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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES
March 27, 1996
Collier County Racquet Center
1275 San Marco Road, Marco Island, Florida
PRESENT: Joseph Zaks, Chairman
Gil Mueller
Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Elaine Wicks
Gayle L. Stan
ABSENT: Timothy Blackford, Vice Chairman
ALSO PRESENT: Steve Brinkman, Parks and Recreation Director
Murdo Smith, Parks and Recreation Operations Manager
Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent
Barbara L. Johnson, Senior Secretary
Reginald Boucher, OCPM Project Manager
George Parker, OCPM Senior Project Manager
Norma & Jake Paulson, Marco Island Resident
Charles Cox, Marco Island Resident
Julie Began, Marco Island Resident
Jeffrey Street, Gulf Coast Skimmers
Mark Barr, Beach Vendor
Ron Hagerman, Beach Vendor
Lisa Gorman, Chairman of Committee to Control Jet Skis
Mr. Gorman
I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 2:20 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
III. INVOCATION: by Max Hasse, Jr.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: February 28, 1996 meeting.
Motion by Max Hasse seconded by Gayle Stan. Passed 5/0.
V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS
a. Summer Food Grant - Mr. Murdo Smith stated that the Parks
and Recreation Department runs a summer camp food program
for children throughout Collier County.
This item was placed on the agenda to let the board know
that the Department will apply for the summer food grant
again. Mr. Jim Thomas was up in Bradenton to get the
particulars as to which areas that the County will qualify
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for the grant. An executive summary will be prepared and
presented before PARAB before going to the Board of County
Commissioners. This program is under the Athletic
Department and Jim Thomas has been running this program for
the past 10 years. Jim Thomas serves thousands of lunches
per day throughout the county and 60 thousands sacks.
Mr. Mueller requested that Mr. Smith explain the Summer
Camp Food Program to the audience.
Its a Federal grant that the Parks and Recreation
Department receive to provide lunches to disadvantaged
children throughout the County during the summer months
while out of school. Usually, it ties in with the Summer
Recreation Camp that runs from mid June to mid August.
At various locations, such as the Immokalee Community Park,
the children would come between 11:30 am to 1:00 p.m. and
they are served a lunch. The School Board prepares lunches
for the program. There are several vans that pick up the
lunches and transport from the schools, like Barron Collier
and Pine Ridge, that have cafeterias and distribute to the
various summer camp sites. The program is very good and
successful.
Mr. Mueller inquired how much money are we talking about?
Mr. Smith stated that its completely funded by the federal
grant and this year it is budgeted for approximately
$200,000. There are certain guidelines that the Department
has to meet, which are the Health Department requirements.
The juices have to be 100% juice. The nutritional value of
the sandwiches has to be met. This is the reason why we go
through the School Board, because they have the same
criteria for the schools.
b. Lisa Gorman, Controlling Jet Skis - we are a group of
citizens who have become alarmed at the increasing numbers
of personal water crafts in our water ways. A particular
concern today as you know is personal water craft in the
Marco Island Beach front. Mrs. Gorman brought a petition
with 827 signatures.
Most of the 827 people live on the beach front. There are
perhaps 50 or 100 citizens who do not live on beach front
property that support no motorized engine powered vessels
on Marco Island.
Jet skis are like an alien invading the beaches and water
ways that come upon us suddenly like a dangerous virus.
You need to know that its getting worse and its happening
rapidly. We come to you today because we trust that you
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want what is true and best for our beaches. We've been told
that you care and this is the reason why we came to you, as
a stepping stone to the commissioners.
What we hope to accomplish today is to have you understand
that there is really a problem with jet skis.
Our request to the commissioners.
Local control for jet skis is needed.
Dear, Collier County Commissioners boats including jet skis
do not belong where children play on the beach and people
swims, just as swimmers do not belong in boat launching
sites. We do not want the hazard, the pollution of
irritating noise, the smell, and the gasoline leakage in
the sand. We request you do not allow concessionaires of
motorize or engine powered vessels including jet skis on
the Marco Island beach front.
Proven solutions can be used such as restricting all beach
concessionaire and resorts with limited amount of
catamarans and kayaks. These solutions have been legally
tested and worked at the City of Naples, County Parks and
other places. Because of the increasing number of jet skis
that take our tranquil beach experience with urban problems
we further asked that you not allowed motorized engine
powered vessels, including jet skis, to land on or launch
from our beach. In the interest of safety and to control
noise, we ask for an extension of the 500 foot out to sea
no wake zone to 1000 foot.
Chairman Joe Zaks requested for copies of the different
petitions.
Mr. Gorman stated that there are currently 6 licensed
vendors who are renting out jet skis at the beach of which
3 are hotels and the others are time shares.
Chairman Joe Zaks said to Mrs. Gorman that in order to
allow some rebuttal Mr. Zaks would like for Mr. Brinkman to
define exactly what control his Department has.
Mr. Brinkman stated that the Parks and Recreation
Department do have control over the beaches that are on the
County Parks. The area that Mrs. Gorman is referring to
Park Rangers used to patrol and inspect. However, we no
longer patrol or inspect these areas.
Mr. Gary Franco stated that a couple of years ago the Parks
and Recreation Department did have a Ranger staff person
patrol these areas. The rangers were responsible for the
enforcement of the vendors operation and it was
approximately 14 vendors at that time. It was funded
through the Marco Island Beach Renourishment Committee.
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The Beach Renourishment decided that they no longer need
the rangers and that the vendors would police themselves.
Once a year the rangers would issue permit and inspect the
vendor's facilities.
Mr. Brinkman stated that the Code Enforcement Department is
responsible for inspecting and any kind of enforcement.
It was discussed that the Parks and Recreation Department
do not enforce the ordinance. The Parks and Recreation
Department only inspect and permit the operation.
Mr. Mark Barr stated that he has been a water
concessionaire at the Mariott Hotel for 15 years. Mr. Barr
stated that there is in part of the county ordinance that
idle speed be maintained within 500 feet of the beach for
all vessels. One of the biggest problem is that this 500
foot is not clearly marked and this is why Mr. Barr is
curious as to how Mrs. Gorman knows where the 1000 foot
mark is.
Mr. Barr stated that he thinks the real issue here is that
the County or the State Department needs to do some
surveying and place a 500 foot marker and enforce it. If
the enforcement was there and if the vendors knew were this
500 foot marker was then one can tell if the ordinance is
working.
Mr. Barr stated that vendors rented thousands of wave
runners. Also, condo owners own their own personal water
crafts. These personal water crafts are not allowed to be
launched from the beach. They have to go through a boat
ramp such as Caxambas or 951 ramp.
Mr. Barr said that he thinks this can be resolved if the
are markers placed properly and with some enforcement
before going through any drastic measure.
Concerned citizens (Julie Begman, Jake & Norma Paulson, and
Charles Cox) attended PARAB meeting and discussed some of
the problems they were experiencing with jet skis.
Mr. Mueller's explained that he spoke to a number of people
and the vendors are not the problem. There are a number of
people throughout the Island that own water crafts and
utilized them in a careless way. Mr. Mueller also stated
that he has been in boats were the water crafts almost
crash into the boat.
Mr. Barr also stated that the machines that the vendors
used are made by Yamaha, these machines have the smallest
motor, smallest horsepower, and the slowest speed. All the
vendors have zones off shore as designated areas where
customers ride or they are taken with a guide on a group
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tour. Mr. Barr stated that his operation is very heavily
policed. Mr. Barr has a very strict ruled sheet that
everyone initials and signs. One has to be 16 years old by
Florida Law to operate the water craft. Anyone in question
is carded.
One of the concerned citizens stated that if Parks and
Recreation are issuing permits why is it that the
department has no control.
Mr. Brinkman stated that Code Compliance Department
enforces the ordinance.
Mr. Jeffrey Street stated that the proper name for the
water crafts is Personal Water Craft (PWC) .
Mrs. Gorman said that if the term PWC is used no one knows
what you are talking about. Tom Palmer County Attorney
advised her to use the term jet skis because people
understand what she is talking about. The term jet skis
have to be be used in order to sign the petition.
A video tape was shown.
Let me explain the process. This Board is an advisory
board to the Board of County Commissioners. We make a
motion, going in the form of an Executive Summary, to the
Board of County Commissioners, they review and that
prepares them in the effort to take whatever action is
necessary.
MOTION: 1st part
We review the licensing process and that we pay particular
attention to the number of vehicles licensed. If any
additions, at a given point - say six month period prior to
season - they can come in for a revision of that license if
they are planning to buy additional vehicles. That is the
County Parks and Recreation Department's jurisdiction.
2nd part: Is that we determine who the proper policing
authority is and gives them the responsibility of taking
care of it.
Seconded by Max A. Hasse, Jr. Passed 5 to 0.
c. RFP Pelican Bay Tennis Operations - a meeting of the
selection committee (Murdo Smith, Joseph Zaks, Tom 011iff,
Jim Thomas, Gwen Butler, and Steve Brinkman) will be
scheduled in the near future.
Mr. Smith briefly discussed that the Board of County
Commissioners request that a proposal for operation and
management go out for bid to a private contractor.
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VI. REPORTS/UPDATES
a. Funding for South Naples Community Parks: Mr. George
Parker and Reginald Boucher of OCPM presented master plans
of South Naples Community Park. A discussion took place
regarding various funding methods and master plan
schematics were shown regarding the various funding
methods.
Motion by Gil Mueller that the Parks and Recreation Board
support scheme 3 concept of borrowing $2.5 million in order
to develop phase 1 immediately with phase 2 being develop
over the next two (2) years. Seconded by Max A. Hasse.
Passed 5 to 0.
b. Lake Avalon Grant Status - Mr. Steve Brinkman stated that
the Board of County Commissioners did approve the grant.
The $850,000 will be placed into the project to bring the
total funds available to $1.3 million.
The Ground breaking for Lake Avalon took place on Sunday,
March 24, 1996.
c. Transporting Baseball children status (Jolen Mayberry)-
It was reported that the group was directed to Community
Transportation Service and the Park Department has not
heard anything else.
Ms. Gayle Stan stated that she understands that the group
got a bus. It was donated to the group.
d. Max A. Hasse, Jr. Community Park Dedication Status - Mr.
Hasse stated that it was a wonderful ceremony everything
went well.
e. Parks Adoption Report - Max Hasse reported that he visited
East Naples Community Park is in good condition.
Golden Gate Community Park is always in good condition.
Golden Gate Community Center is kept clean and operated
well. One complaint is that children are still hanging
around the pay phone booth. The kids can no longer
receive phone calls.
Mr. Murdo Smith stated that the Parks and Recreation
Department are working with the Sheriff Department on that
situation. They are fully aware of what the Parks
department is trying to accomplish. It is also a
possibility that the phones will be removed.
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Max Hasse will adopt the Max A. Hasse Jr. Community Park.
Next meeting is schedule at Vineyards Community Park at
2:00 p.m.
f. Mr. Brinkman noted that Veterans and East Naples Community
Park playground are progressing. Both of them will be done
in another week.
VII. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 4:55 p.m. Motion by Max A. Hasse.
Seconded by Elaine Wicks. Passed 5/0
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