08/21/1981 PAR Ad Hoc Naples, Florida, August 21, 1981
LET IT'Sf: KNOWN, that the Parks and Recreation Ad Hoc
Committee met on this date at 9: () A.M. in Building "F" of
the Collier County Courthouse Complex with the following
members present :
CHAIRMAN: Fred Keyes
Lee Plummer
Ben Plummer
Jane Rittler
Mary Evans
Pan Breeden
ALSO PRESENT: Elinor M. Skinner, Deputy Clerk, Rollie
Rice, Parks and Recreation Director , and Terry Clark,
Planner .
AGENDA
T. Approval of minutes of May 22, 1981 meeting
II. Old Rusiness - Discussion of survey report.
New Rusiness
IV. Adjournment
MINUTES OF MAY 22, 1981 MEETING - APPROVED AS PRESENTED
The minutes of the Parks and Recreation meeting of May
22, 19111 were approved unanimously as presented .
DISCUSF-,TON OF SURVEY REPORT
Chairman Keyes said that the committee was going to
discuss the final priorities of the community parks and the
cost factors. He said that this was one of the final meet-
ings before the public relations phase for community parks is
begun and that it is important that the Committee get the
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presentation to the BCC in the correct order . Parks and
Recreation Director Rice said that the discussion on the
priorities of the community parks and the cost factor were
approved in the minutes as a document at the last committee
meeting and he asked if the members had any questions before
the item was taken to the RCC'. FTC said there were some
changes made by Rich Henderlong and that he discovered , a few
days ago, that those final changes had not been made nor had
the cover letter been done to go with the report and the
survey report . Mr . Rice said he felt it would be advan-
tageous to present the report to the Commissioners in order
to find out what they are thinking , since he has found ,
during the past few weeks, that the Commissioners' priorities
have switched to water orientated facilities and boat ramps .
Mr. Lee Plummer said that, before the report goes before
the Board , the Parks and Recreation Committee Chairman should
talk to each Commissioner and tell them what the Committee
has in mind . Chairman Keyes said he had talked with Commis-
sioner Wimer and he knows what the Committee is doing and
that Mr . Keyes indicated that the Committee is interested in
a referendum for a bond issue and that the Committee would do
the public relations work. Chairman Keyes said he would talk
with Commissioner Wenzel and asked Mr. Lee Plummer if he
would talk with Commissioner Kruse and Mr . Plummer agreed to
do so. Mr. Plummer suggested that Mrs. Hittler talk with
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Commissioner Pistor and she agreed to do so. Ben Plummer was
asked to speak with Commissioner Brown and he agreed .
Mr. Rice said that Mr. Henderlong and Terry Clark have
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done a tremendous amount of work for the County as a whole
and that Mr. Henderlong will continue to work with the
committe whenever possible. Mr . Rice said he would put the
report and survey report on an Fxecutive Summary and get the
item on the next Board agenda , since he felt the Board should
be made aware of the fact that the committee needs the
Board ' s approval .
Mr . Rice said he talked with Supervisor of Elections
1 Morgan who told him that the next available election is in
November 1982 but that material has to be submitted by
September 1981 in order to get the item on the ballot. A
short discussion was held regarding the possibility of
tgetting a special election and Chairman Keyes said he felt
the committee should ask for one . Mr . Rice said he felt that
someone from the school system should be approached since the
School Board is considering asking for another 2 mills. Mr .
Gee Plummer suggested that the Committee wait until after the
first of the year and see what other issues arise , so that
the cost of a special election could he spread over items
other than just the proposed bond issue for the parks , and
the committee agreed .
The committee members agreed to talk with the Commis-
sioners as soon as possible and Mr . Rice said he would draft
a cover letter expressing the background of the committee and
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explaining that the report is the committee' s first phase in
the future plan for community parks and request that a
discussion regarding this topic be placed on the RCC agenda .
Mr . Breeden said he felt the Commissioners should have
the final reports before the members talk with them so that
the Commissioners know the report has been adopted . Mr . Rice
said he would give the Commissioners copies of the reports
the first of next week .
Chairman Keyes said that there was some question
regarding the committee needing money from the Board to make
appraisals and he said that Mr . Clark thought that Property
Appraiser Colding could use his department to give the
committee some market figures at no cost. Mr. Rice said he
felt that would he fine as long as the Board approved . Mr .
Clark said he was not sure of the legalities about it and it
was suggested that the County Attorney he asked about that .
Mr. Clark said that if anyone had any questions about
the survey, he would he happy to answer them, but he thought
the survey should be the first thing presented to the Board
since it shows there is an established need for community
parks and that the Board be requested to adopt an official
stand .
Mr . Breeden asked how the proposed sites could be
"locked in" to assure they will be available when needed ,
because he felt that the purchase of the sites was so far in
the future there might not he any of the sites left. A short
discussion covered the manner in which land is rezoned , and
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, • Chairman Keyes explained that the three ways to initiate a
rezone petition are through the owner of the property, the
County Commission or the CAPC. He said that the Parks and
Recreation Department would have to make a staff report and
go through the Planning Department and the Planning Depart-
ment would review it with the CAPC. Mr . Rice suggested that
Community Development Director Virta should come to a
committee meeting and explain what the procedure would he in
order to obtain a site .
Mr . Rice said he felt that money would he needed for
someone to survey the proposed sites and Chairman Keyes said
that money would also he needed for advertising . Mr . Rice
said that Ms. Morgan should be able to provide a figure for
the amount of money that would he needed to set up a refer-
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endum .
Mr . Pen Plummer suggested that the Chamber of Commerce
and various civic organizations should be approached for
donations and the committee members agreed . Mr . Rice said
that the Public Relations Chairman should be asked about the
strategy he plans to use and how much he thinks it would cost
and Mr. Rice said he would call him .
The committee members agreed that Mr . Henderlong should
present the report to the PCC and that Mr. Clark should speak
in relation to the survey. The decision was made that Mr .
Rice would try and get the presentation placed on the PCC
agenda in approximately two weeks.
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DISCUSSION RE FIELD TRIP TO LEE COUNTY'S NEW PARK
Mr. Rice explained that approximately two weeks ago Lee
County opened a 2r acre park and that he knows Bill Hammond
well and that he is In charge of public services in Lee
County. He said he would like to have the committee members
go and look at the park and that the cost of the park could
be discussed. After a discussion, the members agreed to
visit the park and Mr . Rice said he would try and arrange a
trip on September 2, and that he would call the committee
members as soon as he finds out if that date is all right .
He said he would also invite the Commissioners and 5111
McGowen to go.
NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING - SEPTEMBER 4 , 1951
After a short discussion , the decision was made for the
next Parks and Recreation Ad Hoc meeting to he September 4 ,
1951, the Friday before the presentation by the committee to
the BCC on September 5, 1951 . Mr . Rice said he would make
sure that each committee member had the final report with the
corrections, the survey and the cover letter and that , in the
interim, the members will talk with the Commissioners and
bring their input to the September 4th meeting. Mr . Rice
said he would send the City Parks and Recreation a copy of
the reports and ask that someone come to the September 4th
meeting .
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There being no further business to come before the
committee, the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair -
Time: 9: 45 A. M.
PARES AND RECREATION AD HOC COMMITTEE
Fred Keyes, Chairman
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