HEX Transcript 11/13/2015 November 13, 2015 HEX Meeting
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY HEARING EXAMINER
Naples,Florida
November 13,2015
LET IT BE REMEMBERED,that the Collier CountyHearingExaminer,in and for the Countyof
Collier,having conducted business herein,met on this date at 9:00 a.m.,in REGULAR SESSION at 2800
North Horseshoe Drive,Room 609/610,Naples,Florida,with the following people present:
HEARING EXAMINER MARK STRAIN
ALSO PRESENT: Rachel Beasley,Planner
Michael Bosi,Director
Scott Stone,Assistant County Attorney
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AGENDA
THE COLLIER COUNTY HEARING EXAMINER
WILL HOLD A HEARING AT 9:00 AM ON FRIDAY,NOVEMBER 13,2015 IN CONFERENCE ROOM 610
AT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT/PLANNING®ULATION BUILDING,2800 N.
HORSESHOE DRIVE,NAPLES,FLORIDA
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HEARING EXAMINER. PERSONS WISHING TO HAVE WRITTEN OR GRAPHIC MATERIALS
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COUNTY STAFF 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING. ALL MATERIALS USED DURING
PRESENTATION AT THE HEARING WILL BECOME A PERMANENT PART OF THE RECORD.
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RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO
ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD
INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
DECISIONS OF THE HEARING EXAMINER ARE FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
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PRESENTATION BY STAFF, PUBLIC COMMENT AND APPLICANT REBUTTAL. THE HEARING
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1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
2. REVIEW OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF PRIOR MEETING MINUTES: October 8,2015
4. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. PETITION NO. VA-PL20140001970 — Geneva B. Spencer, Trustee of the Geneva B. Spencer
Revocable Trust Agreement, requests a variance from Section 3.5 D of Ordinance No. 05-14, the
Silver Lakes Mixed Use Planned Unit Development (MPUD), to reduce the minimum front yard
setback from 10 feet to 2.9 feet for an existing mobile home with a front yard balcony on property
located at Lot 12, Block 2, Silver Lakes Phase Two-A subdivision, on the east side of Collier Blvd,
approximately one mile south of the Collier Blvd.and U.S.41 intersection, in Section 10,Township 51
South,Range 26 East,Collier County,Florida. [Coordinator. Rachel Beasley,Planner]
5. OTHER BUSINESS
6. PUBLIC COMMENTS
7. ADJOURN
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EXHIBITS
DESCRIPTION PAGE
VA-PL20140001970
A-Staff Report 4
B-Legal Advertisement 4
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PROCEEDINGS
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Good morning,everyone. Welcome to the Friday,November
13th meeting of the Collier County Hearing Examiner's Office. And I did not coordinate the date and the day
to be Friday the 13th,so hopefully it turns out to be an okay day.
Would everybody please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Thank you.
Some housekeeping matters. Individual speakers will be limited to five minutes unless otherwise
waived. All decisions are final unless appealed to the Board of County Commissioners. And a decision will
be rendered within 30 days.
With that,a review of the agenda. We have one item on the agenda. There are no changes to the
agenda at this time.
Approval of prior minute meetings of October 8,2015. Those have been read,and those are okay to
record.
***That takes us to the first and only public hearing for today. It's Petition No.VA-PL20140001970,
and it's the Geneva B.Spencer Trustee of the Geneva B.Spencer Revocable Trust Agreement for 1063
Diamond Lake Circle,as the screen shows.
With that,all those wishing to testify on behalf of this item,please rise to be sworn in by the court
reporter. If you intend to speak on this item,you need to be sworn in.
(All speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Thank you. And with that,first we'll start out with the exhibits.
Exhibit A will be the staff report. And there have been two staff reports in this particular case.One was
changed and recently reissued,and it's for the hearing date of 11/13/2015. That will the staff report for Exhibit
A. Exhibit B will be the legal ad.
Disclosures on my part. I reviewed the files.This is an older PUD. It had files going back into the
early'90s. I've talked with staff. I've met with several representatives of the applicant from Mr.Carlo
Zampogna's office,including himself today,and that's all the disclosures I have at this time.
And with that,because members of the public are here—I have read the entire package. It's 95 pages.
I normally don't need a formal presentation,but for the benefit of those in the public,the applicant's going to
need to put on a presentation for us and state your case.
You need to introduce yourself for the record.
MS.SEIDLER: Good morning. My name is Ashley Seidler. I am the legal clerk at Zampogna law
firm representing Ms.Geneva Spencer.
Today we are here to request a variance to reduce the front-yard setback from 10 feet to 2.9 feet for the
existing mobile home with a front-yard balcony located at 1063 Diamond Lake Circle.
I'll give you a little bit of history. In 1999 the mobile home was placed on the property,sited with
proper setbacks,and issued a certificate of completion. Subsequently,that certificate of completion was
canceled;however,the tax assessor's office missed that cancellation because we've been taxed on the square
footage since approximately 2000.
She lived on the property without any problems and has since moved out of Florida. At 87 years old,
she attempted to sell the property where we became aware of these two permitting issues that have existed for
the past 16 years.
Originally,the back of the mobile home encroached into the rear setback,but we have since brought
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that into compliance and now only have the front remaining.
A literal interpretation of the code leaves a portion of the home encroaching into the front-yard
setback;however,we can't shift it back because it will then encroach into the rear setback. Similarly,it's not
feasible to remove a piece of the property because it would affect the structural integrity rendering it
structurally impossible,which is stated in the affidavit by Kosinski Engineering.
In addition,the mobile home and balcony encroach into the utility easement. We have three letters of
no objection from ComCast,CenturyLink,and Florida Power&Light regarding this encroachment.
Again,today we are seeking a minimum variance to put the mobile home and balcony into compliance
with the front-yard setback. If granted,this variance will still make possible the land,building,and structures
that promote health,safety,and welfare.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Let me run through some pictures I've put on the overhead.
First of all,that's the general location of the property.And then the aerial,this shows it in relationship to the rest
of the neighborhood. And one of the questions I have here is from this line to this line,I believe,is about 60
feet. Do you know that? Do you know exactly what that is,or have you checked that at all?
MS. SEIDLER: I do not know the exact.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. And the reason that's important is I notice this road is
pushed much to the north side of the property,and these homes over here are much closer to the edge of the
road. Likewise,these are sitting back because it looks like the right-of-way was wider than was needed for a
road of this style.
Generally we allow deviations for road widths,and they can either be done by the Engineering
Department or through the PUD process to drop the width down to usually 40 or 42 feet. So there is an excess
amount of width in that particular location on this site. That's a little bit more of a blowup of the aerial for the
property in question. It's in line with some of the other properties on the block,so there may be other issues
there that eventually have to be addressed.
The survey of the property,this is the area that is in question where the building extends right here,and
then the front balcony goes out a little bit right here. In the back there was a covered lanai,and I believe it
went out to here.And then based on the photographs,what I've seen,you have restructured that lanai and
moved it back already.
MS. SEIDLER: Correct.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. So that section has been taken out;is that correct?
MS. SEIDLER: That's correct.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: This is a blowup of the front condition,so there's still--from the
center line of the road there's 30 feet. That road width is 12 feet. You've got a 2-foot valley gutter. So you're
still looking at 15 feet plus this distance set back from the back of curb,which is the measurement used in most
planned unit developments in Collier County.
And I think that's the extent of the overheads I have. I don't know if there was anything you wanted in
addition to that. That's what we're dealing with right now.
I have a few questions from the documentation you submitted. First of all,the easement in the front,
this area right here is subject to various utilities being underground. You've got letters of no objection to your
setback from all the utilities--
MS. SEIDLER: We do.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: --that were available?
MS. SEIDLER: We do.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: And I think it was CenturyLink,ComCast--
MS. SEIDLER: And Florida Power&Light.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: --and Florida Power&Light.
I also notice a letter from the structural engineer confirming your statement about it would be
structurally impossible to cut this building up and move it back to the line.
The narrative that you provided had a discrepancy I want to clear up,and it's on—it says,the nature of
the petition is--in my electronic version,it's on Page 24 of the packet. It says--I can read it to you. It says,
detailed explanation,then the fourth paragraph down,or the fifth,reads,that same day,Dig-M-Installers
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obtained an occupancy permit but never called for a final inspection.
And then in the next paragraph it said,she did not have a final occupancy permit or final inspection. I
understand the final inspection comment from the paragraph above. So an occupancy permit was issued and
then canceled?
MS.SEIDLER: I believe it was--it was canceled,yes.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. In order to be issued,would it have had an expectation
that the positioning of that mobile home met the requirements of the county at the time it was issued?
MS.SEIDLER: That's correct.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: And then apparently after it was canceled,there was never
another one sought because your client didn't know that one was--at that point the situation?
MS. SEIDLER: Correct. She had no idea that it had even been canceled.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: And there's a statement in a paragraph up from the bottom of
that page,and I'll read it to you. It said,the contractors were in violation of the original plan approved by
Collier County and did so without any intention of calling for a final inspection. How did you--how did you
realize that?
MS.SEIDLER: This was prior to when we had started working on the case,but from what we have
been told from the owners,they believe that they never were going to call for it.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: The reason is that statement would indicate that the contractors
were very deceitful in the way they managed this particular project. And if that's the case,I think it would be
more something of a licensing issue that may be needed to be followed up. And I wasn't sure how that
statement got there,whether it was testimony or just a comment made by your client,which it appears it is.
She has no proof that they intentionally--
MS.SEIDLER: Dig-M-Installers is no longer active in Florida.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Yeah,I saw the information on that,too.
Okay. And that's the only issue—only questions I have at this time,so--
MS.SEIDLER: Thank you.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: --thank you very much.
And with that I'll ask for a staff report.
MS.BEASLEY: Rachel Beasley,for the record.
A staff report was submitted,and it is recommending approval with the stipulation that any permit that
has not received a certificate of occupancy will be required to obtain one.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: And I have read your recommendation. I'm in disagreement
with it,so that will not be part of the decision. A permit issued in,potentially 1999,a facility paying taxes
since that time on the improvements,and it being left without a problem for 15 years would be more of a
problem to try to obtain a permit 15 years later for something that was built at a prior code and prior time with
the county,so I don't see the necessity of forcing the client to go through the effort on that permit. That's
something that they can handle however they see fit with your department. That won't be part of something
I'll be considering at this time.
And with that,are there any members of the public that would like to speak? Please come on up and
identify yourself for the record.
MS.KEENE: Good morning. My name is Margaret Keene,and I reside at Silver Lakes RV and
Golf Resort. Thank you. I live at 1350 Silver Lakes Boulevard,and I also happen to be a member of the
POA board of directors.
My only question is,is if this variance is granted,what effect does that have on our governing
documents that are based on the Collier County Land Development Code going forward?
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Your governing documents I have not read. I would assume
they are partly to be consistent with the Land Development Code.
The process this applicant has gone through is to obtain consistency through a variance,so this would
have--should have no effect on the application of the Land Development Code,because the process they went
through got them consistent based on the variance request applied through the Land Development Code.
MS.KEENE: Okay. Would that mean that going forward that people could place their homes in the
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same place,or they would have to acquire a variance in order to do that?
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: No. Well,they would have to acquire a variance,but if you're
going to do it proactively,meaning you're going to come in with the intention of doing this,you'd be turned
down.
MS. KEENE: Okay.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: You'd be told no.This is a reasonable error. It looks like it's
through no fault of the applicant or the property owner in this case. It's a situation that's existed for
approximately 15 years with no harmful effect on the neighborhood. Someone else would have to meet all
those criteria,and they wouldn't be given a permit in the first place if this was a known condition. Today's
inspections and follow-through by the county staff is much more intense than it was in 1999. I cannot imagine
how this could have happened today.
MS.KEENE: Okay.
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Thank you for your input.
Anybody else that would like to speak on this matter?
(No response.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. I don't have anything else. Are there any staff--Scott,
are you fine?
(No verbal response.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: Okay. With that,we will close this public hearing. And a
decision will be rendered on this within 30 days. Just so you know,my office will probably have this
completed within about 10 days,but we do have 30 as far as the record goes.
But thank you for your time,everybody. Appreciate your time here today. Thank you very much.
That takes us to the balance of our agenda,which is other business. There is none.
Any other public comments?
(No response.)
HEARING EXAMINER STRAIN: There are none.
With that,we'll adjourn. Thank you.
There being no further business for the good of the County,the meeting was adjourned by order of the
Hearing Examiner at 9:14 a.m.
COLLI(R C?UNIY ARING EXAMINER
MARK STRAIN, HEARING EXAMINER
ATTEST
DWIGHT E. BROCK,CLERK
These minutes approved by the Hearing Examiner on 1 t ' I " ,as presented _
or as corrected
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COURT REPORTING SERVICE, INC.,BY
TERRI LEWIS,COURT REPORTER AND NOTARY PUBLIC.
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