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08/19/1983 Minutes Naples, Florida, August 19, 1983 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board met on this date at 1 : 30 P.M. in Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex in East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Vince Murphy Hank Caballero Ann Goodnight Glen Tucker ABSENT: Dan Monaco ALSO PRESENT: Maureen Kenyon, Deputy Clerk and Rollie Rice, Parks & Recreation Director. AGENDA I. Call to Order II . Approval of Minutes III. Addenda IV. Old Business V. New Business A. Presentation of preliminary park design for East Naples t Tom Peek B. Discussion of allocation of funds for develop- ment of facilities. VI. Discussion of Addenda VII. Adjournment MINUTES OF JULY 15, 1983 APPROVED AS PRESENTED It was the general consensus that the minutes of July 15, 1983 , be approved as presented. PRESENTATION OF PRELIMINARY PARK DESIGN FOR EAST NAPLES PARK Mr. John Simmons, Planner for Wilson, Miller, Barton, Soli & Peek, Inc. stated that it is a privilege to be able to work on this park system. He stated that he has looked at the sites and is very much in agreement with what has been Page 1 Parks & Recreation Advisory Board August 19 , 1983 selected to date . There was a slide presentation showing Ogelby Park in West Virginia in order to show ideas of what a park could look like. Mr . Simmons indicated that Ogelby Park is 150'0 acres which is an entirely different kind of site and park , adding that there are things in it that would be interesting to see as to what a community park could look like. He indicated that this park is 100% self-,sufficient. Various slides were shown of recreational activities that could be used in parks , such as picnic areas, covered sheds for shelter , areas that are used to hold plays or outdoor entertainment, small craft areas, minature golf, paddle boats, canoes, small tyke playground, swimming pool , administration building , amphitheater , softball , baseball , tennis courts, trees for shade around lakes and picnic areas , pet farm, bird exhibits, concessions. Mr. Simmons indicated on slides of the present Fast Naples park site what could be located in certain areas. He noted that the Fast Naples park will be a good park for water activities as there will be a six acre lake and paddle boats and canoes could be used with an hourly rate being charged. He stated that concession should be of high quality and controlled by the park group, adding that the prices will be high but the quality will be good which will maintain the quality or the park. He reported that when the park is constructed good quality material should be used in order to maintain the park with ease and little maintenance. Page 2 Parks & Recreation Advisory Board August 19 , 1983 Mr. Simmons stated that the East Naples site is flat and not much in the way of vegetation which is good as there is no environmental concerns, adding that the lake will enhance the park but trees will have to be planted. He noted that there is a bailfield on the park site which can he extended to a regulation bailfield without much problem, adding that there will be tennis courts. He noted that there is a drainage ditch and a big berm around the property at Fast Naples which could be used for a jogging trail. He noted that there are some nice pines where the entrance road could be located, adding that the water is very close to the surface on the entire site and there will be a need for a good water management system. He indicated that he had a conceptual diagram of what could be placed within the park and by placing it over the survey he asked the members for their ideas and concerns. A general discussion took place around the center table to discuss any concerns or ideas regarding the East Naples park site. Mr. Simmons indicated that there should be a major entrance with one way in and one way out for control of the park. He noted that the lake would be better than 6 acres ranging in depth from 5 to 10 feet with an average depth of 8 feet. He noted that the parking area would have room to park 300 cars in a central area that would be convenient to the activities. There was various discussion as to where activities could be located within the park site. There was general discussion regarding the tennis courts being on the Page 3 Parks & Recreation Advisory Board August 19 , 1983 school property, with Rollie Rice indicating that this is something that would have to be discussed with the School Board. Mr. Rice indicated that guidelines and a policy would have to be established with the school by sitting down with the principle of the school. There was general discussion regarding the parking areas and where they should be located . Mr. Murphy indicated that with the budget constraints a basic park is being looked at with the potential for growth in the future . Mr. Rice indicated that the needed facilities will have to come first, adding that the first priority from East Naples other than the priorities items was a community center. He stated that there would probably be less than a million to spend on each park after they are all ready to begin construction. He reported that the East Naples site would probably take about S200,000 to dig the lake and do the groundwork to bring the elevation of the land up to a point where it can be built on. He stated that it would be easier for the members if there was a clear overlay of the basic facilities for the park and then another overlay which shows the future expansion when more money is available. There was general discussion regarding the paddle boats being used on the lake with the idea that this would work well , but does not need to be within the first phase of the project . ® There was general discussion regarding a Master Plan, and Rollie Rice indicated that there would be a Master Plan Page 4 Parks & Recreation Advisory Board August 19 , 1983 for all the parks as it would be needed if he were to file for grant money for the parks at any time. DISCUSSION OF ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF FACILITIES Mr. Peek of Wilson, Miller, Barton, Soll , & Peek, Inc. , stated that in his meeting with the County Manager , there was discussion regarding the allocation of the funds, to which Mr. Peek indicated that County Manager Norman would like this board to give some consideration for establishing a means for dividing the funds between the five parks. Mr. Rice indicated that there needed to be some type of policy set for the allocation of the funds for the construction of the parks after the acquisition of same. Mr. Tucker indicated that the people of Marco Island felt that they should receive 1/5 of the 88 million as their share . Mr. Murphy indicated that the general consensus has been that the Bond Issue was for the purchase of four park sites and development of five in order that each park will be equal upon completion, adding that the money is to buy land to create parks and what money is left will be divided by five to create equal parks investment wise. Mr. Rice indicated that the East Naples site is $615 ,000, the Golden Gate site 8600 ,000 , the site in North Naples will be approximately $800,000 and the Immokalee site will be approximately $500 ,000, which makes approximately $2.5 million for four sites. He noted that the debt service on the Bond Issue will have to be paid, leaving approximately Page 5 Parks & Recreation Advisory Board August 19 , 19S3 $900,000 for each of the five sites to be used for construction purposes. Mr. Caballero moved, seconded by Ms. Goodnight and carried 3/1 , (Glen Tucker opposed) , that the recommendation of the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board is that the formula for the $8 million Parks Bond issue shall be as follows: (a) That sufficient funds to acquire four park sites (Golden Gate, East Naples, North Naples, and Immokalee) be spent as the County Commmission shall direct, and (b) That after acquisition of the four park sites, remaining funds shall be divided equally among the five park sites. MOTORCROSS BICYCLE CLUB Mrs. Marjory Parady stated that the National Bicycle Club for Bicycle Motorcross racing would like to have five acres of the Golden Gate park site for a motorcross bicycle track. She presented a copy of a design, adding that this sport is competitive racing with no formal training. She stated that the National Bicycle Club has been in existence for 6 to 8 years. She noted that the track is run by the parents and children and would benefit a lot of children in the Golden Gate area. She indicated that this track would be of no cost to the County and there have been commitments for materials and supplies if the track can be built on the Golden Gate park site . She indicated that there would have to be parking, benches for parents and spectators, and a loading and unloading area. She stated that there would be a rail around the track so that it would not be able to be used Page 6 Parks & Recreation Advisory Board August 19 , 1983 by ATC' s or other type vehicles, adding that the children would have to lift their bicycles over the rail . Mr. Rice questioned if the National Bicycle Club would want sole position of and utilization of the track or if the public would be able to use it, to which Mrs. Parady stated that it would be for the public but scheduled races would be held at certain times. Mr. Rice noted that if the facility is built it would have to be approved by the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board as well as the Board of County Commissioners. Mr . Peek stated that if the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board elects to do this in any of the Parks he would like Mrs. Parady to give him a diagram that shows the dimensions so that he will know how much land will have to be set aside and if there is latitude in the way its shaped. Mr. Tucker moved, seconded by Ms. Goodnight and carried 3/0, (Mr. Caballero out of the room) , that the Bicycle Motorcross Track be implemented in the Golden Gate park site with the National Bicycle Club building it at no cost to the County. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business to come before the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board, the meeting was adjourned by Order of the Chair - Time : 3: 45 P.M. PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD Vince Murphy, Chairman Page 7