Minutes 06/27/1990411=11011.--
MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
Golden Gate Community Park, Administrative Office
June 27, 1990
PRESENT: Mr. Kim Kobza, Chairman ;a
Mr. Steve Ball, Vice Chairman t�r'1 70
Mr. Gil Mueller c_) f_ (f)CD
Ms. Geneva Till rn I..=
Mr. Kevin O'Donnell --'
Mr. Cliff Crawford rn
Mr. Murdo Smith to
Mr. Richard D. Yovanovich, Assistant County Attorney s. ._ CD
Mr. Glen Bridges, Wilson, Miller, Barton, Solt & Peek, Incorporated
ABSENT: Ms. Cherryle Thomas F
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 1:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was suggested that the Minutes include more information about the items being discussed. Perhaps
one or two sentences, this will give the BCC a better understanding of the reasons behind the actions
by this Board. Also, it was suggested that the PARAB Members could specifically mention, i.e. "For the
record..." or "Please reflect this in the minutes" when they want something reflected for a particular
subject. Mr. Gil Mueller motioned that we accept the minutes with the corrections that have been
mentioned and suggestions for the future minutes. Mr. Steve Ball seconded, the motion passed
unanimously, with a 4-0 vote.
VIII. CATAMARAN ORDINANCE:
Mr. Richard Yovanovich was present to respond with answers to the seven questions raised at the May 23,
1990 meeting. The County Attorney's Office Suggested that a study be performed to inventory boats
parked on the beach, land uses adjacent to the beach to determine the conflict, conflicting potential
water type uses, overnight parking on the beach, and the potential problems of high tides. Discussion
Q followed. Mr. Steve Ball motioned that we make a recommendation to the BCC to conduct a study
concerning the possibility of limiting overnight parking of nonmotorized boat vessels on the beach
facilities, including problem areas and identification of potential areas, to allow overnight parking
of these vessels. Mr. Gil Mueller seconded this motion, and the vote passed, 4-0. This will go to the
BCC in early August. Mr. Kevin O'Donnell strongly suggested that Mr. Kim Kobza be present at the BCC
Meeting.
IV. ACTION LIST:
1. Concession Options:
A discussion of the options concerning the food concession at Tigertail ensued. Because of the budget
restraints that our Department is under, and the speculative nature of whether or not we could generate
revenues to cover the cost, our Department's recommendation is that we proceed to contract the
concession at Tigertail and not have County staff operate the concession at this time. We would then
revise the RFP's, and obtain authorization to go out for bid. Potentially, we could get a new
concessionaire by fall. It was agreed that getting into the food business would not be a good idea,
since we haven't been in the business before. The County Attorneys' Office is working on a final
resolution with the previous concessionaire. Ms. Geneva Till motioned to rescind the previous action
by PARAB on 04/29/90 recommending that the County run the concession operation at Tigertail. Mr. Steve
Ball seconded this motion, and the vote was passed, 4-0.
2. Application For Permit for Floating Docks at Caxambas:
The application permit was completed two weeks ago, and has been sent to the State for their review. A
discussion took place concerning the concession operation at Caxambas.
3. Beach Parking Permits:
Staff is presenting the issue of a $30.00 permit duing the budget workshops. We have presented in the
budget an increase to the parking fees at three Beach facilities. Also under consideration, is a fee
at Barefoot Beach Preserve, that will be brought to the BCC during the budget workshops. Due to the
increased patrons we are getting at Clam Pass, we are breaking even on revenues versus salaries at
Beach Parking lots. Discussion entailed the reasons behind the $2.00 charge, and what action our
department will take compared to the recommendation PARAB had made.
4. Catamaran Ordinance:
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5. 50 Meter Olympic Pool & Diving Well:
Mr. Kevin O'Donnell passed out a letter that he received from Special Olympics that stated they want to
see the Olympic Pool moved into the fiscal year 1991. The reply letter stated that he couldn't support
the pool for fiscal year 1991, because the Capital Budget has already been endorsed, and did indicate
in his reply what PARAB's position was concerning this issue.
6. Conklin Point:
We are waiting for the go ahead from the Attorney to place the Bluebill property for sale. We have a
contract with an architectual firm that will be doing the Master Plan for the boat ramp facility. Then
an engineering firm will perform the engineering associated with the project.
7. Frank E. Mackle Jr. Community Park Expansion:
A not to exceed figure for the design services will be $9,000.00. This includes architectual,
engineering structural design, structural, engineered air conditioning, engineered electrical, and
engineered fire protection drawings for the retrofit sprinkler system as well as the new edition, also
the the full specificaitons for the work will be included and it covers initially an expansion of
approximately 16 or 24 feet. It is anticipated that the bid specification would be developed so if
additional resources became available, and/or cost came in less than what we've anticipated the
addition could be expanded in two foot increments. Discussion proceeded relative to the fee involved.
Gil Mueller suggested that PARAB hold it's next regular meeting at Frank E. Mackle Jr. Community Park,
to see the building and visualize the possibility of adding 15-17 feet, to see specifically how many
people you are going to add, and to determine whether they feet if it's at all logical to proceed. Mr.
Cliff Crawford suggested that a representative from Wilson, Miller, & Mr. Peek be at the next regular
meeting. Ms. Geneva Till motioned that PARAB meet at Frank E. Mackle Jr. Community Park, the fourth
Wednesday of July at 1:30 p.m., with the Engineer present. Mr. Steve Ball seconded this motion, and
the vote was 4-0.
8. Recreational Facilities of America:
Several items pertaining to the contract were discussed between the County's Finance Department, and
the Accountant for Recreational Facilities of America. A copy of their $5,000.00 Performance Bond has
still not been received and that is a requirement for the Concession. Mr. Kevin O'Donnell talked to
Commissioner Shanahan about this, and plans on following up with Ozzie Katz next week. The discussion
entailed compliance and the interpretation of the agreement. Staff does not want PARAB to take action
yet.
Mr. Kim Kobza requested that the status of the proposed staff reductions be on the Action List for the
next meeting.
II:;) V. GUIDELINE CHANGES:
Mr. Kim Kobza submitted a draft of some additional Suplementary Rules to the Guidelines. PARAB
reviewed this document. It was suggested that the 7 minutes for Public Discussion be changed to 5.
Mr. Steve Ball suggested that when there is only three PARAB Members present, that the Chairman shall
be allowed to make or second a motion. Ms. Geneva Till motioned to adopt these rules as corrected.
Mr. Gil Mueller seconded this motion, and the vote was passed unanimously 4-0.
VII. NORTH NAPLES COMMUNITY PARK:
This was covered at the budgetary discussion, so it was not discussed any further.
VI. PLASTICS ON BEACHES:
Mr. Kim Kobza reviewed the 1988 National Beach Study Results and supporting materials. That study has
data on the amount of plactic materials that were recovered from Collier County and breaks them down by
type of material in our beach environment during the annual study. Mr. Kim Kobza suggested that PARAB
consider for Collier County a three part program to create greater public awareness. (1) To work on
our signage program, and on our interpretive program through our parks system by the installation of
signage. (2) To encourage the concessionaires to use non-plastics where possible. (3) To place
recycle bins at our Community Parks and Public Beaches, to separate plastics, aluminum, and glass
materials. We as a County should be taking the lead and get out ahead of this issue, to encourage the
recycling of materials, and what better place to do it than our Public Beach System. What people get
at our beaches, what they take home with them, those types of habits need to be addressed. Clearwater,
Florida has the leading program, because they have been doing it for so long. Discussion followed with
concerns of current contract with Concessionaires and plastics, the health issues involved, and the
sign program in terms of consistency and color schemes, etc. Mr. Kim Kobza suggested that staff
research the feasibility of such a program. Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to request that the staff
research these things, and bring them up for discussion at the next meeting or the meeting after. Mr.
Steve Ball seconded this motion, and it passed with a 4-0 vote.
Update: Mr. Kim Kobza asked about the Capital Projects Budget. Mr. Kevin O'Donnell said it was
accepted as submitted. The BCC took no further action relative to the Regional Soccer Complex.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Gil Mueller motioned to adjourn the meeting at 3:25 p.m. Ms. Geneva Till seconded, and it passed
Qunanimously with a 4-0 vote.
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