Minutes 10/28/2014 (unsigned) CLAM BAY COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28,2014
The Clam Bay Committee of the Pelican Bay Services Division met Tuesday, October 28at
1:00 PM at the Community Center at Pelican Bay located at 8960 Hammock Oak Drive,Naples,
Florida, 34108. The following members attended:
Clam Bay Committee
Susan O'Brien, Chairman Ken Dawson
Joe Chicurel Mike Levy
Tom Cravens
Pelican Bay Services Division Board Henry Bachman
Dave Trecker ex-officio
Pelican Bay Services Division Staff
Neil Dorrill, Administrator Mary McCaughtry, Operations Analyst
Marion Bolick, Operations Manager Lisa Resnick, Recording Secretary
Also Present
Mohamed Dabees, P.E., Ph.D., Humiston&Moore Engineers
Tim Hall, Principal, Turrell-Hall &Associates
Arielle Poulos, Turrell-Hall &Associates
Clam Bay Stakeholders Jim Hoppensteadt, Pelican Bay Foundation
Charles Bodo, Pelican Bay Foundation Mary Johnson, Pelican Bay Foundation
Gary Canino, Pelican Bay Foundation Robert Pendergrass, Pelican Bay Foundation
Brad Cornell, Audubon Ted Raia
Marcia Cravens Linda Roth
Annice Gregerson Kathy Worley, Conservancy of Southwest Florida
REVISED AGENDA
1. Roll call
2. Agenda approval
3. Audience comments
4. Suggested edits for the Clam Bay NRPA Management Plan
5. Approval of March 18,April 8, April 24, May 14, and June 11 minutes
6. Update on 10-year dredging permit application
7. Update on water quality data in STORET water quality monitoring
8. New sampling sites starting in January
9. Alternative lab for copper
10. Clam bay monitoring services
a. Scope of services
b. Conflict of interest provision
11. Clam Bay tidal range data from May 2013 to present
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12. 12-month post dredging report
13. Foundation's involvement in dredging discussion
14.Next meeting
15. Adjourn
ROLL CALL
All Committee members were in attendance.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr. Levy seconded to approve the agenda as amended. [Add item 13.
Foundation's involvement in dredging; transpose items 4 and 5; and allow Ms. Johnson to
address some issues when she arrived]. The agenda was approved as amended unanimously.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Discussion was briefly held with a member of the audience regarding the BCC's
comments on the plan at their last meeting regarding the permit application and the Management
Plan, and their interdependency, if any. Ms. O'Brien indicated that this had been done.
Ms. Kathy Worley and Ms. Linda Roth expressed their desire to provide input for the
Plan as well.
Ms. Mary Johnson noted that the Foundation had expressed their support for the
Management Plan that had previously been submitted, and expressed her concern with the
subsequent, significant revisions to the Plan, noting that the Conservancy cannot support them.
Ms. Marcia Cravens stated that the County Commission had expressed the fact that the
updated Management Plan would be the guiding document and would be essential to include in
permit applications. She also expressed her concerns with the Plan as it presently stands.
Mr. Ken Dawson felt that the BCC Board was happy with the Plan that was presented,
and was simply looking for some adjustments to it.
Mr. Henry Bachman and Mr. Charles Bodo from the Foundation agreed with Ms.
Johnson's comments about the changes that have been made, and asked that her opinions be
honored.
SUGGESTED EDITS FOR THE CLAM BAY NRPA MANAGEMENT PLAN
Ms. O'Brien opened this discussion with one of the two issues the BCC had asked the
Committee to concentrate on, that being the ecological considerations. She noted that Appendix
5 was authored by Dr. Dabees, and should have his name on it, printed as provided in his PDF
file.
The correct language regarding the ecological conditions was discussed, and it was
suggested that a separate section be wordsmithed in the dredging chapter dealing with them to
highlight their importance.
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Mr. Tim Hall suggested that there are areas that need to be rewritten that would allow
some slight impacts for the overall health of the system.
Ms. Worley felt that the Plan should be about monitoring the entire system, rather than
focusing on dredging.
Mr. Hall felt that the ecological criteria should be determining the types of activities to be
undertaken and their scope.
Dr. Dabees added that the criteria that is now available allows action to be taken
proactively as opposed to retroactively.
After further discussion on these ideas and how to balance all of these important issues in
the Plan, the Commission agreed that Mr. Hall and Ms. Worley would meet within the next week
to reach an agreement on the specific wording to be used to cover both fresh water and
ecological considerations, taking the suggestions of the Stakeholders into consideration as well.
The Committee will meet the following week to go over the new wording. The
objectives will remain the same as opposed to a few word changes, but the flow charts will be
eliminated.
UPDATE ON 10-YEAR DREDGING PERMIT APPLICATION
All the data has been gathered for this, and the construction drawings are the final thing
needed. Dr. Dabees will provide them to Mr. Dorrill in the near future, and they will be shared
with the Foundation engineer prior to the scheduled November 6 meeting. It is anticipated that
the Application will be completed for submission before the Thanksgiving holiday.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 18,APRIL 8,APRIL 24, MAY 14 AND JUNE 11 MINUTES
The minutes of March 18, April 8, April 24 and May 14 were approved at the September
meeting after changes were made. A MOTION was made by Mr. Cravens to approve the
above mentioned minutes as amended. After a brief discussion, it was agreed that the
Committee would wait until the complete amended minutes were provided to them before they
voted on their final approval.
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr. Levy seconded to approve the June 11 meeting minutes as
amended. [Change Mr. Cravens to Dr. Trecker as distributing handouts; change $7,000 to
$70,0001. The June 11 minutes were approved as amended unanimously.
WATER QUALITY DATA IN STORET WATER QUALITY MONITORING UPDATE
Mr. Hall advised those present that the DEP was satisfied with all the submitted
information and is currently writing the amendments to the program, which should take another
month to six weeks. Mr. Hall will input the present data into STORET.
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NEW SAMPLING SITES STARTING IN JANUARY
The new site sampling program is set to move forward as scheduled in January. The data
backup for previously completed sampling will be provided to the DEP as requested.
Two new reporting stations along the berm were briefly discussed and what the costs
would be for the collections.
Mr. Levy motioned,Mr. Cravens seconded to recommend to the full Board that two new sites
for water collection be added along the berm at Stations 6 and 8, effective in January. The
motion carried unanimously.
ALTERNATIVE LAB FOR COPPER
Mr. Hall will explore some alternative labs for copper testing and their costs and advise
the Committee.
CLAM BAY MONITORING SERVICES
Handouts were provided to the Committee on the monitoring being done by Turrell, Hall
and other Clam Bay related expenditures. This contract expires April.
Ms. O'Brien asked for feedback on the Conflict of Interest Provision, and felt that a
procedure should be in place to advise the Board of any other work Mr. Hall may be doing for
any other entity as they go through the RFP process.
Mr. Dorrill will check with the purchasing director to see if there is already a policy in
place that addresses this issue, and will advise the Committee.
CLAM BAY TIDAL RANGE DATA FROM MAY 2013 TO PRESENT
This information continues to be collected on a regular basis, and Ms. O'Brien asked Mr.
Dorrill if those numbers could be provided to them on a quarterly or monthly basis. Mr. Dorrill
will see that this is done along with the water quality information that is being provided.
Dr. Trecker motioned,Dr. Chicurel seconded to adjourn. The motion carried unanimously
and meeting adjourned at 3:26 p.m.
Susan O'Brien, Chairman 1/20/2015 9:57:19 AM