HEX Transcript 08/11/2016 August 11,2016 HEX Meeting
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY HEARING EXAMINER
Naples,Florida
August 11,2016
LET IT BE REMEMBERED,that the Collier County Hearing Examiner, in and for the County of
Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in REGULAR SESSION at 2800
North Horseshoe Drive,Room 609/610,Naples,Florida,with the following people present:
HEARING EXAMINER MARK STRAIN
ALSO PRESENT: Raymond V.Bellows,Zoning Manager
Eric Johnson,Principal Planner
Rachel Beasley,Planner
Heidi Ashton-Cicko,Managing Assistant County Attorney
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AGENDA
THE COLLIER COUNTY HEARING EXAMINER
WILL HOLD A HEARING AT 9:00 AM ON THURSDAY,AUGUST 11,2016 IN CONFERENCE ROOM 610
AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT/PLANNING& REGULATION BUILDING,2800 N.
HORSESHOE DRIVE,NAPLES,FLORIDA
INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO 5 MINUTES UNLESS OTHERWISE WAIVED BY THE
HEARING EXAMINER. PERSONS WISHING TO HAVE WRITTEN OR GRAPHIC MATERIALS
INCLUDED IN THE HEARING REPORT PACKETS MUST HAVE THAT MATERIAL SUBMITTED TO
COUNTY STAFF 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING. ALL MATERIALS USED DURING
PRESENTATION AT THE HEARING WILL BECOME A PERMANENT PART OF THE RECORD.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THE HEARING EXAMINER WILL NEED A
RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO
ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD
INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
DECISIONS OF THE HEARING EXAMINER ARE FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
HEARING PROCEDURES WILL PROVIDE FOR PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT,
PRESENTATION BY STAFF, PUBLIC COMMENT AND APPLICANT REBUTTAL. THE HEARING
EXAMINER WILL RENDER A DECISION WITHIN 30 DAYS. PERSONS WISHING TO RECEIVE A
COPY OF THE DECISION BY MAIL MAY SUPPLY COUNTY STAFF WITH THEIR NAME, ADDRESS,
AND A STAMPED, SELF-ADDRESSED ENVELOPE FOR THAT PURPOSE. PERSONS WISHING TO
RECEIVE AN ELECTRONIC COPY OF THE DECISION MAY SUPPLY THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS.
1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
2. REVIEW OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF PRIOR MEETING MINUTES: July 14,2016
4. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. PETITION NO. SV-PL20160000885 — SD Tract 22, LLC requests a variance from LDC Section
5.06.04 F.3, which allows 1 directory sign at one entrance on each public street for multiple-occupancy
parcels or multiple parcels developed under a unified development plan, with a minimum of 8
independent units, and containing 20,000 square feet or more of leasable floor area, to instead allow the
directory sign on Collier Boulevard to be located south of the entrance on Collier Boulevard, for the
proposed Hogan's Plaza commercial development consisting of 9 ± acres located within the Lely, A
Resort Community PUD, Ordinance 92-15, as amended, on the northwest corner of the intersection of
Collier Boulevard and Grand Lely Drive, in Section 27, Township 50 South, Range 26 East.
[Coordinator: Eric Johnson, Principal Planner]
B. PETITION NO. ZLTR(CUD)-PL20160000898 — Johnson Development Associates, Inc. requests
affirmation of a zoning verification letter issued by the Planning and Zoning Division pursuant to LDC
Section 10.02.06, in which County staff determined that the proposed use of self-storage/mini-
warehouse (SIC 4225) is comparable in nature with the permitted principal uses in the Commercial
District under Section 4.3(A) of the Sierra Meadows PUD, Ordinance No. 99-91, as amended, and with
the C-4 General Commercial District in effect on the date of approval of Ordinance No. 99-91. The
subject properties are located on the south side of Rattlesnake Hammock Road, approximately one-
quarter mile west of Collier Blvd. (C.R. 951) in Section 22, Township 50 South, Range 26 East, Collier
County,Florida,consisting of 3.37±acres. [Coordinator: Rachel Beasley,Planner]
5. OTHER BUSINESS
6. PUBLIC COMMENTS
7. ADJOURN
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PROCEEDINGS
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Good morning,everyone. Welcome to the Thursday,August
11th meeting of the Collier County Hearing Examiner's Office.
If everybody will please rise for Pledge of Allegiance.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Housekeeping matters: Individual speakers will be limited to
five minutes unless otherwise waived. All decisions are final unless appealed to the Board of County
Commissioners,and a decision will be render within 30 days. Usually it's a lot less,but that's what the time
allotted is.
Review of the agenda: We have two items,4A and 4B. They're up on the screen. Both will be
heard today. No changes to that.
Approval of prior minute meetings of July 14,2016,are okay to be recorded as submitted.
***That takes us into the first advertised public hearing. It's Item 4A. It's Petition No.
SV-PL20160000885,SD Tract 22,LLC,which is also the Hogan Plaza sign variance and the PUD Lely on
951.
All those wishing to testify on behalf of this item,please rise to be sworn in by the court reporter.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Are there any members of the public here for this item?
(No response.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. Disclosures on my part: I've talked with the applicant
once or twice. I've also had discussions with staff and reviewed all the files,both what the staff supplied plus
the historic ones in the county filing system.
Alexis,if you don't mind. Can you identify yourself for the record.
MS.CRESPO: Good morning. Alexis Crespo with Waldrop Engineering.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. There's no members of the public here for this item,
so--I've read everything. I don't need a formal presentation.
I had a couple of issues,one which will be of staff. I just want to make sure there's nothing involving
your issue,and there isn't.
Have you received any opposition to this in writing?
MS.CRESPO: No.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. Thank you.That's all the questions 1 have.
MS.CRESPO: Thank you.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: And this is,Eric,your issue?
MR.JOHNSON: That's correct.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay.
MR.JOHNSON: For the record,Eric Johnson,principal planner,zoning.
Other than a correction that was made in the title that's reflected in the Naples Daily News ad but
wasn't in the mail-outs that were sent by Phase V staff--that's not an issue,according to the County Attorney's
Office. Staffs recommending approval of the project as requested.
There are some references in the staff report about how the location of the project entrance along the
roadway where the sign would be located was influenced by the access management policy. I need to clarify
that,that it's actually something that was influenced in part by staff as well in the decision making as to how
that entrance location came to be.
And I had spoke with Mike Sawyer before the meeting. So if you have any questions about that
location of the entrance,I can defer that to Mr.Sawyer.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: No,I don't. I have more questions about the nature in which
this came about.
The language that was questioned or that is under review today is under directory signs.There's a
sentence that basically says if you're 20,000 square feet or more,the leasable floor area shall be permitted one
directory sign at one entrance on each public street.
And I understand that since staff has determined--"at one entrance"means what?Exactly where
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would you have expected this sign to be? Because based on that language,there's nothing that says"at one
entrance"wouldn't mean along that street front.
I think somewhere in here(indicating)is where I believe staff indicates it should have gone,and really
they want it here(indicating).And is there any life,public health,safety,welfare issues involved in the location
of that sign being moved from there to here?
MR.BELLOWS: For the record,Ray Bellows.The language has been historically interpreted to be
at the entrance to the commercial center,but there are no life safety/health issues that the locations show.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. And my concern is,it's at the commercial entrance.
"At"isn't defined,and I'm just suggesting,if we have more of these come down,we may want to look at how
we look at the distance from the entrance that we're trying to adhere to,because there's no distance noted in this.
It may require some corrections to the LDC if needed. Just a thought,because at one point staff felt
that this was--it needed some guidance as to how near or far the directory sign must be from the entrance,and
then the next sentence the staff says,this clearly does not meet the intent of the standard. I don't think it can
clearly not meet the intent if the intent isn't clearly spelled out.
So anyway,I've had a concern about this from the time I read it,and I would suggest maybe we can
find a way to clarify it for any future applications.
MR.BELLOWS: Yes. I'll work with Mike Bosi,the zoning director. And if we have to clarify it
or do an LDC amendment,we will.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: And,Eric,did you have any opposition to this?
MR.JOHNSON: I received a phone call and emails,and the emails were attached to this.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: All right. And you didn't notice--they seemed like questions,
not opposition;does that--
MR.JOHNSON: I would characterize it as questions,yes. I think the gentleman was concerned that
the sign would be too close to the south. I don't--yeah,I don't know how to characterize it.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: I didn't see anything that indicated opposition--that's what I
wanted to clarify--did you?
MR.JOHNSON: No.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. With that,I'll close this meeting,and I will--a decision
will be rendered within 30 days but most likely within 10.
Okay. And thank you,Alexis.
MS.CRESPO: Thank you.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: ***The next item up is Petition No.
ZLTR(CUD)PL20160000898,Johnson Development Associates. It's for a comparable use determination for
the Sierra Meadows PUD.
All those wishing to testify on behalf of this item,please rise to be sworn by the court reporter.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. For my disclosures,I've talked with the applicant,
various representatives of the applicant,I've talked with staff,and I've reviewed all the files,those supplied in
the staff report and those on file with the county.
With that,is there any members of the public here for this item today?
(No response.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. I don't know who's going to represent the applicant.
We've got a new attorney I see. First time in Collier County?
MR.YOVANOVICH: That would be me.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Would you mind coming up to the mike.
MR.YOVANOVICH: Sir.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: I need your name for the record.
MR.YOVANOVICH: Rich Yovanovich. Do you need me to spell it?
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: No.
MR.YOVANOVICH: Okay.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: You are well known,Richard,so welcome to this meeting.
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I had a--I have read the staff report,and there's no members of the public here,so I won't need a
presentation.
I do want to verify what you're asking for.You're asking for enclosed air-conditioned mini storage,
mini self-storage;is that correct?
MR.YOVANOVICH: That is correct.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. You also said you'd comply with the Dark Sky standards
in your letter to the staff; is that correct?
MR.YOVANOVICH: Yes.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: That's the only clarification I wanted,because in reviewing the
zoning verification letter,I did not see staff specifying those kind of conditions. As long as you have no
objection to them,they'll be specified that way.
MR.YOVANOVICH: Okay.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: So thank you.
MR.YOVANOVICH: Thank you.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Rachel,did you have a staff report?
MS.BEASLEY: Yes. A staff report was written,and staff is recommending approval.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Rachel,in your staff report,as I just mentioned to Mr.
Yovanovich,you basically refer to a self-storage/miniwarehouse pursuant to Standard Industrial Code SSC
4225.
My concern there is that this code actually is broader than what they're asking to do,and I don't know if
you had intended that or not. There's the location(indicating). It's across the street from a shopping center
next to a--and this is a senior living facility,and there's going to be commercial on this corner,and this is the
site.
Did you intend for something like that to be allowed on that site? That's from the industrial park
across the street.
MS.BEASLEY: Right. No. And in it,in my zoning letter,I believe I state that it will be similar in
intensity and business to permitted uses in the PUD,i.e.,meaning more like an office.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Well,and I read,it said--in your CVL it says,furthermore,the
characteristic use of the self-storage/miniwarehouse is similar in intensity to and business character to many of
the uses listed in the PUD,but it doesn't--I mean,someone could argue that's got the same intensity and it's got
a business character because it's leased out.
So I would suggest from now on,when staff gets these,they articulate exactly what the applicant
intends to put there as close as possible to what you're implying is consistent with the rest of the PUD.
And if you had said indoor air-conditioned self-storage,that would have been fine. And the applicant
has agreed to that. And I think your stipulation,or your conditions,ought to include the references that,if they
put in a Dark Sky reference,we ought to include that in the conditions as well under staff recommendations.
Does that--are you guys in agreement with that?
MR.BELLOWS: For the record,Ray Bellows.
Yes,I agree with that. And when I reviewed this with Rachel,my thought was we were dealing with
an indoor air conditioned. We'll make sure we are clear on that.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: And I have met with the applicant. They had intended from day
one to provide the kind of facility that I believe we all intend. I just want to make sure the language reflects
what was intended. So that's the only comments I have.
Did you receive any letters of objection or calls or anything like that to this?
MS.BEASLEY: No.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. Well,with that,then I don't have any other issues,so
we'll close the public hearing,and a decision will be rendered within 30 days,most likely within 10.
Thank you all for coming.
Other business: There is none.
Is there any public comments?
(No response.)
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HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Hearing none,this meeting's adjourned. Thank you.
There being no further business for the good of the County,the meeting was adjourned by order of the
Hearing Examiner at 9:12 a.m.
COLLIER C U!d1)Y ARING EXAMINER
MARK STRAIN,HEARING EXAMINER
ATTEST
DWIGHT E. BROCK,CLERK
These minutes approved by the Hearing Examiner on I -2-i.-J{.- ,as presented
or as corrected .
TRANSCRIPT PREPARED ON BEHALF OF
U.S.LEGAL SUPPORT, INC.,
BY TERRI LEWIS,COURT REPORTER AND NOTARY PUBLIC.
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