money, $4.40 per resident, and adding about $2 to that; $6.40 per resident, which is still below the other two counties that I referenced. I would like to make note that it's really critical for us to be able June 15, 2017 Page 83 to keep up with current capacity, not only what we're talking about in additional needs that are happening in the county just based on population growth alone, but as we're talking about CIT training. A development we're talking about is bringing that to EMS. We saw the chart of what happened when we brought CIT training to the Sheriff's Office. By expanding it to EMS -- we have to look at this as a whole system of care and how it's going to impact the entire system. So we're definitely going to be identifying more people, deferring more people into treatment, which is the appropriate thing to do, but we need to make sure we're attending to those treatment needs as well. We talked about in the workshop -- a couple of times it came up -- bottlenecking, and we admit that we're one of the bottlenecks. We cannot -- we're not able financially to be able to expand the way that we need to to keep up with the demand in the community. So we're, again, respectfully requesting that you consider that request. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Any questions? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Well -- and this is -- I think Mr. Carnell was saying that this is maybe some of the vetting process we're going to go through; that we're still going to be reviewing this. And, you know, the other question I have -- because it does relate to the budget -- is, it seems to me that if we're really going to address this issue, we need to have some kind of an advisory panel of some kind that can help us prioritize these issues, prioritize, you know, how we're going to support this issue in the future. And I'd just like to make a request that we somehow figure out what -- where that would fit in the budget. You know, coming up with a strategic plan, getting some feedback from the stakeholders and the community, I think, is going to be essential so that it's not just kind of picking and choosing who -- June 15, 2017 Page 84 what entity can be supported; that there will be a comprehensive view of that, and we can address it that way. So if we can try to work something -- you know, the cost of -- because I know there are some staff costs and things for the advisory panel. I mean, how many advisory panels are there in the Public Services Division? A lot? MR. CARNELL: A lot. We've got most of them. They're double digits all total. But it could be -- sir, you could be looking at an ad hoc panel, something that has a sunset life to it. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Sure. MR. CARNELL: It has the purpose of creating a plan and a community-wide strategy, and then giving you input. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Perfect. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think that's very important. You know, that's, I think, what -- we heard from a lot of different entities, and they were all in the room, again and again, and I want to compliment you on that, and people who, oh, I didn't know they exist. But I think there is, in my mind at least, as a user of that system for eight years, some overlap. And I think -- I think it's incumbent to have some kind of direction so that, you know, we can pool monies that are already out there, understanding some of the agencies might be a little territorial, but I do think there's overlap. If we're going to create a system that will be effective to deal specifically with the mental-health challenges our county is facing and will continue to face, that, to me, is the baseline of where we start. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And I think that's part of what came out of the workshop was there's a lot of moving parts, there's a lot of people working -- a lot of entities working together, but it's just grown that way organically -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: -- and I think to have a June 15, 2017 Page 85 comprehensive view and have some evaluation of the system as a whole on a regular basis, I think would be very, very healthy. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner -- yes, Ms. Vick? MS. VICK: Could I just add something. I feel remiss for not saying this during the workshop. But if you're wondering what your constituents might be saying about all of this, the Health Department and NCH system does a community assessment every three years. We just finished one in 2016. And out of that, mental health three years before that fell kind of in the middle of importance to everybody. This time it fell in the top two. And we actually increased the number of focus groups that we did throughout the county. We doubled the number of people that we were meeting with, and it was in every area of the county. So we had Marco and Immokalee and the Estates and Golden Gate Estates and Greater Naples area and East Naples. Every single one of them rated mental-health, behavior-health issues in the top area. And what we heard from them -- so it was not surprising for me to hear the Sheriff's Department say that they're the largest mental-health provider in the community. What we heard from the people participating in the groups was that that's where they refer themselves. They self-refer. They call the police on people in their family because they know that's where they're going to get help. So I think if you're wondering about support from your community, it's there. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Great. Thank you. I wasn't aware of that. That's good to hear. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you. That's important. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Anybody else? (No response.) CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Commissioner Fiala, any June 15, 2017 Page 86 questions of our speaker or any comments? We lost her. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Did we lose her? MR. OCHS: Yeah. I think she might have dropped off. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Mr. Burgess? MR. BURGESS: Yes, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You've done a really, really good job of showing us where we're nationally deficient, where we're deficient in comparison to contiguous communities. One of the things that I need to know -- and, again, the David Lawrence Center does an amazing job, absolutely amazing. And there's no argument that our community is in dire need of assistance in this regard with mental illness and drug addictions. And that was quite evident, Commissioner Solis, in our workshop that we had last week. But I'm leaning more towards results orientation. And this may dovetail into what my colleagues have talked about is some type of an ad hoc advisory committee. You've shown very good data that there's been an increase of clientele, and that's a combination of the opioid-addicted pandemic/epidemic that we have going on, along with better officer training and first responders' training along those lines. But I want to know some breakouts as to how many of those clients are repeat clients and what's your -- what's your turn of -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Recidivism. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you. I cannot say that word. Say it again. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Recidivism. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Recidivism. I can't say it -- of your folks that have to come back; that's what I'm looking for. And we talked about it yesterday at the symposium. That was an amazing symposium that we attended yesterday. And I would like -- I would like to know that as we move forward. June 15, 2017 Page 87 And Commissioner Solis has brought up the subject about this is -- there's no argument that there's an additional need for funding in this area to support our community from a socio standpoint. How do we manage that funding? Where, in fact, does it go? And best manipulate the limited amount of assets that our County Manager has told us on a regular basis that we have. So I would be inclined to be in support of that -- receiving that additional information. We still have time. We still have time in this budget cycle to have discussions about those fundings option. And a comparison, as Commissioner Taylor spoke, I'm a big advocate of not having overlap in services. And I know there are several agencies that do provide assistance in this regard. So I'd like a little clearer delineation on that as well. MR. BURGESS: Happy to provide that information. And I completely agree with the idea of having a countywide strategic plan with specific goals and objectives and outcome measures that we can look at. One of the things I think we found in the workshop process was that we do have a number of entities that are working in this area, including our hospitals, that have a number of individuals that are continuing to go through their emergency room, sometimes onto their medical floor, and they're returning and are very recidivistic. We don't have access to any of that data. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I can't even say recidivism and you said recidivistic? MR. BURGESS: Well, now I can't say it. Now I'm on the spot. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It's contagious. MR. BURGESS: But -- so that was actually one of the things that we talked about. I know Judge Martin talked about that as well, and she has some of our internal data related to all the folks that are going through the specialty treatment programs which we know are working June 15, 2017 Page 88 wonderfully well at saving a lot of money, but she doesn't have a more global database, and she'd like to have -- capture all of the information that could feed into a central repository, if you will. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Right. I mean, this is -- one of the central issues is, a lot of different entities are working in this area. They have their own data, but nobody's putting that data together to see, is this -- how is this system really working? Where is it not working? I mean, either way. So, yeah, I think that's where we need to head, so... CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: It's a stakeholder issue. Like you were talking about, this is a -- there's more than one dynamic that ends up with these population numbers all the way across the board. There's a mentality -- people are going to naturally orient to the place where they are going to receive the quickest assistance, so... CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's it? Commissioner Saunders? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No. I don't have anything else. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Let's talk about the -- oh, thank you very much. Commissioner Fiala? MR. CASALANGUIDA: She's off the call, ma'am. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: She's welcome to send me a text. I'll ask her questions. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Let's talk about the 4H. How serious is it? MR. CARNELL: Twila, why don't you elaborate. I will say before Twila jumps in, that the impact appears to be more on the statewide programs that our kids attend, and you may want to elaborate further. June 15, 2017 Page 89 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: The camps, et cetera? MS. LEE: Exactly. So locally -- we are funded locally for our existing level of service to over 7,200 students or children between the ages of 5 and 18 every year. The state cut, it's very deep for UF because it's a million dollars on the state level, the camps, the legislative, the leadership, the public speaking that our older children specifically are more impacted because those are the types of programs that the older children use. So it's rather a crisis. We don't know the exact shakedown at this point, but we know the UF is scrambling to see what other sources of income or funding they may be able to get. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Will you keep us in the loop here? When I think about, you know, statewide, yeah, you want to compete statewide, but there's probably some things we can do in terms of competition in terms of public speaking even in our chambers where we could have some competitions that might fill the gap in the meantime. You know, this is the second year of the mock commission meetings, and there's such a response. And, you know, these kids just -- if you put a microphone in front of them, it's probably -- it's an exciting time. So I'm not suggesting it would replace what's offered, but certainly with kids that are aging out of 4H, they need an -- if they need an opportunity, please let my office know anyway, and I can work with the County Manager. MS. LEE: Thank you so much. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. All right. It's noon. And if there's no other questions, I think we'll recess for an hour and a minute. And thank you very much. And well done. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: 12:01. June 15, 2017 Page 90 (A luncheon recess was had.) MR. OCHS: There you go. You have a live mic, Madam Chair. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. Commissioner Fiala, are you with us? MR. CASALANGUIDA: The bridge is on, ma'am. So if she chimes in or checks in, you'll hear it come on. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's perfect. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You know, when Troy's in that seat, it always works. MR. OCHS: That's true. I noticed that. MR. CASALANGUIDA: Scapegoat. MR. OCHS: Peter Principle. Commissioners, that takes us to the portion of your budget workshop devoted to review of constitutional officer budgets. Following the agenda, the first up would be your Supervisor of Elections, Ms. Edwards. Supervisor of Elections MS. EDWARDS: Hello. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Hi. How are you? Good afternoon. MS. EDWARDS: I'd like to introduce two ladies that are with me. Melissa Blazier is the Chief Deputy of the Elections Office. MS. BLAZIER: Hi. MS. EDWARDS: And Alex Breault is my Executive Assistant. MS. BREAULT: Hi. MS. EDWARDS: I've met with some of you and shared the high level of our budget, and that includes that in our operations budget we have a 2.1 percent increase going forward, and that's approximately $78,000, and most of that is for the utilities for our new space. The most important thing to look at is the Capital 1 -- or Capital June 15, 2017 Page 91 301 funds. And we let you and we especially let the budget office know, consistently, what we're going to need moving forward as it relates to capital funds in order to meet the requirements for our equipment. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you for that. MS. EDWARDS: Of course, that's important. We maintain a five-year plan for equipment replacement. And for this next budget there's a mandate hanging over us that by 2020 we must replace the ADA equipment. We're using the same ADA equipment that we purchased in 2002. And the difference is that the 2002 equipment was touch screen, but we're mandated to have a paper trail or have a paper ballot for that now. And we're supposed to implement it by 2020, but I don't want to implement new equipment in a presidential election year. We want to implement it next year so all of our election workers, as well as the voters, have that experience prior to a presidential election year. So because we've been letting the budget office know, we currently have $480,000 in our 301 fund, and we're asking for an additional 345,000 in capital 301 funds to meet the equipment requirement. Any questions? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No. Thank you. You don't want to repeat the election of -- what year was this infamous election? Was it 2002, or 2000? MS. EDWARDS: It was 2000. It was my first election. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You don't want to repeat that 2000. MS. EDWARDS: Correct. Then looking forward -- and we've shared this with the budget office. Over the next three budget years, we're also going to need additional capital to move forward and keep up with replacement of equipment in the elections office. Any questions? June 15, 2017 Page 92 (No response.) MS. EDWARDS: I want to say again thank you, thank you to the County Manager's Office as well as to you all for the facility we're in now. We conducted the largest general election we've ever conducted in the 2012 (sic) general, and we led the state in turnout. We had an 87 percent turnout. We voted over 175,000 people in that election, the highest in the state. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Wow. MS. EDWARDS: And it was the smoothest because we were all together on one facility. So thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Thank you for what you do. MS. EDWARDS: Well, we have great staff. I give them all the credit. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders, any questions? (No response.) CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioners Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Just -- I want to commend you. The prudence of ramping up now with your ADA issues in advance of the next presidential election. It's a very prudent maneuver. MS. EDWARDS: Thank you. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's why you have such a -- in addition to why you have such an efficient operation. MS. EDWARDS: Appreciate that. We also want to thank all of our many, many election workers. We train over a thousand for every election cycle, and we want to get them trained well on this new equipment also. Thanks, y'all. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. June 15, 2017 Page 93 COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you. Clerk of Courts MR. OCHS: Commissioners, that brings us to the Clerk of the Circuit Courts. MS. KINZEL: Good afternoon, Commissioners. For the record, Crystal Kinzel, Chief Deputy Clerk, and I have with me Raymond Milum, who is the Clerk's accountant. To begin with, I want to echo what you heard this morning about commending the budget office. We always have a great working relationship to produce this and get through the process, and that's true again this year. So we really appreciate working with them. We've also had the opportunity over -- before we submitted this budget book -- to meet with each one of you individually, and there are no changes since we met with you with that level of detail. We provided the budget book on May 1, and hopefully that answered some of your questions, if not all. We are -- our primary increase -- we have complied with all of the guidance on the budget for our regular operations. The only variation is the 6.5 additional FTEs that we're requesting, and that would be for our payroll operations, two for finance, and an SAP analyst. As you may be aware, the SAP system that runs the entire financials for the county are with the Clerk of Courts, and we have some growth and some change-out of equipment, and we will be growing, as you've heard in each of these budgets, and so we are looking for an additional analyst to work with the county departments in any conversions or any upgrades that might be forthcoming. We also have requested two positions to re-open the Eagle Creek satellite. Back before the recession, we had nine remote locations. We currently have four. And we have been getting numerous public June 15, 2017 Page 94 inquiry mentioning that they could use some service either on Marco or down in the southern quadrant of East Naples where they're growing rapidly. We collocate with the Tax Collector, so there's no facility or additional hard structure necessary. They've agreed that we could move back into that, and that would give us five locations in the county. And with that, we're here to answer any questions if you have additional. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? Not here. Commissioner Solis. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I have no questions. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You have no questions? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. MS. KINZEL: Thank you very much. We appreciate it. MR. OCHS: Commissioners, the next constitutional agency is the Sheriff's Office. Sheriff’s Office SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Good morning, Madam Chair and Commissioners. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good morning -- afternoon. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: It is afternoon already. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No. You said morning. June 15, 2017 Page 95 SHERIFF RAMBOSK: I know. Feels like morning. Thank you for the opportunity to give us some time to meet with you on the budget. I wanted to take a few minutes to review with you some of the accomplishments and highlights of your Sheriff's Office. First and foremost, though, I'd like to take this opportunity to officially recognize the members of our leadership team that are here today. Chief Bloom with operations; Chief Hedberg, our chief counsel; Chief Roberts in corrections; Chief Smith in administration; Chief Spell is not with us today. She's community outreach; and Chief Williams in investigations. Along with that, we have our Finance Director, Andrea Marsh, who keeps us all pretty straight, and we appreciate that as well. But for the leadership team, I want to take this time to recognize each and every one of them for everything that they do throughout the year 24/7 because it allows me a couple of nights to go home and sleep while they stay awake. So they all do a terrific job. Our command staff does as well and, obviously, all the men and women of the Collier County Sheriff's Office who are out there day and night that protect us all and create the community that we are in. But, you know, we couldn't do it alone. So we have many community partnerships that we want to recognize. We have businesses that we work with on a regular basis. We have, obviously, you, the Board, and staff, and we thank you for your support of the health, safety, and welfare of residents of Collier County; the Collier County school system, which we have a large partnership with; fire rescue; and EMS. And really, without all of those partners, we would not have the safe and secure community that we have. A special note to Manager Ochs and his staff, because everybody in this room we get an opportunity to work directly with. And I will tell you, it is a great working relationship. So -- and anything we need, June 15, 2017 Page 96 they provide, and anything we can do, we provide. So I think it continues to be the best it's ever been. So we've had a very busy year; you all know that. We're looking at probably another one. But we can stand before you again because of all and everyone's efforts and tell you that our crime rate -- and these are numbers fresh off the report this morning, and they're going to become statewide public or they are by this point -- that we are down 3.2 percent in crime over the previous year. What's more significant is that we look to see how we compare, and it's not the only comparison of what we do and how we do it, but we like to look at other communities, and we are now -- there are only 10 other counties in the state out of 67 that have a lesser crime rate than we do, and that is three counties better than where we were. So not only is our crime being addressed, but where we are in the state and the nation continues to be addressed. It also becomes one of our biggest challenges, which I'm going to talk with you about in a couple of minutes, because you don't get there without a lot of hard work, but you don't stay there as well. Traffic-crash fatalities are down 29 percent this past year. Traffic crashes, unfortunately, up about 6 percent. That is significantly down over 2014 when there was about a 20 percent or plus increase in crashes. We're starting to get a better handle on that. We'll talk a little bit about how we've addressed that this year with our traffic component. First six months of this year we're on track to reduce that increasing number even more, and we're trying to get down this year's increase -- we don't want it to increase at all, but -- to be minor, maybe 1 or 2 percent rather than the large numbers we've been seeing. So we've been making headway on it. But as the county continues to grow, we're going to continue to see that as a challenge. Our volunteer and auxiliary members, they have contributed over June 15, 2017 Page 97 32,000 hours, and that represents more than three-quarters of a million dollars that we would have to pay for those services. And the men and women who volunteer here, you know, we have some of the best in the nation in their fields. So we're very happy that they want to come and work together with us. Summerfest continues to be a terrific program. We've been growing that each and every year. Over the last two-and-a-half years, we have increased programs for our young people by 58 percent, and the majority of those have been done without increasing staff to do it. So it's more about looking at what we have and what we do with it. There have been a number of recognitions, I think, are really important. We received the 2017 Alliance for Children and Family Award; we received the Paragon Award from the Boys and Girls Club, and that's for being a government champion of youth; the 2017 Expression Award. That is a graphic design award. It was a national award. There were 81 persons that were vying for that award, and your Sheriff's Office got it for our information and design that goes out informing the public as to the good and the not-so-good things going on throughout the county. So the Florida CIT Coalition issued its first ever gold certificate, and it was to the Collier County Sheriff's Office for meeting and exceeding the Memphis Model Training program for crisis intervention. Eight years ago we started that -- actually implemented probably nine, at least since I've been in place, we have trained 950 law enforcement officers throughout Collier County and surrounding counties. We have put together a training program which is part of this recognition that looks at how do you train law enforcement agencies in the 40-hour course with limited resources both at the NOMI level -- and they are terrific, by the way. NOMI, throughout the years, has June 15, 2017 Page 98 been absolutely terrific. But how do you do that and still patrol and put in the time that you need? So we put together a plan that accelerated the training, and that's why today, other than new people coming in the door, we have trained all of our certified members of our agency, or most of them at this point. So that is a terrific accomplishment. Lieutenant Minick, Team Leader of the Year from the Florida Corrections Accreditation Unit. We received the Excelsior Award from the Florida Accreditation Commission. That is the highest level of achievement for a law enforcement accrediting organization that they can bestow. So that is due to the work of all of our members. So a lot has been going on. We continue to look at what we're doing in each of the departments that are here today. We had a great symposium yesterday looking at what has been going on in corrections. More importantly, where we go, how we go, how we ensure that the people that need to be housed are housed. How do we transition people out of the system so that they don't recidivate, which I believe, in addition to identifying those with mental-health problems, are going to be the two major areas that we can make the community safer, that we can reduce the resource costs it takes to run a jail operation, which means lower the cost of operations in the jail, and if we can do both of those things -- and I know that we can -- we are going to have a terrific outcome. And I think they looked at 2026 as one; one date out in 2045. I'm going to tell you, I don't think I'll be here with you in 2045 to let you know how that worked out, but I know that our team will do a terrific job in making that occur. Done a number of things in operations. Of course, day to day we look at how we respond. We have critical incidents and issues, wildfires being one of them. They created this year an incident management team where we train up and identify people in advance June 15, 2017 Page 99 that we can pull off within an hour or two's notice with whatever the emergency might be and have them in place, properly equipped, properly trained, and it worked out very well for our recent fires. We looked at developing our tactical partnerships with Fire Rescue and EMS. Things are changing around the country for those emergency services. We've been working together long before they started telling everybody, gee, you all need to work together to respond to this type of an event should you have it. We've already been doing that. And I want to recognize all the chiefs for that throughout Collier County. Community engagement, they continue to be a leader in providing information and, as we were told by the Forestry Service, they selected our Community Engagement Department to represent what was going on with the wildfire situation, and they actually put out and reached 1.18 million people with information on the wildfires, and that was only in a four-day period. That is a terrific accomplishment. More importantly, we had so much comment from the public that said, thank you for letting us know what was going on, because they didn't always know what was occurring. So that was very, very important. We continue with our active shooter threats and terrorism training. We have now provided training to 3,900-plus residents in Collier County. We have looked at probably 300 other business organizations, and we will continue to do that. Again, not so much that we may be directly threatened by an event of some sort. But the way things are going, we will be prepared in the event that we are. But if you're on vacation, if you're in Europe or you're in some other large city, that you can apply the same information while you're on vacation. Winter season, we talked a little bit about accidents. We know they're increasing. We put together our first winter season traffic task June 15, 2017 Page 100 force. In just four months, 6,300, almost 6,400 traffic stops, 3,000-plus citations, 3,000 warnings, 17 flex operations, and we are going to continue to do that next season. Some of you may know that I put on five more motorcycles, and so traffic continues to be a main concern; any main complaint from the public that we continue to address. We've a lot of other things that have been accomplished. I think I'll take it down, though, to where we're going as far as challenges, because that's where I think most of our interest will be. (Commissioner Fiala is now present via speakerphone.) SHERIFF RAMBOSK: When we look at your support, again, we want to recognize you and thank you for all health, safety, and welfare issues. The Orangetree substation that was opened this year, you know, for when we were there -- and I know a lot of you were there. But for the public, I don't think a lot of them, when I made the comment relative to the manufactured temporary substation -- when we started getting bullet holes through the side of the building, we thought that was a safety concern. So we are very, very happy that we have a building to protect our deputies when they need to take a break and do reports, so we thank you for that. We also thank you for the helicopter purchase. So as we look forward, growth, we continue to see that. I had an opportunity to see Mark Strain's presentation. He did an absolutely fabulous presentation. I'm going to have him come in and do it for our staff so that they get a better understanding of where we're going to be in the future. Traffic enforcement we touched on. Recruitment and retention continues to be a serious problem for law enforcement nationally. We have similar issues here, just add in housing, and it exacerbates where we need to be. Threats against law enforcement are materializing daily. We are June 15, 2017 Page 101 doing everything that we can. I've put a group together to look at ways in which we can protect our deputies from everything from geo fencing in law enforcement vehicles to ballistic plates and vests, and I'm going to move forward with some of those as we get into the next budget year or sooner, because I believe that with all the long gun and rifle shooting going on that I'm going to upgrade vest plates for our deputies and their tactical vests. With all that, we still were able to prepare and submit a budget that was within the parameters and guidelines that you felt were important for the coming year. So with that, we have our staff here. If you've got any questions at all, we'd be happy to take them. But thank you for your consideration of our operating budget. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Just a couple of questions, and it has to do mostly with corrections; so maybe Chief Carter, if I can ask him. When we're talking about appropriations for detention and correction, there's a 40-some-odd million dollar request there. Does that include the law enforcement aspect of that, or is that just strictly for the facilities? CHIEF CARTER: That would be for our cost in running the facilities that's not picked up by the county and the cost of staffing those facilities, basically. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. So a portion of the law enforcement that's down below is -- CHIEF CARTER: I'm not sure as to what -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, there's another line item down here that says law enforcement expenses, and I didn't know if those were segregated, if the personnel was included in the detention and correction, or is that a portion of law enforcement? June 15, 2017 Page 102 CHIEF CARTER: It's all corrections employees, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. CHIEF CARTER: Corrections. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's it? Commissioner Saunders? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just a couple points. I was noticing the chart on the -- in the booklet that you provided us. On Page 1 it says, agency-wide issued traffic and boating citations, and it looks like there's been a very substantial dropoff in the number of tickets over the last 10 or 11 years and a large increase in the number of warnings. And I also noticed, I think there's -- in terms of traffic enforcement, on Page 19 it looked like you were looking to have 30 positions and you only have 27, if I'm reading this -- I'm not sure if I'm reading this correctly. And I believe you said -- I may have misheard this -- but that there's been an increase in crashes in Collier County. And I ride a motorcycle a lot on weekends, and I generally have to go 15 miles an hour over the speed limit just to keep from getting run over. And I'm wondering if there could be some more emphasis, perhaps, on speed control, because I think it's actually kind of getting out of hand in some roads. Livingston Road, for example, if you're not going 65 miles an hour, then, you know, you're going slow. 951, hidden out east, the same thing. You have to go very fast just to keep up with traffic. That's just a question. Do you need more emphasis on speed control and traffic control? SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yeah. The question is exactly why we prepared what we did this coming year and increased the number of motorcycle enforcement units that are available. We're still trying to catch up from the years during the great recession, but we're putting more and more people into traffic because that is a primary concern of June 15, 2017 Page 103 our residents. Speed control on Livingston Road -- and we are up there a lot. The second we go, they're right back at it. But, yes, you're correct, yes, we are -- we have created one this season, a task force. We are going to do the same thing next season. We actually have a summer mid season task force, and they will be out there on Livingston Road this summer. So everybody listening needs to listen, that they're out on Livingston Road. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just one followup question. I know that in a lot of law enforcement agencies there's been a dropoff in the writing of tickets because the fines are so high. That's sort of been one of the unintended consequences of the legislature continuing to increase penalties is that law enforcement officers are somewhat more reluctant to write tickets. Is that part of the reason why there's 45,000 warnings and -- or maybe it's not 45,000 warnings. It's -- whatever that number is -- SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yeah, it is, yes. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- 40,000 warnings and 13,000 tickets. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes. The answer to your question, yes. The state, I believe -- and most of our people believe we're out of line with the costs that were increased, and it poses a very severe problem for our people to go in and take that corrective action. On the other hand, corrective action doesn't always require a traffic citation. So we authorize them to use any and all means they can. But I will tell you that from the day they increased those fines significantly, it posed a problem throughout the state of Florida with law enforcement enforcement. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I would just -- again, just commend June 15, 2017 Page 104 you for all the vision and all the work that you're doing with the symposium and mental health. I think it's phenomenal, and I think it's because of your leadership and moving in that direction, so thank you for everything that you're all doing for the point. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Absolutely. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Any questions of our sheriff? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Nope. Thank you anyway. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Great job, Sheriff Rambosk. It's a pleasure to work with you. In another venue you and I worked together a little bit of time, and I feel very confident that the county's in very good hands under your protective leadership, so thank you. SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you very much. MR. OCHS: Commissioners, that concludes our constitutional officer review. We'll move next back to our morning agenda and our Administrative Services Department. Administrative Services MS. PRICE: Good afternoon, Commissioners. It was going to be good morning. Len Price, for the record, Administrative Services and Emergency Services Department, and we're here today to present our budget to you. Our department is not the one that's openly visible that everybody sees. We're the ones that, if we don't do our jobs, nothing else gets done. And we try to stay behind the scenes and just continue working as a strategic partner with all of the other agencies and all the departments and divisions providing services and resources and June 15, 2017 Page 105 operational efficiency to keeping the government running. And, of course, like the rest of the county, we are very focused on customer service, and we recognize that our customers are both internal and external. The budget that we've presented to you includes 356 FTEs; a total budget of about 167 thousand -- or million dollars. A thousand would be easier. Within that, we've -- we're planning to add an additional EMS station to address population growth. That will be in the East Naples area, Hacienda Lakes, and there will be six additional positions to staff that station. A couple of other additions that we're adding is two network administrators for the Public Utilities Department, to keep their network operational, and some infrastructure upgrades that are necessary to keep all the equipment running and all the lights on. Beyond that, we're just going to continue to maintain current level of service and add some increased efficiencies as the year goes on. There were some organizational changes this year that impacted our division. Isles of Capri was completely annexed into the Greater Naples Fire District, so that's no longer part of our group, as well as the Facilities Management Division moved into Public Utilities to maximum some operational efficiencies and resources that they have to offer. At the same time, we moved communications and customer relations into our group for basically the same reasons. So the new organization includes administration, customer service and communications, fleet, information technology, risk management, emergency services, EMS, human resources, and procurement. And all of our directors are here today to answer any of your questions that you might have. I did want to touch on a few of our major accomplishments this year, things that we're particularly proud of. We've begun June 15, 2017 Page 106 implementing the Blue Zone workplace designation, and we're getting very close to being able to have that designation through our wellness group. We've implemented a new agenda system for not only the Board of County Commissioners meeting but also some of the other meetings that we hold on a regular basis, and we're starting to expand that opportunity. By doing so, we present on our website those agendas so that the general public can see them almost immediately. Our build-the-team group has implemented an online learning system for our staff and revised our performance management system. We've developed a vehicle recovery fund so that as we purchase vehicles we also set aside the money to replace them down the road so that we don't find ourselves in a situation where our vehicle, or rolling stock, is not up to par. We've added -- we've made significant progress on the public safety radio system. That project is on time and on budget and scheduled to complete during the next fiscal year. We've responded to the busiest wildfire season that this group has ever seen, and certainly the busiest that we've ever had in a number of decades in Collier County. I say we've got a new EMS station. We just opened one in North Collier on Logan and Vanderbilt. Next year we're going to add one more to our group. We added closed captioning system for our televised meetings so that all of our population can watch, and we've adopted a revised procurement ordinance and the associated user manuals to go with that. Next year we're going to be focusing, and our key challenges are going to be keeping up with ever-increasing demands for services, and that's internal and external, implementing and promotion of a 311 customer care system next year. Reductions in healthcare reimbursement is providing some challenges to our EMS system. June 15, 2017 Page 107 Obviously, meeting the sheltering needs of a growing population; something that we're always trying to keep up with. Keeping up with cyber security threats which has become something that, for many years, we tried to guard against but didn't see as very high risk, and that is really changing, and it keeps our IT team constantly vigilant to keep from those threats entering into our system. We are always trying to attract and retain qualified workforce, keep them trained and keep them happy so that they stay here in Collier County. And, of course, we continue to work on replacing aging equipment. So those are the challenges that we have before us, and I believe that the budget that we've presented will help us meet and attack each of those. With that, I would open up the floor to any questions you might have. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I have a couple questions, and it will probably show my ignorance, but it won't be the first time. I wanted to, first of all, just to comment. I want to make sure that you have in EMS all of the technology you need to do proper coding and that sort of thing to make sure that you're maximizing reimbursements on Medicaid and Medicare. Are there any needs there that are not being met, or is there any technology that you don't have or would like to have that would help in that regard? CHIEF BUTCHER: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Tabitha Butcher, Collier County EMS Chief. At this time we do have the technology we need for billing. We did recently put an RFP out for billing services, so that may be changing within the future, and we did interview several billing companies that are operating with advanced technology to be able to find addresses, find insurance that people may not submit at the time June 15, 2017 Page 108 that we take their information. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. So that's an ongoing effort then? CHIEF BUTCHER: It is an ongoing effort. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: The other thing, I was trying to determine what the ad valorem support for EMS is, and it looks like, if I'm reading this correctly, in the projected would be just over 22 million. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioner, let me take that question. Go to Page 62 under the tab, if you would, and you'll see that the transfer from a General Fund, Fund 490, is 17 million -- $17.5 million -- COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. MR. ISACKSON: -- which is a 16.9 increase over the '17 budget. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And the question that I would have is, is there anything we can do to reduce that number? I would assume that our fees are probably where they should be. But is there room to increase those? Is there a way to reduce that number? CHIEF BUTCHER: Sure. The fees are according to our billing company. We check those each year to see where we are in comparison to the rest of the state and other like EMS agencies, and we're actually right in the middle for the state of Florida. So the billing company has recommended a potential increase in the air medical transport fees, so that is something that we've been looking into doing, and we will most likely be moving forward with that. We are also looking at programs that may help tackle some of the health issues that we're seeing on the front end before 911 is called. Because one of the challenges that we're seeing in all of healthcare is that patients can't get into their primary-care physician, or they just don't simply have the access to get into it. So what happens is they end June 15, 2017 Page 109 up calling 911. Similar to the jail, that's where they know that they're going to get immediate care that they do not have to pay up front. So we are working on a community project that may address some of those things that we can actually take care of upfront to prevent patients from calling 911, which will help with those -- the General Fund contribution. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: In terms of the fees that you have, you indicate we're kind of in the middle range. Is there any reason why we would want to stay in the middle range as opposed to go up a little bit? Is there some reason why we don't increase those fees a little bit? CHIEF BUTCHER: Well, the challenge that you have when you increase fees is that the majority of our payer mix in Collier County, 70 percent to be exact, is actually Medicare and Medicaid, and those payments are not going to change. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Right. I understand. CHIEF BUTCHER: So what it's actually going to affect is commercial insurance or self pay, and self pay is typically what we have to write off. And if we increase that amount, we're going to end up writing off more. And the other challenge, as Administrator Price mentioned, is that with fee rise in cost of healthcare, a lot of the deductibles are going up, so people actually that have insurance are falling into that self-pay category because their deductibles are so high. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's it? Okay. Commissioner Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Nothing. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, nothing from me. I already asked my question about helicopters. June 15, 2017 Page 110 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. I have two questions; one for Dan. We learned earlier that there's been an increase in wildfire mitigation. How do you feel about that amount and is it enough or -- and what kind of efforts are you going to be able to appropriate to that? MR. SUMMERS: Well, thank you. And I appreciate very much you asking that. We worked very diligently with the fire service. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Excuse me. I think the mics are off on this table. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: He's just not close enough. Tabitha was fine. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No. I think that one's just not working. MR. SUMMERS: Can you hear me now? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I heard you fine. MR. SUMMERS: Very good. Thank you. And I'm really glad you asked that question. The appropriation that you generously offered to us during this last wildfire discussion, it's only been in the last two or three weeks or since -- should we say since the rain started that our partners at Forestry were able to catch their breath. They were still working incidents statewide. So we have prepared a draft interlocal agreement. It just went to Tallahassee about a week ago to get that interlocal funding, the supplemental funding you have recommended earmarked -- get that paperwork started to you. I know there's a big push to get that done before the summer recess, so hopefully we can get some cooperation from Tallahassee to do that. Our Forestry partners are recommending that of that money about 70,000 be made available for equipment, and they're in the process of June 15, 2017 Page 111 spec'ing that equipment, but they'd like for us to make that acquisition. We still have to review that. But they will handle the maintenance, the repair, the fueling. The fire districts, I think, Commissioner Saunders brought a really good idea to make sure that the fire districts participated. While they're not going to be part of that agreement, they are going to contribute like-kind services, whether it's fuel or additional personnel for the mitigation burns when those come out, and then a small amount of money for public education and public awareness for their mitigation team. So we're working very hard to get that agreement to you for consideration before the break. I think it's a great start. Parallel to that is the staff meeting on the wildfire mitigation long-term solution. You asked us to look at a long-term fix. So that group has had three meetings. Right now they have two more scheduled. Hopefully they will have a report that I can give to you before the break that is going to have a litany of recommendations as you all suggested. We've had great participation from Public Utilities, the fire district, Land Development Code. So all of those Fire Wise -- if you remember that wildfire urban interface mitigation discussion, that group is working diligently to bring you some recommendations. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I find that interesting, because when I was -- as we were going through the Fire Wise seminars and those sort of things, the general consensus was Forestry had the asset base. They needed the money to deploy the people to actually put forward the plan. Forestry already has a preventative mitigation plan. They just haven't necessarily been able to implement it because of expenses, but they weren't, per my understanding, shy of assets. And then you start off by saying 70- of the 75- is going to equipment. MR. SUMMERS: It's for assets, right. June 15, 2017 Page 112 One of the things that they wanted to do -- and I think they have either -- they're going to use some of their wildfire mitigation grant money as a result of the federal disaster declaration for the wildfire, they indicated that it looks like that they were going to be able to actually improve their manning, but it was the smaller tractor environment that was going to be more efficient for us, or the smaller chopping unit. So they want to do to the manpower. That makes our funding stream much easier to them. They claim they can do the mitigation with manpower either contract or on hand, and this extra piece of equipment will let them cover a little more real estate. That was our recent recommendation. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's fine. I'm sure we'll get to talk about that. I don't mean to belabor the point. It just was contrary to the majority of the discussions that I had had as we were coming through. I mean, we were forced into making some decisions with regard to a known issue with the lack of preventative fire mitigation. So happy to have something. MR. SUMMERS: We are working diligently with them, and we really want to bring you something before recess. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Great. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: The other question I had was on -- excuse me -- on our rolling stock and aging equipment. Who does that? MR. MENENDEZ: I can take that question. I'm going to use this mic. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Just -- I wasn't able to find in the information that I received what kind of an analysis we go through from a cost benefit associated with the replacement of the purportedly aging and rolling stock equipment. June 15, 2017 Page 113 MR. MENENDEZ: Yes. For the record, Mario Menendez with Fleet Management. We have a very robust fleet management software, and part of that software we have programmed key points to look at; cost of equipment, how long the life expectancy is, cost of maintenance, things of that nature. And we run reports yearly to look at equipment and make recommendations for replacement. You probably know, most folks know, you know, just like with your personal vehicle, at some point any kind of equipment starts costing you more than it's worth. So you want to move some equipment at that point. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's why I'm asking, and I just wanted to know -- MR. MENENDEZ: We do. We do it yearly, and we make the recommendations, and then we work with budgets and individual departments and divisions as to what we can afford to replace. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Could I see that sometime, one of those -- MR. MENENDEZ: Absolutely. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- analysis just to see -- MR. MENENDEZ: I can make that available. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- some of the stock that we have going on. I see a lot of new county vehicles showing up in my world, and I just want to know how bad the old ones were. MS. PRICE: They were pretty bad. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: My last question was for Ted. How's everything over in Purchasing? MR. COYMAN: Things are wonderful; thank you for asking. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Good. MR. COYMAN: We're making good headway. We have a very aggressive plan to update our policies and procedures and train not June 15, 2017 Page 114 only procurement staff but also general county staff on, you know, best practice execution of procurement but also in the area of contract administration. So later, in a number of months, the Board will be seeing another revision to the procurement ordinance, and that will be an overhaul of the aspect of the ordinance that deals with contract administration, and we'll be giving the County Manager a new policy manual that will also include training for project managers who are being asked to administer their relationship between the county and the vendor when vendors are performing under a contract. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Beautiful. And as a point of discussion, I would like to see us be moving towards an initiative for bringing private citizenry into the processes, through procurement, through contract management. We have an inordinate amount of knowledge in our community, retired folks from different industries throughout the world. And I believe that the greater transparency we have in all of our processes, especially in contract management, the greater opportunity we will have for success. We'll be able to garner a lot of -- I call it local knowledge, but I would -- I would really like to see that. I know it's not something that we do on a regular basis, but I'd like to see it tried in a couple of our processes. MR. MENENDEZ: Well, as we progress, there are a number of roundtables planned, at least with the vendor community, so for architects and engineers, general contractors, and other service providers, and then as we make additional progress, then normally what I would do is then do outreach to the general chambers of commerce and others in the community so that they're aware of not only the opportunities that the county has -- because we do need vendor participation -- but the public needs to understand that we try June 15, 2017 Page 115 very, very hard to be a good steward of the tax revenue when it's being let out in procurement. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's all. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. No questions. Thank you for this presentation. Public Utilities MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, thank you. The next folks that are going to be up are the Public Utilities folks, Mr. Yilmaz and his leadership team. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It suddenly got warm up here. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. I didn't know if it -- COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It was remaining nice and cool. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Is the A/C not working? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It's getting a little warmer. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Is that the facilities number? UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: We'll open up in here. We'll lower the temperature. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes, thank you. This was apropos for Facilities to show up as we're all sitting here sweating. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: George? MR. YILMAZ: Good afternoon, Commissioners. For the record, George Yilmaz, Public Utilities Administrator. First, we sincerely appreciate your confidence, continued confidence in our leadership and our team, and we sincerely appreciate the continued support we get from our County Manager's Office. I'm very pleased to report that proposed budget meets the board-approved guidance as our County Manager indicated in this morning during his opening remarks. June 15, 2017 Page 116 This proposed budget enables the Public Utilities to continue to deliver the life-sustaining essential services, including facilities, that will meet current and the future demand. I'm going to have our Director of Financial Operations provide you with highlights of the budget which cost quarter billion dollars. Joe? MR. BALLONE: Thank you, George. Good afternoon, Commissioners. For the record, Joe Ballone. I'm the Director of Financial Operations for Public Utilities. By way of a little background, Commissioners, Public Utilities Department is comprised of two distinct revenue centric enterprise operations. It's the Collier County Water/Sewer District, the Solid and Hazardous Waste Management Division. And as you know by now, in FY18, the department budget also includes Facilities Management Division. So I'll address each of these businesses individually, and I'll begin with the Collier County Water/Sewer District. So in Fiscal 2018, in our budget, the Utility plans to produce and distribute 9.1 billion gallons of potable water; collect, transmit and treat almost seven billion gallons of wastewater; and then redistribute over six billion gallons of irrigation quality water for our customers and visitors of Collier County, and those will meet all the regulatory agency requirements 24/7/365. The district is comprised of six divisions. As an Enterprise Fund, the district revenues represent fees for service across multiple funds. There are no General Fund in the water/sewer -- no General Fund funding in the water/sewer district. So to generate the revenues sufficient to support district's operating expenses, its payment in lieu of taxes, the capital investment program, debt service payments, and the reserves that meet the budget guidance. June 15, 2017 Page 117 As Leo mentioned this morning, the FY18 proposed revenue does include a Consumer Price Index adjustment of 2.9 percent to our potable water, wastewater, and IQ user fees. So these minor rate adjustments do allow the district to keep pace with inflation and avoid rate shock in the future. A little bit about our Capital Improvement Program. The repair and rehabilitation program is funded at $77 million this year. It's allocated across projects on a risk-based assessment. Some of the major water projects that you'll see in our capital plan include the repair and rehabilitation of water mains in Naples Park, the Glades, and in old Lely. We will continue our meter renewal and replacement program, and the CIP does include two new raw water wells. Some of our significant wastewater projects will include a new master pump station at Naples Park. And, as you know, Commissioner, there's quite a lot going on in that part of the county. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: A lot going on up there. MR. BALLONE: In East Naples, we will relocate Master Pump Station 308. That's the Gateway triangle; and we'll rehabilitate 10 lift stations in the 305 basin, and we're going to replace Master Pump Station 306. That's the Bayshore-Thomasson area. That Capital Improvement Plan does include $2 million for repairs and improvements at the water and wastewater plants operating at the Orangetree Utility site, and that will include some rehabilitation of portions of the water distribution and wastewater collection infrastructure in that area. The water/sewer district has a debt service in 2018 of $17.9 million. About 13.3 million of that is growth related, and the rest is user fees. It's fully funded. Like the General Fund, we have no new debt programmed in Fiscal 2018; however, as you know, the county's growing very fast, June 15, 2017 Page 118 and if that does place demand for incremental capacity, we will be back to the Board to discuss that. The Fitch's bond rating does remain at Triple A, and Moody's rating that was raised last year remains at AA1. I'll talk about reserves a bit. The unrestricted reserves in the water/sewer district for operations and capital combined total $26.9 million. That represents about 59 days of operating and capital funds, and that's within the board-approved guidance of 45 to 90 days. So, in summary, the district is revenue centric, meets the budget guidelines that you've approved back in February. I'll move on to the Solid and Hazardous Waste Management Division. The division is set to meet all federal, state, and local regulations for solid and hazardous waste collection and disposal to ensure public health and safety as well as increasing public awareness of the importance of recycling and waste diversion. As an enterprise fund, their revenues represent fees for service; again, across multiple funds. Our customer accounts at the recycling centers are anticipated to exceed 76,000 in Fiscal 2018, and that does include the long-awaited opening of the newest northeast recycling center in the second quarter. We approximate in the second quarter. The DEP certified recycling rate for Fiscal 2015, which is last year -- we have a certified rate -- was 65 percent and well within reach of the state goal of 75 percent by 2020. And, essentially, what will help us get there is enhanced multifamily and commercial recycling initiatives in 2018. Tonnage at the Collier County Landfill as well as the Immokalee transfer station continues to increase over prior years, and that's current, as you would expect, with county growth and the demographics of our new residents. We expect to provide service to almost 129,000 residential June 15, 2017 Page 119 curbside customers by the end of Fiscal 2018. Our franchise haulers currently collect almost 38,000 daily trash collections. The tipping fees, as County Manager mentioned this morning, they represent fees for service. They'll be adjusted by the Consumer Price Index as well, 2.9 percent, in accordance with the budget guidance. Those are necessary to meet customers demand at the landfill, the recycling centers, and it fully funds our Capital Improvement Program in Solid Waste. For our curbside customers, annual assessment will increase in both District 1 and District 2 about $17 a year. That's about $1.41 a month, primarily driven by the tonnage per account increase, which have been consistently rising over the past several years, as well as the contractual contract rate that we pay our haulers, by 75 percent of the April Consumer Price Index. We also have a demand for infield face-to-face trash collection and recycling education with our growing residential and commercial customer base. In solid waste, the Capital Improvement Program is funded at $9.1 million this coming year, and to ensure compliance at the landfill, including construction of a self-funded -- thank you, Mark -- deep-injection well. And solid waste will remain debt free in 2018 where we will continue the pay-as-you-go approach in this coming year. Operating and capital reserves in this division are budgeted at $9.3 million. That represents 65 days of operation and capital up from last year. Within the budget policy guidelines -- and we need those reserves to respond to the disaster debris recovery mission. And, again, the Solid and Hazardous Waste Management Division is revenue centric as an Enterprise Fund in 2018. And, lastly, as you've all been waiting for, the Facilities Management Division. Funding for this division, however, unlike the June 15, 2017 Page 120 other two, comes primarily from the General Fund. It has a total net operating budget of 15.4 million, and 14.3 million of that comes from the General Fund. The division, as you know, is dedicated to providing secure, clean, and comfortable facilities for our citizens, visitors, and our staff. It provides maintenance, construction, and capital renovations for the county structures, not only for the Board's agency, but for the Collier County Sheriff's Office, Clerk of Courts, along with your judicial officers, Tax Collector, and the Supervisor of Elections. Division also provides professional property acquisition, management, and leasing services. And the Capital Improvement Program in this division is 5.3 million in this proposed budget, and the primary focus will be on air-conditioning, heating and ventilation repairs, roofing projects, and general building repairs. Project management in FY18 is focused on jail facilities and structural improvements of other Sheriff's Office facilities. Commissioners, those are the highlights of the Public Utilities Department budget. Thank you for your attention and your continued guidance. And we're here to answer any questions you might have. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I don't have any questions. I just want to commend the staff and Dr. George for the way they've handled all of the utility work in District 2; the Vanderbilt Drive perfect storm. You know, we toured that with Dr. George a few weeks ago, and the idea of having an on-site kind of command center or troubleshooting center was really, really important, I think, to the residents there, and they really appreciated that. I know when I first started and the construction started, I was getting a lot of emails, a lot of calls. Great job in expediting the schedule and being responsive to the owners there, because they -- I think they all really appreciate it. June 15, 2017 Page 121 And I am glad to say that the number of daily emails and calls has gone way down. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's because he's getting it all. It's at that little office on site. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I mean, I think it's -- you know, just so everyone knows, Dr. George was able to expedite the schedule to get the first couple of roads paved, and once that happened and everybody saw what the final product was going to be, I think everyone breathed a sigh of relief and is very, very appreciative. So my hats off to staff; really a great job in taking a tough situation for a lot of people and turning it into a positive. So thank you very much. MR. YILMAZ: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? (No response.) CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, thank you so much. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, there you are. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Being that I've been out of commission a little bit -- oh, there's a little play on words there. Being that I've been away just a little bit, I was wondering, George, in your department, how are things going with all this rain and everything down in Goodland replacing that water system? MR. YILMAZ: All good, Commissioner. We're good. COMMISSIONER FIALA: It's moving along even with all that rain, huh? MR. YILMAZ: We're moving along. Delays are marginal, and we're on schedule. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. Thank you very much. MR. YILMAZ: Our pleasure. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No questions. June 15, 2017 Page 122 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just -- we've talked about two utility systems, the one in Golden Gate City, the FGUA system, and then I think there's been some conversation about Everglades City. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Oh, boy, do we. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Is there anything we need to be prepared for in terms of budgets for any of those two issues that are kind of percolating around? MR. YILMAZ: Commissioner, not at this time; however, we do have working draft documents coming before the Board for -- one agenda item deals with FGA, and that will lay out what the steps are. Thereafter, whatever is needed, we'll bring it before you through our County Manager's Office. And Everglades is still in litigation and pending, and we're standing by. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's it? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Uh-huh. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I just wanted to thank you, Dr. George, for what you did during the fires. I've heard from more than one fire chief that the pressure was in those hydrants and that it was because of the Public Utilities, that you really addressed it and, County Manager, this is to your credit also; when you have an emergency, everybody worked it for this. MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Everybody did. And you were there at all hours, and I -- you know, I really want to thank you on behalf of everyone. It's just great. MR. YILMAZ: Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. And I want to take this opportunity to thank over 430 strong men and women working 24/7 three shifts. And you're right, we had to produce about five to six million gallons additional water underrun, at June 15, 2017 Page 123 the same time move our water supply from south water wellfield to other wellfields, and we were able to capitalize and optimize our infrastructure so that not only we could energize and pressurize 951 corridor but also newly energize Immokalee corridor all the way to fairgrounds. And that, I think, did help tremendously creating a water barrier. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: And so I guess the final question; you ready to play ball on 305? MR. YILMAZ: Yes, ma'am. We've got to build it fast. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's a leading statement. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: It's going to happen. It's going to happen. And so, finally, Dennis, how's that little boy? I thought you'd bring him in here today. MR. LINGUIDI: We're good. He's growing fast. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Is he looking like you more and more? MR. LINGUIDI: Unfortunately. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. If there's no other questions, thank you very much. Management Offices (Pelican Bay) MR. OCHS: Commissioners, that moves us to your review of your management office budgets. I think we would lead with the review of our Pelican Bay budget and Mr. Dorrill, and the rest of those are really more by exception or question than formal presentation. MR. DORRILL: How you doing? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: All by yourself? MR. DORRILL: Seems like I have been most of my life when I've sat in this room. In fact, it's nice to see Commissioner Saunders. When I last had the opportunity to work with him, our sons had just been born, and my boy just graduated from college two weeks ago, so June 15, 2017 Page 124 I hope you're right there, too. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Both of mine have graduated as well. MR. DORRILL: Good. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: You're aging both of us in terms of -- MR. DORRILL: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for the opportunity. And for those of you who are new on the Commission, and by way of introduction, the Pelican Bay Services Division is a special purpose and dependent district of county government, so we're a little different in respects to the size and the scope of our activities. We exist primarily as a public works and conservation entity, and we work alongside the foundation there. But we raise non-ad valorem assessments and ad valorem taxes to fulfill a variety of needs. We own almost 500 streetlights that are rapidly being converted to LED technology. We maintain over three million square feet of sodded areas, and over 100 landscape medians. In addition, the people of Pelican Bay are very proud of the fact that they're one of the few entities in the state of Florida that is using property tax revenue to renourish their beach. Statewide, the model is state revenue and tourist taxes, but in the case of Pelican Bay, it's entirely property-tax driven as a portion of what they do. They're very proud of that. I will tell you your current advisory board has some of the most talented people that I have ever worked for and include two public administrators retired, one of whom spent 20 years as a superintendent of schools who this year is chairman. We have four engineers, one of whom is a retired executive vice president, pharmaceutical giant, worldwide responsibility. We have a banker. We have the general manager of the Naples Grande Hotel, and highly sophisticated people. With me today is the past chairman of our cost-reduction June 15, 2017 Page 125 committee and the current budget chair, Mic Shepherd, who spent a lifetime in engineering and general contracting, and I say that to say that we have a budget that is advanced to you on a majority vote of, I believe it was, 7-1 that day with the two absent. Next year's budget does include a modest increase of 10 percent. Ten percent seems high, but I will tell you, given the relatively low amount of our non-ad valorem assessment, a 10 percent increase in this particular case is $5.10 per month or $61 per year to do all of the things that we're doing. Including our new activities, we're accumulating and banking $200,000 a year for future beach renourishment work in a special fund, and we're doing that with the same number of full-time county employees. We do have a very difficult labor model there. Half of our employees come to us by way of contracted day labor. And I'll just tell you, in the current economy, that is a brutal market for which to be looking for and motivating and retaining our workforce. With that in mind, and just as a brief aside, we just, at our meeting last week, recognized an employee and nominated him to the County Manager's values and practices recognition, an individual, Hispanic, who came to work for us almost 25 years ago as a groundskeeper, and he worked for 24 years as a groundskeeper until he received an opportunity and was just recently promoted to a senior crew leader in our irrigation system. I think that speaks very well of the County Commission as an employer. And so as a three-minute civics lesson, that's a little bit about what we do, how we do it, and who we do it for, in this case, our very hands-on advisory board. We do have five major funds. We have eight special cost centers. And as it relates to next year's budget, I can tell you where the increases are that are resulting in this $5-per-month increase. In 2005, in anticipation of a potential annexation into the City of June 15, 2017 Page 126 Naples, the division depleted all of its cash reserves and did not levy assessments in that particular year in anticipation that if they annexed, they didn't want to come into the city general government with a bunch of special revenue they had raised themselves. For the better part of the last 10 years, they have not gotten back up to a CPI adjusted level of where their assessments would have been had they not levied an assessment and depleted their reserves. So there has been a great deal of catch-up work in the last couple of years since my arrival in a contract capacity, and the leading one of which is contracted tree trimming and pruning. This year we would have spent, and next year, rather, almost $300,000 in trimming and pruning their canopy tree and hardwood trees that are along the main boulevards that they are extremely proud of. But $300,000 next year is an increase of 114,000. We have budgeted an increase of almost $30,000 in our contracted day labor. We have increases in our irrigation cost in anticipation of Dr. Yilmaz's annual rate increase, and then we have $113,000 in operating capital improvements. We are not part of your closed, captured motor pool cost recovery program. We have to raise our own cash in order to purchase equipment at the time that it is needed. We go through the same type of analysis as do other county departments and divisions, but in this case there's not an incremental or allocated expense that accumulates monthly or quarter that then automatically has funds to replace that vehicle or that piece of equipment at the time. So we're on kind of a cash basis, if you will, and so we are accumulating cash, and we'll spend $113,000 next year replacing three vehicles and one Kaboda utility-type vehicle and then some of our skid mowers that we use there. So that's, essentially, an overview and the primary increases in our budget next year. Quick snap of, long term, some of the things that we would like to June 15, 2017 Page 127 work on. We met recently with Dr. Yilmaz's staff. Our facility, the one that was originally constructed by Westinghouse Communities, is now almost 40 years old, and it is a very decrepit frame structure in need of a new roof that has old masonite-type siding on it that has not really held up very well over the course of time. We would like to build a new sort of pre-engineered metal butler-type building to give us a place to combine our administrative function. We lease space currently in one of the Class A office towers there in Pelican Bay. We don't really need to do that. So we've just started some discussions with them about the possibility of making an investment on land that the utility division owns on your behalf. We'll be trying to contemplate some type of land lease or instrument that will give the services division a property interest in order to come back and recommend to you at another day some major capital improvements. Thank you for your time. Thank you for the privilege of being able to work on your behalf there in Pelican Bay. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Public Comments MR. CASALANGUIDA: Commissioners, you have two public speakers. Actually one that's been ceded time. Dr. Joseph Doyle, ceded time by Sandra Doyle. DR. DOYLE: Hi. Good afternoon, Commissioners. Dr. Joseph Doyle on behalf of my mother, Sandy Doyle, who's the property owner in Pelican Bay. I actually agree with a lot of what Mr. Dorrill had to say. There was the thought that Pelican Bay Services Divisions might merge in with the city back in 2005, so they did spend down some reserves; however, I do disagree with some of the other stuff that he said. June 15, 2017 Page 128 When we had the financial crash in 2007, for about four or five years there the assessment was around 370 to $398. But then -- and it was to, you know, kind of soften the blow for what was happening. After that, we saw in 2015 the assessment increased to 426, then it increased to 508 in 2016, and then this year it's 591, and then for next year they want to make it 652. And as we said, those were 15 to 19 percent increases. This year it's going to be a 10 percent increase. Well, that is much higher than the CPI. We can go through the whole thing. We can debate, you know, what the CPI -- if you want to look back at what it was in 2007, et cetera. The 652 is way out of line. I think that actually they got more -- when we got to the 508 in 2016, we were on par with the CPI. So I think you've been misled there in the figures. A lot of -- but to his point, the community is hitting 40 years old, and there's a lot of stuff that needs to be replaced. But I think what we're looking at here is that we have a diverse community. And I know it's probably one of the wealthiest communities in Collier County. We have 8 percent of the property base. We are over six billion dollars of property base for the county. So, you know, we're a net donor to county operations, okay. However, we have this MSTBU that -- you know, we have people who are keeping the grounds with salary and benefits making $60,000 per person to mow the lawn. Why can't we find some efficiencies with some contract labor instead of making them government employees? Okay. Now, Mr. Shepherd, who he was referring to, is here today. He was on the Ad Hoc Cost Containment Committee. But I will tell you, there was a special meeting -- and you can look in the archives -- in November of last year, 2016, and some of the major recommendations were not implemented. Okay. So we have an issue here with cost control. I think that the June 15, 2017 Page 129 services division could be run a little bit more efficiently. And also, we're mowing about 20 to 25 percent of foundation property. So, you know, we can look at that, too. There's some issues here that have been discussed back and forth on -- by the advisory board. Of course, the majority doesn't agree with that particular vision. Now, I think what we're really finding here, though, is with these increases in the non-ad valorem assessment, and then speaking with Commissioner Solis, who was gracious to talk to me last week for a half an hour, it's really becoming apparent that the non-ad valorem part of assessment is coming to light. Now, why do I say that? Well, when you have the ad valorem assessment -- which is what we have right now for the street-lighting fund, 778, street-lighting and security -- it was security. Now it's just all street-lighting -- that protects the homeowner from the increase in the property value, the Save Our Homestead exemption. But the non-ad valorem assessment that I'm talking about here today, this 652, that keeps going up and up, and there's no cap on that. So I believe what's happening is that a lot of these maintenance and operational expenses -- for instance, for the groundskeepers and for maintaining the Pelican Bay office and those sorts of things -- are erroneously being put into the non-ad valorem part of the assessment and should be in the ad valorem part of the assessment, and then some of these capital improvements that Mr. Dorrill is talking about, such as a new little building that they need and this sort of thing, that should be in the non-ad valorem. Because my mother -- there are 92 communities in Pelican Bay. My mother lives in one of the lower end. Okay. Lower end still being a $400,000 property. But she doesn't live in the multi-million. Okay. Her property taxes for the county last year were $518, but her assessment for Pelican Bay was 591. She's paying more for MSTBU than she is for county taxes. June 15, 2017 Page 130 Now, Mr. Shepherd, okay, his were 1,480 for the county, and he pays 591 to Pelican Bay. And, of course, you know one of the prominent people who's on the Board, his property tax just for the county part was 2,700 and pays 591 for Pelican Bay. They're all paying 591 for Pelican Bay. But for my mother, if you look at her total tax bill, 23-and-a-half percent of her bill is going to this assessment; Mr. Shepherd's 10.8 percent; and the other person, 6.2 percent. These board members do not feel her pain. We have to do something with the ad valorem versus the non-ad valorem assessments here, please. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Mr. Solis, do you have any questions for -- Mr. Solis -- Commissioner Solis, do you have any questions for the speaker? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No, not for Mr. Doyle. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I had a couple for Mr. Dorrill. DR. DOYLE: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Go ahead. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Just -- could you just give me an idea, the special assessment portion of what's being levied, what specifically do those special assessments go to provide? I guess I'm not close enough to my microphone. Sorry. MR. DORRILL: The non-ad valorem special assessment, most closely compared to the same type of structure for independent community development districts, breaks down as follows: Of the $652, $133 goes into water management and drainage associated projects and conservation areas and exotic mitigation for which there are extensive preserves there that are owned by the Board of County Commissioners, maintained and kept exotic-free by the services division on your behalf. June 15, 2017 Page 131 Landscape and beautification is the majority of what we do, $401. Clam Bay, you know, several years ago and historically they have been the stewards of Clam Bay. They're spending $21.07 of their own money in addition to a contribution from your Unincorporated Area Fund 111. And then they, next year, will spend $97 on capital projects. The total is $650 or, as I said, an increase of about $61 or $5 a month. But that's the breakout. Street-lighting, historically, going back to the 1970s, has always been done as a taxing district, and so this one was set up the same way. And so their streetlight program is currently -- they are looking at, long range, broadening that and asking you, potentially, to consider an ordinance amendment. There is widespread concerns over the qualities of the pathways in Pelican Bay along the main boulevards that are all asphalt, one of the few places in the county, and just very difficult to maintain, especially with their canopy and trees and a lot of root upheaval. There's strong interest in a preliminary set of construction plans to do a demonstration project and install wider concrete sidewalks, and the desired source of funds to do that would require an ordinance amendment. And so there is some thought being given to taking the sidewalks off of your hands and using, in this case, ad valorem tax dollars to broaden their appeal and maintenance programs there. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: But that's not in this -- that's not in this budget? MR. DORRILL: That's separate. Streetlights are currently separate and, potentially in the future, sidewalk repair and maintenance, which is not currently one of our responsibilities. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And the projects for which the special assessments are used, all of that methodology and all the June 15, 2017 Page 132 apportionment and all that was done years ago. MR. DORRILL: Yeah. The original methodology was done in the '70s. You know, Pelican Bay is somewhat unique. It and Reedy Creek, which is now Walt Disney World, were the first community improvement districts in the state of Florida. Most people don't realize that. But at the very conception of the community by Westinghouse, there was a methodology study that performed that assigned a certain number of equivalent dwelling units to each parcel of land. And, you know, I'm sensitive to Dr. Doyle and some of the more modest communities that are there, but at the same time, we also send non-ad valorem assessments to Artis Naples, the Archdiocese of Venice through their Catholic church that is there. The county park site and the county utility site are all paying their proportionate fair share of a flat rate of assessment, which is really kind of a novel way of having tax exempt entities also contribute and pay their fair share. So that's -- on the flip side, the fact that Artis Naples is paying us the equivalent of almost $30,000 a year in non-ad valorem assessments is money that we would otherwise not have that we would have to pass through to residential property owners. Good point. Philosophical sort of debate, but I think there are pros and cons both ways. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And it was -- the approval for this budget by the Board was a 7-1 vote, you said? MR. DORRILL: 7-1 with two absent that day. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No other questions. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. I don't have any. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Nothing from me. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Just two. June 15, 2017 Page 133 And I appreciate you sharing that information with me with regard to the capacity to charge typically tax exempt organizations a pro rata share of the overall expenses. Have you looked -- I mean, because Dr. Doyle brings up a good point. Have you looked at a different -- if you change the methodology of how you charged on a -- similar to an ad valorem percentage but not -- but still on a non-ad valorem assessment, would -- have you looked at it to be able to ascertain if there's a different way to do it to have a more equitable distribution? MR. DORRILL: We are, and that's why I wanted to give you a little sneak preview and allude to the fact there is a strong interest in the community to take the sidewalks off your hands and go to more of a blended rate and target; in this case, the source of funds would be ad valorem funds, which is the thought thus far. Now, I need to bring back a formal proposal to you. But at this point, we are sort of headed in that direction as more of a blended rate of revenue generation as opposed to the historical process that we've used. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. And my other question -- you made mention you're kind of running on a cash basis with regard to your rolling stock and equipment and that sort of thing. Would it be possible for us -- because I was, in the last presentation, told we have a rather robust program in place to ascertain the useful life and then programming, if you will, with regard to the replacement. Is that something we, the county, could offer to you to be utilized? MR. DORRILL: We're required to use your repair facilities and your software cost analysis program to make decisions. The thing that we're not doing is -- and I'm not the one who's qualified to talk about how you capture a capital recovery cost either on a millage or on a depreciation sort of basis. But when it comes to replace that vehicle or that piece of equipment, we have to have cash on hand as opposed to June 15, 2017 Page 134 cash that has been accumulated over time in what I'll call your motor pool or enterprise fund. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And we -- I was told -- I was told -- at least I understood that we have a program like that, and can we offer that to you? Would that be of assistance? MR. DORRILL: You do. In fact -- and the budget committee looks at their recommendations for capital replacement as part of their budget deliberation. I can show you the analysis that was done this year, because it was very helpful. It includes some life-cycle cost and actual repairs and projected repairs based on engine hours or mileage of the equipment on hand. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So we're already doing that? MR. DORRILL: And it's pretty sophisticated. I think that you ought to take a look at that. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, I -- okay. Good. I just understood you to say that you were on a cash basis with regard -- MR. DORRILL: For replacement. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's for replacement, okay. MR. DORRILL: And just in theory -- and Leo or Mark can correct me if I'm wrong. I think the other divisions and departments, they may be paying a mileage charge so that when a replacement is necessary, that cash comes from the motor pool fund to make the capital outlay as opposed to in our case it comes from our funds in order to make the replacement. MR. ISACKSON: Just to add to what Neil said, that's one of the reasons why we can try and not include the funds that are either MSTU or MSTBU because we don't want to adversely affect their particular either tax rate and/or assessment. So -- but just to reinforce what Mr. Dorrill said, the Fleet Management Department regularly puts out a schedule of equipment to June 15, 2017 Page 135 be replaced based on the nuances that were talked about earlier, and every one of the departments, including MSTUs and BUs, receive those lists, so... COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. It was just something that sounded like we had that you weren't able to necessarily utilize, and I wanted to make sure you could. MR. DORRILL: We are, including our small engine equipment. It extends to that as well. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I just -- are you finished? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'm done. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I just -- I think one of the -- because I do appreciate what Dr. Doyle is saying about the amount of the assessment compared to the value of the property. I think the -- I mean, the problem is is that it's a non-ad valorem assessment. It's not based upon the value of the property. That's why -- I mean, specifically, that's the nature of it. It's based on the benefit to the property of whatever's being provided. And, you know, that -- the methodology for how that is apportioned to each property was established in the '70s, right? MR. DORRILL: Well -- and, again, we are evaluating some blended sources for new areas that would be new to us. But, you know, the flip side of that argument is just because you're rich and you live in a $10 million home in Bay Colony, is your benefit in the beautiful medians and streetscapes and canopy trees and positive drainage any different than someone who lives in a 400- or $500,000, for lack of a better term, entry-level condominium neighborhood? And that's the theory behind what the Florida legislature refers to as the uniform rate of assessment and the method that is behind that. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Well, as long as we can -- we can try to figure out a way to somehow address that, I think that would be helpful. June 15, 2017 Page 136 MR. DORRILL: I think sometime towards the end of summer or early fall, if the Board recommends, you are going to see me come back before you and ask you to consider an ordinance amendment that would allow us to get into the sidewalk construction and maintenance business, and the intended source of funds would be ad valorem. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Dr. Doyle talked about the cost of labor for landscaping. Is that something that you've addressed as the Board, and have you considered contracting out? Do you have landscape folks that are making $60,000? MR. DORRILL: Well, they don't make $60,000 a year, but if you take into account the cost of their group health insurance and life insurance and, I presume, dental program, that's about $1,000 a month. And so if I have my gentleman who spent a quarter of a century as a groundskeeper, it is conceivable that he's making 39- or $40,000 after 25 years in that range. But if you add on the cost of his insurance and his Florida Retirement Service contributions, you can get up to $60,000. And that's why, historically, the model that is there requires us to use -- half of our labor is contracted day labor under an annual contract that's let through the Purchasing Department. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's a requirement, or is that an option? MR. DORRILL: That is -- that is the model that has been in place there for probably 20 years. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So have you thought about changing that model? MR. DORRILL: They have -- they, the Board, have discussed that extensively, and there is no interest on the part of the Board to do that. And, in fact, it might be helpful before the public hearing to share with you the cost-reduction analysis that was done and perhaps some of the pertinent meetings and minutes. The Board has typically voted 9-1 in favor of keeping or June 15, 2017 Page 137 expanding their employee-based model as opposed to trying to outsource the base-level maintenance. All of the other things that I talked about with respect to tree pruning and trimming and exotics are all currently contracted to outside vendors. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Thank you. Did you want to hear from Dr. Doyle again or no? COMMISSIONER SOLIS: If you'd like. Did Dr. Doyle have something else he wanted to say? DR. DOYLE: I did. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I'll allow this. DR. DOYLE: Thank you, Commissioners. I just wanted -- you've been misled about one thing. We have not always been non-ad valorem. We were all ad valorem when this all first started with Westinghouse. In 1993 the then sitting board came up with a scheme because they went with top-tier homes, middle-tier, and low-tier, and they came up with a blended non-ad valorem assessment of $200 and change. So I'm familiar with Reedy Creek, because I did my internship at Orlando Regional Medical Center, so I know all about Disney. This did not start out that way. Back then it didn't really matter; $200 didn't look like much. But as I said, this is now rearing its ugly head. And this non-ad valorem thing that was put in in 1993 is not fair. The good news is is we still have the ad valorem 778 fund, so there is a mechanism to put the landscaping, water, what I call day-to-day operation expenses that are not truly what should be part of a non-ad valorem assessment. That should be going into an ad valorem fund. That's all I'm saying. But it was 1993 that it was converted. And Pelican Bay was already here for 15 to 18 years at that time. Thank you. June 15, 2017 Page 138 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Did you have -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. I just had a point, and I just -- you know, I certainly understand where Dr. Joe is coming from, but I also have a lot of admiration for the advisory board and the board of directors of Pelican Bay, Mr. Dorrill as well, for how they do what they do all day every day and the benefit that our community has received by the existence of this organization. Are all the decisions as equitable as they possibly can be? Is everybody going to concur with the decisions? No. But I just want to -- I want to acknowledge the great job that you're doing. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It's an extraordinary group of people. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, you know, it bodes well, because you heard me say in prior discussion about our lack of utilization of the tremendous amount of knowledge that we have within our community, and that typifies that existent resource that our county's not taking enough of an advantage of, so... MR. DORRILL: Thank you, again. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thanks. MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, if I may, the remaining part of management offices essentially consists of County Manager's budget. Oh, I'm sorry. You want to go to a break? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah, I just -- no, Terri's fading here. So would you like a break? Can we do 10 minutes? MR. ISACKSON: My fault. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No, no. It's my fault. I wasn't paying attention. Thank you. (A brief recess was had.) MR. OCHS: Ma'am, you have a live mic. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. And so where are we? June 15, 2017 Page 139 MR. OCHS: Commissioners, we're down to your debt service. Take about a minute. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Wait a second. We have to have a court reporter. We gave her a break, and she's late. Debt Service MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, Commissioners. On your sequence of events, it now takes us to debt service. Just a couple of highlights on your debt service tab. This consists of two particular debt areas: One, general governmental and, two, the county water/sewer district. A couple of highlights. We began our significant restructuring of our debt back in 2010, and you can see from the numbers the product of that restructuring effort that was ongoing. On the utilities side, most recently we took out about $87-and-a-half million of SRF loans restructured into a longer-term bank note, and the interest rate there was 1.8 percent. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Well done. MR. ISACKSON: So I think that's the debt. The numbers speak for themselves. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No questions. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? (No response.) CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No, good job. MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, sir. County Attorney would be up next. MR. KLATZKOW: Yes. And traditionally we just sit here and take your questions. June 15, 2017 Page 140 CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No, no. We're not going to let you. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: We want you to come over here. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: There's nothing traditional today, sir. You're going to have to present. He tried it, didn't he? COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm getting sound now. It wasn't there for a few minutes. I'm sorry. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala, did you have any questions of Mr. Isackson regarding debt service? COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, I didn't -- I could just see him talking, but I couldn't hear him. I just got in now. So I have no questions, but I didn't see anything in advance either. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Thank you very much. So, Mr. Klatzkow. County Attorney MR. KLATZKOW: We do our job best when we're invisible. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: It's not working. MR. KLATZKOW: For example, we have no land use cases. We haven't had a land use case in this county of significance in years, because I have an excellent team over at Horseshoe working with the County Manager's excellent team over at Horseshoe, working with Mark Strain to make sure when things get to you there are no problems. So whatever decision you make, the decision holds. We work very well with Jeff Walker and his people. And when you go through the litigation report, you'll see we have an outstanding record because of that when it comes to slip and falls and other actions against the county. Over the years my people and the County Manager's people have developed some very good relationships, very strong relationships, and June 15, 2017 Page 141 it's been to the substantial benefit of the county because of that. And, again, we operate best when you don't hear of us, when you don't see us, because you know we're not messing up. I'd be happy to take any questions. MR. OCHS: Commissioners, we couldn't get our job done without the County Attorney and his staff, bottom line. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's right. MR. OCHS: We appreciate everything he does for us. MR. KLATZKOW: Yeah. And without insulting any other division, I think I've got the best people in the county. And we spend a lot of time training, cross-training, and I've got very good people, and because of that I get to do a decent job. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala, any questions? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No questions except I can verify they do a great job, and they have a good leader, too. MR. KLATZKOW: Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No questions. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I just wanted to say, Mr. Klatzkow, when I call, you answer. You always get back to me with -- if you don't know the answer right then and there, you do the research and you get back to me. And it's a pleasure working with you. You're such a big part of keeping the taxpayers' money in the taxpayers' pocket, so thank you for what you do. MR. KLATZKOW: It's an absolute pleasure working for this Board. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good. Thank you. MR. OCHS: Commissioner, that concludes any of the presentations. We're at the wrap-up portion of the workshop. Any additional questions or comments or direction that the Board has for us at this point we're here to take. June 15, 2017 Page 142 Board of County Commissioners CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I have a question about the budget of us, the Commissioners. Is that -- where is that? Could we just discuss that a little bit because I'm not -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: It's right here. I think the Chair should go forth and present. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, I didn't -- no, no, this is our County Manager. No, heck no, not me. I just -- give me -- what is your budget? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: It's right here. It's right -- it's in the last tab under -- well, under us, Board of County Commissioners. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: It's more that -- can we just go over what -- MR. OCHS: Certainly. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: It's more just informational. What, you know -- MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- that kind of thing. MR. ISACKSON: Ma'am, if you go to tab -- on Page 6 under the tab that Commissioner McDaniel was talking about, you'll see that portion of the budget that I think has direct impact on your operations. And each one -- if you go into the accounting system that we have, each commissioner has a specific cost center that they have, and I'm sure your aides have briefed you on that, and then there's a general cost center that is kind of a catchall cost center for general overhead items, things of that nature. Now, the real question is do you think -- do you think your individual cost centers are enough to accomplish your particular goals and objectives? That's the issue. You meet guidance, so... June 15, 2017 Page 143 MR. OCHS: Mark, let's go over Page 7 real quickly so the Board understands how we manage those costs. MR. ISACKSON: Yeah. I was -- my original comments related to Page 6 only because that's the particular section that really pertains to your particular costs. MR. OCHS: Yeah, those are the five of you and your five aides. That's the operating expenses for that office on Page 6. MR. ISACKSON: Page 7 is what we call other general administrative costs. And you'll see a specific breakdown of those costs under the program summary there. The Department of Juvenile Justice payments, the Naples CRA payments, our payments for unemployment comp, various insurance payments throughout the division within the General Fund, our corporate countywide costs that I put together intending to make that cost center very flexible for use throughout the course of the year and, of course, our auditing costs. That represents -- while it's underneath your mantra, it is really something that our office puts together, for the most part, based on the information that we receive. So the other general administrative section is in 111, and you'll see under that particular program summary the costs related to that item. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. MR. ISACKSON: So any questions, I'll be happy to answer them. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No. I think that's what I wanted to -- we're not doing too bad. We have a bit of an increase in 2018, but it's really a decrease. MR. ISACKSON: That increase is really in the areas that I had outlined just a minute ago, specifically for the Naples CRA and things of that nature. So it has nothing to do with your specific cost June 15, 2017 Page 144 containment areas. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. On Page 6, the million-two, you divide that by five, that's basically our office budget, and that includes salaries. MR. ISACKSON: And I don't know -- each of your salaries, I think, are somewhat different. I'm not so sure. I'd have to go back and look at a report, but... COMMISSIONER SOLIS: But, essentially, I mean, that's -- that's the number for all five of us, including staff salaries. MR. OCHS: Commissioner McDaniel wanted to make sure he wasn't getting shorted here. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, I just knew Commissioner Saunders had worked a deal where he was making more than me. MR. CASALANGUIDA: One dollar. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I've been around a long time. I knew how to do that. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes, sir. Well, I know. It's that Tallahassee trip or two. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. MR. OCHS: Any other questions on the board budget, Madam Chair? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala, any questions? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, not now, but maybe one day I'll sit down with somebody in my office and talk to them. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Thank you very much. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Madam Chair, I'd like to make just one comment before we wrap up. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I've been through a lot of June 15, 2017 Page 145 budget hearings, went through a lot of budget hearings when I was on the County Commission back in the stone ages, and then went through a lot of budget discussions when I was in the legislature, and I have to tell you, this is one of the best, if not the best in terms of clarity, the presentations. So I want to congratulate the County Manager and County Attorney and all the staff that took part in this. It's very well done. MR. OCHS: Thank you, Commissioner, on behalf of the staff. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Beautifully said, Commissioner Saunders. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Any other comments, questions, Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, nothing else from me. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Thank you. MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, I'm probably going to regret that I'm raising this, you know, but the next time we're going to talk to you about the budget is when we come to you at your July meeting to set your maximum tentative ad valorem millage. So, you know, the sooner we know if there's any work that you need us to do in advance of that the better. Is that obscure enough for everybody? We'll take into consideration the items that you identified today. You know, Conservation Collier is the 800-pound gorilla in the room. And I don't know if you want to save that discussion for July 11th and we'll do that on the floor as we deal with that item or whether you want to have any advance discussion on that either today or during your comments section at your board meeting but -- you know, your second meeting in June. Enough said. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Well, I'm -- you know -- and you mentioned that they may want to -- they may come here; they're not here, which is the Chamber of Commerce. That's not a reflection -- a June 15, 2017 Page 146 negative reflection on you, sir. But I think we've got a situation where there are two entities, us and the Chamber of Commerce, with great intentions of trying to fund not only Conservation Collier -- I think they call it a green tax -- but also infrastructure and workforce housing through an initiative with a sales -- a sur -- surtax; is that correct? I want to be very clear. Surcharge on the sales tax; is that correct? Is that their correct -- MR. ISACKSON: It's an infrastructure surtax, yes. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Infrastructure surtax. And not to -- I don't want both of these entities to collide. The other aspect that was my mistake, but now I'm questioning -- you know, I thought that we would go ahead and acquire properties until such time as -- obviously, it's going to be after the ad valorem is levied in October, but that if for some reason the public didn't approve it, that that ad valorem tax would be refunded to our taxpayers. That is not -- not what we agreed. So I'm questioning now, with the initiative of the Chamber, where we stand with it. I'm still open. But what I'd like to do is perhaps -- I know I shouldn't say this, but I know we have a two-day meeting probably at our next meeting, but I think it's very, very timely to bring the Chamber in to bring this -- their initiative to us. And I would bow to my colleagues here, because I certainly don't -- I believe in Conservation Collier. I worked with Commissioner Saunders in the Penny for Paradise so long ago. I mean, it was the very, very first initiative, and he was, I think, extremely courageous to bring it forward. We're asking taxpayers, do you want to tax yourselves for green, and it didn't go forward, but it was the beginning of it because then a few years later, maybe two years later, the City of Naples, the first time in the history of the whole county, the citizens agreed to buy, for the tune of, I think it was, 9 or 12 million -- I don't remember -- dollars a piece of property that was scheduled to be June 15, 2017 Page 147 Walgreens right next to the Coastland Mall and leave it the way it is. And so it was the -- you started this, you know. And I've never forgotten that and had such a great deal of respect for your continued advocacy to preserve land for this community into the future. MR. OCHS: Madam Chair, let me be clear. And I apologize if I wasn't. With regard to setting the maximum tentative millage rate in July -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: We could do it. MR. OCHS: -- you could certainly maintain your quarter mill, and if you decide in the September public hearings that you want to amend that in any way, that is go lower -- you can't go higher at that point -- you can certainly do that. So I don't mean to box you into any early decisions. I'm just trying to get a feel for, you know, how fast and how hard we're going to go at this. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Commissioner Saunders, you want to take it? COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: That's all good points, Madam Chair. Obviously, you don't want two tax initiatives on the ballot at the same time. And so I think -- with what the County Manager just said, I think -- and what you just said, the Chamber's on notice now that we have an interest in hearing what they have to say. And if they're ready to come to us in July, fine. If they're not ready until September, that will work as well. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: We'll have a bit of a policy issue decision to make in July, and that is, do we want to have anything in the proposed millage for Conservation Collier. And I think that we probably would want to keep something in that just in case we want to go forward with it. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Right. June 15, 2017 Page 148 COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: But the final decision on Conservation Collier will be in September. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. MR. OCHS: And I'm -- you know, based on my limited knowledge of the Chamber's efforts to date, I'm not sure they're ready to come to you in a public forum and tell you they have all of the answers by July. So I think you're probably heading down the road that Commissioner Saunders has outlined -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. MR. OCHS: -- which is fine. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah. All right. Good. Anything else? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Oh, yeah. You want to go to Commissioner Fiala first before me or me? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah. Just a fast question. Thank you very much. Can you tell me again -- I know you've said it before but not at this meeting -- how much money would be -- would be received if we used that quarter mill versus that 10 percent (sic) mill for Conservation Collier? MR. ISACKSON: Commissioner, Mark Isackson. You're going to raise about $20.8 million at a quarter of a mill; at a tenth of a mill, about 8.3 million. COMMISSIONER FIALA: And that's every single year, right? MR. ISACKSON: Well, that's this particular cycle, the FY18 tax cycle. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Until we go to referendum when we decide whether we want to do it for -- MR. ISACKSON: And that would be part of your FY19 deliberation then. June 15, 2017 Page 149 COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay, good. Thank you very much for clarifying. Thank you. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. And I have a couple of points I'd like to make. Since we're on the 800-pound gorilla, let's talk about it. I had proposed what I perceived to be a pretty nifty compromise with regard to Conservation Collier, and Commissioner Saunders took hold of a portion of that compromise in utilizing some of the reserves that we have, appropriating those over to acquisitions immediately. The rationale I had was -- because I read the ordinance that created Conservation Collier. I see a lot of what I perceive to be as inefficiencies or -- I don't want to call them deficiencies, but things that can be enhanced within the organization of Conservation Collier, both from an operational standpoint and an acquisition standpoint. And I didn't say the last part because I really thought that that was a fairly nifty compromise. It put up to $17 million to Conservation Collier. If you take their A and B list, combine the estimated value of the properties that they want in A and B as less than 10 million, it gave us two years, two budget cycles to work on the acquisition side of Conservation Collier and the operational side. The second portion of that that I didn't talk about -- and it might be just -- I'm not experienced enough at this, but I had actually thought and wanted to propose, in lieu of the .25, .10 for Conservation Collier on a binding referendum, .10 for infrastructure, and .10 for parks all three of which, on a binding referendum -- and the rationale there that I had -- have, even today, is that the majority of the taxpaying electorate, if given the opportunity to have a say-so, a bit of a say-so with regard to the expenditure of their tax monies, would support whatever -- in one, two, three; three separate binding referendums. That way there the organizations that wanted to rally up in support tax increase for June 15, 2017 Page 150 green, as you spoke of earlier, could do so, and same with those for infrastructure and workforce housing in this. And I really didn't have -- those were the three that I had in my mind in lieu of us implementing a .25 increase and devoting it strictly for Conservation Collier. And I didn't propose that when I brought forward that compromise several months ago when Conservation Collier came up in front of us with regard to the budget initiative so -- and I apologize for not talking about my whole plan. It was a bit of a -- probably egotistical. I couldn't really believe that anybody wouldn't like my plan. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: The nerve. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You, sir -- you, sir, have that problem? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Imagine that. Imagine that. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: You, too? COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So with that, that's my thoughts on Conservation Collier. And I understand we've got some more time to talk more about it and maybe come up with a different way to get to where we're going. So I do want to have a discussion, while we're talking about taxes -- and I know that our County Manager's looked crooked at me twice -- and it has to do with the ordinance that was adopted last year with regard to the unincorporated area and the landscape maintenance and such. And I'd like to -- you know, and, again, if we're talking about taxes -- and I said this at the beginning of this process, I'm not opposed to assisting our electorate in having a reduction there if we can have a legible (sic) discussion about it. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: If there's -- and also, if there is -- and there will probably be some time before we need to talk about the decision about the levy of the 2.5 mills. I had a very interesting conversation with Mr. Jenkins yesterday June 15, 2017 Page 151 after he spent most of the day here on Tuesday, and he -- as someone who knows the land, hunts the land -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- and also was on Conservation Collier for a number of years, there is some concern -- and I've heard it from another corridor, that perhaps we need to reevaluate the land that Conservation Collier has and to see if there's a mechanism, if we agree, if there's criteria, and if they don't meet the criteria, for whatever reason -- I'm not suggesting that it's a nefarious thing, but that if there could be a vehicle, perhaps, to address lands that perhaps could go to another reason in order to buy other lands. That's probably not in the ordinance as it sits. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And that was where I was -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I haven't read the ordinance, but, you know, there is one -- and it's funny, two corridors. There's this piece of property that we own as Conservation Collier, and adjacent to that property is the most beautiful stand of old growth cypress in the urban area, and it is urban now. And why can't we buy that? Well, it was very expensive. Well, you know, life goes on, and this is a different day. So there are some thoughts of this. And I -- If we could look at it and -- COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Oh, I think we should. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- agree. So, Commissioner Fiala, do you have anything to add to this, ma'am? COMMISSIONER FIALA: I think that's an excellent discussion, because there were so many things inland that we, I think in the beginning, imagined to put in preservation forever so that we would have green space right in front -- in the urban area, but somehow that didn't happen very much or very often, and I would still like to go back to that because, I agree, we only have one shot at some of these things. June 15, 2017 Page 152 Like, for instance, that -- the tree grouping that you were just mentioning. Once it's gone, it's gone. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And that was some of the initial -- if you -- and when I did review the ordinance, there was some discussion with regard to those priorities being in the acquisitions; in some stage it shifted which, again, this was why I was proposing we have a shot at the organizational aspects both from acquisition and maintenance. And I do have one other point unrelated to that when you're done or when we're ready. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Well, I think we're done with -- okay. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: This has to do with Mr. Isackson, and this is just me talking about how we do what we've always done, Mr. Isackson. And it -- I noticed in all of our budgets and all of our divisions there's a very large carryforward that comes from one year to the next that offsets the deficits associated with the revenue streams and the expense side. Has there been -- have we had any discussion about moving our fiscal year to an annual year to better coincide with the revenue stream? MR. ISACKSON: I wouldn't suggest that, sir. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. Then we shall not. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: If there's no other discussion, just some housekeeping. We do have a very aggressive meeting coming up, and I would suggest -- hopefully I'm wrong. I would suggest that we plan on two days; is that correct, sir? MR. OCHS: Yes. Commissioners, there's at least six advertised public hearings that may end up on your next agenda, so it will be lengthy. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. Rather than -- probably rather than spend the evening here, it's probably better to do it over two days; is that correct? What? What? June 15, 2017 Page 153 MR. CASALANGUIDA: I was just saying to the Manager, we've also got tentatively the Kalea appeal on July -- MR. OCHS: In July, yes. MR. CASALANGUIDA: So between the two meetings, you have your big land use day and then appeal day that's going to be chock full, I would imagine. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. So... MR. OCHS: You may not want to make plans to leave town on July 12th. It will be July 13th. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala, are you going to be going to the FAC conference? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. Well, no, not the FAC conference, because I can't do that. But I am going to the NACo conference, but that's in July, and that's in Ohio. I'll be in Ohio already, so that won't interfere with anything. My reservations are -- July 13th was when my flight was leaving. Is that a good day or bad day? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Our meeting's on the 11th, isn't it? MR. OCHS: I think that's a grand day. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Because we'll be actually close until -- COMMISSIONER FIALA: I tried to give it an extra day, because you never can tell. MR. OCHS: If we're still here on the 13th, ma'am -- COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: You won't have a quorum if you're here. MR. OCHS: That's right. I may not have a job. Forget a quorum. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Well, if there's any other discussion? No -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: There is. Don't close yet. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Wait. Oh. June 15, 2017 Page 154 COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. I had three subject matters. I mentioned two. And you made mention of this. You said under public comment -- or commissioner comment and such, and I've been over here on the edge of my seat regarding -- I would like a little further discussion, if you would, explanation with regard to the beach access AUIR process that you were talking about. Where are you going? CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Where am I going is it's nice to look and see, as we grow, what we're providing for the millions of people -- the "million" of people that we're adding to our current population and to have -- to be able to address it from a very statistical point of view instead of saying, we don't have any more. What does that mean? You know, I understand -- I understand that former commissions, you know, not -- and present excepted. Ah, I can't even talk. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Recidivism. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No, no; recidivism. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I still can't say it. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Fiala, I'm not pointing fingers whatsoever. But, you know, for whatever reason, certain properties were sold that could have been used for parking, for access to the beaches. But you know what, we've got to look at it. City of Naples has 33 of those lovely accesses. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I know. I love those streets. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I know. And there's parking there, and they welcome -- and I think the county has 10. So I think we need to address it and look at it and keep it in mind as we go forward because, as I've said before, they're not building beaches in the east. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Correct. Well -- and that's where the population, in fact, is coming from. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's right. June 15, 2017 Page 155 COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And that was just where I was looking to go. I certainly don't have a problem in adding it in or looking at it from the AUIR process, and I really think that's a prudent idea. I just -- I was looking to hear from -- where you were coming from with -- CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's where I'm coming from. And, you know, I'm so -- I have so much respect for this county, because a lot of counties have put aside their AUIR. We haven't done it. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: We said we have a responsibility to the people who live here and the people who are coming here so that they know where we are in that measuring -- COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- that measuring yardstick, so that's why. So I'd like to see it moved back in. I understand how it was moved somewhere else. I think I want it back in for beach access. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. That's -- you know, I don't think it's an imprudent thought process. I mean, we all know we have a population increase. It's coming. COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Oh, yeah. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: We all know that access to our beaches is finite. I will commend our county -- and that's one of the things that -- you know, I've said it regularly. Back in my early days of Collier County, I had two dolphins on the payroll that swam by the pier every night at 5 o'clock, and so I believe that the access is really, really -- well, beaches in general are imperative to our community. So adding it back in -- is there a problem with that? I don't see a downside with that. I think it actually brings it to the forefront and gives us a rationale of discussion. MR. OCHS: That's fine. We treated it in the prior beach and June 15, 2017 Page 156 boat access master plan. It's never been, I don't believe, in an actual element of your AUIR, but we did -- we did treat it indirectly through that master plan. And as Barry said, he's updating his parks and recreation master plan, and that includes all your beach parks, which are your beach ends. So, yes, it's very appropriate we have that discussion. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Thank you. MR. OCHS: I have a spot already picked out for the next parking structure. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Nice. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Seagate, right? I know. He always says that, Seagate. MR. KLATZKOW: Another impact fee; beach access impact fee. COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I appreciate you bringing that up. MR. OCHS: Thank you, Jeff. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Well, thank you very much. It was a very good, productive day. MR. OCHS: Thank you, all, Commissioners. CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Meeting adjourned. June 15, 2017 ***** There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 3:22 p.m. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF SPECI ISTRICTS UNDER ITS CONTROL 5 PENNY T LOR, AIRMAN ATTEST DWIGHT E. BROCK, CLERK 2' a tha,..N,It -0 /j/1/ ' ' 7\ '4" Attest as to Chairmafl r 7 "1" s t?tttr? These minutes approved by the Board on i I i i 1 i 7 , as presented or as corrected . TRANSCRIPT PREPARED ON BEHALF OF U.S. LEGAL SUPPORT, INC., BY TERRI LEWIS, COURT REPORTER AND NOTARY PUBLIC. Page 157