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BCC Minutes 09/10/2015 B (Budget) BCC BUDGET MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 10, 2015 September 10, 2015 TRANSCRIPT OF THE BUDGET MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS Naples, Florida, September 10, 2015 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 5:05 p.m. in BUDGET SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Tim Nance Donna Fiala (telephonic) Tom Henning Georgia Hiller Penny Taylor ALSO PRESENT: Leo E. Ochs, Jr., County Manager Nick Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager Jeffrey Klatzkow, County Attorney Mark Isackson, Director of Corporate Financial Planning Troy Miller, Communications & Customer Relations Page 1 COLLIER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PELICAN BAY BUDGET AGENDA Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:05 PM NOTICE: ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS MUST REGISTER PRIOR TO SPEAKING. ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ALL REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE (3) MINUTES UNLESS PERMISSION FOR ADDITIONAL TIME IS GRANTED BY THE CHAIRMAN. 1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 2. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING—Pelican Bay Services Division Budget Hearing: A. Executive Summary —Fiscal Year 2016 Pelican Bay Services Division Budget B. Public Comment C. Resolution Approving the Special Assessment Roll and Levying the Special Assessment against the Benefited Properties within the Pelican Bay Municipal Service Taxing and Benefit Unit. 3. ADJOURN Page 1 September 10,2015 COLLIER COUNTY Board of County Commissioners Community Redevelopment Agency Board (CRAB) Airport Authority . itIP • AGENDA Board of County Commission Chambers Collier County Government Center 3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3rd Floor Naples, FL 34112 BUDGET SESSION September 10, 2015 5:05 PM Commissioner Tim Nance, District 5—BCC Chair Commissioner Donna Fiala, District 1 —BCC Vice-Chair; CRA Chair Commissioner Georgia Hiller, District 2 — Community & Economic Dev. Chair Commissioner Tom Henning, District 3 — PSCC Vice-Chair Commissioner Penny Taylor, District 4— TDC Chair; CRA Vice-Chair NOTICE: ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS MUST REGISTER PRIOR TO SPEAKING. ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE (3) MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS ADJUSTED BY THE CHAIRMAN. Page 1 September 10,2015 IF YOU ARE A PERSON WITH A DISABILITY WHO NEEDS ANY ACCOMMODATION IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCEEDING, YOU ARE ENTITLED, AT NO COST TO YOU, THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN ASSISTANCE. PLEASE CONTACT THE COLLIER COUNTY FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT LOCATED AT 3335 EAST TAMIAMI TRAIL, SUITE 1, NAPLES, FLORIDA, 34112-5356, (239) 252-8380; ASSISTED LISTENING DEVICES FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED ARE AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' OFFICE. 1. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING - BCC - Fiscal Year 2016 Tentative Budget A. Discussion of Tentative Millage Rates and Increases Over the Rolled Back Millage Rates B. Review and Discussion of Changes to the Tentative Budget C. Public Comments and Questions D. Announcement of Tentative Millage Rates and Percentage Changes in Property Tax Rates E. Resolution to Adopt the Tentative Millage Rates F. Resolution to Adopt the Amended Tentative Budget G. Announcement of Final Public Hearing as Follows: Final Public Hearing on the FY 2014-15 Collier County Budget Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:05 PM Collier County Government Center W. Harmon Turner Building (F) Third Floor, Boardroom Naples, Florida 2. ADJOURN Page 2 September 10,2015 September 10, 2015 MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, you have a live mic. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to advertised public hearings today regarding the fiscal year 2016 Pelican Bay Services Division budget, to be followed by the fiscal year 2016 tentative budget for Collier County Commissioners. Let us begin by standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. (Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.) Item #1 MOTION ALLOWING COMMISSIONER FIALA TO PARTICIPATE VIA TELEPHONE — APPROVED CHAIRMAN NANCE: In order to help us have a smooth meeting, I would ask that all of you silence all electronic devices, cell phones and any other devices that might make unwanted noise, in order to help us have a smooth meeting. I believe the first order of business, sir, is to allow Commissioner Fiala to participate in our meeting because of special circumstances; is that correct? MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Is there a motion from the Board? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So moved. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So moved. CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye. Page 2 September 10, 2015 CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed? (No response.) CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, Commissioner Fiala. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Hello. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Good evening, ma'am, how are you? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Just wonderful. My book is here right in front of me and I'm watching you on television. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you very much. All citizens who wish to speak have to register with Mr. Miller before the start of the agenda item. I'd ask you to do that and indicate which items on which you wish to testify. At this time I'll ask Mr. Ochs to walk us through the agenda of the two advertised public hearings. MR. OCHS: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will turn the microphone over to Mr. Isackson, if you don't mind, to begin the formal presentation. MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, County Manager Ochs. Commissioners, your first item of business is the Pelican Bay Services Division public hearing. I'll ask Mr. Dorrill to approach the podium and begin the proceedings. Item #2A (On the Pelican Bay Services Division Budget Agenda) EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FISCAL YEAR 2016 PELICAN BAY SERVICES DIVISION BUDGET MR. DORRILL: Good evening, Commissioners, and thank you for the opportunity. As was the case earlier this summer during the workshop, I've got a quick executive summary overview of the budget here. I know there are some individuals who would like to speak as well, or I presume Page 3 September 10, 2015 that there are. This year's budget of$3.34 million is a -- as part of the assessment portion funds overall budget for the services division that consists this year of three primary funding sources, the largest of which is a non-ad valorem special assessment that has an increase associated with it. In accordance with Florida law, letters went out to all 7,000 plus individual units within the community, advising them of the associated costs pertaining to that assessment. The second source of funding is an ad valorem based millage that supports the street lighting program there, consistent with your policy. And then also this year for the first time we have been and received a cost center from the county's unincorporated general fund, Fund 111, to support certain costs associated with the Clam Pass system that is there. The overall assessment this year has increased by $7.51 per month, or $90 for the year. The majority of those costs, almost $80, pertain to non-ad valorem assessments that support our single largest cost center, our landscape and beautification cost center, followed closely by the water management cost center. You are responsible for the entire master drainage system within the community. And then we have a fairly small capital improvement fund that receives support, $52 per year, as part of the overall assessment of $670 for the year. Again, that breaks out to $90 by way of an increase for the coming year. And I can quickly touch on several expanded service requests that have resulted and are being recommended not only by the landscape and water management committees but also there is a budget and finance committee within the services division. And then the full board voted in a majority to forward the budget to you this evening. The expanded services are in a couple of areas. In particular they Page 4 September 10, 2015 include several vehicle replacements. They include four new employees. There's a new three-person grounds-keeping crew and the associated equipment for that new grounds-keeping crew following almost a year's worth of planning and analysis and an inventory of the number of square feet in areas that are maintained in the landscaping by the services division. There's also an associate or entry level project manager's position in recognition of additional responsibilities that we now have, not only for Clam Pass and maintenance dredging but beach renourishment, which you gave us responsibility for earlier in the prior year. And also some for the coming year smaller capital improvement type projects. But a total of four new positions, again that have all been approved by their respective committees as well as the full board. On the millage side, in the street lighting side, the millage rate stayed the same. But I can tell you, the aggregate assessed millage for the community is approaching an astounding $5,750,000,000. And so the millage necessary to fund the street lighting program is .0857 mills that will generate in the coming year $492,500. In part we're also capitalizing some of the funds necessary to replace what is an aging street lighting program and going with new architectural poles and LED kind of next generation street lighting that we will begin to fund and complete the design in the first quarter of the new fiscal year. So by way of a quick overview, those are the highlights for the coming year's budget. I should thank the various lay committee people and the advisory board that literally have invested hundreds if not a thousand man hours or more in committee meetings to present to you the budget. Following the County Commissioners' budget workshop, a resident had posed several questions near the end of the workshop afternoon, and we were directed, as part of your action items, to Page 5 September 10, 2015 prepare an on-point response to some of those questions. We did that and shared it not only with Commissioner Hiller but the County Manager as we were instructed to do. We had provided that in advance to the resi-- not the resident, but the citizen who had some concerns with some of the questions that he had. And we're prepared if necessary to address those this evening in addition to some other comments from people who may have elected to speak. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir, your lighting replacement program, sir, that's a multi-year program? MR. DORRILL: Yes, sir. And I think it is currently projected to be about a three-phase program. Very similar -- we had identified three phases to do similar work to renovate the medians, the landscape medians there, and we're currently at the end of Phase II, hope to begin Phase III next year. And the community is very comfortable with that and they have a phased approach to replacing the street lights. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Questions or comments from Commissioners? (No response.) CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala, any comments or questions, ma'am? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, there aren't. CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, thank you very much. MR. ISACKSON: Mr. Chairman, it would be appropriate at this point to take public comments on this particular item. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let us do that then. Mr. Miller? Item #2B (On the Pelican Bay Services Division Budget Agenda) PUBLIC COMMENT Page 6 September 10, 2015 MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, your first speaker on this topic is David Cook. He'll be followed by Dr. Joseph Doyle. MR. COOK: Thank you. Commissioners, good afternoon. My name is David Cook and I'm a resident of Pelican Bay and currently the chairman of the board of the Pelican Bay Foundation. The Pelican Bay Services Division plays a very important role in Pelican Bay, both to its landscaping and water management activities, as well as the other things they pursue. The projected budgets are supported by your staff and by the Pelican Bay Services Division board. But my role today is to let you know that these recommended budgets are recognized as necessary for these continued operations by many people in the community. I urge you to approve the proposed budgets. Thank you. MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Dr. Joseph Doyle. He's been ceded three additional minutes from Sandra Doyle for six minutes total. He will be followed by Dave Trecker. DR. DOYLE: Good evening, Commissioners. Dr. Joseph Doyle on behalf of my mother, Sandra Doyle, who is the property owner in Pelican Bay. And I -- as Mr. Dorrill explained, I was the citizen who attended the budget workshop and had follow-up comments to this budget. I sent you an email earlier today with a copy of that, as well as a cover letter just officially stating our objections to this current proposed preliminary assessment role of the estimated costs and capital reserve funds for fiscal year 2015 and '16. And part of the problem is, is that we didn't receive a copy of the August 7th memo until 20 days later, on August 27th. So basically it's still in progress. We haven't had a chance to meet with Commissioner Hiller. And we are requesting that in order to resolve the rest of our concerns, because we have some concerns with his response in the memo, that we would like to continue this to the second hearing of Page 7 September 10, 2015 June 24th (sic) before you take action on approving this resolution. And that's just -- I don't know why there was a 20-day delay, but we feel that that should not be a detriment to us. Anyway, once again I'm just going to reiterate what we said at the budget workshop which is that a 20 percent increase in the assessment is outrageous. We're going from $426 last year to $508 this year. And we agree with Mr. Cook that all of these things are necessary. It's just that they can be done at a less expensive rate. Do we really need to increase the assessment by $80? Maybe we only need to go $60. For instance, Mr. Dorrill is talking about the replacement of the vehicles. You know, one of the things that he put into his response is that the vehicle for the operations manager is a Ford Explorer that they want to replace. It's a 2008 Ford Explorer. They may have paid 22 to $25,000 back in 2008. But to replace a Ford Explorer right now is $45,000. I know it because my sister was pricing them a couple weeks ago for herself, all right. Now, they're telling me that the operations manager needs this type of vehicle because he may occasionally have to tow something. Well, if he has to tow something he can get a Ford F150 four-door so that he can tow whatever he needs to tow and also have additional passengers by having a four, and that's a $30,000 vehicle. So there's $15,000 savings there. Mr. Dorrill also talks about the staff that they want to hire. Do they have to be permanent employees? There's an issue with whether or not the services division is maintaining some foundation property, which is private property. We would have to fire those people later on. So why not make them temporary employees? And you may actually save some on the benefits. You're probably not going to save much on the salary but you save on the benefits. And my point is if you save a little bit here and a little bit there, for every $75,000 that we can find in savings, it's $10 less in the Page8 September 10, 2015 assessment. So I say if we could find $75,000 in the next two weeks, that assessment will come under $500. You know, it's just the principle of the matter in trying to be fiscally conservative. So I ask you to give us the additional time that we need to resolve these issues and continue to a hearing on -- when you reconvene on September 24th. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Sir, is this a monthly payment you have to make? DR. DOYLE: No, it's a yearly. CHAIRMAN NANCE: It's an annual assessment? DR. DOYLE: Correct. CHAIRMAN NANCE: And that changes from what to what 400 DR. DOYLE: 426 last year to 508 this year is being proposed. COMMISSIONER HILLER: $78 over the course of the year per unit. DR. DOYLE: And if I could put it into perspective, Commissioner. We do have some -- not everybody in that community is wealthy. We do have some low income seniors in a lot of the smaller condominiums closer to U.S. 41. And Social Security had a 1 .7 percent cost of living adjustment last year. They're having a zero percent this year, okay? And so that $80 increase is a lot to some of your elderly people who live in our -- who have lived there for 20 years. Now they're probably in their late seventies to late eighties. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, so this is an annual assessment that comes to all residents of Pelican Bay. DR. DOYLE: Right. Because it's an equivalent residential unit. It's flat to everyone whether you're rich or poor. CHAIRMAN NANCE: And then there are additional elements that are, you know, maybe a three-year assessment for a given project or so on and so forth that will come off of the total cost to the residents Page 9 September 10, 2015 of Pelican Bay in future years after those projects are completed, correct? DR. DOYLE: Well, we haven't seen that, because the last couple years it's always been around 400 to 426. We haven't had a real reduction in many years. In fact, if you look at the last 25 years of assessments, it's been much higher than the rate of inflation, if you look at the time value of money. Years ago it used to be high 150, 200, when my mother first moved into Pelican Bay in 1991. So if you look at adjusted for inflation it's more -- it's gone very high. And the other thing too is, you know, even for the wealthy people who live in Pelican Bay, because the Social Security cost of living is going to be zero, anyone who has -- who makes over $87,000, and of course a lot of the people do in Pelican Bay, they're actually going to have an increase in their Medicare premiums by federal law by $1,200 to $2,400 a year. So, you know, this -- and they probably don't realize that yet. So I'm just saying that let's just be cost effective here and see if we can reduce this assessment. Thank you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, your final speaker on this item is Dave Trecker. MR. TRECKER: Good evening, Commissioners. My name's Dave Trecker. I'm a member of the Pelican Bay Services Division Board and immediate past chairman. I want to address a couple of points my predecessors have made and try to underscore some that our administrator Neil Dorrill has made. Let me say at the onset there is every indication the residents in Pelican Bay are supportive of this budget. We've held the line for a number of years on cost increases. And folks recognize that an increase is needed now to allow us to keep providing the level of Page 10 September 10, 2015 service that they expect. We need to replace some equipment, as Neil has indicated. There was a criticism about a particular SUV. I would suggest that's not a matter of cost, it's a matter of cost effectiveness. The cheapest vehicle over the long haul isn't always the best. These items have been pretty thoroughly vetted by the committees and by the board. We have to update an irrigation system that's antiquated. We need to put some pollution controls in place and shore up some of the banks of the lakes. And as Neil indicated, we need to continue to reserve for beach renourishment and street light replacements. And importantly, to put in place the structure to maintain Clam Bay along the lines that you folks approved earlier in the year in our management plan. On a per resident basis the increase we're asking for amounts to about 350 a month, not a debilitating amount at all. Finally, I'd like to say that a lot of thought has gone into holding down the cost here. We're very cognizant about the need to do that. Things have been thoroughly vetted. And the Board, the Pelican Bay Services Division board, voted overwhelmingly in favor of the budget and we are convinced this the right budget at this time for the Pelican Bay MSTBU. Just one other quick comment. Bob Naegele, the president of the Pelican Bay Property Owners Association, couldn't be here today, but he asked me to express his support for the budget as well. So I think our residents are pretty fully on board with this. Thank you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes, thank you very much. To begin, I'd like to address the issue of whether a vote should be taken today or whether a vote should be deferred to the next meeting. Page 11 September 10, 2015 In the past the services division budget was only voted on once. And it was actually at Mr. Doyle's request I believe in the past few years that he suggested that we at Pelican Bay be treated the same way as the regular budget be treated; in other words, that there be two votes. So I don't think it would be appropriate at this time not to vote on this. That being said, if anything comes up between now and the next hearing when the second vote is taken, we can always, you know, amend our decision at that time. So I do think we need to vote on it today. The other issue is this matter has been endorsed by the Pelican Bay Services Division by a supermajority by the foundation and by the homeowners association. On the other hand, Mr. Doyle does bring up some good points. Whenever there's an opportunity to save money, even if it's a small amount, we should save it. Because we don't want to waste anything if we can avoid to do so. And like, for example, looking at the vehicle. I unfortunately had the experience of feeling the sticker shock of what it would cost to buy a pickup truck, because I thought of buying one for my son and I actually did look at the F150. If I could buy an F150 for 30,000, I assure you I would have bought it. And I don't think I could get out the door for realistically anything less than about 37, if you're looking at a $33,000 sticker, you know, tax, tag, title. It starts adding up very quickly. On the other hand you could also look at for example a used vehicle. They have, you know, wonderful certified warrantied lightly used vehicles that might save you some money. At the end of the day, Mr. Doyle's comments should be looked at, should be considered, and if the decision is made not to change the budget at this time, then what I suggest is, you know, when the decision to actually make the purchase comes forward for approval to Page 12 September 10, 2015 this Board, if it's an amount where Board approval is required in advance of the actual purchase, that we will look at it and make sure that, you know, we've picked the lowest cost alternative. So we do have until the next meeting. I'm going to make a motion to approve, in light of what I said. And if anything comes forward between now and then, we can always modify our motion to approve at the next hearing. But I appreciate all the work done by everybody, by the residents like Mr. Doyle, and other residents, by the PBSD, by the foundation and by the Pelican Bay Homeowners Association. Everybody has been involved and everybody has done the best they could to make this the most cost effective budget with the greatest return. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Commissioner Hiller, are you saying you're meeting with Mr. Doyle to go over the response from the PBSD? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Mr. Doyle and I have already met and we discussed -- he provided a response to Mr. Dorrill's responses. But they have not been able to sit down and work out the differences. So whether that can be accomplished between now and the next hearing, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what the schedule of Mr. Doyle is or our staff is. But my point is that to the extent that anything can be achieved between now and then, we will bring it forward at the next meeting, if it's warranted. And if it can't be, a budget is merely a guideline. And so to the extent that I will continue working with Mr. Doyle, if the recommendations he makes are warranted, I will bring that forward before the Board and in discussion with Mr. Dorrill and we'll save money and adjust, you know, whatever the proposed cost is. So even if the amount budgeted is let's say $100, if we can figure Page 13 September 10, 2015 out ways, you know, during the course of the year to save $20, that's what we'll do. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So the answer is yes? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Specifically to what question? COMMISSIONER HENNING: My question. Are you meeting with Mr. Doyle? He said he hasn't had time to get together with you to go over the response. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Absolutely. If he wants -- Mr. Doyle has my number and he knows very well he can meet with me whenever he wants. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So I think that was said that you're budgeting for more staffing for maintenance of-- MR. DORRILL: Three groundskeepers and one entry level project manager, in addition to the scheduled vehicle replacements. And not to belabor the discussion, the actual classification of the vehicles are determined by your fleet management department. We don't willy-nilly just pick and choose what we want to purchase. We also buy off of state contract, and so whoever has the State of Florida's contract for the coming year. And I bought a Ford Explorer last year for a different client. These are two-wheel drive XL models, cloth or vinyl seats, FM radio and an air conditioner. COMMISSIONER HILLER: The basics. MR. DORRILL: I paid about $29,000 for a 2014 Ford Explorer off a state contract for a similar client. So I wouldn't want you to think that it's a $45,000 vehicle, because it's just not. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. MR. DORRILL: We do have -- also in response to your direct question, we have a very aggressive budget and finance committee. The gentleman who served for many years rotated off the board. The gentleman who is nominated to be the next budget chair is a retired Page 14 September 10, 2015 school superintendent from the northeast who fully understands public finance and governmental budgets. I think that if he agrees, he'll be an excellent chairman. He called me on my way to the meeting here from New Jersey and he is willing to meet with Dr. Doyle also in advance of the next budget committee meeting to provide additional responses. And then finally, I just want to remind you, we sent out over 7,000 first class letters explaining the budget and the assessment. I didn't get a single complaint to my office, aside from the comments that Dr. Doyle asked us to respond to following your budget workshop. COMMISSIONER HENNING: The three ground maintenance personnel adding to the existing ground maintenance, I'm sure there's a reason why that's not outsourced instead of doing all that in-house? MR. DORRILL: You also have a landscape committee there. They prefer a combination of the two. About half of our workforce that comes to work every day are county employees. The other half, I think it's 11, are contracted day laborers that are part of a separate annual contract with the Board of County Commissioners. And so we're using the combination of the two. They desire a very high level of service and have for 25 years. And it has been a combination of out source, day laborers and county employees for probably 25 years. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, I -- I would imagine they want a higher level of service than most because it's a beautiful community. However, I'm not sure if you have an employee you're going to get a better service than if you outsource it by specifics. So food for thought. But I'll let Commissioner Hiller bring that idea back. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. I appreciate it. MR. DORRILL: If there are no other questions, I think the appropriate motion, and Mr. Isackson may need to help me, you will need to close the hearing and then there's an associated resolution that Page 15 September 10, 2015 establishes both the preliminary and the final assessment role. And then you will adopt the separate ad valorem millage by a different action, either later this evening or at your next hearing. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I just want to make clear, I am willing to meet with everybody, not just Mr. Doyle, but if Mr. Trecker or Susan O'Brien or any other resident, or Mr. Cook or any other -- Mr. Naegele, if any resident of Pelican Bay wants to address this budget in any manner in support or against, I'm more than happy to meet with them, and more than happy to set up a meeting with you and them to make sure that they have the opportunity to see all the details that support what you have put together on their behalf. So without exception. MR. DORRILL: Thank you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Commissioner Fiala, questions or comments, ma'am? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, sir. I did hear the presentations from the two other gentlemen besides Dr. Doyle, and they seemed to be speaking for a multitude of people in Pelican Bay. And being that Neil Dorrill hasn't heard any contrary opinions but 7,000 letters were sent out with no negative response, other than Dr. Doyle, I would think we should just go on and vote on it. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Very well. Commissioner Hiller has made the motion, I will second the motion. Is there any further discussion? (No response.) COMMISSIONER HILLER: Have you closed the hearing, Mr. Isackson? Do we make the -- do we make the motion and vote on it first or do you close the hearing and then we -- MR. ISACKSON: I think the appropriate action at this time, Commissioners, is to approve the resolution, approve the special assessment role in levying the special assessment against the benefit of Page 16 September 10, 2015 the properties within the MSTBU. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller is going to refine her motion. Item #2C (On the Pelican Bay Services Division Budget Agenda) RESOLUTION 2015-178: APPROVING THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ROLL AND LEVYING THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AGAINST THE BENEFITED PROPERTIES WITHIN THE PELICAN BAY MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING AND BENEFIT UNIT — ADOPTED COMMISSIONER HILLER: That the Board of County Commissioners adopts the resolution approving the special assessment role in levying the special assessment against the benefited properties within the Pelican Bay Municipal Service Taxing and Benefit Unit as proposed here this evening. CHAIRMAN NANCE: And I will adjust my second to support that motion. Any further discussion? (No response.) CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed, like sign. (No response.) CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, the motion passes unanimously. Page 17 September 10, 2015 MR. DORRILL: Thank you again. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Are we going to close the hearing now, Mr. Isackson? MR. ISACKSON: If you would, please. CHAIRMAN NANCE: At this time we will close the hearing regarding the Pelican Bay fiscal year 2016 Pelican Bay Services Division budget. I believe at this time we are going to -- are we going to do the -- is the resolution completed or do we need a motion on the resolution? MR. ISACKSON: No, I think you're fine with respect to the Pelican Bay Services Division. CHAIRMAN NANCE: We're going to proceed to our next hearing? MR. ISACKSON: Yes, please. Item #1 (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING — BCC FISCAL YEAR 2016 TENTATIVE BUDGET CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, at this time we're going to open our second public hearing on the BCC fiscal year 2016 tentative budget for Collier County. We'll call the hearing open. Item #1A (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) DISCUSSION OF TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATES AND INCREASES OVER THE ROLLED BACK MILLAGE RATES — PRESENTED Page 18 September 10, 2015 MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, Commissioners. If you would, bear with me. This is a relatively rigid agenda as required by TRIM statutes, and I've got some remarks I have to make on the record pursuant to TRIM statutes. So if you would indulge me, let me begin. Welcome to the first of two public hearings on the Collier County government fiscal year 2016 budget which begins October 1, 2015 and runs through September 30, 2016. The public budget hearings in September must follow a specific format pursuant to Truth in Millage guidelines. Your agenda contains the specific sequence of agenda items to be covered. Pursuant to statute, this hearing was advertised as part of the TRIM notice mailed to all Collier County property owners. The final budget hearing is two weeks from tonight or September 24th, 2015. This hearing will be noticed as part of the statutory advertising requirement contained in the Truth In Millage statutes. The notice of proposed tax increase ad will appear in the Naples Daily News on September 21st, 2015. This type of ad is necessary since the county's tentatively adopted aggregate millage rate is greater than the current year aggregate rolled-back rate. Final tax rate and budget decisions will be made at this final hearing on the 24th of September, 2015. Agenda and speaker slips are available in the hallway. Anyone interested in addressing the Board regarding the county budget must complete a speaker slip. Mr. Troy Miller will collect the speaker slips. Following some introductory remarks regarding tax rates and changes to the tentative budget released in mid July, there will be an opportunity, which is agenda Item 1 .C, for public comment. The speakers will be called by name. The TRIM notice mailed to all property owners indicated that by Page 19 September 10, 2015 close of business on September 8th, 2015 was the deadline for property owners to contact the property appraiser and file a petition for market adjustment with the Value Adjustment Board. Commissioners, Item 1.A on the agenda is a discussion of the tentative millage rates and increases over the rolled-back millage rates. State law requires that the first substantive issue to be discussed are one, percentage increase in millage over the rolled-back rate needed to fund the budget, and two, the reasons ad valorem tax revenues above the rolled-back rate as calculated on the state DR 420 forms are being increased. Rolled-back rate is defined as that tax rate necessary to generate prior year tax revenues, and this tax rate is calculated not including taxable values associated with new construction, additions, deletions and rehabilitative improvements. The Board adopted budget guidance for FY 2016 included a millage neutral position, the same tax rate as last year and for that matter since fiscal year 2010 for the general fund and the unincorporated area general fund, which together represent over 96 percent of the total aggregate taxes levied across all Collier County taxing authorities for FY 2016. The fiscal year 2016 tentative general fund and unincorporated area general fund budgets as presented are based upon board adopted budget policy, calling for a millage neutral tax rate. Both the general fund and the unincorporated area general fund tax rates are higher than the rolled-back rate. Collier County taxable value has increased over the past four fiscal years, and the increase for FY 2016 is 8.61 percent and 8.83 percent within the general fund and unincorporated area general fund respectfully. Within an increasing taxable value environment under millage neutral policy guidance, the rolled-back rate will be lower than millage Page 20 September 10, 2015 neutral. This event occurs in FY 16. Collier County recorded its highest taxable value in fiscal year 2008 at 82.5 billion dollars. While taxable value has recovered nicely over the past four fiscal years, the tax base still has eroded some 12.4 billion since FY 2008. For six years, between fiscal year 2008 and 2013, the adopted millage rate was lower than the rolled-back rate. Had the county levied that rolled-back rate or higher millage rate as the adopted millage rate for those fiscal years, an additional $89.7 million in ad valorem revenue could have been realized. Millage neutral tax rates in FY 14 through FY 16 under board adopted budget guidance realizes an additional 30.5 million for that three-year period. As a pure factor of tax base loss since FY 2008, that $12.4 billion figure that I just mentioned, lost levy potential based on the current millage neutral rate is approximately $44 million. Likewise, during that same period since FY 2008 within the unincorporated area general fund, 7.3 million in lost levy potential occurred by levying the adopted rate as opposed to the rolled-back rate. Recovery of those dollars to fund continued backlog asset and infrastructure replacement/maintenance while offering continued service to the residents and visitors will represent one of the most important decisions faced by future boards. Each year tax policy is visited by the sitting board and budget decisions are crafted around the enacted board guidance. Commissioners, referring to Exhibit 1.A, Page 1, millage rates for each Collier County taxing authority has been established pursuant to budget guidance. This guidance provided that millage neutral tax rate positions would be established in the general fund and unincorporated area general fund. Page 21 September 10, 2015 Further, MSTU tax rates would be set between tax neutral, which is the rolled-back rate, and millage neutral based upon their respective advisory board recommendations. MSTU rates where no advisory board exists would be established at millage neutral or below. The roster of tax rates adopted by the Board on July 7th, 2015 represent the maximum property tax rates that can be levied in 2016. The cumulative aggregate rolled-back rate for all Collier County taxing authorities, exclusive of debt service, totals 3.9074 per $1,000 of taxable value. The proposed aggregate tax rate for all Collier County taxing authorities, exclusive of debt service, totals 4.1501 per $1,000 of taxable value. This represents an increase of 6.21 percent over the aggregate rolled-back rate and necessitates a notice of proposed tax increase ad for TRIM purposes and not simply a budget summary ad. Final millage rates will be adopted by the Board on September 24th. Item #1B (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF CHANGES TO THE TENTATIVE BUDGET Commissioners, I'd like to move to Item 1.B which is a review and discussion of changes to the tentative budget for tonight's hearing. Changes from the FY 2016 July tentative budget, as noted within Exhibit 1.B, pertain to the receipt of the tax collector's budget, creating the general governmental and enterprise motor pool capital recovery funds, related capital recovery charges and allocating specific backlog vehicle and equipment purchases, as well as adjustments to the impact fee trust fund reflecting revenue actually received above or below the level forecast in July. These budgetary changes are found within Exhibit 1 .B, pages 7 Page 22 September 10, 2015 through 48. A summary of these actions are described within Exhibit 1 .B, pages 1 through 6. The total gross budget changes amount to 28.3 million, of which 19.2 million is the customary submittal of the tax collector's budget to the Department of Revenue on August 1st. Remaining changes are 5.1 million of transfers and internal money shifts associated with the motor pool capital recovery funds, approximately 3.2 million of recognized impact fee revenue received in FY 15, and about 800,000 of recognized non-impact fee revenue received in 2015 benefiting the general fund and our gas tax fund. According to the tax collector statement of commissions and expenditures, the FY 2016 budget totals $19,224,800 and is offset by service commissions or charges. The tax collector is a fee based operation, this year's tax collector's budget represents an increase of 8.8 percent from FY 15. That said, turn-back from the tax collector, as well as all constitutional officers is significant each year and represents excess commissions over actual expenditures to run the operations. Year ending turn-back by the tax collector to the general fund for the past two fiscal years, 2013 year end and 2014 year end, totaled $5,176,168 a $5,181,693 respectively. Turn-back from all constitutional officers to the general fund for the same periods totaled $7,434,910 and $7,239,836 respectively. Factoring out all the internal money shifts, which is a characteristic of the gross budget, the 2016 net budget increased $23,169,400 of which $19,224,800 is the tax collector's appropriation. The remaining $3,944,600 in new appropriation is primarily associated with the recognition of impact fee revenue above that which is forecast. There are no proposed changes to the maximum millage rates as set by the Board on July 7th, 2015. Commissioners, if there are no questions on the changes to the Page 23 September 10, 2015 tentative budget, I would suggest proceeding to the public comments and questions which is Item 1 .0 on the agenda. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning, you want to hear public speakers or would you like to go first? COMMISSIONER HENNING: I don't care. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Please go ahead, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: The turn-back money has not been -- the proposed turn-back money or anticipated turn-back money has not been budgeted yet; is that correct? MR. ISACKSON: Commissioner, we actually have forecast a 2015 number. We won't get that number until 30 days after the close of the fiscal year. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So it is budgeted then. MR. ISACKSON: It's forecast, yes. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Or forecast. MR. ISACKSON: Hopefully below what we think we're going to get. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Hopefully above. MR. ISACKSON: Well, our forecast would be below what we actually get is what I'm trying to say. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So it's already anticipated in the upcoming budget. MR. ISACKSON: Yes. COMMISSIONER HENNING: That answers my question. Thank you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes. You know, certain things have developed since our workshop and I have a concern. My concern relates to EMS and the funding of EMS. The first thing I just want to mention as a general comment that Page 24 September 10, 2015 concerns me, and then I'll get directly to the issue of the numbers, is as you know there has been a consolidation effort underway and Big Corkscrew and North Naples merged and they're one unit. And that was approved by the voters. That obviously will have a fiscal impact on the county as it has, you know, where we have made a contribution of the one unit. It's my understanding, and this is really a preamble to what I want to talk about in more detail, that apparently Representative Passidomo is trying to work the legislative process to undo that merger. I don't know if that's true and I'd like to ask staff to find out if that's the case, because I obviously would be very concerned if we have a legislative representative who's trying to undo what was the will of the voters. And I have concerns what type of fiscal impact that would have. The second thing that I'd like staff to address for me is my understanding was that there was a meeting yesterday, I think it was yesterday, and I'm not sure who all attended the meeting, but I believe it was Commissioner Page, I believe the Chief from Greater Naples district was in attendance, Wayne Martin. I believe Kingman Schuldt was in attendance and Greg Pactor, who I believe works for us for EMS and is a member of Local 1826. COMMISSIONER HENNING: This has nothing to do with the budget. COMMISSIONER HILLER: It has everything to do with the budget. And what was -- my understanding of what was discussed in this meeting, Leo, and I don't know if you were aware of it -- MR. OCHS: No, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- was that apparently what these men were addressing, and I think you were invited, I don't know if you were there, Commissioner Henning. And I think that Mr. Tober was there -- Page 25 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's an assumption on your part. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, I don't know if you were there or not, but I -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, you're assuming that I was invited. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. Well, maybe you weren't. So it's my understanding that what was discussed at that meeting was a turnover of Collier County EMS to the Greater Naples Fire District. And that that in turn played into the Board's denial of North Naples COPCN and the extension of the North Naples COPCN district to -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Chairman, what does this have to do with the budget? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Let me continue. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But this is rumors -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: This is hearsay. This isn't -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Hang on a second. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- appropriate at a budget meeting. COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's very appropriate. Because here's my concern. I don't know who is authorizing these kinds of discussions on the part of our staff with these individuals. And the problem is is that if in fact something like that is being proposed, the question of EMS's budget is very much at issue. Now, what I will say is there's no way that North Naples can enter into an interlocal agreement with the county, because the county can't contract away its license. In fact, I believe that all these interlocal agreements the county has entered into are more likely than not invalid. Page 26 September 10, 2015 And that goes to the whole issue of funding EMS. EMS is being subsidized by the general fund because it doesn't generate sufficient revenue from its ambulance services to support itself. And if something like this is going on, the budgetary impact of denying North Naples the ability to have a COPCN will have a direct budgetary impact on what we have before us today. So I want to know what's going on. I want to know if these discussions are going on. I want to know who authorized these discussions to go on by our staff with these parties. I want to know if, you know, other commissioners are involved in these discussions. Because it's completely inappropriate. I mean, it hasn't been approved by this board, it would have a major impact on the current budget, and if there is any contemplation of giving away EMS to the Greater Naples Fire District by way of-- CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- agreement, then we've got a big problem. CHAIRMAN NANCE: We are not discussing the administration of Emergency Medical Services. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, it all goes directly to the general fund budget allocation to EMS. CHAIRMAN NANCE: EMS is a service that is assessed to all Collier citizens by uniform millage rate, regardless of their residence, regardless of any arrangement for providing fire services. So we're here today to discuss a resolution to adopt the tentative millage rates -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, but there's a problem. CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- and to adopt the amended tentative budget. If you want to -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, that's not -- CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- challenge the EMS budget at the time Page 27 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, the general fund is subsidizing EMS. EMS does not have enough of its own revenues to support itself at the level of service that we as a board have committed to. Now, what I will say is that if we lose the support of for example the North Naples district, then Collier County is going to have to pick up that tab, and that's going to have a direct impact on the general fund and that is what we are voting on here today. Because money has to come from somewhere to add the additional service providers, the additional ALS paramedics if North Naples is unable to provide that service because we're denying them the legal right to do so. So this is directly on point, and I want to know what is going on and I want to know how this is all going to impact this budget. Because very clearly -- and by the way, it's my understanding that -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: Sounds like a private conversation. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it's very much a public conversation. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But it's -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's a very public -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's rumors. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it's not rumors. It's not rumors. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Starting rumors from North Naples -- CHAIRMAN NANCE: Please, if there -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it's not rumors. CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- is a question or a motion here, I would like to hear it, because we need to move forward, ma'am, with -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: And again, the question is to you, Leo. Were you aware that there was any discussion about transferring EMS to Greater Naples under some sort of interlocal agreement? MR. OCHS: No, Commissioner. Page 28 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HILLER: So are you aware of any discussion to try to force North Naples into an interlocal agreement or otherwise deny them their ability to get a COPCN from this board? MR. OCHS: No, ma'am. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Do you believe that there's any reason that the budget, the general fund will be impacted in any way as a result of any potential discussions with any of these districts with respect to ALS services? MR. OCHS: Ma'am, I will say that EMS relies on our partnership agreements with the various fire districts for advanced life support services, and if we lose that capability in any of those districts, it may indeed have an impact on our response times, our ALS response times in those areas, and we'll have to assess that and bring that back to the Board for some -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: And it would obviously -- MR. OCHS: -- future direction, if in fact that occurs. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And it would also have a fiscal impact as well. The other concern I have is, you know, what was clearly identified is for example with respect to Big Corkscrew, the level of service is drastically disproportionate, for example, to Naples, as was described where, you know, they only have two -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: Can we go to public speakers or COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- take a break? Can we take a break? COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, this is very significant. And I want to know if there shouldn't be any budgetary consideration to put it on par with the City of Naples. I mean, if they have eight trucks, if they have eight -- Page 29 September 10, 2015 CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, we're not discussing delivery of Emergency Medical Services here. We're talking about -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: But we have to fund it from the general fund. This is all about approval of the general fund. And this is all about approval of the general fund. We have to discuss it right now. CHAIRMAN NANCE: If you have a motion to change the budget for EMS, please bring it forward when we get to that point. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, that's actually a very good just suggestion. Maybe we need to do that. And, you know, it's interesting CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, I heard no discussion from any of the fire districts when we discussed the budget, which we did in exhaustive meetings, I had nobody bring up any of these concerns. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And you know, I absolutely agree with you. The problem is is that at the time that we had the workshop, none of this came forward because these meetings apparently had not been had. This is a meeting that just recently happened. My understanding, this is a meeting that occurred between the denial of the COPCN to North Naples and to Big Corkscrew -- CHAIRMAN NANCE: But the -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- and today. And somewhere in between that time this meeting was had. And I will tell you right now there are budgetary concerns as it relates to EMS given that it cannot exist without subsidized funding from the general fund. There is a very clear shortfall. And if we lose the support of North Naples, as an example, then I assure you we will have to subsidize from the general fund which will have a direct impact on the millage. Unless you're going to reduce the reserves and shift funds. CHAIRMAN NANCE: This is a topic that we can address in an agenda item or workshop or public meetings -- Page 30 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it goes directly -- CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- not during the budget. COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it goes directly -- this goes absolutely directly to this budget. Just like these people from DAS are here and are going to address their concerns that additional funding is needed for animal services. Which is the reason I believe you're all here; is that correct? There's no difference. An essential service, protect the animals, no different than an essential service like emergency services to protect the people. CHAIRMAN NANCE: They have a specific -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: We need money, we're going to make the request right now -- CHAIRMAN NANCE: At this time we're going to go to public speakers. COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- because we need to make sure that the level of service is provided as committed to by this board. Item #1C (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS CHAIRMAN NANCE: At this time we're going to go to the public speakers. Mr. Miller? MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, there are four registered public speakers. Your first speaker is Brad Estes. He'll be followed by Marjorie Bloom. MR. ESTES: Good evening, Chairman Nance, Commissioners. Am Ion? MR. MILLER: Go ahead. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir. Page 31 September 10, 2015 MR. ESTES: Good evening. Can you hear me? CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir. MR. ESTES: I'm Brad Estes. I'm a volunteer with Volunteer Services for Animals. VSA is a non-profit animal rescue services and advocacy group. I initially appeared before you June 25th of the budget hearing and I'm back because I didn't do a very good job and I'm going to try again. I'm here again respectfully asking you for reconsideration of two unfunded items for the Domestic Animal Services budget. These include an intake animal care specialist position and a fan system for the kennels and the cat area. The animal care position was recommended by the Maddie's Shelter Medicine Program at the University of Florida earlier this year when it visited DAS facilities. The position would increase live release rates, decrease euthanasia and decrease operational costs related to housing surrendered animals. The position would also provide additional staffing for the DAS front desk which at times is severely overtaxed. There are options to surrendering a pet. There have been 1,093 surrenders through July of this year. The position would explore possibilities with animal owners about options such as for food assistance when they can't afford food, for medical care assistance, compliance issues, behavioral problems and spay and neuter assistance, which we offer. The position would also assist with the enhancement of the very successful public-private partnership program to transfer adoptable animals to private shelters for adoption. There were 924 transfers through July of this year in addition while DSA has experienced an intake decline of 34 percent in the last eight years. That's 34 percent in the last eight years. Page 32 September 10, 2015 We must optimize the use of our limited shelter space to be able to address the domestic animal population growth which is surging as residential occupancy rates and new construction rebound. Secondly, please reconsider the excluded funding of a fan cooling system for the kennel buildings and the cat area. It is very hot in these buildings and these hopefully temporary guests wear fur coats. There is no installed system for our air movement for animal comfort. DAS must utilize an ineffective system of directional service fans. And thank you for your consideration. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Question. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning. COMMISSIONER HENNING: When did -- I heard the word reconsider, like the Board has taken action in removing these considerations on our proposed budget. That's what you're saying? MR. ESTES: No, it's a reconsideration of the budget office and the County Manager in terms of not including it among the requested funded items -- or the recommended funded items. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Recommended by whom? MR. ESTES: Recommended by DAS. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. Well, thanks for the clarification. Because the way it was presented, that we need to reconsider it. MR. ESTES: Well, yes. COMMISSIONER HENNING: So to that, I would say to my colleagues, you know, we task Steve Carnell to take a look at his existing budget to see how he can fund that. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I would agree with that. I would agree. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay? That kind of takes care of that issue, hopefully. Page 33 September 10, 2015 MR. ESTES: I would say that is very appropriate. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay, thank you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: I would just like to make a comment. I will tell you that DAS has one of the most wonderful core of citizen volunteers that help in the mission and to get the job done. And, you know, as a Commissioner, I would like to thank all of you that put so many hours and so much work into that. That having been said -- (applause). That having been said, you know, it's very painful at budget time to not be able to grant all the requests for funding that we get. Because I will tell you we are approached many, many times, all with very, very worthy items that really should be accomplished and perhaps in past years could have been accomplished. But I'm sure you listened with interest when Mr. Isackson described to you the shortfall and funding that the county has sustained since the great recession that we've gone through. COMMISSIONER HENNING: 42 million. CHAIRMAN NANCE: And the problem is that at present the Board members that represent each of you in your districts are tasked with the responsibility of trying to figure out how we're going to overcome this tremendous shortfall. And where it exists is in capital infrastructure. It's in things that have broken and need to be capitally replaced or repaired or equipment that we've had to keep beyond its useful life and things of that nature. So I apologize to you for not being able to meet all of your requests and your hopes, but I hope you understand that we make the very best decisions that we can to equitably divide the funding that we have amongst the many needs that we have. So I'm sorry that we can't do it every time for you, but I want you to know that we take those decisions very, very seriously. Commissioner Hiller? Page 34 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, Mr. Ochs, can we have Mr. Carrell come up and tell us specifically what the cost of these items are? MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. COMMISSIONER FIALA: By the way, that's exactly what I was going to ask Mr. -- that I was going to ask Brad as well. So it's going to be interesting to hear, because it doesn't sound like it's a very major amount. And capital expenses would be that fan to circulate the area. MR. CARNELL: Good evening, Commissioners. Steve Carrell, Public Services Department Head. The answer to your question, Commissioner Hiller, is to provide a complete fan ventilation system for all four buildings that are in question would be -- our initial estimate is a little over $100,000. It's about 109,000 is the working number we have presently. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So $25,000 per building? MR. CARNELL: Yeah, it -- the amounts vary greatly. So it's not an even amount -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: And how many animals are affected? MR. CARNELL: You know, I don't know exactly. It would be all of our animals. Other than -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: But approximately. MR. CARNELL: -- the ones that are in -- I don't have an exact number, even a good estimate for you. The -- it would be all the animals in our kennels, cats and dogs. And really, the only exception would be the ones that are out in the showroom or the adoption area who are in a central air building. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Is it 1,000 animals? MR. CARNELL: No. COMMISSIONER HILLER: A hundred? MR. CARNELL: No, it would be probably low hundreds. Page 35 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HILLER: The low hundreds. MR. CARNELL: Yeah. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So somewhere between 100 and 500? MR. CARNELL: Yeah, closer to 100, couple hundred. COMMISSIONER HILLER: 100 animals? MR. CARNELL: Yeah, a little -- you know, it would be in that range, Commissioner. I'd have to get back to you to give a specific number. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And how long are they housed in those units? MR. CARNELL: As long as it takes to find them a home or to -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: And on average, what is that? MR. CARNELL: Oh, it can be anywhere from two or three weeks, some are longer, some are less. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So for an extended period that they're -- MR. CARNELL: Oh, yes. Yes. COMMISSIONER HILLER: So that's for the -- what about the other costs for the -- there was more than just the fan, the position. MR. CARNELL: The intake coordinator position, our estimate would be about $47,000 annually in that position. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And that's a burden cost? MR. CARNELL: Yes. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And do you have it within your budget to adjust your numbers to come up with $150,000? MR. CARNELL: I don't, without drilling a lot deeper than I have right now. I probably don't. Now, I may be able to find a portion of it. We may be able to address some of the buildings. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Mark, can you find $150,000 possibly in some other line item that could be adjusted towards that? Page 36 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HENNING: I think the direction has already been given, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, but I want to make sure that it's a realistic direction that we can actually do it. COMMISSIONER HENNING: I mean I don't think that we can COMMISSIONER HILLER: Commissioner Henning, I'm speaking. COMMISSIONER HENNING: We cannot -- well, I know. COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's my turn. Thank you very much. COMMISSIONER HENNING: You've cut in on me many times. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Mr. Isackson? COMMISSIONER HENNING: We cannot address these details in this setting. COMMISSIONER HILLER: We can. MR. ISACKSON: What I would like to do, Commissioners, if it's at your blessing, is I would sit down with Mr. Camel!, the County Manager, and we go through and take a look at his budget and see where there are things that we might be able to do in order to accommodate it. For me to give you an answer right now, I'd have to take a look at it, if you don't mind. COMMISSIONER HENNING: See. COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's great, thank you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, Mr. Miller? MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Marjorie Bloom. She'll be followed by Michael Simonik. MS. BLOOM: Hi. My name's Marjorie Bloom. And I don't have my yellow shirt on like my buddies do, but I am a volunteer at Page 37 September 10, 2015 Domestic Animal Services and I'm also on the advisory board. And I'm grateful for this opportunity to speak. And I just so appreciate all that Steve does for Domestic Animal Services. But I do want to say that many of our cats and dogs, we usually have about 100 dogs and we have about 100 cats, and then we have gerbils and rabbits and everything else. We have some of our animals -- we've had a cat there for over a year. A dog that I adopted was there for over three-and-a-half months. It's not unusual. Thank God for people like the Humane Society and other rescue groups who come and take them from us. Because otherwise these dogs or cats would not have a good survival rate. I want to say that our leadership at DAS is unbelievable. We're just going in such a positive path. I also -- we're showing you this video because all those people there helped paint those kennels. We saved the taxpayers a lot of money. And I want to tell you also that it's hot in all of those buildings other than the lobby. It's hot for staff, it's hot for the volunteers, although we put ourselves at the bottom of the list. It's also hot when potential adopters come in and say how do you guys stand this? You will see that there is a thermometer up there. So I'm asking for ventilation in these buildings, which was suggested by the Maddie's Medicine Shelter assessment. It's important. We have broken fans that, you know, aren't working. But we just -- for the health and the well-being of all of the animals, we need ventilation. We also need lighting in the cat building. I believe that's building number four, I could be wrong. It is so dark in that building. And these cats are stacked up. If it's a black cat and you're reaching in for it, it can be dangerous, you know, because they're not all friendly. It's just a necessity. As far as the intake specialist coordinator, it would save tax dollar monies. Because if we could keep these animals in their home by Page 38 September 10, 2015 giving people food or just counseling them, it would inevitably save dollars. And we're very short-staffed at DAS and we have been ever since the recession. But I will tell you one thing, we're not short-staffed with volunteers, and we give our heart to this program and to -- we are, you know, we're the voice for these animals. So we hope that you'll consider the intake coordinator specialist who would do many things, you know, also giving shots to the animals when they come in. That reduces sickness, reduces the cost of medicine. Give us some good ventilation and give us some lights. Thanks. MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Michael Simonik. He'll be followed by Dr. Joseph Doyle. MR. SIMONIK: Good evening, Chairman Nance and County Commissioners, Mrs. Fiala up in the cloud. Thank you for having me speak today. I'm the Chairman of the Collier County Domestic Animal Services Advisory Board and as a hobby I'm the Executive Director of the Humane Society. So we sent -- I sent you a letter today I hope you got by fax. If not, I have copies. But the board voted at our last meeting to urge you to put these two items in the budget, since you didn't take them out, but put them in. We had though that they had come out, but we'd like to see both of them in. I want to speak to mostly the ventilation system. The intake position is integral, but the ventilation system to me as a shelter director is a basic requirement of the standards of any animal shelter anywhere. I can't imagine having an animal shelter without climate controlled air conditioning. I can't imagine my 600 volunteers standing before me saying, why don't you have air conditioning in the animal shelter. We bought a property out on Oaks Boulevard that had two dog Page 39 September 10, 2015 kennels in it, very, very similar to your buildings, 5,000 square foot steel buildings. And neither one had air conditioning in it. Before we placed even one pet in there, we put in air conditioning. And it cost $17,000 for each building. Two units of air conditioning, five-ton units. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Where is this building at? MR. SIMONIK: Oaks Boulevard, Burr Oaks Lane, the second street north of Vanderbilt. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is that in agricultural property? MR. SIMONIK: Yes. Yeah, it's agricultural. So we have eight acres up there now for intake. But I have heard numbers up to 800,000 to put air conditioning in your buildings. I have done it for $17,000, and did it in two weeks. It's possible. I talked to the director, Darcy, and she had some people out. There are different circumstances you have with the ventilation system, but I think they're asking the wrong question. It's not about the ventilation system. Forget about that. Just put some AC units in the system. It's just a building with four walls and a roof. You can AC it. I just can't imagine having a shelter that's exposed to the heat these animals are exposed to. Because the illness and the disease goes up with that, because their immunity goes down. So thank you for your direction of at least thinking about it, talking about it. But I hope something does happen, because I get calls and emails and texts from people, citizens saying why isn't the Humane Society doing something about this? And I say, well, I'm not the county, we run our own place. So we're urging you from the advisory board and myself from the Humane Society. Thank you. MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, your final public speaker this evening is Dr. Joseph Doyle. DR. DOYLE: Good evening, Commissioners. Dr. Joseph Doyle, Page 40 September 10, 2015 here again this time for the Pelican Bay Lighting Fund. We got two notices: One was for the prior hearing, one is for this hearing. I'd like to point out, Commissioner Nance, that we were told to complain to you and Dwight Brock, not to the services division, as far as -- that's why they haven't received any complaints about any of these things. Okay, so just to clarify that from the previous hearing. This fund is, as was stated, for the lighting, all the light poles and light fixtures along Pelican Bay Boulevard, as well as all the other county streets within Pelican Bay. As you know, those are mostly county roads because it was one of the earlier PUDs that were developed in this county and actually in the nation. And there is a need to replace the fixtures and the poles over a multi-year plan. I will let you know that historically I've been following this for about six years now, and the original spreadsheet called for a two percent increase in the lighting fund accumulation of reserves so that we'll have enough money to do the lighting. They're going to start in 2018 with some of the lighting. Another milestone is going to be 2021 and they'll end up with the final poles in 2026. It was set in February, March, of 2014, so about a year and a half ago that we've been accumulating funds faster than necessary. And the original spreadsheets, as I said, were for two percent a year. This millage that's -- even though you're keeping the millage rate the same, it's actually a 6.8 percent increase because the property values at Pelican Bay have gone up quite a bit in the last couple of years. So I'm just saying either keep it to the rolled-back millage or just two percent increase but not a 6.86 percent increase. I don't think we should be pulling it back up to last year's millage rate. Thank you. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Mr. Chairman? CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, thank you very much. I'm going back to the DAS issue. And something that nobody Page 41 September 10, 2015 seems to address, although we saw it in the movie, and that was that the roof is leaking. And they said every time it rains there's water in there. And I'm wondering if we shouldn't be repairing that roof as well. Because now we're going to be talking about mold and mildew. And with no air circulation, I think we need to address these issues, both the leaking roofs and then the -- and I think Michael Simonik said it perfectly, just get an air conditioner in there. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, Commissioner, I don't know. When you start putting air conditioning in things, then you have air conditioning operating bills. And the air condition operating bills will probably greatly exceed the cost of the infrastructure to buy the air conditioners. So -- COMMISSIONER FIALA: The air flow would be handled in a different way then? CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, I don't know. You know, Mr. Carnell, just from my perspective, you know, I believe -- I don't believe we're going to be able to answer all these questions during the budget hearings, during the budget process and the creation of the budget for the year. I'm sure that the advisory committee and the volunteers and the staff is going to need to take a look at capital infrastructure replacement needs of DAS as a whole and figure out over a period of time what is going to happen. And with the knowledge that the same issues that you have are issues that are occurring everywhere in every department. And, you know, honestly, I can tell you, we have needs everywhere that mirror what you do. There are situations we have in parks, there are things that need to be repaired and replaced and things that are broken that haven't been repaired and replaced because of the budget. So I feel for your enthusiasm for doing it for the animals, but I will tell you that the animals are unfortunately a victim of this Page 42 September 10, 2015 recession also. And, you know, like I say, I am eternally grateful for the involvement of the citizens in DAS. I think Mr. Simonik does an incredible job at Humane Society. I don't know how the team between DAS and Humane Society could be any better. I think your performance is great and your enthusiasm is inspiring. But, you know, at this time I don't think we -- I can't support doing anything at this time. But I would ask Mr. Carnell to go back and take a look at long term and prioritize what you can do. And take -- you know, he has to take the budget for services, you know, as a whole and he deals with many things and many hats. So I would ask him just to go back and get with you and take a look at it and start to go to work and come back in not the too distant future with a multi-year plan to get this done. Because that's what it's going to take. You're not going to be able to go in and cure the ills in the very, very stressed budget environment that we have. Commissioner Taylor? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But would you agree that with the idea of looking -- working with Mr. Isackson and seeing if there's any money to free up to start the process this year? CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, you know, ma'am, you have to look at all these needs. There are shortfalls everywhere, if you go through that budget. You know, I agree but, you know, I think if we do that then we open a Pandora's Box with a lot of people that volunteer a lot of time and have come and made passionate requests, not at this meeting but at other meetings. And with individual commissioners. Each one of these commissioners can give you stories about the inability to meet these financial burdens because of the recession. And I hope you realize that things are looking a little bit better now, but it's not all a bed of roses. We have a deep, deep hole to fill. Page 43 September 10, 2015 And that's our primary duty. And let me tell you this: If we don't fill the hole of capital infrastructure replacements, it's going to eat into all our budgets. Because it is costing us a fortune. To repair and go along not replacing equipment is the most expensive thing we can do. It's going to eat up all our operational budgets, not just DAS, if we don't get ahead of this. Because when we get bridges falling down and we have to divert money and do construction in appropriate ways and stuff like that, it affects all our operating budget. So I'm counseling you to understand the dilemma that we have. Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Chairman, it's $32 million of capital replacement that is shortfall. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes. COMMISSIONER HENNING: And that does not include bridges. Bridges is in a different category and hopefully I'll have that information for you soon. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, that's a bad example, sir, but it's -- COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, no, I mean, I'm just telling you, there's $32 million of these issues out there. Our buildings, vehicles, so on and so forth. So it's wide. You're right. You're absolutely right. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes, thank you. Having heard what our speakers have said, I can't believe that we don't have cooled buildings for these volunteers and these animals. I think that what the director of the Humane Society said is absolutely right, it's the first thing you have to do. I was not aware that that was the case. And this is a priority. This is a health, safety, welfare priority. And I think it's ludicrous that we're having this debate over $150,000. And if you want to short it down to 100 if we want to Page 44 September 10, 2015 delay on hiring the individual staffer, although I see the benefit and the need for that, as was described. It is unequivocal that we must provide air conditioning in these buildings. It's inhumane not to. And it is completely wrong if we have all these volunteers saving us probably not just hundreds of thousands but millions of dollars to not at least give them the comfort and the benefit of cooling in the very hot temperatures that they have to work. And I mean, I don't know how many hours -- how many hours do you put in that building when you're in there at a time? Please speak into the mic. MS. BLOOM: Some of these volunteers are at the shelter Monday through Saturday. And I have a list of the hours. I'm there probably four times a week. Some of those volunteers are there every day. We transport. And. It's not just us that are getting hot, because we're outside walking those dogs, but I'm talking about potential adopters that come in and say, how do you stand it here? Oh, my God, it's so hot. I mean, it's for the public. In 2014 we put in over 26,000 hours. And if there's a staff here for volunteer hours, it's worth $23.07. That's over $610,000. What -- when we painted the building, you know, the adoption building, I mean, that was three days of work. There were probably about 17 of us there always painting, scraping, priming. We saved a lot of money right there. COMMISSIONER HILLER: I have to support it. It's a health, safety issue. And I mean, if you could do your building for 17,000, whatever information you have, please share with our staff so that they can properly bid it. I strongly feel we need to get it done. I can't even believe we're having this debate. MS. BLOOM: I would love for you all to come spend a day with Page 45 September 10, 2015 a volunteer for just even an afternoon at the shelter. It would be an eye opening experience. And we'd love to have you. Thank you. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, sir? CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any comments or questions? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, nothing other than what I said. But we still need to fix the roof. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ten-four. Mr. Carnell has assured us that he is going to take that under advisement. Is that correct, Mr. Carnell? MR. CARNELL: Yes, sir. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Mr. Isackson? Item #1D (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) ANNOUNCEMENT OF TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATES AND PERCENTAGE CHANGES IN PROPERTY TAX RATES — READ INTO THE RECORD MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, sir. That brings us to Item 1.D. It's currently my favorite part of the agenda, for I have to actually sit here and people waiting for me for make mistakes in the reading of the roll. So Commissioners, please refer to tab 1.E where you'll find the resolution providing for the tentative FY 2016 millage rates. Florida TRIM statutes require that the rolled-back millage rates, tentative millage rates and percentage changes from the rolled-back rate be read into the record. And if you'll indulge me, Commissioners, I will begin. Page 46 September 10, 2015 CHAIRMAN NANCE: Please proceed, sir. MR. ISACKSON: The general fund: The rolled-back millage rate, 3.3529; the proposed millage rate, 3.5645. Change from the rolled-back rate, 6.31 percent. Water pollution control: The rolled-back rate, .0275; the proposed millage rate, .0293. The percent change from the rolled-back rate, 6.55 percent. The unincorporated area general fund: The rolled-back rate, .6759; proposed millage rate, .7161 . Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 5.95 percent. The Golden Gate Community Center: The rolled-back millage rate, .1756; the proposed millage rate, .1862. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 6.04 percent. The Victoria Park Drainage MSTU: The rolled-back rate, .0405; proposed millage rate, .0405. No change in the rolled-back rate. Naples Park Drainage: Rolled-back rate, .0073; proposed millage rate, .0073. No change from the rolled-back rate. The Vanderbilt Beach MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .4679; proposed millage rate, .5000. Percent change in the rolled-back rate, 6.86 percent. The Isles of Capri Fire MSTU: Rolled-back millage rate, 2.1240; proposed millage rate, 2.0000. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, -5.84 percent. The Fiddler's Creek Fire MSTU: There is no rolled-back rate. Proposed millage rate is 1.5000. And there is no calculation for change in the rolled-back rate. The Ochopee Fire Control MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, 3.8903. The proposed millage rate, 4.5000. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 15.67 percent. Collier County Fire: The rolled-back millage rate, 1 .9715; the proposed millage rate, 2.0000. Percent change from the rolled-back Page 47 September 10, 2015 rate, 1 .45 percent. The Goodland/Horr's Island Fire MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, 1.2824; the proposed millage rate, 1 .2760. The percent change in the rolled-back rate, -.50 percent. The Sable Palm Road MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .1020; the proposed millage rate, .1000. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, -1 .96 percent. The Golden Gate Parkway Beautification MSTU: Rolled-back rate, .4063; proposed millage rate, .4063. No change in the rolled-back rate. The Lely Golf Estates Beatification MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, 1.8665; proposed millage rate, 2.0000. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 7.15 percent. The Hawks Ridge Stormwater Pumping MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .043 5; proposed millage rate, .043 5. No change from the rolled-back rate. The Radio Road Beautification MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .2911; the proposed millage rate, .2911. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, no change. The Forest Lakes Roadway and Drainage MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, 1 .0131; proposed millage rate, 1 .1940. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 17.86 percent. The Immokalee Beautification MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .8851; the proposed millage rate, 1.0000. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 12.98 percent. The Bayshore Avalon Beatification MSTU: Rolled-back millage rate, 2.2618; the proposed millage rate, 2.3604. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 4.36 percent. The Haldeman Creek Dredging MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .6682; the proposed millage rate, .7348. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 9.97 percent. Page 48 September 10, 2015 The Rock Road MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, 2.8354; proposed millage rate, 3.0000. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 5.81 percent. The Radio Road East MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .2236; the proposed millage rate, .3311 . Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 48.08 percent. The Forest Lakes Debt Service: The rolled-back millage rate, 2.6637; the proposed millage rate, 2.8060. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 5.34 percent. The Radio Road East Debt Service: Rolled-back millage rate, .2242; the proposed millage rate, .1689. Percent change from rolled-back rate, -24.67 percent. Collier County Lighting MSTU: The rolled-back millage rate, .1880; proposed millage rate, .1880. No change from the rolled-back rate. Pelican Bay MSTBU: The rolled-back millage rate, .0802; the proposed millage rate, .0857. Percent change from the rolled-back rate, 6.86 percent. Finally, Commissioners, your Aggregate Millage Rate: The aggregate rolled-back rate, 3.9074; the proposed millage rate, 4.1501. The percent change from the rolled-back rate is 6.21 percent. Commissioners, Item 1.E on your agenda, if you'll allow me to get there, is a resolution to adopt the tentative millage rates. Commissioners, the tentative millage rates can be adopted by one single motion, assuming that motion is unanimous. If it's not, then I have a couple of comments to make, so I'll wait to — Item #1E (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) RESOLUTION 2015-179: A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATES — ADOPTED Page 49 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to approve a resolution adopting the tentative millage rate for fiscal year 2015-2016. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second. CHAIRMAN NANCE: In their entirety? COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yes. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Questions or comments from board members? (No response.) CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala, do you have any -- COMMISSIONER FIALA: I said second, but I don't think you heard me. But yes, I approve. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, hearing no questions or other discussion, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed, like sign. (No response.) CHAIRMAN NANCE: It passes unanimously. Item #1F (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) RESOLUTION 2015-180: A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE AMENDED TENTATIVE BUDGET — ADOPTED MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, Item 1.F is a resolution to Page 50 September 10, 2015 adopt the amended tentative budget. And that can be done by one action also. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we approve the resolution adopting the tentative budget for 2016 -- 2015-2016. CHAIRMAN NANCE: 15-16. I will second it. In their entirety. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yes. CHAIRMAN NANCE: I will second it. Comments from board members? COMMISSIONER HILLER: Opposed. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller is opposed. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes. And I'm opposed for the reason being that I believe the EMS budget is going to be a problem in light of the Board's denial of North Naples COPCN. And the inadequate level of service to the Big Corkscrew District which is disproportionately less than for example Naples. And I think we're going to have a very significant budgetary issue there in light of the decision where that was made at the last meeting, which will go directly to the general fund since the EMS budget is being subsidized very substantially by general fund dollars. So I can't support this. And I also feel that a budgetary change has to be made for animal services at a minimum for the air conditioning for the four buildings. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Isackson? MR. ISACKSON: Yes, sir. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any obligate comments or action on your part? MR. ISACKSON: Proceed with the vote, please. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any other comments or questions from Commissioners? Page 51 September 10, 2015 COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yes. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning? COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's nice to see an extra added female to this agenda -- to this dais. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's you. CHAIRMAN NANCE: We are significantly outvoted, sir. COMMISSIONER HENNING: But yeah, this one is really cute. CHAIRMAN NANCE: And all of them are equals, sir. Commissioner Fiala? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, so we're cute, are we? CHAIRMAN NANCE: See, I knew I was going to get in trouble. Commissioner Fiala, any final comments? COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, I just hope that we'll readdress the DAS request. But I approve along with everyone else except -- CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right. Hearing no comments, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye. COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed? (No response.) CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller is opposed or -- COMMISSIONER HILLER: Opposed. CHAIRMAN NANCE: It passes 4-1 with Commissioner Hiller in dissent. Item #1G (On the Board of County Commissioners Budget Agenda) ANNOUNCEMENT OF FINAL PUBLIC BUDGET HEARING Page 52 September 10, 2015 MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, Item 1.G is announcement of the final public hearing. The final public hearing on the fiscal year 2015-2016 Collier County budget is Thursday, September 24th, 5:05 p.m. in these chambers. That's all I have, sir. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Mr. Ochs, do you have anything else? MR. OCHS: No, sir. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller for a final comment. COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes. I have a very sad announcement. Nick Hale passed away. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I don't know what to say. But I think we need to remember him. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Hale was a -- in case you did not know him, and I also had a little tear in my eye earlier. Commission Hiller was not in commission chambers in her office at that time when I got the news, but Mr. Hale was a very prominent World War II veteran in the community. He was often present at all the patriotic events and special occasions honoring veterans in the community. And he was also featured in numerous stories in the Naples Daily News and I believe in Gulfshore Life and others, telling his stories of his service. So he was an extraordinary man who was amazingly sharp well into his days. I mean, he was just sharp as a tack. And, you know, he used to participate in almost everything. So we will miss him. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I want to say that he was also heavily involved with Collier County government and was an adviser to many commissioners over many years. And he was the one who brought me to public service. Page 53 September 10, 2015 CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, we're going to miss him. He was really a special man. COMMISSIONER HILLER: And he was actually part of the Nuremberg trials. CHAIRMAN NANCE: Not one to mince words. COMMISSIONER HILLER: He was the one who actually was the one who was responsible for the Nazi prisoners. It's really sad. CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, if there's no other business for the good of the county, we will call the budget hearing closed. Page 54 September 10, 2015 There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 6:39 p.m. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS CONTROL re,afice_ TIM NANCE, CHAIRMAN ATTEST: DWIGHT E. BROCK, CLERK Attest as to Cha 'S signature only. These minutes approved by the Board on ( Pj' l , as presented l/ or as corrected Transcript prepared on behalf of Gregory Reporting Service, Inc., by Cherie' R. Nottingham. Page 55