CEB Minutes 10/22/2015 October 22, 2015
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
Naples, Florida, October 22, 2015
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Code
Enforcement Board, in and for the County of Collier having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in REGULAR SESSION
in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida,
with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Robert Kaufman
Robert Ashton
Ron Doino
Gerald J. Lefebvre
Lionel L'Esperance
Lisa Chapman Bushnell
Sue Curley
James Lavinski (Excused)
Tony Marino (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT:
Kerry Adams, Code Enforcement
Tamara Lynne Nicola, Attorney to the Board
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CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
AGENDA
Date: October 22, 2015 at 9:00 A.M.
Location: 3299 Tamiami Trail East,Naples, FL 34104
NOTICE: THE RESPONDENT MAY BE LIMITED TO TWENTY(20) MINUTES FOR CASE
PRESENTATION UNLESS ADDITIONAL TIME IS GRANTED BY THE BOARD. PERSONS
WISHING TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEM WILL RECEIVE UP TO FIVE (5)MINUTES
UNLESS THE TIME IS ADJUSTED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
ALL PARTIES PARTICIPATING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING ARE ASKED TO OBSERVE
ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER AND SPEAK ONE AT A TIME SO THAT THE COURT
REPORTER CAN RECORD ALL STATEMENTS BEING MADE.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A
RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO,AND THEREFORE MAY NEED
TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE,WHICH
RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO
BE BASED. NEITHER COLLIER COUNTY NOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SHALL
BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THIS RECORD.
1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
2. ROLL CALL
Robert Kaufman,Chair Ron Doino
Gerald Lefebvre,Vice Chair James Lavinski(Excused)
Lionel L' Esperance Robert Ashton
Tony Marino Lisa Chapman Bushnell,Alternate
Sue Curley,Alternate
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES,
A. September 24,2015 Hearing
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS/MOTIONS
A. Motions
Motion for Continuance
I. CASE NO: CENA20150008263
OWNER: 333 INVESTMENTS LAND TRUST,
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MICHAELLE CROWLEY
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE LAWS AND ORDINANCES,CHAPTER 54,ARTICLE VI, SECTION
54-185(D),PROHIBITED EXOTIC'VEGETATION,INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
EARLEAF ACACIA AND BRAZILIAN PEPPER, LOCATED UPON UNIMPROVED PROPERTY
WITHIN 200-FOOT RADIUS OF IMPROVED RESIDENTIALLY PROPERTY.
FOLIO NO: 288040002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 1450 WHIPPOORWILL LANE,NAPLES
Motion for Extension of Time
I. CASE NO: CESD20140010232
OWNER: MANSOLILLO IRA LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR RALPH BOSA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(I)(A).AND 2010 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE CHAPTER I,PART 2,SECTION 105.1.
COMPLETE REMODELING OF THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME AND GARAGE BEING
CONVERTED TO LIVING SPACE INCLUDING PLUMBING,ELECTRIC AND STRUCTURAL
WORK AS WELL AS A FENCE IN THE FRONT YARD ALL WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING
REQUIRED COLLIER COUNTY BUILDING PERMITS.
FOLIO NO: 37161440006
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 120 7TH ST SW,NAPLES
2. CASE NO: CESD20140017973
• OWNER: GEORGE CALDERON&CRISTINA CALDERON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MARIA RODRIGUEZ
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A).AN ADDITION/STORAGE ROOM WITH ELECTRIC ATTACHED TO PRIMARY
STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE
REQUIRED PERMITS(S),INSPECTIONS AND CERTIFICATE(S)OF OCCUPANCY AS
REQUIRED BY COLLIER COUNTY.
FOLIO NO: 00061560000
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 4725 VIREO LN,IMMOKALEE
B. Stipulations
C. Hearings
I. CASE NO: CEROW20140012496
OWNER: MARIA PADILLA
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MICHAELLE CROWLEY
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE LAWS AND ORDINANCES,CHAPTER 110,ARTICLE II,DIVISION
1,SECTION 110-31(A).ENCLOSED SWALE IN RIGHT OF WAY WITHOUT APPLICABLE
COLLIER COUNTY PERMIT(S).
F01,10 NO: 62254520002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 5341 MITCHELL ST,NAPLES
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2. CASE NO: CENA20150006292
OWNER: CCF LP C/O HOMETOWN AMERICA MGT LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MICHAELLE CROWLEY
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE LAWS AND ORDINANCES,CHAPTER 54,ARTICLE VI,SECTION
54-185(D).PRESENCE OF PROHIBITED EXOTIC VEGET'ATION,INCLUDING BUT NOT
LIMITED TO EAR.LEAF ACACIA AND BRAZILIAN PEPPER,LOCATED UPON UNIMPROVED
PROPERTY WITHIN 200-FOOT RADIUS OF IMPROVED RESIDENTIALLY PROPERTY. THIS
PARCEL CONTAINS A UTILITY EASEMENT TO FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT.
FOLIO NO: 292960000
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 220 GARFIELD ST,NAPLES
3. CASE NO: CEAU20150003344
OWNER: BRADLEY GOODSON& LEIGHA WILSON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR SHIRLEY GARCIA
VIOLATIONS: THE 2010 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.I05.1 AS REQUIRED,CHAIN LINK FENCE NSTALLED
AROUND THE PROPERTY WITH A PRIVACY FENCE IN FRONT WITHOUT A VALID
COLLIER COUNTY PERMIT,
FOLIO NO: 75760160008
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 2432 FLORIDA AVE,NAPLES
4. CASE NO: CEL020140025168
OWNER: BRADLEY GOODSON& LEIGHA WILSON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR SHIRLEY GARCIA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,SECTION 2.02.03.OUTSIDE
STORAGE CONSISTING OF BUT NOT LIMITED TO,NUMEROUS HOUSEHOLD ITEMS,
WASHER,DRYERS,METALS,PLASTIC,WOOD,GLASS,SIDING,TIRES,ETC.
FOLIO NO: 75760160008
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 2432 FLORIDA AVE,NAPLES
5, CASE NO: CEAU20150003345
OWNER: BRADLEY GOODSON&LEIGHA WILSON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR SHIRLEY GARCIA
VIOLATIONS: THE 2010 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.105,1 AS REQUIRED.ALTERED THE FENCE PERMIT
BY ENCLOSING BOTH PROPERTIES AND ADDING A PRIVACY FENCE IN THE FRONT
WITHOUT A VALID COLLIER COUNTY PERMIT.
FOLIO NO: 75760120006
ADDRESS: 2448 FLORIDA AVE,NAPLES
6. CASE NO: CELU20140025432
OWNER: BRADLEY GOODSON&LEIGHA WILSON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR SHIRLEY GARCIA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,SECTION 2,02.03.OUTSIDE
STORAGE CONSISTING OF BUT NOT LIMITED TO,NUMEROUS HOUSEHOLD ITEMS,
WASHER, DRYERS,METALS,PLASTIC,WOOD,GLASS,SIDING,TIRES,ETC.
FOLIO NO: 75760120006
ADDRESS: 2448 FLORIDA AVE,NAPLES
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7. CASE NO: CENA20150008263
OWNER: 333 INVESTMENTS LAND TRUST,
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MICHAELLE CROWLEY
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE LAWS AND ORDINANCES,CHAPTER 54,ARTICLE VI,SECTION
54-185(D).PROHIBITED EXOTIC VEGETATION,INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
EARLEAF ACACIA AND BRAZILIAN PEPPER,LOCATED UPON UNIMPROVED PROPERTY
WITHIN 200-FOOT RADIUS OF IMPROVED RESIDENTIALLY PROPERTY.
FOLIO NO: 288040002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 1450 WHIPPOORWILL LANE,NAPLES
B. Motion for Reduction of Fines/Lien.
6. OLD BUSINESS
A. Motion for Imposition of Fines/Liens
I. CASE NO: CESD20150002056
OWNER: REG8 BERKSHIRE COMMONS LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR VIRGINIE GIGUERE
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,ORDINANCE 04-41,AS AMENDED,
SECTION 10.02.06(B)(1)(E).UNPERMITTED INTERIOR RENOVATION CONSISTING OF BUT
NOT LIMITED TO: EXPOSED STRUCTURAL STUDS,ELECTRIC AND PLUMBING
ADJACENT TO THE FIREWALL BETWEEN THE NAIL SPA AND SUBWAY RESTAURANT.
FOLIO NO: 23945007103
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 7063 RADIO RD,NAPLES
2. CASE NC): CESD20140010232
OWNER: MANSOLILLO IRA LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR RALPH BOSA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A).AND 2010 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE CHAPTER I,PART 2,SECTION 105.1.
COMPLETE REMODELING OF THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME AND GARAGE BEING
CONVERTED TO LIVING SPACE INCLUDING PLUMBING.ELECTRIC AND STRUCTURAL
WORK AS WELL AS A FENCE IN l'HE FRONT YARD ALL WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING
REQUIRED COLLIER COUNTY BUILDING PERMITS.
FOLIO NO: 37161440006
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 120 7TH ST SW,NAPLES
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II
3. CASE NO: CESD20150002007
OWNER: CRAIG DANIELS&MARTHA DANIELS
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR STEVEN LOPEZ-SILVERO
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(I)(A). SINGLE-WIDE MOBILE HOME STAGED ON UNIMPROVED RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE REQUIRED PERMIT(S),INSPECTIONS AND
CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
FOLIO NO: 01132880003
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 223 GLADYS CT,COPELAND
4. CASE NO: CEN20150002834
OWNER: HERITAGE SQUARE REAL EST LLC,
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR PATRICK BALDWIN
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND ORDINANCE CHAPTER 2,ARTICLE IX
COMMERCIAL AMPLIFIED MUSIC IN RESIDENTIAL USE OR ZONING.COLLIER COUNTY
CODE OF LAWS CHAPTER 54 ENVIROMENT,ARTICLE IV NOISE,SECTION 54-92-(F)(2)AND
(B)MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE SOUND AND VIBRATION LEVELS BY ZONING
CLASSIFICATION OR USE OCCUPANCY.(1)NO SOUND SHALL VIOLATE ANY SOUND
STANDARD PROVISION OF THIS ARTICLE(TABLE!).BEACH TAVERN SOUND LEVELS
EXCEEDING THE ALLOWABLE DECIBEL LIMIT FOR THE TIME PERIOD READINGS WERE
PERFORMED.
FOLIO NO: 152480002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 13514 TAMIAMI TRL N,NAPLES
5. CASE NO: CESD20140017973
OWNER: GEORGE CALDERON&CRISTINA CALDERON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR MARIA RODRIGUEZ
VIOLA'T'IONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1XA).AN ADDITION/STORAGE ROOM WITH ELECTRIC ATTACHED TO PRIMARY
STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE
REQUIRED PERMITS(5),INSPECTIONS AND CERTIFICATE(S)OF OCCUPANCY AS
REQUIRED BY COWER COUNTY.
FOLIO NO: 00061560000
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 4725 VIREO LN,IMMOKAI..EE
6. CASE NO: CESD20140009842
OWNER: KELLY LYNN ROMINE
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR STEVEN LOPEZ-SILVERO
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(I)(A).A COVERED WOODEN DECK IN THE FRONT AND REAR YARDS OF IMPROVED
OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING THE REQUIRED
PERMIT(S),INSPECTIONS,AND CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION.
FOLIO NO: 01132240009
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 241 GLADYS CT,COPELAND
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7. CASE NO: CESD20150002065
OWNER: RANDY HOLTON
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR JAMES KINCAID
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(I)(A).UNPERMI TED SHED AND ANIMAL CAGES ON IMPROVED RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY.
FOLIO NO: 62098320002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 5341 MARTIN ST,NAPLES
8. CASE NO: CESD20140019519
OWNER: STEPHEN SHANE CLARY&CHRISTOPHER JASON CLARY
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR ERIC SHORT
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A)AND SECTION 2.02.03.AN UNPERMITTED SECONDARY MOBILE HOME WITH
UTILITY CONNECTIONS AND A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE WITH UTILITY CONNECTIONS.
FOLIO NO: 110480002
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 18960 IMMOKALEE RD, IMMOKALEE
9. CASE NO: C.ESD20140009331
OWNER: SOUTH NAPLES CENTER LLC
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR RALPH BOSA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06
(B)(1)(A). IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT FIRST OBTAINING REQUIRED COLLIER COUNTY
BUILDING PERMITS.
FOLIO NO: 726440009
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 13255 TAMIAMI TRAIL E,NAPLES
10. CASE NO: CEPM20140025426
OWNER: LYNNE V CADENHEAD
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR CHRISTOPHER AMBACH
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND ORDINANCES,CHAPTER 22 BUILDINGS AND
BUILDING REGULATIONS.ARTICLE VI PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE,SECTION 22-
231(12)(Q)AND SECTION 22-236.A VACANT RESIDENTIAL HOME DECLARED
DANGEROUS BY THE COLLIER COUNTY BUILDING OFFICIAL.
FOLIO NO: 74414040006
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 3414 CHEROKEE ST,NAPLES
11. CASE NO: CESD20140012494
OWNER: LYNNE V CADENHEAD
OFFICER: INVESTIGATOR SHIRLEY GA.RCIA
VIOLATIONS: COLLIER COUNTY CODE OF LAWS AND ORDINANCES,CHAPTER 22,ARTICLE VI,
SECTION 22-236 AND COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 04-41,AS
AMENDED,SECTION 10.02.06(B)(1)(A).A PRIMARY STRUCTURE WITH UNPERMITTED
ALTERATIONS IN POOR CONDITION AND AN UNPERMITTED TWO-STORY STORAGE
STRUCTURE IN POOR CONDITION.
FOLIO NO: 74413200009
VIOLATION
ADDRESS: 3417 CHEROKEE ST,NAPLES
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B. Motion to Rescind Previously Issued Order
C. Motion to Amend Previously Issued Order
7. NEW BUSINESS
A. 2016 Hearing Schedule Discussion
8. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Request to Forward Cases to County Attorney's Office as Referenced in Submitted Executive Summary.
9, REPORTS
10, COMMENTS
11. NEXT MEETING DATE- November 20,2015
12. ADJOURN
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October 22, 2015
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning, everybody. I'd like to
start out with having everybody turn their cell phones to vibrate instead
of ring.
And I'd like to begin with everybody standing, and we'll do the
Pledge of Allegiance.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let's begin with the roll call.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Robert Kaufman?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Gerald Lefebvre?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Here.
Mr. Lionel L'Esperance?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Ron Doino.
MR. DOINO: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Robert Ashton?
MR. ASHTON: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Ms. Lisa Chapman Bushnell?
MS. BUSHNELL: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Ms. Sue Curley?
MS. CURLEY: Here.
MS. ADAMS: Mr. Tony Marino has an excused absence, and
James Lavinski has an excused absence.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So both alternates will be
voting members of the Board this morning.
Do we have any changes on the agenda?
MS. ADAMS: No. 5, public hearing/motions, A, motion, motion
for continuance, we have three additions.
The first is from imposition of fines, No. 10, Tab 17, Case
CEPM20140025426, Lynne V. Cadenhead.
The second is from imposition of fines, No. 11, Tab 18, Case
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CESD20140012494, Lynne V. Cadenhead.
The third is No. 2 from hearings, Tab 2, Case
CENA20150006292, CCF, LP.
Motion for extension of time, we have one addition. It's from
imposition of fines, No. 6, Tab 13, Case CESD20140009842, Kelly
Lynn Romine.
Number 6, old business, Letter A, motion for imposition of
fines/liens, No. 4, Tab 11, Case CEN20150002834, Heritage Square
Real Estate, LLC, has been withdrawn, and that's all the changes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could we get a motion to
accept the agenda as modified?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion to accept the agenda as
modified.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
I'd like to read the disclaimer. Notice: The respondent may be
limited to 20 minutes for case presentation unless additional time is
granted by the Board.
Persons wishing to speak on any agenda item will receive up to
five minutes unless the time is adjusted by the Chairman. All parties
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participating in the public hearing are asked to observe Robert's Rules
of Order and speak one at a time so that the court reporter can record
all statements being made.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this board will
need a record of the proceedings pertaining thereto and, therefore, may
need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made,
which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the
appeal is to be based. Neither Collier County nor the Code
Enforcement Board shall be responsible for providing this record.
I'm sure everybody has had a chance to review the minutes. Are
there any changes to the minutes that were distributed?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to approve.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and second to
approve the minutes.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
And we begin.
MS. ADAMS: The first case, No. 5, public hearings, motions,
Letter A, motion for continuance.
Number 1, Tab 7, Case CENA20150008263, 333 Investments
Land Trust.
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(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MS. CROWLEY: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Looks like you're by yourself this
morning here.
MS. CROWLEY: I am. The respondents are aware of the
hearing. I know they've requested a continuance.
And I received a call on Tuesday evening from the owner's
daughter, and I am meeting her on site tomorrow. So I think the
hearing notice got their attention.
And we have no objection to the continuance.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Whereabout on Whippoorwill is this site?
MS. CROWLEY: It's the FP&L easement on the east side.
MR. LEFEBVRE: South of Mariposa, north of--
MS. CROWLEY: Stratford.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- Stratford Place.
MS. CROWLEY: That's it, yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And partially -- it's partially cleared already?
MS. CROWLEY: That is correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Off the road.
MS. CROWLEY: They've had partial abatement, yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Partial abatement, okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And they are looking for how
long of a continuance?
MR. ASHTON: November.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: A month.
MS. CROWLEY: Yeah, one month.
MR. ASHTON: One month.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to continue.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
grant a continuance.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Till next meeting.
MS. NICOLA: I want to -- oh, I was going to say that, because if
you give a 30-day continuance, it's the 21st, and our meeting's the 20th.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Next meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. So it will be a continuance till
November 20th, which is our next meeting.
We have a motion and a second.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you.
MS. CROWLEY: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next motion for continuance is from
imposition of fines, No. 10, Tab 17, Case CEPM20140025426, Lynne
V. Cadenhead.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I believe we have two cases, same
subject, from Mr. Cadenhead; is that correct?
MR. AMBACH: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is on Tab 17 and Tab 18. Okay.
We'll hear them one -- we'll vote on them one at a time. And this is a
request for a continuance.
MR. AMBACH: Correct.
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(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MR. AMBACH: Good morning. For the record, Chris Ambach,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
Mr. Cadenhead sent a letter in requesting an extension of time.
He's going to be in court -- I believe it's federal court -- today. He was
subpoenaed. He was not able to make it today.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Have operational costs been paid?
MR. AMBACH: They have not been paid. The violation has
been abated, however.
MR. ASHTON: Pretty interesting.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Because the next case they should have been
paid, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, the operational costs on Tab
17, if you will, list them as not being paid, and if I fast forward to the
next case, it says they have been paid. So there seems to be a little
confusion. Generally they're both paid or neither is paid, so -- okay.
This is a case that's been going on for a while. If he's in court, he's in
court.
MR. LEFEBVRE: He's been in front of us, if I'm not mistaken,
multiple times, correct?
MR. AMBACH: Correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And he's always been cordial and willing to
try -- appears to try to correct the problem, if I'm not mistaken.
MR. AMBACH: Correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So I think under those circumstances, we
should grant a continuance.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Till next meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Till the next meeting.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. AMBACH: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Don't go away.
Next case or -- different person? Okay. I figured you shared.
MS. ADAMS: The next motion for continuance is from
imposition of fines, No. 11, Tab 18, Case CESD20140012494, Lynne
V. Cadenhead.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MS. GARCIA: For the record, Shirley Garcia, Collier County
Code Enforcement.
I also did receive the letter. He mailed me one and then emailed
it in, and I have no objection.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Sounds familiar.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And this has not been abated, correct?
MS. GARCIA: No, it has. He hasn't even gotten the
walk-through from Jonathan Walsh. I think he's overwhelmed with as
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many issues that he has on other properties, so -- there's a lot going on.
MR. ASHTON: It's going on for a while.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. This one goes back to
September. About a year old.
MS. GARCIA: That's correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: This is the one regarding the -- his engineer
said the building was safe, and then the county said no?
MS. GARCIA: That's correct. And so he was granted an
opportunity to remove everything from the interior so that the building
official can do another walk-through and see everything completed,
but he has not finished it yet and made that --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Who hasn't finished that?
MS. GARCIA: Mr. Cadenhead.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: He hasn't emptied it out?
MS. GARCIA: Not yet. As of yesterday, I was on site. It's still
not -- there's still interior walls and the flooring that he needs to
remove. Insulation needs to be removed as well, and electrical wires.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Has he said that he was going to take
a --
MS. GARCIA: (Nods head.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you have any problem
with extending this?
MS. GARCIA: No. I don't have an issue with continuing it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: This one's a little different because it seems
like we're going to be -- he's going to come in front of us and probably
ask for an extension beyond the 30 days, because it doesn't sound like
it's going to be completed within that period.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, he'll have to come back next
month anyway?
MS. GARCIA: Right, correct.
MR. AMBACH: Anyways, yeah.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: So make a motion to continue this one till
next meeting also.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that one also.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This is continued to
November 20th. Any other comments on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MS. GARCIA: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next motion for continuance is No. 2 from
hearings, Tab 2, Case CENA20150006292, CCF, LP.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MS. CROWLEY: For the record, Michaelle Crowley, Collier
County Code Enforcement environmental specialist.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This is the letter that was on
everybody's site, if you want to take a second to read it.
Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So the dispute in ownership is what they're --
MS. CROWLEY: That is correct. According to the Collier
County records, however, they are the owner of-- this is also an FP&L
easement on Radio Road. The trailer park that was adjacent to it has
changed hands multiple times, but it does not appear as if the easement
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has ever -- that this particular almost-4-acre parcel has ever changed
hands. So the corporate office says we didn't know that we owned it.
We're still looking into it, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, if they own it, they could sell it
and then --
MS. CROWLEY: Well, they're not likely to sell it while there's a
code case open.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Generally you hear the argument the
other way. "It's mine" not "it's yours."
Okay. Do you have any problem with granting some time on this
one?
MS. CROWLEY: I do not.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I guess something's going to
happen in the next month anyhow. I'm looking to see how much time
they're asking for; 30 days. Bring us to November 20th, which is 29
days but close enough.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to continue it next month. It
looks like we'll have a busy month.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MS. CROWLEY: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case, motion for extension of time, No.
1, Tab 9, Case CESD20140010232, Mansolillo IRA, LLC.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This is a case that began
November 21, 2014. We're closing in on a year. So why don't you let
us know what you have in mind.
MR. MANSOLILLO: This hasn't been easy. We bought the
house, and when we bought the house, we couldn't really do anything
because there was a violation that they were clearing up, which was for
trees, pepper trees.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Exotics.
MR. MANSOLILLO: And so Fannie Mae, I had to spend 33,000
to take all these trees out. It was loaded with them; it just about
devastated the land. And, finally, when we could get in there, we had
a problem. And since then, they stole the air conditioner on both
houses, they stole the water pumps, they ripped out the walls, stole all
the wires, so we're trying to rebuild and refit something to something
that was built 30 years ago.
They didn't get the -- and I want to say what I said, they didn't get
the finals back to me until the end of May. It's not because they were
being hard on me or anything. It's just that it was just that difficult,
because stuff that's made today didn't fit some of the stuff that they had
before.
We just straightened out a problem with one of the air
conditioners on the small building that nothing matched. We ended up
tearing out the whole ducking system and putting a new one inside, but
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we had to wait and go back in for plans. This stops you from getting
your rough inspection.
While we were doing this -- this house is way in from the road --
this is a classic -- someone stole the telephone pole. They sawed it off
at the bottom, so Collier Electric, they suggested -- I mean, Florida
Power & Light suggested that we go underground and not put another
pole there, they said, because they've had hurricane problems with
those poles and everything else.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Nobody will steal the ground.
MR. MANSOLILLO: That's right. We hope.
So, anyways, we can't -- we're all ready for all the rough
inspections, but we can't do it till we can turn on the electricity so we
can show the pump works, the water system works, and so on.
There was one inspection that failed. They designed it with a
two-by-six under the air conditioner framing. When, in actuality, it
was a hair off on the tilt, so we had to go back and change it to a
two-by-eight. It's been done.
It's just been a nightmare, small things, but I kind of enjoy doing
this stuff.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You probably like root canals also.
How long do you think it's going to take?
MR. MANSOLILLO: It's got to be six months because I can't get
the final inspections on the rough till after the two weeks when they
put it there. Now, we've even tried to, like, prep it up to go faster. We
put the Sheetrock on the ceiling because that doesn't have any
plumbing or HVAC going through it. And they already inspected the
electrical wires and the hookups, and they said it was okay, and they
told us where we could put some Sheetrock.
We're trying to go fast. I'd like to finish it up, but I got to figure
it's going to be another six months, because I just know something else
is going to go wrong.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Six months would bring us
from -- let's see.
MS. NICOLA: April 19, 2016.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: April 19, and our meeting? Let me
just take a look --
MS. NICOLA: I don't know when the meeting is.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'll tell you. We have a list in front
of us. We should probably let you -- the 29th, so that would be --
MR. ASHTON: The 29th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any problem, Ralph,
with extending this?
MR. BOSA: For the record, Ralph Bosa, Collier County Code
Enforcement. No, I leave it up to the Board to decide.
I do have the inspection reports here. And his permit is still valid.
Last inspection he had was 9/24/2015 for an electric rough, which did
pass. But it does show the telephone pole. It did fail; it didn't make it
past that inspection.
So he is staying on top of it. And I've been in contact either with
him or a representative from his side.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Comments from the Board?
Motions from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion to extend it to April 29th.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
extend it to April 29th.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. MANSOLILLO: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hopefully we won't see you in April.
MR. MANSOLILLO: Hopefully.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It will be done. It will be in
compliance.
MR. MANSOLILLO: Listen, I don't like getting up this early in
the morning anyways. After 70 you don't want to get up this early.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I know the feeling.
MR. MANSOLILLO: Thank you very much.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I just want to clarify. An extension, do the
fines -- are the fines still running or not?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This was a request for an extension
of time?
MS. ADAMS: That changes the compliance date.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes.
MS. ADAMS: So the fines are not running.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, okay.
MR. MANSOLILLO: I thought I was done. I'm sorry.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You are done.
MR. MANSOLILLO: Okay. Thank you very much.
MR. BOSA: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next motion for extension of time is No. 2,
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Tab 12, Case CESD20140017973, George Calderon and Tina
Calderon.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MR. CALDERON: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You get to talk first since you're the
one that is requesting an extension of six months.
MR. CALDERON: Yes, sir. Well, sir, I was able to submit the
paperwork on the permit, but it didn't go through. And according to
the statement, there's quite some things on here that I still have to do.
So that's the reason why I'm asking for the six months' extension.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What has been done on the property
since it was -- since you were noticed on it? Has there been any
activity? You applied for a permit? This was -- as I read this, this was
a room that was added with electricity but no permit; is that correct?
MR. CALDERON: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is that room occupied?
MR. CALDERON: It's got -- I'm using it as a storage room, so
I'm storing stuff in there, and that's about it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Again, this began, let's see. I
see an order in -- the second day of April is when the hearing is. Okay.
What have you actually done besides apply for a permit? Has there --
any physical work that's been done, or you're trying to get it inspected
and approved with an after-the-fact permit?
MR. CALDERON: Yes, sir. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm
trying to get the permit to go through in order to start doing anything
on the room.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. What are you going to do on
the room?
MR. MUCHA: Mr. Kaufman, if I could just clarify. He does
have a permit by affidavit, so they're trying to pass it -- get it permitted
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as it is already.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. MUCHA: He did submit for a permit. There was a couple
corrections that need to be made that was just sent out at the beginning
of October. Nothing that looks really too serious. One of the
comments here says, provide a more detailed location and distance of
the septic tank, something in regards to the storage door, and then
there's also a comment about the proposed use of a 220-volt outlet,
which I kind of want to know why, you know, because usually that's
for, like, a kitchen -- like a range or --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Dryer.
MR. MUCHA: Something of that nature. So they just want to
know more information. Nothing that looks -- doesn't look too serious
as far as getting these corrections passed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So you have an architect
that's working with you to get the affidavit; is that correct?
MR. CALDERON: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. It seems a little excessive,
180 days, to just do an affidavit. That's more or less paperwork. That's
what I'm looking at.
Comments from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: I agree. I think 180 is a long time just for
paperwork. I think 90 would be more than sufficient.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: If that's a motion, I'll second it.
MR. ASHTON: I'll make a motion for 90 days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
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MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
We're going to give you an extension, which means fines don't
start to accrue. They don't start charging you a fine for the next three
months. If it's not done in the next three months, you're going to have
to come back before the Board and let us know what progress has been
made, or the fines will be implemented. Okay?
MR. CALDERON: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Thank you.
MR. MUCHA: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next motion for extension of time is from
imposition of fines, No. 6, Tab 13, Case CESD20140009842, Kelly
Lynn Romine.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MR. SILVERO: Good morning, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We had a letter that was written to
you regarding this that the respondent's going to be in Tennessee for
three weeks. They were looking for a 30-day extension on this matter.
My concern on this -- you can give us your two cents on this -- is
that it looks like, unless it's wrong, that the assessed operational costs
have not been paid; is that correct?
MR. SILVERO: That's correct, sir.
MS. ADAMS: That's correct.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So if you could give us a
status on this.
MR. SILVERO: Good morning. For the record, Steven
Lopez-Silvero, Collier County Code Enforcement.
The status of the violation is they have obtained permits and they
have commenced inspections but not completed as of yet.
Due to the respondent being in Tennessee -- she was caring for
family that was ill. She should be back the first week of November --
she is requesting 30 days to complete inspections and have the CO
issued.
When I spoke to the respondent yesterday, she was unaware
operational costs -- or that there was operational costs due. She said as
-- or she stated as soon as she comes back she'll have that paid.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Comments from the Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: In reading the case, she did contact
the -- she did contact Code Enforcement. She has pulled the permits,
so there is activity that's going forward on this; is that correct?
MR. SILVERO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you have any problem
with granting an extension of time for a month?
MR. SILVERO: The county has no objection.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Sue?
MS. CURLEY: There's no electric or anything hazardous?
MR. SILVERO: No, ma'am.
MR. DOINO: Make a motion --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You'd like to make a motion?
MR. DOINO: Make a motion for 30 days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. DOINO: To the next meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Next meeting.
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MR. ASHTON: Could you put a stipulation that the extension --
as long as the operational costs are paid?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes.
MR. DOINO: Most definitely.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So the motion is to grant an
extension till November 30th.
MS. NICOLA: 20th.
MR. ASHTON: November 20th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Oh, I'm sorry. November 20th, and
that the operational costs will be paid prior to that date.
MR. SILVERO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. DOINO: Sounds good.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: She said --
MR. LEFEBVRE: She'll be back in three weeks, so more than
likely she'll probably bring a check to our meeting.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. As long as she gives it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN REPORTER: Who was the second?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Bob Ashton.
Okay. Any other discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thank you, Steve.
MR. SILVERO: Thank you, sir.
MS. ADAMS: The next case, Letter C, hearings, No. 1, Tab 1,
Case CEROW20140012496, Maria Padilla.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning. Could you state
your full name on the mike?
MR. GUDINAS: Good morning. My name is Jesus Gudinas
(phonetic). I'm the son of Maria Pedilla. She couldn't make it. She's
sick at home.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You have her permission to
represent her at this meeting?
MR. GUDINAS: Yes. I'm actually the one that actually's in
contact with the Code Enforcement.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. GUDINAS: She had bought the property next to a house
that she owns. We combined the properties, put a culvert in, and --
without the permit, then we --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me stop you a second. The
county should make their case first, and then you can explain
everything that you just started to explain, okay?
MR. GUDINAS: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay, great.
MR. KINCAID: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I didn't want to preempt you.
MR. KINCAID: That's all right. Thank you.
Good morning. For the record, Jim Kincaid, Collier County Code
Enforcement.
This is in reference to Case No. CEROW20140012496. It's
dealing with a violation of the Collier County Code of Law and
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Ordinances, Chapter 110, Article II, Division 1, Section 110-31A.
It's an enclosure of a swale in the right-of-way. It's -- the
violation location is 5341 Mitchell Street, Naples, Florida. Folio
Number is 62254520002.
Service was given on June the 24th, 2015.
And I would like to propose the following exhibits as evidence in
the case: One picture taken on June the 23rd, 2014; one picture taken
on June the 1st, 2015; one picture taken on October the 21st, 2015; and
one aerial photograph.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Has the respondent seen these
photos?
MR. KINCAID: He has not, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Why don't you show them to
the respondent. And then you let me know if those are pictures of the
property and if you have any objection to entering them into -- as
evidence.
MR. GUDINAS: They are the plants. The two of them is on
different spots now. We had to move the plants over because they
were on the right-of-way. So that -- I just want to clarify that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. But those are the pictures?
MR. GUDINAS: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Accept a motion for
accepting the photos as an exhibit.
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion to accept the photos as an
exhibit.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you.
MR. KINCAID: On June 23, 2014, Code Enforcement received a
complaint from the Collier County Road Maintenance Department that
work had been done in the right-of-way at 5341 Mitchell Street
without applicable permits.
I made a site visit on the same day and observed an enclosed
swale, and construction of a berm with a hedge in the right-of-way area
on June the 24th, 2014. NOV was issued and posted at the property.
Permit for the work was issued on July 31, 2014, and expired on
January 27, 2015.
The Road Maintenance Department granted a short extension to
that permit to complete the work. That also expired on July 1, 2015.
A search of CityView showed that a second permit had been
applied for and was in "under review" status, and as of this morning at
approximately 7:30, that permit remained in "ready for issuance"
status, and sometime between 8 o'clock and the time I arrived here for
the hearing the permit was issued.
And that's kind of where we stand. So there is a permit that has
been issued for the work, but it was issued --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: After the case was --
MR. KINCAID: This is -- you're getting on to -- June, July,
October -- 16 months, 15, 16 months long.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could you put the first
picture back up, Kerry.
MR. KINCAID: This was the original violation that Road
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Maintenance called Code Enforcement about, and Road Maintenance
called it in as 5341 . At that time it was actually two properties, two
separate folios. So there were two kind of concurrent cases running at
the same time, one on each property.
And since that time, the property -- before the permit -- or before
the permit was issued, the first permit, the properties were joined
together under one folio number. So this case addresses both
properties, which are now one folio.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The picture before with the green
grass, am I looking at the -- what am I looking at in this picture?
MR. KINCAID: Well, as you can see in this picture, the hedge
has been moved back.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. KINCAID: And this was done -- this work was done under
the permit that was pulled. I believe it was the one that expired on the
27th of January. That work was done at that time, but it's not
complete.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me ask, the pipe in
question, is that what I'm looking at there?
MR. KINCAID: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So that was put in prior to -- and I
see it only goes -- it spans that one area there. What happens after that
area? In other words, behind where the mailbox is, is there a swale
there? Is there a pipe there?
MR. KINCAID: Well, there's a second -- there's two lots there,
Lot 23 and Lot 24. So what the defendant did was he started at his
driveway pipe --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. KINCAID: -- and ran a pipe and built that berm and the
hedge all the way across the front of two properties. It was one solid
pipe. No breaks, no culvert ends, no nothing. It was just one pipe that
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went from Lot 23 all the way to the end of Lot 24. So where you see
that --
MR. LETOURNEAU: How about that right there? You could
point it out a little better on the aerial, couldn't you? Or no?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So it starts at the driveway
right where that car is. So there are two pipes there; is that correct?
MR. KINCAID: Yes, sir. This is a residence -- the residence
right here.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
MR. KINCAID: There is one pipe there now, and there's one
pipe down here now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. KINCAID: Originally, when we got the complaint to begin
with, from the right-hand side of Lot 23 all the way to the left-hand
side of Lot 24 was one solid pipe. It was covered, and the berm and
the hedge was built on top of it right at the street.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Then the -- I'm trying to get
this in time frame.
MR. KINCAID: Okay. Then the guy -- then the guy gets a
permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. KINCAID: He goes down. He applies for a permit.
Right-of-way issues him a permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: A permit to do what now?
MR. KINCAID: To install a driveway entry on Lot 24.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. KINCAID: Which is this entry right here.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So he -- he moved the hedge
back?
MR. KINCAID: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And he put a pipe in that goes -- that
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spans from Lot 23 -- from the right-hand side of Lot 23 to the left-hand
side of Lot 24?
MR. KINCAID: That was -- that was underneath the berm and
the hedge to begin with.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right. And then to do that, he had to
move the hedge back.
MR. KINCAID: Right. He moved the hedge back, dug that all
up.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And was that permit CO'ed?
MR. KINCAID: No, sir. That permit expired.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So was there a reason that it
wasn't CO'ed? They didn't apply for it or what?
MR. KINCAID: The work was never completed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. KINCAID: In other words, the issue now, as I understand it,
talking from Mr. Larry Humphreys at Road Maintenance, is that you
cannot have a driveway swale with a pipe. You cannot turn onto the
road onto dirt or grass.
So in order for him to get a CO on the permit, he has to pour --
where that pipe is on Lot 24, he has to bring that down to whatever
county specs are, but he also has to pour a concrete or asphalt or some
kind of hard-surface entry onto that lot from the street.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You mean between Lot 23 and 24?
MS. CURLEY: Even if he's not going to use it as an entryway to
the property?
MR. KINCAID: This area right here, there has to be a concrete
or hard-surface entry onto the property. He cannot enter that driveway
area onto grass or unpaved area.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Now, where -- are there cars
parked on that lot that I'm looking at? I just can't identify it.
MR. KINCAID: It's various pieces of commercial equipment and
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commercial vehicles.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So there's no -- no access to Lot 24 is
what the county is saying; is that correct?
MR. KINCAID: Correct, other than going around through the
back of Lot 23 or across the front yard of Lot 23 onto Lot 24. But
technically it's all one lot.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So now it is one lot?
MR. KINCAID: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you don't need that concrete on
Lot 24 if you can access the property from Lot 23.
MR. KINCAID: It does not need the concrete, but the driveway
pipe cannot be there unless the concrete is there. So he has two
options. Number one is to pour the hard-surface entry from the asphalt
onto the property, or remove the pipe, remove the pipe ends, and return
the swale to a permitted state and get it permitted; no pipe.
MR. LEFEBVRE: But now it's one lot.
MR. KINCAID: It is one lot, correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So then -- in the beginning of your testimony
you said that -- Lot 24, but there's no Lot 24 anymore. It's all --
MR. KINCAID: No. The lot's still there. It's one folio number.
There's two lots.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right.
MS. CURLEY: So -- I have a question. So you're interfering that
by him having this not-yet-finished piping that they may at some point
in the future use it as an access to the lot?
MR. KINCAID: Correct.
MS. CURLEY: So they either need to remove it --
MR. KINCAID: Correct.
MS. CURLEY: -- so there is an access or make it proper?
MR. KINCAID: Correct. It can be used at any time, or they
could subdivide it and make it two lots again and sell it.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me fast forward a little
bit.
MR. KINCAID: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You said that this morning a permit
was issued?
MR. KINCAID: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: To do what?
MR. KINCAID: To -- let me give you the exact wording off of
the permit. Completing construction of driveway with hard pavement.
MS. CURLEY: Perfect.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So he has applied for a permit to --
MR. KINCAID: Correct. The permit --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- correct the code violation?
MR. KINCAID: Correct. The permit was actually applied for in
June, and it has been in various states. It was under review when I first
observed it, but it's been sitting down there now for quite some time in
ready-for-issuance status and wasn't picked up.
So when it sat down there from June to October, I called Larry
Humphreys at Transportation Department, and he said that they were
not able, with their conversations with the property owner, to get the
property brought into compliance. He felt like the best solution to the
problem would be to bring it to CEB, get a compliance date, perhaps
some fines after that date if it wasn't brought into compliance. So I'm
not even sure that -- if he realizes now that the permit's been issued.
But what Code Enforcement is seeking here -- we don't have any
problem with a permit being issued. Our issue is that six months from
now we're going to be standing here again, and we're going to be
talking about the same issue, because we went over a year trying to get
this corrected, and it's not corrected.
So we would like to have the scope of the permit reduced to a few
-- as few a days as possible and have some type of fine attached to it, if
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it's not brought into compliance, to act as a motivation to get this work
either finished or returned to the original state and permitted and then
the case closed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. I don't think that we can
change the county ordinance or codes on how long a permit has. I
believe it's six months in between inspections; is that correct? So I
don't think we can change that.
But let's hear from the respondent and see what he has.
Obviously there's been some motivation here since a permit was pulled
today.
MR. GUDINAS: Well --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MR. GUDINAS: Good morning.
Well, if-- the permit wasn't pulled today. Actually we applied on
it on Month 6. It took this long because I kept meeting with the
transportation people. Because when my mom bought property, for
the same reason we joined it, she wanted the whole front pipe and
grass there. She didn't want a swale.
Well, we didn't know that the only way to do that, you needed a
right-of-way permit. We went and got the right-of-way permit, cut the
pipe, made the swale. We figured that the entrance, being that there's
-- it's one property now and you can access it from one side, that it
would be fine having that section with grass, because she doesn't want
the swale.
Well, we went back and forth. The permit expired. We didn't
know that we had to put a hard surface on that one lot. Well, it's one
now in that one section.
I met with three people from the Department of Transportation
and said, what do you guys need me to do? They couldn't give me an
answer. I said, I'll pull the pipe out. We'll make the swale just to get
this over. We met and met, and nobody ever got back to us.
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So, finally, I got a letter here on August 31st saying that we can --
I can give it to you guys. But we did put for a permit six months ago,
and now we picked up the permit today. We know that we've got to
put a hard surface. We don't know why, but we are going to do it
because you -- in order to have the pipe, you need a hard surface.
So, like I said, we do have a permit. It's not that we were not in
compliance. Nobody at one point in time said you need to put a hard
surface there or else we would have done it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I can understand your thought
on that. What I don't understand is if it is one lot -- I guess in the
future it can be divided into two lots. And I would think at that time
that hard surface would -- and I'm just trying to use logic -- would have
to be put in. Why would you have to put in a hard surface now if it's
one lot? As Jeff comes to the microphone.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. LETOURNEAU: For the record, Jeff Letourneau, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
I think we're losing focus of what code is up here for, and it is that
they put in -- they did work in that particular right-of-way without a
permit, and that's all we're asking for is him to get the permit,
inspections, and CO.
The right-of-way department has told him that they need a
driveway. If you're going to do that type of work in any swale in
Naples Manor, you're going to have to have a concrete assault apron in
there.
Now, I want to say that -- how long was that permit in
ready-to-issue status, Jim? Do you remember?
MR. KINCAID: I picked up on it --
MR. LETOURNEAU: Well, we're sitting here 15 months after
code first notified this gentleman that there was an issue, and he let the
original permit expire. They gave him two extensions. Those both
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expired. He applied for this permit for the apron in -- what was that,
again -- in August or --
MR. GUDINAS: Month 6.
MR. KINCAID: July -- I mean June.
MR. LETOURNEAU: And here we are in almost November,
and he picks up the permit the day of the hearing.
So Code's only asking for the gentleman to get the permit CO'ed
-- inspected and CO'ed for the work that was done in there. Whether
or not the apron -- that's kind of moot at this point, I believe.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, no, it's not moot. If the permit
that was pulled is completed, that would resolve the situation; is that
correct?
MR. LETOURNEAU: It would. The permit he has in his hand
right now would resolve the situation.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So let me try this. Are you
going to have that resolved?
MR. GUDINAS: Yes. We're going to put a hard surface. And,
again, it wasn't my doing. And it took from Month 6 -- I have the
same issue -- four months to get the permit. And I have a letter here
from the lady that actually provided --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me make this easy for
you. How long do you think it will take you to put that hard surface
in?
MR. GUDINAS: Well, we're going to take -- because of the
holidays coming and all that, the pavers that we are ordering, it takes
six weeks to get them in. And being that the holidays are coming in,
we are going to be done before the permit expires. The permit is
issued from -- they just issued it 10/15. It expires Month 4, 13 of 2016.
Again, because of somebody at the county not issuing the permit when
they needed to, we would have been done. So, like I said, we didn't
know at the beginning what hard surface they wanted. And like I --
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you're going to put pavers in as
your hard surface --
MR. GUDINAS: Pavers, correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- rather than a concrete slab or
asphalt?
MR. GUDINAS: Correct, because actually the other driveway is
actually pavers and, actually, the driveway wraps around the house,
which that's what my mother couldn't understand, why do we have to
have another entrance, but -- because of the culvert, I understand, so
that's where we're going to put a hard surface.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So in all likelihood, you will be done
probably in the next two months?
MR. GUDINAS: I would say 10 of January.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you think you'll be done
by January 29th?
MR. GUDINAS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Because that's our next meeting. Jeff
disappeared too quickly.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'm sorry. I apologize. I thought you
were done with me.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I still have a question. I still have some
questions.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Go ahead.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Lot 24, is that a row of hedges that's behind
the culvert?
MR. GUDINAS: Yes. That's on the property line.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. So you're going to put a driveway to a
row of hedges?
MR. GUDINAS: We're going to take them off, because they
can't seem to understand that we're not going to use it to -- but, yes,
we're going to take them off That way they want to go drive in, they
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can drive in.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I still don't understand why they're being
asked to put a hard surface in when there's no access to the property.
Once access was being granted, then at that point they should have to
put a hard surface in. If it's not going to be used as a driveway, why
would it need to have --
MR. LETOURNEAU: I believe that if you do that type of work
in the right-of-way in Naples Manor -- the only reason to do that type
of work is to put a driveway in.
I don't think you can have an enclosed culvert unless you have a
driveway. It has to be an open swale. So if you want the enclosed
culvert, you have to have the driveway. That's the only time they
allow a closed culvert; is that correct, Jim?
MR. KINCAID: I believe that's it.
MR. GUDINAS: Now, on that question, do I have to move those
plants or -- I could put the hard surface, but on the property we can
have plants, right?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I guess you can --
MR. LETOURNEAU: That's something -- I believe that if you
get the apron in there, you're -- that's a good question. You're going to
have to come down and --
MR. GUDINAS: Well, actually, the Department of
Transportation, that's where I met with three guys, because they can't
seem to think what -- and exactly, we have to put the hard surface,
we'll be in compliance. And he says, well, how you going to get
across? Well, there's another driveway over there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Tell him you're going to use a
bicycle.
MR. GUDINAS: No, actually we have a big -- I have a big truck.
And I said, I'll drive over the plants, and you can be here when I do it.
That way you can --
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MR. LEFEBVRE: How far in does he have to go with the
driveway?
MR. GUDINAS: Just to the property line.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So the right-of-way has to be covered?
MR. GUDINAS: Right to the property line.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you're going to put pavers in from
the road?
MR. GUDINAS: To the property line.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: To the trees.
MR. GUDINAS: Yes.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I got to say, bottom line, though -- Mr.
Padilla -- is it Padilla; is that your name?
MR. GUDINAS: Yes, that's my mother.
MR. LETOURNEAU: If-- if they would have got the permit in
the beginning before they did the work, they would have probably
known what they could have done, instead of just doing it without the
permit.
MR. GUDINAS: Well, again, we figured we could -- before, you
could put a pipe and put grass, but now the codes have changed, so
that's why.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Why don't we cut to the chase
here.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion a violation exists.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah.
MR. DOINO: I'll second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion that a violation
exists, and we have a second.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
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MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. A violation -- it carries. A
violation exists.
Now, to resolve it, if someone would like to take a shot at a
motion, I would think January 29th. Even though your permit goes
farther than that, you think you can have everything done by January
29th?
MR. GUDINAS: Yes. Once I call the inspections and all that
and everything passes, then we don't have to come back here again?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's correct.
MR. GUDINAS: I won't have to come back because of the
bushes being on the front?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, if you're in compliance,
someone's going to come there, undoubtedly, and see that you have a
road that goes to nowhere. But they have built those in the past.
MR. GUDINAS: Yes, they have.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They have one called Oil Well. It's a
big highway out -- but would that satisfy the county that it's done by
the 29th?
MR. KINCAID: Yes, sir.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Definitely.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Jeff, go hide.
Okay. Would someone like to make a motion to that effect, or
would you like me to make a motion?
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MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. Let's see.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Basically it's to complete the permit
by the 29th of January, which is our next meeting.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Twenty-ninth of January 2016, right-of-way,
everything must be --
MS. NICOLA: I just have a question. If the permit doesn't expire
until April and if the Board cannot reduce the time allowable under the
permit because it was issued by the Building Department, I'm
assuming --
MR. GUDINAS: We'll have it done before that.
MS. NICOLA: -- then I'm just wondering how we can fine him if
his permit is still valid and not expired by the time that we bring him
back in January. That's my only quandary as an attorney. How do you
fine somebody and say they're not in compliance if their permit's still
valid? It worries me a little bit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, I think it's been on the books
and been going back and forth for an excessive period of time. The
respondent feels that he can get it done by the 29th. I don't have any
problem with an order for -- that takes it to the 29th. And should it not
be finished by the 29th, he would come back before us.
MS. NICOLA: I mean, I'm just thinking -- practically speaking, I
think it would make more sense, in my opinion, to continue it until the
29th for, like, a status to see where he's at with it versus having this be
a violation order and then, you know, we can impose fines. It doesn't
make logical sense to me to impose fines when there's an open permit
that's not going to expire for another three months.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me ask this question. Had that
permit been issued last week instead of this morning, would we be here
in this situation now?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Possibly, just because of the history of the
expirations of the original permits. We've brought permit cases before
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the Board and the Special Magistrate before even when they had the
permit issued because some people -- and I'm not saying this to this
gentleman, but some people like to play the game of, they get the
hearing notice, they get the permit issued, they let it expire, and they
just keep doing the same thing, and eventually we want the Board to
make a decision on -- and pin the person down to get this thing taken
care of. That's basically what we want to do.
Now, I'm not saying that's in this instance, but the gentleman did
get the permit the day of the hearing, so we felt it best to bring it
forward at this point.
MR. GUDINAS: Well -- and, like I said, I did apply for it four
months ago.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Mr. Lefebvre, would you
continue with your motion?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Sure. Well, what I want to first say is, yes, he
has a permit for six months but unlike where, let's say, you go to build
a house, you don't build a house first and then say, I'm going to go get
a permit. So at that point, when you go to build a house, there's no
violation. Now there's a violation on the property. So it's a little bit
different than if you went and got the permit and then did the work, so
there is a violation.
So with that being said, grant him until January 29, 2016, or a fine
of$150 a day will be imposed and then, No. 2 would be -- we'll keep
the same, and operational costs to be paid within 30 days in the amount
of 65.01, if I see this correctly.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do we have a second for that
motion?
MS. BUSHNELL: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second. Okay.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think it meets everybody's criteria.
The county's happy. You happy?
MR. GUDINAS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Your plants are happy.
MR. GUDINAS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you.
MR. GUDINAS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is No. 3, Tab 3, Case
CEAU20150003344, Bradley Goodson and Leigha Wilson.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MS. GARCIA: For the record, Shirley Garcia, Collier County
Code Enforcement.
I would like to request the Board hear No. 4 first and No. 6, since
they're the same ordinance violation, same owners. They're adjacent
properties with the same issue on it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You want to modify the
agenda to show 4, 6, and then 3; is that correct?
MS. GARCIA: That's correct.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
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MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. Case 4.
MS. GARCIA: For the record, Shirley Garcia, Collier County
Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to Case No. CELU20140025168 and
CELU20140025432 dealing with the violations of Collier County
Code -- Land Development Code 04-41, as amended, Section 2.03.03.
It's outside storage consisting of, but not limited to, numerous
household items, washers, plastics, metals, vehicles, car parts, tires, et
cetera.
The location of the violations are 2448 Florida Avenue and 2432
Florida Avenue; Folio 75760120006 and 75760160008.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Are both of those folios owned by
the same person?
MS. GARCIA: Yes, they are.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. GARCIA: Service was given on March 13, 2015. And I
would like to present case evidence in the following exhibits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't you describe what they
are, five photos, three, whatever it is.
MS. GARCIA: Okay. On December 18, 2014, I took a photo,
and I'd like to submit that into evidence. I have an aerial view, October
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21, 2015. I have more -- and also I have more photos from April 17,
2015, and another aerial of the --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you count --just give us a
total of the amount of pictures you have, and then we'll take a motion
from the Board to accept them. Do I hear a motion?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion to accept.
MR. DOINO: Second.
MS. GARCIA: Eight photos.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion to accept
the eight photos. We have a motion.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Okay.
MS. GARCIA: I originally received the complaint December 18,
2014. A case was opened. After research, it has -- it was shown that
there was two separate addresses, two separate folio numbers, so I
addressed them both at the same time and opened a second case. I
went out, and on my initial complaint on December 23rd, I took
photos. I observed multiple outside storage uses that are prohibited by
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the ordinance.
And I made a site visit on the 23rd, and I spoke with the girlfriend
of the owner -- she was available -- and explained to her what the
complaint was and that it was a violation to keep the outside storage.
That was on October 21st.
Yesterday I went out, and it's even worse than when I originally
got the complaint, so...
She was very cooperative in the beginning. She was saying thank
you to me because she's been trying to clean up this property, that her
boyfriend keeps piling stuff on, and she wants to get it cleaned up. So
I worked with her. I gave her extensions. I provided cleanup dates
where they had free dumpsters where they could be provided with
those. And I went out and offered my assistance. If she needed any
help, I'd be glad to, you know, give her recycling days for bulk pickup
as well. I dropped off brochures from the recycling centers and also
for public utilities that do bulk pickup for free.
There was numerous household items. I also provided her
locations where they could recycle and sell the items per weight. A lot
of it was metals which they could earn money from if they went out to
the recycling centers that were out in town or Fort Myers, give her
those locations, and advised that, you know, she could do that as well.
They did have a trailer, so that was accessible to them, and they had a
truck, so...
It was some improvement over the months. I went back in April
15th, and it was a significant improvement on the one address at 2432
Florida where the main primary structure was, but it was still not
significant enough for me to close it. There was still some outside
storage.
I recommended what -- she had a garage on the 2448 address. I
recommended they put it in there. She said it was packed. I told her I
could not close out the case until it was completely abated.
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They had numerous items on 2448 still, so, again, I proceeded
with the hearings.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And Bradley Goodson is the
boyfriend?
MS. GARCIA: Yes, sir. He's the listed owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And Wilson is the --
MS. GARCIA: I've never met -- I believe at one point that was
his wife when they purchased. She's not in the picture, but she's still
listed as the owner of the property.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, any comments from the
Board? Does anybody see that there might possibly be a violation
there?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion a violation exists.
MS. BUSHNELL: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second that
a violation exists. Any comments on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Do you have a suggestion for us?
MS. GARCIA: I do. I have a recommendation. They're going to
be separate recommendations.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: For each case, I understand.
MS. GARCIA: Perfect. We'll start out with CELU20140025432.
The description of the violation, outside storage consisting of, but not
limited to, numerous household items, metals, plastic —
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hold on. Slow down. It's coming.
MS. GARCIA: Oh, sorry.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. GARCIA: The recommendation is that the Code
Enforcement Board order the respondent to pay all operational costs in
the amount of 65.01 in this case within 30 days and abate all violations
by ceasing and removing all outside storage use or store in a
completely enclosed garage or building within blank days of this
hearing, or a fine of blank per day will be imposed until the violation is
abated.
Number 2, that the respondent must notify the code enforcement
investigator when the violation has been abated in order for the
investigator to conduct a final inspection to confirm abatement. If the
respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate the
violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance or
may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs Department to
enforce the provisions of this order, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me ask a couple of quick
questions.
MS. GARCIA: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have a separate case, without
me looking through everything, for vehicles that don't have tags on
them, or is that part of this?
MS. GARCIA: No. That was just new on the property. The
other vehicles were licensed, and they were operable when the case
originally started.
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When I went back yesterday, there were multiple inoperable
unlicensed vehicles that just appeared, but -- so I -- at the time the case
was open, that was not the issue.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. GARCIA: There were just a lot of metal parts and car parts
not an actual frame and the vehicles that you saw in the current photo.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody want to take a shot
at a motion?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Another question. In your estimation, how
many dumpsters, like large -- like 30 cubic yard, large dumpsters
would it take to get rid of this stuff? Any kind of idea?
MS. GARCIA: I've done a lot of cleanups. Maybe six or seven,
possibly.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Wow.
MS. GARCIA: Between the two addresses now.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. So it's no small feat? It's not like a
weekend project where you go out and --
MS. GARCIA: Originally in December, when it started, if they
would have done little by little -- because it wasn't as much as it is
yesterday. I mean, it was small compared to what is out there. A lot of
it was on trailers. They had several trailers when I originally got the
complaint. And most of the stuff, most of it, was on -- packed on the
trailers. Now they're just everywhere.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this a business that's being run
there, or is --
MS. GARCIA: I didn't get the feel that there was. The owner, I
only spoke to him on a few occasions because he works someplace out
of this county. So I think it's -- either he brings it in -- I don't know. I
can't -- she said he likes to hoard things, and their house is the same
way in the interior, and the garage is the same way in the interior.
That's why she couldn't put a lot of the stuff in the garage.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this RS 1?
MS. GARCIA: It's RSF --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: RSF 1?
MS. GARCIA: I believe, yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Six.
MS. GARCIA: Each one. I'll look.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's a residential.
MS. GARCIA: It's a residential, that's correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, it sounds like if he's not in town, she has
the liberty to get rid of stuff.
MS. GARCIA: Well, he works a lot, she says; like 80 hours a
week. And she did. She made significant improvements in the
beginning on the one address where their home is. Unfortunately, it
was -- it was not enough.
MR. LEFEBVRE: A couple questions I asked -- sorry for cutting
you off-- is to see how long it would take to remove this. If it was just
a few items, you know, 15 days or so. But I think it sounds like it's
going to take longer.
So let me try to give this a shot. The operational costs to be paid
within 30 days of 65.01, and in No. 1 -- let me see -- within 45 days of
this hearing or a fine of$200 a day will be imposed.
MR. DOINO: Second.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I have a question. Forty-five days
kind of puts us in the middle of our meetings. No meeting in
December.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thirty days takes us to the end of--
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almost to the end of November.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yeah. I thought about that but, realistically,
you know, if he's working a lot of hours, I want to give him time to
actually -- give him an effort to remove it. I mean, if you give him too
short of a period, he's just going to throw his hands up and not --
MR. DOINO: Take it to January.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So I'm thinking 45 days will take you until
mid December, and then --
MS. NICOLA: December 6th.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Then we can look at our meeting and see
where -- in January.
MR. DOINO: In January.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, if you're going to give him
extra time, why don't you give him 60 days, and then that's -- our
meeting is after the 60 days.
MS. NICOLA: Sixty days would be December 21st.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Twenty-first.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Fifteen days isn't going to hurt anybody, so
that'd be fine. I amend my motion to 60 days.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll amend my second.
MR. DOINO: Mine also.
MR. LEFEBVRE: There are several cases.
MR. DOINO: My second also.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is one of three.
MR. LEFEBVRE: One of four, actually.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second.
Any other discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
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MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Okay. That
takes care of Tab 4.
Which brings us to?
MS. ADAMS: That was actually Tab 6.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Tab 6.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Now we're going to 4.
MS. ADAMS: Now we're going to 4.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All right. Now we're going to 4.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Then we're going to go to 3, then to 5.
(The speaker was previously duly sworn and indicated in the
affirmative.)
MS. GARCIA: Correct.
This is in reference to CELU20140025168. The recommendation
is that the Code Enforcement Board order the respondent to pay all
operational costs in the amount of$65.01 incurred in the prosecution
of this case within 30 days and abate all violations by ceasing and
removing all outside storage use or store in a completely enclosed
garage or building within blank days of this hearing, or a fine of blank
per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
The respondent must notify the code enforcement investigator
when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a final
inspection to confirm abatement. If the respondent fails to abate the
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violation, the county may abate the violation using any method to
bring the violation into compliance, may use the assistance of the
Collier County Sheriffs Office to enforce the provisions of this order,
and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Just for the record, we're
hearing these -- one hearing and voting on each case individually.
MS. GARCIA: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Now, Gerald, you did such a
wonderful job on the last motion, would you like to take a shot at this
one?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, do you have any other pictures that --
MS. GARCIA: Well, I put them all together --
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's all inclusive.
MS. GARCIA: -- in the same because they were joining
properties, so --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do we have to enter that as evidence for this
case, too?
MS. NICOLA: I don't think so.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We heard them together.
MS. GARCIA: Together.
MS. NICOLA: You kind of heard them together, so I don't think
it makes sense to repeat it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. Operational costs be paid in the
amount of 65.01 and, No. 1, 60 days of this hearing or a $200 fine will
be imposed. So we'll keep it the same as the previous.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion, and we
have a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
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MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thank you.
Which brings us to?
MS. GARCIA: Number 3.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Tab?
MS. ADAMS: It's going to be No. 3, Tab 3, Case
CEAU20150003344, Bradley Goodson and Leigha Wilson.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
(The speaker was previously duly sworn and indicated in the
affirmative.)
MS. GARCIA: For the record, Shirley Garcia, Collier County
Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to CEAU20150003344.
The violation location is 2432 Florida Avenue. The reason why
I'm saying these ones separately is because yesterday there was a
permit issued on one of the addresses, so I would like to keep that
separate. I was going to join them together the same since they're both
fence-permit violations, but she did come in and expedite a permit for
one of the addresses.
This originally came in after the land use. Once I observed the
violations on the land use cases, I was called from another
complainant. We got another call and a complaint that they started to
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install a privacy fence without a permit.
I had to return back to the property in February 18th, and I did
observe that they did start to install. It was leaning, actually -- the
partitions were leaning on the chain link.
I went back on February 20th, and I spoke to Shelaya (phonetic)
-- she's the girlfriend of the property owner -- and she did say that they
were going to install -- they had partial installations of the partition of
the privacy fence.
I spoke with her and advised that they would need a permit. She
said that she didn't realize that because it was only in the front. They're
not doing the other sides. I conducted research. I returned back to the
office, conducted research and found that there was no permits ever
pulled for the chain link on 2432.
So I went back and spoke with her. I called her on several
occasions, explained that one of the addresses never had a chain-link
fence permit pulled. The other one on 2448 did; however, they altered
it; voids out the original permit.
She said that they would apply for the permit. She was being very
cooperative in the beginning. I even brought Renald Paul because she
said her boyfriend, Mr. Goodson, who owns the property, works a lot
of hours. It was very inconvenient for him to come in.
Mr. Paul did come out, and he notarized the applications for them,
two separate applications for the chain-link fence and the privacy fence
in the front.
I'd like to present case evidence of my initial visits on there with
the chain-link fence originally in December 18th. That was part of my
land use cases, but it does show that there was a chain-link fence in the
front.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: How many photos do you have that
you'd like to present?
MS. GARCIA: Six, seven; seven total.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Can I get a motion to accept
the exhibits?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept the seven photos.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MS. GARCIA: After I spoke with her and we brought Renald
Paul out to notarize the permit applications, they understood very
clearly what Mr. Paul was telling them, that since there were two
separate addresses, they would still need two separate permits applied
for and issued. They could join them together, but it would have to be
two separate applications.
She called me two days ago. I -- and she told me that she did
apply for the one to install the permit -- privacy fence on 2448. I asked
her how come she didn't apply for the second one on 2432 since she
was there? She said that she didn't need it, that fence was existing, and
that I need to get my stuff together and not bother her anymore.
So that was the last conversation.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you got your stuff together, and
these are the photos of the --
MS. GARCIA: That's correct.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. It appears that they put the
privacy fence up to block out some of the stuff.
MS. GARCIA: That's correct, so we could not observe, and that
was exactly what the owner told me. He says, I'm putting up this
6-foot privacy fence so you cannot see on my property. It's my
property. I can store what I want on it.
I explained to him it's a violation. He would have to store it in a
fully enclosed enclosure. He said, well, if you can't see it, I won't let
you on my property. This is the way it's going to be, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Okay. Comments from the
Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It looks to me like a violation might
exist. Anybody want to make a motion to that effect?
MR. DOINO: Make a motion.
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion a violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion --
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- and a second that a violation
exists.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
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Now, you have a suggestion for us?
MS. GARCIA: I do. Oh, I think I broke this thing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's $112.46.
MS. GARCIA: The Code Enforcement Board -- the
recommendation is that the Code Enforcement Board order the
respondent to pay all operational costs in the amount of 65.01 incurred
in the prosecution of this case within 30 days and abate all violations
by, one, obtaining all required Collier County building permit,
inspections, and certificate of completion and occupancy within blank
days of this hearing, or a fine of blank per day will be imposed until
the violation is abated.
That the respondent must notify the code enforcement
investigator when the violation has been abated in order to conduct a
final inspection to confirm abatement.
If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate
the violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance
and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs Office to
enforce the provisions of this order, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Does anybody -- I have a
suggestion, by the way, for whoever makes the motion, that you make
it concurrent with the other one as far as dates. Should somebody have
to come here, they don't have to come here different dates. So, Mr.
Doino.
MR. DOINO: All right. Well, why don't we go with the -- take a
stab at it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. DOINO: Thirty days, the operational costs of 65.01 be paid.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. DOINO: Is it 60 days or --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yep.
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MR. DOINO: -- 60 days -- within 60 days, and a fine of$200 a
day.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. DOINO: Run concurrent.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any comments from the
Board? How about a second?
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Can we take the cases out of order so that we don't have to have
these folks wait? We generally don't get done till six o'clock at night.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Seven o'clock, I believe.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Seven o'clock.
MR. LEFEBVRE: We have one more case for this, though,
right?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Oh, yeah. Okay. We have one more
of this and then --
MS. GARCIA: One more, and it will be faster.
(The speaker was previously duly sworn and indicated in the
affirmative.)
MS. GARCIA: Again, this is in reference to Case No.
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CEAU20150003345.
The property location is 2548 Florida Avenue; folio is
75760120006.
Service was given on March 13, 2015.
I would like to now present case evidence in the following
exhibits: Three photos that were taken.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Which tab is this?
MR. DOINO: I think it's 4.
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion to accept the three photos as
evidence.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you.
MS. GARCIA: Again, with this property address, there was a
chain-link fence originally in 1994, I believe, for a chain-link fence
only for that lot, No. 2448. It was enclosing only one address.
Since it was altered at that time -- I don't know what date it was
originally altered and surrounded both separate addresses -- it makes
the original permit null and void.
Then after they installed -- started installing the privacy fence in
the front, I advised the same, and that they would need a new permit to
be re-applied for and inspections and CO.
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As of two days ago, they did get a permit for the 2448 Florida
Avenue address. It was just one. And it's to -- for the chain link and
for the privacy fence in the front, but it's only supposed to be a 4-foot.
There's no 6-foot. Right now the chain -- the privacy fence is 6-foot in
height.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You explained that to them,
that it's a 6-foot?
MS. GARCIA: That's correct. Actually, Renald Paul explained it
to them. He works in the Building Department. He explained what
the height requirement is. He told me their conversation was they were
going to cut it to meet the 4-foot height in requirements because they
would not pass their inspections. And if they have a failed inspection,
it's another fee. So that was a concern that she had was that she
couldn't afford it in the first place.
So after I spoke with her, she didn't want to apply for the 24. She
thinks that encompasses both parcels. I told her that it didn't. She
would have to go back to Renald. He can explain the building codes
and what the requirements were for both parcels. She got upset and
hung up on me.
I don't know if we can give them longer than -- the permit's good
until, I believe, April 17, 2016, since it was just issued. So I don't
know if we have to extend it to that date. But it's one inspection. Fence
permits doesn't require a lot. It's, you pull it, it gets issued, there's one
CO, final inspection, and they're done.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, this is similar to a case
we heard today where there were numerous violations, and we -- to
make it easier actually for the respondent, if you had everything in on
the same day, should they have to come back here, it would probably
be to their advantage. If they came back here and say, we still have
two months left on that permit, we'd have to say -- we'd have to agree.
So anybody like to -- you have a suggestion for us?
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MS. GARCIA: The recommendation is that the Code
Enforcement Board order the respondent to pay all operational costs in
the amount of 65.01 incurred in the prosecution of this case within 30
days and abate also violations by getting all the required Collier
County inspections and certificate of completion within blank days of
the hearing, or a fine of blank per day will be imposed until the
violation is abated.
If the respondent -- the respondent must notify the code
enforcement investigator when the violation has been abated in order
to conduct a final inspection to confirm abatement.
If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate
the violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance
and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriffs Office to
enforce the provisions of this order, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any comments on -- or
motion, fill in the blanks?
MR. ASHTON: I'll take a shot.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion that the 65.01 be paid, obtain
Collier County permits, inspections, et cetera, within 60 days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The 65.01 to be paid within how
many days?
MR. ASHTON: Oh, and 30 days. Sorry about that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASHTON: And obtain all permits and inspections within 60
days, was the other ones, and we'll give them a fine of 150 a day.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I thought the other one was 200.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It was.
MR. ASHTON: We'll give them cheaper on this one.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This one -- it's on sale today. They
did pull a permit on it, so it's a different fine.
MS. GARCIA: Right.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have a second on that.
All those in -- hold on a second.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'm sorry. I was -- did you guys find a
violation, or did you just go right to the recommendation or --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, I thought we did find a violation.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I don't think --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, let's try. Does anybody want
to make a motion that a violation exists?
MR. DOINO: Make a motion a violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second. All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Okay.
Okay. Thanks, Jeff.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. On your motion, 65.01 to be
paid within 30 days, 60 days to abate the violation, or $150 a day
thereafter. And we have a second.
MR. DOINO: Yes.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you.
How are our fingers doing?
THE COURT REPORTER: I'm okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Are you sure? Mr. Lavinski would
force me to have a break right now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you folks want to -- or you're
enjoying sitting here?
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: It's up to you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What tab would they be?
MS. ADAMS: They're Tab 10, I believe. There's somebody
present for Tab 10 and for Tab 15. So I don't know if you want to take
them out of order. We can do that if you want.
MR. DOINO: How many cases?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What does the Board think? Yes?
MR. ASHTON: I think we should.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let's take them out of order.
MR. ASHTON: Take them out of order.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. So then the next case will be from --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. We're going to do tab what
first?
MS. ADAMS: It will be Tab 10 is the next person that's present
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in line of the agenda.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And then Tab 15.
MS. ADAMS: And then Tab 15 would be the next person that's
present.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Can we get a motion to
modify the agenda to reflect that?
MR. DOINO: Make a motion.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Motion.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Second. All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Okay.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. So the next case will be from No. 6, old
business, Letter A, motion for imposition of fines/liens, No. 3, Tab 10,
Case CESD20150002007, Craig Daniels and Martha Daniels.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MS. DANIELS: Do I start?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
mike?
MS. DANIELS: For the record, my name is Martha Daniels,
owner of the property at 223 Gladys Court, Copeland, Florida.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And, Steve, you're up.
MR. SILVERO: Good morning.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MR. SILVERO: For the record, Steven Lopez-Silvero, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
The respondent would like to request an extension of time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Why don't you give us --
MS. DANIELS: Well, I was hoping that this would all be
completed and have a CO by now, but I won't give you the reasons
why, but -- but anyhow, I actually did -- when I passed the final
building inspections, I thought everything was done and I would be
having a CO and reporting to Mr. Lopez that, but come to find out,
through his help, that the CO is pending an elevation certificate.
Because I'm -- because I don't do this all the time and I hired a
general contractor, I thought they were taking care of everything, but
I've had to baby-sit them and hold their hand all the way.
So at this point I have requested and talked with the county, and
they do have one on file, and they've had to order it through records.
But discussing with Mr. Lopez, I will probably have to have more of a
current updated elevation certificate.
So I'm in the process of checking into that. And if I have to, I
have a surveyor, Mr. Mel Hatton, that's already done everything, and I
can just contact him and have him do me up a new elevation
certificate.
And hopefully -- by your next meeting, November 20th of'f 15,
hopefully Mr. Lopez can report to you that everything is final,
complete, and CO in hand.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Comments from the Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any problem with
extending this till the next meeting?
MR. SILVERO: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I thought that the elevation
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certificate, just -- if it was done five years ago or 10 years ago, unless
there was a volcano that raised the property, would be the same. I
don't quite understand that, but that's a different department, I'm sure.
MS. DANIELS: Well, I'm kind of at the same place you are, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, okay. But the county hasn't
been able to produce it either?
MS. DANIELS: Well, just this week, was it -- or it was just in
the last few days that -- or I've lost track of time. But, anyhow, I did
request and the county told me it would take a couple of days because
they didn't have it digitally on file.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. DANIELS: That they were having to, you know, go to the
archives or whatever.
So I'm going to check with them today after I leave here and see
if they've received that yet and find out what exactly I have to do.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So if they do have the
elevation certificate, will that -- then you'll have to get the CO,
probably in the same neck of the woods with the county and
Horseshoe. So by next month, we should have this thing -- hopefully it
would be abated.
MS. DANIELS: Yeah. From my understanding, the only thing
pending CO is the elevation certificate.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. CURLEY: I have a question.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes.
MS. CURLEY: Is this a new mobile home on this property from
the original one?
MS. DANIELS: Well, yes. It is a replacement.
MS. CURLEY: So the elevation certificate will be different.
MS. DANIELS: So then I'll need to acquire a new one then?
MS. CURLEY: More than likely.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I don't know if it's an elevation of the
finished floor in the trailer or the ground. They generally show both
numbers.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody like to make a
motion on this?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion to give an extension to our next
meeting in November.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You want an extension or a
continuance? Continuance, the fines keep on accruing. Extension,
they don't.
MR. ASHTON: Well, I think she's been working diligently to try
to get -- I mean, since it's down to one -- paperwork that the county's
got to produce.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: So it's an extension?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So it's an extension.
MR. ASHTON: Extension.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. To the next meeting, to
November 20th. Okay.
MR. DOINO: Second it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
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MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you.
MS. DANIELS: Thank you. Hopefully you'll have a CO.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is No. 8, Tab 15, Case
CESD20140019519, Stephen Shane Clary and Christopher Jason
Clary.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MR. CLARY: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
microphone so we can hear you?
MR. CLARY: My name is Stephen Clary.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And you are?
MS. THOMAS: Tina Thomas.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Okay. So you're asking
something, that's why you're before us.
MS. THOMAS: We have disconnected all the power and the
water to the mobile homes that were back there. We have been in
contact -- well, I have been in contact with an Eric Watson -- I'm
waiting for him to call me back -- to see about burning the trailer, the
mobile home, to get it off of the property. So right now I'm just at a
standing point of waiting for him to call back to see if we can get it
resolved and get the mobile home taken care of and get it out of there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this a thing you can hook it to a
trailer and just --
MS. THOMAS: Oh, no, sir. No, sir. No, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So it's a mobile home that's not on
wheels?
MS. THOMAS: Yes, sir.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I notice that the operational
costs of 65.43 have not been paid.
MS. THOMAS: I'm on my way after we leave here to go to
Horseshoe Drive and take care of it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. THOMAS: Also, I wanted to state that we've been flooded
out there. We've been in knee-deep water the whole summer, so we
haven't been able to really get anything done other than disconnecting
the power and the water and stuff.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I assume that they're -- there's
nobody living in the trailer?
MS. THOMAS: Oh, no, sir. He's in jail.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Eric? Do you have any
comments?
MR. SHORT: For the record, Senior Investigator Eric Short,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
I know they do hold water out there. When I was out there a year
ago, I had to put some boots on to look at the violation.
They are partially in compliance. Part of the order was to
disconnect the power and utilities and to have the structures not
occupied, and they've done that.
Originally they had intended to split the property and move one of
the mobile homes to one side of the property. Now they're looking at
doing a controlled burn with the fire department. I'm not too familiar
with the requirements with that. I assume if they do that, they --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Probably -- it won't burn very well if
it's knee high in water.
MR. SHORT: Well, we're getting dried out.
MS. THOMAS: Yeah. It's drying out. It's just swampland.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Comments from the Board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: How much time are you looking for?
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MS. THOMAS: Honestly, sir, I don't know. I have to wait for
Mr. Watson to call me back, and --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, we have to have some kind of--
MS. THOMAS: I mean, 30, 60 days. I mean, we've got to be
able to have them get their equipment back there to -- you know, to do
the burn and stuff. So, like I said, we are drying out right now. It's just
mud, you know. So I would say 30 or 60 days at least.
MR. LEFEBVRE: We could load up our meeting for January.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Go ahead. Make a motion, Mr.
Lefebvre.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to extend to our January 29th
meeting, so...
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second.
MR. SHORT: If I may comment. Can we continue this case and
not do an extension, just so we continue the fines?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I'll change my motion to continuing it instead
of extending it.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Ditto my second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second. Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
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(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. CLARY: Thank you.
MS. THOMAS: Have a good evening.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't we take 10 minutes.
(A brief recess was had.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd like to call the Code Enforcement
Board back to order.
We are up to?
MS. ADAMS: Next case, No. 6, old business, A, motion for
imposition for fines/liens, No. 1, Tab 8, Case CESD20150002056,
REG8, Berkshire Commons, LLC.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MS. PEREZ: Good morning. For the record, Cristina Perez,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is in regards to CEB Case No. CESD20150002056.
Violations: Collier County Land Development Code 04-41, as
amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
Location: 7063 Radio Road, Naples, Florida; Folio No.
23945007103.
Description is unpermitted interior renovations consisting of, but
not limited to, exposed structural studs, electric and plumbing adjacent
to a firewall between a nail spa and Subway restaurant.
Past orders: On June 30, 2015, the Code Enforcement Board
issued a finding of fact, conclusion of law and order. The respondent
was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and ordered to
correct the violation. See the attached order of the Board, OR5179,
Page 233, for more information.
The violation has been abated as of September 30, 2015.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at the
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rate of$200 per day for the period between September 28, 2015, to
September 30, 2015, two days, for a total fine of$400.
Previously assessed operational costs of$65.85 have been paid.
Operational costs for today's hearing is $63.75. Total amount is
$463.75.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, they missed the date by
two days, but it's abated.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to abate.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
abate the fine. All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MS. PEREZ: Thank you.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is No. 7, Tab 14, Case
CESD20150002065, Randy Holton.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. KINCAID: This is in reference to Case No.
CESD20150002065, violation of the Collier County Land
Development Code 04-41, as amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a).
Violation location is 5341 Martin Street, Naples, Florida. Folio is
62098320002.
Description of the violation is an unpermitted shed and animal
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cages on improved residential property.
On August 27, 2015, the Code Enforcement Board issued a
finding of fact, conclusion of law and order. Respondent was found in
violation of the referenced ordinances and ordered to correct the
violation. See the attached order of the Board, OR5194, Page 3094,
for more information.
The violation has not been abated as of October 22, 2015. Fines
have accrued at a rate of$100 per day for the period between
September 27, 2015, to October 22, 2015, 25 days, for a total fine
amount of$2,500.
Fines continue to accrue.
Previously addressed (sic) operational costs of$65.01 have not
been paid. Operational costs for today's hearing, $63.33. And the total
amount is $2,628.34.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Have you been in contact with these
folks at all?
MR. KINCAID: I have not, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You've posted the property, et cetera.
No calls, no response whatsoever?
MR. KINCAID: Yes, sir. I believe the problem in the case is that
there is a tenant in the property, but the property owner has never
changed the mailing address to his mailing address. So all the county
documents that we're required to mail are mailed to the address in
Naples Manor, so --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The address.
MR. KINCAID: -- we have no way of knowing that he's
receiving any documents that we're mailing him.
I tried to do a check through the phone, you know, reverse
address, and I can't find any callable phone number that -- where we
can contact. It's a simple thing to abate, and I think he would do that,
but I just can't find any avenues to contact him.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, how about the tenant? Does
the tenant --
MR. KINCAID: Well, the tenant, we have -- I have talked to the
tenant. I have had -- the lady that is normally there on the property
speaks very little English, so I have had two different
Spanish-speaking investigators from Code Enforcement go there and
actually talk to them. And her husband at one time did come into the
county building, and we did talk with the interpreter to Renald Paul in
the building department, and the cases were discussed.
And most of the animal cages and stuff have been removed, but
the tenant wouldn't remove the shed because he said it wasn't his to
remove and that he would contact the property owner. But whether or
not that was ever done, I don't know.
It's a sad situation but, I mean, it is what it is. If he wants to be a
landlord, then he needs to leave an address to where, if we have issues
with the property, he can be contacted.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I wonder how he gets his tax bill.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yeah, that's what I'm --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. As you said, it is what it is.
MR. KINCAID: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any comments or motion from the
Board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Motion to impose.
MS. BUSHNELL: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
impose.
All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
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MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thank you, sir.
MS. ADAMS: The next case is No. 9, Tab 16, Case
CESD20140009331, South Naples Center, LLC.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. BOSA: Good morning, again. For the record, Ralph Bosa,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to violations of the county Land Development
Code 04-41, as amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), location of 13255
Tamiami Trail East, Naples, Florida, with a folio number of
7266440009.
Description of violation is making improvements without first
obtaining all required Collier County -- without required (sic) Collier
County to include unit changes.
Past orders: On April 23, 2015, the Code Enforcement Board
granted a continuance. See the attached order of the Board, OR5147,
Page 3685, for more information.
On June 30, 2015, the Code Enforcement Board issued a findings
of fact, conclusion of law and order. The respondent was found in
violation of the referenced ordinances and ordered to correct the
violation. See the attached order of the Board, OR5179, Page 224, for
more information.
The violation has not been abated as of October 22, 2015.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at the
rate of$200 per day for the period between September 29, 2015, to
October 22, 2015, total of 24 days, for a total fine amount of$4,800.
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Fines continue to accrue.
Previously assessed operational costs of$67.11 have not been
paid, and the operational costs for today's hearing, $63.75, for the total
amount of 4,930.86.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I look back. This is a
stipulation back a while ago for six months.
MR. BOSA: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And still nothing done. Have you
been in contact -- I saw an email here or a copy of an email stating
they'd like to handle this case on an email basis, which we're not
equipped to do.
MR. BOSA: I've been in contact with a rep from South Naples
Center, which is probably the email that you received, and also the
building's being -- it's a renter that's in there renting the facility.
From what I last understood is that the renter blames the owner
for not fixing the problem and the owner blames the renter for not
fixing the problem, so they're at kind of a stalemate right now. That's
where we stand.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Except the owner is responsible and
is the one who gets cited, so...
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to impose.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
impose. All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thanks, Ralph.
MR. BOSA: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Which brings us -- the next hearing
date we have scheduled for -- as we've learned full well today. One of
the things we have in front of us is the Code Enforcement Board
hearing schedule. Everybody have it?
You'll notice that there are -- or you will notice that there are
several days -- one, two, three, four, five -- that have been moved to
Friday from Thursday because this facility is not available.
I understand, if somebody has a problem, they have a problem
with that date, but it would be the wishes of the Board if-- I personally
do not like to meet at Horseshoe because that room is extremely hot,
and it's extremely cramped. And just based on some of the stuff that
we moved to January, we'd have an overflowing crowd.
So if anybody would like to voice an opinion on this.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I agree with Mr. Kaufman regarding the room
at the --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Horseshoe.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- Horseshoe Drive, thank you. I know what I
want to say, but when I went to say it, I didn't know what I wanted to
say.
So I think it would be best to be here, because I know we've been
having a full board, and we literally wrap around a table, and it's just
better to have it here. I'm not opposed to changing it to Friday.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Anybody else want to comment on
it?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: So, again, we are starting with a Friday
schedule partially next month?
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MS. BUSHNELL: January.
MR. DOINO: January.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: January.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Next year.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Here's the list right here.
MS. NICOLA: Next month is a Friday, though, too.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: November 20th is Friday.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Oh, okay.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: So next month is Friday.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes, it is, but that was established a
year ago.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I just want to say it out loud so I
remember.
MS. BUSHNELL: Thank you, actually.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Because that's a little bit unusual.
Normally we're Thursday.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. We were going to have it on
Thanksgiving Day, but --
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Decided not to.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, if they're are no outstanding
objections, why doesn't someone make a motion to accept the hearing
schedule as written for 2016.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I don't think we ever made a motion to change
any dates before.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We'll the Chairman accepts
these dates.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Yeah, that's all that matters, right?
MR. DOINO: Exactly. Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, actually, I did get a call
from Kerry asking me if it was okay. I said it's okay with me, but I was
going to ask the Board, so I asked the Board.
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Oaky. Was there anything else that we have on the Board -- on
board for discussion today?
MS. ADAMS: The consent agenda. I don't know if you -- did
you -- I don't know if there was one this month. Did you get a request
to forward cases to the County Attorney's Office in front of you?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Did not see it.
MS. ADAMS: Okay. There wasn't one this month, I'm being
told. So there's nothing to vote on there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good hand signal. Okay.
Well, if we have nothing else, we'll see --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to adjourn.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Motion to adjourn. We are --
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. BUSHNELL: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We are adjourned.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 11:05 a.m.
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