PARAB Minutes 11/27/1996 AM
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES
November 27, 1996
Golden Gate Community Park
3300 Santa Barbara Boulevard, Naples, Florida
PRESENT: Joseph Zaks, Chairman
Gil Mueller
Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Gayle L. Stan
Timothy Blackford, Vice Chairman
Elaine Wicks
ABSENT:
ALSO PRESENT: Skip Camp, Acting Director,
Department of Parks & Recreation
Murdo Smith, Operations Manager
Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent
Jacquie Hart, Secretary II
I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 2:10 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
III. INVOCATION: by Max A. Hasse, Jr.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: October 23, 1996 meeting.
Correction to minutes of October 23: On page 8, paragraph 6
Christine is spelled incorrectly; correct spelling should read
Kristine.
Motion by Gil Mueller seconded by Max Hasse. Passed 6/0.
V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS
a. Marco YMCA Pool - A discussion took place regarding the
Marco YMCA Pool. The Marco YMCA is requesting $70,000 from
the County to help with the expenses of maintaining the
operation of their pool.
The County staff met with the Marco YMCA to inquire what
will be given in return for the $70,000. A number of ideas
were suggested in terms of programs but some things were
off limits to the County such as the fitness center, the
gym however, was semi negotiable.
Mr. Camp stated that the County would have access to use
the pool during certain times.
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Chairman Zaks stated that there are no substance to the
proposal.
Mr. Mueller stated that the Marco YMCA did come before
PARAB some time ago and he had strongly advised against the
proposal. Mr. Mueller also stated that one of the reason
is that the Marco YMCA Board has a turnover which is
unbelievable.
Mr. Blackford stated that the proposal is not specific
enough for him to support at this time.
Motion by Tim Blackford that PARAB require very specific
information on how and when County residents would be able
to use the pool and at what charge before PARAB can
consider the proposal. Seconded by Max A. Hasse Jr.
Passed 6/0.
b. Beach and Water Ordinance - a brief discussion took place
regarding amending the Beach and Water Ordinance #89-11.
Chairman Zaks stated that paragraph 6b of Ordinance #89-11
is to vague. No suggestion were made.
Motion by Tim Blackford to recommend that the Board of
County Commission adopt the Ordinance #89-11. Seconded by
Gayle Stan. Passed 6/0.
c. Capital Projects Update - Mr. Camp stated that he would
provide PARAB in January, 1997 an update on a month to
month basis on Capital Projects.
Mr. Camp updated PARAB with reference to the Florida
Community Trust Grant P2000. A letter was received stating
the grant status. The grant was based on a point system
and the Departments ranking was discussed.
A meeting was held with the Parks and Recreation
Department Consultant to review grant and the points given
to the department. The Department is submitting additional
information to hopefully gain 7 additional points.
Mr. Camp stated that an RFP for a Grant Writer was proposed
a year ago. He did research regarding the Grant Writer and
found that the proposal included $267,000 to write a single
grant. Mr. Camp stated that he found a person who would
write an average grant for approximately $3,000.
Mr. Camp stated that the Parks and Recreation Department is
going before BCC to reject the Grant Writer RFP (Stan
Hemphill) .
VI. REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC REPORTS/UPDATES
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a. Immokalee Community Center Landscaping Update - Mr. Camp
stated that he visited all the Park sites when he first
started with the Parks and Recreation Department. The
Pelican Bay Community Park had approximately $3,000 worth
of sod damage.
Mr. Camp stated that he held a meeting with the Department
staff and told the staff to take ownership of the facility
even if it's not part of their duty.
In Immokalee the sprinkler system was not working and the
grass was dead. Mr. Camp stated that the department have
taken care of the problems and some improvements has been
made.
Mr. Mueller stated that the Parks and Recreation
Department's budget has been cut and the department can
only do so much. Mr. Mueller stated that Marco Island
facilities look great.
Mr. Camp stated that he realized that the Maintenance
Department maintain several neighborhood parks which are
just mow and go jobs. Mr. Camp is suggesting that these
neighborhood parks be contracted to private firms and use
the maintenance crews to do high profile community parks.
b. Bluebill Property - Mr. Mueller stated that he read in the
newspaper that the Bluebill property might be developed
into a parking lot. Mr. Mueller is inquiring an update
regarding the Bluebill property.
Mr. Camp commented that from his understanding Wiggins Pass
State Park may have a concern regarding parking at the
Bluebill Property.
c. Beach Parking Program Report - Mr. Mueller stated that he
has some concerns regarding the letter addressed to Mr.
Neil Dorrill by Mr. 011iff.
Chairman Zaks suggested that Mr. Mueller write a letter to
Mr. Tom 011iff regarding that issue.
d. News Paper Article Re: Gary Franco - Mr. Blackford read a
letter to the editor of the Naples Daily News into the
record regarding a boyscout planting and watering landscape
material at the Aaron Lutz Park. Attached in the letter to
the editor.
Mr. Hasse suggested that the Parks Department send a letter
out to the youngman.
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e. Dogs in the Park/Leash Law - Mr. Camp stated that a
correction to the letter needs to be made, staff did check
other Parks Departments regarding whether if dogs are
allowed in the parks.
Mr. Franco stated that the Park in Orlando does allow dogs
in the park. A Park in Sarasota that is a Beach Park
allows dog in the park.
Mr. Mueller stated that he respects Ms. Armstrong's
request, however he sees a problem with this issue.
Mr. Blackford stated that his concern is for the safety of
the people in the park. The parks are for the community
and the people deserve to feel safe.
Ms. Wicks inquired if a dog were to bite someone in the
park, who would be held liable?
Mr. Camp stated that since the park is County property the
County will be held liable.
PARAB suggested staff to invite Ms. Armstrong to the
December 18, 1996 meeting and at that time a recommendation
will be made.
f. Sugden Regional Park Update - Mr. Camp stated that a
meeting was held with residents of the community.
Approximately 25 people attended. Staff listened to their
concerns and Mr. Camp will address them within 10 days.
Mr. Camp will check with all staff to get accurate
information, and will forward this information to the
community after the Thanksgiving weekend.
Mr. Camp stated that he will also forward a copy to PARAB.
g. Marco Tennis Fees - Mr. Smith wrote a letter for Mr.
Mueller signature thanking Ms. Rehati for her presentation
to PARAB.
VII. UPDATE/REPORT
a. Parks Adoption Report - Mr. Hasse visited Max Hasse Jr. ,
Community Park and the park is in excellent shape. The
main entrance toilet did not have any paper towels.
Mr. Hasse requested that something be done regarding the
soil getting in the playground area.
Golden Gate Community Center is doing good. John Dunnuck
just got an approval from BCC to install a playground.
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Mrs. Stan stated that Ms. Elaine Ritchie called the Golden
Gate Gazette and requested that a pay phone be install at
the Max A. Hasse Jr. , Community Park.
Gayle Stan stated that Cocohatchee River Park landscaping
is completed and Barefoot Beach is in good condition at
this time.
b. Snowfest - Snowfest will be held December 7, 1996. VIP
passes and Snowfest T-shirt were handed out.
c. PARAB meeting Schedule - PARAB decided to have a meeting on
December 18, 1996. Next meeting will be held at the Golden
Gate Community Park Administration office.
d. PARAB Vacant Position - Chairman Zaks inquired whether any
advertising has been done regarding the PARAB Immokalee
representative.
Mr. Camp stated that the Department will do whatever it
takes to get the issue resolve.
Mr. Mueller stated that on November 19, the Board of County
Commission gave their final seal of approval to the Marco
Island Tennis Court construction. The contract has been
awarded.
e. Cocohatchee River Park Concession - Mr. Camp reported that
a relative of one of the associates that was removed drove
through the front of the concession stand.
The person was charged with a number of violations and is
now in jail. There is extensive damage to the building.
f. Mr. Mueller reported that the concessionaire at Tigertail
Beach is still not issuing receipts.
g. October Monthly Report - Mr. Blackford inquired why the
beach visitor number is down this year.
Mr. Franco stated that Tigertail and Barefoot Beach were
the only two beaches that were in operation last year at
this time in regard to collection of fees.
Mr. Mueller inquired if there is any reason why the
citations prior to July were not included in the report.
VIII. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 4:10 p.m. Motion by Max A. Hasse.
Seconded by Timothy Blackford. Passed 6/0.
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