Minutes 09/22/2013 R Parks & Recreation
Advisory Board
( PARAB )
Minutes
September 22 , 1993
MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
FRANK E. MACKLE, JR. COMMUNITY PARK
Naples, Florida
September 22, 1993
PRESENT: Mr. Timothy Blackford, Chairman
Mr. Joseph Zaks
Ms. Darlene Koontz
Mr. Vin DePasquale
ABSENT: Ms. Geneva Till
ALSO PRESENT: Mr. Steve Brinkman, Parks & Recreation Director
Mr. Murdo Smith, Parks and Recreation Operations Manager
Mr. Gary Franco, Parks Superintendent
Mr. James Thomas, Athletic Supervisor
Mr. Frank Blanchard
Mr. Gil Mueller
Ms. Kathy Gorman
Mr. Doug Meiser
Ms. Barbara Johnson, Secretary
I. Call to Order - 2:05 pm
II. Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag
III. Minutes of August 25, 1993 meeting approved. Motion by Mr. DePasquale
and seconded by Ms. Koontz.
IV. Requests for Discussion - Specific Update Items:
Decision made to go directly to presentations.
V. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS
Ms. Kathy Gorman - Play park for children on Marco Island - Ms. Gorman
stated that the average age of residents has become younger within the
last few years and that a playground is needed for the children. Ms.
Gorman had done some research and was interested in structures designed
by Leathers & Associates, Inc. , who design play structures for children
of various ages. These playgrounds allow children to use their
imaginations and consist of a variety of things - from castles to forts
to dinosaurs, as well as swings, slides, etc. This program is a
community effort which begins with providing the site, raising the money
for the design and materials, and ends with the actual assembling of
the structure. After the site has been chosen and committees formed,
Leathers schedules a Design Day. The site is visited, children are
interviewed for their desires, and meetings are held. These playgrounds
and structures are wooden and only the best materials are used. When
the actual assembly is being done by volunteers, it is strictly
supervised. Various possible locations were discussed e.g. Leigh
Plummer Park, Caxambas, Frank E. Mackle, Jr. Community Park, Tigertail
Beach, and Tommie Barfield School. Parking would also have to be
considered. After discussion, it was decided that the School would
probably be the most central location, parking would be available, and
the playground would be more heavily used on weekends and times when
school was not in session. If the School Board agreed to the use of the
property and the community raised the money, the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Board would support the project.
VI. REPORTS/UPDATES
A. Tigertail Beach - Mr. Frank Blanchard, representing the Marco Island
Beach Renourishment Committee gave an update on this committee and
the status of Sand Dollar Island. There is some concern about the
areas roped off by the Game Commission for bird protection; the area
seems to be infringing on the public beach portion.
B. Vineyards - It is still being determined whether the name will
change for the Vineyards Community Park.
C. Pelican Bay Park Site - Pelican Bay has indicated they do not want
to name the park on Vanderbilt Beach Road and the County may choose
the name. Mr. Murdo Smith displayed a map showing the design plans
for this 15 acre park. At the present time the eight tennis courts
will be clay, there will be restrooms, two racquetball courts, play
area, sand volley ball courts, and a combination softball/football/
soccer field. There will be a walk way around the park which will
be buffered around the perimeter. Approximately 60 parking spaces
will be available. The County has $250,000 to light the courts and
play area, and for the purchase of a play structure. The ballfield
will not be lighted. Construction will take approximately four
months after all the permitting is in place, with the park possibly
being completed in March. Westinghouse is doing everything except
the playground structure and the lighting.
Mr. Brinkman made the suggestion that everyone start thinking about
a name for this facility. There will be other Pelican Bay
neighborhood parks in the area.
The possibility of contracting the tennis courts was mentioned,
although there is minimum available space for a pro shop. The
decision on the type of tennis courts will be made within the next
30-60 days and will depend on the amount of dollars available to the
Department for maintenance. Clay court maintenance is much more
expensive than the hard surface courts.
D. Lake Trafford - Ms. Koontz had gone to Lake Trafford Labor Day
weekend and was surprised at the condition - litter and garbage.
This area is quite heavily used and a reference to the maintenance
man-hours revealed considerable maintenance time was spent at this
location. The area is very popular with the fisherman, but also
experiences a high degree of vandalism.
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E. Budget - The BCC will hold the final budget hearings this evening.
If any changes are made, PARAB members will be notified.
F. Growth Management - The representative from Growth Management was
unable to attend the meeting today. Mr. Brinkman distributed
literature indicating changes made to the Growth Management Plan
this year. The first was changing the facility cost from $122 to
$168 per capita. The old value per unit cost was established years
ago. With the increase in construction costs over the years, the
cost was modified. The unit value being used is derived from
figures being used for the construction of the Vineyards Community
Park. A Construction Cost Index has also been added. When the Plan
is reviewed next year and we feel that a 3% increase for
construction cost is applicable, the formula will not have to
change. If costs increase more, the per unit value will have to be
adjusted. The CCI is used to account for cost increases per year
in certain area of the Budget by the County.
The Standards were established back in 1989 and for Growth
Management purposes created standards that would be reachable over a
five year period. The ideal Standards that Collier County may wish
to establish may be different than the five year Standards.
National Standards that are long term - 15 or 20 years - would be
ideal standards. The National Parks and Recreation Association
establishes these standards as minimal; it is necessary to research
your own community and then adjust the Standards as established. If
two sets of Standards were established, one five year and one long
term, the Growth Management Standards would be reviewed yearly and
be adjusted. It is difficult in a five year period to modify the
five year plan without knowing what the ultimate long term goal is.
The long term plan would be updated every five years.
The various scenarios were discussed as standards were changed in
various ways.
At the present time, the collected impact fees are not paying for
all the new facilities. Items that are not being paid for are not
listed in the Plan e.g. lakes, sports center. There are two ways
this could be corrected, list each item separately or combine
everything that is in a community park cost in one figure.
City residents are included in the population figures as well as a
factor for the influx of seasonal visitors.
A representative from Growth Management will be at the next PARAB
meeting. Hopefully that meeting can be used as a springboard to
develop some new Standards and revise the current Standards with
something more realistic, also enabling the Department to receive
the proper amount of impact fees for construction.
G. Golden Gate Estates Park - Negotiating with Agnoli Barber & Brundage
and within the next two weeks will be asking the BCC to hire a firm.
By next meeting all the information regarding this will be
available.
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H. Golden Gate Estates Boat Ramp - A public meeting will be held
Tuesday, October 5, 7:00 pm at the Big Cypress School to discuss the
proposed project. The entire project will cost less than $250,000
as there will be boat ramps and parking only, no other amenities.
The Collier County Utilities Division owns the land and Parks and
Recreation will be leasing it from them.
I. Caxambas/Cocohatchee Concession - A selection committee is being
formed to review this RFP and Mr. Brinkman requested a member of
PARAB serve. Chairman Blackford will do the honors.
J. A work report is available for the work hours of the maintenance
crews. This report tabulates the time spent for various functions
at various locations.
K. Ordinance 93- O (Confirming PARAB)
A public hearing will be held on 9/28 at the Board of County
Commissioners meeting regarding this item.
Mr. Gil Mueller mentioned the trees planted at Tigertail Beach and requested a
note of thanks be sent to the gentleman who donated, planted, and cares for
these trees.
Next meeting will be held at East Naples Community Park on Thomasson Drive.
Notices will be sent to the media as usual.
MOTION TO ADJOURN AT 5 PM. Approved 4 to 0.
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