PARAB Minutes 09/16/1998 0
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
Minutes
September 16, 1998
Max Hasse Community Park
3520 Golden Gate Boulevard, Naples, Florida
PRESENT: Joseph Zaks, Chairperson
Timothy Blackford
Karin English
John Grice
Edward "Ski" Olesky
Gil Mueller
ABSENT: Daphnie Bercher,Vice Chairperson
ALSO PRESENT: Marla Ramsey,Director
Murdo Smith,Recreation Manager
John Dunnuck, Operations Coordinator
Jacquie Hart, Secretary II
John Good,Promoter
Dave Williams,Vice President of MIACC
Ed Ferreira,President of MIACC
Jacque Barr,Executive Secretary
Butch Morgan,Member& Homeowners Association
I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 2:15 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
III. INVOCATION: by Jacquie Hart
Iv. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: August 19, 1998 meeting.
• Correction to the August 19, 1998 Minutes: Page 4
paragraph E - Chairman Zaks stated that the County just gave away
the park to the City of Marco Island without any consideration of the best
interest of the citizens.
Motion by Timothy Blackford to approve August 19, 1998
minutes. Passed 6/0.
V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS
a. Addition to the Agenda - Ms. Ramsey added Mr. John Good of
Marine Industries Association of Collier County to the agenda.
b. Boat Show - Mr. John Good stated he is a Promoter for the Marine
Industries Association of Collier County. The Marine Industries
Association also owns the Naples Boat Show. Mr. Good has been in the
boat show business for over 20 years. Their organization would like to
use Sugden Regional Park for this year's show.
Mr. Good met with Tom 011iff and Marla Ramsey regarding the
possibilities of what could be done at Sugden Regional Park. Mr. Good
would like to negotiate a contract with the County and the Marine
Industries Association.
The event will consist of showcase boats, and boat accessories display;
however, items will not be for sale. Mr. Good stated that these are
primary local business with companies that sell fishing rods and boats.
The show also will feature awareness education and food vendors. Mr.
Good's goal is to have seminars and to educate people on boating safety.
Mr. Olesky inquired as to who will provide insurance.
Mr. Good stated that the Marine Industries Association of Collier County
will provide insurance. Mr. Good stated that the vendors also have to
provide insurance and this is one of the reasons why volunteers are not
used because of the liability involved.
Ms. Ramsey stated that one of the issues that needs to be discussed is the
boat show gate fee. Ms. Ramsey stated that the County will have to be a
cosponsor instead of having a rental agreement.
The boat show will utilize approximately half the park and a barricade
would be installed around the boat show area. The other half of the park
would be available to the general public.
Ms. Ramsey stated that one of the reasons why this discussion has taken
place is to set precedence as to how future events will be handled at
Sugden Regional Park.
Ms. Ramsey stated that if PARAB agrees to recommend this type of event,
then staff will workout the details such as how the park will be divided,
transporting people, and where the gate will be located.
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Mr. Good reemphasized that the Marine Industries Association will be
responsible for all expenses including any damages to the park facility and
maintenance.
Mr. Olesky inquired if staff could work with the Marine Industries
Association and bring some figures to the next meeting.
Mr. Good stated that time is limited. Mr. Good stated that he has rented
the Lee County Civic Center for a 4 day show, which he pays a flat rate of
$10,000. The Lee County Civic Center fees also includes personnel and
maintenance expenses. Mr. Good had a show at the Collier County Fair
Grounds and the Marine Industries Association was charged a $6,000
rental fee.
Motion by Gil Mueller to accept this project with respect that staff
monitor it closely. Seconded by Karin English. Passed 6/0.
c. Beach Parking Stickers - Ms. Ramsey distributed the executive
summary showing different options. Staff would like to recommend
option#2.
Option #1: To allow anyone who has a Collier County license plate to
park for free. Option #2: To have the tax collector give a sticker when
issuing a license plate. The stickers will be provided by the Parks and
Recreation budget.
Staff time has been spent issuing beach parking permit. Originally
employees were hired as Program Leaders responsible for programs at the
parks but too much time is spent issuing permits and less time is spent
planning programs.
In the budget process staff requested 1 full time position and 2 part time
employees to help alleviate that problem. In exchange a$5 processing fee
would be charged to generate revenue to justify these positions but the
County Administrator is asking that staff research other options for Board
consideration.
Mr. Blackford stated that his concern about this issue is that many Collier
County residents pay the meter fees while attending the beach. Since they
may not have the time to get a beach sticker, providing stickers to these
patrons will reduce revenue.
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Mr. Mueller indicated that he had done some research and found out that
people who work in Collier County and live in Bonita or Lee County have
their vehicles registered in Collier County.
Mr. Grice inquired if Parks and Recreation could designate one particular
location to issue beach parking permits with additional staff and time
scheduled.
Mr. Smith stated that this is a great idea but an example would be Veterans
Community Park who issue 20,000 beach stickers for this fiscal year. This
would create a problem to have one location.
Ms. Ramsey will continue to provide the City of Marco with beach
parking stickers to be issued to residents.
Chairman Zaks suggested that staff add an amendment to the executive
summary. A letter would be attached to the executive summary showing
that the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board recommends that the beach
parking meter fee be raised to $4.00 and hire personnel to handle issuance
of parking stickers. This would cost far less than the risk of losing the
revenue.
Motion by Chairman Zaks to raise beach parking fee to $4.00 per
person and not institute a $5.00 processing fee. Seconded by Tim
Blackford. Passed 6/0.
d. Food Grant Status - Mr. Thomas reported that the Summer Food
Program was a success again this summer. During the summer there were
15 food program sites. The Parks and Recreation Department served
49,596 breakfasts, 65,673 lunches, and 3,765 snacks. The total
reimbursement of the program is $235,439.38 which doubled last years
total.
e. Fee Policy Status - Mr. Smith stated that staff proposes an amendment
to the Fee Policy. The marketing fee has been eliminated.
There has been a change in the percentage the County charges to contract
instructors and what the County receives in revenue from programs. The
contract Instructors currently receive 70% and the County received 30%
revenue programs class. The proposed amendment will change the
percentage to 65% (instructor) - 35% (the Collier County) split at County
facilities.
Fees for Marco Racquet Center will be eliminated from the Fee Policy.
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The fees for the Golden Gate Fitness Center will be raised once this new
facility is open. The daily fee will be raised by $1.00, 3 months permit
fees are $10.00, and the annual permit fees will be raised $40.00 which
will include swimming at the pool.
The corporate membership discount will be reduced by 10%to 20%off.
Motion by Tim Blackford to approve the Fee Policy as proposed.
Seconded by John Grice. Passed 6/0.
IX. Old Business
a. Impact Fee Policy Status - Mr. Dunnuck stated that he finally got
all the information finalized for the Impact Fees. The Impact Fee Policy
will be presented before the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board in
October.
b. City of Marco Island/Frank Mackle Community Park - Mr.
Mueller read a letter and expressed that he was upset with the removal of
equipment from Frank Mackle Community Park and the Racquet Center.
The letter will be attached to the minute and be in the record.
It was an arbitrary decision made by the Parks and Recreation Department
and their immediate superior, it was unfair to the City of Marco, and the
City of Marco was not properly informed prior to the removal.
Furthermore, some removals took place in a devious and crafty manner. I
refer to the $3,000 ice machine at the Racquet Center. It would seem to
me that in the interest of mutual responsibility that there should have been
some preliminary negotiations take place.
This activity has created further tension between the City and County, and
has very much alarmed a number of County Commissioners.
It is Unfortunate..."
c. Landfill Options Status - The conceptual plans will go before the
Board of County Commissioners on October 6, 1998.
X. Monthly Report
d. July Monthly Report- No Discussion.
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e. BCC Recap - On the Board of County Commission recaps there was
an item requesting to serve soft drinks and snacks at the Vanderbilt Beach
Concession. The Board authorized this request on September 8, 1998.
f. Regional Park Land - The Department has located 175 acres on
Livingston Road. The cost is $37,500 per acre which is a total of $6
million dollars. The purchase is being negotiated. The property is at a
good location.
g. Golden Gate Fitness Expansion - The project has started.
According to schedule the Fitness Center will be completed by February 1,
1999.
h. Ordinance 89-11 - Mr. Grice inquired on page E-14 why the proposed
ordinance specifies a specific (situated within the north and south
geographic boundaries) boundary.
Ms. Ramsey stated that there are some vendors that use the beach access
which is about 4 feet wide. Ms. Ramsey stated that in order to do business
the vendor needs to be in front of the agency that they have their contract
with.
Mr. Grice stated that when you put such limitations it defeats the purpose.
i. PARAB Meeting Schedule - Next meeting is scheduled at the
Immokalee Administration Office.
j. Adopt-A-Park Report - Mr. Olesky visited the Immokalee Sports
Complex and found the following items needing repairs:
• Lights needs to be replaced under the canopy in the main lobby.
• 2 parking lights are not working at main entrance.
• The carpet needs to be cleaned in the front lobby.
• There is no lighting along the walkway, along the fence, to soccer
field, between the pool.
• Staff needs to look into the installation of motion detector lighting.
Dream Land Park:
• Graffiti needs to be painted because it is still showing.
• The water cooler leaks.
• Remove trash on basketball court.
• The grass is growing in the sand.
• Playground equipment is missing parts.
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• Lake Trafford Park - The gate needs to be repaired. Mr. Olesky
closes gate once in a while. Mr. Olesky stated that by closing the
gates, 90% of the crimes are stopped.
• Immokalee Community Park - All the trash was picked up. It looks
good. There are some dead hedges that need to be replanted. There
are minor repairs that need to be taken care of in the building. The
wood on the bike rack needs to be replaced. The water spigot by the
hand ball court needs to be fixed. The baseball field looks good, but
there is one light out by the first base dugout. The walkway lights are
all out. Basketball court finish is wore needs to be resurface., in the
middle. The middle hoop needs to be tightened on the second
basketball court. Drinking fountains water is hot.
Mr. Smith stated all chilled water coolers have been removed from
Immokalee due to continuous vandalism.
Ms. Ramsey and Mr. Smith stated that staff will address these problems.
Vineyard Community Park - Mr. Blackford visited the Vineyards
Community Park and everything looks great.
Ms. Ramsey stated that she was not pleased with how the water park is
working. Staff will meet with contractors to repair the water park
Chairman Zaks stated that there is an area where the surface is coming out.
Clam Pass Park - Mr. Blackford also visited Clam Pass. The tram
dropped people at the lot and proceed to pick up the Registry Hotels guests
instead of the general public. Mr. Blackford understands that one tram
was to pick up hotel guests and one is supposed to pick up the public. This
is not happening!
Ms. Ramsey will have a talk with Jerry Thirion.
Veteran Community Park - Chairman Zaks notice some pot holes at the
side of the rink.
Staff will look into the matter.
VIII.ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Chairman Zaks to adjourn. Meeting adjourned at 4:30
P.M.. Passed 6/0.