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CCPC Minutes 01/16/2003 R January 16, 2003 TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION Naples, Florida, January 16, 2003 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the, Collier County Planning Commission in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 8:30 AM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Kenneth Abernathy Mark Strain David Wolfley Lora Jean Young Lindy Adelstein Paul Midney Russell Budd Dwight Richardson ALSO PRESENT: Joe Schmitt, Community Dev. & Environmental Serv. Ray Bellows, Chief Planner, Planning Services Dept. Patrick White, Assistant County Attorney Greg Garcia, Transportation Mike Bosi, Planning Services Dept. AGENDA 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MEET AT 8:30 A.M., THURSDAY, JANUARY 16, 2003 IN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ROOM, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER, 3301 TAMIAMI TRAIL EAST, NAPLES, FLORIDA: NOTE: INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMrrED TO 5 MINUTES ON ANY ITEM. INDIVIDUALS SELECTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AN ORGANIZATION OR GROUP ARE ENCOURAGED AND MAY BE ALLOTTED 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM IF SO RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN. PERSONS WISHING TO HAVE WRITTEN OR GRAPHIC MATERIALS INCLUDED IN THE CCPC AGENDA PACKETS MUST SUBMrr SAID MATERIAL A MINIMUM OF 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE RESPECTIVE PUBLIC HEARING. IN ANY CASE, WRITrEN MATERIALS INTENDED TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE CCPC SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE APPROPRIATE COUNTY STAFF A MINIMUM OF SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL MATERIAL USED IN PRESENTATIONS BEFORE THE CCPC WILL BECOME A PERMANENT PART OF THE RECORD AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IF APPLICABLE. ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THE CCPC WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAy NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL BY CLERK ADDENDA TO THE AGENDA APPROVAL OF MINUTES- DECEMBER 19, 2002 PLANNING COMMISSION ABSENCES BCC REPORT- RECAPS- NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME CHAIRMAN'S REPORT ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS Ao VA-2002-AR-3328, Ron Fair, P.E., of AEC Services, Inc., represenfin~ Circle K Stores, requesting a 39-foot variance from the required 50-foot from yard setback along Imi~iokalee Road, to rephce a damaged canopy over existing gas pumps. Setbacks have increased from 25 feet to 50 feet since the canopy was originally installed 20 years ago, property is located at 10996 Winter View Drive, Four Seasons subdivision, Lot 1, Block A, Section 25, Township 48 South, Range 25 East, Collier County, Florida, consisting of 1.22~ acres. (Coordinator: M2.&e Bosi) Bo CU-2002-AR-2836, Craig Smith, for Naples Progressive Gymnastics requesting conditional use 19 and 20 of the "A" Rural Agricultural zoning district for sports instructional schools and camps and sporting and recreational camps per Section 2.2.2.3 for property located at 3275 Pine Ridge Road, in Section 12, Township 49 South, Range 25 East, Collier County, Florida, consisting of 6~ acres. (Coordinator: Mike Bosi) 9. OLD BUSINESS 9. NEW BUSINESS: 10. PUBLIC CO~ ri'EM 11. DISCUSSION OF ADDENDA 12. ADJOURN 01/16/03/CCPC AGENDA/SM/sp 2 January 16, 2003 1. Pledge of Allegiance was recited with Chairman Abernathy calling the meeting to order at 8:30 AM. 2. Roll call was taken - a quorum was established. e Addenda to the Agenda - Mr. Strain added "Advertising" to New Business. Mrs. Young arrived at 8:35 AM Ray Bellows withdrew Item 8A, VA-2002-AR-3328 from the Agenda. Approval of Minutes-December 19, 2002 Mr. Richardson moved to approve the minutes of December 19, 2002. Seconded Mr. Budd. Carried 8-0. 5. Planning Commission Absences - Mr. Strain may have a conflict with the February 6th meeting. 6. BCC Report - Recaps - Not available at this time. 7. Chairman's Report - None 8. Advertised Public Hearings: B. CU-2002-AR-2836, Craig Smith, for Naples Progressive Gymnastics requesting a conditional use 19 and 20 of the "A" Rural Agricultural zoning district for sports instruction schools, camps and sporting and recreational camps for property located at 3275 Pine Ridge Road, Collier County, FL, consisting of 6 plus acres. Mike Bosi - Planning Services - Craig Smith is owner and operator of Naples Progressive Gymnastics seeking approval fro the expansion of the currently approved conditional uses 19 & 20 in the Rural Agricultural zoning district for sports instructional schools, camps and recreational camps. He showed the geographical area on Pine Ridge Road on the visualizer. Proposal for the expansion is to add 9,000 square feet to the additional existing gym and to the north of the property. Also enclose the existing outdoor pool to the east and add a bath house. This is to utilize it year around. The Community School is north of the property. To the East is an undeveloped tract of land which has a special treatment overlay for environmental issues, and also a Ballet School to the East. There is a clustering of instruction and educational facilities in the area. The character of the surrounding land uses has been dictated by Naples Gymnastics. The trip generation based on the expansion is 206 vehicles per day with 16 in peak hours. The property is within the urban sub-district, on a major arterial road and the addition of traffic that will be added to the road was not significant. Ingress and Egress will remain the same. There is a landscape buffering to the school north and an area of parking that separates the uses. A buffering and lake is on the West and fits well with the neighborhood and compatible with the adjacent uses. Staff has recommended approval. 2 January 16, 2003 Mr. Adelstein asked about making a U-Turn exiting East bound to go west. There is only a right in and a fight out. Response was west bound traffic would make a U-turn to go East. The road is designated at Level "E". The present volume on the road is 53,113 within the TIS. Mr. Adelstein would like to know how many cars are on the road now. Ray Bellows stated the project will generate 206 additional vehicles per day which is less than 5% of the established Growth Management Plan. Mr. Bosi figured with a 9,000 square foot addition the amount of traffic generated per day will be 412 vehicles. Mr. Wolfley asked if an Agricultural Zoning ever expires. The answer was "no", but can be replaced through a rezoning process. PETITIONER Craig Smith - Owner & director of Naples Progressive Gymnastics - he clarified a few things: 500-600 students per week attend the Gym. He has tried to get a median cut for several years, but was told the Community school was too close and needed to be within 500 feet. He tried to buy some of the property, but being not residential he couldn't tie into that area. When Livingston Road went through, traffic south of the Gym would go across Radio Rd or Golden Gate Parkway, come up through Livingston Road, catch the light and come around that area. He is still waiting for the area north of them to finish Livingston Rd and then make the turn onto Pine Ridge Rd and have a traffic light for access. Right now they have to make a U-Turn and have presently put up a No-U-Turn sign. The parents were very upset. They have not had a problem with the light at the present time. They needed a zoning to address a sports school and a training camp facility. That's how they acquired the rural agricultural zoning. They have 4 duplex unit cabins. It is a dormitory style cabins or the camp. The residents are at the facility. Mr. Strain asked if there was an interconnection on it from the north expansion parking lot to Community School it might be helpful. Those that testified or will testify were sworn in by Mr. Abernathy. Disclosures - None. Greg Garcia - Transportation - Community School was in with plans yesterday. There may have been some problems with an interconnection because of some sensitive lands along the property line. Mr. Strain asked since the County is negotiating with the Community School and a potential for a connection in the future, as a stipulation for approval could we add 3 January 16, 2003 that should there be a connection opportunity in the future and it be instituted as part of the agreement? Greg said they would look for a connection if possible and the he understands the Community School will be putting in gates in the future. Mr. Strain wondered if in stressing interconnections in the Growth Management Plan and the LDC, isn't it defeating the purpose of allowing gates going up? Mr. Garcia commented the property at the Community School is private property as well as the Gym. Discussion followed on interconnections and private properties. Mr. Strain felt he would still like to see the stipulation in the approval process. Mr. Smith felt if a gate is there, they could still make an access in that particular area. Mr. Garcia stated the County will look into the idea. According to plans submitted the principal entrance will be off Livingston Road. He does not know what degree the entrance will be used in the future but will look into the possibility of an interconnection. Mr. Smith commented he would like his plans expedited as soon as possible. The hearing is closed for discussion and motion. Mr. Strain moved to recommend approval for Petition CU-2002-AR-2836, with staff recommendation and a stipulation if there is ever an opportunbity to interconnect with the Community Schgool property, that it is utilized. Seconded Mr. Budd. Carried 8-0. OLD BUSINESS: Mr. Schmitt introduced Mike Deruntz as a new member from St. Louis, MO. He has a background in Planning as Director of Community Development. 10. NEW BUSINESS: A. Advertising - Mr. Strain presented samples of advertising to the Committee. One was from the City of Naples. The way the ad is laid out is very plain, written in plain English, not all Capitalization's, no hidden information, map is clear, and the legal description is at the bottom. A typical ad of the Counties is not reader friendly. It is sometimes difficult for the public to read the Public Notices because of the language etc. They need to be more reader friendly. He feels that is one of the reasons there isn't always a lot of public input because they can't read the ads or understand them. Mr. Schmitt stated he has been working on for 6 months and has been a significant change in the public notification meetings but a laborious process in doing what Mr. Strain is suggesting. His public information coordinator is working with the planning staff and with the legal department to meet all the legal 4 January 16, 2003 requirements for the legal notification and notify the public in plain English. He likes the way the city of Naples lays out their advertising and will be seeing changes in the very near future. It hasn't gone as fast as he had hoped, but legal and everyone has to agree with it and will be brought forward as soon as they can. To change the Public Information announcement requires an LDC change which was done a week ago by the BCC. The size of the lettering can now be reduced. It was decided the City of Naples advertising is definitely more user friendly and the County is working on changing to a clearer concept for the County. Ray Bellows said the public information meetings are more successful and has improved in the past year. Mr. Richardson asked if there was any other information from the School Board. Mr. Schmitt would like to have the School Board come before the Planning Commission and layout future plans and talk about the revised Inter-local agreement. The replacement for Mr. Fry on the Planning Commission was discussed. An Executive Summary before the BCC has not been submitted with applicants yet so Mr. Schmitt will follow up for the next meeting. Mr. Richardson asked about the Workshop for the Planning Commission. Discussion followed as Mr. Schmitt needs to set up a date. He needs to get staff time and resources freed up for a future date. The BCC is asking for a Workshop on sign ordinance, height of flag poles, building heights, county submerged lands for density and setbacks for residential communities. A Joint Workshop was discussed as the Planning Commission is also interested in the above subjects. Mr. Schmitt mentioned at the LDC hearings the BCC is leaning towards LDC Amendments that will give the Planning Commission more decision authority rather than a body that recommends. It is being looked into from a legal aspect. A lengthy discussion followed on the different opinions of having a Joint workshop with the Board of County Commissioners and the Planning Commission. Some favored being in the audience and speaking as a member of the public - or speaking as a Planning Commissioner and being a public participant. Mr. Schmitt stated the Commissioners rely heavily on the Planning Commissioners decisions. He will check with the County Manager, Mr. Mudd to get his views on a Workshop and report back to the Committee. 11. PUBLIC COMMENT ITEM - None 5 January 16, 2003 12. DISCUSSION OF ADDENDA - None Being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by the order of the Chair at 9:35 AM. COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION Chairman Kenneth L. Abemathy 6