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DSAC Minutes 05/01/2002 RMay 1, 2002 DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE 2800 NORTH HORSESHOE DRIVE CONFERENCE ROOM "E" NAPLES, FL 34104 MINUTES MAY 1, 2002 3:30 PM Chairman Dino Longo called the meeting to order at 3:31 P.M. ATTENDANCE: Members: Dalas Disney, Robert Duane, Marco Espinar, Blair Foley, Brian Jones, Dino Longo, Justin Mart/n, Thomas Masters, Brian Milk, and Herbert Savage. Excused: C. Perry Peeples Absent: Charles Abbott, Thomas Peek, Anthony Pires Jr., and Peter Van Arsdale Staff Members: Ronald Scott-Transportation Planning, Norman Feder- Transportation Adm., George Yalmaz-Solid Waste, Denny Baker-Business Mgr., Tom Kuck-Engineer Director, Patrick White-Asst. Co. Attorney, Ed Perico, and Joe Schmitt Public: Jeff Perry-Wilson Miller APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Under IV.Old Business - A. Land Development Code was added. Dalas Disney moved to approve Agenda with addition, Seconded Tom Masters, Carried. II. III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: March 7, 2002 Robert Duane moved to approve Minutes of March 7, 2002, Seconded Brian, and Carried. Justin Martin moved to approve Minutes of April 3, 2002, Seconded Tom Masters, and Carried. STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS: A. Transportation Division Update - Norm Feder stated that in the Land Development Code, a process of identifying growth has been discussed. They are in the process right now of identifying some growth management changes and making modifications to land development. In Transportation the State Statutes use a 5-year Plan, Collier County uses a 3-year Plan. He states they at everything vested and especially the checkbook. HUD, site plans need to look and rezoning needs to be addressed and resolved. He felt since the referendum failed on the halfpenny he might get a higher percentage of people to vote for a proposed moratorium. An informational sheet (% of Segment Capacity vs. Existing Plus Committed and Requested Traffic) was handed out to all committee members giving them an idea of where they are on projects in conjunction with the checkbook and the assumption of capacity on particular roadways. Mr. Feder stated he has insufficient funds and basically the checkbook is bankrupt. Need to open up another checkbook. A synopsis of "when is my paycheck going to arrive in my account" was discussed. He stated if they don't have construction in a 5 year work program then they need to stop backlogging that facility, & in this IV. Vo May 1, 2002 case backlog with 10% annual growth on a first come - first serve basis. After a lengthy statement Norm Feder summarized it by saying he is trying to equate the items basically where they are on the situation today, where they are relative to the program project and where they are with the capacity that they have on that facility on the report. The "NOTE" at the bottom of the handout states: Segments may be designated as physically constrained (maximum lane standards) or politically constrained regardless of checkbook balance by action of the BCC upon recommendation of Transportation Administrator. Dalas asked a question of what percentage of funds are derived from the Impact Fees. Norm stated about 50%. Dalas then stated, if construction closed down they would be pulling from ad volurem taxes in order to maintain the same process. Mr. Feder agreed. Another question asked was if there were any rezoning application areas of desperation. Mr. Feder stated, "yes" on the next Board agenda an establishment of a moratorium on 3 segments will be discussed for projects that will not have funding. 1) Davis Blvd.between Radio Road and 951 2) USA 41 between Pine Ridge and Golden Gate Parkway and 3) Vanderbilt Beach Road west of 41 and 41 and Gulf Shore Drive. Discussion followed on the above concern and traffic concerns as well. Jeff Parry - Wilson Miller - stated a few years back the residents on Vanderbilt Beach Road asked not have their road a 4 lane. They knew it was congested, but did not want landscape taken out etc. Growth management and politically controlling the growth was discussed. Mr. Feder reminded everyone it is a public roadway as well as an evacuation route. Jeff Parry stated that if the County is willing to go forward with the widening of the roadway there may be some merit in suggesting that there has to be a moratorium in the meantime, but until there is an affirmative opinion of the property owners that they' re willing to widen the roadway to 4 lanes, he thinks it is wrong to suggest a moratorium is in order when the County walked right into it. He feels it is unfair. Jeff Parry is saying they brought it upon themselves, so should live with it. Policy decisions and policies changing along with keeping traffic moving and safety issues were of concern and discussed. B. Public Utilities Division Update: George Yalmaz could report on solid waste problems but the committee decided they had a report previous therefore George did not have anything new to report at this time. OLD BUSINESS A. Land Development Code - Robert Duane wants a report for their Sub- Committee on the status of getting the Land Development Code to the Municipal Code Corp. and online due to some of the supplements being behind and he wants to know if the items they adopted 6 or 8 months ago are on the books and what has been done. Mr. White said he had a copy of the report in his office at this time. They are available for public distribution. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS: A. Land Development Regulation (Bob Duane) - None C. Utility Code (Thomas Masters) - Minutes were handed out and attached. B. Construction Code (Dino Longo)-None May 1, 2002 Ad Hoc Committee on Fees - Dino Longo reported there was a presentation from the Health Dept. on pools and changing their language on commercial pools and inspections on commercial pools. The Health Dept. is going back and changing the language to amend the ordinances to conform to what it should be. They will be back to the committee next week. The second part of the presentation was on the new building. The parking garage has been reduced from 40,000 sq. ft to approx. 20,000 sq. ft. A building presentation was given last month. It has been designed to hold services unrelated to development services. They didn't get through the whole presentation as the funding issue was discussed at length. The building is going forward, the question is monies being used for the building and what services will be occupying the building. It was his understanding in the beginning that it was an opportunity for Ed to expand his departments, bring more people in and offer more improved services for development. The subject of renting space was discussed. The bottom line is it will be used for other services than what they expected. The County will determine the rent rates. Dalas Disney asked what legitimately is being paid out of Fund 113, and whether getting paid rent or not, why is the 113 Fund subsidizing construction which has nothing to do with portions of this operation. The committee viewed drawings of the proposed concept, floor plan and different department layouts. Discussion followed on opinions of local monies staying local, and more confusion on the 113 Fund payments. Dino Longo stated his understanding of the 113 Fund and concerns is they are at their limit with the reserves, taking 4 M out, a shortage on the permit revenue side and building buildings and staffing them. The permit revenues are suppose to be used for things that relate directly to permit issues or development services. Dino Longo would rather see them lower the permit fees, get the reserves down, ship money over to the planning side, hire persons that are needed, get things out on a timely basis, and have better communications between Transportation and Utilities. Dalas Disney moved to request staff to identify the 113 Fund, what it is suppose to pay for, and that the committee get an accounting of the percentage of funds that are contributed from other than 113 Funds to pay for the entire project, which is the expansion of the Development Services building project. Seconded Robert Duane, a lengthy discussion followed. Carried unanimously. Patrick White gave a report on a FEMA meeting and stated he did not have any answers yet. Justin Martin (a new member) asked what the issue is that is being reported on. Dino Disney stated approx. 3 years ago there were 3 County ordinances on hold - there is a dispute on the Coastal Set-backs and Flood Elevation methodology of FEMA. The City of Naples, County and Marco Island consolidated their data to refute FEMA's data. They are not agreeing to the flood elevations from the coast in and most of Collier County. They determine their elevations on transects. The consultant has challenged those things and they have received thousand and thousands of pages of a report and are almost due for a restudy. It may be compromised, but the committee may ask the Board of County Commissioners for a recommendation of what to do. Whether there may be a lawsuit or not is not known at this time. Patrick White stated there are 3 things to do: 1) talk about it and work it out 2) Ask other agencies to tell us what they think (arbitration) and 3) Litigation 3 May 1,2002 NEW BUSINESS - None COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS: One comment was they appreciated Transportation (Mr. Feder) attending the meeting and giving the report on the detail of what is being proposed. Comments consisted of ad volurem taxes, rents for the upcoming building, changes in comprehensive planning for the County and Mr. White stating they are not shutting down the County, there is still plenty of work for everyone. Dino Longo said they have to be careful in planning for the future and the possibility of raising impact fees. There should be a contingency plan in place. There is a political push to possibly shut the County down. Dino Longo states they don't realize the impact it could have economically. It could mean approx. 7-8,000 jobs lost. A rally will be held at the courthouse sponsored by CBIA on May 14th. A possible 1,500 people are expected to be there. Dino Longo encouraged all to attend. Meeting adjourned at 5:20 P.M. 4