07/15/1983 Minutes 4 Naples, Florida, Jubl 15, 1983
Let it be remembered, that the Parks & Recreation
Advisory Board met on this date at 9 : 05 A.A . in building "F"
of the Courthouse Complex , East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present :
VICE-CHAIRMAN : Anne Goodnight
Glen Tucker
Hank Caballero
ABSENT: Vince Murphy, Chairman
Dan Monaco
ALSO PRESENT: Elinor M. Skinner, Deputy Clerk; Rollie
Rice, Parks & Recreation Director ; Cindy Faulkner , Real
Property Manager and Pat Carroll , Planning & Contracts
Engineer.
AGENDA
1 . Call to Order
11. Approval of Minutes
III. Adenda
IV. Old Business
A. Status of Golden Gate Property
B. Status of Park Property on Marco
V. New Business
A. Beach Accesses
VI. Discussion of Addenda
VIII. Adjournment
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MAY 10, 1983
Mrs. Anne Goodnight called the meeting to order in the
absence of Mr . Murphy, Chairman.
Mr. Caballero moved, seconded by Mr. Tucker and carried
3/0, that the minutes of May 10, 1983, be approved as
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presented.
MR. GLENN TUCKER'S REPORT ON STATUS OF PARK PROPERTY ON MARCO
ISLAND
Mr . Glenn Tucker referred to his report dated July 13,
1953, to Parks & Recreation Director Rollie Rice setting
forth the preferences of Marco for the development of the
Marco Island Park. He said referred to a discussion with
Commissioner John Pistor and said that he is confident that
Collier County is in possession of a deed for 2. 5 acres for a
park site. He indicated the area on a map and reviewed the
background of this situation. He said he has been in contact
with Deltona Corporation constantly, and on July 13, 1983,
Commissioner Pistor and he had a meeting with Mr . Jim
Stackpoole, the new President for Del-Marco Corporation, a
reorganization. He said that Commissioner Pistor has a
letter from Mr. Stackpoole confirming Deltona is doing the
survey and preparing the deed. He explained that, in
addition to the 2. 5 acres of property, Deltona have said that
the Corporation can add 80 feet on two sides of the property
that will result in a total of approximately 2-1/2 to 4
acres. He said that even though a deed will not be available
to Collier County for the remainder of the property, the
Marco Island Park group would like the Master Plan to include
the gymatorium on that 2. 5 parcel of land for which the deed
is confirmed. He said his group is now in the position to
report to the BCC that Marco Island has land available to
build on, provided the County can design a Master Plan on the
wow-
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property he indicated on the map.
Mrs. Goodnight said it was her understanding , after the
County bought the land , that the money would be divided five -
ways. Mr . Rice said that it is up to the discretion of the
board of County Commissioners how to utilize the money. Mr.
Rice reviewed his conversation with Commissioner Pistor and
iir . Stackpoole with regard to PUD approval . Mr. Tucker
clarified that Deltona is required to develop a park site .
he said that the 2.5 acre site is a separate agreement. He
said that that deed is confirmed and the only condition is
that the property would house a community building of some
kind. He explained the problem of deeding is that Deltona
needs access to the property and , therefore, that corporation
needs complete control of the property in order- to fulfill
their obligations. He said there will be minimal items
placed on the property, such as some landscaping , picnic
tables, possibly a ballfield, and. a tot lot. Responding to
Mr . Rice, Mr . Tucker said he could see no reason why Deltona
could not be held to implement the parking lot.
Mr . Tom Peek, of Wilson, Miller , Barton, Soil & Peek,
explained that his firm needs to know the budget available
because the size will depend on the dollars available. He
said that the identification of the land and the additional
land means his firm now knows where, in the Master Plan, the
building will be located . He asked for Mr. Tucker 's group to
give more detail regarding the ultimate size of the building .
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Mr. Tucker said that he would put this information in =
writing later. He said his group is contemplating a large
gymnasium-size building , with a small stage and small
kitchen. he said that the kitchen would not be for food
preparation, rather for catering .
STATUS REPORT OF GOLDEN GATE PROPERTY
Ms. Pat Carroll reported that the BCC decided to acquire
parcel 9 in Golden Gate, which is owned by Mr. Bill Higgs.
She said that property was previously the No . 1 site. She
said a finalized agreement has not been reached, however,
agreement on the basic terms has been reached . Ms. Carroll
said that she will meet with County Attorney Saunders this
date and that she would like to be able to execute an
agreement within a week or two. She said that after the
agreement is executed, in her opinion, the site is "tied
downs and the site can be referred to the Engineering
Department for the initial work. She said that the price
involves $17, 500 an acre and the total amount will depend on
whether the County buys 32 acres or 38 acres. She described
her department ' s desire to align a road that is a boundary to
the south of the park. She said this would increase the
acreage for the park. She explained the situation regarding
the land-locked parcel of land in the area, following the
State of Florida acquisition of property for 1-75.
STATUS OF NORTH NAPLES PARK SITE
Ms. Carroll reported that appraisers have been contacted
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for an appraisal on the site and this process will take
approximately three weeks. She explained this is property in
26, which is the section of property at the corner of
Immokalee Road and Airport Road. She reviewed the identifi-
cation of the first two sites. She said the County has the
opportunity to buy 35 to 40 acres, up to 90 acres. She said
the decision regarding purchase of acres has not been made,
although she wants the County to buy 90 acres. She said that
the money for the 35 acres would come from the Bond issue.
She said additional money would come from utilities and other
departments.
STATUS OF IMMOKALEE PARK SITE
Ms. Carroll reported she has been working with
Supervisor of Elections Mary Morgan trying to establish
boundaries on the site in Immokalee. Mr. Rice noted that Ms.
Carroll needs some help in the Immokalee area from Mrs.
Goodnight.
Mrs. Goodnight raised the question of the need for park
property in the immediate Immokalee area. She said that in
an earlier report regarding the land, that there is a piece
of land on C.R. 846, next to South Immokalee School . A long
discussion reviewed all the complex issues regarding this
site. Mr. Tucker put the situation into the prospective that
the continual problems over this site is at the public
expense. He encouraged Mrs. Goodnight to continue her hard
work on the topic. There were opinions given from those
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present to the effect that Ms. Carroll would make a report
incorporating some of the items discussed for presentation to
the board of County Commissioners. Mr. Tucker suggested that
good public relations could be fostered with the aid of area
newspapers. Various parcels of property were discussed with
regard to the need of a park site for those persons who would
be unable to drive to a park some distance from Immokalee.
Mrs. Goodnight praised the people with whom she has talked
regarding some of the problems. She expressed her opinion
that most people are aware of the need for a local park site.
Mr. Rice pointed out that Federal grant money is
available for help in local projects. However, he pointed
out that government money is not forthcoming where clear
divisions are evident. He expressed the need, for work in
Immokalee in the public relations aspect. Mrs. Goodnight
reported on the various civic organizations with whom she has
discussed the situation.
MR. TUCKER'S REPORT RE BEACH ACCESSES IN CONNORS VANDERBILT
BEACH AREA
Mr . Glenn Tucker referred to the backup material he
provided the members and referred to a July 7, 1963 letter
written by him, as counsel to the Beach Access - Conners
Vanderbilt Beach Estates, to Chairman Kruse. He referred to
a letter written by him to Commissioner Voss regarding the
same subject; also, the August 6, 1980 memo written by Parks
Director Rice to County Manager Norman re Vanderbilt Beach
Accesses. He referred to two legal documents identifying the
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easements in question and marked #2, #3, and #4. He referred
to an additional legal aocument with an easement identified
as #5. He explained the background of this situation and -
noted that he would be presenting the situation to the BCC on
August 2, 1933 .
DISCUSSION OF ADDENDA
Responding to Mrs. Goodnight, Mr. Rice explained that he
is a liaison between the BCC and the Parks and Recreation
Advisory board. He said the members should decide their
procedures and policies. However, he suggested that a week
before the 8CC meeting the Advisory Board should telephone
everyone of their members and have them present, if possible.
He said he would supply any information that the Advisory
board requests, and pointed out that this Advisory Board is
the decision making body. He said that the Parks and
Recreation meetings are scheduled for every third Friday and
that Pat Cookson calls to make sure there will be a quorum.
He asked to be informed prior to members' vacations, in order
to work meetings around those times. He asked for updated
change of addresses.
DISCUSSION OF TOPICS FOR NEXT PARKS & REC. MEETING
Mrs. Goodnight said she would like to be brought
up-to-date on the land situation in Golden Gate. Mr.
Cabarello agreed. Mr. Rice noted that every meeting should
be an update on the various projects. Mr . Tucker asked about
Mr. Rice giving a report to the BCC. Mr. Rice said reports
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on the park sites have been included regularly in the BCC
agendas, with the exception of the Golden Gate site. He
explained the rational behind his department wanting people
to participate in the formation of the parks. He said that
the taxpayers are paying for these parks and will be using
them and that is the reason for public input.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Parks
and Recreation Advisory Board, Mr. Tucker moved, seconded by
Mr. Caballero and carried, 3/0, to adjourn.
PARKS & RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
t, ANNE GOODNIGHT, VICE-CHAIRMAN
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