Agenda 02/21/1989 S AGENDA
Special meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board held on
February 21, 1989, 8:30am, at the Parks and Recreation
Administration Building.
Purpose: To review the proposed Ordinance 89- tentatively
titled the "Collier County Beach & Water Safety and Vessel Control
Ordinance. "
Objective: To provide a recommendation to the BCC regarding the
proposed Ordinance.
Possible Courses of Action:
1. Recommend the Ordinance as proposed;
2 . Recommend the BCC reject the proposed Ordinance:
a. change or delete sections of the Ordinance;
b. break the Ordinance up into two or more Ordinances;
c. recommend alternative course(s) of action;
Scope: Please note--we will not attempt to rewrite the Ordinance.
We will recommend a course of action for the BCC.
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ORDINANCE 89-
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO BEACH & WATER SAFETY
AND VESSEL CONTROL; PROVIDING FOR INTENT AND
PURPOSE; PROVIDING TITLE AND CITATION; SETTING
FORTH APPLICABILITY AND DEFINITIONS; PROVIDING
FOR REGULATION OF USE AND CONDUCT ON THE BEACH;
PROVIDING FOR VESSEL REGULATION; PROVIDING FOR
REGULATION OF CONCESSION OPERATIONS, EQUIPMENT
RENTALS AND VENDORS ON THE BEACH AND ADJOINING
WATERS; PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES; PROVIDING FOR
ENFORCEMENT; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES
NO. 81-11 AND NO. 85-6; PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT
AND SEVERABILITY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
WHEREAS, the recreational use of the public beaches is a
treasured asset of this County which is afforded to the public at
large, including residents of and visitors to the County; and
WHEREAS, the manner, mode, type and degree of uses to which
the public beaches and adjoining waters are placed by the public
affects the health, safety and welfare as well as right to
enjoyment thereof by the individuals occupying or using said
beaches and waters for recreational purposes as well as those
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WHEREAS, the operation of boats And other watercraft in
excess of idle speed poses a threat to the health, safety and
welfare of swimmers and others who are located offshore from
beaches and shorefront bathing areas; and
WHEREAS, it is necessary that the speed and operation of
aircraft, boats and watercraft located offshore from beaches and
shorefront bathing areas be controlled in order to protect the
health, safety and welfare of the citizens of Collier County and
visitors to Collier County; and 1
WHEREAS, it is in the interest for the safety and welfare of
the public that certain controls and regulations be enacted to
reduce risk of injury to the public and ensure the enjoyability
of these natural resources by the general public.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, that:
SECTION ONE: INTENT AND PURPOSE
It is the intent and purpose of this Ordinance to protect
and promote the health, safety and welfare of the public at
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large, including residents and visitors to Collier County by
providing reasonable regulation of the public's use and conduct
on the beach and adjoining waters of Collier County, including
the designation of specific areas within which the operation of
aircraft and vessels may be regulated or prohibited. It is
further intended that this Ordinance shall be liberally construed
to effect Such intent and purpose.
SECTION TWO: TITLE AND CITATION
This Ordinance shall be known and be cited as the "Collier
County Beach & Water Safety and Vessel Control Ordinance".
SECTION THREE: APPLICABILITY
This Ordinance shall apply to and be enforced in the
unincorporated area of Collier County, including Key Island and
Marco Island, but shall not apply to the other barrier islands
within Collier County jurisdiction.
SECTION FOUR: DEFINITIONS
For the purposes of this Ordinance, the following words
shall be defined as set forth below:
A. AIRCRAFT - means any motor vehicle or contrivance now
known or hereinafter invented, which is used or
designed for navigation of or flight in the air,
except a parachute or other contrivance designed
for such navigation but used primarily as safety
equipment. The term "aircraft" shall include
ultralight aircraft and seaplanes.
B. A-WEIGHTED SCALE or SOUND LEVEL - The sound pressure
level in decibels as measured on a sound level
meter using the A-weighted network. The level so
read is designated dBA.
C. BATHER - means any person who is in the same water as a
vessel, whether said person is swimming, wading or
engaged in any other activity in the water.
D. BATHING AREA - means any area of the beach and adjoining
waters in which bathers are located or may be
located, whether or not designated by signs or
other form of notification.
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E. BEACH - the soft sand portion of land lying seaward of a
seawall or line of permanent vegetation and
seaward of the mean high water line.
F. BLOODBAITING - the use of blood or bloody fish parts to
attract sharks.
G. CAMPING - The erection of shelter or similar structures
for the purpose of sleeping or lying upon the
beach either under or outside of any shelter,
vehicle, bedroll, blanket, or other protective
garb.
H. CHUMMING - The throwing of bait or fish parts into the
water to attract fish.
I. COLLIER COUNTY or COUNTY - shall mean the unincorporated
area of Collier 'County, Florida.
J. DECIBEL (dBA) - A unit for describing the amplitude of
sound, equal to twenty (20) times the logarithm to
the base ten (10) of the ratio of the pressure of
the sound measured to the reference pressure,
which is twenty (20) micronewtons per square
meter.
K. GULF - The Gulf of Mexico.
L. IDLE SPEED - means the lowest speed at which a vessel or
sailcraft can operate and maintain steering
control.
M. JET SKI - any personal water craft designed exclusively
for the riding enjoyment of one or two persons,
being propelled by propellers or by a jet pump
with a fully enclosed impeller and not weighing
over 350 pounds or having a length greater than 10
feet. The term jet ski for purposes of this
Ordinance shall include "sea sleds," "dolphin
boats," "wave runners," or other such product name
meeting the description herein provided.
N. LICENSE or LICENSED - as used herein means a Collier
County Occupational License or having such
license.
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O. OPERATE or OPERATION - means to navigate or otherwise
use any aircraft or vessel in or on the water.
P. PERMIT - Beach Vendor's Permit issued by the County.
Q. RAFTS, FLOATS, AND FLOTATION DEVICES - Any device,
whether of canvas, vinyl, rubber, styrofoam or
other substance, intended or capable of assisting
in the floatation of a person on or in the water
of the Gulf of Mexico. The term shall not include
vessels or sailcraft, but shall include body
boards unless the context clearly indicates
otherwise.
R. SAILCRAFT - a wind-propelled vehicle used or capable of
being used as a means of transportation on or in
the water, including sailboats, sailboards and
windsurfboards.
S. SEAPLANE - means any aircraft as defined herein that is
capable of landing and/or lifting off from a water
surface.
T. SOLICIT OR CANVASS - Any act,- delivery, or exchange not
initiated by the prospective customer or which
directs attention to any business, mercantile or
commercial establishment, or any other commercial
activity, for the purpose of directly or
indirectly promoting commercial interests through
sales, rentals, or any exchange of value.
U. SURFING - Surfing means the riding or paddling of a
surfboard within the waters of the Gulf of Mexico
abutting or adjacent to the beach.
V. ULTRALIGHT AIRCRAFT or ULTRALIGHT - means any
heavier-than-air, motorized aircraft which meets
the criteria for maximum weight, fuel capacity and
airspeed established for such aircraft by the
Federal Aviation Administration under part 103 of
the Federal Aviation Regulations.
W. VESSEL - means a motor propelled or artificially
propelled vehicle and every other description of
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boat, watercraft, barge, and airboat other than a
seaplane on the water, used or capable of being
used as a means of transportation on or in the
water, including jet skis.
SECTION FIVE: REGULATION OF USE AND CONDUCT ON THE BEACH
A. Possession of Glass Containers Prohibited. It shall be
unlawful for any person while on the beach or beach access areas
to possess or utilize any glass bottle or container.
B. Restrictions on Animals on Beach. It shall be unlawful
for any person owning or have under his control any animal, to
permit such animal upon the beach, except guide dogs accompanying
visually impaired persons or hearing ear dogs accompanying
hearing impaired persons shall be allowed on the beach at all
times.
C. Open Fires Prohibited; Heated Objects to be Disposed of
Properly. It shall be unlawful for any person to have an open
fire on the beach. Said prohibition shall not include a stove or
grill where so designated and posted by the County Parks and
Recreation Department. It shall be unlawful for any person to
dispose of any coals, briquets, embers or other heated object
from any stove or grill at the beach in other than a County
designated receptacle.
D. Overnight Camping Prohibited. It shall be unlawful to
camp overnight on the beach.
E. Fishing. It shall be unlawful for any person:
(1) to fish in the Gulf where bathers are present
after having been warned by any law enforcement
officer that the health and safety of bathers
is being endangered thereby; or
(2) while on the beach or within 1,000 feet from
shore to intentionally fish for sharks or to fish
by those methods commonly known as "chumming" or
"bloodbaiting."
Nothing herein shall be construed to create a duty of any sort on
the part of any law enforcement officer or county employee to
prevent fishing or to warn of the presence of sharks in the Gulf.
of Mexico. ;
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F. Throwing of Balls, Frisbees, or Other Objects. It
shall be unlawful for any person to throw any ball, frisbee, or
other object through any bathing area so as to interfere with or
endanger the movement of pedestrian traffic or public safety on
the beach.
G. Swimming. No person except a person actually engaged
in a rescue attempt shall:
(1) swim or bathe within 150 feet measured in any
direction from a pier or jetty;
(2) swim or bathe in any area posted exclusively
for vessel and/or sailcraft use.
H. Use of rafts, floats, and other flotation devices. No
person shall:
'1) use any raft, float, body board, or other
flotation device of any description, except for a
vessel or sailctaft, more than 500 feet from the
water's edge.
I. Operation of vessel or sailcraft while intoxicated'. No
person shall operate a vessel or sailcraft of any description,
whether motorized or not, surf or otherwise use any other
equipment in the Gulf of Mexico when under the influence of any
alcoholic beverage, or any chemical substance as set forth in
Section 877.111, Florida Statutes, or any substance controlled
under Chapter 893, Florida Statutes, to the extent that the
person's normal faculties are impaired.
J. Use of aircraft on beach or adjoining water prohibited.
No person shall operate an aircraft, including seaplanes or
ultralights, on or from the beach or the water within 500 feet of
the water's edge.
K. Soliciting and Canvassing Prohibited. There shall be
no solicitation or canvassing of the public on the beach:
(1) By other than licensed concessionaires
of goods and services for use or consumption on
the beach. No person other than a licensed
concessionaire shall solicit or canvass for the
sale or rental of merchandise, services, goods, or
property of any kind or character intended for use
or consumption on the beach.
(2) By licensed concessionaires. No licensed
concessionaire shall solicit or canvass for the
sale or rental of any merchandise, services, goods
or property of any kind or character except from
within or within 10 feet of his licensed premises
or vehicle.
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(3) By any person of goods and services for use or
consumption off the beach. No person shall
solicit or canvass for the sale or rental of any
merchandise, services, goods or property of any
kind or character to be delivered or performed off
the beach.
L. Sound Amplification. No audio device, such as
loudspeakers, television, radio, compact disc, tape, or record
player, or musical instrument, except equipment used by law
enforcement, rescue or beach safety personnel, shall be used on
the beach in a manner:
(1) that exceeds a noise level of 60 decibels (dBA)
measured on the A-weighted scale at 25 feet from
the sound source; or
(2) that otherwise violates the Collier County Noise
Control Ordinance.
M. Breach of the Peace; Disorderly Conduct. No person
shall commit such acts as are of a nature to corrupt the public
morals, or outrage the sense of public decency, or affect the
peace and quiet of persons who may witness them, or engage in
brawling or fighting, or engage in such conduct as to constitute
a breach of the peace or disorderly conduct.
N. Removal of Beach Sand. No beach sand may be removed
from the beach.
O. Litter. It shall be unlawful for any person to discard
or otherwise dispose of or abandon any trash, garbage, bottles,
containers, cans, dead fish or parts thereof, charcoal briquets
or ashes, or any other litter, except in designated containers
for that purpose. It is further unlawful to dispose of any
household garbage on the beach.
SECTION SIX: VESSEL REGULATION
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A. Operation of vessel in excess of idle speed prohibited.
(1) The operation of any vessel, or sailcraft, in
excess of idle speed, as defined herein, in or on
all waters of the Gulf of Mexico within three
hundred feet (300 feet) offshore from all sandy
beaches and shorefront bathing areas is hereby
prohibited. Said prohibition shall be effective
and enforceable regardless of whether or not such
area is designated by appropriate sign, buoy or
other public notice.
(2) Jet ski regulation. No person shall operate a jet ,
ski:
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(a) closer than 300 feet perpendicular from the
water's edge except to go and from the shore
or except in a vessel corridor designated
under subsection (3) hereof nor shall proceed
to that portion of the Gulf beyond 300 feet
at a speed greater than merely necessary to
effectively traverse the breaking water;
(b) in an unsafe, reckless or careless manner
endangering the life, limb, or property of
any person.
(3) Vessel corridors. The following areas of the Gulf
adjacent to the beach closer than 300 feet from
the shore may be designated as being exclusively
for vessel use between dawn and dusk daily:
(a) Those areas of Tigertail, Vanderbilt Beach
and Clam Pass County Parks and such other
parks and areas designated and posted by the
County Parks and Recreation Department as
vessel corridors or use areas.
(4) Beach launch of vessels regulated. No person
except a law enforcement officer, authorized
emergency personnel, or other person actually
engaged in a rescue attempt shall traverse the
beach with a motorized boat or jet ski and launch
such vessel from the beach from an unauthorized
launching area.
(5) Water Skiing. No person(s) including skier(s) and
vessel operator(s) shall water ski closer tha 00 —,S OD
feet from the edge of the beach directly on the
Gulf.
(6) Sailcraft, including sailboats, windsurf boards,
"�✓ and sailboards. No person shall operate a
sailcraft closer then 300 feet perpendicular from
the water's edge where bathers are present except
to go to and from the shore by the most direct
means passible in a safe and reasonable mariner.
(7) Regulated areas. No person shall operate a
motorized vessel or sailcraft within an area which
has been clearly marked by buoys or some other
distinguishing device for bathing, swimming or
which has been otherwise restricted by the County,
provided that this subsection shall not apply in
the case of an emergency or to a patrol or rescue
craft.
B. Vessel speed not to exceed reasonable speed under
existing conditions. Nothing contained in this Ordinance shall
be construed to authorize or approve the speed of any vessel in
excess of that which is reasonable and proper under the existing
conditions or circumstances including, but not limited to, the
presence of water skiers, bathers, fishermen, natural hazards or
other water traffic.
C. Exemptions. The following shall be exempted from the
provisions of Section Six of this Ordinance:
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(1) The provisions of this Ordinance shall not be
construed to prohibit the operation, racing or
exhibition of boats or other vessels during a
publicly announced, property authorized,
supervised and adequately patrolled regatta, speed
trial or exhibition.
(2) The operators of Law Enforcement or rescue vessels
or vessels operating under emergency conditions
shall be exempted from the provisions of this
Ordinance while conducting official duties or
operating under emergency conditions.
(3) Commercial vessels are exempted from the
provisions of this Ordinance while conducting fish
netting operations, provided the operations are
conducted in a safe and prudent manner and in
accordance with Section Six (B) , Vessel speed not
to exceed reasonable speed under existing
conditions. Under no circumstances, however,
shall commercial vessels be operated at greater
than idle speed within three hundred feet (300
feet) of bathers.
SECTION SEVEN: REGULATION OF CONCESSION OPERATIONS, EQUIPMENT
RENTALS AND VENDORS ON THE BEACH AND ADJOINING
WATERS
The safety and welfare of the persons that reside nearby the
County's beach areas and of the public that recreate on the beach
and adjoining waters makes necessary and appropriate the
following regulations:
A. Beach Vendor Permit Requirement. Any person engaged in
the rental, leasing, bailment for consideration, or otherwise
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providing transportation for remuneration, of vessel(s) for use
by the public on the beach or adjoining waters of Collier County, 11�
including jet skis and sailcraft, shall be required to obtain a
"Beach Vendor Permit" from the County. A Beach Vendor Permit
shall issue and be maintained upon the applicant paying such
application fee therefor as established by the County by
resolution and meeting the following requirements:
(1) The applicant must have an operations office or
headquarters located at a land-based location with
direct access on the beach in the immediate area
where the vessels are being provided for public
use.
(2) The applicant must have and maintain a telephone
at its land-based operations office.
(3) The applicant must have a motorized chase boat
with operational marine radio in good running
condition that meets all U. S. Coast Guard safety
requirements kept at vessel rental site during all _
hours of applicant's rental operations.
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(4) The applicant must have and maintain comprehensive
general liability insurance with coverage not less
than the amount of $500,000.00 combined Single
Limits.
(5) The applicant shall provide a list describing and
indicating the Florida vessel registration number
of each motorized vessel applicant shall place in
service. Any motorized vessel placed in service
for public use after a Beach Vendor's Permit has
issued shall have a Florida vessel registration
number affixed thereon.
(6) The applicant shall provide proof of having
minimally one operational life vest for each
occupant space on each of the vessels to be
offered for public use under Section Seven of this
Ordinance.
(7) The applicant shall obtain a County occupational
license for its operations office required under
Section Seven of this Ordinance. To obtain an
occupational license, the applicant must provide
proof of having a current, valid Beach Vendor's
Permit.
B. Beach Vendor Permittee / Vessel User Regulations.
(1) The rental or operation of a motorized vessel
subject to the provisions of Section Seven of• this
Ordinance is prohibited to anyone under sixteen
(16) years of age except for those children
between twelve (12) and sixteen (16) years of age
who may operate such vessel provided that the
child's parent or an adult supervisor over the age
of twenty-one (21) years operates another such
vessel to accompany the child. It shall be a
violation of this Ordinance for any person to
rent, lease or otherwise provide for money or
money's worth a motorized vehicle to anyone except
as provided herein.
(2) The renter, user, passenger of or on any vessel
(Q z' °-- described in Section Seven shall wear a
Ct operational life vest while using or having such
vessel in the water, and it is a violation of this
Ordinance for any such persons using such
vessel(s) not to wear a life vest.
SECTION EIGHT: PENALTY
Any owner, operator, or person in command of any vessel or
aircraft or any other person who violates the provisions of this
Ordinance or fails to comply with the requirements of this
Ordinance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction
thereof, shall be fined or imprisoned, or both, as provided by
law, and in addition shall pay all costs and expenses incurred in
the prosecution of such violation. In addition, and as as an
alternative means of enforcement, Collier County may enforce the
provisions or requirements of this Ordinance by means of any
available civil remedy before the appropriate Code Enforcement
Board or in a court of competent jurisdiction.
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SECTION NINE: ENFORCEMENT
The provisions of this Ordinance shall be enforced by
members of any duly authorized law enforcement agency or officers
having jurisdiction in Collier County, Florida.
SECTION TEN: REPEAL OF ORDINANCE NO. 81-11 AND NO. 85-6
This Ordinance supersedes and repeals Collier County
Ordinances No. 81-11 and No. 85-6.
SECTION ELEVEN: CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY
In the event this Ordinance conflicts with any other
ordinance of Collier County or other applicable law, the more
restrictive shall apply. If any phrase or portion of the
Ordinance is held invalid or unconstitutional by any court of
competent jurisdiction, such portion shall be deemed a separate,
distinct and independent provision and such holding shall not
affect the validity of the remaining portion.
SECTION TWELVE: EFFECTIVE DATE
This Ordinance shall take effect upon receipt of notice from
the Secretary of State that this Ordinance has been filed with
the Secretary of State.
PASSED AND DULY ADOPTED by the Board of County Commissioners
of Collier County, Florida, this day of
ATTEST: BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
JAMES C. GILES, Clerk OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
BY:
BURT L. SAUNDERS, Chairman
Approved as to form and
leg/al sufficiency:
Davi C. Weig
Assistant County Att e rney
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February 21, 1989
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+ LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Parks & Recreation Advisory
Board met on this date at 8 : 30 A.M. in the Palmetto Room of the
Administration building at Golden Gate Community Park, Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
Chairman: Scott McQuillin
Vice Chairman: Charles Stevens
Kim Kobza
Gil Mueller
ALSO PRESENT: Dave Weigel, County Attorney's Office; Kevin
O'Donnell, Public Services Administrator; Cliff Crawford, Parks
and Recreation Director; Murdo Smith, Parks and Recreation
Manager; Dennis Gulley, Marriott's Marco Island Resort; Ron
Hagerman, Marco Island Ski & Watersports; Steve Wheeler,
Vanderbilt Inn and Collier County Hotel/Motel Association; Dennis
Clark, Ritz Carlton; James Patton, Maxxair Adventures Sea Planes;
Pamela S. MacKie, Vanderbilt Inn; Mike Monti, Naples Daily News;
Barbara Johnson, Parks & Recreation Secretary.
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Meeting was called to order by Chairman Scott McQuillin for the
purpose of reviewing the proposed Ordinance 89- tentatively
titled the "Collier County Beach & Water Safety and Vessel Control
Ordinance" and making a recommendation to the BCC regarding this
ordinance. It is desired to hear opinions and points of view from
all concerned and we are interested in working out something fair
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This will be a Board discussion and if members of the audience
wish to speak they may raise their hand. We will proceed in an
orderly fashion and hope to limit this meeting to two hours.
Section I - Intent and Purpose - no questions
Section II - Title and Citation - no questions
Section III - Applicability
QUESTION: Mr. Wheeler, Vanderbilt Inn : Does the City of Naples
have a ordinance similar to that?
ANSWER: It is not known for sure. This does not apply to the City
of Naples.
Section IV - Definitions
Question - Mr. Mueller: Section III. Should Sand Dollar Island
be included? It is not really a barrier island but it is becoming
a major recreation area in Collier County.
ANSWER: We will make a note of that and come back to it later.
Question the definition of a barrier island.
Definitions - A. Mr. McQuillin: Aircraft - I do not know if it
was intended to include parasailing or radio controlled planes.
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Page 3 - no questions
Page 4 , "T" - QUESTION: Mr. Mueller: Does that include the
illuminated sign boat that goes up and down the beach at Marco?
ANSWER: Mr. McQuillin: I would assume that they are just
defining the act of soliciting and canvassing. Probably depends
upon the distance that it comes from the shore line.
Section V: Regulation of Use and conduct on the Beach
A. Is already covered by another Ordinance.
B. Restrictions of animals on beach covered by another Ordinance;
does not apply to seeing eye animals.
C. Open Fires
QUESTION: Mr. Wheeler: Several hotels occasionally have luaus
where we have a need to have a grille for a function. Does that
eliminate that possibility, and if so I want to raise an objection
to it. ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: This Ordinance as drafted is
generic in some respects and we will be looking for input from
interested parties; as such it is serving as a model. Concerning
open fires - the area we are talking about is the public beach
below the mean high water line where the public will be able to
walk freely without concern of boating or other activities. The
idea is the County wanted to regulate free space where the public
is. Vanderbilt Beach Hotel typically has beach access to the
C public beach and one thing that might be kept in mind is the
placement of grills. You will be in the area if you are near the
water. There are a couple of ways this could be addressed, either
be authorized for certain areas or for periods of time, so that
the County is aware of activities going on.
QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin: When you have activities do they
usually occur between high water mark and the Gulf itself?
ANSWER: Mr. Wheeler: The tide depends upon the size of the moon.
We have an ongoing program for beach planting in front of our
property and I am not sure what is considered high water line. We
try to keep the grills as near the building as possible for
service purposes.
QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin: What is the intent of prohibiting
fires on the beach? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: When people on the
beach have a fire it lends itself to potential conflagration which
could spread and also people walking the beach could be hurt.
QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin: Under this Ordinance is there any way
to obtain a permit to have a camp fire on the beach? ANSWER:
Mr. Weigel: No. On a large scale activity that would be known
about in advance - it is not the intent to apply that type of
restriction - can have grilles as opposed to open pit fires. The
County through Parks and Recreation will say where the fires can
be. Keewaydin Island is popular for boaters on the south end of
the island. If Parks and Recreation should designate the area
there where grilling can take place, you could continue to have
contained fires . A container fire device for cooking can still
be used, such as a grill or hibachi, we do not want to get into
private property. It is not that the County does not have
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jurisdiction under the public Health and Safety even on private
C property. The mean high water line is not a tide line, it is
abstract. The Ordinance just attempts to be the most reasonable
attempt to create some regulation in the public areas and be more
instructive for private areas.
QUESTION: Mr. Kobza: When you drafted this Ordinance some
areas are general, but did you understand that there would be
changes in it, or is it intended as a draft? Did you expect
changes? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Have no expectations of PARAB.
Under the direction of BCC with the assistance of Parks and
Recreation and Kevin O'Donnell, Public Services Administrator, we
put together this draft. It is being drafted as an Ordinance and
it took into account the ordinances already on the books - beach
ordinances, boat regulation, glass on beach. It has been
advertised to the public - changes can be brought to the attention
of the Board of Commissioners on February 28, but no changes can
be made or cannot deviate as it is advertised without the hearing
being readvertised. What we expect to occur is to maybe have some
differences of view and maybe some elements of various interests
may suggest to be added. That would come to the attention of the
Board through report or public appearance. QUESTION: Mr.
Kobza: Our function then is to make recommendations. One of the
possibilities is to make recommended specific changes. ANSWER:
Mr. Weigel: It may be your function, but it is normal procedure
of an Ordinance to have a public hearing for review. QUESTION:
Mr. Kobza: Cliff, on Keewaydin, do we have designated receptacles
(r and do we have the power to put receptacles in areas not part of
the County beach system? ANSWER: Mr. Crawford: Authority will
be delegated to Parks and Recreation. Some things to take into
consideration is the health, safety and welfare of the public as
well as comments from various departments - Fire Department
regarding dry seasons - insure whatever takes place would be safe
in nature for the public at large. QUESTION: Mr. Kobza: To
enforce the beach regulations at Keewaydin - are you going to put
it receptacles there? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: People will not
leave anything at a beach unless it is in a receptacle. This
Ordinance does not require County to place receptacles. It is
stating to people if you are going to leave coals to put them in a
receptacle, otherwise take them with you. The idea is to clean up
your mess if you make one, leave litter in a receptacle if there
is one, or take it with you. QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin: I
question why this Ordinance is so comprehensive. Why does it
include other ordinances? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Section 5 "A" -
is in a previous Ordinance, "B" is in Parks Ordinance at present
time. Some other elements, over night camping, air craft on the
beaches, etc. are ones that both the County Attorney's and Board
of County Commissioners' offices, as well as Public Services
office, had calls from people. We were asked to put something
together which the BCC will sift through and decide what to keep -
ease of administration of the Ordinance - previous ordinances were
largely going to be repeated in this. I did some research and
worked with the concessionaires and it turns out that not just jet
skis are creating problems, but also other boats and it then
turned into a vessel ordinance. QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin: A,
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B, C, D, are in previous ordinances - I wondered why they are
included in this Ordinance. ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: "D" - Over
night camping - is an example. It is already prohibited in the
City of Naples. QUESTION: Mr. Mueller: I have received input
from the President of Tigertail Beach Association, Commodore of
the Cruise club with 224 members who use the beach a great deal,
and gentlemen on the front lines of Tigertail Beach and I have
some questions. Section III - Applicability. It mentions
Keewaydin and Marco Island - what about Sand Dollar Island. May
it not be advisable to include Sand Dollar - it is a mile long and
getting larger - turning into a popular recreation spot.
ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Good point. QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin:
Barrier islands are not defined. ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Sand
Dollar would not be classified as a barrier island and it is
something to be recommended that it be added. QUESTION: Mr.
Mueller: Section IV "T" - Solicit or Canvass - wondering if this
applies to the illuminated sign boat that cruises Marco Island
advertising and is less than 300 feet out. ANSWER: Mr. Weigel:
"T" is a definition. It would be included on page 6, "K" . I
think you will find they are not directly soliciting and getting
into people's faces on the beach. Think under sub-paragraph, page
2 , if licensed concessionaire it might be OK. Mr. McQuillin:
It would be one of the things we can go over with the BCC. Mr.
Weigel: . They would have to have a license. I do not see that
they are directly protected here. I will see if we can come up
with language to request that question. QUESTION: Mr. Kobza:
Applicability - does it apply to Vanderbilt and all other
unincorporated beaches, because it does not specifically describe
that. ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: It covers all beaches in
unincorporated areas and has additional language for Keewaydin and
barrier islands. QUESTION: Mr. Wheeler: Does the City of
Naples have similar ordinances? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: I do not
have the Ordinance number to give you. Their ordinances are about
beach and not the parks, pier and all beach access areas.
Section V - Any questions?
QUESTION: Mr. Kobza: Overnight camping prohibited - again, I am
referring to Keewaydin, does this only prohibit camping up to mean
high water level? What if you anchor your boat and set up tents
in the interior of the island? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: You would
be on private property and it would be up to owners to allow you
to remain. High water line is probably pretty far up into that
peninsula area. Ms MacKie: The owners of Keewaydin are aware of
the camping going on but they are not encouraging camping in that
area. Mr. McQuillin: You could anchor 300' within the water
line overnight? ANSWER: Yes. Mr. Kobza: You are in fact
trespassing. QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin: Part E - fishing.
Mr. Mueller: It is not referring to commercial fishing - just
sitting in boats? Mr. McQuillin: Just in "E" . Mr. Mueller:
There is a lot of fishing from the beach at Tigertail Beach.
Mr. McQuillin: We will make a note of that. Mr. Kobza: "E" 1 -
wording - bathers require people in the water and I am thinking at
Vanderbilt Beach often times you do not have people in the water
but they are on the beach where these guys are casting.
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Mr. McQuillin: I do not want to be over technical here but
bathers is described as in the same water as a vessel. ANSWER:
Mr. Weigel: Thank you for your comments, it could be expanded and
be more concise. Regarding (1) fishing - put whether or not you
are standing on the beach or in the water. There has to be a
warning first, cannot fish with other bathers present and until
you are warned you are not breaking the law. Bathers needs to be
modified - it cannot be done without further advertising.
F - Throwing balls, frisbees, or other objects. QUESTION: Mr.
Wheeler: What do we have beach and recreation areas for if only
can play ball, etc. in special areas. If you issue citations or
start offending the tourists for throwing a frisbee on the beaches
of Naples, we are in serious trouble. Mr. Gulley: If you can't
throw a frisbee or a ball, what can we do? Mr. McQuillin: I
would assume the reason this occurred is because someone called up
and said he got hit in the head. Do you have some type of
suggestion for an alternative? Ms. MacRie: The motivation here
is to protect the people, you have the possibility if someone
became negligent or if they endanger pedestrians but not just that
the pedestrians have a greater right to use beach than a person
throwing a frisbee. Marco Island is self policing. This is the
type of thing that the sheriff's department could do. ANSWER:
Mr. Weigel: Again it is not a prohibition on frisbee throwing,
touch football, etc. It is to regulate where other people are
present. Players can pick their spots and have no difficulty
whatsoever. Enforcement of this is that the Sheriff's Department
or the Park Ranger can break it up, but it is not a prohibition on
this. Mr. Wheeler: There are those individuals who sit in a
certain area, they come in and sit in the middle of a game area
and then complain the players are invading their space. The
Sheriff's Department would go crazy if they see this as an
Ordinance. Ms. MacRie: A suggestion would be to strike a
language that to interfere with pedestrian traffic or endanger
public safety but not interfere with the movement of pedestrian
traffic. Mr. Weigel: The idea is people like to walk along the
beach and not get hit with flying objects. Everyone is allowed on
the beach, it is these flying objects that create a problem.
Mr. Mueller: On Marco Island the hotels on beach police those
activities, and at Tigertail it is monitored closely. To my
knowledge there has not been any complaint about frisbees. Mr.
McQuillin: There must have been complaints or it would not be in
here. We do not want to rewrite the Ordinance but we do want to
make recommendations. If it endangers the health and welfare of
other people, it is an area of justifiable concern. We want to
consider this fairly for everyone. Mr. Gulley: Hotels sometimes
hold beach olympics, will this infringe on the ability to do so?
ANSWER: Mr. O'Donnell: I would not see any problem. Mr.
Stevens: Normally something like that would be in a designated
area, and would try to stay out of traffic. Ms. MacRie:
Everyone's intention is the same, for people not to get hurt. I
would say we have to be careful not to get an ordinance that does
more than that. If a person call with a complaint, the sheriff
refers to the Ordinance, do not let the opportunity arise for
confusion for what you intention really is. Mr. Robza: I
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proximity of the condo. Mr. McQuillin: So it is the noise?
Mr. Weigel: It is the noise and potential danger to bathers on
the beach. Under the current County noise ordinance no loud
noises are allowed and under the draft ordinance it is being
addressed here. The reason for the call was initially because of
the danger and then it also became a noise factor. Mr.
McQuillin: Mr. Patton, do you have an alternative proposal or do
you see a way of fitting things into the ordinance or changing
your operation that would meet your needs? Mr. Patton: I come
down to the beach in my boat, in my car, and also parachute. Is
that covered in there? ANSWER: Mr. McQuillin: I would suggest
that you might want to think about it and on February 28 you might
want to attend that meeting to talk to the BCC and have a
proposal. QUESTION: Mr. Hagerman: I run a parasailing
operation out of Marriott and take pictures. If a person wants to
take pictures of their friends sitting on the beach 300' out is
OK but 500' I cannot do it. I am a professional and I do not see
why I should be penalized. QUESTION: Mr. McQuillin: You say
the boat will stay 500' out but the parasol will come in? Mr.
Hagerman: If the parasail has to stay out 500' that puts me out
of the picture. Mr. McQuillin: The definition of aircraft does
not include parasail, was that the way it was intended? Parachute
is defined as an emergency devise, a parasail is not an emergency
device. QUESTION: Mr. Stevens: Section 6 - Vessel regulation
- no person shall operate closer than 300 feet in excess of idle
speed. In your case you would have to be going fast. ANSWER:
Mr. Hagerman: Not necessarily. It depends on the wind. I could
be at a full idle and ride along the shore. I do not feel I
should be restricted to 500 feet out when jet skiers can come
closer to shore and are more of a danger. QUESTION: Mr.
McQuillin: Was there some reason for five hundred? ANSWER:
Mr. Weigel: There was, but I fail to see the problem that
gentlemen is attempting to address. A Parasail is being pulled by
a boat, it is not an aircraft, it is not an emergency device, it
is referred to as a vessel . Should be no problem. McQuillin: We
are just trying to get input. QUESTION: Parasailing area,
will signs be put up along the way? Section 4 - beach areas -
does that mean boats cannot go into the bathing area? Mr.
Mueller: I do not see that. Mr. McQuillin: It is on page 2 ,
we will come to that in the ordinance on page 8. Mr. Wheeler:
Clarification of use of air craft, a parachute is not an aircraft.
K - Soliciting and Canvassing - any questions or concerns.
Mr. Gulley: Number 3 we have concerns. We take people to go to
Rookery Bay shelling and cruising and leave from the beach area.
Does it prohibit this? ANSWER: Mr. McQuillin: Good point. It
seems that would be prohibited but I doubt if that is the intent.
Mr. Weigel: Again look at the definition. On your own premises
or concessionaire stand almost anything goes. It is just down on
the mean high water line area. Mr. Wheeler: Section 2 . Again
it might be hotel properties that only might have an employee that
is taking cocktail orders. Can they go more than 10 feet from
that place? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Yes. Marriott on Marco was
going to supply drinks before this ordinance and it was the
understanding of the County and hotels that this was not in
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conflict. The answer to your question is you can sell drinks on
the beach. Mr. Wheeler: We do not do this, but other
properties might. Mr. Weigel: That is not contemplated but it
is a possibility. People that are clients of hotel may be
serviced but not all people in the beach area. A person can carry
a drink down to the beach. Mr. Clark: My waitress cannot go
down on the beach below the mean high water mark? Ms. MacRie:
What if mean high water line is more than 10'? Mr. Weigel: On
your own premises or licensed premises is property line. Mr.
O'Donnell: In case of this you go right up to the mean high water
line. Mr. Clark: Would any of this really apply to us then
because it is on our property. Mr. Robza: To the extent that
we discussed "K" Section 3 - going to have to time share does
not have the appearance of conflict, but they cannot participate.
Mr. McQuillin: The intent is to prohibit time share. Mr.
Weigel: Time share was one of the elements brought to our
attention. Mr. McQuillin: It would seem that it would be
illegal for a person to wear a Tee shirt that says "buy beer at
Joe's" . Mr. Weigel: That is not the intent. Mr. McQuillin:
Could have a real estate sales person, insurance, or stock broker
and engage in conversation and solicit business which would seem
to be illegal under this ordinance. Mr. Weigel: We wanted to
be very careful not to infringe on free speech. This is directed
to commercial activities throughout and it essentially almost
requires an act. If a person is walking along the beach, they
are not going to have a paper thrown into their hands, we need an
exchange of act, placing something in your hands. We are talking
about commercial activities. It does not include religious area.
Mr. Mueller: It would protect people from having the time share
people following them into the parking lot and restrooms. Mr.
McQuillin: Would this ordinance include bathrooms? Mr.
O'Donnell: Marco Island parks have rules, hotels have rules, so
that would take care of that. Hotels can set up their own rules.
QUESTION: What about jet skiers who just pull up and do business
right off the beach. ANSWER: Mr. O'Donnell: It is covered.
Mr. Clark: Our boats we rent, we can cross over the public beach
area? ANSWER: Mr. McQuillin: It is addressed on page 8.
L. Sound Amplification - QUESTION: Mr. Wheeler: I have a
question about the noise level. I would like to know what
research was done and how that level was established. ANSWER:
Mr. Weigel: This is the exact language from Volusia County area -
current 60 decibels level off the beach. The draft notice
ordinance uses 55 decibels which will be at night. The 60 decibel
or 55 is the current one. We are going to find sound
amplification and other elements - talking about enforcement in
general - clearly there is a full plate for the Sheriff's
Department and other enforcement agencies. The County defines
this in many other areas also, the County may not have the
Sheriff's Department patrol the beach in numbers people would like
to be but implementation is something that will come over in a
period of time. The same thing for parties and sounds, so sound
amplification and other elements are going to put the public on
legal notice that that is the law - it may not be going to be
enforced right away. It is my understanding that right now there
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is only one sound meter at the present time. The public will
become aware of this law, through public hearing, public media,
etc. The large majority of people observe these decencies and will
continue to do so when an and if the ordinance is adopted. Some
of the fine elements will not be enforced right away. In regard
to the sound amplification standards have to be set, it is
arbitrary, but it is up to the Board to make any suggestions for
changes. Mr. Wheeler: I would like to question the 60
decibels. Volusia County may not have the tourists we have.
ANSWER: Volusia County includes Daytona Beach and they have
tourists. Mr. McQuillin: It is not something that will evolve
gradually - what really happens is that it takes one person to
make ten calls to the BCC. Next thing you know is that the one
sound device will be out measuring someone, so it doesn't sort of
expand as we receive the funds. QUESTION: Where does this 25
foot distance start? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: The public beach
area. If you are up on private property you would be subject to
the ordinances in effect right now. QUESTION: Mr. Wheeler: What
if the sound is coming from the building itself? ANSWER: If
the source of sound is seaward it would be under this ordinance.
Mr. O'Donnell: If on private property the existing noise
ordinance takes effect.
M - Breach of the Peace; Disorderly Conduct
N - Removal of Beach Sand
O - Litter
Section 6, Vessel Regulation "A" - Mr. Wheeler: Operation of
sail craft within 300 feet. We have a summer program at our beach
where the YMCA gives an instruction course Memorial Day to Labor
Day for nine year olds on sail boats. If we ask them to take
these youngsters out over 300 feet they would be in trouble. A
parasail would be the same as sail boat lessons. Mr. Kobza:
Section K - a water skier does his jumps he starts on a 75 foot
rope and of course you do not want these people starting in a
swimming area certainly but is a certain danger taking a water
skier out 300 feet, especially when instructing. There are a lot
of people in the water and boats - potential of great danger.
ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Good point. I do not see that as a legal
option the way this is drafted. In fact again the ordinance
embraces the whole county but it reaches compromises. Off Sand
Dollar Island, you brought it to my attention, you can wade out
hundreds of feet and still be in shallow water. That is why
skiers should still be 500 feet out. It still doesn't take care
of that problem at Sand Dollar. Mr. Mueller: That is the
reason that I brought up Sand Dollar under "Applicability" . There
seems to be about 400 feet between Tigertail Beach so you have 300
feet seaward and 300 feet landward. Mr. Weigel: If it is any
consolation that area is going to a bathing area only, so you will
be having protection there. Mr. Mueller: Boats are zooming
through there like crazy and someone is going to be sliced up
there pretty soon. QUESTION: What about parasailing, how about
people walking over there onto the sand bar? Mr. Weigel: Will
be an adequate vessel area around that area. Mr. Hagerman: I
pass through there every day, I do not mind it being an idle zone,
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but I do need to go through there if the north side is rough.
ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: We are looking for safety and some
flexibility. In regard to the question of beginners and learners
for sailcraft off the beach, page 8, section 6, the intent was to
address it there. Section 6, page 8, states "No person shall
operate a sailcraft closer than 300 feet perpendicular from the
water's edge where bathers are present" so by that exclusion, if
there are no bathers, you can go in and out. Page 7, section 6,
Al, it includes sailcraft as well as vessels in excess of idle
speed. The idea is I have seen boats come in very fast in
populated bathing areas and we are trying to prevent that. Mr.
Mueller: Ron, again this is not in criticism of your operation,
but the superintendent of Tigertail Beach tells me that you go
through there considerably in excess of that speed. Mr. Hagerman:
We do, but being that were are no markers out there and if no
swimmers in the water, then being a professional I am looking
where I am going. I would put the line at 50 feet. All my
drivers have been instructed that they have to idle through there
if anyone in water. Mr. Mueller: You may be a professional,
but there are many people who are not. I am afraid someone is
going to be hurt between Sand Dollar and Tigertail. Mr. Hagerman:
I see it also. Mr. Mueller: Mr. Weigel, on this bather area,
do you refer to it as a bather area or a roped area at all? Mr.
Weigel: It is being contemplated. Mr. O'Donnell: Basically
the bathing area is between the beach and Sand Dollar Island is
designated as a swimmer area only because of the safety factor.
The swimmers like going out to Sand Dollar. They are setting up a
corridor area where vessels can go in and out. Mr. Hagerman: If
the winds are out of Northwest I cannot go around, but it is
calmer in there. I need to go inside Tigertail in bad weather. I
think idle speeds should be observed, but I do not think boats
should be eliminated all together. It is necessary for me to go
through there. Enforcement is going to be the biggest problem, it
is not marked and you do not know you are supposed to idle around
there. Mr. Robza: I am a little concerned that we are getting
kids out there more than 300 feet on jet skis and we will have a
rescue problem. Water skiers - "no persons shall water ski closer
than 500 from the edge of the beach directly on the Gulf" . Let's
go to Keewaydin and interior beaches, this does not apply?
ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: We thought about that area and it is not
included. QUESTION: Mr. Gulley: We have a number of concerns
concerning wave runners which is similar to a jet ski. We at the
hotel insist that they idle and tow our renter in. I am death
against wave runners and jet skis within 300 feet area of the
beach. It is a danger. Mr. O'Donnell: I have heard the same
from other concessionaires. Mr. McQuillin: A private owner is
not going to have someone to tow him in. He probably would not
have a second jet ski or a boat to tow him in. He could idle
himself in. You are saying idle in and idle out. Mr. Robza: I
am trying to visualize the mechanics of it. Someone is going to
get hurt but with the number of kids lets get the kids wearing
life vests or whatever. Mr. Hagerman: I pay someone to stay with
them and supervise them, keep them away from other people and from
other kids. I believe they should be further than 300 feet off
the beach. There are swimmers just inside that line and maybe
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have to idle more than 300 feet. Mr. Stevens: You just made a
suggestion about the safety of the kids. I recommend that they
wear a life vest. Mr. Hagerman: They have to wear one. Mr.
Stevens: They are required to wear a life jacket for safety
factors. Mr. Weigel: There are variations of jet skis. Part
of the regulation in keeping them 300 feet outside is to be in
conformance with all vessels, but also a jet ski with a two cycle
engine you get a lot of odor and smell that are a bother to people
on the beach. Also a lot of language noted in this ordinance, it
prefaces operational legal division is that the beach is a
recreational zone and we want to keep it nice environmentally for
Mr. McQuillin: Before we lose anyone else I want to thank you for
coming and putting input in this.
Part B - Vessel speed not to exceed reasonable speed under
existing conditions.
Part C - Exemptions
QUESTION: Mr. Wheeler: I would like to go back to vessel
corridors. I see that Vanderbilt Beach is to be an area. We
donate $230, 000 to YMCA and it is vitally important to have a
vessel corridor real close. ANSWER: Mr. Crawford: Vanderbilt
is the Vanderbilt public beach. Corridors refer to public beach
areas owned and operated by the County. Mr. Weigel: Vanderbilt
Beach generally is not being discussed here. It mentions
Tigertail, Vanderbilt, Clam Pass County Parks and such other parks
and areas designated and posted by the Parks and Recreation
Department. A vessel corridor is one that will be specifically
designated by the Parks and Recreation Department at its park
facilities. But nothing is being stated about Vanderbilt Beach or
Marco Beach generally. Mr. Wheeler: So that vessel corridor
would be established at County park areas only. A windsurfer can
go through areas and go 300 feet from the beach? Mr. Weigel:
Under 6 Operate them where bathers are present except to go
through. You cannot do it above idle speed. Mr. Wheeler: I am
concerned about sail craft. Mr. Hagerman: Marco Beach
concessionaire, through the southeast of property are bathers in
the water, cannot go out three hundred feet and cannot idle.
Mr. Weigel: There will be some elements that we cannot address
very clearly without creating liable and enforcement people will
understand that if a person is not in direct danger by a jet ski
it will be OK. If a person provides supervision and it is being
done by a professional it is different. Mr. McQuillin: Is it
possible to put up signs that bathers are doing so at own risk?
Mr. Weigel: Too many other things need to be done first. Mr.
O'Donnell: It is not intended to limit instruction within 300
feet, just to keep boaters, etc. out 300 feet, trying to keep the
boaters and swimmers away from each other. If you designate an
area keep the swimmers out of the area when giving lessons. Ms.
MacKie: If the intent is to allow this to happen add a few works
"except for" so that it is allowed. QUESTION: Mr. Kobza:
What is the possibility of having a vessel corridor outside a park
facility? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Possibility is there. Mr.
Kobza: So if the Parks Department thought that was appropriate
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for the Y program they could work towards establishing a corridor.
Part C - Exemptions.
Mr. Hagerman: Pulling water skiers behind a boat - a lot of my
business depends upon how close to the beach the activity is. It
affects my business and 500 feet seems to me to be unreasonable
seeing that any other boat can operate at 300 feet. By just being
right in front of the Marriott advertises my business. I, being a
professional, need to be to that 300 feet line to promote my
business. We are staying away from the swimmers but need to get
into that 300 feet line. If I were 500 feet out people don't see
it as well and don't get excited about it and I would lose
business. Mr. Gulley: What was the determination made between 300
to 500 feet and jet skiers and water skiers. What was the reason?
ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Three hundred feet for jet skis treats them
as other vessels. As per the ordinance we have a regulation on
flotation devices beyond 500 feet and beyond that would make it a
clear area for boats, etc. to go. Mr. Gulley: Beyond 300 feet
you would not usually see a swimmer out there. We mark it at 300
feet, I would not want to mark it beyond 300 feet. That should
allow enough control. Mr. Weigel: Three hundred for a water
skier also. Mr. Kobza: You are required to have a spotter for
a water skier. Mr. Gulley: Jet skiers are on their own. Mr.
O'Donnell: Put it at 300. Mr. Weigel: page 9, 3 , states
that commercial vessels be operated at idle speed - these are
figures and are subject to change. Mr. Hagerman: Does not that
apply to me? Mr. Weigel: No, you are a concessionaire. Mr.
Mueller: Paragraph 3 - Do I understand that fishing vessels are
exempt except Section 6 B of this entire ordinance. ANSWER:
Mr. Weigel: Should be of this section instead of the ordinance.
Section 7 , "A" - Beach Vendor Permit Requirement - QUESTION:
Mr. Kobza: The Ritz Carlton leases their sale boats, do they have
to provide a chase boat. Mr. Wheeler has sail boats, does he have
to have a chase boat for those? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: Yes.
Mr. Kobza: Is that practical? Mr. Gulley: It is almost a
necessity safety wise. QUESTION: Mr. Wheeler: There are a
few questions I have on the whole section. Mobile radios - we
have boat concessionaires on both ends of the beach and I am in
the middle, makes 3 concessionaires. Both are radio equipped and
I have an additional chase boat. Is there a need for that radio
equipped chase boat? ANSWER: Mr. Weigel: It is a County
standard required of its own concessionaires. It is already being
imposed on County concessionaires. Mr. Hagerman: I have never had
a problem getting to my people, or had an occasion of anyone
getting lost. I have a method of getting to my people. Should I
be covered by that? Do the chase boats have to be on location,
does that boat have to be sitting on the beach? Mr. Weigel: It
has to be there. Mr. O'Donnell: Concessionaires have to have
chase boats at the park itself and have a radio on board. Mr.
Hagerman: I can get on another sailboat, so I do not feel I
should be required to have a boat if I can get there just as
quick. Mr. McQuillin: It is not only talking about sailboats
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and jet skis, but any vessel is included. I would think a marina
also but it doesn't say anything about it being on the beach. On
the beach or adjoining waters. Mr. Weigel: That is defined as
the bathing area. If rough conditions come up you do not want to
send out a sail boat for a rescue. It will meet the minimum
standards for safety which is already imposed on County
concessionaires. Mr. Gulley: You say you would not put out a
sailboat in rough waters but that is not always true. Mr.
McQuillin: Once again we are only trying to get input - there
will always be differences of opinions. Mr. Hagerman: Jet skis
needing a chase boat - when jet skis are out there being
supervised I do not see a further need for a large chase boat to
supervise them. Mr. McQuillin: We have to take a larger view
of this. We are restricting a lot of small operators from getting
into your territory, but on the other hand you will be required to
perhaps put a little more into it. If we are trying to keep
people from cutting into your territory we will make sure that you
are doing the proper thing also. If we are going to license our
people we want to make sure it is a very safe operation. Mr.
Wheeler: Beach Vendor - must have a permit for operation of that
- Mr. McQuillin: We have made a note of that.
Section 8 - Penalty
Mr. Hagerman: Section 7 Part B, ages 12 - 16. The supervisor
should be a professional and not a Dad or Mom. It is not always
safe, they want to come together and talk.
(Noted that a later draft had been made - latest copy was
distributed. )
Mr. Hagerman: There are probably 30 types of machines that are
being rented, kids are just riding everywhere not supervised, and
a 12 year old is dangerous out there. I do not mind losing money,
I do not want 12 year old kids on it - it should be raised to 16
if it is a rented item. Mr. Kobza: Are there any other changes
in the revised draft? Mr. Mueller: One sentence beginning with
16 years of age and 3 or 4 lines added.
Section 8 - Penalty
Mr. Kobza: Explain how violations such as campfires on the
beach, frisbee, etc. - will there be some type of ticket system?
Mr. Weigel: Uniformed citation system. Mr. Kobza: What does
the enforcement officer do? Mr. Weigel: The officer will write
the ticket. Collier County does not have the luxury of different
tickets citing different infraction areas of this ordinance. You
will get a citation under this ordinance and it will bring a court
date. That is all we can have by law. Violation of this
ordinance under the state law is a misdemeanor and the penalties
are stated here. Mr. Kobza: If someone gets a ticket for a
court date and has been cited for throwing a frisbee, driving a
vessel intoxicated, etc. what is that fine? Mr. Weigel: $500
or 60 days as maximum. There are additional state statues for
driving intoxicated etc. , technically could be charged with a
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couple of laws, but under this ordinance only fined for one. It
is the same as any other County ordinance, $500 or 60 days in
Jail. It is hard to get to court, this ordinance states a code
enforcement board might be utilized. We have such a board coming
on line and if this is a civil board then you would not have a
criminal record. Mr. Kobza: That is what I am getting it -
making people criminals for throwing a frisbee on the beach. Mr.
Weigel: It is a misdemeanor not a felony, so it may be comparable
to jay walking. Mr. Kobza: I would like to see some
differentiation, use of more warning citations especially for less
serious prohibited activities. A warning should be issued as the
first step. Mr. Weigel: It is always within the officer's
discretion. When you have bathers on the beach you might have a
situation when you want to issue a ticket. Sometimes it takes a
few shots to get it across to other people that there is some
enforcement going on. Mr. Gulley: I have had to have the
Sheriff's Department down and I have had yet to see the Sheriff
come in there and write a ticket. 99% of the time the officer
gives a warning, and then if they have to come back again they
would issue a ticket.
Section 9, 10, 11, 12
Mr. Hagerman: Section 7, B - a renter or user shall wear a life
vest. Does that include my 6 passengers in a boat fully equipped
that I have to transport from the shore to the parasail ramp. The
boat is Coast Guard equipped. I do not feel the need to wear the
vests in that situation. Mr. O'Donnell: Passengers are
required to wear them, including the captain. Mr. McQuillin:
There is a lot of difference between commercial operations and
people who want to come in and take business away from you. Mr.
Hagerman: The jackets are there and available, we are only going
out 100 feet. Mr. McQuillin: One hand you are arguing in the
favor of safety that you can provide that someone who is a
wildcatter may not be able to provide. Then on the other hand you
want to cut a fine line in the other direction. Mr. Hagerman: We
are talking about the requirements for being a vendor. Mr.
Mueller: The laws cannot be construed to favor the professionals
and not be applicable to other people. Mr. Hagerman: If any one
else gets a beach vending permit I am saying that I do not think
they should have to put six life jackets on to transport them out.
If they are in an approved Coast Guard boat, and you give them a
license to be a vendor you should follow what you say, but I am
already a vendor. If you give a license to someone else they will
say I will do it, but I have not had to do it and why start now?
Mr. McQuillin: We have to look at the larger picture, we are
eliminating competition and in exchange we are expecting 100%
safety. I do not think you will a lot of sympathy for not wanting
to put life jackets on even though it is a short trip. Mr.
Hagerman: Safety - I think it is an overkill to wear jackets when
they are already on the boat. Mr. Gulley: If you are renting to
someone they should wear the life jacket as well as the captain.
Boats that Ron is talking about are $33 , 000 boats, totally
equipped and are only going from the beach to the platform. Mr.
McQuillin: I just think that you are not going to find a lot of
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sympathy. I want to thank all of you for coming and we need to
make some sort of recommendation. Any more input? Mr. Kobza:
I think those of us on the Board have to mechanically procedural
convey our support for the ordinance to the Board, but also convey
comments that have been made here. I am not completely
comfortable with the current form but we also have to have
something like this so how do we go about doing that? Mr.
Hagerman: Beach Vendors - there is a County beach on Marco Island,
commercial properties like hotels, all have a commercial place to
operate from. Basically I think we are trying to keep away these
Gypsies and other vendors if they do not have a place to operate
from on the beach anywhere. Mr. O'Donnell: That is right. You
will have to get a beach vendor permit and this will prevent
wildcatters from coming in. Mr. Hagerman: Maybe this should be
worded so that they have to operate from a commercial property.
Mr. McQuillin: I would like to get away from this issue. I think
you have to look at the larger picture. There are a lot of people
who would just as soon have gypsies compete with you because a lot
of people feel strongly about the free enterprise system and do
not see anything wrong with an 18 year old hauling in five sail
boards and renting them out. I think you are not looking at the
larger picture and there is a little trade off involved as people
who are going to go along with the ordinance as written are
allowing you to have your concession there and at the same time
they are requiring you to be extra safe. Mr. Gulley: In order to
get a permit you have to have a fixed location? ANSWER: Mr.
O'Donnell: You would have to have an operations office located on
land, a land based location with direct access to the beach. In
your case the Marriott has access to it. The wildcatters will
have to get permission from you or someone else down the line,
people who are doing it in front of the condos will have to get
permission from the particular condo in order to use it for a land
based operation. We had no idea how safe these wildcatters
equipment was, the type of insurance carried or how they were
trained. We had no idea what these people were doing. Mr.
McQuillin: What we are going to do is to go back down parts of
the proposed ordinance and make recommendations.
RECOMMENDATIONS
SECTION I - INTENT AND PURPOSE - APPROVED 4-0
SECTION II - TITLE AND CITATION - APPROVED 4-0
SECTION III - APPLICABILITY
Suggestion by Gil Mueller to insert Sand Dollar Island
under Applicability. Approved 4-0
SECTION IV - DEFINITIONS - APPROVED 4-0
SECTION V - REGULATION OF USE AND CONDUCT ON THE BEACH
Luaus, frisbees, balls, outdoor fires - warnings before
violation. APPROVED 4-0
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Exclude Sub-section "K" 1, 2, 3 , from the above vote. Kim
Kobza abstained from voting. APPROVED 3-0
Mr. Mueller: lighted advertising boat be included in
Section 5 "K" - prohibit use of boat.
Mr. Weigel: Sub-Section 3 , page 7 - Solicitation - beach
definition - Collier County is unincorporated area which
does have jurisdiction three miles out. It is
conceivable this lighted boat does fall within this
sub-section the way it is drafted.
Mr. Stevens: Recognize lighted boat should be considered
under these rules.
SECTION VI - VESSEL REGULATION
Pay attention to sailboat, board lessons, water ski
instructions, jump starts. PART A - APPROVED 4-0
PART B - APPROVED 4-0
PART C - paragraph C - where states " commercial vessels"
change to "commercial fishing vessels" . APPROVED 4-0
SECTION VII - REGULATION OF CONCESSION OPERATIONS, EQUIPMENT RENTALS
AND VENDORS ON THE BEACH AND ADJOINING WATERS
Note: Valid beach vendor needs an occupational license
and vice versa - needs clearing. APPROVED 4-0
SECTION VIII PENALTY
Approve Section Eight in current form except that we also
recommend consideration of possibility of exploring
different penalties for different type of offenses.
APPROVED 4-0
Section IX, X, XI - Approved 4-0
Mr. Kobza: MOTION together with the recommendations submit minutes of
meeting to the Board of County Commissioners so the Board
will have the benefit of all the discussion of the staff
here today and to give the Board sufficient time to
review minutes if they so choose.
Mr. Crawford: I would like to comment. I am not sure that is allowing
sufficient time for staff to meet the time schedule.
They would have to be delivered by Wednesday noon to the
County Manager's desk for his review. We will make every
effort to accomplish it, but it is not allowing much
time.
Mr. Kobza: If the BCC meeting is on the 28th and today is the 21st
you are saying you do think they would be ready for the
meeting?
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Mr. Crawford: The Department secretary has other duties and
responsibilities as well as this. .
Mr. Kobza: Make the motion if possible.
Mr. Mueller: It is not possible - today is Tuesday and it has to be on
the County Manager's desk tomorrow noon.
Mr. O'Donnell: I suggest someone from PARAB plan on attending the
meeting, fill out the slip to speak, and Commissioners
would decide whether or not to make the changes.
Mr. Crawford: Generally a representative may be there to highlight
some of the recommendations by the PARAB, or whatever
Board it may be, if there is differences between what is
recommended to the BCC and what that particular board is
recommending.
Mr. Kobza: I have no quarrel with what you saying there. Sometimes
the Commission has an interest in a particular topic and
is not given enough time to study the recommendations.
It would be difficult in 10 minutes to summarize what we
have addressed here.
Mr. Crawford: It is not uncommon to have a Board . . . .
Mr. Kobza: I am just saying if it can be done.
Mr. Mueller: I intend to attend the meeting - not to speak but if the
opportunity arises to clarify.
Mr. Kobza: I withdraw the motion.
Mr. O'Donnell: Yes, the BCC receives copies of your minutes, a copy
goes to my office, the County Manager, and it is also on
record with the Clerk of Courts recording office.
Meeting adjourned at 11: 25.
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ORDINANCE NO. 81-11
AN ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO THE PUBLIC BEACHES '
AND BEACH ACCESS AREAS OF THE COUNTY;
PROHIBITING THE TAKING OF GLASS CONTAINERS ON
TICE BEACHES AND BEACH ACCESS AREAS; AND
PROVIDING AEI EFFECTIVE DATE.
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. BE IT ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, THAT:
SECTION ONE: . _ _
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accemulating on the beaches and beach access areas of the Count Y• c:� ti.
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SECTION THREE: This Ordinance shall take effect upon receipt of notice.. i •
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PASSED AND DULY ADOPTED by the Board of County Commissioners of
Collier County, Florida, this 3rd day of March 1981.
• I ;ATTEST: _. BOARD OF COUNTY CONNISSIONERS
tifILI1" J. REAGAN, k COLLIER COON Y, FLORIDA
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•'4G ,,,;...,•I; WILLIAM J. REAGAN, Clerk of Courts in and for the Twentieth
Judicial Circuit, Collier County, Florida, do hereby certil
( KMcG/cm/85-F that the foregoing is a true original of:
ORDINANCE NO. 81-11
which was adopted by the Board of County Commissioners
during Regular Session March 3, 1981.
WITNESS my hand and the official seal of the Board of
County Commissioners of Collier County, Florida,Itthis
5th day of March, 1981.
WILLIAM J. REAGAN -�i '::.jv
Clerk of Courts and"CYerkLt?.
This ordinance filed with the Ex officio to Botid •df
Secretary of State's office the S !.,
County Commissioners ,, .�ac-10th day en March, 1981 and re- y � J .
knowledgment of that filing re- 11 l -e�t�f .-•
ceived this 12th day of March,1981. VirginZ:? Magri, "Deputy/ der
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ORDINANCE NO. 85- 6
AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE RELATING TO VESSEL CONTROL AND
WATER SAFETY; PROVIDING FOR INTENT AND PURPOSE;
PROVIDING DEFINITIONS; PROVIDING FOR THE PROHIBITION
OF THE OPERATION OF VESSELS IN EXCESS OF IDLE SPEED
WITHIN A DESIGNATED DISTANCE OFFSHORE FROM ALL BEACHES
AND SHOREFRONT BATHING AREAS; PROVIDING THAT VESSEL
SPEED SHALL NOT EXCEED REASONABLE SPEED UNDER EXISTING
CONDITIONS; PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT; PROVIDING FOR
EXEMPTIONS; PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES; PROVIDING FOR
CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR DECLARATION
OF EMERGENCY; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS, the operation of boats and other watercraft in
excess of idle speed poses a threat to the health, safety and
welfare of swimmers and others who are located offshore from
beaches and shorefront bathing areas; and
WHEREAS, it is necessary that the speed and operation of
boats and watercraft located offshore from beaches and shorefront
bathing areas be controlled in order to protect the health,
safety and welfare of the citizens of Collier County and visitors
to Collier County;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA THAT:
SECTION ONE: INTENT AND PURPOSE
It is the intent and purpose of this Ordinance to
protect and promote the health, safety and welfare of the
citizens of Collier County by the designation of specific areas
within which the operation of vessels may be regulated or
prohibited. It is further intended that this Ordinance be
liberally construed to effect such intent and purpose.
SECTION TWO: DEFINITIONS
For the purposes of this Ordinance, the following words
shall be defined as set forth below:
a. "Vessel" means a motor propelled or artificially
propelled vehicle and every other description of
boat, watercraft, barge, and airboat other than a
seaplane on the water, used or capable of being
used a means of transportation on or in the water,
including jet skis.
b. "Person" means any individual, partnership, firm,
corporation, association, or other entity.
c. "Operate" or "Operation" means to navigate or ,
otherwise use any vessel in or on the water. r `�4%;
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vessel can operate and maintain steering control.
e. "Bather" means any person who is in the same water
as a vessel, whether said person is swimming,
wading or engaged in any other activity in the
water.
1 f. "Bathing area" means any area in which bathers are
located or may be located, whether or not
designated by signs or other form of notification.
SECTION THREE: OPERATION OF VESSEL IN EXCESS OF IDLE SPEED
PROHIBITED
The operation of any vessel, in excess of idle speed,
in or on all waters of the Gulf of Mexico within three hundred
feet (300 feet) offshore from all sandy beaches and shorefront
bathing areas adjacent to inhabited areas or populated areas
is hereby prohibited. Said prohibition shall be effective and
enforceable regardless of whether or not such area is designated
by appropriate sign or notification.
SECTION FOUR: VESSEL SPEED NOT TO EXCEED REASONABLE SPEED
UNDER EXISTING CONDITIONS
Nothing contained in this Ordinance shall be construed
,. to authorize or approve the speed of any vessel in excess of that
which is reasonable and proper under the existing conditions or
circumstances including, but not limited to, the presence of
water skiers, bathers, fishermen, natural hazards or other water
traffic.
SECTION FIVE: ENFORCEMENT
The provisions of this Ordinance shall be enforced by
members of any duly authorized law enforcement agency having
jurisdiction in Collier County, Florida.
SECTION SIX: EXEMPTIONS
The following shall be exempted from the provisions of
this Ordinance:
a. The provisions of this Ordinance shall not be
construed to prohibit the operation, racing or
exhibition of boats or other vessels during a
publicly announced, properly authorized,
supervised and adequately patrolled regatta,
speed trial or exhibition.
b. The operators of Law Enforcement or rescue vessels
or vessels operating under emergency conditions
shall be exempted from the provisions of this
Ordinance while cgnducting official duties or ,-.,,.
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provisions of this ordinance while conducting fish
netting operations, provided the operations are
conducted in a safe and prudent manner and in
accordance with Section Four, VESSEL SPEED NOT TO
I EXCEED REASONABLE SPEED UNDER EXISTING CONDITIONS.
i Under no circumstances, however, shall commercial
1 vessels be operated at greater than idle speed
within three hundred feet (300 feet) of bathers.
SECTION SEVEN: PENALTY
IAny vessel owner, vessel operator, person in command of
any vessel, or any other person who violates the provisions of
this Ordinance or fails to comply with the requirements of this
' Ordinance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction
thereof, shall be fined or imprisoned, or both, as provided by
law, and in addition shall pay all costs and expenses incurred in
`' the prosecution of such violation. In addition, and as an
alternative means of enforcement, Collier County may enforce the
provisions or requirements of this Ordinance by means of any
available civil remedy in a court of competent jurisdiction.
SECTION EIGHT: CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY
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In the event this Ordinance conflicts with any other
ordinance of Collier County or other applicable law, the more
restrictive shall apply. If any phrase or portion of this
Ordinance is held invalid or unconstitutional by any court of
competent jurisdiction, such portion shall be deemed a separate,
distinct and independent provision and such holding shall not
affect the validity of the remaining portion.
SECTION NINE: DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY
This Board does hereby declare that an emergency exists and
that immediate enactment of this Ordinance is necessary, and by
no less than four-fifths (4/5ths) vote of the membership of the
Board does hereby waive notice of intent to consider this ` %,,' -
Ordinance.
A certified copy of this Ordinance, as enacted, shall be
filed by the Clerk of the Board with the Department of State of
the State of Florida, as soon after enactment as is practicable
by depositing the same with the postal authorities of the i`
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State.
SECTION TEN: EFFECTIVE DATE
This ordinance shall become effective as provided by law.
PASSED AND DULY ADOPTED by the Board of County Commissioners
1 of Collier County, Florida, this 15th day of January 19 85_.
DATED: January 15, 1985 BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
ATTEST:
\\WIL 4,I7., R , Clerk
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J. VOSS, Chairman
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` IennethB. Cuyler
Assistant County A torney
STATE OF FLORIDA )
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I, WILLIAM J. REAGAN, Clerk of Courts in and for the Twentieth Judicial '
Circuit, Collier County, Florida, do hereby certify that the foregoing is a
true original of:
ORDINANCE NO. 85-6
which was adopted by the Board of County Commissioners via emergency procedure
during Regular Session the 15th day of January, 1985.
WITNESS my hand and the official seal of the Board of County Commissioners
of Collier County, Florida, this 15th day of January, 1985.
WILLIAM J. REAGAN
Clerk of Courts and Clerk
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