EAC Minutes 10/05/1988 MINUTES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
DATE: October 5 , 1988
TIME: 8 : 45 A.M.
PLACE: 3rd Floor Boardroom, Building "F" , Collier County
Government Center , Naples, Florida
EAC STAFF PRESENT
CARDILLO X BURCH X
BELOW X CACCHIONE X
BENEDICT X EDWARDS X
KURGIS X LORENZ X
SNYDER X MULDOON X
STEVENS X
MINUTES BY: Ellie Hoffman, Deputy Clerk
CALLED TO ORDER AT: 8: 45 A.M. ADJOURNED: 10 : 00 A.M
PRESIDING: John P. Cardillo, Chairman
ADDENDA TO THE AGENDA: Item re Pelican Bay added by Mr . Below
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AGENDA
October 5, 1988
8:45 A.M.
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
III. ADDENDA
IV. STAFF REPORT
A. PETITIONS ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY NRMD
1. PDA-88-8C: Christian F. Henning of Suncoast
Development Corporation, representing
Continental Financial Ltd. ; requesting a PUD
Amendment to Bay Forest.
2 . PU-88-19C: Florida Department of Transporta-
tion; requesting a provisional use 8.10b of
"E" for FDOT Construction Office.
3 . PU-88-18C: Thomas Crandall of Collier County
Utilities; requesting a provisional use 8 .10
of "E" for wellfields - Golden Gate Estates.
4. R-88-20C/PDA-88-11C: Alan D. Reynolds of
Wilson, Miller, Barton, Soll & Peek, Inc. ,
representing Naples R & D Group Inc. ;
requesting a zoning change from A-2 to PUD/a
PUD amendment to Naples Research & Development
Park.
V. OLD BUSINESS
1. Discussion - Landscape Committee recommendations
for site development plan review for standard
stipulation No. 2 .
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. R-88-15C/PU-88-15C: Anthony P. Pires , Jr. or
Woodward & Woodward, P.A. , representing Gulfside
Marketing, Inc. , Clyde Quinby, Trustee; requesting
a zoning change from A-2 to RSF-3 "Wyntree" and a
provisional use 8 .10 b (Essential Services) of
RSF-3 for clubhouse, tennis courts .
B. ST-88-15C: Robert A. Lee, Trustee; requesting a
special treatment permit for a proposed boat dock
for a single family residence.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. DISCUSSION OF ADDENDA
IX. ADJOURNMENT
X. WORKSHOP
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NOTES :
A. Notify the Natural Resources Management Department
(774-8454 ) no later than 5 P.M. on Monday, October 3,
1988 , if you cannot attend this meeting or if you have
conflict and thus will abstain from voting on a
particular petition.
D. Please refer to notice on first floor, Building F, for
the location of the E.A.C. meeting.
C. Items added after agenda was sent out.
D. No action since last Council meeting.
E. On January 7, 1987 the E.A.C. adopted a policy that any
person addressing the E.A.C. on behalf of any
organization must present a letter from said organization
acknowledging them as a representative empowered to make
policy related comments on that subject.
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PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL
NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND
THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND
EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO EE BASED.
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PETITION NO. PDA-88-8C
FILED BY/FOR: Christian F. Henning of Suncoast Development
Corporation representing Continental Financial
Ltd.
REQUESTING: A PUD Amendment to Bay Forest
COMMENTS: This Petition was administratively approved by
NRMD. There were no comments regarding sub-
ject Petition.
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PETITION NO. PU-88-19C
FILED BY/FOR: Florida Department of Transportation
REQUESTING: A Provisional Use 8. 10b of "E" for FDOT
Construction Office
COMMENTS: This Petition was administratively approved by
NRMD. There were no comments regarding sub-
...—. ject Petition.
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PETITION NO. PU-88-18C
FILED BY/FOR: Thomas Crandall of Collier County Utilities
REQUESTING: A Provisional Use 8 . 10 of "E" for Wellfields
in Golden Gate Estates
COMMENTS: This Petition was administratively approved by
NRMD. There were no comments regarding sub-
ject Petition.
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PETITION NO. R-88-20C/PDA-88-11C
FILED BY/FOR: Alan D. Reynolds of Wilson, Miller, Barton,
Soil & Peek, Inc. , representing Naples R & D
Group Inc.
REQUESTING: A zoning change from A-2 to PUD/A PUD amend-
ment to Naples Research & Development Park
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COMMENTS: This Petition was administratively approved by
NRMD.
Dr . Benedict noted that the NRMD approval, as
contained in the Staff Report, indicates that
. . . . the petitioner in designating 1. 0 acre
forested area as a preserve" , and questioned
whether this is an additional stipulation?
Mr . Edwards stated that the 1 acre preserve is
located in the rezone area, and was not
included in the original PUD, or in the origi-
nal stipulations, noting that Staff is in
agreement with this designation.
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ITEM: Discussion - Landscape Committee recommen-
dations for site development plan review for
Standard Stipulation No. 2.
COMMENTS: Ms. Muldoon began a review of subject item at
this point in the meeting, but it was con-
tinued to the end of the meeting, as so noted
in the minutes.
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PETITION NO. R-88-15C/PU-88-15C
FILED BY/FOR: Anthony P. Pires, Jr . of Woodward & Woodward,
P.A. , representing Gulfside Marketing, Inc. ,
Clyde Quinby, Trustee
REQUESTING: A zoning change from A-2 to RSF-3 , a provi-
sional use 7. 11b (3 ) of RSF-3 for a clubhouse
and tennis courts, and a provisional use 8 . 10b
for essential services (sewage treatment
plant, water treatment plant) , "Wyntree"
Subdivision
COMMENTS: Mr . Dan Brundage of Agnoli , Barber & Brundage,
Inc. stated that basically, the Staff Report
recommends approval of subject project, but
noted that during the process of discussions
with Staff, questions were raised regarding
the effect that the project may have on the
Coral Reef Aquifer . He indicated that these
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questions were addressed in his letter dated
September 15, 1988.
With regard to the landscape requirement, Mr .
Brundage indicated that he is requesting that
the 75% groundcover used for native
landscaping, be reduced to 60%. He stated
that the 75% will create an unnecessary burden
on the project.
Ms. Stevens advised that the subject property
has been previously used for potato farming
for the past 10 years, and ditches and berms
still remain on site. She stated that the
entire parcel has been cleared of native trees
and shrubs for many years, and there are
various grasses and annuals found on site.
She indicated that the primary NRMD concern is
the affect that the land use will have on the
Coral Reef Aquifer , but noted that these
questions have been adequately addressed in
Mr . Brundage' s correspondence dated September
15 , 1988 .
Ms. Stevens noted that NRMD recommends appro-
.-. val of this Petition, subject to Standard
Stipulations 2-4 (noted as 1-3 below) , and the
additional stipulation (No. 4) , regarding the
site landscaping.
STIPULATIONS:
1. Native species shall be utilized, where
available, to the maximum extent possible in
the site landscaping design. A landscaping
plan will be submitted to the Natural
Resources Management Department and the
Community Development Division for their
review and subject to their approval . This
plan will depict the incorporation of native
species and their mix with other species , if
any. The goal of site landscaping shall be
the re-creation of native vegetation and habi-
tat characteristics lost on the site during
construction or due to past activities.
2. All exotic plants, as defined in the County
Code, shall be removed during each phase of
construction from development areas , open
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space areas, and preserve areas. Following
site development, a maintenance program shall
be implemented to prevent reinvasion of the
site by such exotic species. This plan, which
will describe control techniques and inspec-
tion intervals, shall be filed with and sub-
ject to approval by the Natural Resources
Management Department and the Community
Development Division.
3 . If, during the course of site clearing, exca-
vation, or other constructional activities, an
archaeological or historical site, artifact,
or other indicator is discovered, all develop-
ment at that location shall be immediately
stopped and the Natural Resources Management
Department notified. Development will be
suspended for a sufficient length of time to
enable the Natural Resources Management
Department or a designated consultant to
assess the find and determine the proper
course of action in regard to its salvageabi-
lity. The Natural Resources Management
Department will respond to any such notifica-
tion in a timely and efficient manner so as to
provide only a minimal interruption to any
constructional activities.
4 . The petitioner shall incorporate a large per-
centage (at least 75%) of native species into
the site landscaping to help restore the
biological integrity of the area which has
been lost through consecutive years of agri-
cultural use.
Ms Stevens noted that the 75% requirement as
indicated in Stipulation No. 4 above was
suggested because there are no native trees or
shrubs on the site, and the Petitioner has
stated a desire to restore the biological
integrity of the area. She noted, however ,
the EAC may evoke this, if so desired.
Dr . Benedict indicated that reference was made
to a memo from Environmental Science and
Pollution Control Director Lorenz , in Mr .
Brundage ' s letter , noting that it is not
included, and questioned whether copy is
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available, or if Mr . Lorenz could recall its
content?
Mr . Brundage provided a copy of the memorandum
for Dr . Benedict' s review.
A discussion took place regarding the required
level of native vegetation, and Dr . Benedict
stated that it should be consistent for
everyone.
Dr . Snyder stated that Standard Stipulation
No. 2 indicates that "Native species shall be
utilized, where available, to the maximum
extent possible in the site landscaping
design" , and he feels that the petitioner is
being asked to do as much as is humanly
possible.
Mr . Below commented that he believes the
landscaping should be in accordance with
Stipulation #2, noting that until such time
the language is changed, he believes the issue
could be challenged.
Mr . Lorenz indicated that this topic is part
of the discussion Ms. Muldoon will brief the
Council on, later in the meeting. He noted
that Staff has a problem with that particular
stipulation when it comes down to reviewing
the plans and specs relating to landscaping.
He advised that there is no definition as to
"the maximum extent possible.
Dr . Benedict advised that when Stipulation No.
2 was written a few years ago, it was
understood that soon, thereafter , an Ordinance
would be adopted that would be specific,
adding that he would like to see Staff come
back with specific comments relating to the
landscaping.
There were no speakers, either for or against
subject Petition.
MOTION: Made by Ms. Kurgis to recommend approval of
Petition R-88-15C/PU-88-15C, subject to the
Stipulations as stated above, amending
Stipulation No. 4 to read ',The Petitioner
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shall incorporate at least 60% of native spe-
cies into the site landscaping, subject to
review and approval by NRMD " Seconded
by Mr. Below. Carried unanimously
PETITION NO. ST-88-15C
FILED BY/FOR: Robert A. Lee, Trustee
REQUESTING: A Special Treatment Permit for a proposed boat
dock for a single-family residence.
COMMENTS: Ms. Muldoon advised that on September 20 ,
1988 , she inspected the site with Jim Beever
of the Florida Department of Natural
Resources. She stated that the Petitioner is
proposing to construct a boat dock approxima-
tely 54 ' long and 4 ' wide. She noted that
approximate water depths are from 4-5 ' . She
noted that the Petitioner is required by DNR
to lengthen the dock 20 ' to minimize prop
dredging and impact on shallow-water benthos .
She indicated that the extension of the dock
will require that the Petitioner obtain a boat
dock extension through the County, and he must
also apply for an Army Corps permit.
Ms. Muldoon provided a slide presentation of
subject parcel for the proposed dock, noting
that it will not be constructed at the mouth
of the lagoon, should it once again open up.
Mr . Below stated that it appears the proposed
dock will be located where there was a beach
when the Pass was open, adding that if the
configuration went back to where it originally
was, the dock will be attached to land.
Mr . Lee noted that the shore line has not
moved more than 10 ' in the past 11 years .
There were no speakers, either for or against
subject Petition.
MOTION: Made by Dr. Benedict to recommend approval of
Petition ST-88-15C, subject to the Stipulation
as noted below. Seconded by Mr. Below.
Carried unanimously.
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STIPULATION: 1. The Petitioner must obtain all the correct
permits from other state, federal, and local
agencies, and must adhere to all standards
mandated by them in construction of the pro-
posed dock.
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ITEM: Landscape Committee Recommendations for Site
Development Plan Review For Standard
Stipulation No. 2
COMMENTS: Ms. Muldoon advised that Acting Community
Development Administrator 011iff spoke to her
in July regarding difficulties that the
Landscape Architects were having with the 60%
criteria she had set for the total plants.
She noted that he had asked her to present
this problem to the EAC, and request that the
review process be changed, which would include
the entire area, and suggested that the stan-
dards be set in the language contained in the
Stipulations.
She stated that she attended the Landscape
^ Ordinance Committee Meeting on August 30 ,
1988, to discuss the difficulties of the
review process, and noted that the Committee
is in the midst of rewriting the Landscape
Code, and because these ideas will be incor-
porated into it, they are looking for a "quick
fix" of the review process, rather than
rewriting the entire stipulation. The
Committee has suggested the review of only
the trees and understory, and excluding
groundcover . She stated that basically, both
the methodology of review and the rewriting of
the stipulation needs to be accomplished. She
indicated that the change in the Landscape
Ordinance will be in final form in March, but
adoption of the Ordinance by the Board of
County Commissioners will most likely not take
place until 4-6 months after that.
Mr . Below noted that the EAC needs to decide
what percentage should be adhered to, noting
that the Standard Stipulation, as it currently
reads, is too vague, and is unenforceable. He
indicated that after the percentage is deter-
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mined, it would be appropriate for Ms . Muldoon
to review the total landscape plan, and then
apply the percentage to the total area .
Dr . Benedict indicated that he would like to
see Ms. Muldoon come back to the EAC with a
rewritten interim standard. He further indi-
cated that Dr . Snyder knows more about native
vegetation than the other members of the EAC,
and suggested that they meet.
Dr . Snyder questioned whether the system Ms .
Muldoon has been using during the past two
years was a workable one?
Ms. Muldoon replied negatively, noting that
the landscapers prefer that the evaluation of
plants be done by area, rather than by num-
bers, adding that they dislike using native
material, since they feel they do not provide
enough color , they are not pretty, tend to be
sparsely vegetated, etc. She noted that
people generally do not want to change what
they have been doing for a long time, but
indicated that there must be a balance between
what the landscapers want, and what the biolo-
gists want.
In answer to Dr . Benedict, Ms. Muldoon stated
that Anne McCoy, landscape architect, is
willing to interact with her on this subject,
and she feels that the two of them can arrive
at something that will be amenable to both
landscape architects and biologists , during
the interim period.
Dr . Benedict indicated that if Ms. McCoy is
willing to work with Ms. Muldoon, he believes
that interim standards and guidelines could be
used to rewrite the Stipulation. He suggested
that other counties be contacted to learn how
they handle similar procedures. He stated
that after the revisions have been made, Ms.
Muldoon present them to the EAC, and not wait
for the Landscape Code.
MOTION: Made by Dr. Benedict that Staff be directed to
work with Ms. McCoy, landscape architect, to
revise the language in Standard Stipulation
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No. 2, and submit the recommendation to the
EAC for review. Seconded by Mr. Below.
Carried unanimously.
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ITEM: Addendum - Pelican Bay
COMMENTS: Mr . Below advised that it came to his atten-
tion that Pelican Bay is planning additional
development in the area that the EAC pre-
viously identified as a unique turkey oak
area, noting that they plan to dispose of 1/3
of that area. He stated that he feels this
area needs to be preserved, and questioned
what can be done?
Natural Resource Technician Burch stated that
subject area is being platted, and parts of
the turkey oak hammock will be sold into lots,
and a portion will be preserved.
Dr . Benedict indicated that he recalls
discussions regarding the plat, and Pelican
Bay was going to do what they could to pre-
serve it, before they moved on to the next
plat.
Planner Cacchione advised that the area where
turkey oaks exist is designated on the Pelican
Bay Plan as Group IV Housing. She noted that
the developers worked with Dr . Proffitt in the
past to establish boundaries of the turkey oak
area to be preserved, and they are in the pro-
cess of continuing to plat that area. She
stated that she and Mr . Burch will be meeting
with the parties next week to review the area
to the north that is to be platted, and the
area that is to be preserved as the turkey oak
area .
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Dr . Benedict stated that he is curious about
the EAC Ordinance, i .e. establishing new pro-
cedures and meeting monthly, etc. , and
questioned the status of it?
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Mr . Burch noted that he recently found a copy
of the proposed ordinance, which was buried in
the shuffle, adding that he forwarded same to
the County Attorney' s office for review.
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There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned by
Order of the Chair .
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
John P. Cardillo, Chairman
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