EAC Minutes 08/03/1988 MINUTES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
DATE: August 3 , 1988
TIME: 8 : 45 A.M.
PLACE: 3rd Floor Boardroom, Building "F" , Collier County
Government Center , Naples, Florida
EAC STAFF PRESENT
CARDILLO ABS BURCH X
BELOW X EDWARDS X
BENEDICT X MULDOON X
KURGIS X STEVENS X
SNYDER X LORENZ X
KOOPMAN X
MINUTES BY: Dalila Mendez , Deputy Clerk
CALLED TO ORDER AT: 8 : 45 A.M. ADJOURNED: 12 : 15 P.M
PRESIDING: Dr . Mark Benedict, Chairman
ADDENDA TO THE AGENDA: 1 . Item added by Mr . Snyder re Comprehensive
Plan.
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AGENDA
August 3, 1988
8:45 A.M.
I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
III. ADDENDA
IV. STAFF REPORTS
A. PETITIONS ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY NRMD
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. PU-88-5C: Mr. Richard B. Kepley of Shelter Island Joint
Venture, representing Bernard C. Johnson, Trustee; requesting a
provisional use "b & e" of RT for a restaurant and marina.
B. R-88-6C: Alan D. Reynolds, AICP of Wilson, Miller, Barton,
Soll & Peek, Inc. , representing Manufactured Housing
Associates, Inc. ; requesting a zoning change from A-2 & A-2
"ST" to PUD - Naples Golf Estates.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Revision of EAC Standard Stipulation No. 2.
VIII. DISCUSSION OF ADDENDA
IX. ADJOURNMENT
X. WORKSHOP
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NOTES:
A. Notify the Natural Resources Management Department (774-8454) no
later than 5 P.M. on Monday, August 1, 1988, if you cannot
attend this meeting or if you will have conflict and thus will
abstain from voting on a particular petition.
B. Please refer to notice on first floor, Building F, for the
location of the E.A.C. meeting.
C. Items added after agenda was sent out.
D. No action since last Council meeting.
E. On January 7, 1987 the E.A.C. adopted a policy that any person
addressing the E.A.C. on behalf of any organization must present a
letter from said organization acknowledging them as a representative
empowered to make policy related comments on that subject.
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ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A
RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO
ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD
INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL AUGUST 3 , 1988
ITEM: Minutes of July 6, 1988
MOTION: Made by Mr. Below to approve the minutes of July 6,
1988, as presented. Seconded by Ms. Kurgis. Carried
4/0.
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PETITION NO: PU-88-5C
FILED BY/FOR: Richard B. Kepley of Shelter Island Joint
Venture, representing Bernard C. Johnson,
Trustee.
REQUESTING: A provisional use "b & e" of RT for a restaurant
and marina .
COMMENTS: Mr . Kepley, representing Bernard C. Johnson, advised
that the Corps of Engineers is in the process of
reissuing permits; he also advised that he had read
the Staff report and had no comments.
Mr . Edwards described the subject property as a 5 . 7
acre parcel of land located in the Cocohatchee River
He noted that the dominant species include ragweed ,
dog fennel, false camphorweed, milwort, and assorted
graminoids, with no canopy species. He indicated
that there is no vegetation occurring waterward of
the seawall.
He advised that NRMD concerns are as follows: the
effects development and increased boat traffic would
have on the threatened and endangered species; the
possible contamination of the surrounding waters and
sediments by leakage of petroleum byproducts; the
possible contamination of the same waters and sedi-
ments by decomposition of anti-fouling paint toxins .
Mr . Edwards said that due to the aforementioned, the
petitioner was required to submit an Environmental
Impact Statement. He stated that the petitioner
agreed to have a five year monitoring program to
determine the levels of petroleum byproducts and
anti-fouling paint toxins in the waters .
He noted that Staff recommended approval subject
to standard EAC Stipulations, and two additional
stipulations.
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Biologist Peter Godfrey, representing the peti-
tioner, advised that the site has been cleared
and filled. He noted that the petitioner propo-
ses to construct an 86 slip marina , as well as
two 15-story condominium towers. He noted that
the petitioner has agreed with DER' s stipulation
of planting red mangroves along the riprap peri-
meter of the site, as well as other stipula-
tions.
Since the Committee was not provided with copies
of the Environmental Impact Statement, Mr .
Godfrey summarized its contents and added that
the petitioner did not intend to exceed DER' s
minimum requirement for water quality. He,
therefore, indicated that the petitioner agreed
with the five-year water monitoring program,
and would be conducting preconstruction, as well
as bi-monthly water sampling of the area .
He advised that Least Terns were not observed,
and bald eagle nesting are located within 0. 5
mile of the site. He then referred to DNR' s
letter , which states that the marina will not
adversely impact manatees, provided that manatee
precaution signs are installed at the site; the
Army Corps of Engineers concurs with this state-
ment.
He advised that the project would be serviced by
the North Regional Sewer Plant, and added that a
professional engineer would be conducting
hydrologic computations of wastewater to be
derived from the project.
In response to Mr . Below, Mr . Godfrey explained
that prior to construction, water flows arising
from the site would be recreated, and samples
would be taken when the tide was going out. Mr .
Below, however , stated that methods to be
followed should be included in the report. Mr .
Godfrey advised that DER did not delineate
methods to be followed for sampling waters , as
their concerns are with changes in the water
quality in the area. He indicated that there
would not be any changes in the water quality
derived from the site.
Mr . Below indicated that methodology for water
sampling should be included and approved by
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NRMD; Mr . Godfrey agreed with this recommen-
dation.
Ms. Kurgis stated that she had the same concerns
as Mr . Below. She referred to the first sentence
of Stipulation #4, and recommended that the
following wording be added: "Petitioner shall
implement a monitoring program, to be approved
by NRMD, etc. " . She questioned the following
wording: "Annual reports shall be submitted to
NRMD for review and approval" .
Responding to Ms. Kurgis question about the sub-
mittal of annual reports, as indicated in
Stipulation #4 , Mr . Burch explained that the
intent of the report is to review impacts of
toxins in the waters.
Mr . Godfrey expounded that DER, DNR and the
Army Corps have jurisdiction, and would not
allow the project to continue if a problem
existed in the water quality.
Mr. Steven Crawford advised that a mechanism was
being provided to test water quality, and State
regulations would apply if the test failed. Mr .
Below, however , stated that County involvement
reassured that stipulations were being complied
with.
Dr . Benedict asked how the petitioner antici-
pated to treat storm water runoff on the site?
Mr . Godfrey responded that the first 1/2 inch
would be treated to the highest level possible,
and its control was delegated by County zoning.
In response to Dr . Benedict, Mr . Lorenz , Acting
Director of NRMD & Director of Pollution Control ,
advised that he has not been involved in the
project. Dr . Benedict suggested that Mr .
Lorenz review the project to determine a water
monitoring concept, and write language for
adverse impacts on the water quality.
MOTION: Made by Mr. Snyder to recommend approval of
Petition PU-88-5C subject to Staff's stipula-
tions, as provided in Staff report modifying
Stipulation #4. Seconded by Ms. Kurgis.
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Motion failed 1/3 , Ms. Kurgis, Mr . Below and
Dr . Benedict opposed.
COMMENTS: Ms. Kurgis suggested that Staff Stipulation #4
should take into consideration sediment samples,
and a monitoring program which would define a
series of water samples taken during tidal
changes and prior to construction.
Mr . Godfrey expounded that 90% of normal rain-
falls are approximately 1/2 - 1 inch in size,
and if storm water treatment was provided for
the first inch or first 1/2 inch, 90% of the
rainfall and its pollutants would be acquired.
Water Management Reviewing Officer Koopman,
advised that a small project usually retains the
first inch for purifications purposes, however ,
due to the size of the proposed project, they
would be faced with a 25-year , 3-day storm.
MOTION: Made by Dr. Benedict to continue Petition
PU-88-5C at the next EAC meeting, directing
Staff and Environmental Control to design a
standardized conceptual water quality monitoring
program. Seconded by Mr. Kurgis.
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PETITION NO: R-88-6C
FILED BY/FOR: Alan D. Reynolds, AICP of Wilson, Miller , Barton,
Soll & Peek, Inc. , representing Manufactured
Housing Associates, Inc.
REQUESTING: A zoning change from A-2 & A-2 "ST" to PUD -
Naples Golf Estates.
REPRESENTED BY: Alan D. Reynolds
COMMENTS: Mr . Reynolds advised that the petitioner is
requesting a rezoning from A-2 and A-2 ST to PUD
to construct a residential and commercial deve-
lopment. He indicated that the property is
located in the southeast quadrant of S.R. 84 .
He referred to map, Attachment #1 , of Staff
report, and described the land uses. He stated
that the development will have a density of 1. 3
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per acre ; will be located in the urban area, and
complies with the Comprehensive Plan.
Environmental Consultant Link referring to the
sketch on the wall stated that DER has claimed
part of the project as jurisdictional wetlands.
He indicated that the eastern part of the juris-
diction consists of 8 - 10 feet cypress with few
Slash pine . He stated that the cypress/pine
mixed wetlands range from 70: 30 , and have been
identified as viable wetlands. He noted that
the prairie will not be tampered with and be
kept intact . He indicated that the central sec-
tor of the parcel consists of Slash pine , cab-
bage palm, and palmetto understory.
Mr . Link advised that the property was poorly
culverted and slash pines have invaded the
cypress wetlands areas. He noted that this area
was functional and proper restoration of
historic hydrological periods would alter the
slash pine trend.
Mr . Reynolds referred to the Master Plan, and
explained that the petitioner proposed to deve-
lop 790 single-family dwelling units ; an 18-hole
golf course; and 50% of the property would be
designated as "Conservation and Open Space" . He
noted that the water management consisted of
lakes, and dry retention areas near the golf
course . He referred to another conservation
area and stated that it would not be incor-
porated into the water management system because
a bern would have to be constructed along the
perimeters of the property. He stated that
minor encroachments would be permitted with DER.
He noted that the commercial and sewage treat-
ment plant would be located on the upland por-
tion of the site. He referred to the cypress '
wetland, and advised that the petitioner plans
to excavate that area into a lake. He stated
that the open space on site is in excess of 70%
of the property; half of which is dedicated to
conservation areas which will not be impacted.
He advised that the upland islands have been
identified for a limited residential use,
however , in order to gain access to these areas
permitting from DER is required. He reiterated
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that the project was in compliance with the Comp
Plan, and Collier County' s regulations .
Mr . Reynolds indicated that petitioner was not
agreeable with the Staff report of treating some
of the cypress/pine areas as preservation areas ,
as it was not a reasonable position to take.
Ms. Stevens provided the Committee with an
aerial map of the proposed site, and stated that
54% of the property has been claimed as juris-
dictional wetlands by DER. She then reiterated
Mr . Link' s description of the site, and added
that associated shrub and ground cover include
wax myrtle, corkwood, swamp fern, St. John' s
Wort, and various prairie grasses and sedges.
She indicated that the hydroperiods in these
areas are considerably shorter than historical
inundation seasons. She stated that several
buttonbush and alligator flag ponds are found
within the DER jurisdictional limits, and sup-
port willow, red maple, and exotic Brazilian
pepper .
Ms. Stevens further stated that the Army Corps of
Engineers or the South Florida Water Management
District any wetland jurisdictions have completed
assessments on the site. She noted that NRMD
major concern is with the adverse impacts which
will be imposed on these wetland systems and their
resource values, therefore, Staff recommends that
a portion of the mixed cypress/pine wetlands be
preserved or for low impact development. The NRMD
recommends denial of this petition as proposed, she
concluded.
Mr . Koopman advised that Mr . Boldt recommended
denial due to the possibility of overload on the
951 Canal, however , WMAB recommended approval
subject to stipulations. He noted that the
basic concern is that the out flow to the 951
Canal will be limited.
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Recess 10:20 a.m. to 10:30 a.m.
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Mr . Snyder asked about the extent of melaleuca
invasion? Mr . Edwards responded that the
melaleuca was mostly on the western boundary of
the 951 Canal with a 20 foot stretch. Dr .
Benedict advised that per County ordinance the
melaleuca will have to be removed.
Responding to Mr . Snyder , Mr . Reynolds advised
that there was no absolute percentage standard
for water management, however , based on the size
of the site it will be approximately 15% - 20%
of the total developable area. He noted that of
614 acres, 300 acres would be for developmentand
and 37. 5 acres would be for the lake.
Presently, he continued, the percentage is less
than 15% of the area due to the fact that the
developer is taken storage capacity in the major
wetland system. He indicated that excavation of
lakes will provide water management, and fill
for the site. The construction of a lake also
allows mitigation benefits, he added.
Mr . Snyder asked why DER wetlands could not be
utilized as part of the water management system?
Mr . Reynolds explained that the law did not
allow for these areas to be used for water mana-
gement, and further the South Water Management
District and DER would probably not allow
berming of the area . Referring to the map, he
delineated the different sections, and
explained each. He stated that standing water
has not been evident on the site, Ms. Stevens
concurred.
In response to Mr . Below, Ms. Stevens advised
that NRMD did not accept the EIS because it
was inadequate and did not identify the wetlands
thoroughly. She noted that the recommendation
for denial was based on the proposed development
in wetland area .
Mr . Burch noted that NRMD' s position has been
based on accepting stringent designations by
other regulatory agencies as County wetlands.
Mr . Reynolds advised that due to the size of the
project it was impossible to determine a Corps
jurisdictional line in the transitional areas .
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In response to Dr . Benedict, Mr . Reynolds
advised that the Comp Plan does not include an
environmental point rating system.
In response to Dr . Benedict, Attorney Varnadoe
stated that other counties make a distinction
between the densities that are allowed in
wetlands. He noted that the projects he has
represented have not utilized wetland areas for
development, further the proposed project is a
low density project.
Responding to Dr . Benedict, Ms. Stevens advised
that some areas were classified as high quality
wetlands; others as preserved areas; and others
could possibly be developed as high impacted
development. However , she indicated that
revised site plans have not been provided by the
petitioner , indicating that any of the areas
would be preserved. Mr . Burch agreed that modi-
fications to the plan would be appropriate.
Dr . Benedict asked if the petitioner had con-
sidered placing transitional swales along the
uplands? Mr . Reynolds responded that this was
not permitted by the SFWMD, and their recommen-
dation was that the water be discharged to the
951 Canal. Dr . Benedict stated that the project
would eliminate all the upland habitat, thus
eliminating gradual transitional zones and
wildlife effects.
Mr . Reynolds did not agree with the previous
statement; he noted that they would have tran-
sitional areas. He referred to Dr . Proffitt ' s
letter dated July 15 , 1988 which states that
NRMD is concerned with the extensive impacts the
project will have on the mixed cypress/pine
wetlands, and recommends that 85% - 90 of these
areas be designated as conservation areas.
In response to Dr . Benedict, Mr . Reynolds
advised that as the project progressed, the plan
would be modified, due to the process of per-
mitting and involvement of different agencies.
He also stated that by the time the project was
completed, its density would be lower than what
is presently indicated by the Master Plan.
Mr . Below shared Dr . Benedict ' s concerns about
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the project, and referred to the islands in the
eastern quadrant of the project. He indicated
that there are not enough residences in the area
to justify the disturbance to the area .
Dr . Proffitt expressed his views by stating that
the cypress/pine areas will not become an upland
area. He noted that eradication of the mixed
areas should be avoided, and the developer
should map the area as wetland and admit to the
EAC that indeed it is a wetland area. He indi-
cated that the plan was not appropriate,
however , it could be revised to protect a per-
centage of the mixed areas. Mr . Reynolds indi-
cated that since Dr . Proffitt has not spent
sufficient time at the site he could not make a
any definite conclusions.
Dr . Benedict expressed concern on approval of
the proposed project, and Ms. Kurgis recommended
that the petitioner provide a proposal deli-
neating wetlands, addressing the islands, etc.
After a lengthy discussion, it was determined
that the petition be continued on August 17,
1988 and the EAC visit the site on Wednesday,
August 10, 1988 at 8: 30 a.m.
MOTION: Made by Dr. Benedict to continue Petition R-88-6C on
August 17, 1988 and visit the site on Wednesday, August
10, 1988. Seconded by Mr. Below. Carried 4/0.
ITEM: Revision of EAC Standard Stipulation #2 .
COMMENTS: Ms. Muldoon read EAC Standard Stipulation #2
which states that the "native species shall be
utilized, where available, to the maximum extent
possible in the site landscaping design" . She
noted that NRMD has required that developers
comply with this stipulation by utilizing an
overall percentage of 60% native plants for
landscaping use. However , she indicated that
there are several problems with this method.
She noted that landscapers and landscape archi-
tects believe that the 60% figure is
inappropriate. She noted that they have
suggested that numbers of gallon containers
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might be better than the number of plants them-
selves. She advised that they do not agree with
giving equal weight to trees vs. ground cover ,
and have suggested that a landscape stipulation
would be in order , such as Lee County' s
landscaping ordinance, where different weights
are given to trees from weights given to grass
and shrubbery. She noted that landscapers would
like to be given credit for utilizing xericscape
principles. She stated that Acting Community
Development Administrator 011iff has stated that he
would like to see the actual language for the
stipulation. She stated that if flexibility is
not allowable, then the language should
distinctly state it, therefore, he has suggested
that a committee consisting of area landscapers
and landscape architects be formed to provide
input for assessment methods for utilizing
native vegetation. She noted that presently
there is a Landscaping Committee formed by the
Agricultural Extension Department, which is
revising the landscaping zoning codes. She
stated that the proposed Committee might be able
to incorporate into this Committee. She further
stated that due to the existing problems, she
was requesting that the EAC recommend the for-
mation of a Committee, or utilize another
Committee for input.
Dr . Benedict concurred with the formation of
such a Committee, however , stated that EAC must
be involved with the adoption of the language;
the representation of a biologist should be con-
sidered, and further examine what action is
being administered by other counties. Ms.
Muldoon, however , reiterated that the Committee
would only be involved in providing the EAC with
input and not the actual writing of the
language, and the adoptive codes . Dr . Benedict
suggested that the County zoning code should be
rewritten to include landscaping.
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ITEM: ADDENDA
COMMENTS: Mr . Snyder asked for an up-date on the
Comprehensive, and Mr . Lorenz advised that at the
July 20 , 1988 the BCC directed Staff to redeye-
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lop a plan and schedule to rework the Comp Plan
and compile a Committee to address goals, objec-
tives and policies . He noted that on August 16 ,
1988 they would present the BCC with the plan
and the make-up of the Committee. He indicated
that the Committee would be composed of Audubon
Society, The Conservancy and other environmental
groups. He stated that once the DCA comments
are received they would be factored into the
Comp Plan.
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There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned
by Order of the Chair .
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Mark Benedict, Chairman
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