BCC Minutes 12/07/2001 S (Tourism Contracts)December 7, 2001
SPECIAL MEETING OF December 7, 2001
OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:35 a.m. In SPECIAL
SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
JAMES D. CARTER, PH.D
JIM COLETTA
DONNA FIALA
TOM HENNING
FRED COYLE
ALSO PRESENT:
TOM OLLIFF, County Manager
DAVID WEIGEL, County Attorney
JIM MUDD, Deputy County Manager
SUE FILSON, BCC Administration
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FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT LOCATED AT 3301 EAST
TAMIAMI TRAIL, NAPLE S, FLORIDA, 34112, (941) 774-8380; ASSISTED
LISTENING DEVICES FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED ARE AVAILABLE IN
THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' OFFICE.
1. Pledge of Allegiance
Consideration of approval of tourism contracts as recommended by the Tourism
Alliance
3. Adjourn.
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(The following proceedings commenced, Commissioner Carter
not being present:)
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Please stand for the Pledge
of Allegiance. And, Jim, would you go ahead and throw the magic
button down there?
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Good morning. Good
morning, one and all. Dr. Carter will be here in a short while.
Meanwhile, I'll start the meeting.
This is an emergency meeting of the Collier County
Commission regarding the tourist tax money that we're looking for
for emergency advertising. Go ahead, John.
MR. DUNNUCK: Well, I think you pretty much summarized it.
Thank you, Commissioners, for being here this morning and taking
time out of your schedule. We really appreciate it.
What you have before you is one agreement that we're bringing
forward. And it's an agreement with Kell -- Kelly, Swafford, Roy,
Incorporated (phonetic), which is the marketing firm that previously
was under a contract with the tourism alliance. In an effort to -- to
clean up the program and follow the attorney general's opinion, we
have -- we have taken this contract and -- and put it before the Board
of County Commissioners directly as a way of ensuring the
accountability is fulfilled and that we are doing it in a more efficient
manner.
In this case they will directly report through staff, well, the -- the
work in the advisory capacity with the tourism alliance on what the
marketing program is, which has been previously agreed to, but that
the invoicing and everything will come through staff and the county
directly. We think it's an efficiency plan, and we're recommending
approval.
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: And this is the
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recommendations of Dwight Brock's office, and this satisfies his
requirements too?
MR. DUNNUCK: Correct.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I --
MR. DUNNUCK: Go ahead.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'd just like to say this is an
important -- important issue to be passed immediately because the
other counties all have a leg up on us around Florida, and I would
like to see this go through, so I'd like to make a motion that we
approve this.
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: We have a motion. Do I
have a second?
MS. FILSON: We have a speaker.
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Oh, we have a speaker?
Well, we'll get the second first; then we'll go on to the speaker.
Do we have a second? I'll second it, if you have some
hesitation.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes. I need to ask some questions
about it.
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: No. We -- we just want to
get the issue out front so we can hear from the speakers and start a
discussion and, also, to keep in mind that the commission now has
this on the -- as a first and second for approval. So if-- for any
reason if you wish to waive after one or two people speak, we'll
continue and go forward from there. First speaker is -- MS. FILSON: Dawn Jantsch.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Dawn, good morning.
MS. JANTSCH: Good morning. It's nice to see you at this
emergency meeting. Sorry that it had to be called.
Dawn Jantsch, for the record, representing the Naples Area
Chamber of Commerce, the largest business organization in
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Southwest Florida.
I'm just going to throw a couple numbers at you this morning
just briefly. According to the Collier County budget, 9,000 --
9,666,000 was budgeted to be raised by the tourist tax for fiscal year
2002. You know that's raised by hotels, motels, and short-term
rentals. Of that 70 percent pays for beach renourishment. Thirty
percent is split amongst the events museums with a -- 1.4 million
going for tourism advertising. That's a low figure compared to what
the other counties are spending.
The sales tax revenue forecasted for the county budget was 27
million, over 27 million, representing the second largest source of
operating revenue for the county. In a forecast of that county
revenue, it was estimated by noted economist, Hank Fishkind of
Fishkind & Associates, this past summer that tourists contribute
26.41 percent. Boy, you know that figure by heart, don't you?
Tourists contribute 26.41 percent of that -- our sales tax dollar
revenues. Okay. This budget is starting to look a little scary, isn't it?
On another note, gas taxes were expected to be over 16 million.
The tourism tax revenue was down, according to your budget office,
36.1 percent for the September receipts. That was reported in
October. It was down 36.1 percent.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: For Collier County?
MS. JANTSCH: Yes, ma'am.
The revenue raised for October reported for November was
down 20.8 percent. It's obvious that our community is being affected
and that this has become not just tourism but a health, safety, and
welfare issue for our county. I urge you to pass these contracts today.
We expect that there will be some changes in the furore. There
is a visioning process that has begun. It's been discussed among
several groups, and we do plan to see many changes. But the
emergency stares right now is that we have not had any advertising
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since September. We are the only county based on tourism that has
not had any advertising from September.
Mack Chaundry (phonetic) was -- from Marriott was telling me
yesterday that he was in New York, and he was embarrassed that
three days after New York had advertising after September 1 lth.
And they were laughing that Collier County did not.
Our whole economy is based on tourism. I urge you to pass
these contracts today, and I'll be meeting with you again on the
visioning process in the future, as will many others, I'm sure.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you, Dawn.
Jim, I'd like to mention, just so it's on the record, I've talked with
a few people in the tourism industry. I come from the tourism
industry, so I probably have a little closer feeling to this than -- than
maybe other people would. And I know that the counties, in their
emergency funds -- and, of course, you-all know that we have this
emergency fund set aside and the TDC funds just for a situation like
this, to advertise. And the other counties who also have a emergency
fund have jumped right in there and gotten that thing going and in --
in many cases started advertising already for the dry business in
October. And here it is in December, and we're still here. So I'm --
I'm hoping that we move this forward.
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Another speaker?
MS. FILSON: That was the last speaker.
ACTING CHAIRMAN COLETTA: Okay. Commissioner
Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Does the staff have anything to
say about this other than what's in the executive summary?
MR. DUNNUCK: No. From the perspective of this and this
agreement we have before you today with KSR, we are very much in
support. And I personally had a meeting with the tourism alliance the
other day, and I think we all recognize that from a process standpoint
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we need to make some changes. And they committed through --
through a recommendation there that they're willing to make that
change and work with staff over the next couple of months so that we
can improve this program and the responsiveness of it. You will also
-- and I'm not sure Miss Jantsch is aware; the other three agreements
will be coming to the Board of County Commissioners on Tuesday.
They were less critical of nature, but we wanted to make sure from a
marketing standpoint we got this one rolling. That's pretty much
where we are with it. We're recommending approval of this
agreement.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Well, I -- I don't intend to stand in
the way of your approval. I think we need to do -- get the advertising
started. And I think it's unfortunate that we haven't done so before,
but I -- I -- I'm not in the tourism business, and I don't know anything
about it.
(Commissioner Carter entered the room.)
COMMISSIONER COYLE: So I'd just like to share my -- my
opinion. And then maybe you can do whatever you want to do with
it because I really am not an expert in this area. But I've been doing a
lot of flying recently, and I see some of the crowds coming back on
the airplanes. But most of the people are staying away, I think, not
because they don't know about Naples. They're staying away because
they're terrified of flying. And the airline industry really hasn't done
a lot to reassure them. And I -- I think that it makes a lot of sense if
-- if you -- if you really want to establish that -- reestablish that
traveling public fly -- people flying in here, we need to deal with their
fears, and -- and one of the ways of doing that is to target affinity
groups. People get on a charter aircraft or on a aircraft that we get --
you get from a major airline, which you can book entirely with
people they know and people they feel comfortable traveling with.
And I'd be really surprised if you couldn't book up a lot of charter
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aircraft that way if you target the affinity groups in specific portions
of the country. So -- you know, my -- my only concern with this is
that we are confronted with extraordinary circumstances, and we are
approaching the solution pretty much in the same way we've always
approached the advertising for-- for tourism.
And with respect to the driving public, we, again, are competing
with-- with dozens, if not hundreds, of other communities who are
going after that same public. And I -- I -- I hope this will produce
results. I personally am not convinced it will do so.
So I would encourage you to -- to take a look at some innovative
-- some more innovative ideas. I know you've had some innovative
ideas. But take a look at some more innovative ideas to see if we
can't find a more cost-effective way of reestablishing the tourist trade
here in Collier County. And with that, I would wholeheartedly
support the contract.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I think we'll have some interesting
things come to light on Tuesday, too.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay. Good.
CHAIRMAN CARTER: Commissioner Coletta has been
running your meeting. After listening to Steve Forbes this morning,
I'm encouraged.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'd like to hear what he has to say.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I wouldn't make that leap.
CHAIRMAN CARTER: Well, it was a good meeting. But you
got the motion for approval? You have a second?
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: We have -- we do.
CHAIRMAN CARTER:
board members?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN CARTER:
we have public comment?
Any further discussion among the
Any further comments by staff, or do
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COMMISSIONER COLETTA:
that.
CHAIRMAN CARTER:
in favor signify by saying aye.
(Unanimous response.)
CHAIRMAN CARTER:
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN CARTER: The motion carries 4-0.
business in front of us, Mr. Dunnuck?
MR. DUNNUCK: No, thank you.
CHAIRMAN CARTER:
Hasse Park.
We've already been through
You've been through that. Okay. All
Opposed by the same sign.
Any other
We're off to the dedication of Max
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 9:45 a.m.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
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