Minutes 03/18/2014 PELICAN BAY SERVICES DIVISION
CLAM BAY COMMITTEE
MARCH 18, 2014
The Clam Bay Committee of the Pelican Bay Services Division met on Tuesday, March 18, 2014,
at 1:00 p.m. the Community Center at Pelican Bay, 8960 Hammock Oak Drive, Naples, Florida.
APPEARANCES Susan O'Brien, Chairman
Tom Cravens
John Domenie
Michael Levy
ALSO PRESENT Neil Dorrill, Dorrill Management,Administrator
Tim Hall, Turrell, Hall &Associates, Inc.
CLAM BAY STAKEHOLDERS Marcia Cravens
Kathy Worley
Mary Johnson
Peter Duggan
Linda Roth
Annice Gregerson
ROLL CALL/AGENDA APPROVAL
All members with the exception of Mr. Chicurel were in attendance. It was determined that
there was a quorum.
A MOTION was made and seconded to approve the Agenda.
It was suggested that the Committee receive their agenda packets in a timelier manner due to
the large volume of items to be reviewed before the meeting.
After a brief discussion, it was agreed that certain items will be tabled until the next meeting.
The Agenda was then unanimously approved as amended.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
It was noted that the agenda was overly ambitious considering the number of important issues
being discussed and the volume of attached material.
Mrs.Johnson indicated that it appeared that the bulk of the attached material was previously
gone over, and that she had no problem with the agenda.
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APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY 4th MEETING MINUTES
The February 4th meeting minutes were unanimously approved on a MOTION and a second.
DISCUSSION OF MANAGEMENT PLAN'S GOAL AND OBJECTIVES
The Committee had been provided with the original Management Plan's goal and objectives as
well as that done by Mrs. Worley for comparison and ultimately to make decisions on.
The goal and objectives were gone through for consistency of language with attention to
several items, such as the protection of the NRVA and its relation to the use of the word
estuary, the support and distinctions as it relates to passive recreation, and the timing of bird
surveys. This discussion will be continued to the next meeting to give the Committee members
additional time to study the information provided to them.
DISCUSSION OF REVISIONS TO CHAPTERS 1 THROUGH 4,APPENDICES AND BIBLIOGRAPHY
The Committee went through these chapters with attention to substantive changes as it relates
to consistency and correctness of language and intent. Smaller changes and corrections will be
submitted to Mr. Hall.
TIMING OF MEETING MATERIAL DISTRIBUTION
Mrs. O'Brien asked Mr. Dorrill if the material for the meetings could be provided to the
Committee members on the Thursday before the following week's meeting by 5:00 p.m. to give
them ample time to study the information. Mr. Dorrill agreed that the request was more than
reasonable.
SUGGESTED TIMELINE FOR MANAGEMENT PLAN AND PERMIT APPLICATION
It was suggested that the latest draft for the Plan be available for stakeholders and put on the
website by May 1, with a workshop to follow on May 13. Final comments will be requested
from the stakeholders by May 16.
POSSIBLE NEW REPORTS/ACTIVITES FOR FY 2015
The Committee discussed the use of volunteer organizations and grants to help reduce the
costs of surveys, which vary in methods and costs. This discussion will be readdressed at a
subsequent meeting.
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DRAFT OF ARTICLE FOR PELICAN BAY POST
The Committee members made a few changes in the article prepared by Mrs. O'Brien.
FURTHER DISCUSSION RE: SUGGESTED TIMELINE AND PERMIT APPLICATION
As it relates to the suggested timeline, in response to Mrs. O'Brien's question as to whether the
Commission can start the application process for the 10 year dredging permit, Mr. Hall
indicated that it can certainly be started, although more data is definitely needed. It was
pointed out that it may be premature to start the process, but Mr. Hall indicated that it will not
be completed until the County Commission approves the Management Plan, which will give
them time to adjust and make changes to it.
ESTIMATED COSTS AND FUNDING SOURCE FOR PERMIT APPLICATION AND RELATED WORK
Mr. Dorrill reported that the costs from Humiston & Moore for engineering and the associated
exhibits and meetings would be$32,500, and this estimate from them will be provided to the
Committee. Mr. Dorrill will be meeting with the County Manager the following Friday to
discuss tourist taxes or county wide property taxes being utilized to cover these costs.
Mr. Hall agreed that his cost would be in that neighborhood, possibly as much as$40,000.
The bathymetric surveys cost from $13,000 to$26,000, and the cost for an initial bathymetric
survey on the interconnecting waterways will be obtained as well. It is hoped that the
engineering costs going forward will be covered by 195 or 111 money.
OTHER INFORMATION
Mr. Hall advised that the manufacturer has agreed to replace all the trail marker poles they had
originally sent as they were bad, and they are covering the contractor's costs as well. The
county is paying for the additional wrapping.
Mr. Williams from County Parks and Recreation will be appearing before the Committee in the
near future to present his master plan concepts for Clam Bay Park. Several modification
suggestions were made previously to Mr. Williams to incorporate into his plans.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 3:15 p.m.on a MOTION and a second.
Susan O'Brien, Chairman Printed 11/12/2014 at 9:08:39 AM