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01/22/1982 PAR Ad Hoc Naples, Florida , January 22 , 1982 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Parks & Recreation Ad Hoc Committee met on this date at 9 : 15 A.M. in Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex with the following members present : CHAIRMAN: Fred Keyes Leigh Plummer Mary Evans Jane Hittler Egon Hill Dan Breeden Ben Plummer ALSO PRESENT: Donald Pickworth, County Attorney; Rollie Rice , Parks & Recreation Director; Terry Clark , Planner ; and Maureen Kenyon , Deputy Clerk . AGENDA I. Call to Order II . Approval of Minutes III. Addenda IV. Old Business Discussion of public hearing scheduled for February 4th. (Public hearing continued from January 7th) V. New Business VI . Discussion of Addenda VII. Adjournment Page 1 PARKS AND RECREATION AD HOC COMMITTEE January 22 , 1992 MINUTES OF JANUARY 4 , 10.92 Mr . Egon Hill moved , seconded by Mr . Dan Breeden and carried 7/0, that the minutes of January 4, 1982 be approved as presented . DISCUSSION REGARDING LAND ACQUISITION AND COST FACTOR OF FUTURE PARK SITE. Chairman Keyes indicated that County Attorney Pickworth had been invited to discuss inverse condemnation, which occurs by designating the land as recreational open space . County Attorney Pickworth stated that the problem with changing the land use designation of each property before the government requires it or takes any formal steps to acquire it , would be held to be a taken by the court , adding that the owner could force the County to pay just compensation for the property. He said that the only exception to this would be if the property were ligitimately classified as a recreational open space , adding that the only type of property that falls into that category is a place like the Grand Canyon . He reported that most property that is located in such a place for a park would probably have a use for something other than a park. Mr. Dan Breeden said that at no time has the Parks and Recreation Ad Hoc Committee ever downgraded any of this property. He questioned if this property that is now zoned Page 2 PARKS AND RECREATION AD HOC COMMITTEE January 22, 19e2 Agriculture were to have a park constructed would this be downgrading the property? He stated that at no time has the Committee ever offered condemnation , adding that someone is needed to present this to the zoning board so that the work already done will, not be wasted . County Attorney Pickworth stated that changing the land use classification has nothing to do with the functions of the Parks and Recreation Committee , adding that the committee should be looking at the various sites , evaluating them, and making a recommendation to the County which sites should be acquired for parks. He reported that problems occur when land use classification is interfered with , prior to the government taking any formal action to acquire the property. He concluded by stating that a step at a time must be taken and the business of changing the property to recreational open space is the wrong step at the wrong time. Chairman Keyes indicated that the Commissioners have authorized a referendum in the fall , adding that he would like to have a specific site for a certain number of dollars in order to sell the voters . County Attorney Pickworth stated that he would suggest that once the site has been decided on, the landowner could be approached , to which Chairman Keyes stated that the Committee has been prohibited from approaching the owners. Page 3 PARKS AND RECREATION AD HOC COMMITTEE January 22, ]9R2 County Attorney Pickworth reported that the only other suggestion would he to notify the Board that certain sites have been selected and someone is now needed to contact the landowners in order to determine the purchase price of the property. Mr . Leigh Plummer stated that there could be a referendum on a bond issue for approximately 5 million to cover the sites in order to receive the money before changing the Comprehensive Plan or the zoning . County Attorney Pickworth stated that technically you do not have to change the Comprehensive Plan . Mr . Rollie Rice stated that in talking with the public , the ultimate questions asked were, will there be a park if the referendum is passed and where will it be located . To Chairman Keyes question, County Attorney Pickworth stated that the landowners that do not have an immediate need for the land could indicate in a letter that they would be willing to hold the land until such time as the County is ready to purchase same. He stated that a site for a park could be identified as well as the purchase price and the development price for said site for the referendum , adding that the site could either be bought or condemned . Mr. Rice stated that there are 19 pieces of property that need to be appraised , adding that this would be very expensive for the County. Page 4 PARKS AND RECREATION AD HOC COMMITTEE January 22, 1982 Mr. Hill stated that in order to get a bond issue the sites did not need to be identified , adding that the sites could simply be indicated by stating the number for each district. County Attorney Pickworth stated that his only suggestion is to continue the process but delete land classification on the property. There was a general discussion regarding how much money would be needed to purchase the park sites , with the general consensus being five million. Mr . Rice indicated that this figure might take care of the land but a cost factor is needed for construction of the parks, adding that he did not want to wait 8 years for another referendum before construction could begin. Mr. Breeden indicated that there could be extra money added initially to begin construction on at least one park . A general discussion developed regarding the cost of land for parks for each district. Mr. Rice stated that there was a cost factor breakdown plus the maintenance in his report which should be looked at before final judgement is made in reference to a figure for the referendum . He stated that if a referendum was passed in September and the bonds were sold , it would take at least two years before construction could begin , adding that within that time there will be a 20-40% cost factor in developing , due to inflation. Page 5 PARKS AND RECREATION AD HOC COMMITTEE January 22, 192 He indicated that it would be a year before all four sites were ready to be let for bids. He stated that the cost figures should be updated and advanced three to five years and brought back to the next meeting . Terry Clark , Planner , stated that there should be a figure for acquisition and a figure for development . To Chairman Keyes question, Mr. Rice stated that a figure could be put on each district for land with a construction figure added which would be a basic park , further stating that a site could then be selected and a park constructed in each district according to those figures . Mr . Leigh Plummer moved , seconded by Mr . Hill and carried 7/0, that the committee ask the County Commissioners to put on the referendum in November a proposal for a 5 million dollar bond issue for acquistion and initial development of land for parks only in the four districts , excluding the City of Naples . ADJOURNMENT There being no further business , the meeting was adjourned at 10: 15 A.M. by order of the Chair . Fred Keyes, Chairman Page '