05/18/1984 Agenda PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
MAY 18, 1984
AGENDA
The Parks and Recreation Advisory Board meeting will be held on
Friday, May 18th at 3:00 P.M. on the 3rd Floor of Building F, (front
section of Commissioner's meeting room) at the Collier County Court-
house.
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Minutes - April 25, 1984
III. Addenda
IV. Old Business
A. Update report from Tom Peek
B. Update report from Pat Carroll re: North Naples and Immokalee
C. Discussion of Marco Park and lights for Winterberry ballfield
V. New Business
A. Discussion of Golden Gate Park - John Agnelli
VI. Discussion of Addenda
VII. Adjournment
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Naples, Florida, April 25, 1984
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Parks & Recreation
Advisory Board met on this date at 2: 15 P.M. in Building "F"
of the Courthouse Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Anne Goodnight
Richard Myers
Dan Monaco
Hank Caballero
James Stackpoole
ALSO PRESENT: Maureen Kenyon, Deputy Clerk ; and Rollie
Rice, Parks & Recreation Director.
AGENDA
I. Call to Order
II. Approval of Minutes - March 16, 1984
III. Addenda
IV. Old Business
A. Update Report from Tom Peek
V. New Business
A. Discussion of Marco Island Survey
VI. Discussion of Addenda
VII. Adjournment
MINUTES OF MARCH 16, 1984 - APPROVED AS CORRECTED
Mr. Monaco moved, seconded by Mr. Myers and carried
unanimously, that the minutes of March 16, 1984, be approved
with the following corrections:
a. That the minutes reflect that Mr . Monaco was not
present.
b. That Mr . Myers made the motion to adjourn and not
Mr. Monaco.
c. That Page 5 reflect that Mr . Norton spoke regarding
Pelican Bay and not Mr. Monaco.
AGENDA - APPROVED
Mr. Caballero moved, seconded by Mr. Monaco and carried
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unanimously, that the agenda for the meeting be approved.
OLD BUSINESS — REPORT FROM TOM PEEK
Mr. Peek of Wilson, Miller, Barton, Soll & Peek, Inc.
stated that he is proceeding with the Golden Gate and East
Naples Phase I element from the design standpoint. He stated
that he is anticipating having a clearing and grading plan
completed on both of the sites within two weeks. He noted
that the one for the East Naples site will go to the Water
Management Advisory Board meeting for review and approval in
June and if the Board of County Commissioners will let him go
to bid, he should be able to put those two projects out for
bid by early July or August. He reported that the BCC had
indicated that they would not authorize any expenses until
all the parks are purchased and they have a division of
money, adding that this particular item needs to occur in
order for him to move forward. He noted that this is a
critical point as he needs to know what items can be included
in the parks for design purposes. He stated that East Naples
and Golden Gate were approved a few months ago, adding that
he is moving forward with the designs as he knows what items
are to be included in those parks. He reported that on Marco
Island, he is standing still and has been since it was
determined that a new inventory would be made of the Island
regarding the wishes of the community. He stated that on the
Immokalee site he gave the Chairman the proposals on the
Master Plan and needs information back on the Master Plan as
well as Phase I items for construction. He reported that on
North Naples, until a site is purchased, no work can be done.
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Mr. Caballero stated that in reference to the motocross
at Golden Gate, he would like to see in writing from the
motocross committee that they are interested in the land at
the Golden Gate site and will maintain it. He stated that if
there is nothing in writing and the plans fall through, it
would make a difference in the design plans for the park,
adding that, it is necessary to get some type of a commitment
from that committee immediately. Mr. Rice indicated that he
would take care of this matter .
Mr. Monaco questioned the status of the North Naples
park site, to which Mr. Rice indicated that the site is
adjacent to the sewer treatment plant and is rectangular in
shape. Mr. Rice stated that he is trying to deal with
Pelican Bay in relations to a piece of property the County
owns in Pelican Bay which is 15 acres. He stated that he is
trying to negotiate with Pelican Bay in hopes that they will
help with the purchase of the North Naples site. He stated
that, hopefully, by the middle of June, it will be settled.
He stated that the BCC also needs to be approached as far as
some type of formula for the division of money before they go
on vacation so that things can keep moving .
Mr. Peek indicated that the Parks & Recreation Advisory
Board should send a letter to the BCC indicating that they
make a decision on the split of the money so that everything
can keep moving in the right direction.
Mr. Monaco moved, seconded by Mr. Caballero and carried
unanimously, that the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board send
a letter to the BCC indicating that it is important for them
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to reach a decision on the split of the money for the parks
as soon as possible so that the first phase construction
priority items can be determined and the process can continue
to move forward.
Mrs. Goodnight indicated to Mr . Peek that on the
Immokalee park issue, it will be taken care of within the
next few weeks and she would report back to him.
NEW BUSINESS - DISCUSSION OF THE MARCO ISLAND SURVEY
Mr . Jim Stackpoole stated that a poll was taken on Marco
Island asking for residents' preferences for facilities to be
included in the park site. He noted that The Marco Island
Civic Association and the Marco Island Taxpayer's Association
formed a joint committee to poll the residents. He indicated
that the overall preference was for a community center. He
read a letter which was prepared by him with the first
paragraph reading , " I herewith submit a letter dated April 2,
1984, from the joint committee of the Marco Island Civic
Association and the Marco Island Taxpayers Association
setting forth the results of the Marco Island Registered
Voters Poll indicating preference for the Marco Island park
site facility. In that the community center represents a new
direction, I recommend that the consulting firm of Wilson,
Miller, Barton, Soll & Peek, have their representative meet
with members of this joint committee to begin design of the
desired community center. " He stated that the Island would
like to move forward with a community center, adding that he
thinks that it is a good idea.
Mr. Stackpoole moved, seconded by Mrs. Goodnight and
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carried unanimously, that a letter be sent to the BCC
indicating that a representative of the firm of Wilson,
Miller, Barton, Soll & Peek met with the joint committee of
the Marco Island Taxpayer's Association and the Marco Island
Civic Association to begin design of the desired community
center.
Mr . Stackpoole stated that the next item is in regards
to the offer for the racquetball club, adding that it states,
"Having reviewed the proposal of Mr . Chris Blunt to convey
the Marco Island Racquet Club to Collier County for the
assumption of outstanding debt and having discussed this
proposal with the joint committee representatives, Mr. Arvid
Johnson and Mr. Ed Clark, it is my recommendation that the
Board of County Commissioners accept Mr. Blunt's proposal for
acquisition, if in the County staff' s opinion, the facility
will be self-sustaining through user fees and the acquisition
can be accomplished without use of any portion of Marco
Island's share of the Parks and Recreation bond. The
mortgage holder, First Bank of Marco Island N/A, should allow
Collier County to assume Mr. Blunt's position at no cost
since the loan then becomes tax free to the lending
institution. " He stated that this has been discussed with
the President of First Bank of Marco Island N/A.
Mr. Rice indicated that this feasibility study on the
Marco Island Racquet Club is going to be presented to the BCC
on May 1 , 1984 .
Mr. Stackpoole moved, seconded by Mr. Caballero and
carried unanimously, that a letter from the Parks &
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Recreation Advisory Board be sent to the BCC requesting that
the Marco Island Racquet Club be acquired as long as the
feasibility study shows that it is self—sustaining based on
user fees and without County funds or Marco Island's portion
of the bond.
Mr . Stackpoole stated that the final issue is a moral or
ethical issue which states , " In the interest of equity, it is
requested that the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board
recognize the donation of the Marco Island Park site by
recommending that the Collier County Commission adopt a fair
share formula for the division of the County Park Bonds.
Marco Islanders will pay over 28% of the total park bond and
are asking far less in return. I hereby recommend a formula
which would total the purchase prices of the other four
district parks , divide that total by four arriving at an
average park purchase price, then credit Marco Island with an
amount equal to the average park purchase price and divide
the remainder equally upon the five districts. " He stated
that in essence this would give Marco Island 20% of the
money.
Mrs. Goodnight stated that there has also been 14 acres
donated in Immokalee, adding that to a certain extent she can
agree with the people of Marco, but she represents the people
of Immokalee and they will not agree to this.
Mr. Monaco stated that he thinks it should be whether or
not there is an equal facility within each park area, not how
it is divided.
Mr . Caballero stated that the ones that will get hurt
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are Golden Gate and East Naples, adding that everything has
to be purchased and no one is donating anything to Golden
Gate or East Naples. He stated that the parks should be
equal in facilities.
Mr . Peek stated that the original recommendation to the
BCC months ago was that the money be split five ways after
acquisition of all land.
Mr. Stackpoole stated that he feels that this is not
fair to Marco Island and moved that the distribution be
adopted by the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board and
recommended to the BCC that, after the purchase of all four
parks, the total be divided by four and Marco Island will be
credited with an equal amount and the remainder then be
divided by five. There being no second, the motion died.
Mr. Stackpoole stated that this formula would be
equitable and should be applied to all parks throughout the
County.
Mr. Monaco stated that this position would be beneficial
to the North Naples park also, adding that he, however, fails
to see the equality for distribution throughout the County.
Mr. Peek stated that another formula would be to take
the $8 million bond and subject the bonding cost, subject the
consultant fee, and take the balance and divide it five ways ,
and let each site pay for what it wants to buy after they
purchase their land .
Mr. Myers stated that the parks should service a certain
number of people and if a park is put in a certain location
that serves 15% for example, then 15% of the bond money
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should be given to that park, adding that the parks are a
people service.
Mr . Stackpoole stated for the record that he will make a
minority vote to appeal to the BCC at the appropriate time
regarding an equitable distribution.
Mrs. Goodnight stated that Immokalee has 14 acres that
were donated and there are certain people that believe that
there should be money left over to purchase the additional 40
acres of land that has been offered to the County.
Mr. Rice stated that a recommendation could be given to
the BCC with various formulas.
Mr. Stackpoole stated that there should be a workshop
held to work out a formula and to have Mr . Rice give a
presentation on how the sites were determined throughout the
County. He noted that this formula needs to be presented to
the Board of County Commissioners before they go on vacation
in June.
It was the general consensus that a workshop be held
April 26, 1984, at 1: 30 P.M. in Building "F" of the
Courthouse Complex.
There being no further business, the meeting was
adjourned at 3: 35 P.M.
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
Anne Goodnight, Chairman
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