Minutes 09/24/2014 (unsigned) CLAM BAY COMMITTEE
PELICAN BAY SERVICES DIVISION
SEPTEMBER 24, 2014 MEETING MINUTES
The Clam Bay Committee of the Pelican Bay Services Division met on Wednesday, September
24, 2014 at 2:00 p.m. at the Community Center at Pelican Bay, 8960 Hammock Oak Drive,
Naples, Florida. The following members attended:
Clam Bay Committee Board
Susan O'Brien, Chairman(participated by phone) Ken Dawson
Tom Cravens Michael Levy
Joe Chicurel Dave Trecker, ex officio
Pelican Bay Services Division Staff
Neil Dorrill, Administrator Mary McCaughtry, Operations Analyst
Marion Bolick, Operations Manager Lisa Jacob, Recording Secretary
Also Present
Tim Hall, Turrell,Hall &Associates, Inc.
Marcia Cravens
REVISED APPROVED AGENDA
1. Roll Call
2. Agenda Approval
3. Audience Comments
4. Approval of March 18, April 8, April 24 and May 14 Minutes
5. Update on Clam Bay NRPA Management Plan
6. Updates on Nationwide Permit application
7. Timeline for preparation of 10 year permit application
8. Additional copper sampling, stations, and estimated costs/Clam Bay copper
9. Suggested edits for RFP for Clam Bay related services
10. Clam Bay tidal range data from May 2013 to August 2014
11. Other
12. Next Meeting
13. Adjournment
ROLL CALL
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With the exception of Chairman O'Brien who participated by phone, all members were
present and a quorum was established.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Mr. Cravens motioned, Mr. Levy seconded to approve the agenda as amended with
the addition of a discussion of Clam Bay Copper under Item 8. The motion carried
unanimously.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
No comments were received from the audience.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 18 MEETING MINUTES
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr. Levy seconded to approve the Minutes from March 18
with the agreement that the Motion makers will be identified in future minutes;
under Draft of Article for the Pelican Bay Post the first sentence should end with
"Ms. O'Brien" and the remainder should be deleted, and under Estimated Costs
and Funding, the fourth line from the end should read "Mr. Hall agreed that his
costs...". The motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF APRIL 8 MEETING MINUTES
Mr. Cravens motioned,Mr. Levy seconded to approve the Minutes from April 8
with the correction throughout the minutes of Mr. Hall's name; on Page 2 under
Suggested Language, it should be noted that Kathy Worley previously provided the
information to the Chair, and on line 3,the word "title" should be "tidal"; on Page
3,the sentence beginning"The necessity of collecting for both symmetry.." should
read "systemetry". The motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF APRIL 24 MEEING MINUTES
Mr. Cravens motioned, Mr. Levy seconded to approve the Minutes from April 24,
with the deletion of Mr. Hall, Mrs. Cravens, Ms.Worley and Ms.Johnson's names
from the first page as they were not in attendance, and the addition of Mr. Noble's
name; under Agenda Approval,Mr. Levy suggested that an update be given rather
than Mr. Cravens; on Page 2 under Discussion of Goal and Objectives, the first
sentence should read "Ms. Poulos and Mr. Hall edited the Goal and Objectives"; on
the last page under Update on Moorings Bay Citizens Advisory Committee, the last
three words in the first sentence should read "if there is". The motion carried
unanimously.
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APPROVAL OF MAY 14 MEETING MINUTES
Mr. Cravens motioned, Mr. Levy seconded to approve the Minutes from May 14,
with the insertion of Dr. Trecker under appearances as ex officio, and the phrase
"and others" should be included under Clam Bay Stakeholders appearing; on Page
2, at the beginning of the sixth paragraph, after the words "what she felt", the
words "that the 1998 plan focused on the mangroves..." should be added, and five
lines below that, the Committee was referred to the "Clam Pass Inlet Management
Plan"; the speaker in the last paragraph was Brad Cornell from Audubon,who
should also be included in the Stakeholders designation and in the fourth line of that
paragraph the phrase "sea level life" should read "sea level rise", and the last
sentence should indicate that it was Mr. Cornell who suggested that Mr. Hall should
craft that language to insert in the plan; on Page 3,the resident in the second
paragraph should be noted as Ted Raia; four lines below that, in the sentence
regarding the subsurface flow into the Bay,the next line should read, "which they
have less detailed information on" and in the last paragraph, the representative of
Collier County should be noted as Maura Krause of Collier County Parks and
Recreation,who should also be included under the Stakeholders designation; four
lines further down from that,the word "Natural" should be inserted before the
words "Resource Department"; and on the second line from the bottom, after the
words "since 1990", the words "sea turtles" should be added. At the very end,the
sentence should read that Mr. Hall will coordinate in these areas with the County.
Ms. Cravens asked that the minutes indicate that Ms. Krause had noted that the
technical reports were written by the Collier County Natural Resources
Department staff in the 1980s, and that she thought they should be included in the
Management Plan references. The motion carried unanimously.
UPDATE ON CLAM BAY NRPA MANAGEMENT PLAN
The updated draft of the Executive Summary was discussed by the Committee, and the
changes that were made were at the County Manager's request at a meeting with their senior
environmental staff. Mr. Dorrill advised that the County staff does not necessarily want to
modify the approved plan, but they do wish the BCC to receive their recommendations. He
added that he is hopeful that the BCC will approve the plan as part of the hearing on this matter,
and it will be at their discretion whether they accept the recommendations made by County staff
for incorporation into the approved plan.
Mr. Cravens motioned, Dr. Trecker seconded that the Clam Bay Committee would
incorporate the recommendations made by County staff into the water quality
section of the Clam Bay NRPA Management Plan for review and approval by the
full Board at the October 1 meeting. The motion carried unanimously.
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Mr. Cravens motioned, Dr. Trecker seconded to amend the existing motion to
direct Mr. Hall to include language reflecting that Clam Pass is a mixed use
waterway. The motion carried unanimously.
UPDATES ON NATIONWIDE PERMIT APPLICATION
Mr. Hall provided a summary to the Committee of the permit application, which included
a way to go forward with a letter of permission to allow Clam Pass to be re-opened should it
close before the permit application review is completed, without withdrawing the ten year
application. Mr. Hall continues to anticipate that Federal approval of the permit will take 12 to
15 months.
UPDATE FOR TIMELINE OF TEN YEAR PERMIT
Mr. Hall is moving ahead with the ten year permit, and authorization has been received
for the survey. A pre-application meeting will be held with the Corps of Engineers the following
week to address the components the Corps wishes to see with the initial permit application.
Once that application is made to the agency, then expediting the timeframe can be looked at.
The County has authorized this work and once a PO is opened in the new fiscal year, the
mechanism will be in place to fund this work. Once the survey is completed and the application
is put together, it is expected that it will be ready for the Board's review at the November
meeting. A copy of it will be provided to the Foundation Board ahead of time for their
comments as well.
ADDITIONAL COPPER SAMPLING, STATIONS,AND ESTIMATED COSTS
Mr. Hall provided an overview of where the nine stations would be located and the
estimated costs. The reasoning for changing site locations was also explained.
Dr. Trecker motioned, Mr. Cravens seconded that the recommendation be made to
the full Board that the changes to the Clam Bay water quality sampling locations
as presented by Mr. Hall be accepted. The motion carried unanimously.
A letter of modification will be requested to maintain the flushing cuts as the sampling
stations are shown on it and the new locations will have to be noted. Assuming that the Board
approves these new sites, Mr. Hall will incorporate that information into the Management Plan.
Ms. Cravens (Sierra Club) registered concerns about the new sampling sites.
CLAM BAY COPPER
Dr. Trecker provided the Committee members with a listing of average copper
levels in Clam Bay broken into upper, middle and lower areas including 2011 through 2014 to
date. These numbers show no significant reduction of copper levels in Clam Bay since the first
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DEP measurements taken years ago, but there is a slight downward trend in upper Clam Bay.
The 2014 numbers show a slight downward trend in middle Clam Bay. The Committee briefly
discussed the possibilities of using another lab that can calculate values under 3.0.
SUGGESTED EDITS FOR RFP FOR CLAM BAY RELATED SERVICES
Mr. Hall indicated that under scope of services, biological monitoring should be
expanded to include faunal monitoring which would include all of the vegetative communities
along with the mangroves. If it is determined that the collection and analysis of water samples
will have to be outsourced, that should be included as well. The kinds of biological monitoring
that will be needed will determine what vendor is selected, and Mr. Hall suggested that the Clam
Bay Committee be as specific as possible with present and possible future monitoring needs in
the RFP, including the water quality aspects. Mr. Hall will provide a comprehensive list of the
things he feels should be included.
CLAM BAY TIDAL RANGE DATA FROM MAY 2013 TO AUGUST 2014
Mr. Hall will obtain this information from Dr. Dabees and provide to the Committee as
soon as it is available.
NEXT MEETING DATE
The next meeting was scheduled for Tuesday, October 28 at 1:00 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Cravens motioned, Dr. Trecker seconded to adjourn the meeting at 4:13 p.m.
The motion carried unanimously.
Susan O'Brien, Chairman 4/22/2015 10:32:06 AM
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