CAC Minutes 12/12/2002 RTRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COASTAL
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, December 12, 2002
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Coastal Advisory Committee
in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at 1:30 PM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F of the
Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
CHAIRMAN: Gary Galleberg
William Kroeschell
Ron Pennington
James Snediker
Ashley Lupo (Absent)
Robert Stakich (Absent)
David Roellig
Anthony Pires
John Strapponi
ALSO PRESENT: Ron Hovell - Coastal Projects/Public Utilities
Dr. Jon Staiger- City of Naples
NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN OF A COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEE MEETING IN THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
BOARDROOM, THIRD FLOOR, W. HARMON TURNER BUILDING
(ADMINISTRATION), AT THE COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMPLEX,
3301 EAST TAMIAMI TRAIL, NAPLES, FLORIDA AT 1:30 P.M. ON DECEMBER
12, 2002.
AGENDA
Roll Call
Additions to Agenda
Old Business
a. Approval o£minutes £or November 14, 2002
b. 10-Year Plan Discussion
New Business
a. FEMA update
b. Florida Shore & Beach Preservation Association Membership
c. Proposed TDC Category 'A' Grant Application Form
Audience Participation
Schedule next meeting
Adjoumment
ADDITIONALLY, THIS NOTICE ADVISED THAT, IF A PERSON DECIDES TO
APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE BY THE COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE,
WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERED AT THIS MEETING, HE WILL
NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS AND THAT FOR SUCH PURPOSE, HE
MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS
IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
1. Roll Call
Chairman Gary Galleberg noted that a quorum was present with Mr.
Stakich and Ms. Lupo absent.
2. Additions to the Agenda
Mr. Hovell stated he would provide an update on construction projects that
would be covered under Old Business.
3. Old Business:
a. Approval of Minutes -November 14, 2002
Mr. Permington had the following changes:
Page 1 - met at 1:30 PM - not 1:30 AM
- Page 4 - under engineering services - it is not "Georgia" sand - should read
"yards" of sand.
- Page 5 - first line - second paragraph - should read rock "groins" not "growing"
- Page 7 & following pages - since there are two Ron's - need to put last name.
- Page 1 - Mr. Stakich name misspelled.
- Page 4 - Mr. Pierro's name misspelled in one place
- Page 5 - Should read "injection wells" not "ejection"
- Page 5 - the paragraph on staff giving direction should refer to "the outfall or
drainage pipes".
Mr. Kroescheil moved to approve the minutes as corrected. Second Mr.
Pennington.
Carried unanimously 7-0.
b. Construction Projects - Mr. Hovell reported the removal of rock from
Vanderbilt Beach in the month of November was completed with 570 tons being
removed.
The addition of sand in Pelican Bay and Vanderbilt Beach has been completed.
They started dredging Wiggins Pass Tuesday and will be done early next week.
Started the truck haul to Hideaway Beach yesterday. It will take 3-4 weeks.
c. 1 O-year Plan - Mr. Hovell gave an updated draft dated 11-27-02.
- The Marco Island breakwater project was cancelled that was approved by the
Board-- added in additional cost because of Wiggins Pass Dredging which hadn't
been anticipated for the year.
- Lowered the estimate for Project #90507 (which had all the money from tropical
storm Gabriel recovery). Can finance $3.3M construction cost for the Vanderbilt
Parking Garage. Was a total of $3.89M- half a million for the engineering fees -
balance for construction costs? He proposed spending the engineering fees up front
and will finance them over 10 years.
Mr. Pennington asked if financing the parking garage was to facilitate getting more
money for the full beach renourishment project.
Mr. Hovell stated they did not want to run the 2004 figure into a negative number. It
is a potential way to get through the high year anticipating the funding for the major
renom-ishment project. From a grant aspect the funds have been approved for the
parking garage. They have not awarded the design to an engineer yet due to a legal
action. He didn't think they had to go to the Board for the financing concept; it
would be part of the budget process. The Boards approval of the Budget would be an
approved plan.
Mr. Hovell asked what they would do with the truck hauls. He suggested an option to
continue to budget approx. 50,000 cubic yards worth of sand a year or have a
different strategy - a lesser amount or none at all.
Mr. Hovell will put the "Revenue", "Truck Haul" and "criteria for prioritizing" as
specific disscussions for the January agenda.
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New Business:
a. FEMA Update - FEMA did support their appeal and approved Vanderbilt
and Naples beaches be added to the Park Shore Beach. All three are now
eligible for the FEMA Funding. Tallahassee said it was the first
successful appeal of the 5 year rule. FEMA says if there hasn't been sand
added within 5 years it usually is not eligible. Estimate would be approx.
$2M.
Florida Shore & Beach Preservation Association Membership -
Mr. Howell provided a copy of the letter from the Association. They are
asking for them to join "Beach Watch". It is a lobbying group that tries to
protect the money for beach funding in the State.
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Mr. Pennington moved they do not join "Beach Watch".
Seconded Mr. Snediker. Carried Unanimously 7-0.
Proposed TDC Category "A" Grant Application Form - Mr. Pires said
they are getting a "real" short version. He feels this form provides for less
information. He feels the application should address criteria and
guidelines. It had the criteria but the answers didn't relate to what the
questions were.
Discussion followed on specifics being addressed on the application.
Mr. Hovell stated the TDC had no specific desires in changing the form.
He didn't think there was any rational in having any specific questions in
the form, so could make it whatever they feel it should be and take it back
to the TDC.
The shorter form is better and perhaps more detail on a project would be
helpful.
Mr. Hovel did mention the Budget and Clerks office would also like to see
more details and specificity on project locations.
Mr. Pennington moved they approve the form with the recommended
modifications from the Committee. Seconded Mr. Roellig.
Carried Unanimously %0.
5. Audience Participation - No one from the audience chose to address the CAC.
Mr. Snediker said the city of Marco Island is going to do the grooming with the Gator
instead of the beach raking machine.
Chairman Galleberg brought the issue of the storm drain pipes up to the City Council
and asked Mr. Hovell to write a letter to the City Manager outlining the issue and
hopes everyone will work together. He would like to have staff write the letter and
provide a copy to the Committee.
6. Schedule next meeting - January 9th, 2003 -- 1:30 PM.
7. Adjournment - meeting was adjourned at 2:40 PM