BCC Minutes 01/16/2002 W (Public Relations and Marketing & Information Technology)January 16, 2002
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
IT WORKSHOP OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
NAPLES, FLORIDA, JANUARY 16, 2002
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9 a.m. in WORKSHOP
SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
JIM COLETTA
VICE CHAIRMAN:
TOM HENNING
JAMES D. CARTER, PH.D
DONNA FIALA
FRED COYLE
ALSO PRESENT:
TOM OLLIFF, County Manager
LEO OCHS, Assistant County Manager
JO-ANN VARCOE-LEAMER, Administrator of the
Administrative Services Division
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NOTICE OF BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
WORKSHOP
Wednesday, January 16, 2002
9:00 A.M.
Notice is hereby given that the Collier County Board of County
Commissioners will hold Workshop on WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 16, 2002 at
9:00 A.M., in the Board of County Commissioners Boardroom, Third Floor, W.
Harmon Turner Building (Administration), at the Collier County Government
Complex, 3301 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, Florida. The Workshop will include,
but may not be limited to, the following:
Department of Public Information: Presentation on
Public Relations and Marketing in Collier County
Information Technology: Presentation on
Technology in Collier County
The meeting is open to the public.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a
record of the proceedings pertaining thereto, and therefore may need to ensure
that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the
testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
James D. Carter, Ph.D., Chairman
DWIGHT E. BROCK, CLERK
By: Is/Maureen Kenyon Deputy Clerk
January 16, 2002
(Proceedings commenced, Commissioners Coletta and Carter
not present.)
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Morning, folks. Welcome
to the workshop for information technology. If you-all rise for the
Pledge of Allegiance.
(The Pledge of Allegiance as recited in unison.)
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Mr. Olliff, you go ahead
and start us off, please.
MS. LEAMER: Good morning, and welcome to the information
technology and public information workshop. We're going to be
spending the next three hours together discussing the history of these
two departments, their current roles and responsibilities in this
organization, their major inich -- initiatives and projects and, finally,
the strategic priorities for the furore. We will be leading the
discussions but encourage you to participate and ask questions. We
want to hear from you. Your input is important in developing the
furore division for these departments.
The first two hours of the workshop will be on information
technology, and our latest or newest director, Barry Axelrod, will be
leading that discussion. Barry joined us in the middle of December.
We'll take about a five-minute break around eleven o'clock, let the
court reporter have a break and allow public information to get set
up, and then the last hour of the workshop we will be led in
discussion by -- by Jean Merritt on public information. And with that
I'm going to mm it over to Barry so we can get started right away,
and thank you.
MR. AXELROD: Good morning. I'm really happy to have this
opportunity to talk to you about the IT department, our work, and our
furore. And I know it's something that you're interested in. I want to
just take this opportunity to say that the technology that we'll be
talking about is complicated in some respects, and it -- as things
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evolve, it gets more complicated, and I'm encouraging you to stop me
if-- if my explanations are not sufficient.
We have a number of experts in the room who can address these
issues in any -- in any depth that you like, and it is our intent today to
demystify some of these things, so we're trying our best to -- to give
you a clear view of what we do.
Starting with a little bit of history, we'll try to reorient you with
what's been going on in the IT department, with the departments that
we serve, the issues that we have adapted to, and the direction we're
taking to the future. The -- the presentation is really put into two
halves. One is an operational half from what we currently do, and the
second half is really a -- a strategic view of the things coming down
the pike in the directions that we feel are important to the future.
Those things involve agency-wide technology initiatives like the
GIS project, which is the geographic information system, which we're
already embarked on; the new financial management system which is
agency-wide; and some things that we really haven't formally started
like an E-government initiative, and-- which we're employed and
ready to do. And, of course, this provides you with an opportunity to
apply policy direction to the --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: May I -- may I ask one question
right off the bat? Does that mean now that all of our computers will
talk to each other within the county system?
MR. AXELROD: That -- that's the ultimate goal, and we're
achieving that in larger and larger degrees. We have some hurdles to
overcome. We have a broad geographic reach that isn't served very
well by commercial infrastructure, so some of those problems are
expensive to solve. We'll talk about those.
We have decentralized some of our offices to move out into
those geographic areas which provides us both a problem, sometimes
in connectivity and sometimes in extending our personnel for
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services out there. We'll talk about that too.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Then one more question. Do at
least each department -- or does each department talk to one another?
MR. AXELROD: Very much so.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay.
MR. AXELROD: Very much so. And we will explain that in
depth. And if you have further questions after you see how
connected they are, we'll for sure answer those.
All right. So this is basically our agenda half and half, and we'll
get right into it right now.
This is a bit of a picture to give you an idea of how our services
have been built over time. In the beginning, before there were
computers, there was, you know, the -- the effective policies, how are
we going to handle these things, how were we going to give them
out. Remember the days when there was only one fax machine in the
building? Well, that happened with PCs as well, and we had to plan
how to proliferate them and to create the policies that would allow us
to use them cost effectively.
We still do that; there's still new technologies coming out.
We're dealing with handheld PCs as a new thing right now, and we
have to develop the policies for that. We're also looking at what we
call virtual private networking which will allow county employees to
operate securely in the county networks from their homes, and that
requires policy direction as well.
As we deployed computers, we had computer support services
that became necessary. We have a thousand computers out there now
in the organization. And, of course, you know, the departments do
very different things with them, and they have very different
problems. That we are continual solving, and we'll talk about that.
We have now a extremely broad communications infrastructure, data
communications, telecommunications, and radio communications.
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And we'll talk all about that as well.
On top of that, those bottom three layers we kind of consider a
platform. Those are the things that you've invested in over the past
five, six years, and that has formed a platform that is now robust
enough where we can put departmental and agency-wide applications
on these things. So it's becoming more and more like the phone
system where, you know, you take it for granted. The phone just is
there, and it works, and it's part of your productivity tools. And in
more and more departments things that they did manually are
converting over to automatic processes, and these platforms are rock
solid, by and large, and provide them to do their business on in a very
cost-effective manner.
On top of that we are also engaged in an ongoing expensive
process of obtaining software for the county, replacing software,
replacing hardware. And for that a department may engage in that
activity once every five years. We do it two or three or four times a
year. So our staff has become the county's experts in guiding
departments down those -- down those RFP cycles, those acquisition
cycles, those long-term financial plans. So we provide those services
out to the departments for obtaining services for contractors,
outsourcing, that kind of thing. So this is a basic view of what we do.
And you'll be hearing today from the managers of each one of these
functions in -- in the departments as far as the status of affairs in
those groups.
This is -- this is the art chart for the group, current art chart. It's
34 people. 34 full-time equivalents to budget for FY '02 was 3.16;
rounded up, 3.2 million.
Functionally organized in the -- in the lines you'll see computer
support line, a telecommunications line, a network operations line, an
application services line, and that's the way we're -- we're going to
talk about it today.
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Barry, can I ask you a question?
We have a couple of managers who are managing one or two people.
Do you plan expansions in those departments, or are you going to
keep it that way?
MR. AXELROD: There is only one manager here with a short
line. That's telecommunications manager, and his functions are
largely outsource services, and it's -- it's a very broad service area,
and we'll talk more about that.
The rest of the lines are --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: How about web manager? Do you
have two people?
MR. AXELROD: That -- that position right now is not staffed,
and it's not -- we're not certain that we're going to proceed with it as a
management position at this time.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay.
MR. AXELROD: And I could tell you that as we get into the E-
government discussion, it will require organizational changes. And if
we proceed to get into E-government, it will become a larger function
as time goes on. So it depends on our strategic direction.
All right. The next chart is a -- a pie chart basically that shows
the breakout of the 3.2 million in the various functions. It's pretty
straightforward. It's basically our -- our -- our budget is basically
salaries. It's where the people live and the salaries. The discretionary
budgets in our group are operational, very small compared to the
personal services, so it goes by person.
The only exception to this is in the business applications area,
which we provide applicate -- departmental application services back
to the departments which we are reimbursed for, so there's a -- a line
in our budget that gets -- that gets transfers from various departments
in order to offset that, so that's the difference between the top line and
the net.
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Just to give you a -- a view of the status and the -- the -- the
depth of coverage right now, the organization is using about 2400
800-megahertz radios. That's our responsibility for that
infrastructure. We're up in the 1600 telephones -- excuse me, that --
that covers all the constitutional officers as well. The sheriff's
department is the -- one of the biggest users of 800-megahertz radios,
but it's our responsibility to maintain that infrastructure.
Phones, the middle line there is flattening out. That's a mature
technology, and it basically runs with head count in the organization.
That line just shows the BCC organization. And computers you can
see at the bottom line is still increasing its penetration into the BCC
organization. We're at about a thousand computers right now. So
that's the scope of the customer base that we serve.
All right. At this point I'd like to ask Sue Buck, who is the
manager of computer support, to give you a brief overview of her
function.
MS. BUCK: Computer support is made up of ten employees.
We support the hardware and the software for those thousand
computers that Barry mentioned. Also we handle on the hardware
side anything related to those computers: Scanners, digital cameras,
PDAs. As you're probably very familiar with, there's a lot of things
that can connect to a computer these days, and we handle all of those.
We also support the software, the standard core software
package that is associated with those computers. That's the software
that all county employees, all BCC county employees use every day.
We troubleshoot that, repair it, install -- install it, and we also train all
the county employees on those standard software applications. We
have training available through cust -- through computer support at
no charge to county employees.
What we're working on right now is firming up our
measurements and analyzing all our numbers so we can provide
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better support in all the various areas, for example, how many service
calls we get from a particular department or a particular division, how
many computers we have at different locations, and how we can
better serve those customers.
We also recently created a team of employees for each division.
Each team would have what we're calling an account manager who
would act as a liaison, if you will, between the IT department and
those divisions so we can better serve their needs; their concerns, if
they have any; their plans for future projects; and so on and so forth.
We're also updating our policies. We've had policies in place,
but as time goes by, they need to be updated and firmed up. We're
also very busy creating standards so the customer will know just what
we can do for them, and it's very clear what our services are. So
we're updating standards and policies.
(Commissioner Coletta entered the room.)
MS. BUCK: Does anybody have any questions?
MS. LEAMER: I just wanted to note that in this group, if you
look at the industry standard, it's 1 FTE or one support person to 75
computers. In Collier County we're at a ratio of 1 to 100, so we're --
we're above the industry standard and still providing service.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Tell me what those figures are one
more time.
MS. LEAMER: The industry standard is 1 support person per
75 computers. We're at 1 to 100.
MS. BUCK: Any other questions?
(No response.)
MR. AXELROD: We'll move on. I'll introduce John Daly who
is the telecommunications manager.
MR. DALY: Good morning. The first slide here is more of a
technical schematic. But we use this in management of the phone
system, and it gives you a sense of-- of where our telephone switches
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are located and also includes the voice mail system at the bottom
there. And, like I said, we primarily use this as kind of a
management tool as we get requests for phone service to make sure
we have capacity and connectivity, you know, to these switches.
Some of the issues on the telephone side, we're -- we're using a
world-class phone system provided by Avaya, which -- which has
thousands of installations throughout the world. It's highly scalable.
There's a lot of features and options in that phone system which we
have not purchased or activated yet. And looking at what we do with
the phone system, compared with the variety of features it has, it's
underutilized at this point. The system -- the phone system has
primarily been managed operationally meaning when it's -- when it's
broke, we fix it. And -- and our investment has primarily been to
maintain service levels, mainly switch capacity that needs additional,
you know, FTEs that are added or expanding the number of switches
to -- to accommodate, you know, leased space, such as up at South
Horseshoe.
We're looking at the telephone system as being able to be more
of a strategic ass -- asset. And the long-term vision for some of what
the phone system can provide will be covered later in the E-
government plan. But we've got a significant investment in the
phone system, and it -- and it has a lot of capabilities to support what
our customers are telling us what they want, the public to be able to
access without, you know, necessarily a-- an employee intervention,
you know, being able to get information from county computer
systems after hours.
And we're also looking at some of the technology which may
allow us to provide better telecommunications services to some of the
remote locations that currently just, you know, get services from the
local phone companies, such as some of the parks and those types of
things.
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We are -- we do see that a lot of the -- the data that we want
people to be able to get, universal access to county records and that
type of stuff, can be done through the phone system, through
advanced call routing and from after-hour call attendant-type
features. Customer would be able to access, really, county
information 24 -7. Anything that can be accessed via a web page can
actually be accessed via telephone. And we realize that a lot of--
there may be a lot of people out there that don't necessarily have
computer access but have telephone access to retrieve information.
And the first part of this that we will be looking at, the bottom
bullet there, the call statistics is, we need information. We need some
measurements to be able to decide, you know, what's the best way to
go. And one of the first things that we'll be bringing back to you will
be some type of measurement system so we can see what our call
activity is, times a day, you know, what switches are getting the most
use. We can run some of that now, but it's not as detailed as we need
to make some of the assessments that need to be made for this.
MR. AXELROD: Right. The key -- the key behind the
measurement system statistics is that we will then be able to
substantiate future investments and also be able to measurement --
measure the effectiveness of those investments so we'll know which
departments are getting calls, what -- what peak times, how much
after-hours,calling is happening. If we initiate a program for shifting
business to after hours, and even do advertising behind it, we'll be
able to measure the effectiveness, so we'll get a cause and effect that
will be advantageous going forward for future investments.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Will this also work as a tool to be
able to track customers' concerns, complaints, or suggestions? MR. AXELROD: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: And when do we think we'll be able
to implement this?
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MR. AXELROD: If I could ask you to wait until the second
half of the presentation --
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I will.
MR. AXELROD: -- I have more -- much more to say about
that.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: This is something that I'm very
interested in and asking for its arrival.
MR. AXELROD: Yes, sir. All right.
The other -- the other portion of the telecommunications section
is the 800-megahertz radio network. This slide indicates where our
current sites are. The TL dots indicates some closed expansion to
meet some of the growth that we are seeing out there, both in call
volume and in population.
The radio system, as -- as Barry said earlier, has about 2400
mobile, portable, and base-station radios. The system is being used
by 37 departments or agencies, including the two municipalities in
the county. The system processes approximately 2 million radio
transmissions, and at this point we are finalizing a lease agreement
with our vender who is developing a state-wide radio system for the
State of Florida.
(Commissioner Carter entered the room.)
MR. AXELROD: They're going to use some of our -- our sites
and some of our space and, you know, generators and those types of
things to facilitate their limitation in the state-wide project. And in
exchange for that, we would develop a lease agreement. We're
estimating the revenue would be approximately 60,000 a year. They
would not be using any of our actual communication assets like, you
know, the radio frequencies. They would be installing their own for
the state, but they would be using our microwave network and some
of our space and shelters where we have space available. We should
have that agreement finalized fairly soon to bring back, you know,
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for your approval.
MR. OCHS: John, when you say State of Florida, which agency
are you talking about primarily?
MR. DALY: The state-wide radio system is going to serve all
state law enforcement, FDLE, highway patrol, game and fish. And
it's going to include six consolidated dispatch centers state-wide. The
one for this region would be in Fort Myers. MR. OCHS: Okay.
MR. OLLIFF: This is important for you to know that -- that one
of the functions of this department is maintaining this system. The
reason this system is so important, it is the backbone of pretty much
county-wide public safety agency work. I mean from fire
departments to sheriffs' departments to EMS. Communication is
vitally important out in the field, and reliability is extremely
important when you've got deputies out in the field. They need to
know when they hit that radio that they're going to be able to back up
when they need it and they're going to be able to get to -- to the
central dispatch when they need to.
So there's a tremendous amount of responsibility being borne by
your IT department to make sure that system is functional. And if the
board will recall, you recently made a fairly significant investment in
the switchover of the 800 megahertz going from an analog to a
digital-type system. And we had our bumpy roads. And you may
have heard a little bit about that early on. But, John, I believe today I
believe we can fairly safely say that the system is in pretty good
shape. I believe we've got pretty good buy-in from most of the public
services.
MR. DALY: We -- we have -- we have a few issues there that
we're getting through, but yeah.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Tom, I seem to recall that we had
some difficulty with respect to the vender changing the specifications
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of their equipment and -- and the equipment we had procured was no
longer capable of being commanded. Am I understanding that
correctly or not?
MR. DALY: The digital upgrade did require replacement of
some of the portable radios or a large percentage of them due to the
fact that -- I mean, it was a significant change in operation. It
actually was a board change-out in the radio; that would have not
been easy to facilitate in the field. So it did require a change-out of
the portable radios, but that was negotiated at a significant discount to
the county. We negotiated a fairly attractive --
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay.
MR. DALY: -- migration plan.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: So there's no -- no real problem
supporting or expanding 800 megahertz?
MR. DALY: No. The system has a lot of expansion capability.
MR. OCHS: I might just expand on that for just a minute
without belaboring it. I think the big issue that we're facing right
now -- and John touched on it -- is the application of the digital
portion of the radio system, vis-a-vis the analog system. And the
digital was primarily requested by public safety agencies because it's
more secure, and there's some encryption capabilities. But that is a
relatively young technology, and there's still some -- some
differences in it when it comes through the handheld radio that are
causing some concerns from the -- from the public safety community
and the sheriff and the sheriffs agency specifically. So we continue
to try to work those out. They're not stopping the day-to-day
business in anyway, and -- but those are some of the issues that -- that
John alluded to that -- that we're still trying to work through with --
with the sheriff.
The other issue -- and he'll touch on it -- is continuing to
maintain adequate coverage as the county grows and expands in new
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areas that used to be fairly uninhabited that are now becoming more
and more urbanized.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, are we converting
everything to digital, or is there going to be a period of time when we
have to have dual digital, analog?
MR. DALY: The system will continue to support analog,
especially for general government, you know, our-- our county
government agencies, road and bridge, building inspectors, code
enforcement. Those people would remain analog. The digital is a
more expensive technology, and they will probably not see the
benefit of digital in those agencies.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: But the digital radios that we are
acquiring or converting or upgrading, will they have both digital and
analog capabilities?
MR. DALY: Yes.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: So they can interface with the --
MR. DALY: Yes, yes. And the system carries analog and
digital the same. The system doesn't really care how the radio wants
to transmit.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay.
MR. DALY: The system has that capability.
The basic issues we have -- the first I've got there is channel
expansion. Probably in FY '04 we would need to at some sites add
channels. The more radios you put out on the streets, the busier those
channels get, and you need the additional capacity just so that the
users don't get cued or, you know, get busies at the site. That's not a
significant expense. And -- basically, you know, we can monitor
system reports and see where we have busies. And that can actually
be done incrementally as -- you know, as we determine the need.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: One question, other than possibly the
sheriffs department or EMS. The inspectors that are out in the field,
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why couldn't they just use cell phones? Wouldn't that be a lot less
expensive than handheld radios?
MR. DALY: It -- that would be a possibility. However, it
wouldn't give them dedicated communication. We also have the
issue that in the event of some type of disaster the cell networks tend
to get busy. And I think if we have a vital communication need that
we have -- road and bridge is an excellent example. They need
continual communication with their people, and cell phones really
wouldn't be practical in that application.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: The intent is that we have -- be able
to send these signals out, they're secure and they'll be able to
withstand the force of a tropical storm or hurricane.
MR. DALY: Yeah. We've been-- I mean, you know, we've
been through it. We've -- we've had some minor antenna damage.
But the storms we've had since the systems been -- in '96, we've
never actually lost an antenna off the site.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Has there been an actual study done
to see the cost benefit against the occasional difficulty of
communications?
MR. OCHS: With cell phones you mean?
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: That's correct.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, you-- you definitely
can't use it in the cell blocks. You remember during fire -- fire
season. You know, there's some difficulty with rave -- wave radio
and the communication in that. And that might go away once the --
well, I shouldn't say that. The fish and wildlife will be controlling
that area, but it's still going to need a lot of support from the fire
districts.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I agree. And that's an isolated
example. Somebody like an inspector that may occasionally like a
couple of times a year be unable to reach you from the south block
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where there's no building going on as opposed to when he gets to the
next stop might be a little closer to the tenant -- I'm wondering what
the cost -- the dollar and cents value is from one to the other.
Cell phones are something that I believe just about every county
employee has. Is there a neces -- is there a necessity to be able to
follow -- do we have to follow two lines of communications, both
cell phones and radios, for someone that might be a low user on the
system or they might not have to operate in an emergency capacity?
Just -- that's a question that I really think is a fair -- a fair question.
MR. DALY: I think in those situations like the building
inspectors, code enforcement you really have a dispatch-type
environment. I think the amount of traffic that the building
inspectors put on the radio system would be difficult for them to do
on cell phones. I mean, they are calling and continually looking for
information on building permits, checking status of inspections, that
type of stuff. If you ever get a chance to listen -- you know, we can
provide a radio for you if you want to listen. I mean, there's a lot of
building inspector activity. Code enforcement and road and bridge
are fairly high end.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I would like to have a radio at some
off time maybe when somebody is on vacation for about a week.
MR. DALY: We have some spares; we could turn them up, take
a look.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: And this is supported by
permit fees?
MR. DALY: We -- well, we maintain the infrastructure with the
traffic ticket money, the $12.50 surcharge, traffic tickets. VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
MR. DALY: The individual departments maintain their mobile
and portable radio inventory. They pay a monthly fee for those
radios to be on maintenance --
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MR. OLLIFF: John, there's actually a -- a cost that the
community development fund pays to the general fund that we do
an-- an update on that formula. In fact, we're in the process of doing
it right now, an update. And it covers the cost of maintenance on
their centralized phone system. It covers the cost of even the attomey
services that they receive, and everything that they would generally
get from a general fund and department is offset by building permit
fees.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Tom, I'd just like to bring up an
issue here. I'm not sure it's relevant. But Mr. Coletta hit on
something that I think at least someone should take a look at. We
have a lot of cell phones, and I imagine the cell phone bills are rather
expensive based upon the number of calls we get. There are calling
plans that permit calls between one cell phone and another cell phone
in the same -- enrolled in the same program to be doing free of
charge, unlimited number of minutes. Are we doing that?
MS. LEAMER: That's correct. With the Nextel phones that is
in place. So if it's Nextel to Nextel, there is no charge. And the
representative from Nextel is actually working with our county
departments to review their bills and make sure they're on the
appropriate plans.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. Good.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: If I may expound upon that, but that
was number one on the hit parade and I had down there too and was
waiting for an opportunity. Wouldn't there -- wouldn't there be a
savings, though, if all the departments within the county had the same
provider? Have we ever done research? I asked the question before
and never got an answer.
MS. LEAMER: For cell service?
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Cell phones. In other words, all
departments using the same provider.
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MS. LEAMER: That has been out for purchasing on a cyclical
basis. I believe it's a two-year contract, and right now we're with
Nextel and All-Tel (sic), so purchasing is trying to bid that out as one
county service so we can leverage our -- our dollars and that we don't
have people signing up for service with Cellular One or -- or Nextel
individually.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: If you would be so kind as to supply
me with a copy of the last bid and the results of it. MS. LEAMER: Sure.
MR. OLLIFF: Commissioner Coletta, I need you to talk into a
microphone when you talk just so we can get it on the system.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I'd be more than happy to. I'll share
this with them.
MS. LEAMER: I'd be happy to provide that with you. The last
time we bid, we did move from Cellular One to Nextel, and I'll get
that information for you.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Thank you.
MR. OLLIFF: John ...
MR. DALY: The -- the other bullet we have there is probably
the need to add additional sites to maintain and improve the level of
service, particularly in those rural areas where we never had
population, and based upon the population at the time the RFP was
written, you know, the coverage specifications, you know, kind of
varied from one area of the county to the another based upon the
density of the population.
We estimate that to be about 4 million, and we put up it there in
FY '03. We do have some opportunity to save some money on that
expansion if we do that fairly quickly, but we're still looking at some
of those issues.
And then the bottom bullet there is we continue hardware and
software maintenance services which keep us fairly current with
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technology and allows the system to carry, you know, some of the
features that the users may decide. We have software support on our
radio system so that as the vender comes out with -- with changes to
their technology, we get those software upgrades, and then the users
can simply, you know, enable their radios to access some of those
things that they so determine. It's trying to keep the infrastructure
current.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: With respect to the additional
sites --
MR. DALY: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: -- what constitutes that cost?
Are -- are we talking about additional hardware, or are we talking
about antennas or a combination of the two?
MR. DALY: It's hardware and the antennas installed on the
existing towers.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: So -- so current capacity is not
sufficient to deal with forecast growth? MR. DALY: That's correct.
MR. AXELROD: All right. At this point we'll move on to the
-- to the data communications infrastructure. Mike Berrios will
present that.
MR. BERRIOS: Good morning. Network operations is
responsible for maintaining all of the servers and equipment that are
used to interconnect all the key -- computers on a countywide basis.
This diagram represents the reach of the county's network, and the
county's network was built over the course of the last five or six
years. We have -- most of the county locations are permanently
networked.
The areas where we are continuing to expand our network are
primarily those areas where there are a very small number of county
employees, one or two employees. And because of the geographic
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disbursing of the county and the lack of competition for commercial
infrastructure, the cost of networking those sites is very expensive on
a per-user basis. So the departments involved to fund many of those
expansions have decided that the cost versus the benefit isn't -- isn't
there.
We do network most of those facilities using dialup networking.
I'm sure you guys have all worked with that. We're doing -- we have
some initiatives to upgrade that service and make it perform better.
If-- if you look over at the very large map that's sitting on the
floor over here, you can get an idea of how spread out the county
facilities are. The orange blocks -- and there's some light gray
blocks -- represent all of the Board of County Commissioners'
facilities. The other -- the other blocks in different colors represent
school board facilities, sheriff, the clerk of the circuit court. And we
are working with those agencies looking for opportunities to kind of
share the cost of infrastructure where we're co-located and it makes
good business sense.
So this kind of give you an idea of how spread out the county is
from a facilities perspective. The box on the top and the box on the
bottom represent Everglades City and Immokalee which wouldn't fit
on that map.
Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Question: Is it your department that
is working on the fiberoptic line to be able to connect us with
Immokalee?
MR. BERRIOS: We're involved with the public information
office, the school board, and-- and IT is involved in that, yes.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: How is this most important
cooperative arrangement coming together?
MR. BERRIOS: There's a meeting scheduled for --
MR. OCHS: February the 5th, the workshop you're talking
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about?
MS. LEAMER: That will be discussed at the workshop coming
up in February between the school board and the Board of County
Commissioners. There are a number of initiatives going on, staff-
level initiatives, between the school board and the county, as well as
the EDC. Economic Development Council is working with the
private business -- businesses in Collier, as well as the government
entities, to try and find a solution for this.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Anything we can do to expediate that
fiberoptic line would be greatly appreciated.
MS. LEAMER: We're also going to be looking for grant
opportunities. There may be some opportunities to get money from
USDA to build a fiberoptic line. So we're going to look for any
opportunity for cost sharing, collaborative efforts, because it is an
expensive problem to solve.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Commissioner Coletta, maybe it
would be helpful. Leo Ochs and I met with a representative from the
school system, and that's what's triggering into our workshop on the
5th. And that came out of the meeting that we all participated in with
the EDC, which was in -- in January. So there's been some step
process to bring it to this board where we've laid the groundwork for
what can we do on an interim basis and finally get to the cable,
fiberoptic cable basis. It will be a two-step process, Leo, if I
remember our conversation correctly, in order to get us to that point,
not only to benefit government but the business communities in
Immokalee.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Thank you, Commissioner Carter. I
appreciate the work you did on that when you were the chair.
MR. BERRIOS: I think it's also important to note that we work
very closely with the other government agencies, as well as the EDC.
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We're participating in several committees, as it relates to technology,
always looking for opportunities to solve the -- the communication
bottlenecks that we have for the small locations or the very far away
locations.
Any questions about -- at this point? No?
Network operations: We continue, again, to have initiatives to
expand and complete our connectivity.
We're also looking at increasing the level of fault tolerance for
mission-critical applications and for some of our key infrastructure
components. The network is very reliable but has a number of single
points of failure. And we're looking at -- the cost of eliminating the
single points of failure is very high, and so we're looking for good
business reasons for doing that.
We're also looking at business continuity. A lot of our planning
has changed in light of recent events. Our planning was related
mostly to storms and natural disasters and didn't really take into
consideration that we may lose a number of facilities through other
means or be denied access to those facilities. Our security section
within the department is working to create some business continuity
planning and do some business needs analysis on that so that we can
come up with a prudent plan to address those concerns.
We're also trying to respond to changing -- changes in our
customers' demand. New applications that the county is bringing on
on an agency-wide basis, particularly the geographic infra -- excuse
me, information systems, and some of our E-government initiatives
will require us to change the way that we do business and also to
increase the capacity of our network to be able to carry the large
amounts of data that are associated with those initiatives.
We're also working on how we are going to accommodate 24-
hour-a-day, 7-day-a-week support as we move into -- into the world
where the public will be doing business with the county at all hours,
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how do we maintain that infrastructure, know that it's working
properly outside of normal business hours. We're looking at a
number of options, including outsourcing some of that after-hour
support to be able to accommodate that demand.
We're also struggling with the impact of decentralization and
how it relates to the costs and challenges associated with maintaining
a network infrastructure. Whenever you are so geographically
disbursed, the cost of maintaining that network goes up, and we are
actually working to relocate some of our network operation staff to
the areas where we have a lot of county employees, such as North
and South Horseshoe Drive to provide a higher level of service for
those operating departments.
Some of the highlights that we're looking at for this fiscal year
are the extension of Sprint SONET network. That will increase the
level of fault tolerance for the county. Increasing our network
coverage, we're going to be networking for the parks locations.
We're going to be upgrading our dialup services to increase the level
of performance, decrease the number of busy signals, and to make it a
more seamless sign-on.
We're also working on introducing VPN or virtual private
networking services, and that is something that would have a direct
impact on you if you have a DSL or a cable modem at your home. It
will allow you to access safely and securely the county's network
through those connections.
That will also provide a number of opportunities to reduce the
cost of networking those smaller locations by taking advantage of the
lower costs of cable modems and DSL service.
We will be increasing the performance of our network
infrastructure where required to accommodate new business
applications. Mapping is one of them. And we're also positioning
ourselves so that as the business demand requires, we'll be able to
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support some of the voice and video communications over the data
network in the future.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Excuse me. Who's requiring
you to make these improvements? MR. BERRIOS: For ...
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: You said we're required to
make these improvements. You're just -- your last statement.
MR. BERRIOS: Well, required probably was a poor choices of
words. The -- the -- the improvements are being made to handle the
additional capacity requirements that the geographic information
system will need to be able to function as well as it should.
MS. LEAMER: They're being driven by our business needs in
the various areas, whether it's parks or the people who are going to
use maps.
MR. AXELROD: I'll address that. I've done some surveying
with the customer departments. And, for example, I could give you
one thing that the dialup service has always been at the top of the list
of complaints of almost everybody I talked to. We took that as a
requirement to upgrade that. And I'll -- I'll address more of that.
MR. BERRIOS: We're also working on improving our level of
connectivity to the various constitutional officers. We are currently
working on connecting the sheriffs department to the Board of
County Commission network to allow interchange of data and e-mail.
That process is -- is in the last technical stages, and we're hoping to
bring that connection on line in the very near future.
We're also working on replacing and improving the performance
of our connection to the property appraiser, clerk of the circuit court,
public defender, state's attorney, and court administration. All of
those connections will provide us with opportunities in the future to
leverage communications where we have co-located facilities.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Can you tell me what SONET
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means?
MR. BERRIOS: SONET basically is a infrastructure that Sprint
has in place throughout the county that uses fiberoptics to provide
voice communications. So when you pick up your telephone,
ultimate your -- ultimately your call ends up on their fiberoptic
infrastructure. And SONET is a -- a physical ring of fiber that runs
around the county, and the intent is is that if you cut it with a backhoe
the data goes the other way around the ring so it doesn't isolate
facilities in the event of a cable cut or an equipment failure, things of
that nature. So they're going to expand that around the perimeter of
our campus so that 911 and all of our voice communications and all
of our data communications are then directly on their SONET
infrastructure. So if we have a cable cut on the campus, unless they
run a trench all the way across the campus and cut it in two places,
we won't be put out of service.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Hmm. Okay.
MS. LEAMER: The SONET ring will improve our reliability of
service. There have been some issues with Sprint's reliability in the
past, and -- and this will help.
MR. BERRIOS: Any other questions I can answer?
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I -- I -- you may have covered it
either in the book. I'm not too sure. But what about data protection?
What about a catastrophe, something like a heavy magnetic field due
to terrorist acts? How is our data protected?
MR. BERRIOS: We are currently revising our business
continuity plans and disaster recovery plans to incorporate those
types of challenges. It's not something that our initial planning ever
contemplated that we would become a target for terrorists for some of
the things that we do. We have an initiative right now where we're
working with each of the operating departments within the Board of
County Commissioners to determine what the cost of loss of systems
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are going to be, what the loss of productivity is going to be so that we
can prioritize and address those issues.
Some of the things that we are looking at are -- are potentially
creating data centers at remote locations. We looked at the
emergency services facility that's being contemplated and -- and the
possibility of putting a data center there and then setting up our
computer systems so all the data lives there as well, and if in the
event of a problem at this facility, we can simply switch to that data
center.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Isn't there a provider already
someplace in Iron Mountain that stores data retrieved later.9
MR. BERRIOS: Those are for off-site data tape storage. We're
working right now with the county attorney's office negotiating a
contract with actually AT&T. We looked at Iron Mountain, but
they're not really geared to deliver the tapes on the basis that we do,
as well as to cut out -- accommodate the need to move the data tapes
off site in the event of a storm. So when we have a hurricane, we
want to get the data out of the county --
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I really wasn't too concerned about a
hurricane --
MR. BERRIOS: Uh-huh.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: That's -- that we can recover from.
We're ready to -- I'm concerned about electromagnetic waves --
MR. BERRIOS: Uh-huh.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: -- anything from an atomic weapon
to a device that could destruct all computer chips and all data and
completely wipe it off and -- I know it's a little far-fetched at this
point in time, but so was 9/11 back prior to that date. As you move
into this, I'd like to see the reports that are generated --
MR. BERRIOS: Certainly, certainly.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: -- from the study.
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MR. BERRIOS: Most -- most of-- almost all of our planning
incorporates components that gets the data out of the county on a
regular basis nightly in some cases so that it's -- it's out of the county.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Then where would that be -- those --
I mean, are there -- we probably don't want to let that out. Never
mind. I withdraw the question. I don't want to know.
MR. AXELROD: You know, one other -- one other point here
is that we have a dedicated staff member, Jeff Bolen, who is the
security administrator. And you'll see later in the presentation where
he's got a deliverable that he's working on with a committee right
now for a business continuity plan which updates to all these new
concerns. So that's something that we will be delivering as a matter
of business.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Thank you.
MR. AXELROD: Just -- also, those two senior staff members,
Jeff and Ray Higdon, the database administrator for the county, I just
want to let you know that they're here, and that they're here to support
any requests that come up and, of course, the key members of the IT
staff, as well as the managers. Any other questions about data
communications? We're about ready to move into applications.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You mentioned dialup. What is a
dialup?
MR. AXELROD: Dialup -- dialup is the method of access that
most people used -- used to, for instance, get on AOL, you know,
where you will have a phone line and a modem that will dial the
phone.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay.
MR. AXELROD: As -- as opposed to the connections that are
emerging now that are always on, like, the DSL or the cable modems
where you don't have to physically dial a phone in order to make a
connection with a data network.
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So the dialup infrastructure, of course, was the way to connect
the remote locations and before we -- if we couldn't get the more
robust networking to them, and it still serves as the backup in a lot of
cases to the county's network if-- if something catastrophic were to
happen. But the infrastructure is old. It's obsolete. You know, at
your home now for $49 you can get a modem that will connect at 56
K. Our stuff works at 33 K right now which is slow, half the speed,
just about. And the number of lines we had was insufficient to
handle the - the needs of the people who dialed up.
So we're make -- we're doing two things: both improving the
speed up to 56 K which would make for shorter connections; we're
adding a number of lines; and we're also going to employ this VPN
technology which will take some of the people who had a dialup, get
them off of the dialup and onto the -- onto the -- always on network
connectivity. So overall the situation with dialups will get a lot
better.
As we do this, we're also going to look at the way that the
software works so, for instance, you don't have to log in four times in
order to do something. You know, so we're going to be attacking that
whole thing during this next couple months.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: This is absolutely wonderful. Now
when we can leave at five o'clock, go home, get on our computers
and work right on through the night, 24-7 work. And I have noted
prior during some of my nighttime hours that a number of county
employees are on there continuously. I don't think they ever go to
bed.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: They just mm them on and leave
them.
MR. AXELROD: All right. At this point we're ready to talk
about the application work that we do, and that would be from
Tammy Smith who manages that area.
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MS. SMITH: Good morning. Our area is formally known as
the client system support section. We're comprised of 12 staff
members and 3 separate sections. One is the web technology section.
One is the GIS section, geographical information systems, and the
other is the applications analysts, the core group of application
analysts which is our project management team. We provide
operational and technical support for all applications that meet very
specific business needs throughout the county. And at this point
departments rely highly on the applications that we support to meet
their everyday business needs.
You can see nine of the significant applications that we support
here. There are a list of many, many more, but these are the
significant major applications that support business functions across
the county.
Most of these applications are written by outside venders and
then implemented with technical IT support, and then after the
implementation we stay on to maintain the application and manage
the vender through the -- the full life cycle of the application.
It's our job to form relationships with -- with these departments
to learn their very specific business needs and to -- to meet their
needs as their systems grow in a more efficient manner.
This slide is a list of services that our section provides
throughout the county on an internal basis. Because we are an
internal consulting service, we train our staff in the business areas of
the divisions and the departments that they support. We walk
departments through the process hand in hand of selecting venders
and procuring software and hardware technology to meet their
business needs.
We also provide necessary skills to assist with the purchasing of
new technology and the replacement of existing technology as their
needs -- as their business needs changes.
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Again, we do maintain their systems through -- through their full
life cycle from the inception of the application through the
replacement of another application.
Right now we are currently acquiring up to three business
systems annually. And since the inception of IT in 1995, we
replace -- we have installed and implemented 7 major systems.
This slide is a quick look at our highlights for the second quarter
of this year. In this slide you'll see that there are three agency-wide
applications that we're working on, the geographical information
systems, the financial management system, and the electronic
document management system. These three systems are -- are full
speed ahead, and they're all on the plate to -- to implement as -- as
soon as possible and as diligently as possible.
The FMS system, we're currently working with the clerk of
courts to implement this system agency wide. It's on a very, very
aggressive schedule and a very challenging schedule as October 1st is
our cutover date for the new system. The vender that we've selected
is SAP. And SAP brings a great deal of opportunities to the county
for present and future needs. They've got a lot of exciting modules
that we can implement on a future basis that we won't have to pay for
later.
This system will integrate the human resources department, the
risk management department, the purchasing department, the budget
department, and all aspects of finance into one integrated system.
Electronic document management, we have a main goal with
this system to provide a cost-effective method of converting paper
documents to digital records which provides reduced time for
retrieval of documents and a cost-efficient way of freeing up office
space for county staff. We're gaining momentum on this project as
we're implementing it department by department. Currently we have
several departments that utilize this system starting with the
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community department and environmental services division. The
entire division uses the system: EMS billing, risk management,
purchasing, human resources, and utility billing, customer service,
and the -- and the transportation engineering department.
And coming up, next phase, which will probably be next fiscal
year or at the end of this fiscal year, we have a transportation--
transportation operations, transportation administration, utilities
engineering and transportation storm water that are also trying to
come up on this system.
And GIS, last but not least, is a full-speed-ahead project. You're
about to see a demo after I complete this of the EDMS piece and the
GIS piece. Currently we're implementing all software and hardware
required to kick this project off officially. We'll have three to four
applications live for everybody to see and use by June 1st of this
year. Those applications have yet to be determined exactly what
pieces they're going to be. That will be determined later by the
departments and the -- the GIS committee that we put together. Our
goal with GIS is to make more current data available to more people
electronically utilizing less paper. Anybody have questions?
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Yes, a couple. You're going right in
the direction that I was hoping we would be going.
A little bit of concern, though, with the hardware and the
software that we're going to be contracting for. Is it -- is it a system
that's put into place that only this one vender can ever service, or is it
open-ended that we can switch venders and reach a point? In -- in
other words, would the equipment be dated by the vender you have in
place and you're going to be locked in forever for the life of the
equipment?
MS. SMITH: For which system?
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: For the one there that will do all the
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bills and do all the work, integrate the system.
MS. SMITH: The financial management system?
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Yes.
MS. SMITH: The -- the financial management system, SAP, is
a vender. Most of the hardware should be able to be used, utilized for
other systems. But you have to realize that life cycles of software
and hardware are -- are over in about five years. CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I understand.
MS. SMITH: So by the time the software has reached its life
cycle, more than likely the hardware has also reached its life cycle.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I had a vender myself that was a 15-
year marriage because of the fact there was no way to ever switch
from the use of it. You could discontinue the service, but then there
would be no more support. And it wasn't exactly an unfavorable
arrangement; it worked fine. But I was -- I had no freedom of
movement to another vender unless I wanted to hand enter all my
data back in again. Just a concern, and I'm sure that you people,
being experts in the field, have thought this out.
MR. AXELROD: Yes. But -- but we -- these are excellent
points. The current financial system, I -- again, I'm new here -- but
I'm told is 15 years here. And, you know, changing financial systems
is a hard thing to do, so when we pick venders for these, we're
looking for venders that are world class, well known, well supported.
And SAP is the provider of this. And their business is basic --
basically the Fortune 2000. And they are in doing what they're doing
for us with, you know, most major corporations in -- in the country
worldwide, as a matter of fact. And we look for that commitment
from the vender to make sure that they're going to maintain and
support this for the long run. And for this system, the long run is a
long time. It's not 5 years; it's more like 15 or 20 years. During that
time it's likely that the hardware's going to swap out a couple of times
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because applications get bigger; they get to do more. Computing
power is doubling every year type of thing. So we expect that we'll
be doing hardware migrations. Hopefully you won't notice those
things, but the applications will continue to run, continue to expand
for a long time.
But vender selection for these things is a major point because, as
you know, the switching costs are very high. And we are involved in
some switching right now, and the departments that are, you know,
going through this are -- you know, it's a struggle. So we are really
looking to make sure that the quality of our venders is good. We do a
lot of reference checking. We want to see, you know, good financial
strength and, you know, all those things in order to make sure that
we're not going to be doing a panic migration. We want these things
to go in the long run. We regard these -- these venders as strategic
partners. We can't switch on a whim.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Thank you. That answered my
question.
MR. OCHS: Barry, you may also just want to touch on the
concurrent internal technical and business application support that
goes along with that FMS project. In other words, when the vender
leaves, it's not as if we have no one left here on staff, either in the
clerk's agency or ours, to make minor tweaks and to maintain that
application on a -- on a daily basis and address new needs as they
come along.
MR. AXELROD: That's -- that's a really good point, too, Leo.
These -- when we buy these systems, we are not buying them without
help. They usually come with some required services to either help
in a migration or help with an initial implementation. And all of the
agency-wide systems that we're dealing with right now, that is the
case, and that is probably anticipated to become the -- you know, the
defacto way of doing things.
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While this happens, we are adding positions within our
organization or sometimes out in the departments that are being
trained on the technologies, the specific technologies, because that
department or our support is going to go on for a long time. So we
learn what needs to be learned, and we become competent in the
basics of sustaining these applications. And from time to time we
will require specialized consulting help if-- if a particular situation
pro -- is -- is out of the norm and beyond the expertise of what we
have. But over time you will accumulate these things. It's another
reason why you don't want to be -- you know, you need to make
long-term decisions in this area.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Right. And basically it boils down
to being able to convert the format of what's in there, something that
will be acceptable by standard technology that's out there for another
vender in the future. If you have that covered, you have everything
covered.
MR. AXELROD: Yeah. That's right. All of the systems that
we are procuring are what they call open systems now where, you
know, most of the time we're dictating, you know, what our
environment is. And the successful bidders will be capable of
running on a number of environments, ours being one of them. Our
database standards, we're not about to go changing that. It's too much
of an investment. You know, our -- our hardware platform standards,
you know, requires expertise. We have those expertise, and it's an
industry standard platform. We're not going to go about changing
those things.
So all of the successful bidders are running on a variety of
platforms that the industry considers standard, and we are very much
an industry standard platform as well.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Thank you.
MR. OLLIFF: The other thing I wanted the board to get from
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this particular segment is just an understanding that there is a parallel,
in my mind, between your internal systems and the -- the capital
infrastructure on the outside that we've been supporting and -- and
you seem to understand very well that -- that we have been in a
catchup mode in terms of getting roads built and getting water and
wastewater plants built and doing some of those kinds of things.
Well, I'll tell you that it's not very different when you look
inside. And if you look at the size, the magnitude of the projects that
we have taken ahold of, they are enormous. And -- and we've got a
number of overlapping major projects going on at the same time that,
frankly, in my opinion, we are behind and -- and should have
probably been doing for a number of years.
GIS is a great example. GIS has everyday applications that --
that benefit the public, your operating departments, and save money
on a day-to-day basis, and we should have been doing that for years.
But we are now trying to catch up and get GIS in place.
FMS system is another, which is just an enormous project. And
it is one that it -- it encompasses a number of different agencies, not
only the Board of County Commissioners -- and you're going to have
a tremendous amount of internal staff work acquired to get us --
required to get us to an October 1 cutover date.
And EDMS is another very, very large project when we start
going to electronic data management systems, something we should
have been doing. And we have rooms and rooms and rooms of paper
files that we are required by law to keep, in some cases, HR files.
For example, I know the old role -- it used to be a hundred years we
used to have to keep. And I think that role still stands today.
The volume of paper in an organization like this, trying to mm
that into electronic data is a huge task, but you have to get started
sometime, and so we've decided as an agency, get started, for better
for worse, and start moving ahead on some of these things, but they
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have got a -- a large tiger by the tail here, and we're trying to keep
that whole thing managed.
MR. AXELROD: Every once in a while somebody asks you to
find one of those pieces too.
So, in any case, I'd like to introduce Don Blalock, who is going
to give a short demo of both the EDMS and the GIS capabilities.
MR. BLALOCK: The EDMS project has a nice website, which
is beneficial to everybody because you really don't have to have any
special software installed on your computer. If you have a dialup
from home you can access this system. We had one person who was
pregnant, had her baby, and she was doing work from home editing
some of these EDMS files and could -- could keep working doing
that. So there's a lot of-- the ease of operations thing is very
apparent.
MR. OCHS: Don, again, the EDMS is ...
MR. BLALOCK: -- is electronic document management
system, also known as document imaging, also known as document
scanning.
MR. OCHS: Thank you.
MR. BLALOCK: Okay. About I think it was in 1998 the
community development-- and environmental services staff felt that
they had a -- a records problem. And it was threefold: records
retrieval, records retention, and storage.
The records retrieval was a problem because when somebody
wanted to come in for, let's say, an SDP, a site development plan,
they had to come into community development. They had to request
that particular SPD. And if it wasn't there, they had to get it from the
Iron Mountain. And it took anywhere from ten or -- five to ten
working days. When you're a staff member, it's very frustrating.
But, also, people that were requesting this were land development
attorneys and engineering companies and development companies.
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So everybody was a little bit frustrated with it.
An RFP was put out for document imaging; a company was
selected. They were called Image One. Image One is a vender for
Canon and also for a software program called OTG. Now, OTG is
also used by Xerox, so there's a lot of companies that use this
particular database which kind of pulls all the pictures together that
we scan in.
These are the community development various applications:
building permits; code enforcement files; drawings or the as-builts
for site development -- or excuse me, for subdivisions; miscellaneous
documents that people need from time to time. We have people
come in, say, "I need to have this scanned. I need to have it burnt to
a disc so that I can view it at home." We can do that for them. That's
another benefit to this program.
And the nice thing about the CD that you burn is that when you
throw it into your computer at home, you don't need any special
software, and it's self-activating. It opens up, and it's -- it's very easy
to use. So that's a cost saving as well..
The site development plans are in the zoning area. There's
several different fields that you can search on. If you don't know a
particular project name but you know one of the words in the name --
like we're going to use Bello Medical Center, and we're going to type
in B-e-l-l-o with an asterisk. And this shows you all the various
document types that go with that SDP.
Now, if you said you wanted to have this burned on a CD
because there were some problems occurring with this SPD, you
could request it from community development, and they would burn
a disk for you, and you could view it at your leisure.
We'll go down to site plan because that always has a lot of color,
and you can see the real ability of this particular product.
Not only will this -- this particular software store images but
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also store voice files. It will store video files, just about anything that
has a file extension on it, if we can just get to it come up here
quickly. This only takes a second or two.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: You notice how easy he makes it
look.
MR. BLALOCK: This will already be taken care of. I
apologize for it. We switched laptops at the last second.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: How come my laptop doesn't
work that fast?
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: You've got to push the keys, Tom.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Oh. I'll remember that.
MR. BLALOCK: Okay. I told you it wouldn't take that long.
Okay. The nice thing about this, it's all wireless, too, so we just
download it that fast over a wireless connection. Okay. This is --
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: This is for the wireless connection,
or is that throughout the whole county complex?
MR. BLALOCK: This -- this is just a particular setup. The
wireless connection over here is -- I think one of the commissioners
used to use a lot.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Pam Mac'Kie.
MR. BLALOCK: Pam Mac'Kie used to use a lot.
MS. LEAMER: In this building the first, second, and third floor
have wireless and the fifth floor.
MR. BLALOCK: Every -- every time they scan in a particular
document, they put a cover page that shows basic information. This
is Bello Medical Offices.
We're going to take a look at the -- what the building actually
looks like, and I just happen to know it's on page 20. So we can go to
any page we want to go to. And that's what the building actually
looks like.
Now, we can also scan in 3-D things, like, siding. So let's say
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we wanted to see what the siding really was supposed to look like,
and I just happen to know that's the last one. There you go.
Now, obviously, we can't scan in 4-by-4s and things like that,
but we can scan in things like brick veneers or paint chips. And
here's a copy of-- or here's an example of paint chips that we scanned
in.
Now, why is this important? For monitoring. You want to go
out there and make sure when they said they were going to paint this
thing coral or peach or whatever that it's actually painted that color.
How many times have you seen in the last part of the site
development the dollars are getting stretched real thin and things that
get kind of skimpier are the landscaping or the painting and the
awnings and so forth?
So this way, we could print this out, take it to the site -- one of
our monitors could take it to the site and actually see if, in fact, the
trim was painted the way it was supposed to be painted, that the
siding is the color that it is supposed to be, that it actually is vinyl
siding, that it's not something else. So this is -- this saves time,
effort.
And when you have it, proof is in the pudding. When you have
it, you show the contractor this is what you said you were going to
do, there's no argument. And the nice thing about this is, as I said,
there were three different problems: records retentions, records
retrieval, and storage. When you have a site development plan and
you have, let's say, a strip store and you have 13 businesses going in
there, you have a site plan for each one of those businesses. How
many times would a person touch this particular site plan? It could
be up to 25 -- 20 times that they have to retrieve this information.
You're going to lose things if it's loose. If you have it scanned in,
you're not going to lose it. This thing's backed up every night. The
indexing that we get is backed up as well.
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MR. AXELROD: As -- as you go on to the GIS -- MR. BLALOCK: Uh-huh.
MR. AXELROD: -- start, you have to realize that -- that the
process that this is replacing is totally manual. So, you know, you
would maybe expect there to be some automation there, but the
improvement that this represents is substantial.
MR. OLLIFF: And -- and how far back have we already got site
development plans scanned in?
MR. BLALOCK: We're keeping current with what we have, so
anything new that comes in gets scanned right away as soon as it's
approved, not as soon as it's applied for. So if you don't see
something on there, it may not have been approved. CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Question--
MR. BLALOCK: It will scan back all the way -- we've scanned
back to 1996, and we're going to keep going.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: How far back are you going to go?
MR. BLALOCK: I believe we have -- we have things back in
the '70s. We have -- we have some -- they're -- site improvement
plans I think they were called back then.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Is that cost effective? Do you
have to access those on a frequent basis sufficient to justify the
conversion?
MR. BLALOCK: Sure. Some -- some of the real old ones,
those historic documents are very important because there are things
that were agreed to. And a lot of those people aren't around anymore.
So we want -- we want to make sure that what's agreed to is adhered
to, yeah.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: The data that's going to be on there,
suppose I'm John Q. Public and I want to see if a certain shopping
center met all the qualifications. Would I be able to access it?
MR. BLALOCK: No. Not -- not at this point in time. Let me
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tell you why.
Right now this is an intranet system, which means we're on this
side of the firewall. We are working very diligent-- very diligently
about getting it out to the public so that land development attorneys
and engineers could look at what we are looking at, and we could talk
over the phone about it. But in the events of 9/11, we're having to
rethink that do you really want to have worldwide access for
everyone to a bank plan, a school system -- CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Water.
MR. BLALOCK: -- water, yeah, because utility-- utility is
coming on next with this, utilities and transportation. They're going
to be putting all the roads in there, all the -- the junction boxes, the
lift stations. We really have to think about what -- how much
information do you want to give people?
Now -- now, it's public record; there's no doubt about that. But
if you come in and ask for this information, we have a face. Before
we don't. Could be somewhere -- we don't know where. I had a
gentleman e-mail me the other day from New Zealand asking me for
information. You talk about 24-7. It's coming so -- anything else?
(No response.)
MR. BLALOCK: Okay. Let's take a look at Mr. Bello's
property. Whoops. Sorry about that. Where we're at right now is the
property appraiser's office, and I'm doing a search for any property
that belongs to this person.
MR. AXELROD: This is the GIS system.
MR. BLALOCK: This is the GIS. Try it again.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: While we're trying to pull that
up, I was on there last night showing my wife some of the neat stuff
that you can do with that, actually get down to -- yeah, we get into
Leo's backyard and see if he's cut his grass.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'll be joking; you can get that
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close?
COMMISSIONER CARTER: You be careful what you put in
your backyard these days.
MR. BLALOCK: I happen to know this particular property is --
is the one we are talking about on Ridge Street.
Now, this down here are the details (indicating). This -- this
tells you a little bit about the property, who owns it and the millage
and the amount paid and so forth. Now, if we come back, you'll
know that this (indicating) is the selected area of the property we
were just viewing in the EDMS system.
If you want to find out who owns this property over here
(indicating), you would just click identify and then point to it
somewhere within this parameter, and that would give you all the
information on that. So if there was a complaint that came in, you
could find out. "Well, give me your address. We'll type it in. Where
is this person?" You can do it right over the phone. "Okay. I know
exactly the person you're talking about. That's Mr. So and So or
Mrs. So and So." So it's a benefit to you as well, because I'm sure
you get calls like that from time to time. Is there anybody's particular
home they want to look at or -- okay. You can also draw --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Or Leo's backyard.
MR. BLALOCK: Yeah, you can -- you can zoom in. Let's say
we just want to see the property itself. And that's the property. If we
wanted to, we could print it right now, see if it will print. And what it
does, it creates an HTML page, like a web page. Then all you have
to do is print it like you would a web page on the internet. I don't
know if everybody's familiar with that, but here it is right here.
There's the picture. I would just go up to file and click print and send
it to whatever printer I want to send it to.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Then you can e-mail that to
somebody.
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MR. BLALOCK: You sure could. Sure could.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: So there is a way to accommodate
the public to some degree.
MR. BLALOCK: Sure. And I've tried it on slower lines. It's
pretty nice now.
We have a product that -- that we're working on in the county
manager's agency that's going to be -- that's going to have this -- this
type of capability, but it's also going to have other information
regarding environmental, land use, and things -- things of that sort,
and we've got our connection just about completed today. It's just --
just -- I think they're doing it even now as we speak, so we should be
all hooked up, ready to go. Okay?
MR. AXELROD: Good.
exciting stuff, I think.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA:
So that's -- that's a pretty -- pretty
It is.
MR. AXELROD: All right. We're a little bit behind time right
now, so we're going to go a little quick. This organizational diagram
shows the departments, the divisions that I have surveyed, you know,
in trying to figure out what -- where the IT department stands and get
some feedback for them. And basically the bottom line here is that
we're doing pretty good. Things are getting better. We need to just
get some discipline, more discipline in accumulating data so that we
can show you metrics, why we're looking to make certain
investments because certain business reasons, certain departments
want to us do more for them in certain areas or our -- our practice and
procedures aren't up to snuff in certain areas. We're going to be
doing a lot of measuring in a lot of different areas. And when we talk
to you in the future, you'll be seeing some numbers that kind of give
us management direction. That -- that's pretty much the bottom -- the
bottom line here.
As we go forward now, we're finished with the first half of the
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presentation. We're going into the future now and a little bit of the --
the strategic direction areas.
What's happened over time here is that computers came into the
organization; people started doing spreadsheets on them and realizing
that they could do things in -- by themselves, and then Phase 2 we
started to get some reliable infrastructure; the band width started to
increase. We started to see departmental business applications
emerge. People realized they could do things for the department. In
the -- in Phase 3 the infrastructure became mission critical. It's really
robust now. It's way up more than it's down. And the first-
generation network application started to appear. This was about
three, four years ago where the department started making the
investments in the software that currently run their business.
At the same time we started to see a grass-roots internet
initiative where things started occurring, but really nobody knew
what was going on and how big it was going to get.
And in Phase 4, where we kind of are now, we're seeing agency-
wide application deployments; you just seen that. We're seeing more
attention paid to life cy -- life-cycle application costs and support.
And we now have a real issue because we're behind an E-
government, what we're doing for the public.
So one way of looking at this is that over time we had a
technology focus early on. We needed to because we were building
infrastructure. Now we have an application focus. We're thinking
about more -- what are we doing with this infrastructure. What are
we doing as a business? We're not thinking about the pieces and
parts underneath.
Another way of looking at that is we had an internal focus. We
were serving the business of the county from the departmental view.
And what we're really doing now and what we're ready to do is to
serve and provide information to the constituents and to the
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customers, both internal and external. So all of this up until now,
what I'm telling you is, the investments that you made over the last
five years have given us the position, and we're poised now to do
with incremental investments, not major ones, to get to the point
where we can share this information with the public and bring the
services to 24 by 7.
So we're going to be talking about that. Now when we talk
about what's going on, if we look at the chargeable hours that we
provide in the applications area, 57 percent of the hours that we
charge now are in the category of agency-wide applications. So we
have really made the break from the departmental focus to the
agency-wide focus. The infrastructure is now broad enough to do
that. And connecting it to the internet, as you'll see, you know, it's
been done but not really done well from -- from the holistic
perspective.
Well, when we talked about our strategic responsibilities, now,
we've done a pretty good job, I think, in the top two. You know,
we're continuing to grow in those areas, but I think if you look at
other counties, other cities, we're behind in E-government. And I
think that, you know, that's where we are, but we're ready to go now.
The first thing we need to do is define what we mean by
government, and I'm offering this as a -- as a discussion right now.
Any unattended exchange of information between the county and
noncounty by any means of telecommunications, which includes both
telephone system and the internet, is what I'm considering E-
government. In a lot of respects, you know, when you look at the
constituent base, you have to take into account universal access, and
we can do an awful lot with the phones, and the phones are more
widespread than the internet right now, although there is a very good
base of internet users as well.
Now, we have -- we have a couple different types of internet
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presence right now. We have -- we call static information pages
where people just put contact information up. The content really
doesn't change all that much. And if you want to change it, it's right
now kind of hard and labor intensive to create that content on a
repetitive basis.
We've seen this a lot. The departments have gone out and
created a web page, and it was a -- you know, somebody had a
hobby, and they -- they did a gung-ho job on it, and they went out
and updated it. The first time it was a little less fun. The second time
they updated it was a little less fun. And, you know, the third update
didn't happen for a While. It was hard work. And they're -- they had
jobs to do. There's no positions allocated to this; there's no budget
for it. So this was just -- because it was the right thing to do and they
could do it, it was done. But we're really not providing any
infrastructure to them in order to help them do this.
Now, we've also got some what we call dynamic websites,
which means that they actually touch county databases, so somebody
could get on and actually ask for something that's current. And it
changes on a day-to-day basis. And we have a number of those
services out there too.
And then you have interactive web services where we're really
just getting into that where we will show you an application that does
take a credit card transaction for -- for permits, and we do that.
Just to show you the breadth of stuff out there, I have two pages,
this page and this page. These are all websites, all department
websites that the county departments have put up there. And if you
look, I would -- I would say that if you -- you tried to find out how
much explicit budget you have put forward for people to do internet
work, you know, you might not find much. But look how much has
happened. There's a lot -- there's a lot of pages out there. There's a
lot of good pages out there.
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One of the problems right now is that there's no thematic tie
between these. They don't look like they're part of the same
organization. Some of them are kind of hard to find, even though
we've kind of covered them in the colliergov.net portal. And then
within their pages some of the information is still yet harder to find.
But if you go further, this page on web services, these are
actually services that are live on the internet that dip into county
databases. When we did the -- we attended the economic
development commission's connecting Collier County session. There
was a consultant there that asked a couple questions about what
services we had up on the internet. And every one of the questions
he said, well, yeah, we do that. There was two things that happened.
First of all, a lot of people in the room didn't know that we did that
because we haven't told anybody. And -- and I -- I come from -- to
the county from a dot com that proved build it and they will come
doesn't work. You really have to tell people what's on the internet.
So that was one thing.
But the other thing is that the services that he uses as a
benchmark for whether a county has appropriate -- has achieved an
appropriate level of internet services, we answered yes to all those
questions. So we -- we took each other's cards, and we talked a little
bit later. And he ranks us very highly as far as the number of web
services and the type of web services that we have.
The problem is, you know, it-- it kind of looks disconnected,
and it's really hard to find. And most of these are business-to-
government niches, for instance, you know, in the community
development area where it's a very small group of people. It's good --
I mean, it's good for the interaction of the community development
business, but it's not focused to public generally. Okay. And when
you start doing that, of course, you have to be able to tell people
about it.
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Now, I'm just looking at the time. And I'd like to give a quick
demo of a couple of these services, but we really need to go quick.
George Santos who wrote most of these applications will do a quick
overview of them. Warp speed, my man. MR. SANTOS: Okay.
MR. OCHS: Warp speed, George.
MR. SANTOS: I'll get to the internet.
MR. AXELROD: Those mikes are live, George.
MR. SANTOS: Let me just bring up -- I'll go through the
Collier Gov portal just to show you what that looks like and how you
access these.
Well, this is the new portal page that was up a couple months
ago. And I want to, first, start off by showing you the -- the E-
permits on line. That is the first and only site that we have that
accepts credit cards. This is set up where right now only three types
of applications for permits can be -- can be done on line. A user will
come in, and they would select the type of permit, one of these three,
fill in all the information that is necessary to -- to -- to process that
permit, and they would have to -- all this data would then be verified
against existing databases within these CD plus Perconte system, and
I'll just put my address in here. I know it's interesting, because I
know who I am. And you can select -- and to verify, I'd have to --
you'd have to match the address with the owners' names. MR. OLLIFF: Last name first.
MR. SANTOS: It doesn't really matter. I can cheat -- I can put
in -- as long as these names are in the address line, on the owner's
address line, they'll come out. Now, if I was a contractor, I'd click
here contractor, and I would put in my certification number, the name
of my business, and my PIN. In order for a contractor to use this
system, they have to come in and register with CD Plus with their
PIN number so they can access the system. And in order for legality
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purposes, I have to put in my name here which would actually be
printed out on the permit receipt. I must have hit it too quickly.
Then I click submit. And it will process that. If everything is
correct, my address is correct, the -- it will go through the tables,
figure out what my -- my fee is, and then I'll make the credit card
payment. And I'll go in here and fill out this information.
And once I fill out all this information, I would actually proceed
to secure server where I would pass my credit card number and
expiration date. And this is handed off to the vender, I-Transact, who
actually does the credit card transaction, will send us back a code
saying it's approved, and we would go on and present the -- the
applicant with a listing that they can print out a receipt for that
permit, the inspection, his -- the inspection permit receipt, as well as
the actual permit. So they can print all that out. Everything is done
on line. The only time the CD knows about it is when it comes up in
the inspection report and they go out there and inspect the property.
So it's completely hands off.
So that's one of them. The other one I wanted to show you -- is
there any questions about that one in particular? (No response.)
MR. SANTOS: The other I wanted to show you was from a
different agency, just to give you an idea that we're -- we're looking
at everybody. Became more familiar with this laptop before I came
up here. Under pollution control, this website was developed. Ray
Smith asked me if there was some way to put up all the -- the
monitoring and -- and measurements that they do for all the surface
water throughout the county. And we came up with this system
where you can go to any one of these different basins and-- and click
on a particular system, and you'll come up with all the different
measuring sites that they have and see what the -- where it's located
and what the water quality is.
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And you can further drill down into particular measuring site
and look at all this very technical measurements. But you can see the
different water quality index and-- and all the information about that.
And if there's a particular measurement you want to look, say
magnesium at that particular site, you can further drill down and get
all the measurements for that site, the date it was taken, and what the
measurement is.
So it goes into a lot of detail. And, again, this is an example of
how you can get into -- into databases in the county.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: How often this is updated, water
quality, for instance?
MR. SANTOS: That's something at pollution control. They're
responsible for making those measurements and updating the
database. And Ray Smith is going -- going through that and updating
that now.
MR. AXELROD: The beauty of this is they do this as a matter
of course. Whenever they update their database, this information is
posted in this application. For instance, we -- we just have to make
sure that the application runs. But they, by doing the normal course
of their business, update their database, and it's updated to the public.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Does that mean that two --
September 20th of 2000 was the last time it was updated?
MR. SANTOS: That's the last piece of information they have.
MR. AXELROD: From that site.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Water quality sure could change.
MR. AXELROD: Well, I don't know what their cycle is, but
that's what's in their database right now.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
MR. SANTOS: The other one I wanted to show you was under
community development. A lot of these -- a lot of these programs
I've got to -- to mention Don Blalock's name. He was the driving
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force behind it coming to us and asking us if we could put this sort of
information on line, and we did.
There's one -- oh, I know where I want to go. Now, this is one
that a -- a administrative clerk in community development was
putting these reports together every month. She would run this
report, make a number of copies of each one of these reports, put
them together, and snail mail them out to different people who -- who
wanted these reports, gave summaries of-- of the type of permits.
For example, say you wanted to look at well permits by issue date.
Now you can just click on it, and it will go in and get the actual
document that she prepared, and you can download it. But this --
now she doesn't have to mail it out. She just puts it on line. If you
want it, you can look at it.
Now, from there we went to the point, well, if it's -- what if it's
not exactly what you wanted, you can come in here and customize
your own report right now. You can go in there and put in your own
parameters for a particular report that you wanted from permitting.
For example, once this loads, it will take all the information from
permitting with the parameters that you insert and give you a report
for it, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Now it's beginning to look more
like my computer.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: While we're waiting for that, a
question: What kind of income are -- are we looking for in the
future, E-government, are we looking for in the future?
MR. AXELROD: What-- what kind? There's own-- you
know, at -- at this point I'm looking at two major areas. One is
information presentation and the ability to do very efficient updates
of information to keep it current. So, for instance, you know, we're
talking about sites, for instance, like the parks that have new events
going on every week. Right now it's a major issue for them to be
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able to update the website that often because the content generation
tools that they have are not -- are not sufficient. So if we could
provide all the departments ways of doing that efficiently so that their
current staffer with minimal additions, we could -- we could keep that
information current, that would be the first thing. So we'd have --
we'd have a thematic tie, tools to provide to the -- to the departments,
and ways for them to update information easily.
The other aspect of E-government is transactional where people
could come in and request information, essentially avoiding trips to
counter services at the government offices, you know, that are
running 8 to 5 Monday through Friday now where they would be able
to transact that sort of business 24 hours a day at their leisure, you
know, from their home.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do we know what the demand
is for that type of service?
MR. AXELROD: In some cases, we -- we have some
inclination of it. But in others, what we are looking at is the business
experts who know what the counter demand is; they know their
transactions; we can see that in some of the departmental
applications. So that would give us the first targets.
But the other thing that we need to do -- and that's one thing that
we -- we have instituted here -- is the ability to measure exactly what
happens on the internet so that we have a measurement of-- of cause
and effect. If we -- if we put a service up and we do a certain
advertising campaign behind it, how much traffic is driven to the
internet, measure it again with counter service off-loading to
determine if that's, you know, an incremental load or a taking-off-
load.
So we have those pieces that are being put into place in small
scale right now. But right now it's also only the -- the -- it's really --
the enterprise division is the one that are enterprise funded that are
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doing most of this, and it's mostly targeted at the business
transactions as opposed to public transactions.
MR. OCHS: We're done. George, we've got to move on.
MR. SANTOS: I was going to show as an example, these are
some of the hits. We've had 20 -- 2400 hits to these interactive web
pages since the 9th of January.
MR. AXELROD: Thanks, George.
MS. LEAMER: As Barry mentioned earlier, too,
Commissioner, another key component of the E-government strategy
going forward is going to be our phone system. And we are going to
put some measurement tools in place so we can start to see where --
where the calls are coming from, when they're calling, what services
are being demanded. And we're going to get into some more details
now on the citizen relationship management, call center, managing
complaints, using the phones and the web services for the whole E-
government initiative.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: All right.
MR. AXELROD: I just want to point, this is exactly what
Commissioner Henning just asked about, which is a measurement
system home brewed. You know, we basically did this ourselves, but
the idea is that every one of those web services that have been
identified George put -- put a metric behind. And you could see that
in about a week which services are getting -- you know, there are
some that are getting very little activity, and there are some that are
getting a lot of activity. And we will over time be able to look at that
data, analyze it, go back to the departments, share that with them and
make directions and recommendations, both to them and to you.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: That's great.
MR. AXELROD: All right. Go find where I got killed here.
I've got a lot of things I have to kill here. All right.
All right. So we're going to start with the discussion on E-
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government right now. We have found out some pretty interesting
things. The -- the SAP suite of software that has already been
licensed by the county for the financial management system has E-
government modules to it that we have already licensed. So the
major costs of acquiring the software licenses for E-government have
been done, and it was done as part of suite of software that was part
of the FMS purchase. Now, what we -- what we don't have is an
implementation plan. They're not being touched this year. This year
we're implementing the financials only, and that's nonnegotiable,
folks. That's a really aggressive project, so we're not looking to do
more with that this year.
But next year, you would with implementation fees that we --
that, you know, we can budget for next year, we could implement
these E-government services or these modules and roll these services
out. You know, again, it's -- it's one of the things that we're going to
be looking to do.
MS. LEAMER: Can you explain what some of those modules
will do?
MR. AXELROD: There's two major modules. One of them is
what they call portals, which is the management system for the static
web pages, more or less. It gives all of the departments the means to
create web pages within a standard consistent framework, which will,
you know, automatically give you the consistent look and feel to
thematic ties that we want. That's number one. That's a six-figure
tool. And, you know, it came as -- bundled in with the FMS
purchase.
The other tool is what they call an interaction center, which is
exactly what -- what Chairman Coletta asked about as far as contact
management. And, you know, it's -- it's part of a bigger industry
product called CRM, which is customer relationship management.
So we own a professional tool. Of course, we haven't implemented it
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yet, but that is the long-term solution, because it will sit on an
infrastructure that we can support from a major vender for a long
time.
So those are the -- those are the two modules that we own.
There might be a third module that we don't own that may be -- may
be needed. But it's not very expensive. I've just begun the research
on this. And that will be part of the discussion we can have during
the FY '03 budget cycle.
All right. In the meantime -- in the meantime, between now and
then, you know, we want to keep doing what we're doing, because
there's an awful lot of good work and a lot of good people doing a lot
of good things to provide services for their customers in the
departments. But, you know, it -- if we keep doing what we're doing,
we're not going to get where we want to go, so we have to do
something different.
Now, when you look at the -- at your organization, I imagine
you see it somewhat like this. Now, this is a little weird, but I need
you to take a look at this. When we see it, we see it like this.
What we see is a bunch of applications, a bunch of hardware
servers, a bunch of databases. That's what those -- those -- the
bottom icons are all sitting on a network. That's -- that's by necessity
how the IT department sees the organization.
Now, what -- what we want to do is, you know, we've connected
those databases to the internet, and we do that through a secure
firewall. But that was the first step. So we have the infrastructure in
place to do that.
What we don't have is the framework. So what we want to see
happen is the CRM framework which basically dips into all these
databases on demand and can put that in connection with the phone
system or the internet, and that's what customer relationship
management is.
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So, for instance, if you have a constituent that is -- is active with
the county government and a couple of different departments -- they
may have a permitting request; they may have a special request going
on; they may have a financial request. And they have, right now,
three separate actions -- that's very hard for us to tie together that --
that one constituent or one company may be making requests of us.
The CRM system is built to look into these databases, look for
common identifiers, like a name, and be able to bring that up on a --
on a single screen to say that Constituent Smith has got these current
activities going, and here's his request history and those sort of things
so that we can provide better services to customers.
Now, this whole genre of products -- CRM is -- you know, you
interact with them as a customer of big businesses all the time. I
mean, you call up any company, you know, a brokerage house, a
phone company or whatever, they have a record of your contact. So
when you tell them your phone number or whatever mechanism they
use to identify you and they bring that information up and you can
tell when that happens because they're telling you things about
conversations that happened before. It might be in a giant call center
where your call -- your call hardly ever, you know, would go to the
same person twice, but yet that other person can pick up the ball and
provide continuity of service to you because they have that record.
Well, this is the system that they have, and the good news is that
we own that module as well or at least a good major portion of it.
And the -- the requests that have been coming to us about contact
management, managing issues and providing better customer service
and tying these things together, well, this is our -- our view of what is
needed to do that. And what we're going to do is evaluate the options
that we have, both within this SAP infrastructure and with other
products to determine what the best one is, and we will present that to
you in the FY '03 budget discussion. But, again, that implementation
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in -- in a major sense is not going to happen this year. It will be a
candidate for next year's -- next year's tasks.
All right. So I -- I wanted to get you comfortable with the term
CRM and the definition that we're using for it, okay, because that's
going to be part of what we're going to be seeing in the -- in the
budget submissions.
MR. OLLIFF: But -- I want to interrupt here because this is
really important to me personally because I think 70 percent of the
calls that you get are constituents who are calling you because they
don't know where else to call. And they're simply trying to get an
answer. They're trying to get some service. They're trying to get a
response of some kind out of this organization. And we're trying to
develop a system that will allow the public to be able to have easy
access and get what they're looking for without having to know what
our org chart looks like.
Right now they pretty much have to know what section it is.
And if I want to know, because I've got flooding water in a drainage
ditch in front of my house, I don't know, looking at org chart,
whether that's road and bridge or storm water or whom that may be.
And I've got to find a way to make our services easier to access,
rather than going through the elected policy making Board of County
Commissioners in order to have somebody take a look at that ditch in
front of my house. And so this is important to me, from that
perspective, because I think it will put us in a much better position to
be able to do that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Then how do you report the
problem? Can you report the problem through the system?
MR. OLLIFF: Absolutely. Not only does it report it, it provides
a history then of what we've done before, and it provides responses
back to the customer, and it keeps a history of what we've done in
that particular location.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: So somebody that calls daily, every
day, every day, two, three, four times a day to report code
enforcement violations, right, they can actually do that through the
computer instead?
MR. OLLIFF: Well, they can do it through this customer
relations center, if you will. And -- and we can set that up a number
of ways so that it is digitally entered through a phone, hand pad, or--
or they can do it face to face or customer to customer, voice to voice,
so that we actually have personal contact, because one of the things
that I don't think you as a board want to lose is the ability for the
customer to have personal contact with the organization because I
think this community continues to think that is very, very important,
and so do we.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, that -- that leads to a question
that I'd written down. Maybe is not the time. Maybe I should ask for
it later. But what are we trying to do to personalize this service rather
than -- than just have machines in place? But maybe you could
answer that later.
MR. AXELROD: Well, you know, I think it's actually an
appropriate time to answer that. When -- the feedback we've been
getting from the departments is that whatever we do is going to
augment all of the existing means. It's going to provide more choices
to the constituents on how they want to interact with the government
so the existing means are not going to go away. But by the same
token, with the growth we're seeing in the area, it's an expensive
proposition to try to staff the government to keep up with that kind of
service. So what we're going to do is provide more options. You can
do it by phone; you can do it by intemet; you can do it in person.
And you can do it on your time, or you can do it on our time. And
it's not going to diminish the -- the -- the way the services are
provided now at all. It will be in addition to them.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: So there are some departments that
seem to have their answering machine on 24-7, but there's never a
call-back made or -- and for people who aren't computerized or who
are maybe computer illiterate like moi, for instance, maybe they need
to talk to somebody to find out how to obtain that information. But
when they call and they only get a machine answering and then they
don't get a return call, that's very frustrating, so then they call us.
MR. AXELROD: Right. That's a very good point. In fact, in
the discussions that we've had with the departments, they understand
that as we move to more access methods that their business, that their
operations have to adapt. They have to change. And in some cases
they're going to come back to you and say I need to staff and other
positions to be able to handle this extra load or to handle this extra
mode of communications.
So when we expect the agencies or the departments to be able to
handle 24-hour service and be able to clear their cues every morning
for things that came in overnight, you know, that is going to become
part of their expectation, and it will have an impact. But the service
impact is what's going to be noted too.
If I could just give you one story -- this is a very simple
example. We talked with the department of animal services, because
there's a very interesting simple, from an implementation point of
view, web application that we -- that we talked about, which is every
time an animal comes into the shelter, take a picture of it so we can
put it on the web. Every time an animal leaves the shelter, take it off
the web so that if anybody wants to look at the inventory and decide
to come down and pick up a puppy that they can do it on the web by
a picture before they come in.
And the answer was, we thought of that already. But, you know,
animals come in at two o'clock in the morning. And, you know,
during the day where, you know, we don't have the staff to guarantee
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that, the inventory isn't going to be right. Animals may leave that
their pictures don't get taken off timely, and animals may be in there.
They thought that that was actually a worse service to the public than
not doing it at all.
So they've thought through the impact of these other services
and options that we can provide, and they said, you know, we can't
do it right now. But they're thinking about it, and it will be a
discussion that they're going to have with -- with management, you
know, going forward.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Speaking of animal services,
they're ones that have their phones on 24-7. And as we heard last
night in our workshop, some of the calls don't get replaced for two
and three weeks. And would people be able to report animals
running loose and then have that -- that -- that concern responded to
immediately? Is there a capability of doing that?
MR. AXELROD: Basic business services, you know, those are
the type of decisions have to be made at the department levels.
What -- what I'm saying is that we can provide the technical means to
provide more communications options for the constituents to make
those requests, and how they handle them is going to be a business
process issue for each individual department.
MS. LEAMER: The CRM will also track activity so you'll have
work flow. You'll know a call came in and didn't get answered. So
there will be better service to the customer and more personalized
service, because whoever takes that call will be able to look at the
entire history of that-- that individual.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: A good comparison would be very
similar to when you receive a request by e-mail now, you forward it
on, and it's moved from department to department as they move
forward towards an answer; then the final conclusion comes back,
and you can see that whole history. I would take it this would be
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something very similar to that. MS. LEAMER: Correct.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: And we would be able to access it
and be able to find out what's happening on matters of importance to
our own constituents.
MR. OCHS: Barry, we need to keep moving.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Commissioner, just one thing,
and, Tom, I really read where you're coming from because we've got
a couple issues here. One, we want a user-friendly system that says
the people -- this is the easiest way to reach anybody, and this is how
you can get the quickest response. But out there as a customer, I
have to know how to get to it. I have to know what it is for those
who are computer illiterate and are wanting to use that process.
It all takes it -- it also takes us back into an ordinance which in
some ways have caused some confusion on what we can do and can't
do as body politics. This helps clean that system because people get
what they're looking for.
The other thing that I see is that, frankly, leaving things on a
voice mail are pretty outdated because a long time ago IBM had a
system on complaint calls. Those were computerized. You could
pick those off the screen. You don't need more people. All you need
was the software to pick up the call, puts it in there, you come in,
click on a screen in the morning, go right down that list at any time
and pick them off.
So those are the kinds of things that I see us doing to enhance
customer service because that's the number one goal. We don't have
any cust -- I mean we -- you say you always have customers, but
customers are our business. That's what we're all about. And
sometimes I think we lose sight of that, and it gets lost in the system
where we're not user friendly.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Speaking of user friendly and lost in
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the system, at last night's meeting one of the biggest problems they
were having within Immokalee was the lack of access to government,
especially when it comes to the regular meeting agendas. We went to
great lengths to provide tapes to the school system to play a -- play,
as far as our commission meetings went. It hasn't been done yet.
And the residents out there feel quite disenfranchised. We talked
some time ago and I heard it mentioned here about going on line with
our county commission meetings. How about Channel 54 being on a
voice type of system? It can't be that difficult. I know a number of
radio stations have done it. It would be something that would help in
the short run.
And, also, too, is there any way we could get the complete
agenda on line where a person could pull it up as they so choose?
This is a big problem. People would like to have access to it out
there, not only in Immokalee, but the south Golden Gate Estates and
Everglades City. They don't get the Naples Daily News. And they
just feel like -- they feel like they find out about everything after the
fact when they can no longer react.
MR. AXELROD: Sure. Those things can be done. And I don't
know what the cost involved with the voice transmission of Channel
54 is, but the web contents certainly can be done. MR. OLLIFF: Barry, keep it moving.
MR. AXELROD: Right. We have got basically two slides left
to go, so we're close to -- close on schedule here.
Final recommendations for E-government is that this year we
would like to implement a measurement system for the phone system.
This is just to understand what the load is on that means of electronic
communication so we can -- we can make investment decisions and
then evaluate the effectiveness of them in the future. And we'd like
to do that this year.
The measurement system for the website that you saw that we've
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kind of got something going there, we're really not going to ask -- do
more this year there but we are -- everything we do on the web needs
to be measured again. It's a very important factor.
Just as Commissioner Carter just pointed out, some of the
advanced phone features are already being asked for by some of the
operating units. This year utilities is asking for what they call
integrated voice response which is the ability to get on after hours
and have, you know, what's my bill balance, you know, can I -- can I
pay, this type of thing. And you do that by touch tone on the phone
system. They're asking to do that now. Of course, that could be
leveraged if we do it right -- more broadly throughout the other
departments. And the -- the ability, for instance, to get voice mails
and present them to e-mail and have e-mails presented on voice mail,
that capability exists as well within the phone-switching capability
that we have. But it's additional features that we need to evaluate and
costs before we're ready to make a recommendation on that, but we're
doing that. We are involved with them now on that evaluation.
We are strongly suggesting that we do an implement --
implementation of the CRM in the E-government modules of the
SAP system for next year and be able to roll that out probably in the
second half of FY '03.
Operational direction, from a staffing point of view, we are
making sure that our people are working on the customer
relationships inside the county government, and we will, of course,
extend that to the constituents as the E-government rolls out. And we
are looking for some targeted opportunities to -- to use variable
costing, outsource services to -- to do some of the things that we have
been doing on the technology platform basis so that we could pay
attention to these growth barriers and provide these services with
local -- with local support.
Internally what the feedback said is we need to tell people what
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we do, what we don't do, and how to interact with us better. And
that's part of this customer team initiative that we talked about. And
we also maintained the capability to serving new technology so that
when things become ready and we can take advantage of them like
handheld computers and like video conferencing, that we give those
opportunities to businesses to make those decisions as their business
needs demand it.
And finally, the deliverables, what you can expect to see from us
in the future. We have a lot of planning to do, a lot of-- you know,
the dollars that we deal with demand it. We are going to be doing a
two-year rolling IT plan that's going to be based -- used as a basis for
the service offerings and budgets admissions in the future. That one
-- you'll see the first one of those in a couple of months.
We're going to be preparing an E-government master plan, and
this is also part of the two-year IT plan. It will be part of that. But
that's a little bit more complex right now because we're behind in that
area. So we're going to be doing some external benchmarking of
other similar-size counties, find out what they did, how they did it,
what works. We'll understand their cost structure of supporting it in
the long run, some of their policy issues as well, and we'll be
covering that.
Business continuity plan, this is a major deliverable right now
that we're working on which has to take into account the issues that
we discussed in the new -- new world that we live in.
We are also recognizing -- I think that you'll see this as well --
the databases. The databases are really the strategic IT asset of the
county. And a lot of them are under our care through our database
administration and the applications that sit on top of them. But
there's an awful lot -- we suspect there's really valuable information
that is, like, on people's Excel spreadsheets. And we're trying to go
through a -- an exercise right now to flush them out and to put them
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under maintenance and support them properly where they exist
because we can build valuable applications around those databases.
We also need to do a -- a long-term financial plan, very much
like what facilities has done because, you know, we have an
infrastructure that needs to be maintained. And there are planned
expenses, for instance, you know, operating system upgrades, you
know, obsolescence of equipment, obsolescence of applications
where we can do long-term financial planning, and we can give you
long-term financial options, whether or not you want to, you know,
bond things or -- or whatever financing mechanisms you want to use.
So we are going to embark upon that as well, and that will improve
over time, but we'll have a first cut at that this year.
And, again, you know, we go -- we continue to look at work
methods, you know, which include the -- the ability to use local
contract resources in order to keep our costs under control but keep
the service levels up to the standards that we want to provide and that
the departments expect of us.
And that concludes the presentation. So at this point we're open
for discussion.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Questions on behalf of the
commissioners?
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Just a comment for myself. It
looks like a lot of these improvements are going to come under the
general fund. And knowing the struggles that we have with the
general fund, I appreciate the efforts, and I'm looking forward to
seeing what it looks like during the budget process. MR. AXELROD: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Commissioner Coyle.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I think that's a very important
observation. I don't believe you're asking us for any decisions or
guidance right now, because I think we would all need some -- some
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fairly detailed cost-benefit analysis.
But the other -- other thing I'd like to ask you is -- and I think
the presentation has been very good. It's been very informative, and
I -- I benefitted from it. But I believe that the need for the services is
driven by your customers. And -- and I presume that -- that those are
the people who are going to be providing the rationale for doing the
kinds of things you're doing. So I presume you're doing this kind of
presentation for the customers you serve within the government
structure itself.
MR. AXELROD: Very much so. In fact, we -- we have
embarked upon, you know, monthly meetings at the division level.
We haven't fully rolled that out yet. But, you know, I've only been
here a month. We've started that with two divisions.
And when we come to ask for funding, which is inevitable, we
will come with customers, and we'll come with data, and that will be
the basis.
You know, we're not building infrastructure anymore for the
sake of building infrastructure. Now there needs to be a business
motivator in order to do this.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: It would be helpful when you do
that -- and I'm sure this must be your intent -- is to provide a cost-
benefit analysis for each of these investments.
MR. AXELROD: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Questions? Comments?
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I'd like to only second what you
see -- say, Commissioner Coyle, cost-benefit analysis.
I would also encourage you to see if there are any other possible
revenue streams outside of the general fund or other op -- option
funding for any of these initiation of certain programs and what I'm
going to refer to as infrastructure that may be available through
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whatever resource. So I would say get creative, think outside the box
to find funding so that we can meet the customer needs. And I think
one of the key things that you hit back on websites, to me, was there
are no thematic -- no theme tie. And this is an overriding problem in
this county; we don't have a theme. What do we look like? We do
some great stuff, but there is not uniformity, other than probably the
seal up there of the -- of the --
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Osceola turkey.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: And that's whatever happens to
be. But I would encourage you to -- to really think about that so that
when you bring all this back to us, looking at everything we're trying
to, it's easier for the customer to get focused -- it's easier for the
customer to say, "This is what I want. And when I see this, I know
that's what I want because there's the theme."
COMMISSIONER COYLE: That-- that brings up another
point, Commissioner Carter, and I think it's a very important one.
When we're looking at -- at funding methods, the transfers from
departments to pay for the services you provide are very important.
And -- and some of the departments who require your services can
certainly relate some benefit of those services to their specific job,
whether it's building roads or issuing permits or -- or doing things of
that nature, in which case I -- I would presume the impact fees would
cover part of this -- this cost. It would not.
MR. OLLIFF: No. You-- you generally are restricted to using
impact fees for capital improvements that are going to be used by the
development, if you will, that it's going to benefit from them. We do
have the ability on--
COMMISSIONER COYLE: User fees?
MR. OLLIFF: -- user fee side to pay for. In fact, I think this
department is probably almost one-third completely supported by
enterprise funds today. And with the -- the current update in the
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formula, that's probably going to even increase some.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Good.
MR. OLLIFF: But one of the things I do want the board to see
is that if you look at where the aggressive customer service efforts
have been made historically, they have been made by those enterprise
funds that had the resources to be able to fund and get their work
done. Your general fund applications are the ones that have lagged
significantly behind and why your FMS system is what it is and has
been for a decade, why your GIS system hasn't been accomplished
like it should have been over the years as well.
So I think Barry clearly sees, in looking at the organization, that
we -- we need to provide some balance from the -- the public demand
side of the house because right now it's simply the paying customers
who are starting to get the benefit of the services from IT and the
easier access to our government. That -- that probably needs to be
balanced out some in the long run.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: The only comment I'd like to make is
that Collier County -- Collier County, more or less, they say it sells
itself, location, location, location. But when it comes to government,
I think the important thing is access, access, access.
And it's so refreshing to hear the ideas that we came forward and
presented at our original orientations and at some of our beginning
meetings. And some of the requests that we made seem to be --
being -- taking place before us today. I -- I just love some of these
ideas if we can become more user friendly on all avenues, not only on
the computer end but on the phone end so that we can get to the
consumer reasonable answers in reasonable points of times and also
we can spot our deficiencies by the fact that we'll have the playback
from the public. I think we're getting there. I'm very proud of what
you're doing. And, of course, we've got a long ways to go. This
particular workshop has been, well, for the lack of a better words,
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very informative.
MR. AXELROD: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: And I thank you. Is there any other
comments or questions from the commissioners? I call this
meeting --
MR. OLLIFF: No, no, no.
MS. LEAMER: We're going to take a five-minute break and,
yeah, when we come back--
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I assumed when we reached the end
of the book, that was it.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: You've got another book.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: With more detailed information.
(A short break was held.)
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Take your seats. We'll continue with
the meeting.
MS. LEAMER: Okay. This second half of the workshop is
going to be discussing public information and public relations. Jean
Merritt's going to lead us through this discussion.
One thing I'd like you to keep in mind as we go through this
presentation is -- is what -- what you would like to see for this
department in the future. Would you like to see our efforts in the
area of marketing and public relations stay where they are at now or
take it to the next level? And we'll be looking for some feedback
from the commissioners on that.
And, Jean, why don't you go ahead and start.
MS. MERRITT: Thank you very much. It's a pleasure for me
to be here this morning. Our department is based on a multi-media
approach, and we have two major missions. Our -- our two major
missions are, of course, to provide timely and accurate information to
the public. That is number one. Number two is to provide support to
our fellow departments, because they, too, have stories to tell and--
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so those are our two main missions.
Generally people like to get their information by looking, and
that's why television has really made it difficult for newspapers to
survive in this economy and in this -- in this country. Even though
you get much more in-depth news in the newspaper, people still want
to get their three-minutes bites in -- in television.
Having said that, I'm going to show you a little five-minute film
right now. It's a kaleidoscope of some of the films and programs that
we produced. Most of them were produced this summer, but all of
them were produced in the last year. So if-- Jay, if you'll turn this
up, you will see all of these programs were done by our staff.
(CCTV, CH11 award-winning program was played on TV
screen.)
MS. MERRITT: Well, as you could see, we have showcased a
lot of the departments within government. We do quality work. We
have a very unusually good professional staff. I want to introduce
them to you right now. They're -- we have a small staff. It is
remarkable what we do on the television end with basically 2 1/2
people.
But let me introduce to you our print coordinator, Debbie White.
This is Debbie. She does all of our print work, and I'll go over that in
just a couple of minutes. And our television coordinator everybody
knows is Kady. Kady is responsible for all of the meetings.
Government television has as its goal the -- the motto that we have
adopted, bringing government home. That is exactly what we try to
do. And we believe that people should be able to participate in their
government even if they are not able to come to the meetings. And
we know for a fact that we are reaching homes, and we are reaching
people.
And if you've looked at the last survey, you will see that the --
there were 3 questions that were dedicated to Channel 54, and we
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were very pleased to see that more than half of the people said they
did watch the meetings on government access television. So Kady is
in charge of all that.
We have a good control room. I know you-all have seen it. It's
a modestly priced control room. Even though $250,000 seems like a
lot of money, in the television end, it's not. It's very modest, but it
does do a good job for us.
Jay Seidl, who is our professional videographer, editor, has done
it all. He's worked in commercial television. Jay, stand up. You--
Jay doesn't need any introduction because his face is seen a lot.
He's now doing our little morning minute that we have "Good
Morning, Collier County." I hope you've seen it. It's a very short
presentation, but it's kind of a nice way to start the day.
And then we have our other videographer, editor who is new.
His name is David Wells. Unfortunately, he's across the hall running
the system because we are live, so he'll be over here in a minute when
Kady goes over there to relieve him. And my assistant, Barbara
Pedone, who -- who keeps me straight, Barb, and our clerical --
professional/clerical, I should say, because she's professional as well
as being clerical and does all the dubbing for us. You would be
surprised how many -- in fact, we made almost $10,000 last year in
selling tapes for people who wanted copies of the meetings. So that's
Helene LeCompte.
And then our graphic artist -- we're so pleased to have added her
to our staff because she's done all kinds of work, including designing
the new government logo and -- and works for a lot of departments.
And that's Lavah Hetzel over here.
The reason she's standing over here is because you have a book
in front of you, and the people at home can't see that book. So we're
putting the pages on the visualizer so they can see what we are doing.
I have -- I apologize that the pages weren't numbered, but we put
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this book together in sections. That was really impossible for us to
do, so we have tabbed your books. We are not going to go through
this page by page. I'm sure you're very happy about that. But I do
want to draw your attention to a certain number of pages. So if you
will look at -- at No. 2 -- I do also want to tell you that we have won
some -- we won two national awards, one from the National
Association of Counties and one from -- which is called the Tele
Award. And we're very, very proud of that award because we
competed with things like the Disney Corporation and -- and some
other places like that. So if you happen to walk into our department,
you will see a little display case where we -- and I guarantee you, we
will be adding some more awards.
As a matter of fact, the Collier County department of public
information is being considered as one of the top public information
vehicles in the state of Florida as far as the counties are concerned.
So we're -- we're very proud of that, particularly since, if you will
pay -- turn to page 3, you will see that this is a very, very new
department. There has been a public information effort for some
time, but it has not been a concerted effort. And only in 1998 was
this office really upgraded into a department.
And this occurred because the county management believed that
the dissemination of public information was critical and should be
given more attention. And, as I earlier said but I think it bears
repeating, that we have two major missions. One is to inform the
public and to deal with the media and to attempt to get our story, the
county's story and the department's stories, out into the public.
Unfortunately, as you well know, newspapers tend to dwell on
the negative and the things that they believe that will sell newspapers.
And we have a myriad of wonderful things happening in this
government that need to be brought to the attention of the public.
And on that score, we do attempt to deal with other departments.
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This has been difficult because, as I said, we're a new department,
and some departments have their own efforts. And we have tried to
serve as a clearing house, but that has -- that has met -- met with
some mixed results, but we are making progress in that area.
On the next page, still in Section 3, I have given you a very brief
overview of our budget. I'm sure you're quite aware but I want to
bring to your attention a couple of things. Our -- our department
budget is $767,000, which includes $480,000 for personnel and
$261,000 for operating costs.
Almost half of this appropriation comes from Fund 11 -- 111,
which holds the cable franchise fee. So cable franchise fees pays for
47.5 percent of our budget. It is important to note that of the
$261,000 operating funds, 40,000 of the operating costs are spent for
the printing of the agendas and legal advertising.
And then costs for printing the agenda in the Naples Daily News
is extremely expensive. It averages $6500 a month or approximately
sixty-five to seventy thousand dollars a year. And I think you ought
to be aware of how much that is costing us, particularly when the
appropriation for that line item was -- was $36,000. So --
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Question -- question while
we're here.
MS. MERRITT: Yes.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: While we're in the cost-cutting
mode, you know that -- that agenda is something that we're trying to
bring information to the public. It's not something that is required.
Before we used to print a summary agenda -- or stating when the
meeting was going to be, and I don't know if it's -- some of the board
members, if they're desiring to go back to that and try to get them to
get on line --
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I agree with you, Commissioner. I
couldn't agree with you more. It does not meet the needs of District
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5. In fact, I think our efforts being -- spending so much money and
effort to put it in the Naples Daily News has caused the rest of the
county to fall behind the -- what? We're paying thirty-some thousand
dollars a year is it?
MS. MERRITT: We project 65,000.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I think it's a wonderful idea to -- to
run something. It used to be run at no cost, I know, in the distant
past. However, I think there are a lot of places that we can pick up
the slack. I do think maybe we need to run a brief summary of the
agenda, possibly--
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, that's what we're doing.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Well, no. I know, but the size of it is
unbelievable. I -- I just question -- I don't see a benefit to where I
am.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Excuse me, Commissioner, if I
might, because I've been through this, and I remember when this was
a line item, and we went to the Naples Daily News, and we talked to
Corbin Wyatt. He gave us the thirty-six two for that line item, and
now we're getting sixty-five thousand. MS. MERRITT: Right.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I really have some serious
questions about that and what happened. I mean, after all, a paper--
on the amount of revenue that this newspaper in this town generates,
what is their commitment to public service to either, A, go back to
the original agreement or to print it in -- in such a way -- I mean, I
find it disturbing, because if we can't do that, then I think we've got to
find other ways to do it, because I'd rather be spending $65,000 on a
lot of other ways to communicate than I would by printing an agenda
in the newspaper.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Think about this for just a second. If
we had the agenda put together in the form of a memo or whatever as
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an attachment, we could come up with a mailing that could cover
thousands and thousands of people with the push of a button.
MR. OLLIFF: You do -- you do have some legal requirements
to publish a notice of the meeting in a newspaper of general
circulation is, I believe, the way the statute reads. But if the board
would be interested in seeing some options in that regard, we'd be
happy to be able to develop those and bring those back to you for
your consideration.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: I think Commissioner Carter
made some great remarks on an agreement.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I thought -- thank you. My thought
was, instead of publishing it in the Naples Daily News, just publish
something to say that they could find the agenda either on the
computer or on the television and what days and what time.
MS. MERRITT: We already do that, Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But then -- you know, most people
who don't take the newspaper can either access through a computer or
through a television. Everybody has television in their house, if not
more than one.
MS. MERRITT: I -- we do -- we do put the agenda on Channel
11. We start on -- as soon as we get the agenda on Thursday, we -- it
starts on Thursday evening. It goes Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
Monday and at -- and at published times. We run this notice
(indicating) as well in the newspaper. We also make sure that all
libraries, public libraries, have copies of the agenda and -- and we
know for a fact that occurs.
So I -- I just wanted to bring that to your attention. And -- and,
like Tom says, if you'd like for us to look at some other alternatives,
we'd be happy to do that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, as Commissioner Carter
brought up, if the agreement isn't in place anymore that we originally
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negotiated and, as Tom said, we must at least publicize it, that to me
tells everybody in a lot less cost manner where to find the agenda.
And-- and the two -- the two points of access everyone has. If they
don't have one, they have the other.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: And I agree with you. And if I may,
please, this absolutely has to appear in the Immokalee Bulletin and
the Echo. I mean, these people are deprived of this information.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: See, and she can publish that in the
Echo --
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Exactly. Satisfying some--.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- or The Bulletin.
MS. MERRITT: See, that is one of the problems, because those
are weeklies, and the deadline for getting anything published is --
does not fit with when we get the agenda.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: But the general notice could be the
week before.
MS. MERRITT: The general notice could be put in it.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: That would suffice with giving them
notice that we do care about them. And that was a big complaint, as
you know, at the meeting last night in Immokalee was the -- a lack of
interreaction between the government and the residents in that area.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Do we have this on -- on computer,
the agenda on the computer?
MR. OLLIFF: Yes.
MS. MERRITT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So, in other words, the
Immokaleeans who cannot get it on Channel 1 1 or whatever channel
and they don't buy the Naples Daily News, the same with the
Everglades people, they can get it on the computer.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: That's correct. But still I would like
to see them made available -- this made available to them also --.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Sure.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: -- so that they're aware of it --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Sure.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: -- because not all of them have
computers.
MS. MERRITT: Okay. Moving along, would you turn to Tab
4, please. That's the print media. These are the things that we do
now, and that's really what I'm doing, going over the -- our present
programs and what we are now doing. As you know, we publish an
annual report. We expect that within the next two weeks. I think
you're going to be very, very happy with it.
We also do a year of progress annual newspaper insert. Last
year it appeared in about the second or third week in March. We
plan -- it will go in March 15th or 16th of this year. Last year it is
estimated we reached 90,000 homes with that insert. And that's
proved to be a very popular thing.
We also have the Collier County Journal, which I'm sure or at
least hope you have seen. Debbie's done a very good job with that.
We've dressed it up. We've made it more user friendly. We've tried
to -- excuse me -- enlist the help of-- of our divisions so that
everybody can get their specific news in there.
We have a department web page. I'm sorry. I am suffering a
little bit today from laryngitis.
We are redoing the brochure. It's in their packet -- I think it's in
the front right here in the sleeve. You will see that. You can pull it
out, Commissioner Coyle. It does have your picture in it.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Oh, no.
MS. MERRITT: It's not out yet because we had to wait until we
knew who the chairman and the vice chairman was. So it's at the
printers presently. And we use that a great deal. We will send some
up to you for your own use, of course.
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We -- the department disseminates good-news items. We try to
let not only you know about what's going on but let the public know.
We also publish an interpreter's guide. Incidentally, there are
examples of all of these things in your books you can look at later. It
is amazing. You will be shocked if you look at that interpreter's
guide to see how many county employees can speak other languages.
I think there's something like 60, I believe. It's really quite amazing.
News releases, we do most of the news releases for the -- for the
county, not all of them. Some departments still do their own, but
most of them do come through us now or a great many of them do.
And Debbie's charged with that. I would say on an average day we
do three or four news releases. Some days we do a great many more
than that, and a lot of times we will have four and five o'clock
deadlines that -- that we have to meet.
We have our graphics arts services, and Lavah's done a
wonderful job with that. We from time to time send articles to the
national -- to national publications. In April of this month (sic)
Collier County will be showcased in the Florida Association of
Counties' magazine, Florida Counties. We are preparing that. We
were asked to do that by the Florida Association of Counties. We're
pleased to do that.
The new resident packet that we have back here, it -- it gives a
brief synopsis of what the different divisions do. That's being
disseminated in various places, including the Chamber of Commerce
and other places within the community. And then we do a great
many other routine activities.
On Tab 5 are our television efforts. As you know, we have been
moved down to -- on the television spectrum to Channel 11 by
Comcast from 54. And I made a phone call to Marco Island Cable,
and they also moved their Channel 54 down to Channel 11. And we
were not quite as successful with Time Warner. But they are moving
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us to a Channel 16. Frankly, Time Warner has been out of
compliance because the government access television station must be
put on the basic tier of offerings to anybody.
Let me explain, please, the difference between government and
public television. The FCC says that when you no -- renegotiate or
negotiate a contract with the cable company, because, as you know,
they must get a franchise agreement with the municipality or the
government entity that they're dealing with, permission to use the
rights-of-ways and permission to televise. So the FCC has deemed
that they must provide stations for government access. They are
called PEG stations. P stands for public; E stands for education; and
G stands for government. It doesn't mean you have to have all of
those. It means that there have to be some channels set aside for
those activities if the municipality or the government entity desires to
have that.
Several years ago when we negotiated the contract, the
commission decided that we would not entertain public entertain --
television. Public television basically adheres to the Constitution and
says that people can say or do whatever they want. And if you have
been to New York City or even Tampa and seen their public
television efforts, you will understand why the commission, in its
wisdom, decided that Collier County probably didn't to want
participate in that.
We have been very, very careful about who we allow on our
government channel. It -- it's very, very easy to open the door up,
and so we do not allow nongovernment bodies or entities to televise
on our station. It is strictly a government access television.
Now, as you know, we negotiated for two channels, and we
turned one channel over to the education system. And in order to
make sure that that happened, that language was placed in the
franchise agreement so that there would be no future possibilities of
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that channel being used as a public television station. So in our
franchise agreement, it doesn't say PEG; it says EGG. And so I did
want to make that distinction, because I know that at times we get
requests from different organizations to either publicize their events
or even televise their events, and we -- we do turn those requests
away.
We have some very -- Collier 2002, it -- it was 2001 when you
saw it, but it's now 2002. That's our most professionally done
program. It's done in conjunction with a professional company. All
of the news and all of the -- the content is controlled by us. The
script is done by us. And, of course, as you know, Jay hosts that.
Social Securi _ty and Other Good Things is our most popular
show. Given the demographics of this area, it's probably not a
surprise. But it is hosted by Jack Fordham who is the regional
director of social security; very, very knowledgeable, very
personable. Does a wonderful job.
We do On the Job, which is a program in conjunction with the
North Naples Fire Department. We do a program called EMS Today
with our own EMS department and our new effort, Good Morning,
Collier County.
As I mentioned, that we duplicate tapes. We also do election
coverage. And our election coverage has been unique in that we have
a direct fiber to the supervisor of elections' office. As soon as she
gets them, we get them. We have them before the commercial
television stations do. We are working to improve the format
because it was hard to read. It came right off and -- but it was --
people were -- were standing around in this room around the
television watching it because it is up to date.
We have waited to upgrade that until the new technology has
come, and we're beginning those efforts right now, and we will be
doing that.
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We have various production activities. We've talked about that.
Our number-one mission is to cover the meetings and to -- we
tape most all of them and replay it because not everybody can watch
them live and people who work. And it is absolutely amazing. If
something goes wrong with our audio, we have 40, 50 calls, so we
know people are watching. We also get complaints too, you know,
we can't hear or something like that.
MR. OCHS: Jean, excuse me. We want to keep moving
because I think a couple of commissioners are going to have to leave.
MS. MERRITT: I'll do that. Thank you, Leo. You have to
keep telling me.
On -- on No. 6, I do want to pull -- just point out one thing. This
is our bulletin board that goes on the television. And on one
particular day I asked Kady to list what's on there. It was on
November 16th. These are everything that was on that day. That is
another way people get a lot of information, and we update that
every -- every day or so.
Our summer shows, No. 7, we've gone over some of them. We
are continuing our relationship with Florida Gulf Coast University to
use their studios that are to die for, believe me. And next week we
are filming two more shows. One is on security and the new security
techniques that we have use -- that we are using in the county. And
the other one is on the RSVP Program, the very popular program.
We also -- I want to point out on page -- on -- on Tab 8,
additional strategies that we're working for, probably our most visible
thing that we do in the public is held on April 21st and 22nd. Those
are our government -- county government days that we in the last
couple of years have held in the Coastland Mall. They've been very,
very successful, and we intend to do the same.
We support during a local emergency. I've become the public
information officer under the emergency support function of 14. And
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our staff is available 24 hours, if-- if necessary.
We -- we distribute the agenda, and we take care of all the
billing for the agenda, for the different companies and corporations
that have ordered the agendas.
We have a speaker's bureau. We handle the on-hold telephone
recording system. We have a newspaper clipping service. You
should be getting copies of those. And, of course, we have media
liaison activities. I interact with the press a great deal. I've worked
very hard to get good relationships, and the press will call me for
information and ask me who -- who to go to to -- and it -- it's not
necessarily an easy thing, but I have found that if you are honest and
up front with the press most of the time, not always, most of the time
they will be up front and honest with you.
We are getting e-mail requests from the public now that we are
treating just like telephone calls. They go out to the front desk as
soon as we get them, and they're handled that way, and it's -- it's
really a very good thing.
The new projects at Tab 10, we would like very much to do a
survey. However, we probably will just have more questions in the
county survey that's done by -- in conjunction with the League of
Women Voters and Chuck Mohlke. So probably we'll -- we'll do
that.
We are looking to start a children's show on Saturday morning --
we hope to get that off the ground -- in conjunction with the library.
It will be done and held at the library, and we hope to have that going
in the fall.
One of the most exciting things -- and I really do want to get to
this -- is that the government access -- state government access
station is called for-- the Florida Channel. It's out of Tallahassee.
And we are getting the equipment so that we can now cover -- we can
carry the Florida legislature. And we will be doing that -- we hope to
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be able to have this accomplished so that we'll be able to cover some
of the legislative hearings and legislature meetings themselves during
this session.
For a modest cost -- we have worked with the State Department
of Education for a modest cost of $3,000, which is in my budget, so
I'm not asking for it. We will be able to hook into the Florida
Channel.
The State Department of Education would have paid for that had
we agreed to carry all of it. But, of course, we cannot do that. But
we will be the only station in Southwest Florida carrying any of the
legislature. And we're very, very pleased about that. We think that's
a very good public service.
The Immokalee connection, we've been working very hard on
that, Commissioner Coletta. I know that is near and dear to your
heart. As I know you heard earlier from Jo-Ann that there are some
strides being made that in effort. Hopefully my recommenda -- my
recommendation is that in the interim we do go to a microwave
because I think that it probably will be the quickest and the best way
to go.
We -- we have included -- because I'm very proud of my staff,
we have included biographies, bios of them. And when you get a
chance, I hope you'll have a chance to -- to take a look at it. It --
there are so many other things that we could do, but we work very
hard to -- to make a credible department. We think we have
succeeded somewhat, and we definitely would like to hear from you,
if not today, what some of your ideas and things are that you think we
ought to be doing.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Well, I personally think you're doing
an absolutely wonderful job. I mean, you rate right up there with the
libraries as far as public acceptance and -- Commissioner Henning?
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN COLETTA: You cleared your voice for a second
there, so I assume you wished to speak.
VICE CHAIRMAN HENNING: Well, I was doing two things:
I was clearing my voice, and I did want to speak.
I don't know if the board is interested in something similar that
the sheriff's department has. They have a public information person
that is the spokesman for that department, and I don't know if-- I
mean, I think it's a good thing that -- that we can do, and it's not
something -- I'm not trying to say stifle the commissioners. We just
have so many activities going on, and I know that so many different
things in different departments, they come to the Board of
Commissioners, and we're out there seeking information all over.
And I don't know if it was a desire there to have a point person.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Commissioner Carter.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I real track with you,
Commissioner Henning. I had made a note. One of my major
concerns is we often get caught off guard and respond to situations,
and we begin to look negative to the community. We don't intend to
do that, but it happens. And I made a note that I would really like to
see us expand and work in that area for public information officer.
We need an executive and orientation on how to handle the press and
media. We really need to all get better at this so that no one is ever
compelled to answer a question when you're asked by the media.
You can take time to answer that. You can get the right information.
And if we all work together on that, it gives us -- it's image, and it
gives better information.
So I would heartily support doing a public information officer
that works with all of us and body politic and with professional staff
because sometimes I think things get in the paper from professional
staff that "I can't believe they ever said that." And then I find out I
didn't say that, and I'm saying -- let's find out how we do this so that
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if there's an issue, like we have one currently, we can go and say,
"Hey, we want a retraction on this because we gave it to you in
writing. This is what it said, and you printed it differently." I think
you have to be held accountable for that.
But if you don't do it right, you never have a chance to -- to get
to that point. I think it's absolutely a hundred percent kind of thing
we ought to be doing.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I think basically what we're saying is
be weary of quick-draw comments to a reporter that calls up and
says, "This guy just fell on Chicken Little. What do you have to say
about that?" I agree with you. I'd just plainly say, "I don't know
about it at this point in time." A public information officer, they
could disseminate that information to us in a timely basis.
Of course, we always seem to be the last to know. If you want
to know what's going on in the county real quick, call Judy
downstairs or get ahold of Dennis Husty. They'll tell you what's
going on.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: One of the things -- maybe the
tie to Commissioner Henning is -- one of the things that came out in
the information technology section, a uniform look, and that is, what
do you want to look like in Collier County? We have -- you know,
whether it's reviewing of IT or public relations or tourist
development, we've got some great pieces. But how do you really
identify this is Collier County?
And we don't have a theme. And I would like to see us in that --
have some visioning group that would sit down and look at that and
say, "Here's everything we want to be. How do we make that
happen" so that we don't take all of these pieces which are wonderful.
Everybody says, "Well, that's nice, but how does that tie to this?" So
I would like to tag with that and -- and ask that we might begin to
look for a uniform look, revisioning process, however you want --
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CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I was just going suggest we might
want to consider bringing it back as a workshop with a visioning
process.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: Or you get some interested
people in the community from the various entities here, reach out and
say, "What do you think we should look like?" from our -- you know,
from our tourism industry, from our -- from everything that we do
here and say, let's get these collective people together and -- and
process it. And Jean would probably be a likely person to pull these
people together and say, "Let's talk." So I don't know. Whatever the
board wants to do, that's -- that's a suggestion I would make.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Commissioner Coyle, do you want to
add anything to that?
COMMISSIONER COYLE:
said.
your
No. I think everything has been
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Nothing, except you do great work,
whole department.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: They're wonderful. Thank you.
MR. OLLIFF: Just in closing, Mr. Chairman, I just -- I want to
-- one of the highlights that I wanted to get across was I think you
have a fairly small compact PIO department. And I think if you look
at the production of work and the number of things that they are
involved with and are responsible for, they are producing a great deal
of what I think is first-class public information and in a number of
different medias. And they're responsible for it. They keep it
current. They do a great job.
But the point that we were trying to make to you is I -- I think
you're getting about all you're going to get out of this PIO
department. I mean, we are running on all cylinders there. And there
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continues to be, I think, some desire on -- on the part of the board,
and perhaps collectively you need to think about do you want to take
another step forward? And if you do, I guess my suggestion to you is
to consider that -- that it is going to take an enhancement of the
resource level that is currently there if you want to take that next step
or do some additional type outreaches into the community. And you
simply need to decide whether we want to restructure what we're
currently doing with the resources that we have, or do you wanted to
expand and do some -- some larger, more intensive type things. And
we'll have some options for you to consider as we go through the
budget process this summer.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: I'd like to see the options.
MR. OLLIFF: Yup.
COMMISSIONER CARTER: I certainly would too, Chairman
Coletta. And I would like to incorporate that in -- into a visioning
process. Personally I would like to go to the next level. We are a
three-quarter-of-a-billion-dollar-a-year corporation, and we better do
it right. And for what it is costing us -- I mean, this is, like, you
know, almost half of it's paying out of a franchise fee and what
they're able to accomplish -- this is the best bargain we have. I think
we better invest in a piece that we have, I think, in my opinion,
neglected for too long.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: If there is no other comments ...
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Good job.
MS. LEAMER: Thank you, Commissioners.
CHAIRMAN COLETTA: And this meeting is adjourned.
There being no further business for the good of the County, the
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meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 12:06 p.m.
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