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PARAB Minutes 10/23/1996 4 PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES October 23, 1996 East Naples Community Park 3500 Thomasson Drive, Naples, Florida PRESENT: Joseph Zaks, Chairman Gil Mueller Max A. Hasse, Jr. Gayle L. Stan Timothy Blackford, Vice Chairman Elaine Wicks ABSENT: ALSO PRESENT: Skip Camp, Acting Director, Department of Parks & Recreation Murdo Smith, Operations Manager Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent Jacquie Hart, Secretary II George Parker, Senior Project Manager, OCPM George Fogg, President of IBIS Dale Schwegel, of Southwest Frisbee Disc Association John Gursoy, President of Gulf Coast Skimmers Jeffrey Street, of Gulf Coast Skimmers Peter Foy, of International Fantasy Fire Butch Morgan, East Naples Resident (33 East Naples residents also present) Jeff Shenk Johann Giraldo I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 2:10 p.m. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG III. INVOCATION: by Max A. Hasse, Jr. IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: September 25, 1996 meeting. Motion by Gil Mueller seconded by Elaine Wicks. Passed 6/0. V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS a. Frisbee Disc Golf - Dale Schwegel of Southwest Frisbee Disc Golf Association presented the concept of Frisbee Disc Golf, he would like to see a facility in Collier County. Mr. Franco introduced Mr. Skip Camp who is the Acting Director for Parks and Recreation Department. b. Sugden Regional Park (Revised) Master Plan - Mr. George Parker of OCPM stated that there has been some changes to the master plan for Sugden Regional Park. The changes 1 4M includes relocation of the Gulf Coast Skimmers from one side of Sugden Park to the other. Another change was the architecture of the building. Instead of having the usual community center building with concession stand and meeting rooms a smaller pod type buildings would be built. A separate building will be constructed for life guards and rangers. Mr. Parker stated that there are 3 fishing piers. In addition there will be a green space area for informal non organized play, and several shaded picnic areas throughout the park. Mr. Parker stated that the beach area which was selected before was not economically feasible to construct a 6 ft. deep beach. Mr. George Fogg briefly describe how the beach is sloped and the landscaping of the area. The deeper area of the beach will be roped off. Chairman Zaks inquired what the plans are in terms of what Sugden Regional Park is going to look like upon completion. ; Mr. Parker stated that there will be a 20 foot buffer planted around the entire Park. The natural area will remain the same. Landscaping will be planted along the fence line on Outer Drive. Mr. Parker stated that phase one money will include a buffer. Speaker #1 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Richard McCormick stated that for years the community had to deal with problems such as drugs, motorcycle gangs, four wheelers, and everything going on during weekends. The community constructed a fence which stopped some of the problems. Mr. McCormick stated that they are now coming from the South end since the park has been cleared. Mr. Franco stated that perphaps an off duty Deputy can be housed on the site which will alleviate Mr. McCormick's concerns. Speaker #2 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Joe Kraft stated that he has lived near the lake for 25 years and had to chase away people from there. Mr. Kraft stated that it does not do any good to call the Sheriff Department. Mr. Kraft would like to point out 4 concerns: Point 1. The beauty of the island is that it will make an ideal picnic area (the area was pointed out on map) . If the barrier is removed and everything is exposed to the lake the Department will ruin the natural state of the lake. 2 0 Mr. Parker stated that in that case the area can remain the same. Point 2. Mr. Kraft; Another point he presented to the County Commission earlier was that the pedestrian gate is supposed to be for emergencies only and not maintenance. The gate is suppose to be locked at all times unless there is an emergency. Point 3. The other point is to plant the buffer as the exotics are removed. Point 4. Mr. Kraft suggested that the buildings be put together (pointed out on map) . Speaker #3 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Bob Co. . . who lives on Outer Drive would like to know for the Fantasy Fireworks how the parking issues will be addressed. Chairman Zaks stated that Mr. Peter Foy of Fantasy Fire will address those concerns. Speaker #4 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Butch Morgan stated that the comment that a "1600 seat stadium minimizes the effects on adjacent properties" is contradicting itself. Mr. Morgan stated that the department is not taking the neighborhood into consideration whatsoever. Mr. Morgan stated that all the concerns discussed at the Board of County Commission have not been address. Mr. Morgan stated that nobody from the community has been asked to provide any information or input into any of this planning. Mr. Morgan quoted Mr. Zaks that he was "against additional parking spaces and thinks that it should remain at 350. The idea of this park is to keep it in its natural state and not turn it into Coney Island. " Mr. Morgan quoting Chairman Zaks stating that "Mr. Boucher should meet with the neighbor who have concerns. " which never happen. Mr. Morgan stated that he requested a 10 foot fence from their property with an additional 20 foot opening. The fencing that was installed for the fireworks show, "could have been handle differently. " Mr. Morgan stated that after raising all the concerns about noise, pollution, etc. quoted from the Board of County Commission meeting that, Commissioner Hancock, "My staff will contact whoever your community liaison person will be from your neighborhood" which never happened. Mr. Morgan quoted Commissioner Mac'Kei "We want you to be in a loop" so what is being said is that the staff is being directed to work with the community. Mr. Morgan stated that to him 3 it seems as though someone is not listening to their boss. Mr. Morgan stated that he has ask for meetings and did not get them. Mr. Morgan stated that a meeting was suppose to be scheduled to discuss the buffer zone, and it never happened before the fence went up. Mr. Morgan quoted Chairman Norris, "The last thing we want to do is interfere with your neighborhood. We want to do want whatever we can to try to protect your neighborhood. " Mr. Morgan stated that Tom 011iff suggested that meetings between the County and community take place and nothing ever happened. Mr. Morgan states that, Chairman Norris said, "Thank you we understand your concern in this case our staff has clearly gotten directions. We are going to work with you and try to make sure that whatever you need is going to be provided. " Mr. Morgan said "We are getting the Skimmers shove down our throat. " Mr. Morgan stated that the problem is that the parking lot will be 20 feet from his property line which is not satisfactory. Mr. Mueller inquired whether Mr. Morgan suggested that the Commissioners attend their community meetings to voice their concerns. Mr. Morgan stated that at this point they will take every approach necessary. Chairman Zaks inquired how many permanent parking spaces is there on the plan. Mr. Parker stated that there were 710 including overflow grass parking. Chairman Zaks stated that if he is not mistaken, the Parks Department did hold a meeting with the community. Mr. Franco stated that the staff is willing to have a meeting whenever the community is ready. Chairman Zaks suggested that Mr. Morgan get with the staff to schedule a meeting and he will also attend the meeting. Speaker #5 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Charlie Stephenson stated that there is not enough green area around the lake. Mr. Stephenson stated that 700 parking space means 1500 people will create a large impact on the neighborhood; the noise, pollution, and everything that's involved. 4 Mr. Stephenson stated that the Skimmers have an open agreement that they can do just about whatever they want. The Skimmers are allowed to have as many shows as they want at any time during the week. Mr. Stephenson requested that this project not be approved unless the community is aware of it because there are a lot of concerns. Ms. Wicks stated that the last site plan that was reviewed showed the North side being phase 2 and now with the revised site plan you can not really distinguish what is going to be included in phase 1. Mr. Parker stated that by June of 97 the beach area, parking lot, and the landscaping will be built in. Mr. Mueller stated that it is extremely important that the community come before PARAB to discuss and keep the board abreast of what is happening. Mr. Blackford would like to know where PARAB stands today in terms of County Commission approval of Sugden Regional Park. Mr. Camp stated that there has been some changes in administration and apologized for any inconvenience about not getting a meeting with the neighborhood. Mr. Camp stated that he will advise the board in writing of the procedures that have been discussed, what needs to be done to keep PARAB better advised of any kind of changes, and the process for the approval of changes. Mr. Blackford stated that PARAB is feeling the same frustration that the community is, because the site plan for the park has been changed without consulting PARAB. Mr. Camp stated that he will make sure PARAB is aware of any major changes regarding projects. Speaker #5 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Rollie Flontek states that he agrees with Charles Stephenson and Butch Morgan's concerns. What really bothered Mr. Flontek is that the County Commission makes promises and did not keep them. Mr. Camp stated that he will provide the residents with the exact process of how projects are approved and will inform the resident of when the Sugden Regional Park project will go before BCC. c. School Transportation - Mr. Smith stated that the agreement is still being reviewed and will be discussed at later date. 5 4' d. Gulf Coast Skimmers Rules & Regulations Update - (a copy of the lease was included in the PARAB packet) Chairman Zaks would like to know what the County's relationship is with the Gulf Coast Skimmers. Chairman Zaks stated that according to the lease, like any landlord and tenant there is not much to say about what goes on inside the organization. Chairman Zaks stated that after reviewing the lease there are some things that he would have done differently. Chairman Zaks stated that according to the lease the the County does not have any control over the Skimmers day to day activities. Mr. Mueller would like to know who designed the lease agreement and gave the input as what needs to be included. Mr. Mueller also stated that he repeatedly commented to the effect that PARAB wanted to be certain that the Parks and Recreation Department has almost total control of the facility and PARAB has voiced that opinion. Mr. Camp stated that at the direction of PARAB he would be happy to go back to the County Attorney's Office and find out what the options are. Mrs. Stan stated that the Parks and Recreation Department has fees established for not-for-profit and profitable groups and rent 3000 square feet for $30.00 per hour but the Skimmers are using a facility which is more than 30 acres for about $10.00 a year. Mr. Franco stated that the Sugden Regional Park is a County Park and the Gulf Coast Skimmers are the County's tenant and it is run like a County Park, if its not clear then the department will clarify. Mr. Mueller inquired whether PARAB reviewed the Lease agreement before it was signed? The Secretary will double check the records. Mr. Mueller stated that he would have personally objected to the agreement if he had seen the lease. A detail discussion took place regarding the Gulf Coast Skimmers Rules, Regulation, and their operations. Chairman Zaks suggested that PARAB submit a written comment regarding the lease to be included in the packet. 6 471; 410 Chairman Zaks stated that he understands that a number of people are here to discuss the Gulf Coast Skimmers operation. The legal position of the Parks and Recreation Department is somewhat limited and that is not what this board is for. Chairman Zaks stated that some months ago Marco Island residents voice their concerns about jet skis, PARAB listen, but the Parks and Recreation Department does not regulate jet skis. Chairman Zaks stated that PARAB will not dive into the right or wrong of the way the Skimmers operations is being run. Chairman Zaks stated that PARAB will listen to any concerns. Mrs. Stan inquired if the Department can check with the County Attorney Office to see if any Civil Right Laws are being broken. Mr. Camp stated that he did contact the County Attorney's Office and they suggested that the Parks and Recreation Department stay out of the operation as it relates to some rules and regulations. Mr. Camp stated that he did contact some large organizations (e.g. Disney World & McDonalds) to check what their by-laws were on their dress codes and both had the same dress code policy in regards to their hair and earrings. Mr. Camp stated that if he can receive all of PARAB comments within the next two weeks he will submit them to the County Attorney's Office. All of those concerns will be addressed by the next board meeting. A question from the audience was ask regarding the process of bid for the concession stand at the Sugden Regional Park. Chairman Zaks stated that the Gulf Coast Skimmers can run the concessions and use the funds for their private purpose. A question was asked regarding to whether if anyone can rent or use the stadium. Mr. Camp will look into the matter. Robb Stan stated that he is appalled to how the Parks and Recreation sweeped the Gulf Coast Skimmers's issue under the table. Mr. Stan stated that he contacted Gary Franco with numerous complaints regarding the Skimmers. This issue was also brought up to Mr. Brinkman's attention. 7 Mr. Franco stated that the department did address the issue and had written response. Mr. 011iff also sent written response. Mr. Stan stated that it was not satisfactory. Mr. Stan would like for the PARAB to know that the Gulf Cost Skimmers has a good concept. Mr. Camp will meet with Mr. Stan on Friday to hear his concerns. Johann Giraldo who was a member of the Gulf Coast Skimmers expressed his concerns and frustration about the Skimmers. Mr. Giraldo was suspended for having his hair past his eyebrows and below his ears. Chairman Zaks stated that he once had long hair but he knew that some day he would have to cut his hair if he was going to be hired in an organization. Jeff Shenk submitted a letter voicing his concerns and why he was suspended from the Gulf Coast Skimmers Water Ski Team. Ms. Christine Miller who is 11 years old was a member of the Gulf Coast Skimmers for about 3 years and in mid May she was suspended for no reasons. Christine continue to state that she would like to know why she was suspended however, she tried talking to the President who walked away from her. Christine believes that she was suspended because of some disagreement between her parents and the Gulf Coast Skimmers's. e. International Fireworks - Mr. Foy stated that free parking passes will be mailed to all neighbors within the area. There is a $5.00 parking fee at the government complex and the funds will go to the Rotary Club. The Fireworks will run on November 2, 9, 13, 16 and the 23rd. The closing ceremony will be held on November 23, 1996. Mr. Foy discussed that fact that the Fire Department and EMS will be on site. If the weather becomes bad the show will be postpone to another night. Chairman Zaks inquired whether Mr. Foy held any meetings with the neighborhood. Mr. Foy stated that he did have a meeting and approximately 20 people showed up and a few people voiced their concerns. Mr. Foy stated that he address those concerns and showed a video of the show. 8 40. VI. REPORTS/UPDATES a. September Monthly Report - Mr. Mueller noted that on page C-12 under the beach parking revenue that he calculated approximately $472,232. Mr. Mueller would like to know if there are any other fees that are being over looked because it would be nice if we could generate $500,000. A detail report will be mailed to PARAB regarding Beach Parking revenues. b. Track K - Mr. Mueller inquired about what has been accomplish with regards to the Track-K property. c. Parks Adoption Report - no discussion d. PARAB meeting Schedule - Next meeting will be held at the Golden Gate Community Park Administration office. Chairman Zaks stated that due to the hour of this meeting he would like to wave the rest of the items on the agenda VII. Adjournment Meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m. Motion by Max A. Hasse. Seconded by Timothy Blackford. Passed 6/0. 9 AU PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES October 23, 1996 East Naples Community Park 3500 Thomasson Drive, Naples, Florida PRESENT: Joseph Zaks, Chairman Gil Mueller Max A. Hasse, Jr. Gayle L. Stan Timothy Blackford, Vice Chairman Elaine Wicks ABSENT: ALSO PRESENT: Skip Camp, Acting Director, Department of Parks & Recreation Murdo Smith, Operations Manager Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent Jacquie Hart, Secretary II George Parker, Senior Project Manager, OCPM George Fogg, President of IBIS Dale Schwegel, of Southwest Frisbee Disc Association John Gursoy, President of Gulf Coast Skimmers Jeffrey Street, of Gulf Coast Skimmers Peter Foy, of International Fantasy Fire Butch Morgan, East Naples Resident (33 East Naples residents also present) Jeff Shenk Johann Giraldo I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 2:10 p.m. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG III. INVOCATION: by Max A. Hasse, Jr. IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: September 25, 1996 meeting. Motion by Gil Mueller seconded by Elaine Wicks. Passed 6/0. V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS a. Frisbee Disc Golf - Dale Schwegel of Southwest Frisbee Disc Golf Association presented the concept of Frisbee Disc Golf, he would like to see a facility in Collier County. Mr. Franco introduced Mr. Skip Camp who is the Acting Director for Parks and Recreation Department. b. Sugden Regional Park (Revised) Master Plan - Mr. George Parker of OCPM stated that there has been some changes to the master plan for Sugden Regional Park. The changes 1 includes relocation of the Gulf Coast Skimmers from one side of Sugden Park to the other. Another change was the architecture of the building. Instead of having the usual community center building with concession stand and meeting rooms a smaller pod type buildings would be built. A separate building will be constructed for life guards and rangers. Mr. Parker stated that there are 3 fishing piers. In addition there will be a green space area for informal non organized play, and several shaded picnic areas throughout the park. Mr. Parker stated that the beach area which was selected before was not economically feasible to construct a 6 ft. deep beach. Mr. George Fogg briefly describe how the beach is sloped and the landscaping of the area. The deeper area of the beach will be roped off. Chairman Zaks inquired what the plans are in terms of what Sugden Regional Park is going to look like upon completion. Mr. Parker stated that there will be a 20 foot buffer planted around the entire Park. The natural area will remain the same. Landscaping will be planted along the fence line on Outer Drive. Mr. Parker stated that phase one money will include a buffer. Speaker #1 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Richard McCormick stated that for years the community had to deal with problems such as drugs, motorcycle gangs, four wheelers, and everything going on during weekends. The community constructed a fence which stopped some of the problems. Mr. McCormick stated that they are now coming from the South end since the park has been cleared. Mr. Franco stated that perphaps an off duty Deputy can be housed on the site which will alleviate Mr. McCormick's concerns. Speaker #2 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Joe Kraft stated that he has lived near the lake for 25 years and had to chase away people from there. Mr. Kraft stated that it does not do any good to call the Sheriff Department. Mr. Kraft would like to point out 4 concerns: Point 1. The beauty of the island is that it will make an ideal picnic area (the area was pointed out on map) . If the barrier is removed and everything is exposed to the lake the Department will ruin the natural state of the lake. 2 Mr. Parker stated that in that case the area can remain the same. Point 2. Mr. Kraft; Another point he presented to the County Commission earlier was that the pedestrian gate is supposed to be for emergencies only and not maintenance. The gate is suppose to be locked at all times unless there is an emergency. Point 3. The other point is to plant the buffer as the exotics are removed. Point 4. Mr. Kraft suggested that the buildings be put together (pointed out on map) . Speaker #3 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Bob Co. . . who lives on Outer Drive would like to know for the Fantasy Fireworks how the parking issues will be addressed. Chairman Zaks stated that Mr. Peter Foy of Fantasy Fire will address those concerns. Speaker #4 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Butch Morgan stated that the comment that a "1600 seat stadium minimizes the effects on adjacent properties" is contradicting itself. Mr. Morgan stated that the department is not taking the neighborhood into consideration whatsoever. Mr. Morgan stated that all the concerns discussed at the Board of County Commission have not been address. Mr. Morgan stated that nobody from the community has been asked to provide any information or input into any of this planning. Mr. Morgan quoted Mr. Zaks that he was "against additional parking spaces and thinks that it should remain at 350. The idea of this park is to keep it in its natural state and not turn it into Coney Island. " Mr. Morgan quoting Chairman Zaks stating that "Mr. Boucher should meet with the neighbor who have concerns. " which never happen. Mr. Morgan stated that he requested a 10 foot fence from their property with an additional 20 foot opening. The fencing that was installed for the fireworks show, "could have been handle differently. " Mr. Morgan stated that after raising all the concerns about noise, pollution, etc. quoted from the Board of County Commission meeting that, Commissioner Hancock, "My staff will contact whoever your community liaison person will be from your neighborhood" which never happened. Mr. Morgan quoted Commissioner Mac'Kei "We want you to be in a loop" so what is being said is that the staff is being directed to work with the community. Mr. Morgan stated that to him 3 it seems as though someone is not listening to their boss. Mr. Morgan stated that he has ask for meetings and did not get them. Mr. Morgan stated that a meeting was suppose to be scheduled to discuss the buffer zone, and it never happened before the fence went up. Mr. Morgan quoted Chairman Norris, "The last thing we want to do is interfere with your neighborhood. We want to do want whatever we can to try to protect your neighborhood. " Mr. Morgan stated that Tom 011iff suggested that meetings between the County and community take place and nothing ever happened. Mr. Morgan states that, Chairman Norris said, "Thank you we understand your concern in this case our staff has clearly gotten directions. We are going to work with you and try to make sure that whatever you need is going to be provided. " Mr. Morgan said "We are getting the Skimmers shove down our throat. " Mr. Morgan stated that the problem is that the parking lot will be 20 feet from his property line which is not satisfactory. Mr. Mueller inquired whether Mr. Morgan suggested that the Commissioners attend their community meetings to voice their concerns. Mr. Morgan stated that at this point they will take every approach necessary. Chairman Zaks inquired how many permanent parking spaces is there on the plan. Mr. Parker stated that there were 710 including overflow grass parking. Chairman Zaks stated that if he is not mistaken, the Parks Department did hold a meeting with the community. Mr. Franco stated that the staff is willing to have a meeting whenever the community is ready. Chairman Zaks suggested that Mr. Morgan get with the staff to schedule a meeting and he will also attend the meeting. Speaker #5 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Charlie Stephenson stated that there is not enough green area around the lake. Mr. Stephenson stated that 700 parking space means 1500 people will create a large impact on the neighborhood; the noise, pollution, and everything that's involved. 4 4. Mr. Stephenson stated that the Skimmers have an open agreement that they can do just about whatever they want. The Skimmers are allowed to have as many shows as they want at any time during the week. Mr. Stephenson requested that this project not be approved unless the community is aware of it because there are a lot of concerns. Ms. Wicks stated that the last site plan that was reviewed showed the North side being phase 2 and now with the revised site plan you can not really distinguish what is going to be included in phase 1. Mr. Parker stated that by June of 97 the beach area, parking lot, and the landscaping will be built in. Mr. Mueller stated that it is extremely important that the community come before PARAB to discuss and keep the board abreast of what is happening. Mr. Blackford would like to know where PARAB stands today in terms of County Commission approval of Sugden Regional Park. Mr. Camp stated that there has been some changes in administration and apologized for any inconvenience about not getting a meeting with the neighborhood. Mr. Camp stated that he will advise the board in writing of the procedures that have been discussed, what needs to be done to keep PARAB better advised of any kind of changes, and the process for the approval of changes. Mr. Blackford stated that PARAB is feeling the same frustration that the community is, because the site plan for the park has been changed without consulting PARAB. Mr. Camp stated that he will make sure PARAB is aware of any major changes regarding projects. Speaker #5 (East Naples Resident) - Mr. Rollie Flontek states that he agrees with Charles Stephenson and Butch Morgan's concerns. What really bothered Mr. Flontek is that the County Commission makes promises and did not keep them. Mr. Camp stated that he will provide the residents with the exact process of how projects are approved and will inform the resident of when the Sugden Regional Park project will go before BCC. c. School Transportation - Mr. Smith stated that the agreement is still being reviewed and will be discussed at later date. 5 d. Gulf Coast Skimmers Rules & Regulations Update - (a copy of the lease was included in the PARAB packet) Chairman Zaks would like to know what the County's relationship is with the Gulf Coast Skimmers. Chairman Zaks stated that according to the lease, like any landlord and tenant there is not much to say about what goes on inside the organization. Chairman Zaks stated that after reviewing the lease there are some things that he would have done differently. Chairman Zaks stated that according to the lease the the County does not have any control over the Skimmers day to day activities. Mr. Mueller would like to know who designed the lease agreement and gave the input as what needs to be included. Mr. Mueller also stated that he repeatedly commented to the effect that PARAB wanted to be certain that the Parks and Recreation Department has almost total control of the facility and PARAB has voiced that opinion. Mr. Camp stated that at the direction of PARAB he would be happy to go back to the County Attorney's Office and find out what the options are. Mrs. Stan stated that the Parks and Recreation Department has fees established for not-for-profit and profitable groups and rent 3000 square feet for $30.00 per hour but the Skimmers are using a facility which is more than 30 acres for about $10.00 a year. Mr. Franco stated that the Sugden Regional Park is a County Park and the Gulf Coast Skimmers are the County's tenant and it is run like a County Park, if its not clear then the department will clarify. Mr. Mueller inquired whether PARAB reviewed the Lease agreement before it was signed? The Secretary will double check the records. Mr. Mueller stated that he would have personally objected to the agreement if he had seen the lease. A detail discussion took place regarding the Gulf Coast Skimmers Rules, Regulation, and their operations. Chairman Zaks suggested that PARAB submit a written comment regarding the lease to be included in the packet. 6 Chairman Zaks stated that he understands that a number of people are here to discuss the Gulf Coast Skimmers operation. The legal position of the Parks and Recreation Department is somewhat limited and that is not what this board is for. Chairman Zaks stated that some months ago Marco Island residents voice their concerns about jet skis, PARAB listen, but the Parks and Recreation Department does not regulate jet skis. Chairman Zaks stated that PARAB will not dive into the right or wrong of the way the Skimmers operations is being run. Chairman Zaks stated that PARAB will listen to any concerns. Mrs. Stan inquired if the Department can check with the County Attorney Office to see if any Civil Right Laws are being broken. Mr. Camp stated that he did contact the County Attorney's Office and they suggested that the Parks and Recreation Department stay out of the operation as it relates to some rules and regulations. Mr. Camp stated that he did contact some large organizations (e.g. Disney World & McDonalds) to check what their by-laws were on their dress codes and both had the same dress code policy in regards to their hair and earrings. Mr. Camp stated that if he can receive all of PARAB comments within the next two weeks he will submit them to the County Attorney's Office. All of those concerns will be addressed by the next board meeting. A question from the audience was ask regarding the process of bid for the concession stand at the Sugden Regional Park. Chairman Zaks stated that the Gulf Coast Skimmers can run the concessions and use the funds for their private purpose. A question was asked regarding to whether if anyone can rent or use the stadium. Mr. Camp will look into the matter. Robb Stan stated that he is appalled to how the Parks and Recreation sweeped the Gulf Coast Skimmers's issue under the table. Mr. Stan stated that he contacted Gary Franco with numerous complaints regarding the Skimmers. This issue was also brought up to Mr. Brinkman's attention. 7 4 0 4111. Mr. Franco stated that the department did address the issue and had written response. Mr. 011iff also sent written response. Mr. Stan stated that it was not satisfactory. Mr. Stan would like for the PARAB to know that the Gulf Cost Skimmers has a good concept. Mr. Camp will meet with Mr. Stan on Friday to hear his concerns. Johann Giraldo who was a member of the Gulf Coast Skimmers expressed his concerns and frustration about the Skimmers. Mr. Giraldo was suspended for having his hair past his eyebrows and below his ears. Chairman Zaks stated that he once had long hair but he knew that some day he would have to cut his hair if he was going to be hired in an organization. Jeff Shenk submitted a letter voicing his concerns and why he was suspended from the Gulf Coast Skimmers Water Ski Team. Ms. Christine Miller who is 11 years old was a member of the Gulf Coast Skimmers for about 31 years and in mid May she was suspended for no reasons. Christine continue to state that she would like to know why she was suspended however, she tried talking to the President who walked away from her. Christine believes that she was suspended because of some disagreement between her parents and the Gulf Coast Skimmers's. e. International Fireworks - Mr. Foy stated that free parking passes will be mailed to all neighbors within the area. There is a $5.00 parking fee at the government complex and the funds will go to the Rotary Club. The Fireworks will run on November 2, 9, 13, 16 and the 23rd. The closing ceremony will be held on November 23, 1996. Mr. Foy discussed that fact that the Fire Department and EMS will be on site. If the weather becomes bad the show will be postpone to another night. Chairman Zaks inquired whether Mr. Foy held any meetings with the neighborhood. Mr. Foy stated that he did have a meeting and approximately 20 people showed up and a few people voiced their concerns. Mr. Foy stated that he address those concerns and showed a video of the show. 8 4111 - AMMMM VI. REPORTS/UPDATES a. September Monthly Report - Mr. Mueller noted that on page C-12 under the beach parking revenue that he calculated approximately $472,232. Mr. Mueller would like to know if there are any other fees that are being over looked because it would be nice if we could generate $500,000. A detail report will be mailed to PARAB regarding Beach Parking revenues. b. Track K - Mr. Mueller inquired about what has been accomplish with regards to the Track-K property. c. Parks Adoption Report - no discussion d. PARAB meeting Schedule - Next meeting will be held at the Golden Gate Community Park Administration office. Chairman Zaks stated that due to the hour of this meeting he would like to wave the rest of the items on the agenda VII. Adjournment Meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m. Motion by Max A. Hasse. Seconded by Timothy Blackford. Passed 6/0. 9