EAC Minutes 03/05/2003 RMarch 5, 2003
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF
THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
NAPLES, FL
March 5, 2003
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Environmental Advisory Committee, in and for the
County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00AM in regular
session in the County Commissioners Boardroom, Building "F", 3301 Tamiami Trail, Naples
FL, with the following members present:
Members:
Thomas Sansbury
Michael G. Coe
Ken Humiston
Alfred Gal
Alexandra Santoro
Ed Carlson
John Dowd (arrived at 9:05am)
Erica Lynne and Michael Sorrell had excused absences.
Collier County: Bill Lorenz, Barb Burgeson, Stan Chrzanowski, Laura Roys, Fred Rieschell,
Doug Suitor, Ron Hovell, Maura Krauss, July Ardames Minor, and Patrick White (arrived at 9:07
am)
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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
AGENDA
March 5, 2003
9:00 A.M.
Commission Boardroom
W. Harmon Turner Building (Building "F") - Third Floor
II.
III.
IV.
Roll Call
Approval of Agenda
Approval of February 5, 2003 Meeting Minutes
Land Use Petitions
Am
Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDA-2002-AR-2240
Development of Regional Impact No. DRI-86-1
"Twelve Lakes PUD/DRI"
Section 4, Township 50 South, Range 26 East
Conditional Use Petition No. CU-2002-AR-3142
"North Naples Regional Park"
Section 30, Township 48 South, Range 26 East
Planned Unit Development No. PUDZ-2003-AR-3569
"North Naples Research and Technology Park"
Section 10, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
V. Old Business:
VI. New Business:
LDC amendments
VII. Council Member Comments
VIII. Public Comments
IX. Adjournment
Council Members: Please notify the Environmental Services Department
Administrative Assistant no later than 5:00 p.m. on February 28, 2003 if you cannot
attend this mectin.q or if you have a conflict and will abstain from voting on a petition
(732-2505).
General Public: Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a
record of the proceedings pertaining thereto; and therefore may need to ensure that a
verbatim record of proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence
upon which the appeal is to be based.
March 5, 2003
THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Building "F", 3~d Floor
County Commission Boardroom
3301 Tamiami Trail
Naples, FL 34104
9:00AM
Minutes
March 5, 2003
Chairman Thomas Sansbury called the meeting to order at 9:00am.
Attendance: Thomas Sansbury, Michael G. Coe, Ken Humiston, Alfred Gal,
Alexandra Santoro, Ed Carlson, John Dowd (arrived at 9:05am)
-Erica Lynne and Michael V. Sorrel had excused absences.
-A Quorum was established.
Collier County: Bill Lorenz, Barb Burgeson, Stan Chrzanowski, Laura Roys, Fred
Rieschell, Doug Suitor, Ron Hovell, Maura Krauss, July Ardames Minor, Patrick White
(arrived at 9:07am)
II.
III.
IV.
Approval of Agenda:
-Barbara Burgeson stated she had a few items to discuss under new business.
Approval of Minutes for December 4, 2002:
-Alexandra Santoro noted that on Page 10 it should read that Mr. Carlson was also
volunteered to be on the EAC sub-committee. Mr. Carlson stated that he agreed and
accepted the position.
-Mr. Coe moved to approve the minutes of February 5, 2003 with the noted addition. It
was seconded by Alexandra Santoro. The motion passed unanimously, 6-0.(Mr. Dowd
was not present at the time)
Land Use Petitions
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-Barbara Burgeson stated the BCC and the CCPC have readopted an ordinance
where the petitioner does the presentation and staff is available for question. She
explained that they were going to put this in effect at this meeting.
A) Planned Unit Development Amendment No. PUDA-2002-AR-2240
Development of Regional Impact No. DRI-86-1
"Twelve Lakes PUD/DRI
Section 4, Township 50 South, Range 26 East
-Mr. Coe swore in all those who would be testifying.
-There were no ex parte disclosures.
-Don Pickwarth, attorney for Centex Homes, stated that Wilson Miller is the
consultant on the project. He provided the committee with an overview of the
project. He explained that the petition is to amend the original PUD from 1987.
The petition proposed to decrease the number of-1300 units to 1,000 units. He
added that the preserve goes from -48 acres to 91 acres in the new PUD, the
development standards have been brought on-line with current code, there is a
main road through the project which will be a public road thorough-fare to assist
with the traffic issues, and the moratorium in the area has been lifted. He added
that they agree with the staff recommendations listed in the staff report.
-Mr. Sansbury stated that Mr. Murray and Mr. Durham are consultants to his
employer, but he does not believe this will affect his judgement on this petition
and the denial or approval of this petition in no way effects his employer. He
stated he would vote and participate in discussion on this matter as long as no one
had any objections. There were no objections made.
-Tim Durham, Wilson Miller and Chief Environmental Consultant of this project,
stated that they have rearranged the preserve so that it almost doubles in size. The
wetlands on site are a blend of Cypress, Pine, and Malucca. Mr. Durham used a
map to show the different areas of the site. He explained that the preserve area
would be a continuation of the neighboring preserves on an adjacent project rather
than two smaller preserve sites between the two projects. A listed species survey
was done on the site. The RCW's have moved off site in the last five years and
he doesn't anticipate their return, but the preserves would be accommodating if
the RCW's did return. He added that mitigation was made for impacts; this will
include removal of the exotics on site, the stabilization of the hydro-period, the
recruitment of natural vegetation back into the site, and the perpetual management
of those lands. Fox Squirrels have been identified in the area and the preserve
area will be able to accommodate them.
-Mr. Coe asked if the mitigation for destruction of wetlands was required. Mr.
Durham stated that it was, but they were also enhancing the preserve and 16 acres
of the wetland mitigation bank.
-Mr. Coe asked about the flow across Davis Blvd. Mr. Durham stated that it was
captured in the storm water management plan and the primary movement would
go along Davis and then south. He explained that this is following with the
overall plan for the area, which ties into the county program as requested.
-Mr. Coe asked if this project would have the ability to be a 6-lane highway. Mr.
Perry, Wilson Miller, stated that there is sufficient right of way is existing and
they have reserved additional land in case the state wants the land.
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-Alexandra Santoro asked if the Gopher Tortoises and rare plants on site would be
protected in the preserve areas. Mr. Durham stated that they would be protected
in the preserve areas.
-There was no public comment.
-Mr. Carlson moved to approve the petition. It was seconded by Mr. Coe. All
were in favor; the motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
B)
Conditional Use Petition No. CU-2002-AR-3142
"North Naples Regional Park"
Section 30, Township 48 South, Range 26 East
-Mr. Coe swore in all those who would be testifying.
-There were no ex parte disclosures.
-Dominic Amico, representing Collier County Parks and Recreation, stated
that this is a conditional use application for the North Naples Regional Park.
The project is located between 175 and the Future Livingston Road. The
project covers -212 acres and is intended to be a regional park. The
masterplans for the park were shown. There will be eight soccer fields, five
softball fields, a pool complex, walking tracks, boardwalks, and other related
regional park type facilities. He added that they agree with the staff
stipulations listed in the staff report.
-Tim Hall, Senior Biologist for Turrell and Associates, used a variety of maps
to show the site. He explained that the vegetative communities and the
existing and proposed land uses of neighboring sites had been taken into
consideration. The site will cover 212 acres and there will be an impact to
-50% of the -160 acre wetlands. The project will preserve the other half of
the wetlands and some of the uplands located in the SW comer of the site.
The RCW's are not currently on site and were last sighted in the 1990's. In
the previous year a survey was done and no endangered species were noted.
The reports were provided in the EIS. They received their water management
permit in September 2002 and they are currently under review with the Corps
of Engineers.
-Mr. Carlson asked if mitigations had been made. Mr. Hall replied that in
addition to the preservation, they will be purchasing 23 credits at an off-site
mitigation bank. Mr. Carlson asked if they will encroach on the preserve area
in the future or if it had been set aside in perpetuity. Mr. Hall stated that the
conservation easement and the enhancement activities were in perpetuity. The
conservation easement being filed with the county will be permanently in
effect.
-There was no public comment.
-Laura Roys, Environmental Review, stated that the preservation requirements
fall under the 15% category rather than the 25%, since they fall under
commercial, industrial, and other. Therefore they would be required to
preserve 27.95. They are proposing to preserve 98.57 acres.
-Mr. Humiston moved to approve the petition. It was seconded by Alexandra
Santoro. All were in favor; the motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
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C) Planned Unit Development No. PUDZ-2003-AR-3569
"North Naples Research and Technology Park"
Section 10, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
-Mr. Coe swore in all those who would be testifying.
-There were no ex parte disclosures.
-Robert Duane, Hole Montes and Associates, stated that the site was located in
the northern reaches of Collier County and it borders the Lee County line.
This is an existing golf course driving range. The site has access from 41. He
used a variety of maps to show the location. The site is 19 acres, which is
located in the urban mix use and residential area. This is the first park coming
into to reach the new standards recently set in the comprehensive plan. EDC
and Enterprise Florida are helping to support this project because of the high-
wage jobs that it will bring into the area. They are in agreement with the staff
recommendations except for the FPL drainage easement. He explained that
they would be in agreement with it pursuant to the approval of FPL. He stated
that he had no problem with the stipulation, but requested that it be modified
to read: "pursuant to the approval of FPL". He added that Sterling Oaks has
some standing water on the back of their residential lots. The plans were
reviewed and although they feel that the plans may not have been constructed
in accordance with their water permit, they are willing to accept some of the
water into the ditch if need be, pursuant to Sterling Oaks modifying their
plans.
-Mr. Vasaga, environmental consultant for the project, used an aerial
photograph to show that the majority of the site had previously been cleared
for use by the golf driving range. Scrub habitats and Pine foresting were
located on site. He used a variety of maps to show the location and its
demographics. They are proposing to impact the 2 isolated areas due to the
low survivability probability. The area to the left of the power line will be
isolated, where they are proposing a lake. For mitigation they are removing
exotics, lowering the grade, replanting with wetland vegetation, and paying
2.9 acres at an off-site mitigation bank. There were 4 listed species found on
site: 2 Gopher Tortoises. The portion of land where the Gopher Tortoise
burrow and the tortoise are located will be preserved. They also found a scrub
area with Blazing Stars and Prickly Cactus, which will also be preserved.
-Mr. Carlson asked if the Tortoise preserve on southeast was confined and if
the tortoises would be caged in. Barbara Burgeson stated that they will be
required to submit a Gopher Tortoise relocation management plan and that
staff will be requiring them to have a fence preventing the Gopher Tortoises
from traveling out into the roadway. She added that although part of the area
will be fenced, she was not entirely sure at the time if they would recommend
the entire area be fenced.
-Terry Cole, Hole Montes and Associates project manager for this site, added
that the drainage of the site is from the East to the West into the existing ditch
along the FPL easement. When FPL came in to create an access road they
borrowed soil from both sides of the access-way, which created ditches on
both sides. He pointed out the flow of water on the site and intentions for the
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future. Sterling Oaks residents have concerns about standing water on their
rear lots. Mr. Cole understood that their water management plan required a
perimeter burm with their water draining into the project and then discharging
through a water control structure. If Sterling Oaks modifies their permit and
needed to discharge some water through the proposed research property, they
would be willing to work with them on it.
-Fred Reischell, Planning Services, stated that comprehensive review has been
completed. There were some changes, which the petitioner agreed to. This
will be consistent with the sub-district and GMP. Since the site is adjacent to
Bonita Springs, staff sent a packet to the city, but has not heard back.
-Barbara Burgeson stated that staff recommends approval of the PUD with
four stipulations from Stormwater management and the four multi-tiered
stipulations from the environmental section, which will be completed prior to
board approval.
-Robert Duane noted that he met with representatives from Spanish Wells.
Public Speakers
A) J. Gary Ray, Sterling Oaks homeowner, stated that along with others from
his neighborhood, they have been brought up to date with this project
through the last several weeks. They have met with the owner of the
research park. He has approached the manager of Sterling Oaks about the
standing water. The manager stated that they should allow Holes, Montes,
and Associates do what they need to do. He and his neighbors asked
about enforcement; what to do if the proper actions where not taken by
Sterling Oaks.
-The EAC and staff discussed the standing water problem at Sterling Oaks.
Staff explained that the burm around Sterling Oaks is supposed to hold the
water, but in heavy rains it fails. Mr. Chrzanowski told Mr. Ray that he would
provide him with his card and see if he could help in this situation, but advised
that relief in this type of situation was not always possible. Mr. Chrzanowski
further explained that he was unaware if Sterling Oaks was or was not in
compliance and the burm is a typical setup for drainage. He added that they
can check the grates when they go out. He explained that the county has no
authority to change the state water permit authority and the residents would
have to go to the water management district.
-Mr. Gal disclosed that his law firm represented Sterling Oaks joint venture.
-Mr. Sansbury stated that the assistance they could provide is to put Mr. Ray
in touch with Mr. Chrzanowski, who could put Mr. Ray in touch with the
correct individual at SWFL water management district to request their review
of compliance and procedures needed to modify the permit and correct the
problem. Mr. Chrzanowski agreed and asked Mr. Ray to come by the office
to review the designs, then he will call the water management district to find a
contact for Mr. Ray.
-Alexandra Santoro asked if the developers of the research park were offering
to help in this situation. Mr. Duane stated that they will volunteer to place a
stipulation in their PUD document stating that they will accept their water
"pursuant to a modification of their plans" if they are unable to find another
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way out. He asked that this stipulation be included in the EAC motion. Mr.
Chrzanowski asked if Mr. Duane had asked water management about the
possibility of volunteering this. Mr. Duane stated that he had not.
-Barb Burgeson stated that they did added the language "pursuant to the
approval of FPL" regarding the drainage easement stipulation.
-July Ardames Minor, Stormwater management section of the county, stated
that she met with a gentlemen from Sterling Oaks a year ago. She explained
that Sterling Oaks never did their certification of completion required by
South Florida. The district then sent a letter to the developer. She added that
she does not know if they have done anything yet, but before it is turned over
to the homeowner's Association, she urged them to make sure that the
developer comply with the completion of the water management system; a
certification of completion.
-Mr. Coe moved to approve the petition as amended. It was seconded by Mr.
Carlson. All were in favor; the motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
go
VI.
Old Business
-There was no old business to discuss.
New Business
LDC Amendments
-Mr. Sansbury asked if they needed to swear people in. Mr. White stated that they
did not.
A) Manatee Protection Plan Amendments
-Bill Lorenz explained that the intent was to incorporate the Manatee protection
plan and all of its land development activities into the LDC and to clarify some of
the language written in the management protection plan. He stated that the
previous morning they received the review of the Development Services Sub-
committee. He reviewed a letter from Clay Brooker, which proposed changes to
the draft that staff had compiled. Mr. Brooker's letter suggests adding
"commercial", "with ten slips or more", and "can legally obtain" to certain
portions of the LDC amendment on Manatee Protection. The letter also suggested
the removal of the narrative for the table in section 2.6.22.3.1 and breaking up the
section 2.6.22.3.3 into three sub-sections for clarity. Mr. Lorenz explained that
staff does not agree with using the word "commercial" because they feel this may
be limiting. He will speak with Patrick White about this view. For the moment,
they feel this limits the facilities that they can look at. Staff also does not
recommend using the phrase with "10 slips or more", because they again feel that
this would be limiting and they need to regulate all facilities under the Manatee
protection plan. Staff does agree with the phrase "can legally obtain". Staff also
agrees with the removal of the narrative (sections 1, 2, & 3)in section 2.6.22.3.1.
Mr. Lorenz added that they are also okay with the suggestion for section
2.6.22.3.3, but they have some two concems about the wording. One is an issue
about removing the wording: "the five-mile on travel distance". Staff suggests
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that the distance of five miles remain in this section. The second issue is with the
suggestion to remove the requirement for dredging permits prior to STP approval.
Staff recommends that you cannot receive your CO till you prove that you have
adequate depth.
-Clay Brooker, with the law firm Young, Van Assenderp, Vamadoe & Anderson,
P.A., stated that the purpose of the letter is to guarantee that the state approved
plan gets placed into the LDC correctly. He was glad to hear that the discussions
will continue. He explained that they believe the Manatee protection plan only
applies to boating facilities with 10 slips or more. They believe that the removal
of 10 slips or more would be inconsistent with the Manatee protection plan, which
was already adopted by the BCC. They also believe that the water depth issue
and the five mile distance is consistent with the MPP and the proposal goes
against the MPP. He added that there may be a middle ground they could come to
through future discussion. They also prefer and believe that the MPP does allow,
by the language "can legally obtain permits", to have an STP approval obtained
with the condition that dredging permits be required prior to the actual CO being
issued. He stated that they seem to be on "the same page" as staff on the last
issue.
-Todd Turrell, local ocean engineer, stated that he agrees with Mr. Brooker
especially pertaining to the water depth issue. He agrees "completely" with the
statement Mr. Brooker made that "the language proposed would simply render
preferred ranking impossible to obtain". He stated that he was on the committee
that assisted county staff in drafting the MPP and his recollection of the 5-mile
radius was that it was completely related to Manatee mortality and that effect on
the facility. He did not believe that it had anything to do with water depth. He
felt that the water depth was to discourage people from building marinas in
shallow water areas unless they could get dredging permits. He does not feel this
is a "practical thing" or the original intent, therefore he requested that they take
out any reference to water depth when it refers to 5-mile radius.
-Mr. Lorenz replied that the MPP intent defines multi-slip residential facilities
include "condominiums, mobile home park facilities, and neighborhood park
facilities where boat borring is concentrated in a common rather than individual
docks located behind individual residents".
-Mr. Sansbury asked if they would have to change the MPP if they put 5-10 slips
in the LDC. Mr. Lorenz stated that he did not believe they would have to,
because of the MPP definition of multi-slip facilities. He added that this is the
interpretation staff has been using since the MPP was in existence.
-Mr. Lorenz stated that in regards to the 5-mile distance, staff has always
interpreted it as they have written it in the proposed LDC amendment. He added
that they believe this is how the state interprets it as well.
-Mr. Carlson stated that it was difficult for him to not have been active in the
process and know all the details to make a decision. Mr. Coe agreed and felt that
through discussion the interested parties and staff would be able to work this out
and come to a conclusion. The EAC decided that they would like staff to meet
with the interested parties and come back to the EAC in the April meeting with
the determinations. Alexandra Santoro added that she agreed with the concept of
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not using the word "commercial", the charting for preferred rating to look at the
four-foot and the number of and impact on Manatees. She explained that she
would hate to see some of the smaller creeks dredged, but she did agree with the
concepts.
A five minute recess was taken at 10:30AM.
B) Encroachments and Easements
-Stan Chrzanowski, Development Services Engineering Review, stated that five
or six years ago people began doing minor encroachments into easements, mostly
into lake maintenance easements. He explained that the problem is that the staff
has been issuing a "letter of no objection", which stated that they did not object as
long as all the other easement holders did not object, but people began feeling that
they had a "right" to encroach and the encroachments are beginning to be much
larger than before. This amendment is to try and help get a handle on this
situation. The final decision was that all encroachment decisions must go before
the board. The amendment tried to avoid all of these decisions going before the
board by providing "letter of no objection" procedure that was approved by the
BCC. The attorney's feel that this can not be done and the solution is to either
"go for a vacation or do nothing at all". After the last few meetings they have
decided that if one encroaches on an easement then they need to come in and have
that portion of the easement vacated. If the board does not allow the
encroachment, then they will have to remove whatever is encroaching the
easement. He added that as for all the encroachments previously existing under
letters of no objection, that he did not know what would happen to them. He
explained that the amendment is not final wording and it may not proceed since
they already have a "vacation procedure" in place.
-Patrick White, Assistant County Attorney, stated that staff is correct with the
problems that they have been seeing, especially the problems with permitting
review. He had two concerns. One was real property interest and tracts that have
been dedicated or conveyed to the county. He explained that the concern is that to
approve these encroachments authority has to be received by the BCC. He added
that the only way to remove the "cloud" is by a "vacation" or by the county
releasing a portion of the easement in exchange for a relocation of the easement at
its full width. The second concern is about setbacks. Mr. White explained that
this seems to be a circumstance that only applies with respect to preserves. His
review of provisions pertaining to this concept of setback, seem to speak more in
terms of buffer. He believes that they may need to do more modifications to these
parts of the texts to ensure that what they are speaking of is setbacks from
preserves for structures, whether principal or accessory, and other activities that
may be prevented or precluded in the buffer area. Mr. White felt that this
provision will not lawfully clear the "cloud" from an easement. He believed that
the only way to do so was to vacate the county interest or release the easement in
exchange for a relocated easement.
-Mr. Chrzanowski added that when he is talking about encroachments, he is
generally talking about vertical building or structure encroachments. He does not
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consider sidewalks or fences are encroachments. He explained that another
concept that they will be looking at is what exactly constitutes an encroachment.
-Mr. White stated that there are procedures that exist, other than vacations or
exchanges, for authorizing the construction or erection of certain types of
structures. He used right-of-way permitting and fence permitting as examples.
He explained that in the past certain types of structures have not been seen as
encroachments on the "scope of the encroachment" and this is an acceptable idea.
He felt they could simplify defining what these types of structures are.
-Mr. Chrzanowski stated that they are currently telling people that they need to
apply for a vacation of the easement. This subject may not be brought back to the
EAC if the proposed amendment is done away with and replaced by the notion of
everyone needing to go through a "vacation". He felt this is probably what would
happen.
C) Literal Standards
-Bill Lorenz, stated that this proposed amendment addresses new standards for
their literal plantings. After a current analysis, staff determined that they are
"missing the mark" on what it is that these plants need to survive. They also feel
that the current planting elevation is too high. They attempted to provide better
standards in order to ensure the survivability of these "literal zones". He asked
the EAC to consider the "Literal shelf planting area" and the policy issue that
discusses the amount required to be planted. The current codes states that 2% of
the surface area, measured at control elevation, is required. The proposal is for
10% measured at the control elevation. He added that when the GMP was
adopted, it required 2.5%, therefore they have to have at least the 2.5%. The
Rural Fringe amendments adopted 30%. Another substantial change is that they
want to consolidate the areas as much as possible; one location as opposed to the
current various locations. They believe this will achieve a higher environmental
value and will require a simpler maintenance plan. Staff also recommends
locational criteria, that the location be "up against the preserve location" and
upstream of an outflow structure, rather than around a residential lot. A second
criteria specified looks at shelf elevation. The current code is an 8-1 slope. The
proposed amendment states an 8-1 slope or flatter; flatter will provide more
credits. A critical element in the proposed plan says that the designer must take
into account the hydro-period of the system and the maximum depth that will
occur at the planting location. This is to ensure that the proper plants are selected
for the locations. They will also require signs that specify the areas not be
sprayed. The DSAC sub-committee recommended additional criteria for the signs
and they indicated a desire for opportunities that larger systems would not have to
be located in one area. The proposed amendment has changes to how they
evaluate the success of the shelf; whatever naturally recruits on the shelf as long
as it is not exotic vegetation. The DSAC sub-committee also recommended that it
should not be nuisance vegetation either. Mr. Lorenz stated that they will be
added this language. They have eliminated the requirement to have compensating
literal zones if you have bulk heads of more than 40% of the stormwater system.
The code currently requires that if you have it in one location, then you have to
have 125% of the requirement. Now they want to encourage having the shelf in
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one location so they are proposing to eliminate this requirement as well. The
amendment criteria addresses modification of existing lakes or existing plans
under the old code. The DSAC sub-committee asked staff to provide a list of
consultants that the standards have been sent to. Mr. Lorenz only knew of one
return comment that staff received. One installer stated that the direction they
were heading in was appropriate and suggested planting on 36-inch centers, which
is less costly and has the same survivability. Mr. Lorenz stated that they will look
into this suggestion and they will send the standards to the particular consultants
requested by the DSAC sub-committee. They also removed the performance
guarantee. Mr. Lorenz stated that this proposed amendment will come back to the
EAC in the next few months with final changes.
-Mr. White added that he was responsible for reviewing and signing off on the
ordinance that embodies all of these regulations. He will work with staff to
eliminate legal problems, clarifying intent and application, and bring them back to
the EAC with the provisions.
-Mr. Coe stated that he believes they waste money on medians. He doesn't
believe that just stating a 2-foot center is sufficient and wondered why they don't
put grass on medians.
-Mr. Sansbury agreed that it was good to concentrate the selves in the preserve
areas because it he feels that it is impossible to enforce single family lot
requirements. He asked how these rules relate to the rules of the environmental
resource permits of SW Florida. Mr. Lorenz stated that staff does not see a
conflict. Mr. Sansbury added that he is concerned about too many signs taking
from the beauty of the area and that the enforcement should be in the hands of the
maintenance team.
-Mr. Lorenz addressed Mr. Coe's comments about spacing. He stated that staff
has looked at manuals with regard to spacing and there requirements are on the
conservative side. They will be looking at this further. He added that they are
looking to develop a literal shelf planting at Lake Sugdeon. He showed a map
that gave a visual concept of how it would look with a 2% planting versus the
10% planting, which staff is proposing.
-The EAC stated they would like staff to retum with the final changes. Mr.
Lorenz stated they will go before the DSAC committee on March 19, 2003.
D) Beaches
-Mr. Lorenz stated that the current code prohibits the ability to get large
equipment on to the beach in order to maintain the beach re-nourishment projects.
This proposed amendment makes the appropriate changes to allow cleaning and
maintenance machines. Staff is also attempting to reduce the number of
redundant sections in this portion of the code. This amendment proposes that the
setback from vegetation, in terms of raking, should be 15-feet. The state
requirement is only 10-feet. Staff will provide data and research to support the
15-feet.
-Alexandra Santoro asked why the requirement for beach raking and cleaning
devices not penetrating below one inch was changed to two inches. Maura
Krauss, Environmental Services Department, replied that this was changed in
order to be consistent with the state requirements. She added that they eliminated
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tire tread and consolidated some of the sections. They attempted to make it more
consistent with the current permits being issued. Alexandra Santoro was
concerned about the environmental relevance of the change.
-Mr. Coe asked what a "valid permit" would be to go onto the beach during the
turtle nesting season. Maura Krauss informed him that the permit is required
from the state and county. The permitted vehicles are concessionaires and beach
raking. Barbara Burgeson stated that in the past beach raking was prohibited at
this time, but it was allowed in the code two years ago.
-Mr. White stated staff was looking for direction on the 15 feet versus the 10 feet
in respect to the beach raking next to the dune. The EAC had no problems with
this.
-Mr. Coe made a motion for approval. It was seconded by Mr. Carlson. All were
in favor; the motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
E) Maintenance for Vegetation
-Barbara Burgeson stated that there have been some major changes to 3.97. This
proposal was an attempt to consolidate many sections of the code relating to
different aspects of the preservation areas, to incorporate staff's current policies
being used for the past ten years, and to incorporate additional guidelines that
have been recommended and used, but not in written form. Staff has chosen to
take out a small portion of this proposed amendment due to legal questions, in
attempt to have it go through this LDC amendment cycle. They will come back at
the next cycle with the full proposal after it has been reviewed for legal
sufficiency. She reviewed the changes in the proposed amendment that would be
removed and proposed for this cycle:
1) 3971 - The first sentence will be removed
2) 3972 - The first sentence will be removed
3) 3975 - The last sentence proposes to allow in the last sentence "unless it can
be demonstrated that it will not effect the integrity of the preserve". The only
way they would permit anything in the 10-feet adjacent to the preserve is if
that item is a structural boundary to protect the integrity of the preserve.
4) 39762 - They are proposing limitations on the re-created preserve area. They
are also proposing that the minimum spacing and widths be applied to both
the created and existing preservation areas. The language was modified to
"20-foot on center for trees, with an exception of 30-foot on center for large
canopy trees where there is a greater than 40-foot spread, and 5-foot on center
for shrubs. The 2-foot on center for groundcover was changed to 3-foot on
center. They have allowed for a modification which allows for smaller plant
materials when it encourages survivability. In regards to minimum width: for
parcels less than 5-acres the minimum width is less than 20-feet, for parcels 5-
10 acres the minimum width is 30-feet, and for parcels 10-acres and greater
the minimum width is 50-feet.
-Barbara Burgeson reiterated that these are all of the changes that they are
proposing to take out for "this cycle" and the DSAC sub-committee supported just
these amendments into the current cycle. She asked the EAC, since they had the
"full" proposal, that even though it may not be applicable this cycle, to send
comments to her. This will help her make improvements before the next cycle.
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VIII.
Announcements
-Barbara Burgeson stated that she had a few announcements to make. She
congratulated Mr. Carlson on his appointment to the Collier Conservation Land
Acquisition Committee. She stated that the first meeting will be on Monday in
the same room. Alex Salecki was the staff person appointed to this committee.
She reminded the EAC that she handed out a survey and she asked the committee
to return it by the end of the month with suggestions. The survey asked how the
EAC felt in regards to the meetings, how they were mn, any changes that need to
be made, etc... Mr. Sansbury will be providing the quadrennial report to the BCC
on March 11, 2003. She added that Alexandra Santoro has created a newsletter
that they would like to distribute to the EAC. She asked that the EAC consider if
they would like to distribute this to other groups. The newsletter discusses some
of the actions and accomplishments of the EAC. She also asked ~he EAC to
consider if they want to attach this to the EAC website. She explained that the
sub-committee for the overlay still needs to reach a date. The EAC stated they
will contact her with this date. Barbara Burgeson also noted that Erica Lynne had
requested $80 registration fee for a native plant society conference in May, 2003.
She explained that they are entitled to reimbursement of expenses approved by the
BCC and the money would come out of the EAC budget.
-Mr. Coe made a motion to approve the $80 registration fee and found that it was
reasonable for the performance of her duties. It was seconded by Alexandra
Santoro. All were in favor; the motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
-Bill Lorenz distributed the "Rural Lands Stewardship Area Implementing Land
Development Code Amendments". The package will be in this LDC cycle.
Carlton Fields is the consultant and has just distributed the packet to staff. Staff
will provide a briefing and description of the packet at the next EAC meeting in
April, 2003.
-Mr. White added that member comments on this set of LDC amendments are
desired.
-Barbara Burgeson stated that the county attorney's office has informed staff that
they have not correctly been following the voting conflict procedure. She
explained that when the forms are filled out, the signed forms must be distributed
to the board members. After the meetings, they will hand them out to the EAC so
that they have copies for their records.
Public Comment
A) Bob Krasowski, Zero Waste Collier County, stated that his committee has
been working on solid waste options since 1995. They have secured a grant
from the Department of Environmental Regulation and received assistance
from the Collier County School Board. He handed a pamphlet to the EAC
that describe a workshop and the speakers that would be presenting on the
zero waste initiative. He explained that the initiative is the application of
design, theory, principal, and practices to every component of the resource
extraction, production, sales, distribution, and discard of the material life-
stream cycle. There are categories in each that prove opportunities for
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efficiencies in reducing waste and recycling. The address ways of dealing
with waste other than incinerators. He invited the EAC and staff to the
workshop in order to learn more about the program and the environmental
concems involved.
-Alexandra Santoro stated that she was concerned with commercial office
recycling and asked if staff could speak to the EAC on commercial recycling in
the future. Barbara Burgeson stated that she would call solid waste and see if they
could be scheduled to speak in May, 2003.
Adjoumment -
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 11:53 AM.
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