Agenda 04/20/1989 PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
AGENDA
APRIL 20, 1989
The Parks and Recreation Advisory Board meeting will be held
on Thursday, April 20, 1989, 8: 30 AM in the Parks and
Recreation Administration Building, Cypress Room, 3300 Santa
Barbara Boulevard.
I. Call Meeting to Order
II . Changes or Additions to Agenda
III. Approval of Minutes from March 23, 1989
IV. Informational Items
A. East Naples Community Park Construction Status
B. Joint City/County Advisory Board Meeting
V. Old Business
A. Action List
VI. New Business
A. Bluebill Property - Boat Ramp
B. PARAB Vacation Schedule
C. Role of PARAB
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March 16, 1989
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board met on this date at 8 : 30 AM, in the Conference Room of the
Administration Building at Golden Gate Community Park, Naples, Florida,
with the following members present:
Chairman: Scott McQuillin
Vice Chairman: Charles Stevens
Gil Mueller
Kim Kobza
ALSO PRESENT: Glen Bridges from Wilson, Miller, Barton, Soll
& Peek, Inc. ; Kevin O'Donnell, Public Services Administrator; Cliff
Crawford, Parks and Recreation Director; Mrs. Delores Johnson,
Vanderbilt Beach Property Association Board member; Arthur Jacob,
President of Vanderbilt Beach Property Association; Kathy Taylor, Parks
and Recreation Secretary.
AGENDA
I. Call Meeting to Order
II. Approval of Minutes from February 16, 1989
® III. East Naples Community Park Construction Status
IV. Discussion of City of Naples Parks and Recreation
Advisory Board/Collier County Parks and Recreation
Advisory Board Joint Meeting
V. Schedule of Recreational Programs
Informational only - no action required
VI. Adjourn
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Scott McQuillin at 8: 30 AM.
Minutes of February 16, 1989 meeting approved. Minutes of Special
Meeting, February 21, 1989, also approved.
III. East Naples Community Park Construction Status: The
representative from Wilson, Miller, Barton, Soll & Peek, Inc. had not
arrived. Moved to Item IV.
IV. Discussion of City of Naples Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board/Collier County Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Joint Meeting.
IrMr. Crawford: Pursuant to your last meeting I had contacted Mr. Chris
Holley concerning the joint meeting of the Advisory Boards of the City
and the County. Both Comprehensive Plans address the need for improved
communications, agreements and discussions between members of the two
Boards. Some items that could be discussed would be joint
City/School/County facility uses, program uses, review of Comprehensive
plans of the County and the City regarding the Open Space Element. We
talked about joint facility tours to become more familiar with the
facilities available to both the City and County. There are many other
items including beach renourishment, artificial reef programs and
things of that nature. It would be beneficial to establish an initial
meeting to share these items that are of common interest to both
Boards. What I need from you is directions to go ahead and confirm
this meeting and proceed with establishing a firm agenda. Mr.
McQuillin: I can see that both the County and the City would have
joint concerns on a lot of things, but I was wondering if there would
be a purpose to both Boards meeting at the same time or not. Mr.
Crawford: Again, it was established as a communications means and
identified particularly in the City of Naples Comprehensive Plan as a
policy statement. Any efforts we have to improve those communications
or look at those items of common interest which are affecting us, not
only City wide but also on a County wide basis, we should. Some of our
Board members have knowledge of the City programs and facilities and
some of our Board members do not. The reverse could be true with the
City, so this would give an overview of what is being delivered in
terms of services for both the City and the unincorporated area of
Collier County. We do have programs and service areas that are very
close together, particularly in the North Naples area and the beach
accesses. Mr. McQuillin: So you are thinking that you and Chris
Holley would sort of each make an overview of what is going on so that
it would be more educational in nature? Mr. Crawford: That is
exactly right. Mr. McQuillin: Any other comments? Mr. Kobza:
Just so I understand, you are asking for approval of one meeting as a
kind of . . . . Mr. Crawford: of overview as a service by both the City
and the County regarding recreation programs and services. Mr.
Kobza: Would there be an interaction between the Boards on these
specific issues? For instance, the beach renourishment program? Mr.
Crawford: Yes, it could be. We could establish a workshop where we
take a specific issue regarding beach renourishment, we will say
funding, to establish an approach or a problem associated with that and
solutions to that particular problem. It depends upon the length of
the meeting and the details in it. I think initially since it has
never occurred, an orientation may be more appropriate than
establishing an individual workshop on an individual matter. To my
knowledge these Boards have never met jointly. I think it would be
more important to initially have an orientation and at least know who
our counterparts are that are working within the City. Mr.
O'Donnell: I am not so sure that to discuss issues such as beach
renourishment will be all that beneficial since that has always been
handled by a separate division; so other than for informational
purposes or education, so be it. Mr. Stevens: Other than
educational, what can be accomplished? Mr. McQuillin: We may have
an educational type of program, something may develop from that, and we
might see some place where things will fit together. My feeling is
that depending upon what agenda items we have at that time, if we were
going to limit the time of the meeting somewhat, it might be worthwhile
to have an overview of how the two programs impact each other. Mr.
Mueller: I think it will be beneficial to get together. Mr.
Stevens: I am not against it, I just wanted to know why. Mr.
McQuillin: That was just what I was asking about I think. I think the
answer is that it is going to be purely educational . Mr. Crawford and
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Mr. Holley, who is Cliff's counterpart at the City, will be telling us
about their programs and hopefully explaining areas that are of mutual
concern for them and may be something will come out of that in the
future. I think Cliff is looking for a motion to proceed with Mr.
Holley to develop an agenda for this meeting. Mr. Stevens: What is
the date that you have? Mr. Crawford: Your normally scheduled
meeting, May 18th, 8: 30 AM, in the Cypress Room in the rear of this
building. Mr. Mueller: That is bad for me, I'll be gone that week.
Mr. McQuillin: Well, that is our scheduled meeting. I gather that is
something you already talked about with Mr. Holley? Mr. Crawford:
Yes. Mr. Stevens: I will go ahead and make the motion for a mutual
discussion with the City of Naples Parks and Recreation Advisory Board.
Mr. Kobza: Seconded. Motion passed 4 to 0. Mr. McQuillin: The
representative from Wilson, Miller is here now. Let's go back to item
III on the Agenda. Mr. Bridges: I apologize for being late. Since
the last meeting the construction has continued in certain areas on the
park site while the building permitting process has been taking place.
We now have the building permits, and the DER permit and the County
utility permit required to construct the sanitary sewer. The
construction activity should begin to pick up because there are a lot
of different areas we can work on now. To date the contractors have
been very cooperative in rearranging their normal sequence of events to
jump over into some areas they could work in. The main part of the
work to date has been on building up some of the pads for the tennis
courts, racquetball courts, and building the jogging path around the
lake area. The building contractor has had his electrical sub out
installing a lot of his underground conduit and they have done quite a
bit of work. They should have started yesterday on the sewer
construction. As soon as that is in the ground we can begin to work on
the roadway and some of the ballfields. We will be working on the
jogging trail in the next few days around the tennis courts. Mr.
McQuillin: Mr. Bridges, can you help me get oriented, where is Avalon
School - up there in the upper left? Mr. Bridges: This map is
actually divided into two, this is the Avalon school here. Just for
informational purposes, the School District is currently getting
underway on a contract putting a new treatment plant on the Avalon
Elementary School site. Mr. McQuillin: There is an existing one
there now? Mr. Bridges: Right, but they are upgrading that plant.
The ultimate output from that plant will connect into our gravity sewer
line, and eventually connect to the County regional system up here, so
the extension of the line from here, across our football/soccer field,
down to this area is being done by our underground utility contractor,
but paid directly by the School Board. They issued a purchase order on
that; so that is just a cooperative effort there. Mr. McQuillin:
Are there existing basketball courts around the school any longer? Mr.
Bridges: No. Mr. McQuillin: It looks good. Any other questions?
Mr. Kobza: How long before it will be built? Mr. Bridges: August, I
believe is the completion date. Mr. McQuillin: I pulled out some of
the old time schedules, and I think it was originally scheduled for
completion in September 1985? Mr. Crawford: Yes, that is when DER
made the first jurisdictional . . . There will be a similar update
presented by the staff of Wilson, Miller at the BCC meeting next
Tuesday. Mr. McQuillin: Mr. Bridges, what does Bob Furlong do now,
is he working on this project at all? Mr. Bridges Bob has been the
overall project manager on all the community park projects. I joined
Wilson, Miller six months ago and have been phasing into the park
projects and will be managing the next phase design. To become better
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acquainted I have become involved with the construction phase of this
project. Bob is still involved in some of the other projects such as
the Golden Gate baseball field. I will primarily be involved in the
future design work.
V. Schedule of Recreational Programs - Mr. Crawford: For your
information I wish to share with you some of our major events. In
Immokalee we have a new event "Country Days" , April 1, from 10 to 2 at
the community park. It will be an event with a country theme oriented
for the kids and family. That is being completed and finalized now in
terms of plans and it has been well advertised in the Immokalee
Bulletin. We are looking forward to this event as it is the first big
special in Immokalee. Mr. McQuillin: Are there contests or
something like that? Mr. Crawford: Yes, there will be games,
activities, relays and we are working with a number of the other youth
groups in the area. The next major program is April 8th with the
Celebration of Young Children. We will be part of a program at
Coastland Mall from 10 to 5. There will be displays as well as some of
program participants will be demonstrating. April 15th is the big
program "For Kids Sake" co-sponsored with WINK TV and will be held at
North Naples Community Park. We are receiving a lot of TV coverage on
that event. It was estimated that the advertising cost alone is
$25, 000. It is a good program, and again, all programs and activities
are oriented for kids and their families. We encourage you to
participate in any of these events. Mr. Stevens: What is scheduled
for Easter? Mr. Crawford: We had our Easter event this previous
Saturday. We had over 1, 500 kids here, - Ronald McDonald - and other
things for the kids. It was a large success. Mr. Mueller:
Incidentally, that carnival at Mackle Park last Saturday was excellent.
The staff did a really nice job. There was quite a crowd there, and it
was a nice event. Mr. Crawford: What we are doing, as you can see,
is increasing our special events. We are not centralizing these
programs at the Golden Gate Park, but we are trying to develop unique
programs for each community - North Naples, Immokalee, Marco. Mr.
McQuillin: The Country Days in Immokalee, is that free? Mr.
Crawford: Yes, all of our programs are free. Mr. McQuillin: Is
there anything that we charge for while they are going on? Mr.
Crawford: Not really, only refreshments or things like that, unless we
had a private concessionaire that had a specific charge. The majority
of activities at the special events are free of charge - particularly
for the youth programs.
Mr. McQuillin: Action List - which I forgot. It seems that items 1-6
are or can be removed. What about this #7, design time table proposal.
Mr. Crawford: I did receive that proposal on March 7th, but it was not
detailed enough on the time tables. I spoke with Mr. Peek and he is
supplying me with additional information which I am expecting next
week. I have time tables basically for some of the major activities,
but I wanted more specifics. Mr. McQuillin: Anything more on Willow
Run? Mr. O'Donnell: Basically we put the thing on hold. The last
proposal we received from Willow Run Trust was analyzed by our
negotiating team. He felt he was looking at least 5 years purchase and
prices are significantly higher than they should have been. I sent Mr.
Boness a letter indicating that we were rejecting it and putting it on
hold pending discussion as a result of the Budget process. Mr.
McQuillin: And the Immokalee Board vacancy? Do you know anything on
that? Mr. Crawford: It is still being advertised. As soon as we
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receive the applications we will proceed as quickly as possible for
your recommendation.
Mr. McQuillin: I understand that there are some people here to address
the Advisory Board on the Blue Bill Boat ramp? Mr. Crawford: Mr.
Chairman, I was going to suggest that this be scheduled at some
meeting. We certainly encourage your comments, but as I told Mrs.
Johnson, I would suggest to particularly address it as an agenda item
for your next schedule meeting for April 20th. Mr. Kobza: I was
just going to ask the status. Mr. Crawford: We have refigured some
of it. Engineering is finalizing all the changes that we have
discussed. This would give us time to receive this information back
and we would have a more complete draft plan so folks can take a look
at it. Mr. Arthur Jacob: I am president of Vanderbilt Beach Property
Association and I am representing them today. We came because our
attorney has called and was not sure this was going to be on the
Agenda. The people of Vanderbilt Beach are unanimously opposed to the
boat ramp. Safety problems, traffic problems, certainly a cost
problem, and if I lived on a street across the way from a boat ramp I
should be very unhappy too. Primarily, water safety - the boat ramp is
flush up against the Blue Bill Avenue bridge. Consequently, people
will be launching their boats with little or no visibility to the
north. Also, just north of us is Turkey Bay, which is environmentally
fragile I am told. It cannot be dredged and add that many boats coming
in from a boat ramp to Turkey Bay I think would make the
environmentalist very unhappy. The concern about the traffic on roads
that are already very busy - Wiggins Park brings a lot of traffic every
weekend and traffic is backed up on Vanderbilt Drive, Bluebill Avenue
and Gulf Shore Drive. It doesn't make much sense to put a boat ramp
where it is not needed. The boat ramp in Wiggins Park, we are told, is
very seldom used to capacity; never used to capacity is what I heard.
So our members have told us they do not want a boat ramp and if you
schedule a meeting for April 20th, you will have a lot of people here
in this room. The increase in boat traffic would be abominable. There
are other places where a boat ramp could be more utilized. There is
incidentally an illegal boat ramp on shelter Island right next to that
bridge that people use as a boat ramp. There are never more than 2-3
boat trailers when you drive by. Mrs. Delores Johnson: I have been on
the board of the Vanderbilt Property Owners Association for two years
and last January 28th, four of our members took to the Commissioners
copies of 449 signatures from people who live up there opposing the
boat ramp, with copies of our deeds of restrictions, which says it is
against the deeds of restrictions, with copies of the quick claim deed
where the Conners family gave to the County the land. No where in here
does it specify it supports a boat ramp. Kevin O'Donnell was quoted
this over the phone. What our letter basically said is that we are
opposing it for safety of the boaters while launching of their boats.
Here is a chart of the layout, a rough chart of the way it looks, and
right now when this gift was given in 1984 . Since that time we now
have Nautilus I and Nautilus II cruise ships going up and down this
canal and loaded with people sometimes three times a day. As a
consequence there is a lot of traffic going under that bridge. The
restricted view of that bridge is a real safety hazard. I do not know
if it is true but I do understand that somebody from the Sate
headquarters has stated that this is not going to be allowed because
any restricted view is a safety hazard. Another reason we oppose it is
because of the congestion on the road. Right now when we have a
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holiday for example, the traffic is backed up and we have police
directing traffic at the four way stop signs at Vanderbilt Drive and
Bluebill. We are going to need a stop sigh there soon. Another reason
is the increased waterway traffic we would have in here and there are a
lot of people who leave their boats unattended during the summer
months. I know half our neighbors go up North and leave their boats.
I could see the increased vandalized boats while these people are gone.
Another very important thing is Wiggins Pass has not been dredged.
Right now it is supposed to be done in October or November. Anyone who
puts a boat in there who is not familiar with the waters is in deep
trouble. Turkey Bay is shallow, you can see the bottom. We can get
out only two hours of high tide one way or the other. Turkey Bay has
not been dredged and still will not be. If they are putting their
boats in by this bridge and go under and through a little waterway they
are in Turkey Bay. I talked with the people over at Delmar State Park
and when they see a boat being trailered into the park, even if the
park is full, they will let the boat trailer in there to use that
facility because it is not utilized. That is why we are saying who
needs another boat ramp. These are some strong objections that we have
to it. I do not know if we gathered new signatures, if that would
help. We are very strong, everyone is still opposed and we will go
door to door if that is what it takes. Mr. McQuillin: Well, I think
if we have it as an agenda item on April 20th, anybody that wants to
come and address the Board can do that. I would like to try to avoid
1 repetition though, so we would like you to address different issues.
Mrs. Johnson: There is one other issue I would like to make and that
is Linda Sowers of Stiles-Sowers has developed the whole block of
Flamingo. I do not know if you are familiar with that area - they have
really made it into something beautiful. It was a mess, our
beautification chairman picked up about five bags of trash on that one
street last year. Linda Sowers told me that she has put in writing a
bid to purchase at fair market value that property to develop it for
residential use. She says her letter was ignored. She said she will
rewrite it and I did suggest that she send copies to Cliff Crawford and
to the BCC. Mr. O'Donnell: Who did she send her letter to? Do you
know? Mrs. Johnson: I do not know the name of the person, but I
certainly will find out and let you know. Mr. O'Donnell: That would
be important. Mrs. Johnson: She said it was totally ignored. Mr.
O'Donnell: One comment I would like to make - I did receive a letter
from Mr. Jacob indicting that he was representing the Association
opposing this. I responded to him that before the matter would be
placed on the agenda I would advise him and re-afirm that. The County
Manager has asked me to prepare a report on the entire history of the
Bluebill situation as well as to where we are at this time on this
item. I have asked Cliff and his staff to prepare this information and
they are compiling this for me. We anticipate having this for you by
the April 20th meeting. I cannot promise you, but I will promise that
you will be advised prior to the item being placed on the Advisory
Board agenda, and when it will go before the BCC. Mr. Mueller: I
want to make a comment on the shallowness of water and running aground.
That situation prevails no matter where you have a boat in Collier
County. Are you familiar with the Caxambas Pass boat ramp? To the
/' best of my knowledge the problems that you mention exist there. I know
several people that have condos adjacent to the boat ramp and they have
had no problems, if that will be of any help to you. Mrs. Johnson:
Well, that is just one small item. That bridge is a big item of safety
also with a restricted view. Even though they are "No Wake" signs
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everywhere in that area, they still speed. Mr. Mueller: That exists
everywhere. Mrs. Johnson: But what I am saying is that I can see
boats ripping through under the bridge, and people trying to launch
their boat or get it off their trailer, and the calamity it might
create. As a matter of fact, I met with Cliff Crawford at the foot of
that bridge last January and Murdo Smith. We want to thank you for
putting the new trash can the "No Litter" sign.
Mr. McQuillin: Any other new business? Mr. Kobza: I have one
question for Mr. O'Donnell - is there going to be an ordinance proposed
on the catamarans on the beach, is that in process? Is that going to
come before the Board? Where do we stand on that? Mr. O'Donnell:
Based on some conversations I have had subsequent to that, I have asked
to get a copy of the total minutes from that particular hearing. I may
have spoken a little too soon, if I did it was my mistake. That is why
I want to get the copy of the minutes to see whether or not the Board
direction was specifically directed to work out another ordinance. The
Board had said at the time that a couple of people have commented on
the parking of boats on the beaches. The Commission had said that we
should deal with the existing ordinance the way we have it right now,
and if that was an issue we were going to address, then we should
address it at a separate point. So at this point I want to make sure
what the direction was of the Commission. If the Commission wants us
to work on another ordinance, we will. If not, we never had a problem
and we have not received calls on it. Cliff has never mentioned to me
that we have a problem with it, and we may just let the matter die and
not proceed with it. Mr. Kobza: Before any ordinance would go
before the County Board, would it come before the Parks Board? Mr.
O'Donnell: Yes, I would consider that to be a major policy issue that
would be appropriate for this body to review. Mr. Jacob: This is an
issue that our members are also quite adamant about, particularly at
the north end of the beach. If I owned a boat that costs as much as
those catamarans, I wouldn't leave it unattended on the beach for
weeks. I am surprised they are still there. I would guess that if the
owners care that little about their boats then maybe they should be
told they shouldn't be there. I don't know the legalities for public
beaches. Mr. O'Donnell: It was a four hour public hearing that we
had. I just want to get a copy of the minutes to make sure precisely
where the direction was so we don not go off on a tangent.
Mr. McQuillin: Was there anything else? Mr. Mueller: Yes. I was
wondering. . I guess I am a little confused as to how the Board was
informed as far as our suggestions are concerned as to this beach
ordinance. Did they send something prior to the Commission meeting?
What is the procedure? Mr. Crawford: If we put a comment in there
in the Executive Summary. Mr. O'Donnell: Yes, we could put
something in there. The Board altered the ordinance on the floor
during the public hearing process from what you had originally reviewed
and conceptually approved. That the Board was sent copies of your
minutes, I do not know the timeliness of when you last had the special
meeting and when the hearing was scheduled. I know they did not get
the minutes prior to that. Mr. Mueller: Well, there was a problem
1171) here I understand in getting the minutes out and as a result they got
them late. But those were extenuating circumstances. I was wondering
because I don't know what the situation is with the other
commissioners, but I know as far as Shanahan is concerned, I am not so
sure that he was made aware of what our findings were, nor the advice
that we had. As a matter of fact, we got together, took an hour and a
half the day before the Commissioners' meeting to go over the thing,
and I just wondered if they should have been advised before that.
Mr. O'Donnell: We didn't go through and advise them section by
section, the way you voted. Conceptually you did approve the ordinance
and that was specified in the Executive Summary. Mr. Mueller: But
there were suggestions as far as revisions of the ordinance were
concerned. The reason I am concerned with this is because I think our
District probably is affected more by this ordinance than any of the
other districts. The introduction of Sand Dollar Island for example,
is one of the things that he suggested, I think was very important to
include. I know that Kim had asked during the last meeting, the 21st,
that the minutes be typed up and sent up to the Commissioners, but due
to a time factor this wasn't possible. I am wondering in the future
whether it would be possible to have that done. There is no sense in
us doing this, spending four hours on it, and . . . Mr. O'Donnell:
Frankly, with the length of the minutes I think that is going to be
extremely difficult. There could be a short synapses, I think. You
had indicated that you were hoping to come to the meeting. Mr.
Mueller: I was, but an emergency came up. Mr. O'Donnell: And quite
frankly, with the shortness of time, we were relying on the fact that
you were going before the Board. I know Commissioner Shanahan was
aware of Sand Dollar. Generally as soon as the meeting is over and the
minutes are ready, we send them up to the Commissioners. Usually we do
not have a meeting two or three days before. Mr. McQuillin: We did
change our meeting day back to the third Thursday. Is it possible on
the Executive Summary to have a paragraph to say more about what the
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board did - at least highlight the
points? Mr. O'Donnell: It depends upon what meeting we are trying
to hit. Anything you discuss today will not be on next weeks agenda.
I am not sure it is appropriate to rewrite an Executive Summary to
reflect what went on here. It is a two week sequence - if you approve
it on Thursday, Cliff has to get it me by Tuesday, I have it to the
Manager's office on Wednesday for the following Tuesday's agenda.
Mr. Stevens: This was a meeting on Tuesday and the Commissioner's
meeting was the following Tuesday. This was an unusual circumstance.
Mr. O'Donnell: Yes, it was. Mr. Kobza: I just want to make a
couple of points. One is we spent a lot of time on that issue, and our
time is numbers. I think that it is important that as much of that
information as possible gets communicated to the Board. 2 . If we see
major issues coming, if we can control our scheduling to the Board,
that may help. I understood that was a special deal . Mr. O'Donnell:
Prior to that the Attorney's office had been working with us and our
concessionaires and everything was moving along. It was during the end
of it that it started developing a life of its own and there was a lot
of misinterpretation with the news media. We were able to correct
that. Mr. Mueller: I called Horton after reading all this media and
suggested that the articles published be scrutinized a little more
closely. If the ordinance had been read the articles with the titles
that appeared would never have been written. He apologized and said
the apology would be in the paper. Mr. Kobza: There are a lot of
issues that we discussed that the Commissioners took a beating about.
Mr. McQuillin: Anything else we want to discuss today? Kim, maybe it
would be a good idea if you called Dave Rynder's office prior to that
meeting in April since you own property. Mr. Kobza: I sent a letter
to Ken Cuyler and asked for an opinion on what I can and cannot do.
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Clearly I cannot vote on any matters regarding Bluebill and maybe I
cannot participate in any discussion. I live directly across the
street from it. I do have some insight in the situation but I do not
want to do anything that would even suggest a conflict. Mr.
O'Donnell: Usually the Attorney's office notifies the Commissioners on
a conflict item, the Commissioner abstains from voting on the issue but
is free to participate in the discussion. Mr. Kobza: I want to make
sure that I do not create a conflict because I have a very direct
interest. Mr. Mueller: Do you have a plan showing what is intended?
Mr. Crawford: Engineering has them now.
Mr. McQuillin: Anything else? Meeting is adjourned.
Mrs. Johnson: I would like to be put on the mailing list for the
agendas. Thank you.
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JOINT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING
The Naples Advisory Board met and agreed to the joint meeting
on May 18, 8: 30 AM, at Collier County Parks and Recreation
Administration Building.
Recommended agenda topics for the planned one hour meeting
include the following:
1. Department Overviews - Services and operations
of the Departments
2 . Advisory Board Rules
3 . Comprehensive Plans - Interlocal Agreements with
the School system
4 . Regional Park - County's plan of action
Staff recommends that the Advisory Board approve the proposed
agenda.
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PARAB
BLUEBILL GENERAL INFORMATION
The Bluebill Avenue land was donated in 1984 by the Conners
family to Collier County for development of a boat ramp
facility. (Attached)
There is existing a unimproved boat ramp on the west end of
the property being used by the public for boat launching
since at least 1983 .
The BCC adopted the Boat Landing Study in August, 1988, which
establishes the Level of Service Standards and Planning
District locations for launch facilities.
The Growth Management of Collier County also addresses the
need for launch facilities. The Department and Parks and
Recreation Advisory Board have established a policy of
constructing public recreation facilities on existing County
owned property.
It is anticipated through 1994 there will be 29, 562
registered boats in Collier County. There are over 15, 000
currently registered.
The existing County salt water launch facilities are at
capacity during peak use, the weekends. There is the
possibility of elimination of the 951 facility if the road is
widened.
The County's Real Property Department has determined there is
no other available sites in the immediate area.
Wiggins State Park supports the need for the Bluebill launch
facility.
Attached is the proposed design for the facility with planned
40 spaces for the boat parking.
The design is similar to the popular Bayview launch facility.
The Department is recommending to move forward on the launch
facility following the design included.
Currently there are no County launch facilities in this area.
Delnor Wiggins has launch facilities and was considered in
developing the Standard. In addition to normal use for Gulf
access, the facility would also serve the needs of the
boating community during severe storms.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Mary-Frances Krus Chairman
Board of County C issioners
FROM: Patricia M. Carroll
Planning and Contracts Engineer
DATE: October 24, 1983
SUBJECT: Proposed Boat Ramp Park on Bluebill Avenue
Lots 1-23, Block V, Conner's Vanderbilt Beach Estates, Unit 3
Section 29, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
The Conner family, developers of Conner's Vanderbilt Beach Estates, are
owners of 23 contiguous lots along Bluebill Avenue which are west of
Vanderbilt Beach Drive and east of Vanderbilt Beach Lagoon (see attached
tax map and aerial) . The 4.58± acres within the 23 lot area have canal
frontage to the south and lagoon frontage to the west. There is an existing,
unimproved boat ramp on the west end of the property already being used by
the public.
Since there is a need for a boat ramp park in North Naples, the Conners are
offering to dedicate the 4.58± acres to Collier County for such a use. They
ask only that Collier County provide an appraisal, and that the transaction
be completed by December 31, 1983.
Please add this item to the Agenda for the October 25, 1983 Board meeting.
If it is the Board's wish to accept the Conners' offer, then staff will need
authorization to obtain an appraisal on the property at County expense. Upon
completion of the donation, staff will present the deed to the Board for
acceptance.
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Commissioner Pistor
Commissioner Holland
Commissioner Brown
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October 25, 198,
_ I Item 121
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STAFF AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE CONMERS FAMILY TO ACCEPT THE
DONATION OF PROPERTY FOR A SORT RAMP ON SLUESILL AVENUE
11 Pat Carroll of the Engineering Department explained that
approximately six months ago she was approached by a representative
II I from the Connors family asking If Collier County would be interested in
lands fo: a boat ramp park in North Naples and that she expressed the
3 need for such a park. She said last week she received a phone call
' stating that the Conners family wants to donate this property. She
4 requested authorization to obtain the appraisal and to work with the
Conners Family to get the warranty deed in hand.
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Commissioner Pistor moved, seconded by Commissioner Voss and
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k carried unanimously, that the Staff be authorized to negotiate with the
Conners Family to accept the donation of property for a boat ramp on
Bluebill Avenue.
A Responding to Commissioner Pistor, Ms. Carroll said that the boat
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ti ramp could be on the lagoon which has access through Wiggins Pass to
the Gulf.
Item 122
COUNTY ATTORNEY AUTHORIZED TO DRAFT AM ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE
80-77 THAT DEPARTMENT BEADS BE REMOVED FROM THE BCC'S ABILITY TO FIRE
THEM BY A 2/3RDS VOTE
Commissioner Voss said that Ordinance 80-77 says that the BCC, by
a 2/3rds vote, can dismiss Division Heads or Department Heads. Commis-
sioner Voss moved, seconded by Commissioner Rolland, that the County
Attorney be authorised to draft an ordinance amending Ordinance 80-77
that Department Heads be excluded from the ability of the BCC to
dismiss them by a 2/3rds vote.
Responding to Commissioner brown, Ciiairnan Kruse clarified that
dismissal of a Department Head would go through the County Manager
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