CCPC Minutes 09/05/2002 RSeptember 5, 2002
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF
THE COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Naples, FL, September 5, 2002
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Planning Commission, in and for the
County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 8:30AM in
Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
Kenneth L. Abernathy
David J. Wolfley
Dwight Richardson
Lora Jean Young
Russel A. Budd
Lindy Adelstein
Paul Midney
Frank Fry
Collier County: Joe Schmitt, Majorie Student, Ray Bellows, Ross Gochenqur, Kay Deselem
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AGENDA
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MEET AT 8:30 A.M., THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 2002, IN
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ROOM, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, COUNTY
GOVERNMENT CENTER, 3301 TAMIAMI TRAIL EAST, NAPLES, FL
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NOTE: INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO 5 MINUTES ON ANY
ITEM. INDIVIDUALS SELECTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AN
ORGANIZATION OR GROUP ARE ENCOURAGED AND MAY BE ALLOTTED 10
MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM IF SO RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
PERSONS WISHING TO HAVE WRITTEN OR GRAPHIC MATERIALS INCLUDED
IN THE CCPC AGENDA PACKETS MUST SUBMIT SAID MATERIAL A
MINIMUM OF 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE RESPECTIVE PUBLIC HEARING. IN
ANY CASE, WRITTEN MATERIALS INTENDED TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE
CCPC SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE APPROPRIATE COUNTY STAFF A
MINIMUM OF SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. ALL
MATERIAL USED IN PRESENTATIONS BEFORE THE CCPC WILL BECOME A
PERMANENT PART OF THE RECORD AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR
PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IF
APPLICABLE.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THE CCPC WILL
NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND
THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSUR~ THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND
EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL BY CLERK
ADDENDA TO THE AGENDA -
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - JULY 18 & 19, 2002, (AUGUST 1, 2002 MINUTES ARE NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS
TIME).
PLANNING COMMISSION ABSENCES: DWIGHT RICHARDSON - ABSENT- AUGUST 1, 2002
BCC REPORT - RECAPS - JULY 30, 2002
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. BD-2002-AR-2416, F. Jeffrey Pusateri, requesting a boathouse protruding 17 ft. into the
waterway at 246 1st Street, further described as Lot 2, Block B, Little Hickory Shores Unit 1.
(Coordinator: Ross Gochenaur)
B. BD-2002-AR-2564, Ben Nelson, of Nelson Marine Construction, representing Richard Bye,
requesting a 28-foot extension for a boat dock facility protruding a total of 48 feet into the
waterway for property located at 267 3rd Street West, further described as Lot 22, Block G, Little
Hickory Shores Unit 3 Replat. (Coordinator: Ross Gochenaur)
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VA-2002-AR-2445, Douglas R. Eaton, PSM, representing Ben Arledge, requesting
the Estates "E" zoning district from the required 75 foot front setback along NE
(south boundary), to allow a 30 foot wide front setback for property located at 4175 33
further described as Lot 70, Golden Gate Estates, Unit 67A, Plat Book 9, page 47 as
Collier County public records, Collier County, Florida in Section 21, Township 48
28 East, Collier County, Florida.(Coordinator: Kay Deselem)
PUDZ-2001-AR-1331, R. Bruce Anderson, of Young van Assenderp, Vamadoe &
representing Martin S. Adler, requesting a rezone from "A" Rural Agricultural to "PUD"
Unit Development to be known as ASGM Business Center of Naples PUD for a Business Park
property located approximately ¼ mile south of Manatee Road on Collier Boulevard, the property
site is immediately south of the Prime Outlet Center in Section 10, Township 51 South, Range 26
East, Collier County, Florida, consisting of 40.88± acres. (Coordinator: Ray Bellows)
PUDA-2002-AR-2559 (RB) Dwight Nadeau of RWA, Inc., representing Waterways Joint
Venture IV, requesting an amendment to the Hibiscus Village PUD to revise Table I to add
development standards to the multi-family land uses to facilitate the opportunity to subdivide lands
in a multi-family tract for fee simple conveyance.
The subject property is located at 14625 Collier Boulevard, in Section 34, Township 48 South,
Range 26 East, Collier County, Florida, consisting of 57.82± acres. (Coordinator: Ray Bellows)
PUDZ-2002-AR-2098, Robert L. Duane, of Hole Montes, Inc., representing Benderson
Development Company, requesting a rezone from PUD to PUD Planned Unit Development known
as Lawmetka Plaza PUD for the purpose of readopting the Lawmetka Plaza Planned Unit
Development Ordinance No. 99-4, which was originally approved by the Collier County Board of
County Commissioners on January 26, 1999, for property located on the northwest comer of
Wiggins Pass Road and U.S. 41, in Sectionl6, Township 48 South, Range 25 East, Collier County,
Florida. (Coordinator: Ray Bellows)
RZ-2001-AR-1595, James G. O'Gara of Marquette, Development Company, representing Golden
Gate Capital, Ltd., requesting a rezone from RSF-3 to RSF-5 for a thirteen-lot single-family
subdivision on 3.15± acres on 2951 44th Terrace SW, further described as Golden Gate Unit 3,
Block 103, as recorded in Plat Book 5, Pages 97-105, Collier County records, in Section 27,
Township 49 South, Range 26 East, Collier County, Florida (Coordinator: Kay Deselem)
(CONTINUED FROM AUGUST 1, 2002 CCPC MEETING)
RZ-2001-AR-1596, James G. O'Gara of Marquette, Development Company, representing Golden
Gate Capital, Ltd., requesting a rezone from RSF-3 to RSF-5 for a thirteen-lot single-family
subdivision on 3.15± acres located at 4501 30th Avenue SW, in Golden Gate Unit #3, Block 104,
Parcel 1, as recorded in Plat Book 5, Pages 97-105, Collier County records, in Section 27,
Township 49 South, Range 26 East, Collier County, Florida. (Coordinator: Kay Deselem)
(CONTINUED FROM AUGUST 1, 2002 CCPC MEETING)
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OLD BUSINESS: PROPOSED CCPC POLICY REGARDING TIMELY SUBMITTAL OF
MATERIALS.
NEW BUSINESS:
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Collier County Planning Commission
County Commission Boardroom
Building "F", 3ra Floor
3301 Tamiami Trail
Naples, FL 34104
Minutes
September 5, 2002
-Chairman Kenneth L. Abernathy called the meeting to order at 8:30AM.
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II. ATTENDANCE:
Members: David J. Wolfley, Dwight Richardson, Lora Jean Young, Kenneth L.
Abernathy, Russel A. Budd, Lindy Adelstein, Paul Midney, Frank Fry
-Mark Strain had an excused absence
Collier County: Joe Schmitt, Majorie Student, Ray Bellows, Ross Gochenqur, Kay
Deselem
III. ADDENDA TO THE AGENDA
-Mr. Abernathy asked if there were any addenda to the agenda other than the procedural
matter that has been added to item 9.
-Mr. Budd made a motion that item C (VA-2002-AR-2445) be continued to the October
3Td, 2002 meeting, it was seconded by Mr. Adelstein, all were in favor, the motion passed
unanimously. -The continuance was due to an advertising mis-hap.
-Mr. Adelstein made a motion that item G (RZ-2001-AR-1595) be granted continuance
indefinitely, the motion was seconded by Mrs. Young, all were in favor, the motion
passed unanimously.
-Mr. Budd made a motion that item H (RZ-2002-AR-1596) be granted continuance
indefinitely, the motion was seconded by Mr. Adelstein, all were in favor, the motion
passed unanimously.
-The continuances requested by the applicant for Item G & H were because they are
attempting to work a deal with the school board to purchase the property and therefore
would moot the items.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - July 18 & 19, 2002
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VII
-Mr. Budd made a motion to approve the minutes, it was seconded by Mrs. Young, all
were in favor, the motion passed unanimously.
PLANNING COMMISSION ABSENCES
-At the meeting of October 19th' 2002 no contemplates an absence.
BCC REPORT - JULY 30TM, 2002
-No comments were given because no meeting was held.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
-Mr. Abernathy stated he had no report to give at this time.
ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS
-The commission was informed that on October 3rd, 2002 the planning commission
meeting will be held of the Supervisors of Elections Building.
A) BD-2002-AR-2416
Mr. Jeffrey Pusateri, requesting a boathouse protruding 17ft. into the waterway at 246
1st Street, further described as Lot 2, Block B, Little Hickory Shores Unit 1.
-Mr. Abemathy swore in all those testifying
-There were no public speakers and no members of the commission stated problems with
this item.
-Mr. Richardson made a motion to forward with the recommendation of approval BD-
2002-AR-2416, Mrs. Young seconded the motion, all were in favor the motion passed
unanimously.
B) BD-2002-AR-2564
Ben Nelson, of Nelson Marine Construction, representing Richard Bye, requesting a 28ft
extension for a boat dock facility protruding a total of 48ft. into the waterway for
property located at 267 3rd Street West, further described as Lot 22, Block G, Little
Hickory Shores Unit 3 Replat.
-Mr. Abemathy swore in all those testifying.
-There were no public speakers.
-Mr. Fry stated he noticed the suggestion was that they go from a 20ft-48ft extension into
the waterway and asked if it was normally done to more than double what is allowed?
-Staff's answer given was that each of these exstention petitions is examined on its own
merits according to the criteria given in the LDC. The exstention relates to the width of
the waterway, affects on navigation, etc.. according to the code criteria. In this particular
area this extension is about normal since the water is relatively shallow, the lots only use
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is to accommodate a boat dock, they have a principal use approved with no residents on
the property, so this is typical of a dock extension in that area.
-Mr. Adelstein stated that staff stated all the criteria were met favorably and in the
secondary criteria: "for a single family dock facility, whether or not the length of the
vessels or the vessel combinations described in the petition exceed 50% of the subject
property line waterfront footage", he stated that it seemed it exceeds 50%.
-Staff replied that it does and that staff's response to that issue was that, that criteria was
not applicable since these lots are unique because they are very narrow lots that only
apply to boat docks, and therefore they didn't feel it would be appropriate to apply that
criteria in these circumstances.
-Ray Bellows added that this has a conditional use that allows for the boat docks on the
smaller lots, which alleviates the requirements for some of these conditions in the boat
dock review process.
-Mr. Adelstein stated that due to this he understands that it will still pass but he would
like to have it stated accurately in the record, that it did not meet that criteria.
-Mr. Budd made a motion to forward with the recommendation of approval BD-2002-
AR-2564 including the staff stipulations, it was seconded by Mrs. Young, all were in
favor, the motion passed unanimously.
D) PUDZ-2001-AR-1331 R
-Mr. R. Bruce Anderson, of Young Van Assenderp, Varnadoe & Anderson, representing
Martin S. Adler, requesting a rezone from "A" Rural Agricultural to "PUD" to be known
as ASGM Business Center of Naples PUD for a Business Park on property located
approximately V4 mile south of Manatee Road on Collier Boulevard, the property site is
immediately south of the Prime Outlet Center in Section 10, Township 51 South, Range
26 East, Collier County, Florida, consisting of 40.88 (+or-) acres.
-Mr. Abernathy sworn in all those testifying.
-No disclosures or ex-party communications were reported.
-Mr. Bellows stated that the petitioner is requested to rezone the subject site from
agriculture to the PUD district, to be known as the ASGM Business Center of Naples
PUD. He used a visual to show the site. An Ariel photo was used to show the site was
undeveloped. The proposed 40 acre PUD is intended to be a business park as allowed for
in the GMP. The LDC provides criteria for business park zoning, however this is a PUD
with business park uses. 26.3 acres of the PUD will be dedicated for the business park
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uses, 7.93 acres will be for the preserve area. The Future Land Use map was used to
show the site. Mr. Bellows stated that the urban coastal fringe designation restricts
densities to 4 units per acre as a base density, and there is a subtract unit for being within
the traffic congestion zone. It also allows for the business park uses subject to the criteria
contained in the Future Land Use Element, that criteria that must be met and be
consistent with is on page 3 of the staff report. Some of the criteria Mr. Bellows pointed
out:
1) The PUD business park shall be permitted to include and up to 30% of the total
acreage for non-industrial uses. This limits secondary uses to a maximum of 30%.
The secondary uses are retail uses, which are found to be compatible with business
park uses.
2) The PUD sets forth all project access points shall be consistent with the Collier
County Access Management Policy. The master plan for this project is consistent
with this.
3) The PUD allows Permitted Primary and Secondary Uses that are consistent with the
FLUE and the "BP" Sub-district. He stated it is consistent with this.
4) The Business parks shall adopt standards for buffering, landscaping, open space,
signage, lighting, screening of outdoor storage, parking and access management.
This PUD provides standards which are consistent with the LDC and the applicant
will also discuss some revisions to the landscaping that staff has agreed to, this is
consistent with the LDC also.
5) The maximum additional acreage eligible to be utilized for a Business Park Sub-
District within the Urban-Mixed Use District is 500-acres exclusive of open space
and conservation areas. The subject site is 40.88 acres and this is the first project
submitted under this Sub-district.
-Mr. Bellows showed a copy of the PUD master plan. He stated that staff has determined
that this petition is consistent with the criteria for business parks and is consistent with
the GMP, the traffic impact statements submitted by the petitioner was reviewed by the
transportation department and no changes were recommended at this time. In regards to
compatibility, since the project a preserve area to the south and existing commercial retail
used to the north and provides a type B buffer 25fi wide or deep along the northern
boundary where it abuts the vacant residential; staff has determined that this would be
consistent and compatible with adjacent uses. Staff has not received letters or calls in
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opposition to this project. Staff is recommending that the CCPC forward this petition to
the BCC with the recommendation of approval.
-Mr. Abernathy asked, when you are unaware of what is going into a site, how do you
calculate traffic impact? Mr. Bellows replied that traffic impact statements looks at the
worst case scenario. There is a trip generation manual that spells out certain types of uses
and they are looking at the highest generating uses permitted in the PUD, they base it on
the build out of the project, the projected growth of the roadway, the level of service at
the time of build out, and they add the project traffic to that.
-Mr. Abemathy asked how many rooms the TIS anticipated the hotel would have or how
many rooms could they have? Mr. Bellows stated they are subject to the requirements of
the LDC, which at the time was 26 units per acre.
-Mr. Abernathy asked if the height limitation was 50fl? Mr. Bellows referred to the PUD
document under section 3.4, max. height of structures: 40ft except at architectural
features and non-structural buffering elements, which may be constructed at a maximum
height of 50ft. So the base roof line of the structure is 40ft and they are allowing for
architectural treatments to provide some design; 40ft/50ft. He added that if you look at
general permitted uses, there are some restrictions: essential services, water management
lakes, and community recreational facilities, which have a maximum height of 45ft.
-Mr. Abemathy stated he noticed that in Lawmetka they are pulling their maximum
height down from 50ft to 35ft and wanted to know if there was a different standard in
North Collier County versus East Collier County? In response My Bellows stated that
there is no overall requirement in the county to limit heights to a specific height, such as
in the City of Naples. Mr. Abernathy asked if they have that opportunity in the PUD
process and Mr. Bellows told him yes. Staff feels that this falls within the general uses
permitted in a business park. The heights listed in the PUD document are 40ft/50ft,
which would possible allow for a hotel to have five stories.
-Mr. Richardson asked how the presumed water management of 7+acres figured in to the
calculations of density on the hotel? His concern is conservation area being used to
"jack-up" the intensity on a property. Mr. Bellows stated that the county has allowed this
procedure in the past, that they can one time count preserve areas or water management
areas of the PUD, as long as they are not being used to calculate density of some other
kind. The county has allowed that use of their land, because it is part of their PUD and it
won't be used for other purposes for some other project later on and it still comprises the
overall project and can be used to calculate density in this case. If it is part of a tract of a
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hotel/motel, staff would allow them to calculate that. Mr. Richardson told him that the
fact remains that this piece of land is "un-buildable". Mr. Bellows believes the intent is
clear to apply the intensity towards the development tract that the hotel/motel will occur
on, if they don't plat it in such a way that the preserve or wetland areas are outside of that
tract, then they will not be allowed to calculate that towards gaining density/intensity
toward a hotel/motel. Mr. Richardson asked to see where the hotel/motel would be
located, on which tract. He was informed by Mr. Bellows that until a client comes in to
build a hotel/motel it is undetermined where it would be located, but anything designated
as primary or secondary uses could have a hotel/motel. He stated they could limit where
the hotel/motel could go and the size limit, if the commission so chose to do.
-Mr. Richardson and Mr. Abernathy stated that if no stipulations are made, then you
don't know what will come in the future and they would then be stuck with it.
-Mr. Richardson then clarified that the 7.93 acres could be used to increase the density on
anywhere they would choose to put this hotel. Mr. Bellows stated this was correct.
-Mr. Midney had concerns that they were saying "this would not excessively increase
traffic congestion", but it is in a traffic congestion zone. He asked what the threshold
would be where one would state that it would increase traffic congestion? Mr. Bellows
told him that the traffic element of the GMP spells out what would be deemed a
significant impact and that is 5% of the adopted level surface C volume. The traffic
account would take into consideration the smaller and larger projects of the site and they
also look at the overall traffic increases over time. Mr. Midney clarified that the
threshold would still be 5% of the total traffic, no matter what the size of the parcel. Mr.
Bellows stated this was correct.
-Mrs. Young then added that if they took advantage of some of the permitted secondary
uses they might have a problem with the traffic impact, particularly since other groups
are coming in. Mr. Bellows informed her that the traffic statement reflects all according
uses and that its intent is to capture worst case scenario. Mrs. Young still had concerns
over the large list of permitted uses over which they have no controls in the future. Mr.
Bellows stated that since this is a PUD the commissioners have the right to make
limitations and regulations and the petitioner has the right to agree or disagree. If they
would disagree then it would be the Boards decision as to how they want to proceed.
-Mr. Abernathy asked about alcoholic uses permitted here? Mr. Bellows told him that
they would have to list it as a night club or something similar; there are also cases were a
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restaurant could apply for an alcoholic license but their alcohol sales would have to be
less than food sales.
Bruce Anderson, on behalf of applicant, addresses some of the concerns the commission
has expressed.
1) Only 30% of the total project can be used for secondary uses, that is no more than 12
acres.
2) The uses that are listed in their PUD for the business park district mirror the uses that
are already allowed in the LDC for a straight business park-zoning district.
3) The traffic impact statement was based on a maximum of a 200-room hotel and they
are prepared to stipulate to that maximum. Also approval of this project does not in
anyway vest it from concurrency determinations which must be made at the time of
site development plan approval or building permitting issues, therefore if there are
traffic problems, then they will not be able to attain permits to go forward.
4) On the Northern Boundary, zone C-4 & RMF 16, allow a 75ft building height as a
matter of right. Within a 45ft building height, typically you will get three stories for
a commercial use such as a hotel.
-Mr. Abemathy asked what type of hotel they envision? Mr. Anderson stated they did
not know, that they may not even have one, at the present time there are no plans, but it is
a use allowed.
-Mr. Richardson asked if the preserved water management plan was intended to be used
in their intensity and density calculations. Mr. Anderson replied that if they need to use a
portion of the wetlands to achieve the maximum that they have just committed to of 200
units then yes they would. After clarification it was determined that with 200 rooms it
would not be necessary to use the calculations and Mr. Anderson doesn't believe they can
use it anywhere else on the property if they have to plat it as a separate conservation
easement.
-Mr. Wolfley clarified that they were committing to no more than 200 rooms would be
put in a hotel if one is put on the property. Mr. Anderson informed him that was correct.
-Mr. Richardson stated he does not feel that an area "like this" should have 75ft buildings
and if the developers are encouraging this, then he believes they should take a closer look
at this issue (RMF 16). He believes the scale is getting out of control for that area.
-Mr. Young asked if they could make a limit of 35ft for that area? Mr. Bellows stated
that they can recommend it with logic behind it, which in this case would be, that both
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this site and the adjacent site would allow for 75fl buildings, which is also an issue for
staff.
Wayne Arnold, with Grady/Minor Engineering, indicated that they have a 75ft
maximum and they are asking for a 40ft in height. He would like the commission to keep
in mind that this is a business park and that the economic development council of Collier
County is encouraging people to develop business parks, they have even said they can be
anywhere in the urban area. He also asked them to keep in mind, that although they are
limited to indoor uses, some of these businesses will include light manufacturing, storage,
and things of that nature which "reasonably" require a height of 40ft. He pointed out that
in the last three years they have seen at least two larger industrial areas be rezoned to
allow community shopping centers, etc.., and as the area develops these uses become
more beneficial to the community.
-Mr. Wolfley asked how tall the buildings are at the Prime Outlets? The answer was 1
story, about 25fi high. Mr. Wolfley asked them to keep in mind that the request is twice
as high as these buildings are. Mr. Arnold stated that when you add a story you will
come around 40ft.
-Mr. Richardson asked if they chose to add residential would they have to come back
before the commission? Mr. Arnold informed him that yes they would have to come
back and that they do not foresee changing the hotel into condominiums.
Mr. Arnold, moved on to inform the commission that they made provisions for three
categories of membership organizations: 8611 are business associations (more of an
office type scenario for business associations), 8621 which are professional membership
organizations, and 8631 which are labor union and organizations. He also discussed the
landscape buffering language has been revised to: "Landscape buffers shall be required as
shown on the Conceptual Master Plan, Exhibit "A". The Type "B" buffer adjacent to the
project's northern property boundary where abutting RMF-16(8) zoned property shall be
a minimum of 25fi in width and shall meet the vegetative height, opacity and landscape
standards for Type "B" buffers per Section 2.4.7.4 of the LDC." (This is a replacement
text of Section 2.9). He stated that staff is in support of this.
-Mr. Abernathy asked about the buffer preserve area to the south? Mr. Arnold showed
that the Silver Lakes Community Center falls in line with the back of their preserve, but
the 400ft wide strip carries forward along the entirety of the joint and common property
line, within this they can put limited uses but not residential uses, this was viewed as an
appropriate separation and buffer.
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-It was asked what was behind the Prime Outlets shopping center in the L-shaped portion
of the property? Mr. Arnold informed them that the L-shape was the RMF16 with a cap
of 8units/acre project on it. In this area it was sensitive to density so it was capped to
8units/acre. Mr. Arnold stated they were sensitive to this and made a provision for an
interconnect into that parcel as well as Prime Outlet.
-Mr. Fry asked what they intend to do with the Preserve area? Mr. Arnold stated that the
Master Plan was driven largely by the water management district review, (the EAC
recommended unanimous approval), who was concerned about the potential for saltwater
protrusion on this side of 951. They asked if it could be done without building lakes,
using the preserve area as part of the water management system. Mr. Arnold stated that
this is what they did and that they worked with water management to pick the best
vegetative sites on the property that made sense to combine with the conservation area to
the south and they set aside an 8acre preserve area in the middle of the site to
accommodate. The water will eventually be discharging out to Collier Blvd. The only
clearing that will be done there is for exotic removals.
-Mr. Abemathy asked if Dean Smith, who did the traffic analysis, used the 200unit hotel
model in the analysis? Mr. Arnold stated yes and that Mr. Smith worked with the
transportation unit on this model over the last 10months.
-There were no registered speakers.
-Mr. Budd made a motion to forward with a recommendation of approval PUDZ-2001-
AR- 1331 with the petitioner's stipulahon of a 200unit maximum hotel and the revised
buffering language that would substitute item 2.9 paragraph B. It was seconded by Mrs.
Young, all were in favor, the motion passed unanimously.
E) PUDA-2002-AR-2559 (AR)
-Dwight Nadeau of RWA, Inc., representing Waterways Joint Venture IV, requesting an
amendment to the Hibiscus Village PUD to revise Table ! to add development standards
to the multi-family land uses to facilitate the opportunity to subdivide lands in a multi-
family tract for fee simply conveyance. The subject property is located at 14625 Collier
Boulevard, in Section 34, Township 48 South, Range 26 East, Collier County, Florida,
consisting of 57.82 (+-) acres.
-Mr. Abemathy swore in all those testifying.
-There were no disclosures reported.
Ray Bellows, explained that the petitioner was requesting a minor amendment to the
PUD. He used a visualizer to show the subject site. The amendment allows for the
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petitioner to have development standards that would allow for the multi-family units
proposed to be constructed and sold. He referenced table l, attached to the staff report,
stating that the petitioner was requesting to put as a minimum 2,500 sq. ft. lot area with a
25ft lot width and a corner lot would be 35ft. The general purpose is to allow for the
multi-family units to be created and sold off. Staff would not allow them until the PUD
standards were amended, they will subsequently have a PSP and go through final platting
in order to accomplish this.
-Mr. Abernathy stated that the multi-family would not be multi-family anymore. Mr.
Bellows informed him that was correct.
-Mr. Fry asked what type of buildings these would then be?
Mr. Nadeau, representing Waterways Joint Venture, informed the commission that these
are 2-story attached single family homes, 4 unit and 6 unit buildings. The development
standards that were silent in this PUD created some procedural issues that were a concern
to staff therefore in order to proceed, they need this minor amendment. The amendment
allows for someone to purchase an attached single family unit, which by definition in the
PUD (in existence) that a townhouse is a multifamily development or product, but you
can also attain land along with it. Therefore the 2,500 sq.ft, lot area is associated with the
unit itself, as well as the required front and rear yards.
-Mr. Fry asked that they do not become a condominium association but a homeowners
association instead. Mr. Nadeau stated that was absolutely correct.
-Mr. Richardson asked what the maximum number of units per structure was? In
response Mr. Nadeau told him there are 4 & 6 unit buildings.
-Mr. Abernathy asked what the side yard setback was for? Mr. Nadeau stated it was for
end units to provide for building separation. (The interior units would have no side
yards, similar to a duplex).
-Mr. Richardson asked Majorie Student if this was an amendment or a PUD. She
informed him that it was an amendment, that a lot of times it is rezones from PUD to
PUD, but it is strictly an amendment.
-Mr. Adelstein wanted to know if they were going to have walls that would abut each
other. Mr. Nadeau stated he was unsure, that there are probably fire codes that units
would be separated with a fire wall. Mr. Adelstein's concern was how you would
actually deed the area? Mr. Nadeau stated that it would be similar to a duplex. Mr. Fry
stated that he lives in similar housing and that there are remedies for this situation.
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-Mr. Wolfley asked for the total # of units. Mr. Nadeau stated it was 231 units and no
more, there are no wetland impacts in this area, and there was no traffic study was
required. He added that during the completion of the construction on Collier Blvd 4-lane
they will move to 6 lanes.
-Mr. Richardson asked staff if concurrency issues would reply and they would still have a
"hook" on this. Mr. Bellows stated yes.
Public Speakers
1) John Wellekens, stated he lives across 951 & Vanderbilt Country Club. He stated
they have no objections to the proposal but requests the commission require some
additional buffering in the front of the development on 951, so that their area
maintains its residential character and there are no buildings right on the street. They
want to avoid what happened with the Britmey Bay Construction. They also would
like the developer to give prior notice and go over the proposals with the community.
-Mr. Fry asked if they currently knew what the buffering was and if they had a right to do
anything about it at this time, since it is presently an approved PUD. Majorie Student
informed him that the County has continually taken the position that when it is just an
amendment, that it could lead into other aspects of the PUD. Mr. Nadeau stated that the
front buffer is required to reserve 65ft of right of way for the 951 widening, they will
have a significant landscape burm that will be attractively maintained, he is not sure of
the distance from the property line to the first building but he would guess -100ft.
-Mrs. Young asked if he felt his plans for landscaping fit in with Mr. Wellekens'
suggestions? Mr. Nadeau replied that it would certainly exceed the suggestions. Mr.
Schmitt stated he felt the burm was going to be required more for sound than landscaping
issues and that it will be landscape 1st as a sound burm then decorated as a landscaping
item and it will be built according to the requirements from a sound perspective. Mr.
Nadeau said the developer was building it from a sound perspective, ascetic perspective,
and from a native vegetation perspective.
-Mr. Richardson asked if during site approval all of these things were taken into
consideration and the residents can feel comfortable that the County is considering their
concerns. Mr. Bellows stated that this was correct.
-Mr. Richardson asked for clarification that after the taking for the roadways if there was
still a 100ft. buffer from the buildings and the edge of the highway properties. Mr.
Nadeau stated that this would be his estimate. Mr. Bellows added that Mr. Garcia
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assured him that the plans for the improvement of Collier Blvd. call for the Landscape
median which also will provide a buffer across the road.
-Mr. Richardson and Mr. Schmitt pointed out that there is no procedure for the public
input in the review process. Mr. Nadeau will check with the developer to see if they
would be willing, in the spirit of neighborliness, to expose the plans on a voluntary basis.
He does not believe there will be any objection.
-Mrs. Young made a motion that to forward with a recommendation of approval PUDA-
2002-AR-2559 (RB) as provided for in the attached ordinance, it was seconded by Mr.
Adelstein, all were in favor, the motion passed unanimously.
A 15 minute recess was taken.
F) PUDZ-2002-AR-2098
Robert L. Duane, of Hole Montes, Inc., representing Benderson Development Company,
requesting a rezone from PUD to PUD Planned Unit Development known as Lawmetka
Plaza PUD for the purpose of readopting the Lawmetka Plaza Planned Unit Development
Ordinance No. 99-4, which was originally approved by the Collier County Board of
County Commissioners on January 26, 1999, for property located on the northwest comer
of Wiggins Pass Road and U.S. 41, in Section 16, Township 48 South, Range 25 East,
Collier County, Florida.
-Mr. Abemathy swore in all those testifying.
-There were no disclosures reported.
Mr. Bellows, informed the that this was a petition to re-adopt an ordinance that was
approved in "99" for the Lawmetka Plaza PUD. The petitioner went through a public
information meeting in December. The county attorney corrected that we have gone
beyond the re-adoption time. Mr. Bellows explained that during the public meeting there
were over 100 people in adoption, he made it known that even though they were going to
apply for re-adoption, it would not prevent staff from making any recommendations to
improve compatibility with the changes in the LDC. The staff and applicant have agreed
to repeal ordinance 99-4 and the previous ordinance and adopt the PUD submitted now
with the changes that staff has recommended to improve compatibility. The applicant has
agreed to this. He reviewed the activity center at Wiggins Pass and US 41, and stated
that in "99" staff felt it was compatible with adjacent uses and the buffering provided at
the time and they believe it was satisfactory for Tarpon Cove. Their was a lawsuit
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brought from some residents of Tarpon Cove alleging notice impropriety with regards to
the petition in "99". Staff and the petitioner felt that it was properly advertised.
-Majorie Student stated that we do not need to rehash the lawsuit in this forum, because
there are statements that could possibly be made that are not appropriate to be made in
this forum and could affect the lawsuit. She cautioned staff on discussing the lawsuit,
that today they are agreeing to look at this as a new PUD with some changes to make it
compatible, and she does not want to go into the lawsuit.
Mr. Bellows continued with his presentation. He stated that one of the changes in the
"99" adoption was the revised master plan. He showed the committee the master plan
before revisions and after. In "99" the flow-way in question has been relocated into a
new preserve area to the west which coincided with the preserve area of Tarpon Cove.
This opened another area, the concern is that a super-store would go in that would be
larger than what was originally going to be put in. In review process to the PUD
amendment, staff has come up with some conditions they would like to see incorporated
into the approval, noted in the staff report (page 5) and the petitioner has agreed to these.
He reviewed some of the major ones and why they were adjusted with the committee:
1) The intent of#1 was to alleviate the fears ofa superstore exceeding 100,00 or
200,00sq. ft being on the site.
2) Hotel and motel use will be deleted from Parcel "C".
3) The building height will be reduced from 50 -35ft on Parcel "C"; however,
architectural establishments may be constructed above 35 feet to a maximum height
of fifty feet.
4) All roof mounted mechanical equipment shall be enclosed or shielded by a visual and
noise absorbing barrier.
5) The development shall be designed so that glare from lighting shall not penetrate
adjoining properties. All fixtures shall be designed such that the actual lighting
element shall not be visible from adjoining properties. (A similar standard currently
exists in the PUD, which is replaced with the proposed language.)
6) For any use involving the placement of vehicles, including but not limited to parking
lots, internal circulation areas, and loading areas, adjacent to buffers areas, a
minimum of four feet tall opaque vegetative hedge shall be installed to eliminate
headlights shining into and across the buffer area.
7) Limitations on the following uses are incorporated into the PUD, some of which are
presently limited in the ordinance: Outside kennels, recycling activities, outdoor
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recreation facilities, flea markets, tattoo or massage parlors, bottle clubs, agricultural
services, fuel dealers, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, justice, public order, and
safety facilities, and communication towers above 100 feet MSL.
8) The previous limitation of 40,000 S.F. of building area in Parcel "C" has been
eliminated in favor of the overall limitation of 65,000 square feet of floor area for any
single business and the reduction to the maximum building height from 50ft to 35ft.
Mr. Bellows stated that he believes the petitioner has some design standards he would
like to incorporate into this discussion. He showed Parcel "C", the additional language is
to include a specified percentage of parking to be located behind the entire commercial
building or project. This will be waived if the US41 &Wiggins pass street frontages are
developed without parcels along the entireties street frontages, or if there are gaps, the
type "D" landscape buffer would be provided. That would be the visual screening and
would alleviate the need to put the parking behind the building, it would also be
something the residents of Tarpon Cove would be in favor of. The residents of Tarpon
Cove would like some other things to be addressed and they will explain these.
-Mr. Abernathy asked how long ago they received the residents lists. Mr. Bellows stated
that it was received a few days ago. He reviewed them:
1) For the northern property line of Parcel C, "shall maintain 15ft. landscape buffer
measured from the southem edge" - they want this increased to 30ft.
2) On the southern edge, a 6ft. high opaque wall is currently provided for in the PUD,
they want this to be at the southern edge of the Setback
3) They want "all traffic with deliveries shall not be permitted within 150ft of the
northern property line during the hours between 8pm and 6pm, during these
prohibited hours deliveries to areas not within the prohibited zone shall be permitted
so long as such traffic enters and exits from the southern entrance; signs shall be
posted as to the restricted hours and the approved entrances."
4) They want to add under uses permitted #9 retail or offices uses: "as of the effective
date of this ordinance the permitted uses are only in the C-3 district instead of in the
C-4"
-The document is from an attorney hired by the Property Owners Association.
Bruce Anderson, on behalf of the property owner, stated that since 1989 the County
Comprehensive plan has designated this property as an activity center where the full
range of commercial ranges is allowed. In 1998 a Commercial PUD was approved on
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this property and in "99" as part of a PUD sunset review process, the PUD amendment
was approved to bring this up to current LDC standards. In "99" the staff report stated,
"the buffering, setback, and architectural standards meet or exceed all requirements of the
LDC and are more restrictive than is allowed on adjacent commercial developments. The
current staff report states that the additional changes "will improve the compatibility of
the currently approved commercial and office uses within the existing Tarpon Cove
residential community." The "99" report also noted that the commercial uses allowed are
similar or more restrictive than that of adjacent properties. All of the statements of"99"
hold true to date. This PUD builds on the protections that were in the "99". If the
lawsuit is successful it would cause the zoning to revert back to the original PUD that
was approved in "90", that PUD was approved before Tarpon Cove development existed.
The point is that the same buffers and protections would not be provided as in this PUD.
The lawsuit has been on hold until they went through the process again with notification.
The petitioner wanted the same PUD that was approved in "99", but as a good neighbor
he has agreed to concessions of his neighbors. The most important the concession is the
limit to 65,000 sq. ft, it was done to answer objections ofa superstore. In "90" it was a
max of 300,000 and the "99"sq. ft. was a max of 275,000sq. ft. and neither had limitation
on the size of a single business. This concession represents a very substantial limitation
on what this activity center can develop. The petitioner has made a number of other
concessions that limit his development (listed above). One of the concession pertaining
to an opaque buffer wall shows how his client has gone the extra mile. He asks for a
recommendation of approval.
Public Speakers
1) Richard L. Graham, 954 Carrier Bend Cir #201, Vice President of Master Cove
Association. His main concern is to call the planning commission to keep the past in
mind. In "99" they had a meeting with Mr. Carter, after the okay of it, and they, he
wants to make sure the planning commission is aware of the things discussed and
"kind-a" agreed upon:
A) Wiggins pass was addressed and the 2-4lane expansion, the turn lane was agreed
to be down at the end of Wiggins Pass so it would not affect traffic
B) They discussed a traffic light at Tarpon Cove
C) They discussed the desire to widen a section of Wiggen's Pass, regardless of
when the entire road is widened
D) Fence -discussed previously
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E) Burm - discussed previously
F) Deliveries - discussed previously
G) Aesthetics of the building and the landscaping were to be equal to the
surrounding area
II) Closing and opening time - wants noise level to not rise
2) William Curci, 946 Carrier Bend #102, has been involved in this process for two
years. He feels the message for the notice of meeting was fairly innocuous, that it
stated they wanted to increase allowable square feet 15% & the height to 35ft. &
modify site plan. He didn't attend because it didn't seem that important and he stated
they have contested because there was more discussed in the meeting then the notice
stated. He wants a curfew on deliveries, because of the noise element (deliveries
restricted it from 8pm-6am). He submitted evidence that the petitioner agreed not to
this curfew but to the theory of a curfew. He read CDL 251 under conditional uses,
under C-3 zoning, 2.2.14.3 paragraph 7 section B and under C5, stating there is
mention of the delivery restrictions. He added that he would like to see the 6ft high
wall be changed to an 8ft. high wall, also to reduce noise reduction.
3) Ron Kulpa, 766 Wiggins Bay Drive, would like to "yield" his time to a resident of
Tarpon Cove. He basically agrees with the limit of 65,000 sq. ft and other than that
he has no problems.
4) Bill Adams, 785 Carrier Bend Cir #103, stated that because he is part of board of
directors of his community he has many contacts with the community and believes he
knows what they want. They bought these properties due to quality of life, ambiance
of the community, this is a family community and they would like to keep it this way.
He stated that three of his communities corner's were developed commercially, since
this is the last comer they would like to use it as a commercial mix that compliments
their quality of life and aesthetics. He added that when a driver comes into Naples at
this community, this is the fist comer he would see. He would like commercial
properties with some beauty to it not a mini-strip-mall.
5) Bonnie L. Karkut, 945 Carrick Bend Cir. #202, chairperson of Lawmetka, she stated
she is a part of a large group of concerned residents. They want the principal use of
tract C to be limited to C-3 zoning, a proper buffer on the northern side (6ft high
cement fence, in addition a 30ft wide landscaping on the northern side of this fence),
and they wanted 8pm-6am restriction on deliveries in this area. Increased traffic will
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make it difficult for all residents offWiggens Pass and she hopes the commission
will yield to these restrictions.
6) Camille Ricketts, 975 Tarpon Cove Drive #102, most of her concerns have been
addressed by previous speakers, particularly buffer zones.
7) Bill Wagener, 13105 Vanderbilt Dr., His comments were successfully answered.
8) Mrs. Marilyn J. Whitlow, 746 Mainsail PL, stated she enjoys Tarpon Cove very
much. She is concerned about noise & travel to and from Wiggens Pass. She wants
to state that this is a very unique area and she would like it to stay that way. She was
told by WCI that anything that goes into this area would be unique and probably
upscale retail shops.
9) Doug Fee, 921 Carrick Bend Cir #201, enjoys his community and he has the same
concerns stated by others about the impact of the commercial property. He is mainly
concerned with the Northern border, they are asking that they have 30ft buffer rather
than the 15ft staff recommended, (because they lose buffering within the ditch). He
also stated that in parcel D the preserve does provide a buffer, but it pushes all the
preserve to the E/W line and there are still units on the Northern line that would be
affected if there was no re-allocation of that buffer, he would like some more footage
on the Northern side. He also agrees with others who spoke on limitation of
deliveries on Parcel C from 8pm-6am. He has concerns with the traffic impact even
though it is permitted.
10) Mary-Lou Eaton, 654 Wiggins Lake Dr. #101, has concems about traffic congestion
on Gulf Harbor drive. She stated her concern is a large "box" store that will add to
traffic congestion, she is opposed to a move towards a four-lane highway here. She
hopes the developer would consider not one store with 65,000sq. ft. but several stores
that would add up to this.
11) BJ Savard-Boyer, 479 Palm Ct. & 965 Ta~rpon Cove Dr. #204, she wanted to
address the lessening of value in their homes. She stated 15ft or 30ft on either side of
water will not take away from the noise if there is nothing on the buffer. When she
bought her property she was informed by the developer that the comer would be a
one-story professional office park. She added that she had nothing in writing and had
not check the zoning. She agrees with Tarpon Cove that they need more of a buffer
from Parcel C, more than a 40ft wide debt and 15ft of trees on both sides.
12) Angela C. Moureau, 730 Tarpon Cove Dr. Unit 201, she requests the commission
consider and approve the changes to section 6 of the ordinance. She stated the
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community wants to preserve their way of life, and have peaceful and quiet
surroundings.
13) Terrence F. Lenick, attorney representing Bonnie Karkut and others from Tarpon
Cove, stated that things are not as Mr. Anderson leads you to believe there were
minimal changes from the "90" - "99" zoning and that this is not correct. He
explained that in the 1990 zoning they had what you call specialty commercial uses.
What happened was they went from an intensity of use from that area to C-3 & C-4,
there was a substantial change in the actual usage, this is what caused the lawsuit. He
stated would like to resolve the final issues:
1) His clients were concerned about the big box. He referred to page 11 of the
ordinance. He said what concerned him was "at the ground level" since this
would permit an increase of square footage in an establishment if you go to
another floor. He would like this phrase to come out.
2) Page 8 of the ordinance: He stated that the problem here is "allowed for
permitted retail and office uses". He wants to add "including retail and office
uses".
3) Stated that what currently exists in the ordinance is a 40ft. drainage easement, on
the north portion of the property, and a 70ft. setback. They propose to take the
vegetative buffer back, don't change the setback, and put the wall where the
buffer is at. He referred to the language in page 2 of the staff report, "owner
shall maintain a 30ft landscape buffer measured from the southern edge of the"
drainage easement and it stated a "minimum of 6ft in height shall be installed
within the buffer area at the southern most edge of the setback". They are only
asking for at the end of the setback, to put the wall there and have the 30fi of
buffer or at least to put the wall in that place.
4) He referenced the first page of the ordinance: that the section closest to
residential uses should be limited to C-3 uses and that it would be sufficient.
5) He referenced the last page of the ordinance: his suggestion is that for the area
closest to the residential they have no deliveries from 8pm-6am and signs. That
way both sides will get what they want when only that one portion is limited.
Mr. Anderson, stated that with regards to Mr. Lenick' s first two points, about the
270,000sq.ft. and the 65,000sq.ft., done. They will concede on these two items. With
regards to the others they can't, they have limited the square footage it tied there
hands to accommodate other changes. He asked the commission to keep in mind that
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up until 1999 PUD amendment, that anyone who bought in the Tarpon Cove project,
on the southern boundary ,only expected a 75ft setback with no extra buffering and a
50ft tall building and now they are getting the same setback, 15ft of landscaping
within that and a 35ft tall building. He stated the people bought knowing they were
buying next to a commercial PUD.
-Mr. Adelstein, Mr. Abemathy, and Mrs. Young asked if the delivery times could be
compromised. Mr. Anderson replied no.
-Mr. Wolfley asked if they have considered the road improvements, south of
Wiggens Pass and doing improvements on Wiggens Pass west of 417 Mr. Anderson
stated there are requirements in the PUD and all impact fees have been paid. Mr.
Bellows stated the transportation department will review what is being proposed
during the site development plan.
-The question was posed about the aesthetics of the zone. Mr. Anderson stated it at
the time they did not know what would go in but they have to follow the county's
architectural guidelines.
-Mr. Fry asked if they who they had in mind for tenants of the land. Mr. Anderson
replied that they don't have any tenets signed but they would hope for a grocery
store.
-Mr. Fry stated he understood the concerns of the residents with regards to the noise
of deliveries, but it is a commercial area, and the difficulty of balancing the rights of
both parties.
-Mr. Richardson asked if they wouldn't commit to a C-3 because they don't know
what will go in yet and are seeking flexibility. Mr. Anderson stated yes. Mr.
Richardson then asked about the hotel/motel use of Tract A, he asked if they had a
problem with limiting the size of the hotel/motel? Mr. Anderson said they would
limit to 130 units total on tract A.
-Mr. Abemathy asked if they were willing to yield on C-4 in Parcel C. Mr.
Abemathy stated no. He then asked what are the delivery time limits. Mr. Anderson
stated that it is unfettered, there are no county restrictions, but them are noise
regulations they must abide by.
-Mr. Schmitt stated for the record the only time there are specified noise periods are
when there is a request for a conditional use and that becomes part of a conditional
use.
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Mr. Budd made a motion to forward with a recommendation of approval the petition
PUDZ-2002-AR-2098 with the stipulation of the 130 limit maximum that Mr.
Anderson agreed to, a stipulation on item 5.6J that clarifies the 65,000sq.fi maximum
"eliminating at ground level", a stipulation of item 5.2 paragraph one, that the
270,000sq.ft. maximum for all uses, and a clarification of the location of the buffer
wall to be at the southern most edge of the northern property setback. It was
Seconded by Mrs. Young, all were in favor, the motion passed unanimously.
-Mr. Midney stated that he feels sympathetic to the residents, but it is on US41 in an
activity center.
IX.
Old Business:
Proposed CCPC policy regarding timely submittal of materials
-Majoric Student explained that she provided thc draft to them for their information, but
it should come back as an advertised public hearing matter.
-Mr. Fry stated hc was concerned that they have thc flexibility to do this and Majoric
informed him that they do and it is covered under paragraph C.
-Majoric Student added that under paragraph one they have to mcct a two week
requirement so she will add some clarifying language that references back to paragraph 3
as being an exception to that.
-Mr. Abcrnathy views paragraph three is the door that mischief can come out. Hc
questioned how they can get around some of the language.
-Majoric Student stated that it was put in is because it already appears in thc resolution
that governs procedures before the BCC and this body. She referenced page 3 of exhibit.
She stated thc mason they did thc policy was, if they chose to re-do the resolution that
could open things up and it was the opinion of thc county attorney to not re-do this
resolution and open it up.
-Mr. Fry clarified that as a general rule is that it is two weeks, and a five day period for
other circumstances, and if someone brought something thc day of thc meeting then thc
commission would have to decide if they want to accept it or not based on if it is capable
of being reviewed in that time.
-Mr. Abcrnathy told Majoric to go ahead and advertise it for October 3d, 2002.
New Business
-Mr. Abcrnathy stated that Mr. Anderson wrote thc commission a letter about density
blending and PUD's & TDR's. Mr. Anderson stated that this was intended as a courtesy
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was not for discussion. They wanted to explain why they felt the way they did, but he is
not trying to resurrect it. He stated it was scheduled to go before the BCC for the l0th.
He wanted to make a few practical points on proposed new rules of procedure: typically
staff report does not come out till a week before the hearing anyway so they do not have
the up-to-date information. And he added that with this, if they try to work something
out with staff, then they are likely to get continued.
-Mr. Abernathy agreed and stated that those are high expectations.
-Mr. Schmitt stated that they would have to make clear expectations of the petitioner and
it may have to be extended, because there is not enough time to process all the
information through the system.
-Mr. Anderson stated the public doesn't always know by the deadlines, because the
mailings are done 15days prior to the hearing.
-Mr. Abemathy added this may all become moot when they move to the hearing
examiner.
-Mrs. Young asked how the search for the hearing examiner was going. (Mr. Anderson
left the room).
-Mr. Fry stated in reference to the two weeks, it is good in an ideal world, but he thinks
they may be causing more problems, hurt the public, and not help themselves as much as
they think. -Mr. Adelstein stated originally they asked for 10 days and he feels this would
be enough. -Mrs. Young asked about reverting to 10days. -Majorie Student added to the
record that there were people on vacation when it was being coordinated, this gives a
chance to do that and bring it back on the first, but it does need to be advertised and a
public hearing. -Mr. Schmitt stated he has no problem with 10days or requiring this time.
-Mr. Fry wanted staff to come back with a proposal they think would work, what the
public expects, and what they feel we can handle. -Mr. Schmitt stated they will come
back with a time line.
-Mr. Adelstein addressed Mrs. Young's question about the hearing examiner. He stated
he believes there are four very competent applicants. He said there were 52 application
that varied widely. The overall process worked out well. The base responsibility has not
yet been defined. He believes if one or two of those candidates are not accepted that they
should be hired to the legal department.
Adjournment - the meeting adjourned at 12:lSpm.
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COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIVISION
PLANNING SERVICES DEPARTMENT
2800 NORTH HORSESHOE DRIVE
NAPLES, FL 34104
September 17, 2002
F. Jeffrey Pusateri
P.O. Box 1115
Bonita Springs, Fl. 34133
REFERENCE: BD-2002-AR-2416, Jeffrey Pusateri
Dear Mr. Pusateri:
On Thursday, September 5, 2002, the Collier County Planning
approved Petition No. BD-2002-AR-2416.
A copy of Resolution No. 02-6 is enclosed approving this use.
If you have any questions, please contact me at 403-2400.
Ross Goc~aur
RG/sp
Commission heard and
Enclosure
CC:
Land Dept. Property Appraiser
Minutes & Records (BD, PSP & PDI)
Customer Service
Addressing (Peggy Jarrell)
M. Ocheltree, Graphics
File
CCPC RESOLUTION NO. 02- 0 ~'
RELATING TO PETITION NUMBER BD-2002-AR-2416 FOR A
BOATHOUSE ON PROPERTY HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED IN
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS, the Legislature of the State of Florida in Chapter 125, Florida Statutes, has conferred on all
counties in Florida the power to establish, coordinate and enforce zoning and such business regulations as are
necessary for the protection of the public; and
WHEREAS, the County pursuant thereto has adopted a Land Development Code (LDC) (Ordinance
91-102, as amended) which establishes regulations for the zoning of particular geographic divisions of the
County, among which are provisions for granting approval for boathouses; and
WHEREAS, the Collier County Planning Commission (CCPC), being duly appointed, has held a
properly noticed public heating and considered the advisability of a 14-foot by 17-foot boathouse allowed by
LDC 2.6.21. to authorize a 14-foot byl7-foot boathouse in an "RMF-6" zone for the property hereinafter
described; and
WHEREAS, the CCPC has found as a matter of fact that satisfactory provision and arrangemefit have
been made concerning all applicable matters required by LDC Section 2.6.21.; and
WHEREAS, the CCPC has given all interested parties the opportunity to be heard, and considered all
matters presented.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY the Collier County Planning Commission of Collie:
County, Florida, that:
Petition Number BD-2002-AR-2416, filed on behalf of F. Jeffrey Pusateri, for the property hereinafte
described as:
Lot 2, Block B, Little Hickory Shores, Unit 1, as described in Plat Book 3, Page 6, of the
Public Records of Collier County, Florida,
be, and the same is hereby approved for, a 14-foot byl7-foot boathouse otherwise allowed by LDC 2.6.21., t
authorize a 14-foot by 17-foot boathouse in the RMF-6 zoning district wherein said property is located, subjec
to the following conditions:
1. Before Collier County will issue a permit to construct the approved boathouse, corresponding permits,
letters of exemption, from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Florida Department
Environmental Protection must be provided.
2. In order to protect manatees, at least one (1) "Manatee Area" sign must be posted in a conspicuo~
manner as close as possible to the furthest protrusion of the dock into the waterway.
3. All prohibited exotic species, as such term may now or hereinafter be established in the LDC, must l
removed from the subject property prior to issuance of the required certificate of completion and
property must be maintained free from all prohibited exotic species in perpetuity.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Resolution be recorded in the minutes of this Commission and
filed with the County Clerk's Office.
This Resolution adopted after motion, second and majority vote.
Done this day of ,2002.
ATTEST:
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDj~-~----.~
Joseph K. Schmitt
Community Development and Environmental
Services Administrator
~ ii,and Legal Sufficiency:
l~atrick G. Wl~iie'
Assistant County Attorney
BD-2002-AR-2416/RG/lo
COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIVISION
PLANNING SERVICES DEPARTMENT
2800 NORTH HORSESHOE DRIVE
NAPLES, FL 34104
September 17, 2002
Nelson Marine Construction
Ben Nelson
10530 Wilson Street
Bonita Springs, Fl. 34135
REFERENCE: BD-2002-AR-2564, Ben Nelson
Dear Mr. Nelson: fi,,
On Thursday, September ,,,l~, 2002, the
approved Petition No. BD-2002-AR-256.
Collier County Planning
A copy of Resolution No. 05 is enclosed approving this use.
If you have any questions, please contact me at 403-2400.
Sincerely~
Ross Gochen~
Commission heard and
Enclosure
CC:
Richard L. & Linda M. Bye, Trs, 27581 Hacienda East Blvd #328A, Bonita Springs, Fl.
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CCPC RESOLUTION NO. 02- D,-5'
RELATING TO PETITION NUMBER BD-2002-AR-2564 FOR AN
EXTENSION OF A BOAT DOCK ON PROPERTY HEREINAFTER
DESCRIBED IN COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA.
WHEREAS, the Legislature of the State of Florida in Chapter 125, Florida Statutes, has conferred on all
counties in Florida the power to establish, coordinate and enforce zoning and such business regulations as are
necessary for the protection of the public; and
WHEREAS, the County pursuant thereto has adopted a Land Development Code (LDC) (Ordinance
91-102, as amended) which establishes regulations for the zoning of particular geographic divisions of the
County, among which are provisions for granting extensions for boat docks; and
WHEREAS, the Collier County Planning Commission (CCPC), being duly appointed, has held a
properly noticed public hearing and considered the advisability of a 28-foot extension for a boat dock from the
20-foot length allowed by LDC Section 2.6.21. to authorize a 48-foot boat dock facility in an "RSF-4" zone for
the property hereinafter described; and
WHEREAS, the CCPC has found as a matter of fact that satisfactory provision and arrangement have
been made concerning all applicable matters required by LDC Section 2.6.21.; and
WHEREAS, the CCPC has given all interested parties the opportunity to be heard, and considered all
matters presented.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY the Collier County Planning Commission of Collier
County, Florida, that:
Petition Number BD-2002-AR-2564, filed on behalf of Richard L and Linda M. Bye Trs. by Nelson
Marine Construction, for the property hereinafter described as:
Lot 22, Block G, Little Hickory Shores Unit 3 Replat, as described in Plat Book 6, Page 2, of the Public
Records of Collier County, Florida, be, and the same is hereby approved for, a 28-foot extension of a
boat dock from the 20-foot length otherwise allowed by LDC Section 2.6.21., to authorize a 48-foot
boat docking facility in the "RSF-4" zoning district wherein said property is located, subject to the
following conditions:
1. Before Collier County will issue a permit to construct the approved extension, corresponding permits, or
letters of exemption, from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Florida Department of
Environmental Protection must be provided.
2. Prior to final approval of this dock extension, reflectors and house numbers of no less than four (4)
inches in height must be installed at the outermost end on both sides of all docks or mooring pilings,
whichever protrudes the furthest into the waterway.
3. In order to protect manatees, at least one (1) "Manatee Area" sign must be posted in a conspicuous
manner as close as possible to the furthest protrusion of the dock into the waterway.
4. All prohibited exotic species, as such term may now or hereinafter be established in the LDC, must be
removed from the subject property prior to issuance of the required certificate of completion and the
property must be maintained free from all prohibited exotic species in perpetuity.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this Resolution be recorded in the minutes of this Commission and
filed with the County Clerk's Office.
This Resolution adopted after motion, second and majority vote.
Done this day of ,2002.
ATTEST:
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
Joseph K. Schmitt
Community Development and Environmental
Services Administrator
~Approve~ as~tg, Form and Legal Sufficiency:
Pah'ick G. ~9'hite
Assistant County Attorney
BD-2002-AR-2564/RG/lo