PARAB Minutes 06/22/1994 R Parks & Recreation
Advisory Board
( PARAB)
Minutes
June 22 , 1994
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES - June 22, 1994
Parks & Recreation Administration Building
3300 Santa Barbara Boulevard
Naples, Florida 33999
PRESENT: Mr. Joseph Zaks, Chairman
Ms. Darlene Koontz, Vice Chairperson
Mr. Max A. Hasse, Jr.
Mr. Gil Mueller
Mr. Bruce Pray
Mr. Timothy Blackford
Mr. Steven Klee
ALSO PRESENT: Donna Fiala, East Naples Civic Association
Mark Bahr, Marco Island Beach Vendor
Anthony Smith, RFA, Beach Vendor
Charles Huttinger, Beach Renourishment Committee
Adrienne Skolnik, Naples Rowing Association
Roger Dykstra, President of Naples Rowing Association
Jack O'Brien, Marco Eagle News
Michelle Worobec, Marco Bureau Chief
Mr. Robert Wiley, Office of Capital Projects Management
Mr. Steve Brinkman, Parks & Recreation Director
Mr. Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent
Mr. Steve Peffers, Recreation Supervisor
Ms. Jacquie Minnis, Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES, May 25, 1994 meeting
Motioned by Max Hasse, seconded by Tim Blackford. Approved.
IV. REQUESTS FOR DISCUSSION - SPECIFIC UPDATE ITEMS
V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS
A. East Naples Civic Association - Ms. Donna Fiala, representing the
East Naples Civic Association, spoke about three major concerns at
the East Naples Community Park - landscaping, irrigation and
maintenance. The Association has no money but does have people who
are willing to help. Ms. Fiala reported that at the present time
negotiations are going on with the School Board to provide land
adjacent to Lely High School, outside the school area, for a tot
lot. The Community Foundation also has money available that could
be used for picnic tables and a chickee hut. The Habitat for
Humanity may also have land available for a small park suitable for
picnic tables and grills.
B. Beach Vendors - It was noted that the newspaper article stating
vendor fees were being increased from $250 to $2,500 was incorrect.
Fourteen vendors would be affected by an increase for beach vendor
permits. The proposed increase would finance the Park Ranger on
Marco Island currently being paid for by the Marco Island Beach
Nourishment Committee. Beach vendor annual permits are $250.
These permits are for vendors who operate on private, not County,
property and have contracts with the hotel, condominium, or owner of
the property. This vendor fee is the only money paid to the County.
On County owned property, concessionaires have a contract with the
County and remit a percentage of gross receipts.
Several vendors spoke. The rangers were commended for doing a good
job, but they have no authority to enforce code violations. It
appears that one vendor repeatedly violates the regulations and is
causing problems for the remainder vendors. The beach needs
cleaning in his area and the passage way is blocked which may
present a problem for emergency vehicles on the beach. A suggestion
was made that the rangers be given empowerment to fine violators and
the fines could be used to subsidize the ranger's salary. A vendor
from Vanderbilt Beach stated that no Ranger was stationed full time
in that area so it would not be fair for his fee to subsidize a
ranger on Marco.
The Sheriff's Department, using a scooter, is very visible during
the winter months on Marco beaches. However, the only time they
should be on the beach is in case of emergency. The suggestion was
made that the offending vendor be notified that PARAB is looking at
this issue very seriously. PARAB will review this Ordinance and if
it needs some teeth will put some in it. MOTION by Gil Mueller:
Review beach ordinance relating to vendors, fees at next meeting and
enforcement thereof, preliminary warnings relating to enforcement.
Seconded by Tim Blackford.
Gary Franco stated that this Beach Ordinance issue is scheduled to
go before BCC next Tuesday. Harry Huber has done an Executive
Summary recommending doing away with the park ranger and putting a
code enforcement office on Marco. The current Ordinance in effect
emphasizes voluntary enforcement. Mr. Huttinger suggested that the
park ranger should do it with code enforcement. Then if that gets
no result go to the sheriff.
Suggestion was made to vendors - Plan to attend BCC meeting or call
your Commissioner. To change an Ordinance requires a public hearing
but pick someone and send a person to the meeting on Tuesday.
MOTION by Mr. Zaks - Someone is paying for a park ranger -
recommend to BCC no action for raising vendor fees until PARAB has a
chance to study fees and services provided. No funding for Ranger.
Seconded by Mr. Hasse.
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C. Naples Rowing Association - represented by Roger Dykstra and Adrienne
Skolnik. Mr. Dykstra would like to see local high schools start a small
rowing program now to act as a feeder for 10th University. Rowing
scholarships are offered at major universities in the State as well as
Ivy League schools. The advantages and benefits of rowing were stated.
This Association was formed in May last year with 28 members who paid a
$10 fee.
The Association is suggesting that Cocohatchee River Park would be
suited for this type of sport as a 1 to 1 1/2 mile stretch of non-salt
water is needed. They would also need a storage area approximately 25 x
30 for these steel or plastic boats. (VCR Tape for presentation did not
function and could not be shown. ) More information will be gathered and
a proposal brought back to PARAB at a future date.
D. Storage of boats at Lely Barefoot Beach. A letter has been received
regarding storage of boats at Lely Barefoot Beach; no one present for
presentation. Motion by Mr. Hasse: Not to consider this. Seconded by
Tim Blackford.
VI. REPORTS/UPDATES
East Naples Community Park - the permitting for the ballfield is in
process and Wilson Miller has been designated to do the design
construction for a regulation size baseball field plus a softball field
if there is enough room. Irrigation will be supplied.
The Immokalee Recreation Center/Pool project will be coming before the
BCC again next Tuesday. The original proposal was not approved and
staff was requested to come back with various options. The subject of
possibly rebidding this project was raised. Purchasing Department will
be contacted as to the necessity of this. There will be concerned
citizens and people in favor of the pool and center attending the BCC
meeting Tuesday. It was pointed out that the Executive Summary first
appearing before the Board was changed after PARAB had made their
recommendation, and the verbiage was not the direct expression of PARAB.
MOTION by Bruce Pray that an Executive Summary should not be changed
after PARAB's approval. Seconded by Mr. Hasse.
A suggestion was made to send a special Executive Summary to the BCC
reflecting PARAB's desires for the recreation center/pool. This project
has been in the Growth Management Plan and was requested by the
Immokalee population as one of their first preferences. At that time
the pool for Golden Gate was to be an Olympic size, a three million
dollar project. Due to the land swap in Immokalee with the School Board
the Immokalee pool project was delayed and the decision made to proceed
with a smaller size pool in Golden Gate. The Immokalee project has been
planned for sometime and last year at Budget time was approved in
detail. The new Executive Summary has eight different options and
combinations concerning this project that BCC may choose.
Minutes of PARAB are to be done in summary form unless a definite
request is made for detail.
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Bruce Pray requested that a plaque be presented to Belafonte Rosier
(Jamie) of Immokalee for all the successful programs he has worked on
for the Immokalee youth. A decision was made to forego a plaque and
recognize him by Resolution.
56 Acre Site - Robert Wiley displayed and explained a preliminary design
for this 56 acre site. This design will also be presented to Avatar on
Monday night for impute and then a more formal plan will be developed.
This park will be the second section (north side) of the Estates
Community Park. The first section or south side is now being developed
adjacent to Big Cypress School. The lake is about 15 acres on this
plan, but can be of any size. A firm would like to purchase fill from
this area, and a portion of fill would be left for use in the park. The
natural area would be approximately 10 to 12 acres. Having the access
on the north side would give better sight distance. The lake could be
constructed starting in the next twelve months, but park development
would begin 1998 or 1999. This will not be built before the East/South
Naples park.
The Big Cypress preliminary design should be ready for next PARAB
meeting. Community park impact fee money is available, and the cost
will probably be two to two and a half million dollars.
Fee Policy - Proposed changes - Discussion will be postponed until Murdo
returns next Board meeting. Mr. Zaks had several comments regarding
combining some of the information.
Report of summer camp program - will be presented next meeting.
Strategic Planning/Growth Management - Mr. Brinkman requested members
review this packet and be prepared to discuss it at the next meeting.
Page 1 indicates what is budgeted for the Growth Management Plan,
Community Park #9 would be done after So. Naples and the Estates,
probably 1998/99 FY. Page 2 presents an idea what Collier County will
look like when it builds out. The Planning Dept. defined the districts
which are different than the Commission Districts. Page 3 are items we
need to get consensus on in the next few months regarding possible
changes. Next page suggests listing "community park facility" ,
including all the specific items now listed separately, changing some of
the existing standards and the proposed standards. We also need to
define what we wish to have in Regional park areas. The Plan does not
address beach parking, we should consider what standard to adopt for
beach parks and beach parking. Currently there are no impact fees for
this. These are a few items that need to be reviewed.
Mr. Zaks stated that we also need to review the source of funding and
ways to generate revenue. He also has some suggestions to reduce costs.
Mr. Zaks will prepare the special Executive Summary tomorrow regarding
the Immokalee Recreation/Pool. If anyone wishes a copy, call him and he
Fax a copy.
Motioned to adjourn at 5:05 by Mr. Hasse. Seconded by Mr. Mueller.
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