PARAB Minutes 06/28/1995 Norris
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p4 2 1 1995 PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
MIN°� County Co�n4ssi°ners June 28,ES 1995 Misc.Corres:
Boar6 Date: 9-5A
Veterans Community Park
1900 Immokalee Road, Naples, Florida
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PRESENT: Joseph Zaks, Chairman 3L
Kimberly Kushman Copies To:
Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Gil Mueller
ABSENT: Stephen Klee, Vice Chairman
Timothy Blackford
Murdo Smith, Parks and Recreation Operations Manager
Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent
ALSO PRESENT: Steve Brinkman, Parks and Recreation Director
Jacquie Minnis, Secretary II
Jack Breeden, President, Collier Golf Authority
James O'Connor, Collier Golf Authority
Arnold Lee Glass, Collier Golf Authority
I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 2:25 p.m,
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
III. INVOCATION: by Max A. Hasse Jr.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: May 24, 1995 meeting as revised.
Motion by Max A. Hasse, Jr. seconded by Kimberly Kushman.
Passed 4/0.
V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS
a. Collier Golf Authority of Florida, Inc. • Mr. Arnold Lee
Glass reported that the Collier Golf Authority is
attempting to purchase the excess landfill property owned
by Collier County and is almost successful in doing so. The
property has not been used as landfill but was bought as an
excess property for that purpose, The organization is
doing a study to make sure that the land is suitable for a
golf course.
A 27 hole golf course will be built on the property and
hopefully, in the near future expand to a 36 hole golf
course.
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The property is approximately 330 acres and located on SR
951 near the water treatment plant, north of the existing
landfill across the canal.
Jack Breeden, President of Collier Golf Associates of
Florida, Inc. stated that the business is a non-profit
organization and is a 501 (C) 3. The golf course will be
available primarily to the residents of Collier County.
Golf programs for teenagers and beginners will be
implemented.
James O'Connor, Golf Associates of Florida - Mr. O'Connor
stated that one unique thing about this course will be one
of the few designed in Collier County as a public golf
course and not as a golf course in a residential community.
The financing will come through the cooperation of the
Board of County Commissioners and tax exempt securities.
The obligation for that would be a nominal amount secured
in escrow ($750,000) to cover whatever the exposure happens
to be, to make annual payments of $200,000 to the County
beginning in the third year of operation. The greatest
benefit to all is that no tax dollars will be required.
Collier Golf Authority will be responsible for all capital
improvements and repairs. This will relieve the County of
all responsibility for cost of improvements, equipment
purchases and maintenance requirements.
Chairman Joe Zaks inquired why would Collier Golf Authority
lease the County the golf course and then pay the County a
$200,000 fee annually?
Mr. O'Connor stated that the County will be providing tax
exempt securities because of the variance in the borrowing
will be subsidized.
The $200,000 will be a fee in lieu of taxes to operate as a
non-profit organization.
Mr. Arnold Lee Glass stated that this proposal has been
approved by the the Board of County Commissioners.
VI. REPORTS/UPDATES
a. Estates Community Park bids will be going out some time
within the next two weeks to 30 days.
b. Immokalee Recreation Aquatic Complex Grand Opening will be
held on July 27, 1995. Invitations will be mailed out to
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board members regarding date
and time for grand opening of the Immokalee Recreation
Aquatic Complex and the Golden Gate Community Center.
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c. Champion Sports Products - is a group that will be
sponsoring a softball tournament this summer at Veterans
Community Park. Champion Sports would like to have the fee
changed. The group will be going before the Board of
County Commission to get the fee changed. This will take
place in July. They had a reduction in fees last year and
would like to do the same this year.
d. Chairman Joseph Zaks made a correction to May 24th minutes.
Mr. John Case was spelled incorrectly, the correct spelling
is Mr. John GAST and also on page #4, 1st paragraph, 3rd
line; the word N21 is to be deleted; should read: (it will
be necessary).
It was suggested that PARAB should be notified by a phone
call regarding any item of major concern relating to Parks
and Recreation appearing on the BCC agenda.
e. RFP for the Pelican Bay Community Park Tennis operation is
on hold. The BCC decided not to go with the RFP for the
Marco Racquet Center.
f. Park Adoption Report for Veterans Community Park - Chairman
Joseph Zaks did a walk through the park. However, he was
with his kids and his son said to him "lets get out of
here, this playground is yurkee". Chairman Joseph Zaks
inquired whether the playground equipment will be changed
and if it were included in the budget.
Mr. Steve Brinkman stated that the playground equipment was
included in last year's budget but it was cut. The
playground equipment for Veterans Community Park and Frank
Mackle Community Park is included in the budget for this
coming year.
g. Growth Management - The County Attorney request that the
Parks and Recreation Department get more information
regarding other counties's ordinances. The Department is
in the process of doing so and will forward the information
to the County Attorney's Office. County Attorney will then
be able to rewrite the county ordinance.
h. Budget - BCC recommended a reduction in the Parks and
Recreation level of services, Dragging and lining the
fields will be done 4 times per week, mowing all baseball
and softball fields 1 time per week, soccer fields 2 times
per week, and all neighborhood parks once every 2 weeks.
This will go in effect starting October 1, 1995.
i. Beach Fees - Mr. Gil Mueller, Fay Biles, and Ray Paret of
the Marco Island Tax Payers Association have been working
on the beach fees for about 3 years. The Marco Island Tax
Payers Association attended the BCC hearings but was not
allowed to speak. Mr. Tom 011iff included in his budget
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the consideration of acquiring $1 million dollars in
revenue in beach fees. It was incorporated in the
recreation budget. Mr. Gil Mueller thought that it was a
brilliant idea.
The following Wednesday Mr. Gil Mueller attended the
hearing and was allowed to speak. The Marco Island
Tax Payers Association and other groups spoke thought that
the tax payers were deserving in some relief as far as
having to pay all the beach expenses. Mr. Mueller related
to Commissioners that most of the cars at Tigertail Beach
were from Dade County and yet the tax payers were ask to
supply recreation and maintenance for them at the beach.
In addition to that, they were charging at Lee County and
coming across Bonita Beach Road and using the Preserve free
which just did not make much sense.
Mr. Steve Brinkman stated that a free permit will be issued
to all Collier County residents for the use of beach
parking. At two locations, the Barefoot Beach Preserve and
Tigertail Beach, will have an attendant taking money. The
other locations will have a master meter where you can put
the money in and get a ticket. The ticket would have to be
displayed on the windshield. Also, the county will accept
the City of Naples Beach decal parking permit.
Mr. Steve Brinkman stated that business cards are being
made for PARAB members.
VII. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 4:00 p.m. Motion by Joseph Zaks to
adjourn. Seconded by Kimberly Kushman. Passed 4/0.
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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES
June 28, 1995
Veterans Community Park
1900 Immokalee Road, Naples, Florida
PRESENT: Joseph Zaks, Chairman
Kimberly Kushman
Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Gil Mueller
ABSENT: Stephen Klee, Vice Chairman
Timothy Blackford
Murdo Smith, Parks and Recreation Operations Manager
Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent
ALSO PRESENT: Steve Brinkman, Parks and Recreation Director
Jacquie Minnis, Secretary II
Jack Breeden, President, Collier Golf Authority
James O'Connor, Collier Golf Authority
Arnold Lee Glass, Collier Golf Authority
I. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 2:25 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
III. INVOCATION: by Max A. Hasse Jr.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: May 24, 1995 meeting as revised.
Motion by Max A. Hasse, Jr. seconded by Kimberly Kushman.
Passed 4/0.
V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS
a. Collier Golf Authority of Florida, Inc. - Mr. Arnold Lee
Glass reported that the Collier Golf Authority is
attempting to purchase the excess landfill property owned
by Collier County and is almost successful in doing so. The
property has not been used as landfill but was bought as an
excess property for that purpose. The organization is
doing a study to make sure that the land is suitable for a
golf course.
A 27 hole golf course will be built on the property and
hopefully, in the near future expand to a 36 hole golf
course.
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The property is approximately 330 acres and located on SR
951 near the water treatment plant, north of the existing
landfill across the canal.
Jack Breeden, President of Collier Golf Associates of
Florida, Inc. stated that the business is a non-profit
organization and is a 501 (C) 3. The golf course will be
available primarily to the residents of Collier County.
Golf programs for teenagers and beginners will be
implemented.
James O'Connor, Golf Associates of Florida - Mr. O'Connor
stated that one unique thing about this course will be one
of the few designed in Collier County as a public golf
course and not as a golf course in a residential community.
The financing will come through the cooperation of the
Board of County Commissioners and tax exempt securities.
The obligation for that would be a nominal amount secured
in escrow ($750,000) to cover whatever the exposure happens
to be, to make annual payments of $200,000 to the County
beginning in the third year of operation. The greatest
benefit to all is that no tax dollars will be required.
Collier Golf Authority will be responsible for all capital
improvements and repairs. This will relieve the County of
all responsibility for cost of improvements, equipment
purchases and maintenance requirements.
Chairman Joe Zaks inquired why would Collier Golf Authority
lease the County the golf course and then pay the County a
$200,000 fee annually?
Mr. O'Connor stated that the County will be providing tax
exempt securities because of the variance in the borrowing
will be subsidized.
The $200,000 will be a fee in lieu of taxes to operate as a
non-profit organization.
Mr. Arnold Lee Glass stated that this proposal has been
approved by the the Board of County Commissioners.
VI. REPORTS/UPDATES
a. Estates Community Park bids will be going out some time
within the next two weeks to 30 days.
b. Immokalee Recreation Aquatic Complex Grand Opening will be
held on July 27, 1995. Invitations will be mailed out to
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board members regarding date
and time for grand opening of the Immokalee Recreation
Aquatic Complex and the Golden Gate Community Center.
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c. Champion Sports Products - is a group that will be
sponsoring a softball tournament this summer at Veterans
Community Park. Champion Sports would like to have the fee
changed. The group will be going before the Board of
County Commission to get the fee changed. This will take
place in July. They had a reduction in fees last year and
would like to do the same this year.
d. Chairman Joseph Zaks made a correction to May 24th minutes.
Mr. John Gase was spelled incorrectly, the correct spelling
is Mr. John GAST and also on page #4, 1st paragraph, 3rd
line; the word NOT is to be deleted; should read: (it will
be necessary) .
It was suggested that PARAB should be notified by a phone
call regarding any item of major concern relating to Parks
and Recreation appearing on the BCC agenda.
e. RFP for the Pelican Bay Community Park Tennis operation is
on hold. The BCC decided not to go with the RFP for the
Marco Racquet Center.
f. Park Adoption Report for Veterans Community Park - Chairman
Joseph Zaks did a walk through the park. However, he was
with his kids and his son said to him "lets get out of
here, this playground is yurkee" . Chairman Joseph Zaks
inquired whether the playground equipment will be changed
and if it were included in the budget.
Mr. Steve Brinkman stated that the playground equipment was
included in last year's budget but it was cut. The
playground equipment for Veterans Community Park and Frank
Mackle Community Park is included in the budget for this
coming year.
g. Growth Management - The County Attorney request that the
Parks and Recreation Department get more information
regarding other counties's ordinances. The Department is
in the process of doing so and will forward the information
to the County Attorney's Office. County Attorney will then
be able to rewrite the county ordinance.
h. Budget - BCC recommended a reduction in the Parks and
Recreation level of services. Dragging and lining the
fields will be done 4 times per week, mowing all baseball
and softball fields 1 time per week, soccer fields 2 times
per week, and all neighborhood parks once every 2 weeks.
This will go in effect starting October 1, 1995.
i. Beach Fees - Mr. Gil Mueller, Fay Biles, and Ray Paret of
the Marco Island Tax Payers Association have been working
on the beach fees for about 3 years. The Marco Island Tax
Payers Association attended the BCC hearings but was not
allowed to speak. Mr. Tom 011iff included in his budget
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the consideration of acquiring $1 million dollars in
revenue in beach fees. It was incorporated in the
recreation budget. Mr. Gil Mueller thought that it was a
brilliant idea.
The following Wednesday Mr. Gil Mueller attended the
hearing and was allowed to speak. The Marco Island
Tax Payers Association and other groups spoke thought that
the tax payers were deserving in some relief as far as
having to pay all the beach expenses. Mr. Mueller related
to Commissioners that most of the cars at Tigertail Beach
were from Dade County and yet the tax payers were ask to
supply recreation and maintenance for them at the beach.
In addition to that, they were charging at Lee County and
coming across Bonita Beach Road and using the Preserve free
which just did not make much sense.
Mr. Steve Brinkman stated that a free permit will be issued
to all Collier County residents for the use of beach
parking. At two locations, the Barefoot Beach Preserve and
Tigertail Beach, will have an attendant taking money. The
other locations will have a master meter where you can put
the money in and get a ticket. The ticket would have to be
displayed on the windshield. Also, the county will accept
the City of Naples Beach decal parking permit.
Mr. Steve Brinkman stated that business cards are being
made for PARAB members.
VII. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 4:00 p.m. Motion by Joseph Zaks to
adjourn. Seconded by Kimberly Kushman. Passed 4/0.
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