Clam Bay Advisory Minutes 07/16/2009
July 16,2009
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
CLAM BAY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, July 16, 2009
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Clam Bay Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 2:30 P.M., North Collier Regional Park in the
Administration Building in Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
Chairman: James A. Carroll
Vice Chairman: John Arceri
Ronald A. Glah
Noah Standridge (Excused)
Robert Rogers
Kathy B. Worley
David Roellig
Tahlmann Krumm, Ir.
David Farmer
ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management
Gail Hambright, Accountant
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney
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MEETING AGENDA
CLAM BAY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, JULY 16, 2009 - 2:30 P.M.
North Collier Regional Park, 15000 Livingston Road, Exhibit Hall, Room A6, Naples.
I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
V. Public Comment
VI. Approval of Minutes
1. April 16, 2009 - Clam Bay Advisory Committee minutes
VII. Chairman's Comments
1. Role of Sub-Committee Verses Main Committee Discussion
VIII. Staff Reports
I. Activities ofBCC - Update
a. Mission Statement
b. Permit Application
c. Channel Marking
d. Water Quality Study
IX. New Business
1. Work Plan Review and Approval for Data Existing Modeling Review and
Analysis as well as Collection of New Data.
2. Endorsement of an Interlocal Agreement with The City of Naples for $25,000
Funding.
X. Old Business
1. Maintenance Dredging Permit - Update
2. Channel Marking Status/Progress - Update
3. Communications - Jim Carroll
XI. Announcements
XII. Committee Member Discussion
XIII. Next Meeting Date/Location
August 20, 2009 - North Collier Regional Park, 15000 Livingston Road, Exhibit Hall,
Room A3. Naples.
XIV. Adjournment
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July 16, 2009
I. Call to Order
Chairman Carroll called the meeting to order at 2:32 PM
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call
Roll Call was taken and a quorum was established.
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Mr. Arceri moved to approve the Agenda. Second by Mr. Krumm. Carried
unanimously 8-0.
V. Chairman's Comments
1. Role of Sub-Committee versus Main Committee Discussion
Chairman Carroll noted with many of the Subcommittee tasks being completed,
the Main Committee will handle any remaining issues unless otherwise required.
An Agenda item is necessary for the next meeting to review how to complete the
task assigned by the Board of County Commissioners given the deadlines
imposed.
VI. Approval of Minutes
1. April 16, 2009
Mr. Krumm moved to approve the minutes of the April 16, 2009 meeting.
Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried unanimously 8-0.
VII. Staff Reports
1. Activities of BCC - Update
Gary McAlpin, Director, Coastal Zone Management provided the updates.
a. Mission Statement
The Board of County Commissioners approved the Mission Statement on
May 26, 2009 with no modifications.
b. Permit Application
The Board of County Commissioners approved the application submittal for
the new 10-year permit on May 26,2009.
The existing permit has expired, however, the regulating parties will accept a
request for any necessary work in the event of a storm emergency.
The new permit will be a Joint Coastal Permit OCP) issued by the Florida
Department of Environmental Protection and the US Army Corps of
Engineers.
Staff anticipates it will be approximately 9-12 months before the permit is
issued.
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c. Channel Marking
The Board of County Commissioners reviewed the Channel Marking Plan
approved by the Committee on May 26,2009. Various parties spoke on the
issue and no decision was made.
Commissioner Coyle recommended ajoint meeting be held May 29,2009
between the Seagate Homeowners Association, Pelican Bay Foundation,
Clam Bay Advisory Committee (CBAC) and Staff to see if an agreement for
marking the channel could be reached.
Subsequent to the meeting, no agreement could be reached between the
affected parties.
The item returned to the Board of County Commissioners on June 23, 2009
and the Channel Marking Plan was approved as originally proposed by the
CBAC.
It was noted the Committee's work on this item has concluded.
Discussion occurred about the US Army Corps Engineers (US ACE) issuing a
statement the markers do not have to be the "red and green" markers.
Gary McAlpin noted the County has not received a copy of that statement.
Discussion occurred on a June 9, 2009 memorandum from Lanie Edward's of
the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) to County Staff,
which indicated the FDEP permit will not require the installation of
"navigational markers" and this statements possible impact on the BCC
decision to mark the channel.
Gary McAlpin clarified there are two permits in question in reference to the
Joint Coastal Permit previously issued, the FDEP permit and the US ACE
permit. The FDEP has indicated they will enforce the "informational signs"
required in their permit, not the navigational channel markers. The USACE
permit does require "navigational markers" to be installed and Staff has not
received any statements to the contrary from the USACE.
Discussion occurred noting even if a permit does not require "navigational
markers" be installed, does the County have an obligation to mark the channel
to ensure the safe navigation of vessels?
d. Water Quality Study
It was noted the Committee's focus should now be on the Water Quality of
the System.
VIII. New Business
1. Work Plan Review and Approval for Data Existing Modeling Review and
Analysis as well as Collection of New Data.
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Gary McAlpin provided the Executive Summary "Work Plan and Approval for
Existing Data and Modeling Review/Analysis and the collection of New Data
required for the Water Quality Analysis. "
He noted:
. The Study proposed by PBS&J was presented to the BCC on June 23,
2009 and Staff requested complete funding of the Study.
. The BCC authorized funding the "I st Phase" of the Study in the
amount of$120,000 (to review the existing data and collect the new
data, etc. required in the proposed Study).
. The City of Naples has pledged an additional $25,000 to aid in funding
the Study.
. Upon completion of the Phase, the results will be presented to the
BCC for discussion on moving forward with the "Modeling Phase."
It was noted the CBAC should continue to stress the importance of the "Modeling
Phase" of the study as the result flushing requirements, etc. will assist in
maintaining the ongoing health ofthe System.
Discussion occurred noting the Florida Department of Environmental Protection
is revising Water Quality Standards. Is the Study pre-mature and should it be
postponed until the new standards have been adopted?
Gary McAlpin noted one aspect of the Study is to develop "unique standards"
required to maintain the Water Quality in the Clam Bay System. Concern exists
that uniform State of Florida Water Quality Standards may not pertain to all
systems within the State and may be counterproductive to the health of some
individual systems. This issue has been addressed by Dr. Tomasko ofPBS&J.
Gary McAlpin noted in conclusion, Staff recommends the Clam Bay Advisory
Group approve the Executive Summary.
Mr. Farmer left at 3:25 p.m.
Discussion occurred on why PBS&J was chosen to complete the work as other
local firms have completed work in the past for the County and Pelican Bay
Foundation. Some individuals/organizations have objected to PBS&J completing
the Study.
Gary McAlpin noted PBS&J is qualified by the County to complete the work and
has been chosen to provide a new "independent analysis" of the entire System.
Discussion ensued on the availability of funds to complete the remaining phases
of the Study.
Gary McAlpin anticipates funds for the "Modeling Study" will be provided from
Tourist Development Council funds and the "Peer Review" will require General
Revenue funds.
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Discussion occurred if Humiston and Moore and Terrell Hall and Assoc. should
address the Committee on the results of their Studies previously conducted on the
System.
Mr. Arceri moved to approve thefirst three steps of the Water Quality Program
including Development of a Water Quality Program, Sediment and Biological
Characterization and Physical Data Collection by PBS&J for a price of about
$140,000. (This Phase of) the Study to be completed by November and include
in the Summary of the Report, the necessity of completing the Modelillg Phase
of the Study. Second by Mr. Krumm.
Speaker
Jerry Moffatt, Pelican Bay Services Division noted the Division has taken no
formal position on engaging PBS&J to complete the new Study.
Motion carried unanimously 7-0.
2. Endorsement of an Inter-local Agreement with the City of Naples for $25,000
Funding.
Gary McAlpin presented the Executive Summary "Obtain the CBAC
endorsement to obtain an Inter-local Agreement with the City of Naples for
$25,000 to share cost for the Developing a Water Quality Monitoring Program."
Mr. Krumm moved to approve the Executive Summary (Obtain the CBAC
endorsement to obtain an Inter-local Agreement with the City of Naples for
$25,000 to share cost for the Developing a Water Quality Monitoring
Program. '') Second by Mr. Roellig. Carried unanimously 7-0.
IX. Old Business
1. Maintenance Dredging Permit - Update
Discussed under Staff Reports
2. Channel Marking Status/Progress - Update
Discussed under Staff Reports
3. Communications - Jim Carroll
Chairman Carroll outlined the necessity of providing public communications on
the activities ofthe Clam Bay Advisory Committee (CBAC). The following was
noted:
. There are no funds available for a direct mailing to the public.
. Concern the Naples Daily News does not cover the meeting and
should they be contacted?
. A letter to the editor could be provided to local publications.
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Speaker
Noreen Murray, Pelican Bay Resident recommended the Committee post any
applicable communications on the "Community Forum" page of the Pelican Bay
Website. She acknowledged there is confusion within the Pelican Bay
Community over the tasks being undertaken by the CBAC.
X. Announcements
Gary McAlpin recommended if Committee members have concerns over CBAC
items, they be addressed at their forums, not the Board of County Commission
meetings. CBAC items will be presented to the BCC with "one voice." This activity
has the potential to negatively effect funding requests presented to the BCC.
XI. Committee Member Discussion
Mr. Arceri noted he has received public communications expressing concerns over
conflicts between swimmers and boaters in Clam Pass and inquired if the CBAC is
going to address the issue?
Gary McAlpin noted he has contacted Pelican Bay Foundation for 2 proposed
informational signs/markers in the Pass and is in the process of developing the exact
wording for the signs.
An update will be provided at the next meeting.
Ms. Worley noted there are outstanding items from Subcommittee tasks such as
proposals by Consultants, etc.
It was noted these issues will be addressed by the CBAC at the next Regular meeting.
XII. Next Meeting Date
To be determined
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 4:06 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY CLAM BAY ADVISORY
COMMITTEE
James A. Carroll, Chairman
These Minutes approved by the Board/Committee on
as presented or as amended
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