BCC Minutes 09/08/2015 R BCC
REGULAR
MEETING
MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 8, 2015
September 8, 2015
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, September 8, 2015
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the
Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such special
districts as have been created according to law and having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in REGULAR SESSION
in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida,
with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Tim Nance
Donna Fiala
Tom Henning
Georgia Hiller
Penny Taylor
ALSO PRESENT:
Leo E. Ochs, Jr., County Manager
Nick Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager
Jeffrey Klatzkow, County Attorney
Crystal Kinzel, Office of the Clerk of Courts
Troy Miller, Communications & Customer Relations
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COLLIER COUNTY
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AGENDA
Board of County Commission Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3rd Floor
Naples FL 34112
September 08, 2015
9:00 AM
Commissioner Tim Nance, District 5— BCC Chair
Commissioner Donna Fiala, District 1 —BCC Vice-Chair; CRA Chair
Commissioner Georgia Hiller, District 2 — Community & Economic Dev. Chair
Commissioner Tom Henning, District 3 — PSCC Vice-Chair
Commissioner Penny Taylor, District 4— TDC Chair; CRA Vice-Chair
NOTICE: ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS MUST
REGISTER PRIOR TO PRESENTATION OF THE AGENDA ITEM TO BE
ADDRESSED. ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL RECEIVE UP TO THREE
(3) MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS ADJUSTED BY THE CHAIRMAN.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE CURRENT OR
FUTURE AGENDA TO BE HEARD NO SOONER THAN 1:00 P.M., OR AT THE
CONCLUSION OF THE AGENDA; WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST.
REQUESTS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON SUBJECTS WHICH ARE NOT ON
THIS AGENDA MUST BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING WITH EXPLANATION
TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AT LEAST 13 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF
THE MEETING AND WILL BE HEARD UNDER "PUBLIC PETITIONS."
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PUBLIC PETITIONS ARE LIMITED TO THE PRESENTER, WITH A
MAXIMUM TIME OF TEN MINUTES.
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD
WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING PERTAINING THERETO,
AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD
OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE
TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
COLLIER COUNTY ORDINANCE NO. 2003-53 AS AMENDED BY
ORDINANCE 2004-05 AND 2007-24, REQUIRES THAT ALL LOBBYISTS
SHALL, BEFORE ENGAGING IN ANY LOBBYING ACTIVITIES (INCLUDING
BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ADDRESSING THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS), REGISTER WITH THE CLERK TO THE BOARD AT THE
BOARD MINUTES AND RECORDS DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU ARE A PERSON WITH A DISABILITY WHO NEEDS ANY
ACCOMMODATION IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCEEDING,
YOU ARE ENTITLED, AT NO COST TO YOU, THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN
ASSISTANCE. PLEASE CONTACT THE COLLIER COUNTY FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT DIVISION LOCATED AT 3335 EAST TAMIAMI TRAIL,
SUITE 1, NAPLES, FLORIDA, 34112-5356, (239) 252-8380; ASSISTED
LISTENING DEVICES FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED ARE AVAILABLE IN
THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
LUNCH RECESS SCHEDULED FOR 12:00 NOON TO 1:00 P.M.
1. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A. Reverend Beverly Duncan - Naples United Church of Christ
2. AGENDA AND MINUTES
A. Approval of today's regular, consent and summary agenda as amended (Ex
Parte Disclosure provided by Commission members for consent agenda.)
B. June 23, 2015 - BCC/Regular Meeting Minutes
C. June 25, 2015 - BCC/Budget Workshop
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D. July 7, 2015 - BCC/Regular Meeting Minutes
E. July 20, 2015 - BCC/Special Meeting Minutes
3. SERVICE AWARDS - EMPLOYEE
A. 20 Year Attendees
1) Marcia Kendall-Development Review
2) Gregory Yanda-Wastewater
B. 25 Year Attendees
1) Ivette Monroig-Development Review
C. 30 Year Attendees
1) Nancy Frye-Traffic Operations
2) David Weeks-Comprehensive Planning
4. PROCLAMATIONS
A. Proclamation designating September 7-11, 2015 as "2015 Industry
Appreciation Week." To be accepted by John Cox, President and CEO, The
Greater Naples Chamber of Commerce; Kristi Bartlett, Vice President,
Opportunity Naples, The Greater Naples Chamber of Commerce; Julie
Schmelzle, Chairman, Opportunity Naples; and Opportunity Naples Board
members.
B. Proclamation recognizing the United Way of Collier County for their
outstanding contributions to the community and to wish them yet another
year of great success as they kick off the 2015-2016 campaign. To be
accepted by Steve Carrell, Public Services Department Head; Hailey
Alonso, Operations Analyst; Steve Sanderson, United Way Executive
Director; Brandon Box, United Way Board Member; Ann Bares, Vice
President of Volunteer Engagement for the United Way; and United Way
board members.
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C. Proclamation designating September 13, 2015 as "Stuff the Bus Day," in
recognition of a community effort to "Stuff the Bus" with non-perishable
food to replenish the local food bank and feed the hungry in Collier County.
To be accepted by Steve Carnell, Public Services Department Head;
Michelle Arnold, Public Transit and Neighborhood Engagement Division
Director; Corine C. Williams, Collier County Public Transit Manager; Joyce
H. Jacobs, Harry Chapin Food Bank Associate Director; Karole Davis,
Manager with Harry Chapin Food Bank; Tony Velez, Publix; Steve
Sanderson, United Way Executive Director; Brandon Box, United Way
Board Member and Ann Bares, United Way Vice President of Volunteer
Engagement.
D. Proclamation designating September 21-25, 2015 as "Injury Prevention
Week" in Collier County, further honoring the Collier Injury Prevention
Coalition for its dedication and service to bringing awareness to this cause.
To be accepted by Keith Dameron, Chairman of the Collier Injury
Prevention Coalition.
E. Proclamation honoring the work and contributions of the Collier County
One Hundred Club and its dedication to care for our first responders and
their families. To be accepted by Pat O'Connor, President of The Collier
County One Hundred Club, and Scott Salley, Collier County One Hundred
Club Board Member.
5. PRESENTATIONS
A. Presentation of the Collier County Business of the Month for September
2015 to the Seminole Casino Hotel Immokalee. To be accepted by Tony
Alves, General Manager, Seminole Casino Hotel Immokalee; Jim Gibson,
Director of Marketing, Seminole Casino Hotel Immokalee; Cathy Baker,
Advertising and PR Manager, Seminole Casino Hotel Immokalee; Kristi
Bartlett, Vice President, Opportunity Naples, The Greater Naples Chamber
of Commerce; and Andrea Sturzenegger, Vice President, Membership and
Marketing, The Greater Naples Chamber of Commerce.
6. PUBLIC PETITIONS
A. Public Petition request from Neil Dorrill requesting that the Board of County
Commissioners direct staff to measure the public interest in creating a taxing
district for a potential water project in the Pine Ridge community.
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Item #7 to be heard no sooner than 1:00 pm unless otherwise noted.
7. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE CURRENT
OR FUTURE AGENDA
Items #8 and#9 to be heard no sooner than 1:30 pm unless otherwise noted.
8. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
9. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Recommendation to consider Adoption of an Ordinance establishing the
Winding Cypress Community Development District (CDD) pursuant to
Section 190.005, Florida Statutes.
10. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
A. Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners direct staff to
solicit proposals from qualified firms and approve funding to update the Jail
Master Plan. (Commissioner Henning)
B. Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners approves adding
an agenda item to the September 10, 2015 legislative workshop for the
Conservancy of Southwest Florida to present a ten minute informational
presentation proposing environmentally responsible legislative priorities for
consideration in the 2016 legislative session. (Commissioner Taylor)
11. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT
A. Recommendation to approve an Interlocal Agreement with Greater Naples
Fire Rescue District to provide fire services to the Isles of Capri Fire District
and to support legislation to annex the Isles of Capri Fire District and Collier
County Fire District (District One) into the Greater Naples Fire Rescue
District. (Len Golden Price, Administrative Services)
B. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to consider the North Collier
Fire Control and Rescue District's request to expand their service area to
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include the former Big Corkscrew Island Fire Control and Rescue District;
renew the annual Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity (COPCN)
for non-transport Advanced Life Support (ALS) services; and, if the service
area is expanded, approve an Amendment to the Interlocal Agreement
Advanced Life Support Partnership Between Collier County and Big
Corkscrew Island Fire Control and Rescue District. (Dan E. Summers,
Director of Bureau of Emergency Services)
C. Recommendation to approve the award of RFP #15-6424, Management
Services Contract for the Collier Area Transit (CAT) Fixed Route and
Paratransit Programs, to Medical Transportation Management, Inc. dba
Southeast MTM, Inc. (MTM) for Scheduling and Dispatch Services and to
MV Transportation, Inc. for Transit Operation Services in the aggregate
amount of$6,439,091 for FY16. (Michelle Arnold, Public Transit and
Neighborhood Enhancement Division)
D. Recommendation to approve a scope of work and an out-of-cycle Collier
County Tourist Development Council Category "A" Grant Application for
improvements to Clam Pass Beach Park for Fiscal Year 2015/2016 in the
total amount of$1,160,000, to authorize necessary budget amendment and to
make the finding that this expenditure promotes tourism. (Barry Williams,
Parks and Recreation Division Director)
E. Recommendation to award Request for Quote #15-6511, "Public Utilities
Term Loan," to Bank of America, N.A. as the qualified financial institution
to provide a fixed interest rate, non-bank qualified term loan, in an amount
not to exceed $18,000,000, to provide partial refunding of the Collier
County Water-Sewer District's Water and Sewer Revenue Bonds, Series
2006, to achieve debt service savings of approximately $1.18 million. (Joe
Bellone, Public Utilities Department Director)
F. Recommendation to consider a request from the Southwest Florida Regional
Planning Council (SWFRPC) for a onetime assessment to fund a loan
balloon payment for the real property at their headquarters. (Nick
Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager)
12. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
13. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
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14. AIRPORT AUTHORITY AND/OR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY
A. AIRPORT
B. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
1) Recommendation for the CRA (Community Redevelopment Agency)
Board to review and discuss options to market and sell, or develop
through a public-private partnership, the CRA-owned property
identified in the Redevelopment Plan for development of a catalyst
project and provide the proper authorizations to facilitate the same.
15. STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Current BCC Workshop Schedule
16. CONSENT AGENDA - All matters listed under this item are considered to be
routine and action will be taken by one motion without separate discussion of each
item. If discussion is desired by a member of the Board, that item(s) will be removed
from the Consent Agenda and considered separately.
A. GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a
Performance Bond in the amount of$2,981,600 which was posted as a
development guaranty for an Early Work Authorization (EWA)
(PL20120001253) for work associated with Esplanade Golf and
Country Club.
2) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a
Performance Bond in the amount of$419,280 which was posted as a
guaranty for Excavation Permit Number 60.082-1, (PL20120002539)
for work associated with Esplanade at Hacienda Lakes, Phase One.
3) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a
Performance Bond in the amount of$430,080 on behalf of Barron
Collier Investments, LTD., pursuant to applicable provisions of the
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Environmental Restoration and Maintenance (ERM) Transfer of
Development Rights (TDR) bonus credit requirements associated to
PL20130001998.
4) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a
Performance Bond in the amount of$795,600 which was posted as a
guaranty for Excavation Permit Number 59.375-4, PL20130002036
for work associated with Oyster Harbor at Fiddler's Creek, Phase 1.
5) Recommendation to authorize the Clerk of Courts to release a Cash
Bond in the amount of$16,000 which was posted as a development
guaranty for an Early Work Authorization (EWA) (PL20150000956)
for work associated with Mercedes-Benz North Naples.
6) Recommendation to grant final approval of the landscaping
improvements for the final plats of Reflection Lakes at Naples Phases
3F (AR-7826) Phase 3G (AR-7776), Phase 3H (AR-7777) and Phase
3K (AR-7827) and authorizing the release of the maintenance
securities.
7) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the final plat of Winding Cypress Unit 3,
(Application Number PL20150000444) approval of the standard form
Construction and Maintenance Agreement and approval of the amount
of the performance security.
8) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the minor final plat of Spanish Oaks,
Application Number 2015000859.
9) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the minor final plat of Artesia Naples, Phase
3A, Application Number PL20150001403.
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10) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the final plat of Wing South Airpark Extension,
(Application Number PL20150001055) approval of the standard form
Construction and Maintenance Agreement and approval of the amount
of the performance security.
11) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the final plat of Estilo Acres, (Application
Number PL20130002583) approval of the standard form Construction
and Maintenance Agreement and approval of the amount of the
performance security.
12) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the final plat of Montiano, (Application
Number PL20140002750) approval of the standard form Construction
and Maintenance Agreement and approval of the amount of the
performance security.
13) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the final plat of Esplanade Golf and Country
Club of Naples Blocks "D", "F" and "H", (Application Number
PL20150001102) approval of the standard form Construction and
Maintenance Agreement and approval of the amount of the
performance security.
14) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the final plat of Isles of Collier Preserve Phase
6, (Application Number PL20150000492) approval of the standard
form Construction and Maintenance Agreement and approval of the
amount of the performance security.
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15) Recommendation to grant final approval of the public roadway and
drainage improvements for the final plats of Riverwood East, Plat
Book 13, Page 13, Riverwood East Unit No. 2, Plat Book 13 Page
112, Riverwood East Unit No. 3, Plat Book 14, Page 90, Riverwood
Unit Two, Plat Book 10, Page 90, and acceptance of the maintenance
responsibility for these improvements within the public rights-of-way.
16) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the privately owned
water and sewer utility facilities for Royal Palm Academy,
PL20140000390, and to authorize the County Manager, or his
designee, to release the Utilities Performance Security (UPS) and
Final Obligation Bond in the total amount of$10,748.67 to the Project
Engineer or the Developer's designated agent.
17) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the water and sewer
utility facilities for Vercelli Phase 2, PL20120002526, and to
authorize the County Manager, or his designee, to release the Final
Obligation Bond in the total amount of$4,000 to the Project Engineer
or the Developer's designated agent.
18) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the privately owned
water and sewer utility facilities for Treviso Bay - Di Napoli,
PL20120002541, and to authorize the County Manager, or his
designee, to release the Utilities Performance Security (UPS) and
Final Obligation Bond in the total amount of$10,673.47 to the Project
Engineer or the Developer's designated agent.
19) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign two
Utility Facilities Quit-Claim Deed and Bill of Sale between Collier
County and Wentworth Estates Community Development District
(CDD) , in order to reconvey to the CDD all irrigation utility facilities
associated with the development projects at Vercelli,
PL20130002056, and Lipari-Ponziane, PL20130002052, which were
previously erroneously conveyed to the County.
20) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign a
Collier County Landscape Maintenance Agreement (Agreement)
between Collier County and the Marabella Isles Homeowners
Association, Inc. for landscape improvements within the Livingston
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Road Public Right-of-Way.
21) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign a
Collier County Landscape Maintenance Agreement (Agreement)
between Collier County and the Sienna Reserve Homeowners
Association, Inc. for a landscape planting within the Livingston Road
right-of-way.
22) Recommendation to approve a budget amendment in the amount of
$147,071 transferring funds from Water Pollution Control Fund 114
Reserves to the FY15 Operating Expense Budget of Fund 114 to
purchase a replacement Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass
Spectrometer. This action will result in no impact to the General
Fund.
23) Recommendation to approve the release of(2) code enforcement liens
with a combined accrued value of$185,183.11 for payment of
$2,283.11, in the code enforcement actions entitled Board of County
Commissioners v. Jerry Delashment et ux., Code Enforcement Special
Magistrate Case Nos. CESD20130003907 and CEPM20130003856,
relating to property located at 1391 13th Avenue N., Collier County,
Florida.
24) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
with an accrued value of$24,515.18 for payment of$565.18, in the
code enforcement action entitled Board of County Commissioners v.
Gregory Westgate, Code Enforcement Special Magistrate Case No.
CEROW20120004308, relating to property located at 129 4th Street,
Collier County, Florida.
25) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
with an accrued value of$96,979.28 for payment of$679.28, in the
code enforcement action entitled Board of County Commissioners v.
Hector Oroso and Jacqui Hamilton, Code Enforcement Special
Magistrate Case No. CEPM20130011657, relating to property located
at 3043 44th St. SW, Collier County, Florida.
26) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
with an accrued value of$11,739.49 for payment of$1,439.49, in the
code enforcement action entitled Board of County Commissioners v.
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Bryon Goldizen and Stephanie Goldizen, Code Enforcement Special
Magistrate Case No. CEPM20090015934, relating to property located
3036 Olde Cove Way, Collier County, Florida.
27) Recommendation to approve the release of two (2) code enforcement
liens with a combined accrued value of$570,563.75 for payment of
$1,013.75, in the code enforcement actions entitled Board of County
Commissioners v. Teresita Pino, Code Enforcement Special
Magistrate Case No. CEPM20130008117 and Code Enforcement
Board Case No. CEPM20140000021, relating to property located at
4261 1st Avenue SW, Collier County, Florida.
28) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
with an accrued value of$80,780 for payment of$530, in the code
enforcement action entitled Board of County Commissioners v. VP
Office Holdings, LLC, Code Enforcement Board Case No.
CESD20120000116, relating to property located at 2244 Venetian
Court (Folio No. 00237600008), Collier County, Florida.
29) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
with an accrued value of$247,080.57 for payment of$530.57, in the
code enforcement action entitled Board of County Commissioners v.
Maykol Calderon, Code Enforcement Board Case No.
CESD20110009230, relating to property located at 1281 27th Street
SW, Collier County, Florida.
30) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
and duplicate lien with an accrued value of$161,512.29 for payment
of$1,112.29, in the code enforcement action entitled Board of County
Commissioners v. Jorge Hernandez, Code Enforcement Special
Magistrate Case No. CESD20110001314, relating to property located
at 185 31st Street NW, Collier County, Florida.
31) Recommendation to approve the release of a code enforcement lien
with an accrued value of$37,500, in the code enforcement action
entitled Board of County Commissioners v. J. Peaceful, L.C., Code
Enforcement Board Case No. CESD20090012961, relating to
property located at 7770 Preserve Lane, Collier County, Florida.
32) Recommendation to award Bid #15-6445 to Traffic Control Products
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of Florida for the "Advance Intersection Signs" project, pursuant to a
Board approved Local Agency Program Agreement (LAP) with the
Florida Department of Transportation, in the amount of$327,143
(Project #33335).
33) Recommendation to approve an Easement Agreement authorizing
purchase and acceptance of a Drainage, Access, and Maintenance
Easement (Parcel 259DAME) and a Temporary Construction
Easement (Parcel 259TCE) required for the construction of storm
water improvements known as the Wing South segment of the Lely
Area Stormwater Improvement Project. (Project No. 51101.)
Estimated Fiscal Impact: $505,150.
34) Recommendation to approve final acceptance and accept
unconditional conveyance of the potable water utility facilities for
Piacere (Lot 18), PL20130001695, and to authorize the County
Manager, or his designee, to release the Utilities Performance Security
(UPS) and Final Obligation Bond in the total amount of$5,193.88 to
the Project Engineer or the Developer's designated agent.
35) Recommendation to grant final approval of the private roadway and
drainage improvements for the final plat of Copper Cove Preserve
Application Number AR-7528 with the roadway and drainage
improvements being privately maintained and authorizing the release
of the maintenance security.
36) Recommendation to approve and execute a Local Agency Program
Agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation in which
Collier County would be reimbursed up to $331,363 for the
construction and construction engineering inspection of intersection
improvements on Golden Gate Parkway at Livingston Road and to
authorize the necessary budget amendment. (Project #33431)
37) Recommendation to delegate to the County Manager or his designee
the authority to execute Excavation, Early Work Authorization, and
Site Development Plan Performance Agreements on behalf of the
Board of County Commissioners.
38) Recommendation to approve Change Order No. 4 to Contract No. 12-
5901 in the amount of$259,946.47 with Atkins North America, Inc.,
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for Construction, Engineering and Inspection (CEI Services) for the
US 41 & SRJCR 951 Intersection Improvements and SR 951 3R
Improvements (the Project); Project No. 60116.
39) This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve for recording the minor final plat of Del Webb Naples Parcel
102, Phase 1 Replat, Application Number PL20150001299.
40) Recommendation to approve final acceptance and unconditional
conveyance of the water and sewer utility facilities for Marbella
Lakes, PL20110001959, and to authorize the County Manager, or his
designee, to release the Final Acceptance Obligations Bond in the
total amount of$4,000 to the Project Engineer or the Developer's
designated agent.
41) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the privately owned
water and sewer utility facilities for Greenlinks Golf Villas (aka
Double Tee Golf Resort), PL20110002546, and to authorize the
County Manager, or his designee, to release the Utilities Performance
Security (UPS) in the total amount of$30,898.20 to the Project
Engineer or the Developer's designated agent.
42) Recommendation to approve easement agreements for the purchase of
a Road Right-of-Way, Drainage and Utility Easement (Parcel
117RDUE) and a Temporary Bridge Construction Easement (Parcel
117TCE) required for the construction of a replacement bridge on
White Boulevard over the Cypress Canal. (Transportation Bridge
Replacement Program Project No. 66066.) Estimated fiscal impact:
$6,530.
43) Recommendation to grant final approval of the public roadway and
drainage improvements within the portions of those roadways
described in those Quit Claim Deeds recorded in Official Record OR
Book 1099, Page 365 and OR Book 1099, Page 366 of the public
records, and acceptance of the maintenance responsibility for the
improvements.
44) Recommendation to award and authorize the chairman to sign
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Contract #15-6452, Modeling Services for Surface Water and
Groundwater Management to Lago Consulting & Services, LLC for
professional surface water and groundwater modeling services for the
protection of existing wellfields and future groundwater resources for
a not to exceed amount of$216,892.50.
45) Recommendation to provide after-the-fact approval for the submittal
of a 2015 Regional Coastal Resilience Grant application sponsored by
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in the
amount of$1,373,734 for Phase 1 of the Naples Park Area
Stormwater Improvement Project.
46) Recommendation to authorize budget amendments to recognize
revenue and transfer funding for projects within Transportation
Capital Fund (313) (Projects #69081, #60088, #60066 and #68056.)
47) Recommendation to approve an easement agreement for the purchase
of a Drainage and Utility Easement (Parcel 103DUE) required for the
construction of drainage and utility improvements at the intersection
of Lake Trafford Road (CR 890) and North 19th Street in Immokalee.
(Intersection Improvement Project No. 60016.) Estimated fiscal
impact: $5,400.
48) Recommendation to approve Amendment No. 02 to Agreement
4600002912 between Collier County and South Florida Water
Management District (SFWMD), which modifies the due date for
Task 3: Final Construction Completion Report to September 30, 2015
for the 28th Avenue SE Bridge, Project No. 60123.
49) Recommendation to provide after-the-fact approval for the submittal
of a 2015 Regional Coastal Resilience Grant application sponsored by
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in the
amount of$1,118,340 for the Griffin Road Stormwater Improvement
Project.
50) Recommendation to approve Easement Agreement for the purchase of
a Road Right-of-Way, Drainage and Utility Easement (Parcel
123RDUE) required for the construction of a replacement bridge on
White Boulevard over the Cypress Canal. (Transportation Bridge
Replacement Program Project No. 66066.) Estimated fiscal impact:
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$3,600.
51) Recommendation to approve the fourth amendment to the cooperative
agreement with the South Florida Water Management District,
Agreement No. C-11759, regarding operation and maintenance of
designated primary watercourses in Collier County and to approve the
granting of an easement for the transfer of operational control and
maintenance of a portion of the Cocohatchee Canal to be relocated
and a portion of the CR 951 Canal to be extended
B. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
1) Recommendation to approve an agreement between Collier County
and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development to
accept Community Development Block Grant funds in the amount of
$98,050 for the Pineland Avenue Stormwater Improvements,
authorize the Chairman of the Board to sign the grant agreement,
execute all necessary forms and authorize the necessary Budget
Amendment.
C. PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid #15-6486 "NCRWTP
Degasification Tower Packing Media Replacement" to WES
Industries, Inc. in the amount of$108,000, for the purchase of
replacement degasification tower packing media at the North County
Regional Water Treatment Plant.
2) Recommendation to approve a $325,248.15 work order, under
Request for Quotation #14-6213-36, to Quality Enterprises USA Inc.,
for the North Reverse Osmosis Wellfield Meter Replacement Project,
Project No. 70085.
3) Recommendation to approve a $291,712.34 work order under Request
for Quotation #14-6213-40, "Lower Tamiami Aquifer Wellfield
Improvements," Project Number 70085, to Quality Enterprises USA,
Inc.
4) Recommendation to approve a $672,900 work order under Request
for Quotation #14-6213-37, "Pump Replacement Isles of Capri Water
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Pump Station," Project Number 71067, to Douglas N. Higgins, Inc.,
and authorize a $600,000 budget amendment.
5) Recommendation to award bid number 15-6494 in the amount of
$967,970 to Quality Enterprises USA, Inc., for the "North County
Regional Water Treatment Plant Transfer Pump Upgrades," Project
No. 71066; and, authorize a budget amendment in the amount of
$750,000.
6) Recommendation to send a letter of support to the United States
Department of Agriculture relative to the Immokalee Water and
Sewer District's potable water pipe replacement project.
7) Recommendation to adopt a Resolution approving Special
Assessment Hardship Deferrals for certain Sewer Special
Assessments for the 2015 tax year.
D. PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to approve a Lease Agreement with the Collier
County District School Board to establish an alternate location for a
public playground and create an additional soccer field in Immokalee.
2) Recommendation to approve after-the-fact Amendments and
Attestation Statements with Area Agency on Aging for Southwest
Florida, Inc. for the Community Care for the Elderly, Alzheimer's
Disease Initiative, and Home Care for the Elderly programs to extend
the term of the agreements and ensure continuous funding for FY
2014/2015.
3) Recommendation to approve after-the-fact contracts, attestation
statements and budget to reflect actual award of the Community Care
for the Elderly, Alzheimer's Disease Initiative, and Home Care for the
Elderly grants from Area Agency on Aging for Southwest Florida,
Inc.
4) Recommendation to recognize interest earnings from State Aid to
Library Grants and approve a budget amendment in the amount of
$854.61.
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5) Recommendation to approve three revised standard Collier County
Parks and Recreation facility rental agreements to be used as form
agreements and authorize the County Manager or his designee to enter
into these agreements.
6) Recommendation to authorize a budget amendment in the amount of
$160,115.45 transferring funds from Parks and Recreation Boater
Improvement Reserves to specific boat ramp improvement projects,
all within Parks and Recreation Capital Fund 306.
7) Recommendation to approve a standard Collier County Parks and
Recreation Youth Sports Facility Use Agreement to be used as a form
agreement and authorize the County Manager or his designee to enter
into these agreements.
8) Recommendation to approve the State Housing Initiatives Partnership
(SHIP) Program Annual Reports and Local Housing Incentive
Certifications for Fiscal Years 2011/2012, 2012/2013, and interim
Fiscal Years 2013/2014 and 2014/2015 to ensure compliance with
program requirements; and approve a budget amendment in the
amount of$10,483.76.
9) Recommendation to approve the acceptance of State Housing
Initiatives Partnership (SHIP) Program FY15/16 allocation in the
amount of$1,636,466 and sign the Fiscal Year 2015-2016 Funding
Certification.
10) Recommendation to approve Budget Amendments recognizing
$455,461.89 of program income and accepting additional allocation in
the amount of$95,884 for Fiscal Years 2014/2015 for the State
Housing Initiative Partnership Program.
11) Recommendation to authorize the Chairman to execute five Landlord
Payment Agreements allowing the County to administer the Rapid
Re-Housing and Homeless Prevention Program through the County's
Emergency Solutions Grant Program.
12) Recommendation to approve the Authorizing Resolution and to
provide an after-the-fact approval for the submittal of the Shirley
Conroy Rural Area Capital Equipment Support Grant in the amount of
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$108,728 to the Florida Commission for Transportation
Disadvantaged for the procurement of one Glaval Cutaway Transit
Vehicle.
13) Recommendation to authorize the necessary budget amendments, in
the amount of$2,836,694, for the U.S. Department of Housing and
Urban Development (HUD) Fiscal Year 2015-2016 budget as
approved in the HUD Action Plan for entitlement funds and authorize
the Chairman to sign the standard HUD entitlement agreements upon
arrival.
E. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to adopt a resolution authorizing the cancellation of
2015 taxes upon a fee-simple interest in land Collier County acquired
by Warranty Deed for Conservation Collier and without monetary
compensation.
2) Recommendation to ratify Property, Casualty, Workers'
Compensation and Subrogation claim files settled and/or closed by the
Risk Management Division Director pursuant to Resolution #2004-15
for the third quarter of FY 15.
3) Recommendation to approve the purchase of Group Life insurance,
Accidental Death insurance, Long Term Disability insurance and
Short Term Disability Claims Administration Services from Aetna in
the estimated annual amount of$403,271, a savings of$194,567.
4) Recommendation to recognize interest earned by EMS County Grant
revenue and appropriate funds for a total amount of$456.42.
5) Recommendation to authorize the County Manager and staff to use
the Federal GSA schedules (i.e., Schedule 70 and 1122 Program), the
State of Florida Contracts, Agreements and Price Lists,
competitively solicited contracts by US Communities, Western
States Contracting Alliance, National Intergovernmental
Purchasing Alliance (NIPA), National Joint Powers Alliance
(NJPA) public purchasing consortiums, competitive solicitations
from State of Florida cities, counties, and other public
municipalities (i.e., Sheriff's Association; Transit Consortium Bus
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Procurement Contract; Library Purchasing Cooperative Consortium)
for the efficient purchase of goods and services for the delivery
of public services and for which funds were approved in operating
budgets; and authorize the County Manager or the designee to sign
user agreements or contracts associated with these purchases.
6) Recommendation to accept the donation of labor and materials from
the Collier Business Industry Association (CBIA) members to
improve the Golden Gate Senior Center, also known as the Old
Golden Gate Library.
7) Recommendation to approve the purchase of Liability, Automobile,
Workers Compensation, Aircraft, Airport and other insurance
coverage for FY 2016 in the annual amount of$944,837, a reduction
of$23,245.
8) Recommendation to approve an Assumption Agreement with
Craftmaster Hardware, LLC as it relates to Request for Quote (RFQ)
#13-6071 to provide Countywide locksmith, hardware, parts and
equipment for County facilities.
9) Recommendation to approve the purchase of Flood Insurance for
Fiscal Year 2016 in the estimated amount of$423,751.
10) Recommendation to award ITB #15-6474, "Medical Director (Part A)
for Collier County and Employment Physicals & Drug Testing (Part
B)" to Advance Medical Center, LLC.
11) Recommendation to recognize and appropriate revenue for Special
Services to the Facilities Management Division Cost Center and
approve all necessary Fiscal Year 2014-2015 Budget Amendments.
12) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign the
Assumption Agreement from Uni-Select USA, Inc., to IEH Auto
Parts, LLC d/b/a Auto Plus Auto Parts, as it relates to Invitations to
Bid #13-6058 "Filters for Fleet Vehicles" and #15-6380 "Original
Equipment Manufacturer and Aftermarket Parts for Fleet Parts,
Accessories, and Tools."
13) Recommendation to ratify administratively approved work order
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modifications and/or contract change orders/Amendments that do not
exceed ten percent (10%) of the current Board approved aggregate
amount or twenty percent (20%) of the current Board approved
schedule (number of days); approve modifications to the current
Board approved performance schedules; and approve surplus disposal
and revenue disbursement and other items as determined by the
County Manager or designee.
14) Recommendation to approve an Assignment of Lease of office space
at the Port of the Islands Marina from The Islands Marina, LLC and
Port of the Islands Properties, LLC to Prepmac LLC.
F. COUNTY MANAGER OPERATIONS
1) Board ratification of Summary, Consent and Emergency Agenda
Items approved by the County Manager during the Board"s scheduled
recess. (In Absentia Meeting(s) dated July 21, 2015; August 11,
2015; and August 25, 2015).
2) Recommendation to adopt a resolution approving amendments
(appropriating grants, donations, contributions or insurance proceeds)
to the Fiscal Year 2014-15 Adopted Budget.
3) Recommendation to approve a report covering budget amendments
impacting reserves and moving funds in an amount up to and
including $25,000 and $50,000, respectively.
4) Recommendation to authorize budget amendments appropriating
approximately $349,048,090.84 of unspent FY 2015 grant and project
budgets into fiscal year 2016.
5) Recommendation to approve the FY 2016 Agreement between the
Partnership for Collier's Future Economy, Inc. ("PCFE") and the
Board of County Commissioners in continued support of the
established public-private partnership designed to advance our
community's business and economic development efforts.
6) Recommendation to approve the Third Amendment to the Agreement
between Economic Incubators, Inc., the Administrative Entity for the
Business Accelerator Project, and the Board of County
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Commissioners.
7) Recommendation to approve a successor Agreement between
Economic Incubators, Inc. , the Administrative Entity for the Business
Accelerator Project, and the Board of County Commissioners for
Fiscal Year 2016 and approve necessary budget amendments.
8) Recommendation to approve the Fiscal Year 2016 Agreement
between the Southwest Florida Economic Development Alliance, Inc.
and the Board of County Commissioners.
G. AIRPORT AUTHORITY
1) Recommendation to approve the ranked list of engineering/design
professionals for Request for Proposal (RFP) #15-6382-2, "Grant
Funded Professional Services for Airports," authorize staff to
negotiate contracts with the top ranked firms for subsequent Board
approval, and make a finding that this item promotes future
development of the County's three airports.
H. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
1) Recommendation to appoint a member to Conservation Collier Land
Acquisition Advisory Committee.
2) Recommendation to appoint one member to the Collier County Public
Safety Authority.
3) Request for authorization to advertise for future consideration an
Ordinance, that effective January 1, 2016, would allow the County to
enforce the posting of public awareness signs at adult entertainment
and massage/bodywork establishments alerting employees and patrons
to remedies and protections related to human trafficking.
4) Recommendation to appoint two members to the Collier County
Citizens Corps.
5) Recommendation to reappoint two members to the Collier County
Planning Commission.
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6) That the Board of County Commissioners reimburse Commissioner
Hiller for the legal fees incurred in successfully defending against two
Ethics Complaints
MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
1) Miscellaneous Correspondence
J. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
1) Request that the Board of County Commissioners approve the use of
$500 from the Confiscated Trust Funds to support the Florida Missing
Children's Day Foundation.
2) Recommend that the Board of County Commissioners serve as the
local coordinating unit of government for the Florida Department of
Law Enforcement's Federal Fiscal Year 2015 Edward Byrne
Memorial, Justice Assistance Grant (JAG) Countywide Program and
authorize the Chairman to execute the Certification of Participation,
designate the Sheriff as the official applicant. Sheriff's office staff as
grant financial and program managers, approve the grant application
when completed, and authorize acceptance of awards and associated
budget amendments.
3) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign an
Agreement Authorizing the Collier County Sheriffs Office to have
Traffic Control Jurisdiction over Private Roads within the Banyan
Woods Master Association, Inc.
4) To record in the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners, the
check number (or other payment method), amount, payee, and
purpose for which the reference disbursements were drawn for the
periods between July 1 and August 26, 2015 pursuant to Florida
Statute 136.06 .
K. COUNTY ATTORNEY
1) Recommendation to approve a Joint Motion and Final Judgment in the
amount of$5,000 as a global settlement for Parcels 152SE and
152TCE2 in the eminent domain lawsuit styled Collier County v.
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Modelyne Jean Gilles, et al., Case No. 14-CA-764 (Collier Boulevard
Project No. 68056). (Fiscal Impact: $3,524).
2) Recommendation to approve a Joint Motion for Final Judgment in the
amount of$55,000 for full compensation as well as $8,517 in
statutory attorney's fees, expert fees and costs for Parcel 161RDUE in
the case styled Collier County v. Tara Chapin, et al., Case No.15-CA-
319 required for improvements to Golden Gate Boulevard (Project
No. 60040). Fiscal Impact: $23,822.50.
3) Recommendation to approve Amendment to Agreement for Legal
Services relating to Retention Agreement Allen, Norton & Blue, P.A.,
increasing the rates charged per hour for partners and associates.
4) Recommendation to authorize the County Attorney to advertise an
ordinance for future consideration which would amend Section
Fifteen of the Board's Purchasing Ordinance (Ordinance No. 2013-69,
as amended), to conform the County's Preference to Local Businesses
in County contracts to recent changes in Florida law.
5) Recommendation to authorize the County Attorney to advertise an
ordinance for future consideration which would amend the Board's
Meeting Ordinance (Ordinance No. 75-16, as amended), to provide
for Electronic Meetings during when a quorum of the Board is unable
to meet at the Collier County Government Center due to extraordinary
circumstances.
6) Recommendation to approve a Joint Motion and Final Judgment in the
amount of$90,000 for full compensation, as well as $13,882 in
statutory attorney's fees and expert fees, for Parcel 162RDUE in the
lawsuit styled Collier County v. Lee McCaskey a/k/a Leon
McCaskey, et al., Case No. 15-CA-152 required for roadway and
related improvements to Golden Gate Boulevard, Project No. 60040,
and approve the payment of attorney's fees for supplemental
proceedings in an amount not to exceed $5,000. (Fiscal Impact:
36,687.50)
7) Recommendation to approve a budget amendment for payment for
unanticipated litigation support services by professional real estate
appraisal experts for the Order of Taking Hearings for the Golden
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Gate Boulevard Widening Project No. 60040 in an amount not to
exceed $812.50. Fiscal Impact $812.50.
8) Recommendation to approve the attached Agreement with LexisNexis
to provide online legal research services to the County Attorney's
office, and authorize the Chairman to sign the Agreement.
9) Recommendation to authorize the County Attorney to advertise an
ordinance for future consideration which would amend Ordinance No.
1975-16, as amended, by revising the reconsideration of matters by
the Board of County Commissioners
10) Recommendation to approve and authorize the County Attorney's
Office to file an Offer of Judgment (settlement offer) to Plaintiffs
Alan and Gail Tortolani in the lawsuit styled Alan R. Tortolani and
Gail S. Tortolani v. Collier County (Case No. 14-CA-002017), now
pending in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit in and
for Collier County, Florida
17. SUMMARY AGENDA - This section is for advertised public hearings and
must meet the following criteria: 1) A recommendation for approval from
staff; 2) Unanimous recommendation for approval by the Collier County
Planning Commission or other authorizing agencies of all members present
and voting; 3) No written or oral objections to the item received by staff, the
Collier County Planning Commission, other authorizing agencies or the
Board, prior to the commencement of the BCC meeting on which the items
are scheduled to be heard; and 4) No individuals are registered to speak in
opposition to the item. For those items which are quasi-judicial in nature, all
participants must be sworn in.
A. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve Petition VAC-
PL20150001030, to disclaim, renounce and vacate the County and the public
interest in three (3) Utility Easements as shown and recorded in Official
Record Book 4101, page 701, Official Record Book 4171, page 634 &
Official Record Book 5065, page 1479 and two (2) Drainage Easements as
shown and recorded in Official Record Book 5121, page 1593 & Official
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Record Book 5121, page 1734, all in the public records of Collier County,
Florida, located in Section 7, Township 48 South, Range 26 East, Collier
County, Florida.
B. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve Petition VAC-
PL20150000772, to vacate a portion of the conservation easements as
recorded in Official Record Book 5081, Pages 3259 through 3274, of the
public records of Collier County, Florida, located in Section 30, Township
48 South, Range 26 East, Collier County, Florida.
C. Recommendation to adopt resolutions approving the preliminary assessment
rolls as the final assessment rolls and adopting same as the non-ad valorem
assessment rolls for purposes of utilizing the uniform method of collection
pursuant to Section 197.3632, Florida Statutes, for Solid Waste Municipal
Service Benefit Units, Service District No. I and Service District No. II,
Special Assessment levied against certain residential properties within the
unincorporated area of Collier County, The City of Marco Island and the
City of Everglades City pursuant to Collier County Ordinance 2005-54, as
amended. Revenues are anticipated to be $21,572,800.
D. Recommendation to adopt an Ordinance repealing Ordinance No. 2013-70
and approve a Resolution repealing Resolution 2013-292, both relating to
the La Peninsula Seawall Municipal Service Benefit Unit (MSBU), in order
to dissolve the MSBU.
E. Recommendation to adopt a resolution approving amendments
(appropriating carry forward, transfers and supplemental revenue) to the
Fiscal Year 2014-15 Adopted Budget.
18. ADJOURN
Inquiries concerning changes to the Board's Agenda should be made to the County
Manager's Office at 252-8383.
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September 8, 2015
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome back to
the Board of County Commission's general meeting schedule for
today's meeting of September 8th, 2015.
At this time for us to have an orderly meeting, I would request
that you all silence all your devices so that we don't get interrupted
during the course of our meeting. I appreciate that. It will help us have
an orderly meeting.
And please join us this morning for the invocation, which will be
presented by Reverend Beverly Duncan, the Naples United States
Church of Christ, to be followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Item #1A
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
REVEREND DUNCAN: Good morning, Commissioners, and all
others. Let us pray.
Spirit of Love, to you we lift the deliberations of this day as
matters of governance and stewardship come before this body, the
women and men who are the leaders and caretakers of Collier County.
This is in fact an awesome calling and responsibility.
So Peaceful Spirit, in the newness of this day and this season, be
present among them and guide them as they discern the way ahead.
Guide all that they say and do and shape their words and values
today and always. Keep us all strong and wise in these turbulent times
in our world, and inspire us all to take our parts that none may be
overburdened.
Creator God, so order life of public governance that our chosen
stewards may be ever more effective in showing love to you and all
people. We pray today in the name of all that is wise and holy. Amen.
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(Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
Mr. Ochs, would you kindly take us through the agenda changes
this morning, please, sir.
Item #2A
APPROVAL OF TODAY'S REGULAR, CONSENT AND
SUMMARY AGENDA AS AMENDED (EX PARTE DISCLOSURE
PROVIDED BY COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR CONSENT
AGENDA) — APPROVED AND/OR ADOPTED W/CHANGES
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. Good morning, Commissioners and
welcome back.
These are your proposed agenda changes for the Board of County
Commissioners meeting of September 8th, 2015.
First proposed change is to withdraw Item 11.C. That was a
management services contract award that has received a bid protest so
the staff needs some time to process that. Again that's Item 11.0
withdrawn at staffs request.
The next proposed change is to move Item 16.E.13 from your
consent agenda to become Item 11.G.
The next proposed change is to move item 16.F.5 to become Item
11.H. That's a partnership agreement with the Partnership for Colliers
Future Economy. That's moved at Commissioner Taylor's request.
I should back up and tell you that 16.E.13 was moved at
Commissioner Henning's request.
The next proposed change is to move Item 16.F.6 from your
consent agenda to become Item 11.1. That is an amendment to your
existing contract with Economic Incubators, the administrative entity
for your business accelerator. That's Commissioner Taylor's request.
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Next proposed change is to move Item 16.F.7 to become Item
11.J on your regular agenda. That is an agreement for fiscal year '16 to
continue the administrative entity agreement for the business
accelerator. That's moved at Commissioner Taylor's request.
The next proposed change is to move Item 16.F.8 to become Item
11.K on your regular agenda. It's a recommendation to continue the
partnership for FY 16 with the Southwest Florida Economic
Development Alliance. That is moved at Commissioner Taylor's
request.
Next proposed change is to move Item 16.E.10 to the regular
agenda to become Item 11.L. That item is moved at Commissioner
Henning's request. It's a contract for employment physicals and drug
testing.
The next proposed change is to move Item 16.J.4 from the
consent agenda to become Item 13.A. This is a report on expenditures.
And this is moved at Commissioner Fiala's request.
The next proposed change is to move Item 16.K.9. It will become
Item 12.A on your regular agenda. And this is a recommendation to
consider a change in the ordinance regarding continuation and
reconsideration of matters by the Board of County Commissioners.
That's moved at Commissioner Henning's request.
We have two time certain items requested this morning,
Commissioners. The first is Item 14.B.1 under your Community
Redevelopment area section of the agenda. That item is requested to
be heard at 11:00 a.m. That's 14.B.1. And that request comes from
Commissioner Fiala.
And then Item 16.E.13 that was previously announced as moving
to Item 11.G, that is the item that Commissioner Henning moved on
the -- having to do with changes to work orders. That is requested to
be heard at 10:00 a.m. this morning.
And I have one agenda note this morning, Commissioners. That's
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on Item 16.F.1. That was the compilation of matters approved in
absentia over the summer break. There were a couple of changes that
came on the HUD contract after that item was given preliminary
approval, and those two changes are noted on your change sheet.
And those are all the changes that I have, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
At this time we will go to Commissioners for any additional
changes and ex parte disclosure for today's consent agenda.
Commissioner Taylor, please.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No additional changes. Ex parte,
yes. I've had correspondence and calls regarding 11.B. And this is not
only taken place last week, but it's for several months now. With staff
I've spoken and also with the public.
And then correspondence and meetings and emails regarding
Winding Cypress. And that's all I've got, thank you.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, thank you very much.
I'll mention 11.B when we come to that subject. But on the
consent agenda, Item 16.A.7, which is Winding Cypress, I've had a lot
of meetings and correspondence, emails, I've met with staff, I've met
with Rich Yovanovich, Christy Hastings, Michael Hunnican
(phonetic), and I don't know that I've pronounced that correctly. I've
gotten emails from residents in the surrounding communities on that
one.
On 16.A.9, which is the Artesia, I met with Paula Springs, Kindar
Hastings, Greg Urbancic, David Caldwell and Paul Earheart. I've had
emails as well.
Let's see, we go down here to item number 16.A 14, and this is
the Isles of Collier Preserve. And I've met with Brian Cale on that one.
And then on 16.A.39, that is the Del Webb Naples parcel. I've
been invited to a few events and I've had an email from Judy Hushon
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about more impact. And was more about impact than anything else,
not the project. And I've had meetings and emails.
And let's see, I'm sorry that it's so long, but anyway, 16 -- 17.A,
which is the summary agenda, and this is the Tallis Park issue, and I've
just had meetings on that with Bruce Anderson. And I think that's it
for me.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
As for myself, I've had, on Item 11.B which is regarding the
North Collier Fire Control Rescue's request to expand service, I've had
phone calls, letters from various interested parties including the fire
control distribute, various emails which are all attached, meetings with
staff, numerous conversations with constituents.
Also, on 9.A, which is Winding Cypress, I've had a meeting with
the attorney for the petitioner and no other ex parte disclosure at this
time for me.
Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
Good morning. I have had meetings on 11.B and I have no
disclosures for any of the other items on the consent agenda.
I would like to mention one item, 16.H.3, which is on consent
under the Board of County Commissioners. I don't want to pull it but I
do want to highlight what we are going to do. I've been working very
closely with the shelter and others in the community to develop an
ordinance that stems from a statute that was recently passed by our
legislature that requires the posting of public awareness signs in strip
clubs, massage parlors and emergency rooms of hospitals to allow
people if they are aware of any human trafficking to report that to this
hotline.
So what the legislature did is gave us the power as the Board to
make that a requirement and to have enforcement authority over that
kind of signage, and this ordinance will take care of that.
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We wanted to expand it beyond those locations, and I worked
with the shelter and the County Attorney's Office, and while it appears
that we could do it, we would be the first in time, and we're going to
research it a little bit further because, you know, obviously we don't
want to violate the First Amendment on the one hand, but on the other
hand to the extent that we can post these signs in other locations where
individuals might know of human trafficking going on, the better off
we will be in fighting this heinous crime.
So I don't want to pull it but I wanted to alert you to it. It will
come back for a second reading. And if anybody has any input, feel
free to talk to me or talk to Linda or legal aid or our County Attorney
about it. It's a very positive ordinance, human trafficking.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Good morning. I have no ex
parte communication on today's summary or consent, and I'll give my
ex parte on the items on the regular agenda at that time.
As far as the one on our consent agenda, and talking to staff, I
was wondering if we can put that back on the regular agenda which is
16.E.10. That is proposed to be become 11.A.
And the recommendations would be to extend the existing
contract for 90 days and give staff direction to look at other
alternatives. Can we do that?
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. Actually what we'd like to do is extend for
90 days and negotiate with the second low bidder on that contract to
see if we can't bring back an agreement to the Board within that time
period.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay, with that said can we put
that back on the consent with the understanding that we're going to
negotiate with the second and extend the existing to 90 days?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Nods from commissioners?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Sure.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes.
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: Let's do that so we don't have to
discuss that.
With that, I'll make a motion to approve today's agenda as
amended.
MR. KLATZKOW: Commissioner Hiller, did you have
something else you wanted to say?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes. Commissioner Nance, before
we vote on the consent, I'd like to recuse myself on Item 16.H.6.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, ma'am. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second the motion.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Second.
Any comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed, like sign.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: It passes unanimously. Thank you very
much.
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Proposed Agenda Changes
Board of County Commissioners Meeting
September 8,2015
Withdraw Item 11C: Recommendation to approve the award of RFP 15-6424,Management Services
Contract for the Collier Area Transit(CAT)Fixed Route and Paratransit Programs,to Medical
Transportation Management,Inc.dba Southeast MTM,Inc.(MTM)for Scheduling and Dispatch Services
and to MV Transportation,Inc. for Transit Operation Services in the aggregate amount of$6,439,091 for
FY16. (Staff's request/Intent to Protest)
Move Item 16E13 to Item 11G: Recommendation to ratify administratively approved work order
modifications and/or contract change orders/Amendments that do not exceed ten percent(10%)of the
current Board approved aggregate amount or twenty percent(20%)of the current Board approved schedule
(number of days); approve modifications to the current Board approved performance schedules; and
approve surplus disposal and revenue disbursement and other items as determined by the County Manager
or designee. (Commissioner Henning's request)
Move Item 16F5 to Item 11H: Recommendation to approve the FY 2016 Agreement between the
Partnership for Collier's Future Economy,Inc.("PCFE")and the Board of County Commissioners in
continued support of the established public-private partnership designed to advance our community's
business and economic development efforts. (Commissioner Taylor's request)
Move Item 16F6 to Item 111: Recommendation to approve the Third Amendment to the Agreement
between Economic Incubators,Inc.,the Administrative Entity for the Business Accelerator Project,and the
Board of County Commissioners. (Commissioner Taylor's request)
Move Item 16F7 to Item 11J: Recommendation to approve a successor Agreement between Economic
Incubators,Inc.,the Administrative Entity for the Business Accelerator Project,and the Board of County
Commissioners for Fiscal Year 2016 and approve necessary budget amendments. (Commissioner Taylor's
request)
Move Item 16F8 to Item 11K: Recommendation to approve the Fiscal Year 2016 Agreement between
the Southwest Florida Economic Development Alliance,Inc.and the Board of County Commissioners.
(Commissioner Taylor's request)
Move Item 16E10 to Item 11L: Recommendation to award ITB 15-6474,"Medical Director(Part A)for
Collier County and Employment Physicals&Drug Testing(Part B)"to Advance Medical Center,LLC.
(Commissioner Henning's request)
Move Item 16J4 to Item 13A: To record in the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners,the check
number(or other payment method),amount,payee,and purpose for which the reference disbursements were
drawn for the periods between July 1 and August 26,2015 pursuant to Florida Statute 136.06.
(Commissioner Fiala's request)
Move Item 16K9 to Item 12A: Recommendation to authorize the County Attorney to advertise an
ordinance for future consideration which would amend Ordinance No. 1975-16,as amended,by revising the
reconsideration of matters by the Board of County Commissioners. (Commissioner Henning's request)
Proposed Agenda Changes
Board of County Commissioners Meeting
September 8,2015
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Time Certain Requests:
Item 1411 to be heard at 11:00 a.m.(Commissioner Fiala's request)
Note:
Item 16F1 (August 11,2015 BCC In Absentia Agenda): Based on HUD's preliminary review of Collier
County's FY2015-FY2016 Action Plan,there are two changes that need to be made to the action plan:
The following comment from the Proposed Outcome listed on project sheet CDBG15-9 should be removed:
Additionally,on page 66 under"Use of Funds Section 2.Overall Benefit"the applicable program years
should read:NIA 2015,2016,2017;
Both require the Chairman's initials.
9/8/2015 9:18 AM
it
September 8, 2015
Item #2B, #2C, #2D and #2E
MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 23, 2015 BCC REGULAR MEETING;
JUNE 25, 2015 BUDGET WORKSHOP; JULY 7, 2015 REGULAR
MEETING; AND MINUTES FROM THE JULY 20, 2015 SPECIAL
MEETING — APPROVED AS PRESENTED
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Is there any public -- excuse me, Mr.
Miller, was there any public comment on any consent items?
MR. MILLER: No, there were not, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'm sorry. Thank you, sir.
I would entertain a motion to approve the BCC regular meeting
minutes from June 23rd.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So moved.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second. Any
discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Mr. Chairman, can I just make a
motion to approve the June 25th, BCC budget workshop and the July
7th BCC regular meeting and the July 20th special meeting minutes so
we can wipe them all away. That's what Commissioner Henning
always did. He taught me that. Just get them all out of the way.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Perfect. If there's no objection, hearing
none, I will second it.
Any comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Seeing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right. Those all passed unanimously.
Thank you very much.
Item #3A
SERVICE AWARDS — 20 YEAR ATTENDEES
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, that takes us to service awards. If
the Board will be kind enough to join us in front of the dais, we'll
recognize our employees.
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, this morning we're recognizing
employees with years of service ranging from 20 to 30 years of service
to county government.
Two employees celebrating 20 years of service this morning.
The first from your Development Review Division, 20 years of
service, Marcia Kendall. Marcia?
(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Also with 20 years of service from your wastewater
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division, Gregory Yanda. Greg?
(Applause.)
Item #3B
SERVICE AWARDS — 25 YEAR ATTENDEES
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, celebrating 25 years of service this
morning from development review, Ivette Monroig. Ivette?
(Applause.)
Item #3C
SERVICE AWARDS — 30 YEAR ATTENDEES
MR. OCHS: We have two employees this morning,
Commissioners, celebrating 30 years of service to county government.
The first from traffic operations, Nancy Frye.
(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Also celebrating 30 years of service to county
government, from Comprehensive Planning, David Weeks.
David?
(Applause.)
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, before you head back to the dais,
Commissioner Taylor has a couple of other employees that she'd like
to recognize this morning.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: If you notice as you came in on
the wall where the elevator is, an incredible display of our history. We
have some staff folks here that are so responsible, got so involved with
it and gave it their heart and soul. There will be three more walls out
there by the time we finish, but it was their ideas in terms of size and
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placement, colors. It was such a collaborative effort. And so I'd like to
recognize those ones today.
First of all, and you need to come up, Ron Jamro, who provided
our history. Troy Pirosseno. And oh, please forgive me. Oh, Troy.
Helio Rojas. Don Hale. Les Gross. Jerry Shukes. John Kennedy.
Kurt Jokela. Absent. Rady Edreva. And Yuri Tarnawiecki.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: It's a very -- for this new
commissioner it is extraordinary the support and how talented your
staff is. The taxpayers of Collier County should be very proud. And
these folks are part of that team. When you ask them to do something,
they're there and they're there with their hearts and souls.
So congratulations and we're going to see more and well done on
your talent. And thank you.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And thank you for the idea of
getting it done.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, and Commissioner Hiller
and I. And we went back --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, were you a part of this? Oh, I
should have known.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Why don't we have these ladies and
gentlemen come to the center and let us join on the outside.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: They're the center of everything
here.
Item #4
PROCLAMATIONS — ONE MOTION TAKEN TO ADOPT ALL
PROCLAMATIONS
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Item #4A
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 7-11, 2015 AS
"2015 INDUSTRY APPRECIATION WEEK." ACCEPTED BY
KRISTI BARTLETT, VICE PRESIDENT, OPPORTUNITY
NAPLES, THE GREATER NAPLES CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE; JULIE SCHMELZLE, CHAIRMAN,
OPPORTUNITY NAPLES; AND OPPORTUNITY NAPLES
BOARD MEMBERS — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, that takes us to Item 4 on your
agenda this morning. That's your proclamations. Item 4.A is a
proclamation designating September 7th through 11th, 2015 as 2015
Industry Appreciation Week. To be accepted by Julie Schmelzle,
Chairman of Opportunity Naples; Kristi Bartlett, Vice President,
Opportunity Naples with the Greater Naples Chamber of Commerce,
and other Opportunity Naples board members. If you'd please step
forward and receive your proclamation.
(Applause.)
MS. SCHMELZLE: Thank you, Commissioners, for recognizing
the importance of business in our community, the industry that we
have here that we want to continue to support in thriving and growing.
So Opportunity Naples, as all of you know, have been very
involved over the past three years, and your support has been
tremendously appreciated, not only by Opportunity Naples the
partnership board, but our entire community.
So Excellence in Industry is that opportunity, that one day of the
year to celebrate industry here in Collier County. And that will be on
September 16th at the Hilton Naples from 4:30 to 6:30.
Commissioner Adam Putnam will be our key note speaker. He is
the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
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Commissioner.
We're proud to acknowledge our sponsors which are the life
blood of everything that we do. TD Bank is the title sponsor of this
year's award program. Moorings Park, Naples Daily News, our gold
sponsors. Career source of Southwest Florida, Century Link, Florida
Southwestern State College and the Arlington are silver sponsors. Our
business sponsors include Health Network of Southwest Florida, Hill,
Barth & King, Hodges University, and Naples Children and Education
Foundation.
And so as for many of you who may have attended this in the
past, I think we're going on 20 years of awardees, the winners this year
in the categories as we've defined and as the state has defined are:
Business expansion, Moorings Park. The company to watch will be
Bruno Air Conditioning. The heart of the community is Healthcare
Network of Southwest Florida. The pillar award is the Naples Beach
Hotel and Golf Club. The young professional of the year is Shayna
Short. And the chairman's award this year is the Naples Children and
Education Foundation. We hope that you'll all be there in attendance
with us on September 16th. Thank you so much for your support.
(Applause.)
Item #4B
PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE UNITED WAY OF
COLLIER COUNTY FOR THEIR OUTSTANDING
CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO WISH
THEM YET ANOTHER YEAR OF GREAT SUCCESS AS THEY
KICK OFF THE 2015-2016 CAMPAIGN. ACCEPTED BY STEVE
CARNELL, PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT HEAD; HAILEY
ALONSO, OPERATIONS ANALYST; STEVE SANDERSON,
UNITED WAY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; BRANDON BOX,
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UNITED WAY BOARD MEMBER; ANN BARES, VICE
PRESIDENT OF VOLUNTEER ENGAGEMENT FOR THE
UNITED WAY; AND UNITED WAY BOARD MEMBERS —
ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Item 4.B is a proclamation recognizing The United
Way of Collier County for their outstanding contributions to the
community and to wish them yet another year of great success as they
kick off the 2015-2016 campaign. To be accepted by Steve Carnell,
Public Services Department Head; Hailey Alonso, Operations Analyst
with our Public Services Department; Steve Sanderson, United Way
Executive Director; Brandon Box, United Way board member; Ann
Bares, Vice President of Volunteer Engagement for the United Way
and you of other United Way board members.
If you'd please step forward and receive your proclamation.
(Applause.)
MS. CONNOLLY: Good morning. I'm Kathy Connolly and I'm
very proud to serve on the United Way board of directors as the past
chair. And as mentioned, I'd be remiss if I didn't recognize Brandon
Box and certainly Steve Sanderson for all of the great work that's been
accomplished by United Way, along with as you saw so many of our
partners.
We would like to think of ourselves as the new United Way, a
community impact organization that invests in strategies for
community change and refer to our donors as investors.
Thank you Collier County Commissioners and staff, Leo Ochs
and Steve Carnell who also serves on the board and the staff team. I
especially want to thank the North Collier County Regional Park for
their continued support of the 10th annual Walk for the Way which
will be held on September 26th. And we do hope you'll join us.
United Way of Collier County helped over 100,000 of our
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neighbors in need in Collier County last year. Our work focuses on the
building blocks for good quality life, education, income stability along
with healthy and safety net services.
Beyond the core work that we do we have taken over the
administration of Collier 2-1-1, the non-emergency human services
hotline that's available to those in need 24 hours a day, seven day a
week. And last year we were able to help over 8,000 people connect
through their needs and 2-1-1.
This year we also launched a volunteer center, a Volunteer Collier
with a goal of connecting anyone who wants to volunteer in Collier
County with the right volunteer opportunity. We have already over
100 active opportunities here in this county and 165 partner agencies
or nonprofits have registered.
Our 35 partner agencies, of course many of you saw today, work
with us to transform the lives of all of our neighbors in need. We at
the United Way, we value our partnership with the county in so many
ways. Together we are building a better community in which we can
all learn and grow and live to our human potential.
I am proud to live and work in Collier County and really want to
thank all of you, our Collier County Commissioners and staff for this
recognition on behalf of The United Way. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Could you quickly tell the audience
what 2-1-1 is, in case they're not aware?
MS. CONNOLLY: Oh, absolutely. Thank you.
Collier 2-1-1 is a non-emergency number that at any time if you
dial 2-1-1 it will put you in connection with the services that you need,
health and human services.
One of the beauties of that is in partnership with the Sheriffs
Office is it allows them to focus on real emergencies and help the
community with the needs that they have. Thank you.
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Item #4C
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 13, 2015 AS
"STUFF THE BUS DAY," IN RECOGNITION OF A
COMMUNITY EFFORT TO "STUFF THE BUS" WITH NON-
PERISHABLE FOOD TO REPLENISH THE LOCAL FOOD
BANK AND FEED THE HUNGRY IN COLLIER COUNTY.
ACCEPTED BY STEVE CARNELL, PUBLIC SERVICES
DEPARTMENT HEAD; MICHELLE ARNOLD, PUBLIC
TRANSIT & NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT DIVISION
DIRECTOR; CORINE C. WILLIAMS, COLLIER COUNTY
PUBLIC TRANSIT MANAGER; JOYCE H. JACOBS, HARRY
CHAPIN FOOD BANK ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR; KAROLE
DAVIS, MANAGER WITH HARRY CHAPIN FOOD BANK;
TONY VELEZ, PUBLIX; STEVE SANDERSON, UNITED WAY
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; BRANDON BOX, UNITED WAY
BOARD MEMBER AND ANN BARES, UNITED WAY VICE
PRESIDENT OF VOLUNTEER ENGAGEMENT — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Item 4.0 is a proclamation designating September
13th, 2015 as Stuff the Bus Day in recognition of a community effort
to stuff the bus with non-perishable food to replenish the local food
bank and feed the hungry in Collier County. To be accepted by Steve
Carnell, Public Services Department Head; Michelle Arnold, Public
Transit and Neighborhood Engagement Division Director; Corine
Williams, Collier County Public Transit Manager; Joyce Jacobs, Harry
Chapin Food Bank Associate Director; Karole Davis, Manager with
Harry Chapin Food Bank; Tony Velez, Publix; Daniel Santos, Publix;
Steve Anderson, United Way Executive Director; Brandon Box,
United Way Board Member; and Ann Bares, United Way Vice
President of Volunteer Engagement.
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If you'd all please step forward and receive your proclamation.
(Applause.)
MS. DAVIS: Good morning, Commissioners. I'm Karole Davis
with Harry Chapin Food Bank right here in Collier County. In case
you all don't know, we do have a warehouse facility here.
And we are so grateful to the Collier County community. Last
year we provided over 3 million pounds of food to people in need right
here in Collier County.
We do have Stuff the Bus happening this Sunday. There are six
Publix locations that will be participating. Please visit
HarryChapinfoodbank.org for those locations. And our goal is to
replenish the empty food shelves that we have after a very busy
summer. So we thank you for your support and we'll see you Sunday
between 10:00 and 3:00 at six Publix locations. Thank you.
(Applause.)
Item #4D
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 21-25, 2015
"INJURY PREVENTION WEEK" IN COLLIER COUNTY,
FURTHER HONORING THE COLLIER INJURY PREVENTION
COALITION FOR ITS DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO
BRINGING AWARENESS TO THIS CAUSE. ACCEPTED BY
KEITH DAMERON, CHAIRMAN OF THE COLLIER INJURY
PREVENTION COALITION — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Item 4.D is a proclamation designating September
21st through the 25th, 2015 as Injury Prevention Week in Collier
County. Further honoring the Collier Injury Prevention Coalition for
its dedication and service to bringing awareness to this cause. To be
accepted by Keith Dameron, Chairman of the Collier Injury Prevention
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Council. Keith? And others.
(Applause.)
MR. DAMERON: Commissioners, on behalf of the Collier
Injury Coalition we thank you so much for this acknowledgment and
recognition of the important mission that we have embarked on in
Collier County.
I have a couple of brief closing remarks, but before we get to that
I want to thank Mike Sheffield and Troy for their excellent work in
taking a nine minute and 30 second video on the coalition and boiling
it down to a little over a minute. And it really highlights what our
mission is. And with that, they're going to play the video.
(Video plays.)
MR. DAMERON: As you can see, this is a very serious problem,
requiring very serious action on the part of many dedicated people.
I am so privileged to be on this committee, this coalition. And the
star of this, Mark Tesoro, you just saw up here is the injury prevention
analyst and educator with Lee Trauma Center. Lydia Galton, who was
up front with us as miss everything in Naples, has done almost
everything, so that's no time to list anything. And of course Jeff Lytle,
retired Opinion Editor with Naples Daily News. Dr. Jacylnn Faffer,
president and CEO of the Jewish Family Community Services was not
able to be with us. And Michael Wynn, president of Sunshine Ace
Y
Hardware, was -- had a conflict. And Deputy Chief Jorge Aguilera of
the North Collier Fire Department.
This is a great deal of talent, this is a great deal of dedication on
their part. These are very busy business people, yet they are dedicating
a portion of their time and talent, and treasure, I might add, to
advancing this cause.
We're also privileged to have Walgreen's, Kerry Crotolfo
(phonetic) who's a healthcare senior supervisor at Southwest Florida.
The Happy Handyman with Kelly Heron, director of community
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outreach. Living in Naples, Reg Buxton is the publisher. And of
course Sunshine Ace Hardware and other Collier County businesses
have literally lined up to offer their services. In fact, so many that we
have to sort of calm them down and ask them to please keep that
thought for the time being.
It's a serious problem, 60 percent of falls occur in the homes, 30
percent occur in businesses and 10 percent occur in medical facilities.
We are addressing the 60 percent which is the big piece. Chief
Stolts in the North Collier Fire is taking wonderful actions to address
the piece for the businesses.
It's a partnership, it's a passion. We appreciate the seriousness of
the problem and we appreciate the dedication on the part of all of the
co-chairs, and we thank the Commission for giving us an opportunity
to help get the word out so that people, when they see our rolling out of
the teaching seminars that we'll be doing around Collier County and
Naples and Marco Island, when you see it and when you see an
opportunity to attend, please join us.
And in closing, a show of hands, how many in here know of
someone who has fallen in the last 12 months.
Thank you.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, just one fast question, Keith.
I'm sure that you must have produced some type of pamphlets for
people to pick up and give them tips on how to prepare their home for
less falls. Where would we be able to find those?
MR. DAMERON: Commissioner, we have a service that will
come in and complementary do a complete home analysis in their
home or in their condo.
On the business side, Chief Stolts, Deputy Chief Aguilera have
created just an incredibly thorough inspection process where they will
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go into businesses and help the businesses be aware of potential
liability. And on the businesses it's a liability issue as well as anything
else. And that applies not just to the customers, but it applies to their
employees.
So we have all that material. September 25th in Telford
Auditorium, Dr. Weiss has granted us the privilege of using the
auditorium from 8:00 a.m. until 1:00 to hold a workshop from which
will come our specific actions plans through 2016. So once that
workshop is completed we're going to be full steam ahead, and you'll
be seeing and hearing a lot about us.
Thank you, again.
(Applause.)
Item #4E
PROCLAMATION HONORING WORK AND CONTRIBUTIONS
OF THE COLLIER COUNTY ONE HUNDRED CLUB AND ITS
DEDICATION TO CARE FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND
THEIR FAMILIES. ACCEPTED BY PAT O'CONNOR,
PRESIDENT OF THE COLLIER COUNTY ONE HUNDRED
CLUB, AND SCOTT SALLEY, COLLIER COUNTY ONE
HUNDRED CLUB BOARD MEMBER — ADOPTED
MR. OCHS: Item 4.E is a proclamation honoring the work and
contributions of the Collier County One Hundred Club and its
dedication to care for our first responders and their families. To be
accepted by Pat O'Connor, President of the Collier County One
Hundred Club, and Scott Salley, Collier County One Hundred Club
board member. Gentlemen?
(Applause.)
MR. O'CONNOR: Good morning, Commissioners, and thank
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you so much. I'm Pat O'Connor, I'm president of the Collier County
One Hundred Club. We thank you so much for this proclamation.
The One Hundred Club, we just had our 30th anniversary, we had
a celebration over at Hodges Funeral Home here in town with a
flyover.
The One Hundred Club, our basic mission is to take care of those
that take care of us. Fire, police, EMS. Once we get a request we
respond within 24 hours. And that's what it's all about, taking care of
those that take care of us.
I have Scott Salley to give a few finishing words on that. Thank
you very much.
MR. SALLEY: For the record, I'm Scott Sally. Pleasure to be
back in these chambers.
It's an honor. Thank you so much to the Chairman and the
Commission for honoring the Collier County One Hundred Club.
This is our 30th anniversary. And you may not have had the
opportunity to hear about the One Hundred Club, and that was on
purpose. It's a very low key organization. We're probably the only
organization that you probably don't want to see us arrive at your front
door. We're there to help those individuals who unfortunately are
killed in the line of duty or seriously injured, not only physically but
what we're seeing more often is the psychological injuries caused by
post-traumatic stress, TBI and so forth.
But part of the program that we've expanded, and I've asked Chris
Spencer from North Collier Fire to be here, is our liaison program.
Not only is it in the law enforcement profession, fire and rescue, in the
jail and corrections. Any federal or state officer that's assigned to
Collier County and he or she is injured or killed in the line of duty or
their family members, we are there to help and serve within 24 hours.
Again, thank you very much.
(Applause.)
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes, thank you so much. And it's
organizations like the One Hundred Club that help those who died in
9/11. So I get very emotional, because every time I think of our men in
blue being killed in the line of duty, it just -- it pains me to no end. And
when I think of our first responders like fire and EMS dying in an
effort to save someone else's life, my heart bleeds.
On 9/11 a number of organizations in this community banded
together, and they are putting forward a memorial service that I
encourage everybody to attend. It will be held at the Golden Gate
Government Center.
And I wanted to ask our Board to thank those groups that came
forward to make this possible for the community. Our thanks goes out
to the Greater Naples Fire Control and Rescue District, the Collier
County Sheriffs Office, Collier County EMS, Golden Gate
Community Center, the Golden Gate Area Civic Association, the
Golden Gate High School, the Golden Gate Middle School, New Life
Church, Socialimpact.com, Legacy Options, and White Doves of
Naples.
It's organizations like these and the One Hundred Club that make
it possible for us to stay safe in this community and also help us to
never forget and honor those who died in the line of duty protecting us.
So please attend this Friday, September the 11th. And I believe it
begins at 9:00; is that correct? Can someone tell me?
MEMBER IN AUDIENCE: 9:30.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: 9:30. 9:30. And thank you all at
the One Hundred Club for helping everyone in this community who
has suffered.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, may I get a motion to approve
today's proclamations?
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: So moved.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Proclamations are approved.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I say one thing, Commissioner
Nance?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I don't think anyone is aware of
this, even though it's very obvious, but this is the first year the Board of
County Commissioners has been dominated by female commissioners.
We have a majority of women who now are commissioners here in
Collier County. And that's also true for the school board.
So I thought it would be appropriate, and I wanted to suggest this
and bring something forward for the next board meeting, but I would
like to declare this the year of women in government in Collier
County. Because it has never happened before. So ladies?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, Commissioner Hiller, I --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: This is the first full year.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: A couple of us on the dais here have
been acutely aware of that development. And since you have three out
of the five votes, I would not resist that.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think it's so exciting and I'm
really, really happy to see what has happened. So it's gone from the
good 'ol boys to --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning and I are just
happy to be part of it, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Time to put our softer side on.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: You do.
So yeah. And so I thought it would be appropriate if at the next
board meeting we're bringing forward a proclamation to recognize
Pace, the Center For Girls that helps girls in need in Immokalee and
throughout Collier. And I thought it would be fitting at that time to
also recognize the leaders that are women in this community at every
level of government.
Go, girls. Remember, girls rule and boys drool. Never forget
that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Ochs?
Item #5A
PRESENTATION OF THE COLLIER COUNTY BUSINESS OF
THE MONTH FOR SEPTEMBER 2015 TO THE SEMINOLE
CASINO HOTEL IMMOKALEE. ACCEPTED BY TONY ALVES,
GENERAL MANAGER, SEMINOLE CASINO HOTEL
IMMOKALEE; JIM GIBSON, DIRECTOR OF MARKETING,
SEMINOLE CASINO HOTEL IMMOKALEE; CATHY BAKER,
ADVERTISING AND PR MANAGER, SEMINOLE CASINO
HOTEL IMMOKALEE; KRISTI BARTLETT, VICE PRESIDENT,
OPPORTUNITY NAPLES, THE GREATER NAPLES CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE; AND ANDREA STURZENEGGER, VICE
PRESIDENT, MEMBERSHIP AND MARKETING, THE GREATER
NAPLES CHAMBER OF COMMERCE — PRESENTED
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MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, we move to Item 5.A, which is a
presentation of the Collier County Business of the Month for
September, 2015 to the Seminole Casino Hotel, Immokalee. To be
accepted by Tony Alves, General Manager; Jim Gibson, Director of
Marketing; Cathy Baker, Advertising and Public Relations Manager;
Kristi Bartlett, Vice President of Opportunity Naples with the Greater
Naples Chamber of Commerce; and Andrea Sturzenegger, Vice
President of Membership and Marketing for the Greater Naples
Chamber.
If you'd please step forward and be recognized.
(Applause.)
MR. ALVES: Good morning. Thank you for this very nice
award. What's even a better pleasure than this award, though, is the
support we receive from the community. Everyone from the
Commissioners, the Chamber of Commerce, Convention, Visitors
Bureau, we find very professional support of our organization. We've
had a good year. We've recently opened expansion created by the 100
new jobs in Immokalee. This couldn't happen without the support we
receive. So thank you very much for all your professionalism, your
support, and we all succeed together.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir. Thank you so much for the
investment you've made in Collier County. Congratulations on your
wonderful expansion.
For those of you in the room and in the viewing audience that
have not yet escaped to the action since the addition, I would
encourage everybody to go out there to see your beautiful hotel, to see
your beautiful conference room facilities and partake of the great
entertainment you bring to Collier County.
Thank you so much for being a great destination and the number
one tourist destination in Southwest Florida. Thank you so much.
(Applause.)
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Item #6A
PUBLIC PETITION REQUEST FROM NEIL DORRILL
REQUESTING THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
DIRECT STAFF TO MEASURE THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN
CREATING A TAXING DISTRICT FOR A POTENTIAL WATER
PROJECT IN THE PINE RIDGE COMMUNITY — MOTION
DIRECTING COUNTY MANAGER AND STAFF TO WORK
TOGETHER WITH THE PINE RIDGE COMMUNITY —
APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, that takes us to Item 6.A, public
petitions. This is a public petition request from Neil Dorrill requesting
that the Board of County Commissioners direct staff to measure the
public interest in creating a taxing direct for the potential water project
in the Pine Ridge community.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Move to approve.
Would this be a public service that would be handling this, public
utilities? No.
MR. OCHS: You want to make your --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That would be direction for staff
to gauge the sentiment in the Pine Ridge area for water and sewer.
Now who in your staff would be doing the survey?
MR. OCHS: Well, actually, I believe Mr. Dorrill was going to
make an alternative suggestion that had to do with a vote on the ballot
that's coming in the fall. You might want to hear from him, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay.
MR. DORRILL: Good morning, Commissioners, welcome back
from the summer.
This past year Pine Ridge celebrated its 60th anniversary. It is
one of the oldest platted divisions in Southwest Florida.
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In preparation for today, I actually looked at their deed
restrictions, and one of the deed restrictions interestingly enough was
that you would covenant and agree to spend $12,000 at least to build
your home. I don't believe Mr. Casalanguida will give you a building
permit now for $12,000.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: No, sir.
MR. DORRILL: But, it goes and speaks I think, to the character
and the future planning of the community.
Over the course of time, though, Pine Ridge has never had a
potable water system. About 25 percent of the homes there at their own
expense constructed and then conveyed to the county a potable water
main in order to serve their home.
We're simply asking, as Commissioner Henning said, to develop
with your Public Utilities Division the assessment and informational
campaign to gauge the support through the balance of the community
to construct potable water mains to include fire hydrants for fire
protection and to do that within a process that the utility staff feels is
appropriate. Either some sort of petition ballot or interesting enough
perhaps a straw ballot that would be as early as the March presidential
preference primary, or the fall or September primaries as part of the
general election.
Very simple straightforward in this particular case, I'm
volunteering my time up to this point because I manage the MSTBU
across the highway on your behalf. I have members of the civic
association this morning. And the most interesting characteristic here
is while this is a civic association, they are not a homeowners
association. They do not have the ability to assess the residents within
the community. As such, they exist on voluntary support, donations,
and so we're looking to the county and to hope that at the end of the
day the county Utility Division could add 400 or so new water
customers on the north end of the regional county system.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, this has been done in the
past, places like Naples Park -- I'm sorry, Naples Manor. And I think
that was in the Nineties, Mr. Dorrill. Do you remember that?
MR. DORRILL: We had two. We sewered all of East Naples
and we also installed potable water and sewer in Port Au Prince and
some other places in the south end of the county.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So I'm in favor directing the
County Manager to work with Mr. Dorrill and the civic association as
presented.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, we can work towards that ballot initiative.
Probably the primary.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second the motion.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Second.
Any further discussion?
Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Nothing?
Seeing none, all those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, sir, thank you. Let's see what
the public comes back with.
MR. DORRILL: Yes, sir. Thank you again.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
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Item #10A
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO DIRECT
STAFF TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS FROM QUALIFIED FIRMS
AND APPROVE FUNDING TO UPDATE THE JAIL MASTER
PLAN — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, that would take us to Item 10.A,
which is a recommendation that the Board direct staff to solicit
proposals for qualified firms and approve funding to update the jail
master plan. This item's brought to the agenda by Commissioner
Henning.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second.
Commissioner Henning, would you like to say anything?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, not needed. Got three votes.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: No discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you, passes unanimously.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'll just throw in a comment, though.
I think it's a great movement right here to update it. I was amazed to
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see how wrong the figures were from before. Of course how does
anybody know after a recession or even that we were going to go into
one. So it's a good thing that they're tackling this and bringing this --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you to Commissioner Henning for
bringing it to our attention.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well done. I think you served on
that committee, and I'm sure it was not a chore but it involved a lot. So
well done.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I think you really need to
thank the sheriffs staff and their commitment of outreach in, you
know, working with their customers to make sure they're model
citizens when they return to society.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
Item #11G
RECOMMENDATION TO RATIFY ADMINISTRATIVELY
APPROVED WORK ORDER MODIFICATIONS AND/OR
CONTRACT CHANGE ORDERS/AMENDMENTS THAT DO
NOT EXCEED TEN PERCENT (10%) OF THE CURRENT
BOARD APPROVED AGGREGATE AMOUNT OR TWENTY
PERCENT (20%) OF THE CURRENT BOARD APPROVED
SCHEDULE (NUMBER OF DAYS); APPROVE
MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURRENT BOARD APPROVED
PERFORMANCE SCHEDULES; AND APPROVE SURPLUS
DISPOSAL AND REVENUE DISBURSEMENT AND OTHER
ITEMS AS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY MANAGER OR
DESIGNEE
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, that takes us to your 10:00 a.m.
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recommendation to ratify administratively approved work order
modifications and contract change orders and amendments. And
Commissioner Henning had moved this for discussion to the regular
agenda.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, question. Who wanted
this to be a time certain? I mean, it was announced that Commissioner
Fiala wanted -- oh, okay.
MR. OCHS: The Clerk's Office asked for a time certain, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. I just think it's important
to announce who's asking for the time certain.
The reason I pulled this item, we have several items on the
change order. A lot of them have to do with percentages of using
subcontractors. And, you know, the thought is, is this is really a
change in scope of the bid.
Where is the savings to the taxpayers if these contractors are
basically going to be a conduit for getting better prices from their
competitors? And I think the proper thing to do is either A, where is
the county's benefit in this, for one thing, for this change. B is, you
know, let the contract stand and let's monitor the subcontractors that
are being used and invite them to participate in a new bid so the
taxpayer gets the value of it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Leo, can you explain the issue;
clarify what Commissioner Henning has just said?
MR. OCHS: Well, I'll give you the staff perspective, if I may,
Commissioner.
We have several fixed term contracts with general contractors that
have a provision in them that limit the percentage of use of
subcontractors and their work, and we have found over time that not
only is that difficult at times for us to monitor in the field, but it
actually -- I'll give you a real life example. We had a contract with an
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HVAC contractor. Was part of a competitive bid, awarded to that
contractor along with others. We solicited proposals for a job to do
some repairs on our chiller plant. The low quote was for $21,000. That
general contractor employed a subcontractor for about $4,000 of that
work, which was about 20 percent of the project. In that particular
contract the subcontractor participation is limited to 20 percent.
So the general went out and did their portion of the work, were
able to do it more cheaply than they originally quoted. The price came
back for the total job at 17,000 instead of 21. However, the $4,000 of
work that the subcontractor originally did remained at that level. So
you actually, when the invoice came in, the subcontractor work was
now 25 percent roughly instead of 20 so nobody got paid. And we had
to end up coming back to the Commission on a separate agenda item to
allow for that new payment where we actually saved $4,000 on the
total price of the job.
So in our view that doesn't make a lot of sense. If we -- your
contract is with the general contractor, not the subcontractor. And if
you get the job done as specified and consistent with the terms of the
agreement, that's really the issue for us.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: There's no guarantee in this
change order that that's going to happen with what's being proposed.
Now, if there is provisions in there that we were going to benefit from
using the subcontract, that's fine. And quite frankly, the statement in
here from your staff that we had no idea this provision was in the
contract, I find it very concerning.
MR. OCHS: I don't -- we certainly know it's in the contract, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. That isn't what it --
what's written in the backup material.
Staff was not aware of the extent to which subcontractors were
used. That's telling me that who's out there managing these contracts?
Okay?
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So, you know, where is the benefit to the taxpayers? That's -- I
don't see that in the proposed changes.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Other comments from Commissioners?
If not --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'd like to comment, but I'd like to
hear what the Clerk has to say first and then --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Brock, you requested the time
certain. Please let us know what your concerns are.
MR. BROCK: Well, you know, obviously the concerns are that
you have all of the information. This is obviously a decision that you
have to make. But I wanted to explain to you the ramifications of your
decision.
If in fact for example you or I went out and entered into a contract
for improvement of our real property with someone else, that
contractor then goes out and hires a third party. We're not in privy
with them. I'm not in privy with them, okay? That means that I don't
have a contract with them. So they can't come back to me on the basis
of a contract violation.
So theoretically the potential is out there for them to just be on the
hook if the contractor doesn't pay them. Make sense?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: What about performance bonds?
Jeff, can you --
MR. BROCK: Performance bonds work for governments and are
required. But the problem is they're only required if the project is over
200,000. So if there was in fact a performance bond, that would
protect the sub. But if that's not the situation that it's over 200 and
there's a performance bond for them to go after, you cannot lien
government.
So -- and as a consequence of us looking at BQ Concrete, we
have experienced this particular problem to the tune of tens of
thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars where these little
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contractors that did work, the contractor itself has been paid and the
subcontractor is sitting out there holding the bag. And I just wanted
you to know that that potential is there.
There is an additional element here. That is that if in fact you
have a contract like BQ where it says that, you know, so much for the
concrete, so much for the person, so much for whatever, where you've
identified what it's for, and then you have for purchase of goods and
services without any limitation or price plus 20 percent. Think about
that. Why would you want to ever do any work? Just go hire
somebody else to do it and add 20 percent to it, if there's not a
limitation on how much you can sub.
So that is a potential issue.
In addition to that, the contracts that you are dealing with here are
based upon invitations to bid. That's a competitive process that you
have done pursuant to I'm assuming your requirements. Or an
invitation to -- or a proposal, which is another competitive process,
which has been done pursuant to your processes as they have been
established by you.
Now, what they're wanting you to do, as I read it, and I may be
wrong, was to go back and change the invitation to bid. How do you
do that when you have used that in a competitive process? Nobody
else had the benefit of this change when they proposed. So do you
really want to do that? Those are the issues that I saw that I simply
wanted to bring to your attention. And it's obviously your call as to
what you do. But those are what I considered to be issued that you
needed to be aware of.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Before I go to Commissioner Henning
and Commissioner Hiller, I'd like to just make a couple of comments.
You know, I understand what is occurring here. And Mr. Brock,
when you and I chatted I recognized a lot of this problem is occurring
when we have work that's done with these general contracts that we
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establish under what I used to call time and materials sorts of projects.
What we really don't know for whatever reason what the cost might be
of them. And so they are fraught with these sorts of questions to begin
with.
But, you know, my question is on limitations for 10 percent on
subcontractors, and Mr. Ochs has rightfully pointed out to us do have
some glitches and problems, how is -- and, you know, I recognize your
saying, sir, that the public perception is if a subcontractor is left on the
hook because they're not paid by our contractor is bad for the image on
the government, how is that different when we have a limitation on 10
percent subcontractors, when we have some sort of an emergency
repair which is time and materials where the hard infrastructure that
has to be purchased exceeds 10 percent of the work? How is that
different as far as our, you know, perceived liability to somebody?
I don't know that the government should be reaching back into a
contractor and policing their relationship with their subcontractors and
vendors. Because I don't see a difference between a subcontractor and
a vendor.
So what sort of a slippery slope are we on here? I'm afraid we're
getting on a pretty slippery one.
MR. BROCK: In term -- I'm obviously not understanding the
question. Can you --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay. Yeah, the BQ Concrete deal was,
as I understand it, was kind of a time and material deal where we
understood what they charged per hour and what the materials were
supposed to be and so on and so forth. And then they had an
incremental profit that they were, you know, entitled to make, which is
20 percent or whatever you mentioned.
How does that differ from the emergency repair of some utilities
contractor that we have on contract comes in and repairs something
that's got $100,000 worth of parts he has to buy to do a repair? That's
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going to exceed 10 -- you know, that vendor's contribution is going to
exceed probably 10 percent of the contractor's fee because of that
issue. Are we then supposed to go back and say well, wait a minute,
what if the contractor we have doesn't pay this vendor? What's the
difference between a vendor and a subcontractor in your concern here?
MR. BROCK: There is none. But that emergency that you're
talking about occurs very infrequently; whereas the process that you're
talking about engaging here now is basically all of the work in the
county gets done in this particular situation.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: In the time and materials sort of work
where we don't have a bid process where we have a hard bid?
MR. BROCK: Well, I mean, I don't know what you mean by
time and material. You know, the agreement is that you've got a
defined cost for a defined service.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Right.
MR. BROCK: And then you have a situation in which you go out
and hire a vendor to do something that does not use those particular
costs that are set up in the contract.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Or something arises that prevents them
from doing it within the anticipated --
MR. BROCK: There's 20 percent of the contract price that would
be -- you could go out and hire a vendor to do. Or they could come
back to the Board and get approval from the Board on an emergency
basis, as you are talking about, to do anything that you want. Or you
can do it just the way they're requesting that it be done and then you're
going to have what we have now which is you're going to have the
little vendors out there who are going to end up getting stuck on the
hook that are going to be calling in here saying -- or writing in here
saying hey, you know, we entered into this agreement to do a
government job, you got the work done, we didn't get paid. We got
stuck. Is that what you want? If it is --
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: No, I understand that.
MR. BROCK: -- I'm more than happy -- I just wanted you to
understand the ramifications, Commissioner.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: How far are we supposed to reach into
our contractors affairs?
Commissioner Henning, then Commissioner Hiller.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, I want to provide an
example on your change order. You have an amendment to a contract
that was done in 2014. The amended changes to the contract states:
Request for proposal exhibit additional RFP termination conditions
paragraph hereby removed in its entirety. The bidders on each service
related to project included construction must be qualified and direct the
responsibility of 80 percent or more of solicitation of work (sic).
Now, there is no limitations on that, so it's -- you know, basically
you can have a contractor -- have somebody else do all the work and,
you know, submit bills to be paid that the contractor didn't do any
work. Theoretically --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Wait a minute.
And besides it's understanding -- a statement of understanding
that the whole solicitation process is changed. So if you had contractor
A winning the award of the bid in this particular contract of last year
but contractor B knew that he couldn't do it using 80 percent, he can
only use -- well, no, actually it was 10 percent, I think it was, of
subcontractors, he bidded upon that knowledge of that solicitation.
And, you know, I just see this a real problematic (sic). Let the
contracts stand, re-solicitate (sic) after the contract is terminating, and
put those provisions within the new solicitation.
And also, more importantly, going forward is the solicitation
should be how much work are you going to perform at what price?
And under the consideration that you can use subs under whatever you
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propose. I think you're going to get a better understanding of the cost
to the taxpayers than what is being proposed here.
MR. BROCK: Commissioner Nance?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Sir.
MR. BROCK: You know, one of the problems that you have
when you go out under the circumstances of let's take the BQ Concrete
contract. You go out and you hire a subcontractor to do the work. In
addition to you paying the cost of the subcontractor, you're also adding
20 percent to that cost pursuant to the contract. So you're jacking the
price up.
So if you think about this, if that price was -- of the contract that
you let with the original contractor is competitive and the price of the
sub is competitive, you have the potential of-- why would the
contractor ever do the work themselves but rather go out -- why not go
out and hire it to be done, they don't do anything and still make 20
percent? And I'll leave it --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: That's why there's a limitation, and that's
why a lot of grants are including those sorts of limitations, right?
MR. BROCK: Most of the grants require that the services must
be competitively let, not in the manner in which you're dealing with
them.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: If we change our process to include what
Commissioner Henning suggested to begin with, I don't know where
this process is going to be a problem after that, do you?
MR. BROCK: It would certainly be better. But you still end up
with the problem that I just explained.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller, then
Commissioner Fiala, then Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: There are a lot of issues in what's
being discussed, and these issues are raised by different questions.
You know, the first question raised was, you know, what was the
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benefit to the taxpayer. The other issue is how do we protect subs of
our general contractors, whether or not we're dealing with the whole
universe of these type of contracts, which is clearly not the case, and so
I want to address these one by one. And also by the way, we also
addressed BQ.
So the first issue I want to address is that based on -- Jeff, can you
clarify, we require performance bonds for contracts under -- over
200,000?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, but this is not a performance bond
issue.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right, I understand. But this is
going to the subs being paid.
MR. KLATZKOW: It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You buy
pencils and pens, you have no idea Staples is going to be paying for
this. You hire people to clean; you have no idea if the employee is
being paid. It's the same issue for everything.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: All right, then we can -- but let's
stick to the construction, because I think the Clerk is focused on
construction.
Are you focused on construction or are you also focused on
pencils and pens and the -- our cleaners? I want to know how far we're
going on this issue.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'm the one that brought up the vendor
issue.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I know, but let me just -- hang on a
second.
How far are we going? Are we dealing with all vendors on this or
are we talking about construction? Because --
MR. BROCK: The daily/weekly contracts that are provided for
in the agenda.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: All of them.
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MR. BROCK: The ones in which the request is being made to
modify them.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, and those are -- what type of
contracts are those specifically?
MR. OCHS: I'll ask Ms. Markiewicz, there's three different
categories, if she would explain.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: Joanne Markiewicz, Procurement Services
Director.
There are three contracts we're talking about, Commissioner. One
is the general contract, services contract. A second one is the
underground utility contractors. The third one is the concrete,
sidewalks, curbs and floors.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So they're all construction
contracts. And that was my understanding from the Clerk's initial
presentation, since he was talking about the fact that these
subcontractors would not be able to lien us because we're government.
So I go back to the issue as it relates to these three vendors that
for the contracts over 200,000, you've got the performance bond.
For the contracts under 200,000, the protection to the taxpayer is
very straightforward. The first is if there's a fixed price contract, then
whoever the GC chooses to subcontract makes no difference to the
county because the cost that we have committed to contractually is
what we are going to pay.
And, you know, the Clerk is saying well, you know, why would
the county agree to general contracting services on a cost plus basis?
Well, I think that's the norm for business everywhere, not just for this
government but for this government, the private sector and other
governments. There's -- I'm sorry, on a fixed price basis.
On the cost plus basis, the protection for the sub is the contract
with the general contractor. And that has nothing to do with us.
So with respect to whatever the underlying cost is, the verification
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of what that cost is is something that the Clerk has to confirm. And
that's what happened in BQ. In BQ it was really simple. We would
not have had a crime. There would not have been any sort of theft of
public funds if the Clerk had done his pre-audit. And the way that
should have occurred, and what would have protected the taxpayer, is
that the Clerk would have done an independent verification of the
subcontractor and their invoice before he paid the general contractor.
That did not occur. And therefore monies were paid to the GC which
allegedly should not have been paid.
Now, we haven't gotten through the full investigation, because my
understanding is the Clerk is continuing to pre-audit BQ's transactions
and as a result FDLE has suspended their criminal investigation
because they're not going to engage in a criminal investigation while
the Clerk is engaging in his pre-audit.
So going to the issue of, you know, what percentage of the
underlying work should be done by the GC or the sub, I don't see how
in any way that would have changed what happened with BQ.
Whether it was, you know, 10 percent or 20 percent or five percent, the
issue is exactly the same.
With respect to the issue of whether or not this -- you know, these
three contracts should be changed now to allow more subs than were
originally permitted in those contracts, it does raise the question as to I
think Commissioner Henning correctly said, you know, is it fair to
change the terms now in a manner in which when this contract first
went out to bid the first -- you know, the first set of bidders on that
contract are now in effect disadvantaged because they said, you know,
we told them they could only use 20 percent in terms of other subs
than the GC or the contractor.
So, I mean, there's something to be said with respect to these three
right now. You know, changing in the middle of the game, if you will,
does seem to present some unfairness. But I certainly don't see any
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reason why in the future we should have limitations. And the GC
should absolutely have to disclose the subs he's using. He needs to
present, you know, if it's a cost plus contract, the underlying invoices,
and it's the Clerk's duty to verify the validity of those underlying
invoices, not by calling staff and saying staff, hey, are these the
invoices you got, but as any proper auditor would do which is
verification with the source, which is the sub that's providing either the
materials or the labor to the GC, which is a conventional way of doing
business.
I just -- you know, since we're strictly talking about construction
and tying this back to BQ, I just don't see the issue. Although I do see
that there is some unfairness if we were to change as it relates to the
three right now.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: There's more than three on this
agenda.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, we're talking about three --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Different type of contracts.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: Three contracts, 13 contractors.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But it's three contracts. But the
issue is the three contracts. And --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You have contracts with the 13.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And again, the issue -- no, we have
-- how many contracts do we have?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's on our agenda.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, I want to be specific so I know
what we're discussing.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: We have three contracts with 13 different
contractors.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So you have 13 contracts.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: So we have two contractors for concrete,
sidewalk, curbs and floors; five contractors for the general contractors;
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and we have six contractors for underground utility contracts. It's --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But in effect you have 13
contracts.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: We have 13 contractors. Each of them
have a contract, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right, so we have 13 contracts.
So again, those 13 contracts as of right now limit how many subs
can -- or what percentage of subcontracting work can be done under
those contracts.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I think in fairness they need to
stay the way they are now, but prospectively don't put those limitations
in and just require the GCs to put forward the underlying
documentation, if it's a cost plus contract. And then the Clerk has a
duty to do what he didn't do with BQ, which is independently verify
that those underlying invoices, if it's a cost plus, are in fact legitimate,
in other words, not fraudulent.
MR. BROCK: Mr. Chairman, there have --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Sir?
MR. BROCK: -- been some very interesting remarks that I would
like to comment upon.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Please proceed.
MR. BROCK: To start with BQ Concrete. Let's talk about what
really happened with BQ Concrete, okay?
We have construction that takes place here on Davis Boulevard.
And what was submitted to the Clerk of the Circuit Court was a
representation that each and every one of the billings associated with
that particular project fit into one of the classifications in the contract;
that being so much concrete, so many square feet of concrete, so many
machines, so many types of personnel, manager, laborer, such and
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such. When in fact when we went into it and began looking at it what
in fact it was, they did none of it. It was all done by a subcontractor.
So to suggest what Commissioner Hiller just suggested evidenced
that she doesn't know what she's talking about.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: But sir, if it's a fraudulent situation,
there's no organization, ordinance or purchasing ordinance or rules that
are going to safeguard us from fraud now, is there?
MR. BROCK: Commissioner, I fully understand that. I mean,
there's absolute -- none of what we're talking about here today would
have solved that problem.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Right.
MR. BROCK: But if in fact you let the contracts the way you're
letting them now, which was, as she spoke about it, we have a fixed
term contract.
We didn't have a fixed term contract. We had a basis of contract
carried out to the price of the services under the agreement with the
Board.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Time and materials is what you had.
MR. BROCK: That is correct, time and material-- well, time and
materials based upon what you pay for it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Based upon the --
MR. BROCK: That is correct.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: You had time and materials, which is
why time and materials contracts are not good for anybody really, but
there's certain circumstances where you need to have them or if there's
an emergency you need to have some arrangement. And for those you
need to have flexibility. You can't do time and materials without
flexibility. That's what it anticipates, the circumstance.
So if we're going to do that with these fixed contractors that, you
know, we go out and say how much is your labor --
MR. BROCK: They're not fixed.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- your supervisors -- but they're general
contracts that require verification of the rates that they have --
MR. BROCK: Not the rates.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, rates for supervisors, time, you
know, the cost per unit --
MR. BROCK: Right.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- that they are contracting to, you know,
provide whatever services they provide to the county.
MR. BROCK: Right. And if the suggestion here today by this
Board is that the Clerk needs to go out and audit every one of these
projects to ensure that these people are in fact out there working, that
they're putting this particular amount of goods on-site and that they are
in fact providing X amount of employees of a particular grade for each
project, then the cost of operating the Clerk's Office is going to become
prohibitive.
I thought that was what the role of these contract managers that
you hire to be out there working was for. And then to certify to the
Clerk of the Circuit Court -- as a matter of fact they actually sign a
statement and a certificate to the effect that we certify that the goods
and services have in fact been performed. If you're telling me here
today that I can no longer rely upon that, that's fine, I can do it, I
guarantee you. But it's going to cost the taxpayers a small fortune,
because I'm going to have to go and redo everything that your
employees do.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: But please clarify this. As part of your
pre-audit function, which you typically perform, don't you require
invoices from subcontractors --
MR. BROCK: If I know about them.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- on a regular basis?
MR. BROCK: If I know about them.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yeah, so you do that.
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MR. BROCK: And, you know, another instance with BQ, we
received a falsified or a forged invoice from a sub on two separate
occasions. It went from $6,500 to $26,000.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Which goes back to what we just agreed
upon, that there's no defense for fraud.
MR. BROCK: But if you think about it, if you have concrete,
piece of equipment, an employee, okay, as a price in your contract, if
the contractor then can go just hire anybody he wants to hire at any
price he wants to hire them at as a subcontractor and then add 20
percent on top of what he pays that subcontractor, why would you ever
want to use the base prices in your contract? You're getting 20 percent
for nothing.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, that's the dilemma of time and
materials.
Before I go back to Commissioner Hiller, I'm going to go to
Commissioner Fiala and Commissioner Taylor and let them join in the
fun.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I don't know how much fun this is,
by the way.
Just a few things, and I'm certainly not as adapt to all of this as
my colleagues.
On the one item where they were going to change the bid, I don't
agree with anything like that. It's already been let and that's what
prompted the people to bid for it in the first place. I don't think we
should go back and change something that's already standing. So that's
my message on that.
But what's coming forward is that all of these things need
monitoring, each person, and they're not getting paid. It's not our
obligation, in my opinion, and as humble as that is, it's not our
obligation to make sure that the subs get paid. It's the obligation of the
contractor. And if the contractor isn't doing it, well then, you know,
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probably the police ought be called in or something, Sheriffs Office.
But, you know, I think we've missed -- we've got a great CBIA
here in town, and maybe we should be working with the CBIA on
these contracts. And they also -- they govern what goes on in their
organization, and they can also warn people of contractors that are not
reputable or who do not pay. And I think we ought to rope them in on
this. And I bet they would like to work with us on this and maybe help
us solve this problem.
You know, when we hire people -- first of all, for the county, we
can't hire the best guys because we know they're the great guys, we
have to go by the bids. You know, you have to get the lowest bid.
And sometimes you get what you pay for, but you have to go to the
lowest bid and then take that person. And I don't know what we can
ever do about changing that to go to the best bidder or the contractor
who will do the best job.
So then we're faced with a contractor that doesn't pay his subs,
and to and behold it smacks us in the face. Well, we had no idea.
Maybe CBIA could help us with, you know, telling us contractors we
shouldn't be using. I don't know that that can happen. But I just
thought we need to come up with some solutions here and so I thought
I'd throw a few on the table. Because I don't think it's our obligation,
the county's obligation, to go after people who aren't being paid. We
hire people, we pay them, understanding that they were going to do the
job that they bid on and that our contract says. And if they don't pay
somebody, as sad as that is and angry as I get about that, it's not our job
to go out and collect from them. So those are my two cents.
MR. BROCK: Commissioner, a couple of comments. I agree
with you totally. Legally you have no responsibility whatsoever. But,
you know, there's a discussion that always goes around that nobody
wants to work for government, okay. And this is another reason that
people don't want to work for government. That happens, you know.
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That potential is always there.
This is a political question, pure and simple. If you want to deal
with it in a laissez faire manner, let the vendor beware, that's your call.
I simply want you to understand the ramifications. That's all I'm trying
to do.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, Dwight -- I'm sorry,
Clerk, I'm --
MR. BROCK: My name's Dwight and I answer to that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I think that most people know who
the good guys and the bad guys are. If some new ones pop up here and
there, I think CBIA could make sure to point that out to others. But,
you know, word travels fast among subs. They know who's the good
guys and who are the bad guys as far as contractors go and who will
pay and who won't, who's fair and who isn't. And I would suggest
again that maybe we enlist the help of CBIA to help us along. Thank
you.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor and back to
Commissioner Hiller.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'd like to propose something. I'd
like to propose that the Clerk appoint a high level manager in your
department and the County Manager appoint a high level manager in
his department and go and sit across the table from one another and
work this out one way or another and try to come to some kind of
conclusion. Because I see this is very difficult. I see both sides to this.
And if we can't get together and solve a problem, what are we doing?
MR. BROCK: Commissioner, I hear you, I understand you and I
don't have a problem doing it.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Is that a yes?
MR. BROCK: Yes, don't have a problem.
But wait. You know, this is a political issue, not anything else.
I'm simply pointing -- trying to point out to you what the political
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ramifications are. Legally there is absolutely no question, you have no
legal obligation to protect that sub. But as numerous vendors have
come to us and said, you know, we went to work for government. We
certainly thought government was going to protect us. And in reality,
no, it's not. And that's all I'm trying to convey to you.
How you do it is no skin off of my teeth. I can do it any way you
want to. I simply wanted to point out to you that it is the subcontractor
in that situation that has no privy with the contractor -- has no privy
with the county. His privy is with the contractor. And generally when
this happens, you know, they don't have anything in which they could
go after to recover.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And I understand it and that's the
human side.
MR. BROCK: We will be more than happy to work with
anybody and try to explain to them the issues that we see, and it's not
our call to make.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, but --
MR. BROCK: Their call. But, I mean, that's all I'm doing here
today is trying to explain to you the issue.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I think it would help. It would
help this --
MR. BROCK: Be more than happy to. Crystal will be more than
happy too.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: County Manager?
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, be happy to do that. Also at this time
based on --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Excuse me. Hang on. We're not
taking a vote on this, and I think this is really inappropriate. If the
Clerk says this is a political --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Wait a second, ma'am, let Commissioner
Taylor have dialogue --
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: This is a policy issue.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- for just a minute and I'll be right --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: This is not a staff issue. And it's
not a Clerk issue.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'll be right back to you, ma'am, I
promise.
MR. OCHS: Commissioner, I agree with you, it is a policy issue.
Certainly it's not a staff issue, it's a policy issue about whether you
want to limit the amount of subcontracting work that can occur under a
general contractor awarded contract that was competitively awarded.
I'm happy to sit with the Clerk's Office to talk about particulars,
but you are right, ma'am, this question of whether or not you're going
to limit the participation of subcontractors is very much a policy issue.
In listening to the Board, I would like to withdraw our request
because I do agree with you and Commissioner Henning and
Commissioner Fiala that we shouldn't make this change mid-contract.
But certainly when we write the specifications for the new contracts,
we would like to insert, you know, this provision into the contract.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, and again, I'm asking this
because I can see both sides, clearly. I mean, I understand the value
and -- of time is money, I understand that. And I understand the
human side of subcontracting and of having to, you know, be
responsible or accountable as a government. So -- and then the legal
gets in there always.
So I just think it would help this Commissioner if there could be
some kind of communication between the Manager and the Clerk to
try to come to some kind of solution here.
MR. BROCK: I want to clarify something that Leo just said. He
said that the contracts were competitively let. You know, the way --
and I'm going to use BQ again as an example.
The items that were bid in BQ were not and did not include
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subcontractors. They did not bid the cost, the total cost of the project.
It's simply these elements of the work that is bid. And then when you
throw what you add on as the contractor, there's no limitations.
So it's really not competitively bid for the project. I just wanted
to clarify that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Once again, my concern -- I can identify
concern, and I think we need to tighten up with our purchasing
ordinance and our contracting program with these contracts that are of
a time and material nature. This is where it all comes off the rails.
This is where we don't know what it's going to cost us, we don't know
what's going to happen.
Now, I identify that there are circumstances where that is the only
sort of a contract you can use, because you don't know what you're
even bartering for because you're going into an unknown. You've got
a problem on the other side of that wall and we're going to find it.
So what you want to do is you want to have somebody that wants
to participate in that. But staff also has to have the flexibility to deal
with it to get that person paid and get the job done.
So I just think if you two guys could get together and staff could
get together between the Clerk and the County Manager, as
Commissioner Taylor has suggested, and go through there. But I can
tell you it's these time and materials sorts of things, and I don't want to
beat that word, because that's my word, that's not your word. But it
needs to be thought of in that way because that's where I see the
problem.
Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. Thank you very much.
First of all again, with respect to construction contracts, we're
dealing only as to this political issue with contracts under 200,000.
With respect to those contracts under 200,000, the first thing I
would like is for our purchasing director to explain that we don't have
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open-ended contracts that don't have a dollar cap on them, that it's not
time and materials no matter what.
Can you explain how your cost plus contracts work?
MS. MARKIEWICZ: Thank you, ma'am. Because I think things
are getting very confusing here. And let's take this room as an
example. We have five general contractors. We know the cost of the
project probably is going to be $50,000 to redo the lights, to redo the
vents, to put in new carpet, to paint the walls.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: What?
MS. MARKIEWICZ: I'm using that in the way of an example.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Oh, we're not doing that though,
right?
MS. MARKIEWICZ: I don't think so. I don't think so.
MR. OCHS: No, we're not.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: In the way of an example, though. We
have five general contractors. Our facilities plant would go out to the
five general contractors and ask them for a price, a total price for that
project. We would evaluate all five of those quotes that they would
provide to us. And generally speaking the lowest quote would be
awarded that contract. And let's say that contract is for $35,000. The
general contractor would be assured $35,000 for the paint, the HVAC,
the light, the carpet, and at that point we would issue a purchase order
for that.
Now, if the general contractor doesn't have the electricians on
staff, what we're suggesting is that we shouldn't limit the lighting, the
lighting portion of that contract, rather we're going to pay the
contractor to perform $35,000 for the entire job that we scoped out.
So each of these have a fixed price that we use under the general
contractors. And if they use subcontractors, what we're suggesting
here is that they be allowed to use subcontractors as they need them
and not have a fixed percentage for that $35,000 job.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: And under that $35,000 cap, the
GC can go out, he can sub the work and he can get the -- he gets a bid
from the electrician, and he can add a certain percentage. As long as in
total that project doesn't exceed 35,000 the county is protected, the GC
makes his money for contracting out the services, and the sub performs
the services at whatever price he's negotiated with that GC. And then
the contract between the GC and the sub is what protects the sub.
MS. MARKIEWICZ: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
And that basically addresses your issue about there is no run-on.
Now, let me go back to the next issue where the Clerk -- and I'm
going to actually take these in the order in which he brought it up. He
said he relies on invoices from the general contractor that are certified,
in other words, verified invoices, they're notarized, stamped as being
true and representing, you know, what was done and what is owed; is
that correct?
MR. BROCK: Certified by your staff as having been provided on
the job.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, not certified by the contractor?
MR. BROCK: No.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And why don't you get certified
invoices from the contractors?
MR. BROCK: Well, I assume that, you know, as a government
employee and as a member of your staff that if you're going to certify
to me that the goods and services that they're submitting a bill for have
been received and used in the job, that that would be sufficient.
If I'm not any longer able to rely upon the certification of your
staff, that's fine. I don't have a problem. I can do it. But it's going to
cost a fortune.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it's not going to cost a fortune;
that's completely incorrect.
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First of all, my understanding is normally what happens in the
industry is that the contractor is supposed to present a certified invoice
that he, you know, swears as true that the labor and material that he's
charging for is what was done.
Now, you know, for you to go to our staff and ask our staff to
verify what these people have done, they're going to of course verify
what they have observed. But what bills you receive and what you are
paying on is what you have to verify independently. And if you're
looking at the cost of an underlying invoice, like a subcontractor
invoice, in the case of BQ, because the issue in the case of BQ was
fraud, or alleged fraud, because we don't know yet that it was fraud.
I believe the investigation is pending because you're engaged in your
pre-audit, so you blocked FDLE's advancement in the criminal
investigation of this matter.
But essentially what happened was supposedly the general
contractor submitted to you, at your request, the underlying invoice for
materials, and I think labor as well, but materials for sure from a
subcontractor. And you did not independently verify that that was a
legitimate third-party invoice. And it's very basic. It's a very basic
simple test. And I know you try to do it with other vendors, but you
didn't do it in that case.
MR. BROCK: Commissioner?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So let me --
MR. BROCK: I want to --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And the issue -- no, no.
MR. BROCK: I want to answer the question that you have just
broached.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Go ahead.
MR. BROCK: Now, what happens in this process is when you
submit the bill asking that it be paid through your staff, your staff signs
a certificate telling me that the goods and services that you're asking
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me to pay have in fact been received by the county.
Now, you are the body that has the person on site as the contract
administrator to ensure that that's the case.
If it's my responsibility to have that contract administrator on site,
I can do that.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We're not talking about --
MR. BROCK: But wait.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- the work performed in the case
of BQ.
MR. BROCK: In addition to that --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We're talking about the amount
invoiced from the subcontractor, which is completely different. And
you have --
MR. BROCK: No, it's not completely different.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yes, it is completely different.
You have the ability to go out and do independent confirmation of
third-party invoices. You pick up the phone, you get a copy of that
invoice and you call and you say Coastal Concrete, did you charge the
GC $6,000 or $25,000, or however much you ask, or you just leave it
blank and let them come back and verify. That's how that fraud was
uncovered.
MR. BROCK: And in a random process we do in fact do that to
some of the vendors. That is our audit.
You know, for me to go out and do that for each and every
contract, that's no longer auditing, that is contract management.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's not contract management to do
independent verification of the invoice.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ladies and Gentlemen.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Let me continue.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let me say one thing, Commissioner,
please.
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Mr. Brock is correct and you are correct. And that is the basis of
the disagreement that we have had going on between the Clerk and the
County Manager this whole time. And that is that fundamentally as
administrators of the government and County Commissioners, as
elected officials to give policy direction, have to rely upon our staff
and our system of supervision and checks for everything that we do.
We have to rely upon all these things. That's the only way these things
can be done.
In order for things to be verified and checked in a billion dollar
company, you have to have a vast system to do that. In order for Mr.
Brock to process the work that he does is a vast undertaking and
requires that many people have to assert that things are in order and
right and are signing off on a daily basis. This is happening at multiple
levels across the county.
And everything you've said is something we have to rely on. As
commissioners we have to rely upon that. We have to rely upon staff
making a decision for example that things have been delivered and
money has been spent properly and that it serves a public purpose. This
has to happen every day. It in fact goes on every day. And that's why
the system we have is good but it's also very complicated and very
cumbersome. So I really don't see the problem --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: The solution is --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- in tweaking this a little bit.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I finish what I was saying?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller, please continue.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
So the solution -- if the public policy issue is how do we protect
our subs, and if that's the issue we're dealing with and we're not dealing
with, you know, whether the Clerk is properly pre-auditing, then the
solution is very simple. You issue checks to the general contractor and
to the sub for the amount. You just cut a check in the name of both and
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you're done. And it's as simple as that. And all this other nonsense
about what percentage of subs should be in a contract is nonsense. It's
a political red herring to create an issue where there is none. If we care
so much about our subs that we want to protect them, notwithstanding
they know full well that when they're doing business with a GC they
are at risk, whether it's in the private sector or the public sector, then
let's take the next step. Because even in the private sector that can be
done.
So if we want to do something from a policy standpoint to make
sure that our subs get paid, then let's just insist that with contracts that
are under 200,000 related to construction that checks will be jointly
written to the GC and to the sub for the work done by the sub. And
then there's no concern that a sub would not be paid.
MR. BROCK: And Commissioner, you ask me to do that and I
have no problem whatsoever. But that -- I don't make the
determination as to who to pay, you make that determination.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And we can make that
determination.
MR. BROCK: All you need to do is direct me to do that and it is
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And again, this has nothing to do
with what percentage of subs are participating in a contract. You know,
a GC should have the ability to use the number of subs necessary to get
the job done to the highest level of quality at the lowest possible cost
for the benefit of the taxpayer.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I have a question.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: At a max.
And by the way, you are absolutely right, Commissioner Fiala.
Your suggestion that we should get CBIA involved looking at these
construction relationships and look at what other jurisdictions are
doing on a construction basis, both with respect to not only how we are
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contracting but how we within county government were overseeing
these projects. And I would actually be curious also to see how clerks
in other jurisdictions are doing the pre-audits of, you know, their
outside vendors as well, depending on the nature of the contracts. I
think all of that would be worthwhile exploring. We have a great
group in the CBIA, they've been good partners and we should engage
them.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But how do the contractors, when
they pay the subcontractors, don't they take like a percentage because
they're the contractors who go out and take the risk?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So you do --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So the check is made out to both. I
love that idea.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So you do a check made out to
both for the cost of the services of the sub and you do a separate check,
you know, to the GC for his cut, whatever percentage markup he's
entitled to beyond that. And that shouldn't be an issue.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let's go to Commissioner Henning and
then Commissioner Taylor who has already suggested some direction
to --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- staff and see if we can find a motion
here somewhere, because --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'd like to make a motion.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- item 11.G is becoming --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'd like to make a motion. But I'd
like to suggest one thing, and I think staff should be given the
opportunity to explain the situation with the bins which is the Davis
Boulevard allegation, because my understanding, the bins was not part
of the fraud claim in the BQ project. Is that correct, Mr. --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's not on the agenda.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, it was brought up by the
Clerk, and I think staff should have the opportunity to explain that.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: The contractor in that case signed an
affidavit that he met the contract requirements.
Again, what you brought up today, you can't handle the fraud
issue up front and it's under investigation. So he verified that he did
the work. Whether he did or he didn't, that's a different story.
We've heard a lot today and I think the direction --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Was the work done?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: The work was completed, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And was the price charged the
price agreed to?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So the only issue was whether or
not he did the work or whether he had a sub do the work?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Correct, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I see.
MR. BROCK: The price was what was agreed to?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: With respect to the bins?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yes, it was, sir. That's what was
provided.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Can I go next?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'd like to make a motion.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: We're going to Commissioner Henning,
then Commissioner Taylor, and hopefully there's some --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I make a motion?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Leo, I think you just said that
you agree with me that we shouldn't make changes to these. Right?
MR. OCHS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. So why are we arguing?
Because we're politicians. And I apologize --
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, because these are very
significant issues.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I have the floor.
Mr. Chairman, I have the floor.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Please continue, Commissioner Henning.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you.
I apologize to everybody for the lengthy discussion on this.
Hopefully my last item that I pulled from the consent doesn't take as
long, okay, because we're going to be here all day long with the
political minutia up here.
So if the County Manager is agreeable that we don't change these
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Correct.
MR. OCHS: For the term of these contracts, yes.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: For the term of these contracts.
MR. OCHS: Right.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Then with that said, I make a
motion to approve based upon what the County Manager has stated
and let's move on. It addressed everybody's concerns.
MR. OCHS: That will give us some time to come back to address
some of these process and policy issues before we get into the next
round of contracting.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I will second it for the benefit of the
county.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And quite frankly, what Joanne
said, if it was true, that if you have a contractor for the example of this
room, theoretically that, you know, didn't have the ability to do the
electrical because he wasn't qualified to do electrical, I wouldn't have a
problem with something like that because -- but it's not written in the
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change of the contract.
But in the issue of the concrete, that contractor, Newburton
(phonetic) Construction, does concrete, okay? He's not doing electrical
or something else.
But if that's the intent, be more specific in these items that come
to the Board. Thank you.
MR. OCHS: We'll do that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor. And then unless
we can conclude this, we're going to take a break for the court reporter,
because the court reporter is falling out of her chair. And I'm sorry,
ma'am, somebody should have thrown a flag over there from the
Deputy County Manager.
Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Someone should have thrown a
flag at this item a long time ago.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Does this -- there's a motion on
the floor --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- and a second. And I would
support it. But does this preclude the County Manager's Office and the
Clerk's Office working this out?
MR. BROCK: No, Commissioner. We'd be more than happy to
get with the County Manager's Office.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And presenting it to us and then
we can make that political decision. Does that preclude it?
MR. BROCK: No.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: We have a motion and a second.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: The County Manager is free to
talk to anybody, but that's up to him. I'm not going to hamstring him
or I'm not going to tell him to do it. But however, I know that he will,
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if that's what you want, Commissioner Taylor.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'm agreeable.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's what I want.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'm agreeable to that.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay, you're agreeable? Okay.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Is there any further comment?
MR. OCHS: Just to clarify, the motion is to approve this item
except for the recommended changes on the utilization of
subcontractors.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Correct.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: As it relates to these contracts.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any further comment?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
MR. BROCK: Thank you, Commissioners.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. We are now going to take a
break to 11 :20 for the court reporter's benefit. Thank you so much.
(Recess.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Chairman, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, let's get started again and see if we
can be a little more efficient in the next agenda item.
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Item #14B1
THE CRA (COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY)
BOARD TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS OPTIONS TO MARKET
AND SELL, OR DEVELOP THROUGH A PUBLIC-PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP, CRA-OWNED PROPERTY IDENTIFIED IN THE
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
CATALYST PROJECT AND PROVIDE THE PROPER
AUTHORIZATIONS TO FACILITATE THE SAME — MOTION TO
ACCEPT OPTION #3 AND BRING BACK SPECIFICATIONS AT
THE OCTOBER 7, 2015 BCC MEETING — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, this was your 11 :00 a.m. time certain. It's
Item 14.B.1 on today's agenda, a recommendation for the Community
Redevelopment Agency Board to review and discuss options to market
and sell and develop through a public/private partnership the
CRA-owned (sic) identified in the redevelopment plan for
development of a catalyst project and provide proper authorization to
facilitate the project.
Mr. County Attorney, is it appropriate for the Board to convene as
the CRA Board for this matter?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes, it is.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you. The CRA meeting is
now in session.
MS. JOURDAN: Good morning. For the record, Jean Jourdan,
Operation Manager, Bayshore/Gateway CRA.
Before the CRA Board had gone on break they had asked staff to
bring back an item which is actually dealing with the property in the
Gateway Triangle.
What we're proposing is three options for the Board to consider.
Option one would be to list the property with CRE, which is
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Commercial Real Estate Consultants, LLC. This is a company that the
purchasing department put out an RFP with and is on contract with the
county.
The second option would be over the last, well, I would say over
the summer we've had a lot of interest in the property, a lot of calls
wanting to know what we were going to do with the property, if we
were going to list it, were we accepting offers.
The second option would allow the CRA staff to work with
county real property staff, and we would actually market and accept
offers for the property and all offers would come back to the Board for
consideration.
The third option is for the CRA Board to open up a window for
interested parties to submit their proposal for pricing concept for
developing the subject property. This would include public-private
partnerships.
Option one and two, the difference between option one and two in
my opinion is that they -- option one and two and three. Option one
and two allows us to list it for a specific price. We also list in there
what we would like to see on the property and then we take offers.
Option three in the public-private partnership, there would be no price
listed. This would be that we would consider all offers from different
private partnerships, such as I know CAPA, the Cultural and
Performing Arts group is one of the groups that are here to speak today
on the item.
So these are the three options that we're asking the Board to look
at and consider, or any other options the Board feels is desirable for
how to market and sell this property.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you. I've also had some
conversation with some folks that would like to buy it outright. If that
is option two for -- to direct staff to have a window of opportunity to
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sell it outright, that is going to be -- that is my motion. Is that your
understanding what number two is?
MS. JOURDAN: Yeah, the only difference between number two
is we wouldn't have a real estate firm which would actually get the
word out there more so. We would probably get more offers. But
option two allows any real estate agent to come to us with offers. But
please note in there that it would compensate them if they did bring --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Right, that is a buyer's agent, not
a seller's agent.
MS. JOURDAN: Right.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That means the buyer needs to
pay it, not the seller.
MS. JOURDAN: We can put that in the contract, yes, in the
agreement.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, that's -- that should be
well known. That's -- anyways, that's my motion, if that's what --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Actually, I had my button on second,
although here I am now the Chairman and I shouldn't be speaking at
all. But I do -- can I do that?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, yeah.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But I would like to say that I don't
want to jump into anything -- well, this is one person's opinion only. I
don't want to jump into anything. Now, I think we ought to do a study,
I've talked to a few people about this, and actually see where this
property could go, what the highest potential is.
Because when we first started buying -- this is years back we
started buying the CRA properties. And the reason we were buying
them up is because we wanted one cohesive project rather than, you
know, a collision place and a rental place and so forth. We wanted one
project that would be a catalyst for future outstanding growth to that
area. If this triangle is purchased and managed right, you know, it can
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change the complexion of that whole area. But it has to be done
properly, it has to be done right.
And I think before we even know what would be best for the area,
maybe we ought to have a study on that. And I think the CRA board
should be the one that conducts this -- you know, hires the study group
to then meet your goals. It's your goals. And what you think is best.
You guys have been in this project for a long time. It's not
something new. And I know that you all have ideas for it. And you
would want to see the highest and best use and then you would bring it
back to us. But that's just my suggestion, okay.
And Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Me?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I don't know if I was second. I
don't think so.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, you were right after me.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I was?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. First it was Henning, then me,
now you.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: This gateway is the -- the City of
Naples, the boundaries, are pretty much set. But the City of Naples is
pretty much maxed out. And everything is moving east. It's clear. If
anyone's gone over the bridge, the Gordon River Bridge and looked at
the new Hilton, I believe it's the Hilton, the hotel, right? Hyatt, excuse
me.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: They both start with H.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: It's really going to be quite
magnificent. And it's all starting to move east.
To me the right project is -- will be the loadstar for the area. It's
going to define what we do there. And I think it's so very important to
bring the professionals in to advise us and to do a study. I like your
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idea a lot, Madam Chairman.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And, you know, we pride
ourselves in Collier County that we -- you know, we're government
that wants to do business. Well, let's prove it. Let's get some
proposals. Let's look at this with business in mind and understand that
maybe a bird in hand today is not worth what it would be if we had the
right project that would bring in the taxes and the TIF money in the
future.
So I'm not so immediate. I'd like to do a study and then make a
decision, whatever that is.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Commissioner Hiller and then we'll
go to our speakers.
How many speakers do we have, Troy?
MR. MILLER: We have three.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
I do agree that we should send this back to staff and allow staff--
and not just CRA staff necessarily, advisory board, but county staff
along with our real estate division and our IRB counsel, Industrial
Revenue Bond counsel, to explore this project. I think there's an
opportunity here, and I'm not sure what the best way to structure it is,
to take this property to market, to let the market dictate what the
highest and best use is, because that's what will increase the overall
value of that area. And to see what opportunities exist to finance that
project through an industrial revenue bond as opposed to a
public-private partnership. I like the idea of-- and CAPA and I have
worked together. I think our first meeting that we had, the first thing I
said to you is, you know, why would you want to be a partner with
government? Don't you want to own it outright and don't you want to
have the ability to make decisions independently? And their answer
was yes, absolutely.
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And I think we have a number of parties in the audience today, in
fact quite a few, all of whom are interested, and I don't think any single
one of them wouldn't prefer to stand on their own two feet and of
course maximize that value, not only financially but also to the
community of what that project can bring. And I think us dictating
that is a mistake. I think the market needs to dictate that. And
whoever would acquire the property would do so obviously with that
objective.
So I think Commissioner Fiala is absolutely right. I hear that
Commissioner Taylor supports it. We should send it back to staff. But
I wouldn't go so far as to say to do a study and to start convening
committees, but just to work with these parties and evaluate. And I
would talk to the various parties that are interested and get input from
them on what the optimal way to bring this back to the Board to put it
out there for a solicitation.
And I also have to agree with Commissioner Henning, to the
extent that any brokers are compensated it will be by the buyer. And
all appropriate disclosures by that broker would have to be made,
unlike the last transaction where no disclosures were made to the
county and then we had this, you know, alleged commission claim.
So if-- Commissioner Fiala, if you would make a motion to, you
know, like a modified motion to just send this back to staff-- did
Commissioner Henning make a motion?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: He made a --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: He did, but I didn't see a second.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: There wasn't a second.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: There was no second.
Can you make a -- since that fails, can you make a motion?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I respect that request and I would be
happy to. But I first want to hear from Commissioner Nance. And I
want to hear from the speakers because they might lend a different
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light to us before I make a motion.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Thank you.
Numerous people have contacted me, you know, relatively
quickly after the last offer didn't prove fruitful. I sincerely hope that
there's big bold ideas that can come forward on this. I think the last
individual actually had a concept that he just couldn't bring to light.
But, you know, I will just kick the elephant in the middle of the
room and I'll say almost everybody that's talked to me has said, you
know what, to really do something really exciting, we need more
density. And I said well, you're talking to the wrong commissioner.
You know, if you want to provide a concept that's big and bold and
different, then I'm going to be looking to the commissioners. I'm going
to be looking to Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner Fiala for
their blessing before we do anything like that.
But I hope that what we come out of today allows people to open
up the box and come out with something exciting. And, you know, if
they can satisfy those commission districts that, you know, things are
going to be compatible and it's going to be a great project, then I will
certainly entertain their lead. So that's all I have to say.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Great. Thank you very much.
Sir, will you call our speakers.
MR. MILLER: Yes, ma'am. Your first public speaker is Dwight
Richardson. He'll be followed by Jerry Starky.
MR. RICHARDSON: Do you want to say something more?
MS. JOURDAN: No.
MR. RICHARDSON: Good morning, Commissioners, and
Chairman Nance.
My name is Dwight Richardson. I'm on the board of directors of
Bayshore -- used to be Bayshore Cultural and Performing Arts Center.
And as you probably know, our mission is to provide to the
community affordable cultural educational and performance
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opportunities while developing a new performing arts center. And we
put it in that order because we've been before you before a couple of
years ago trying to accomplish a public-private partnership on the 17
acres that you had the point of view then which prevailed that we in
some way would have to purchase it and not have county as a landlord.
So it got appraised and came back with a $3 million tag, which
we were unable to move forward on at that time and bring forth this
public-private partnership on that property.
So here we are fast forward two years later and lo and behold
another CRA property is in front of us and that's the 5.3 acres that is in
the triangle; in the golden triangle as I look at it.
And certainly the other speakers and myself agree that this is a
real jewel and an opportunity. And we're hoping that the county will
leave it open, as someone has suggested, to try to see what we can
work out.
But I've got to tell you, the real key point here is how much --
how forward looking the county really wants to be relative to the use
of this property.
If you are saying, as Commissioner Henning is suggesting, we
should go and define highest and best use, meaning the most money
we can get for this project right now, for this property right now, then
we're up against it. Because as a public-private partnership group, be it
CAPA or be it what Jerry Starky is going to represent, or be it Opera
Naples, the principal people that are interested in trying to get their act
together and work on this, we have to have some -- ultimately we have
to have some skin in the game from the county, meaning the property.
If you're holding the property out and saying that we have to
come up with 5.3 or 2 or whatever the million dollars are to buy that
property before we can even go forward, then we're basically dead in
the water. Because it's difficult to pull together a big project like this
and finance it and show you we can finance it with that hanging over
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our head.
If the county really is visionary, and this is going into the macro
into the minutia we've been talking about, if the county is really serious
about this and recognizes the value of this property, then we would
look for them to put forth that property to the public-private
partnership and challenge us to come back with the right kind of
project that meets your specifications.
Now, that's different than what is being really laid out for you
from staff
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you, Dwight. Your time was
up.
MR. RICHARDSON: Time was up? I didn't even get started.
So we are supportive of the other parties that will be speaking to
you to see if we can't work something out.
But just one final comment. I would remind you that there's a
new statute on the books from Florida that was put in motion adopted
June 27th, 2013, and it's HB-85. And this specifically governs
public-private partnerships with responsible entities like yourself So
anything we do is going to have to be governed by that and not the way
it used to be handled.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Dwight, thank you very, very much.
Maybe you can get that and distribute to all of us. You can send it via
email or something so we can all read that.
MR. RICHARDSON: It's 28 pages. I'll be happy to do it.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Next -- what?
MR. RICHARDSON: It's 28 pages, I read it all.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh gosh.
Troy, would you --
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Jerry Starky. He'll be
followed by John Agnelli.
MR. STARKY: Good morning. Appreciate the opportunity to
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speak to you. I'm Jerry Starky. I come here to offer some perspective.
I'm a member of the community, and I've been in the development
business in Florida since 1988, principally as president and CEO of
two reasonably sized companies here, Florida Design Communities,
who was also the successor to WCI in a reverse merger back in 1995.
And as the leader of WCI over a pretty significant period of time
we developed a few communities right here. Bay Colony, Estates of
Bay Colony, Pelican Marsh, Tiburon, Hammock Bay, Tarpon Bay,
Cove Towers, Tarpon Bay --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Artesia.
MR. STARKY: Tarpon Bay, Artesia. So quite a few
communities.
And the point I think I'd like to underscore is that you've all heard
that the three most important things in real estate is location, location
and location. What I've found over the years is that sometimes folks
locally get jaundice about a location and they don't see the big picture.
And I think that might be the case at this location. I've heard
some say this is a diamond in the rough but I would suggest perhaps
it's just a diamond. This site is about eight-tenths of a mile from what
most of us that have lived here a long time consider Fifth Avenue
starting. It's a mile and a half away from the beach.
When we planned to build Pelican Marsh people said it wouldn't
be successful, it's too far north. When we planned Tiburon they said it
won't be successful, it's too far east. When we introduced the Hyatt
Coconut Pointe up in Bonita Springs it was said, you know, Bonita
Springs is too sleepy for a luxury resort. And of course it's been pretty
successful.
So I'd like to submit that this location is a very important location.
It's the -- you could consider it the terminus of Fifth Avenue and the
gateway to East Naples.
I think that what Commissioner Henning said is very important.
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This needs a big bold project, it needs big bold thinking.
I would also suggest that the discussion about public-private
partnership is not so much a legal public-private partnership, but even
perhaps a strategic public-private partnership. So oftentimes the public,
you own the land so you're in the mix to begin with, whether you sell it
or whether you enter into a public-private partnership.
I think the important point that I would support today is that the
commission take the time to step back, study the uses. I personally
believe that this is a site that could incorporate public uses, cultural arts
uses, but also most importantly it will be driven by private uses that
create synergy and iconic development, entertainment, restaurants,
retail, probably a hotel, potentially a conference center and a large
residential component. I would suggest that this development would
support a half a million or more square feet of usable space and that
you would be able to add 250 to $500 million of value to your tax
rolls.
Now, this is a big bold project. It probably would require some
additional density. In fact, no doubt that it would. But a project like
that would certainly cast the future of East Naples, it would certainly
stimulate and become a catalyst for future development and building
future values. And if I step back as a citizen, I think that's what you as
the commissioners are interested in, certainly what I'm interested in as
a taxpayer in Collier County.
So whether it's a public-private partnership legally, whether it's a
public-private partnership strategically, I think stepping back and
taking the time to entertain proposals on a broader basis is the right
direction. And thank you for your time.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you, Mr. Starky. Very, very
good points. I think you're right on the button with a catalyst for that
area. Because that's what we're looking for. It can make or break that
entire area. I mean, all the way down U.S. 41, it can start right there.
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MR. MILLER: Your final speaker is John Agnelli.
MR. AGNELLI: Thank you, Commissioners. My name is John
Agnelli, for the record. I'm vice president of Power Realty, also the
real estate broker.
While Power Realty would be happy to market the property for
the county at no cost, we have a very well qualified client who would
be interested in working with the county, and we strongly support
Commissioner Fiala's suggestion about doing a study as to what to do
with the area.
We should not forget that Mr. Fortino owns the westerly two
acres on the point of the triangle. And whatever happens to the east of
that is going to have to work with Mr. Fortino and make it what I agree
with pretty well everything that Mr. Starky has said, but to make that
property blossom as it should blossom. But don't forget about the
point. Because that's owned by someone else, not the county.
I think what you're saying, Commissioner Fiala, is a great idea
and that Mr. Fortino should be involved in that planning. We'd like to
be involved and we'd like to see this thing become a real jewel to
Naples. And I've been involved in the development with it for a while
too. So thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you, John. Yeah, there are 14
properties here, folks. This is -- we're not just talking about the five
totaled. If this project is done correctly all 14 properties would need to
be included in order to do it right.
So Commissioner Hiller, your button is on. I mean -- I'm looking
at you and saying Hiller. Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Depending on what we decide
today, and I like option three a lot. And I would hopefully -- basically
it's asking the CRA board to open up a window for interested parties to
submit proposals for the price and concept for developing the subject
property.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, do you first want to do a
study?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. Well, I think that's part of
it, isn't it? Wouldn't that be part of it?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That study is a new thing
coming up from this dais. I don't know where it's coming from.
We've got a note on this property. This whole partnership, I
didn't propose it. Partnership, public-private partnerships is a big
sucking sound of tax dollars that we have.
There's a note on this. The CRA doesn't have the money.
Leo, do you have money to be the public partnership to pay this
loan?
MR. OCHS: No, sir. You have a balloon payment in June of
2018 of about 4.8 million is the estimate at that point.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You know, kick it down the
road. You have some people who want to buy it outright. But I guess
I'm going to be on the losing end on this one.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I think we've got time.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You had good ideas, Commissioner
Henning. You're never on the losing end, you always have good ideas.
But let me just -- I'm going to make a motion here then. I haven't
heard one so far. I've heard a couple but I'm going to make this motion.
I want to say we cannot just think about paying off that debt this
year or this time or this month. I think CRA probably needs to go back
and see if they can't rent out those properties to help them make the
payments until we can move forward. Because this property can mean
so much to the tax increment funding, the TIF funding for this area.
And it can -- if you just take the first pot of money and grab it and go,
you never know what you're going to come up with and they might sell
it off piece by piece and that's really going to be a problem and you'll
never attain what value this property could hold for us and for the
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future.
And you can't be blindsided about the benefits of it because you're
worried about paying off the bill. And I know you're worried about
paying off the bill and I know we have to get that. But if there's some
way that we can work this out and maybe we can figure that out
through this study and I think we ought to give us a time limit. I don't
think this ought to be lingering. I think you ought to have a time study.
And I would like to suggest before the end of the year we have a
study that comes in to tell us what is best for not only that property and
the surrounding properties, all 14 acres, but then best for the
community behind it. How can the community benefit? Because
taxpayers are going to benefit. As you bring the values of that area up,
taxpayers are also going to benefit by it. And certainly the CRA will.
So I make a motion to have the CRA Board -- I'm sorry, advisory
board put together a study group that you feel is reliable and best for
that area, and come back with conclusions to hand to us as the CRA
Board before the end of this year. And with the object of this area
being a catalyst for the growth in that area.
Yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I make a suggestion? I don't
know that the CRA Board is equipped to do a study like that. I think
that's a very difficult challenge for --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, but they wouldn't do the
study.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think if we have staff do a study
and then solicit comment from the CRA Board and then incorporate
those comments and then bring that back to the Board, it might be a
better way to do it and less burdensome. Because we have qualified
staff.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Could we have CRA staff work with
that staff?
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, yeah.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Because, I mean, CRA is a particular
animal that, you know, not many people have ever worked with. And I
just want to make sure that they get the --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, yeah.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- highest and best use out of that
study.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I agree with you. And I think, you
know, our CRA staff is part of county staff now, you know, as it is.
So I think they'll all work together. And we want our real estate staff,
the IRB counsel, everybody involved, and then take it and get
comment from the advisory board and then bring it to the Board.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Jean, do you have a problem or a
suggestion?
MS. JOURDAN: No, you had just made the comment about
leasing out the buildings. Because it's my understanding from the
budget department that next year we won't be able to meet the
qualifications of the loan as far as our -- as far as our income goes.
And according to that loan we're supposed to shut down operations at
that time and everything goes directly to the loan payment, all of our
TIF money, so we have that to consider.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I've had about three or four
people already contact me to rent.
MS. JOURDAN: But that's what I'm asking is no one's really
given us exact direction to go ahead and start renting those properties
out again.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But that's not on the agenda.
That's not part of this issue. That needs to --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But we can add that right into this so
that can support them until we --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think we should bring that back at
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the next meeting as an executive summary and --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- do that. Because, I mean, it's not
here right now. I mean --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Because even if say for instance the
beginning of the year somebody comes in, says I love that plan, I love
that study and I want it, but they're not going to be building anything
on it for a few years --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And the only --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- until they get their plans together.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Absolutely. And the thing that we
have to be careful of is any lease commitment that we entered into, if
we're putting it on the market, then we can't have extended leases that
would preclude a --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Right.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- potential purchaser from having
the ability to develop it the way they want.
So I think, you know, pulling that all together with staff, bringing
it back to us, you know, with respect to the leasing in consideration of
potential sales --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's a very good point. So would
you bring that back to us, Leo?
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, absolutely. I just wanted to make a
quick comment, and maybe it would be instructive by way of history
here. We're talking about bringing a plan back for this area. And I'm
going to ask Jean to kind of give you the history on how we got to the
overlay that's there. I mean, I think we've already done that initial --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, this is --
MR. OCHS: Right?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, it's about the future, Leo, not
the past. It's about looking at what we have based on the zoning and
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the area, and what it could be --
MR. OCHS: Right.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- based on the keen business and
development minds that we have in Naples or wherever. And they'll
come back and talk, present -- of course bring the CRA involved and
present to them. But ultimately it's going to come back to us hopefully
with concepts about, you know,just from a very pure business sense
what could work there.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Commissioner -- I'm sorry,
Commissioner Nance, you wanted to say something?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Ladies, I'm going to tell you what
I'm thinking here. You've been talking and studying about this
property for years and years and years. Now in the last month I've got
people -- I got the phone -- my cell phone won't turn off because I've
got people saying you know I'm interested, you know I'm interested.
You're going to do a study and what are you going to know after you
do a study? You're not going to know anything. You're going to have
the best study in the world if you'll just let these people come to you
with an offer. They're going to tell you what -- they're going to give
you the ultimate market study, which is what you've got to have at the
end of the day anyway.
So I think you're just dragging this out, I think you're going to
lose a lot of momentum, I think you're making a mistake by studying
this any further. Go out and let the free market economy tell you what
these people can do. These are professionals of the highest order.
Naples and Collier County, Southwest Florida is full of them. Just go
out and give them a shot.
I agree with Commissioner Henning, I don't think we need to
study this anymore. Let's study it, let's let somebody come in here and
make a dazzling best offer, convince you guys of it and I'll support it.
But I think studying this and kicking it down the road is just not the
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thing to do.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So don't even consider a
public-private partnership?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: No, consider it, just let these people
come and tell you. They're the ones that have got checks in their
pocket.
MR. OCHS: That's the pricing concept that's out there.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Pricing concept. Bring it out here,
let it get going. You've got a whole roomful of people that are ready to
start making appointments with you right now. What do you want to
do, you're going to do a study, rent out the property. Oh, my God,
we've already been through that. It wasn't very satisfying the first time
through.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We've got to rent. We've got to
get some income, so I would say that that's number one --
COMMISSIONER NANCE: There's some people that are going
to give you some income.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, but maybe until that time,
because no matter who's going to get it, maybe if we bring back at least
a contract, as Commissioner Hiller suggested, for like one year at a
time, just that we can get some income so that their work in the
community, the rest of the community isn't stifled.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I would say think about it. But let
these people come forward. Good gracious. I just can't support another
study or dragging it out. I think it's a momentum breaker.
I can just feel the energy in this room and it's not even my district,
okay. They're calling me and I'm like go to these other commissioners
and dazzle them.
So I'm your greatest fan, your greatest advocate. I'm just telling
you, get going down the road here. Let them bring something to you.
Don't slow this train down. It's a good train.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Would you like to make that
motion? Because we haven't had a motion yet that was seconded.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay, so let me make a motion
then.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Before we make a motion, can I
just make one suggestion? Can we get input from the County Manager
as to what direction he thinks we should go right now? I mean, he
more realistically knows whether we should, you know, put it out for
sale, if we should, how, or if we should do what was suggested here
which is, you know, evaluate other options like industrial revenue
bond financing as an example? Do you mind if we --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You can ask the CRA director too.
Okay, Leo.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: The only reason I'm asking Leo,
even though I know Jean is an expert on the area, there are other
issues, like the bank debt, which is, you know, within Mark's purview.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, but we've missed a few good
things that we should have gotten that we didn't. And not in the CRA
so much as other areas. And so I don't think we ought to continue to
focus on bottom line rather than the benefits that can be derived if we
take our time and do it right.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Absolutely. And that's why I
would like to hear from the County Manager.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. You know where I was
going, Leo.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am. My recommendation would be that
you entertain this pricing concept methodology because it gives the
Board the greatest latitude. It doesn't limit necessarily any proposer;
they can propose to buy it outright with a development plan or they can
propose a public-private partnership. But it leaves the Board all of
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those options to consider and it moves the ball down the road.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So how would we put this out to
bid? How would you prepare that?
MR. OCHS: Commissioner, I'd give it to your real estate folks
and Jean and the CRA advisory committee put together a specification.
And in this case because it's so important, I would probably bring that
specification back to all on an agenda to look at and get you to approve
it before we put it out on the street, if that works for the CRA Board.
That way you know exactly what's in the specifications.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We're talking about option three.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We have to competitively sell it. I
mean, if we put it out we have --
MR. KLATZKOW: You do not have to competitively sell it.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We don't?
MR. KLATZKOW: No. This is a CRA. You can get the highest
price if that's what you wish, and you do have an outstanding note
that's coming due. Or you can decide for public purpose would you
rather do this instead. You'll have to figure out how to finance your
debt, but you can do that.
So I think Leo's proposal is spot on, quite frankly.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But Jean, how do you feel about --
do you agree with --
MS. JOURDAN: I agree.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay, so now we've got a couple
agreements, but this is your district, go ahead.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'll make a motion that we follow
option three. And I know there is an issue -- and that at maybe our
next meeting you can --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Could you make it the first meeting
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in October?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, yes, the first meeting in
October you bring back to us the specs on what is going out so that we
can bless it or change it. And that we let Collier County and everyone
else know that we're open for business and we want to see some big
and bold, did you say, Commissioner Nance?
COMMISSIONER NANCE: I'm trying to push them to you,
ma'am.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, I'm happy about it. Come.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Mr. Disney shows up, I'll send him
to you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'll second the motion.
Do you want to include with that to bring back an idea as far as
renting these properties go --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- to help sustain them until the sale
takes place, or what?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And if it's all right with you,
maybe we could do it at the next agenda.
MR. OCHS: Well --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Go ahead.
MS. JOURDAN: I think if we're going to move forward without
the study, I believe that we can sell this quickly, that we will get
everything together. I think you're going to get these grandiose plans,
so I don't think you want to put someone in there right now. If you
were going to draw it out and have the study and it was going to take a
long time -- a lot of people when they want to lease something, it takes
them a lot of money to move into a place, so they don't want a very
short-term lease because it's costing them money to get into that
building and get it up and running.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I've got somebody right now. It's
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a 501c3 and they support three major charities that need storage.
MS. JOURDAN: Oh, for the automobile?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. They would move in
tomorrow and on a month-to-month basis without any major
commitment from us.
MS. JOURDAN: I will send you the information on that,
Commissioner Taylor. Because they had asked once, we had gone to
Risk Management in Real Property Department and there was reasons
that they recommended against it, so I'll send you that information.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So I'll second your motion.
So we have a motion on the floor and a second to follow option
three or to choose option three and to move forward, and we're going
to be bringing that back on the first meeting in October, which is what,
the 7th of October, I think it is. It is, okay. Good.
Okay, all in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Opposed, like sign.
(No response.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Very good. That motion carries and
the CRA meeting is closed.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: At this time we're going to take an hour
for break so the Board's in recess for lunch until 1:00.
(Luncheon recess.)
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome back for the afternoon session of the Board of County
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Commissioners.
Mr. Ochs, where are we, please?
Item #7
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE
CURRENT OR FUTURE AGENDA
MR. OCHS: Sir, we're on Item 7, public comments on general
topics not on the current or future agenda.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Miller, our registered speakers,
please?
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, at this time we have no speakers
registered for public comment.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: No speakers registered for public
comment. Very well.
Mr. Ochs?
Item #10B
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE
ADDING AN AGENDA ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER 10, 2015
LEGISLATIVE WORKSHOP FOR THE CONSERVANCY OF
SOUTHWEST FLORIDA TO PRESENT A TEN MINUTE
INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION PROPOSING
ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE LEGISLATIVE
PRIORITIES FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE 2016 LEGISLATIVE
SESSION — MOTION TO DENY — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, that takes us to Item 10.B on your
agenda. This is a recommendation that the Board approves adding an
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agenda item to the September 10, 2015 legislative workshop for The
Conservancy of Southwest Florida to present a 10-minute
informational presentation proposing environmentally responsible
legislative priorities for consideration in the 2016 legislative session.
Commissioner Taylor brought this item forward on the agenda.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I asked that they be added to the
agenda, which would be our workshop on the 10th of September,
which is on Thursday, for a very simple reason. The Conservancy is a
venerable 50-year-old institution with over 6,000 members. And we
are at the edge of the Everglades. And the Everglades is extremely
important and recognized internationally as a tourist destination. It
contributes to the economy of our area. And because The
Conservancy specializes in environmental policy, including
establishing Rookery Bay 50 years ago, I think that they are unique
and they are ours. They started in Collier County, they're our
environmental agency. But they're also recognized statewide and I
would think nationally. So that's why I ask that they be allowed to be
on the workshop agenda for a presentation.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: In other words, what you're saying is
could we please put them on the workshop agenda.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's what this is all about.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes, that's it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: You know, I completely
appreciate, Commissioner Taylor, what you're selling. And The
Conservancy is a very longstanding established organization in the
community. But there are many just like The Conservancy. And my
concern is if we do it for one, we do it for others. I think it's not
appropriate to select one group over another group. I think they should
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speak under public comment. They have the ability to speak longer if
they want to because they can pool minutes together from various
speakers. But I think we're setting a difficult precedent that I don't
think is appropriate.
So this has nothing to do with Conservancy, it's just precedent
setting in an inappropriate way. And I wouldn't want to -- I wouldn't
want us to do this for one group and not do it for another. It would be
problematic.
So, I mean, I wouldn't be able to support it for that reason. But I
understand your intent, I know your intent is positive and I know you
mean well by proposing it, but I do think it just presents problems. It's
a fairness issue for down the road and precedent setting.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, I took my button off, but all I
thought of when I read it was when they wanted a 10-minute
allocation, well, they get that 10 minutes anyway. They just get three
people to sign up for them.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: They've been chastised from this
dais about doing this before, and so they're reluctant to do it again.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Good.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well everybody else does it.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I know, I know.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And Commissioner Taylor, they
shouldn't be chastised because the manner in which they can present is
the same for everybody else. And we in fact -- before you came on
Board one of the issues we had is like people repeating, repeating,
repeating. And we even created a public speaking template to give
organizations the opportunity to pool minutes so that they could speak
if they're speaking on behalf of a larger group, for example. And we
said that, you know, any particular person or group can be the
spokesperson for a group of people on a particular issue.
So I don't think they've been prejudiced. I don't believe any one --
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you know, when Commissioner Henning was chair I don't believe he
prejudiced them. I know I didn't, because I've always supported them.
And I know Commissioner Nance never has. And I know
Commissioner Fiala hasn't.
So if they feel like that, it's unfortunate. But I don't think that
they're being dealt with unfairly.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Would they be allowed to -- they
wouldn't be allowed to do a PowerPoint, though if they're --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Under their public comment when
they speak? Sure. They can do whatever they'd like.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: We have people coming up here
giving PowerPoints as part of their speech. And usually they have a
couple of people that offer their time so that they can do their
PowerPoint, yeah.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. Again, and I can respect
this issue of fairness, but I think The Conservancy is unique. And as I
say, they're ours. And, you know, they are respected statewide and
they certainly are respected in our county, and I just thought, you
know, that would set them apart from other environmental agencies.
But if it doesn't -- you know, if the motion doesn't carry, it doesn't
carry.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And that's really the issue, it's
setting them apart. And we have to treat them all equally. That's the
key.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let me tell you from my perspective
what is important to me as a commissioner.
The Conservancy above all people that communicate with the
Board of County Commissioners has done an excellent job
communicating detail on complicated topics from their point of view.
And they are an ad advocacy group and they do have a strong point of
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view. And when they send me information in advance, when I have
time to read it and digest it prior to a meeting or agenda item, it's most
useful to me. When something gets thrown on the counter or it gets
passed out on the dais, it's very hard for a person to go through there
on a complicated topic and make any sense out of it. So I very much
appreciate that.
So, you know, from the standpoint if they, you know, present
information to the commissioners in advance -- you know, their
PowerPoint presentation was already attached to this item. I can see
what it is, I can take a look at it, I'm prepared to discuss it when they
come into the room. I think it's actually more productive for them to
do that than to come with a big PowerPoint presentation. I mean, I
don't think there's anything in there that can't be explained under
comment.
Now, you know, clearly the workshop of the Board of County
Commission is not a forum for them to advocate from. It's a meeting
designed to give us information for them to be able to tell us what they
would like to see from their perspective and what their
recommendations are. So I tend to agree with Commissioner Hiller.
Commissioner Henning, do you have any comments, sir?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: No comments.
Public speakers, please.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, we have three registered speakers.
Your first speaker is Charlotte Nycklemoe, I think I'm doing that right.
She'll be followed by Bonnie Michaels.
MS. NYCKLEMOE: Thank you. Congratulations for
pronouncing my name correctly. I'm always interested in hearing how
that's going to come about.
I'm Charlotte Nycklemoe, I'm the newly elected president of the
League of Women Voters for Collier County for the years 2015, 2016.
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And I'm very grateful to be here. Thank you for your time.
The League of Women Voters has long been committed to
policies which protect Florida's natural resources, especially our life
blood, water. Given that commitment, we respectfully request your
support for Commissioner Taylor's recommendation to add an
informational session on our county's environmental legislative
priorities to Thursday's workshop.
In addition to the League's commitment, we know Collier County
residents are keenly aware of the importance of environmental
protection and highly value the natural environment in which they live.
Consider that over three-quarters of our voters supported passage
of the Florida Water and Land Conservation Amendment, and when
opportunity Naples asked residents what's the best thing about greater
Naples, and what is greater Naples greatest strength, you can guess the
words which dominated: Weather, our beaches, nature and
environment.
Clearly attention to our environmental legislative priorities at
Thursday's workshop is warranted.
And it is fitting the Conservancy make a presentation. First
because the large number of Conservancy members reflect the
community's confidence in the knowledge, expertise and work of The
Conservancy.
Secondly, because the issues they raise, most especially those
regarding water quality and needed oil regulation, legislation, mirrored
those of the League of Women Voters of Florida.
The league as a member of the Everglades Coalition and as a
partner with Barry Law School's Environmental Law Clinic has
identified components of protective oil drilling regulations,
components which align with information to be presented by The
Conservancy.
Thank you very much for your time.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Bonnie Michaels. She'll be
followed by Caitlin Weber.
MS. MICHAELS: Hi, welcome back. Bonnie Michaels,
representing Collier Citizens for Sustainability.
This is such a complicated issue. I mean, I read everything that I
possibly can about fracking, oil and water, and I'm still confused. And
I believe that we can never have enough information. And if The
Conservancy is willing to do this for us, why not? Ten minutes. And,
you know, the issue of there are a lot of other conservation
organizations, there are, but The Conservancy really has done the
major research on how it affects our water. And I think that's a public
issue.
It really can't do any harm. So think about it again. We might
learn something. You know, the technical issues are just
overwhelming and 10 minutes really isn't a lot. So think about it.
Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your final speaker on this item is Caitlin Weber.
MS. WEBER: Good afternoon. Caitlin Weber here on behalf of
The Conservancy of Southwest Florida.
We've been tracking bills in the legislature, particularly those
relevant to Southwest Florida related to water quality, oil extraction,
growth management and stormwater management. And we'd like to
share the information we have regarding environmental issues relevant
to Collier County which we anticipate will arise this legislative
session.
We're requesting a presentation slot at the Commission's
workshop on Thursday to provide information that we hope would be
useful to you in setting your legislative priorities to protect Collier's
exceptional natural resources and quality of life, and we thank you for
considering our request.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. You know, it sounds like you
wouldn't think that you could have 10 minutes, but each of us have told
you already, you certainly can have -- I mean, you could have 12 min--
however many minutes you want, as long as you get people up. You
don't want to put people to sleep because then they get a little
aggravated, so you want to probably stop at 10 or 12 minutes. But you
can do that. And you were talking about PowerPoint, or somebody
was talking about PowerPoint before.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I was.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And although there's one in here, I
think the purpose of your PowerPoint's not only for us to see but it's for
the public to see. And so you bring your PowerPoint with you.
I don't believe -- I've been here 15 years and I don't think ever
once anybody from The Conservancy has been denied the podium.
They just haven't in all of that time. So you can have that time. It's
just that, you know, we don't want to start a precedent. Because there
are a lot of other environmental agencies. I belong to CREW, and they
strictly are protecting our future water sources, and they don't get a
chance to do that really. I mean, they could if you wanted to, they
could do that. And of course then you have Nancy Payton and you
have the Florida Wildlife -- well, that is Nancy Payton, isn't it? You've
got --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Audubon.
MR. OCHS: Audubon.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, Audubon. Yeah, there's so
many of them that want to get up. And they're all welcome to do that.
Everybody's welcome to do that. So I don't think we need a specific
spot for 10 minutes. You can have it, is my opinion. I don't know if
anybody else agrees, but -- of course they agree, nobody would say no.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: As a courtesy, and I think it's really
important, could you possibly give the speakers who were here today a
copy of our policy on public speaking, and also on introducing
documents in the record? We have two policies. And if you could
provide that to them, that would be great so they know what -- you
know, what their opportunities are to present to the Board.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: The Conservancy knows better than
anybody. And they always follow that. They always send us things in
advance so we're prepared.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I just want to make sure that
everybody --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There were two other speakers also that
were not with The Conservancy.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right, like the League of Women
Voters.
I want to make sure they know. Because the Board has worked
very, very hard on developing a really reasonable template that would
benefit everybody equally and give everybody the opportunity to be
heard. And I just want to make sure you have that. And not only your
voice heard but any documents admitted on the record, there's a
protocol for that also, and we treat everybody the same. Thank you.
Do we need a motion on this, Chair?
MR. KLATZKOW: It's an action item. I mean --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Motion to deny.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion to deny and a second.
Any further comment?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All those opposed?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Opposed.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: 4-1, with Commissioner Taylor in
dissent.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And for the reasons stated, I do
believe The Conservancy is unique in its organization. It really started
as a grassroots organization and I believe it does an extraordinarily
exemplary job in environmental issues. So I feel that they're set apart
and they should be granted that privilege, but that's the way the Board
voted today. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Still giving them the same privilege,
just --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So it's my understanding that on
Thursday, if they had three -- if they had the number of speakers for
the length of their presentation, they could present a PowerPoint at that
time?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's not my motion that we
voted on.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, the motion's over.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: They'll be there, ma'am. They'll be there.
Mr. Ochs?
Item #11A
AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH GREATER NAPLES
FIRE RESCUE DISTRICT TO PROVIDE FIRE SERVICES TO
THE ISLES OF CAPRI FIRE DISTRICT AND TO SUPPORT
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LEGISLATION TO ANNEX THE ISLES OF CAPRI FIRE
DISTRICT AND COLLIER COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT (DISTRICT
ONE) INTO THE GREATER NAPLES FIRE RESCUE DISTRICT —
APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, we move to Item 11.A. It is a
recommendation to approve an interlocal agreement with Greater
Naples Fire Rescue District to provide fire services to the Isles of Capri
Fire District and to support legislation to annex the Isles of Capri Fire
District and Collier County Fire District 1 into the Greater Naples Fire
Rescue District.
Ms. Price, your Administrative Services Department Head, will
present.
MS. PRICE: Good afternoon, Commissioners. For the record,
Len Price, Administrative Services Department Head.
Over the summer staff and the fire district have worked very
closely to present you an agreement that I believe everybody is happy
with. It takes care of our employees, it gives us time to merge together
thoughtfully, methodically, systematically in a way that I think protects
the interest of the citizens, the interest of the employees and the interest
of the county.
I did not present a formal presentation for you. If you've got any
questions of me or we have Commissioner Jeff Page and Fire Chief
Kingman Schuldt are here as well. They can either address the Board
or answer any of your questions.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller, then
Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'd like to make a motion to
approve. I really think that what we have going on in your district,
Chiefs, and what we have going on at the north end of the county is the
direction we want to go in. And I think both this motion and the
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COPCN with the expansion of the boundaries for Big Corkscrew is the
right action on both counts.
I mean, what we want to do is provide the highest level of service
in terms of saving lives, because that is clearly what the objective is
here.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second the motion.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you. Thank you. And I just
-- I really like the direction we're going in, both north and -- I'll call it
north and south, if you will. Not -- I mean, there's east and west
included in that north and south. But just to -- does that make sense?
Is that a fair description, north-south?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. In other words, motion to
approve.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to approve. I think I said it.
Got it. That's it.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Are we voting on one item?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: 11.A, right?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: 11.A.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I wanted to make sure.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and second on the floor.
Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Ms. Price, this interlocal
agreement, I mean, we're really blessing something that's already been
discussed at length earlier, and with the details we talked about and the
testimony we heard here.
MS. PRICE: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. Good, thank you.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any further comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any public speakers?
MR. MILLER: No public speakers for this item.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: No public speakers.
Any further comment from the Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second to
approve. Seeing no further comment, all those in favor, signify by
saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed, like sign.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Passes unanimously.
Thank you, Ms. Price.
MS. PRICE: Thank you.
Item #11B
TO CONSIDER THE NORTH COLLIER FIRE CONTROL AND
RESCUE DISTRICT'S REQUEST TO EXPAND THEIR SERVICE
AREA TO INCLUDE THE FORMER BIG CORKSCREW ISLAND
FIRE CONTROL AND RESCUE DISTRICT; RENEW THE
ANNUAL CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND
NECESSITY (COPCN) FOR NON-TRANSPORT ADVANCED
LIFE SUPPORT (ALS) SERVICES; AND, IF THE SERVICE
AREA IS EXPANDED, APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE
INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND BIG
CORKSCREW ISLAND FIRE CONTROL AND RESCUE
DISTRICT — MOTION TO APPROVE — FAILED
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MR. OCHS: 11.B requires ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Participants are required to be sworn in. This
is a recommendation to consider the North Collier Fire Control and
Rescue District's request to expand their service area to include the
former Big Corkscrew Island Fire Control and Rescue District, to
renew the annual Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity for
Non-transport Advanced Life Support Services, and if the service area
is expanded, approve an amendment through the Interlocal Agreement
Advanced Life Support Partnership between Collier County and Big
Corkscrew Island Fire Control and Rescue District.
Mr. Summers, your Director of the Bureau of Emergency
Services will present or respond to questions.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Excuse me, point of order. Are
we voting on these things separately or are we just going to let this
unfold and then make a decision?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, there's three items here. I think it's
going to get to be a very rigorous conversation. But there are three
items: There's expanding the service area, renewing the Annual
Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity, and there's also the
Interlocal Agreement.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So you're anticipating that these
will be --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, I think it's going to unfold.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Do you want to swear everyone in?
Please rise if you plan to testify.
(All speakers were duly sworn.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, ex parte communication. You
want to repeat it for the record, Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. Many conversations about
this issue. Received several emails over the course of I'd say about
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four months, three to four months. Certainly it started before. And
some conversations with staff regarding this.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, I've spoken to Orly Stolts and
I've spoken to George Aguilera, probably with Jerry in passing, and I
can't remember if it was Jerry, but I'll throw it in anyway just to make
sure I didn't omit it. I've spoken to them on the phone as well as in
meetings here and there. I've spoken with -- no, I haven't spoken with
him. Okay, I think that's everybody.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, I've spoken with Chief Stolts and
numerous commissioners and staff from various fire districts on the
topic. I've had letters from the North Collier Fire Control and Rescue
District. There's a whole lot of emails attached in my file here for your
view, and I've also had numerous conversations and meetings with
staff and citizens on the topic.
Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I've had meetings both with staff
and with Chief Stolts and Aguilera.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I've had meetings with North
Collier staff, North Collier Fire Commissioners, county staff, received
a correspondence from Janet Vasey and other interested citizens about
this issue.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I did also receive some emails and
some phone calls. Thank you for reminding me. And I spoke to -- I
think it was Kingman Schuldt as well.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Summers?
MR. SUMMERS: Mr. Chairman, good afternoon. Dan
Summers, Director of the Bureau of Emergency Services and
Emergency Management.
You took a little bit of my thunder there; you did a nice job of
outlining the three components here that I thought were important to
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communicate to you in the executive summary.
I am making a recommendation for this approval. And I'll just
share with you again, because there are a lot of components to this, I
will share with you what I think are the three or four most valuable
points in this recommendation.
First of all, it was requested and the Public Safety Authority did
take a look at this and spend a considerable amount of time. I'd like to
thank them as well for their service. I gave them an enormous amount
of backup material to review and they had one or two meetings on this
particular topic and discussed those questions that they had with the
applicant.
Secondly, obviously I don't think anyone within the design of a
COPCN ordinance even anticipated how a merger would work into
this. But since the legislative approval of the merger of the Big
Corkscrew and North Naples, since those two independent districts
have merged in terms of how their business unit operates, it is
somewhat logical in my opinion in terms of a service delivery
component. And I think that's what we're attempting to look at here.
And finally, I guess the point that needs to be brought out is that it
does bring additional units to the response area. And we've done a
terrific job of meeting all of our thresholds under the interlocal ALS
partnership, thanks to Chief Kopka and his team have done a great job
with that. Although we don't have any empirical data to analyze with
additional units being brought forth as ALS non-transport units,
common sense would tell you that it does bring additional shortened
response times in that particular area.
So again we have our conditions clearly stated in here. You have
an interlocal agreement for the partnership in which we've offered you
a contract amendment on in order to shorten the suspense of that
termination of that agreement. So it all fits. And also bringing you
back in early renewal in terms of not having to come back to the Board
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twice just for the annual anniversary for North Naples.
That's all I have and I'm sure there are folks here to answer any
questions you might have.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay. Because this application affects
my district most directly, and I think in a very, very significant way,
I'm going to start off the conversation. And I'm going to talk about a
number of different things, and it's going to take me a while.
This topic is a topic that has probably promoted more reading on
my part and more individual assessment, investigation and study than
any other agenda item since I've been a county commissioner.
I think it's much, much more complicated than some of the
presentations and discussions that we've had in the limited amount of
public outreach we've had on the topic, particularly in some of the
districts impacted. And I will tell you at this time I do not support the
expansion of the COPCN. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to
walk you through in detail and tell you why.
The expansion of the fire district -- of the COPCN in Big
Corkscrew Island would result in a watershed change in how medical
services are delivered in Collier County.
There have been discussions across this subject over the last
several years in Collier County about making decisions and fact-based
determinations on how EMS should be structured. Let me just give you
a little rundown on all of the important studies and conversations we've
had that I participated in, some of you have participated in and the
public has participated in.
There was a King County Medic I presentation; King County
being the EMS system in Washington that's kind of considered the
gold standard. There was a presentation from them a number of years
back in Collier County. There was a study and presentation from an
EMS and response study that was put together by Harvard University
delivered. We've had a presentation that's been across the community
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on the University of Oklahoma White Paper. There's been some
discussion about the OPAL Study which is the Multi-Center Canadian
Study which is considered a landmark.
There was a forum put on by the Center For Public Safety
Management which was a compilation and analysis of all the recent
thinking on how EMS services and emergency medicine should be
dispensed.
The most important thing you can glean from some of them is it's
come to my attention that I think an expansion of a COPCN based on
the very intuitive concept that more is better is in error. All these
studies, white papers and forums have told us that. They've told us that
it is a lot more complicated than meets the eye.
And so I believe before we engage on a decision to go forward on
this, that we need to talk about where we've been a little bit, what the
consequences of doing it are. Some of the benefits are clear, but there
are also some unintended consequences that I don't think have been
presented very clearly.
As far as the fundamental thing that I'm going to present to you,
in my view there is a very different -- there's a large difference in how
the COPCN works in the North Naples Service Area, in the North
Collier Fire and Rescue District, and how it would work in the Big
Corkscrew Service Area.
For one thing, in the North Naples Service Area the COPCN is
actually an enhancement to have some of the best EMS service in the
county. The COPCN is a duplication of service. It's redundancy. It's
an enhancement.
What's being proposed for Big Corkscrew Service Area is the
COPCN would be a substitution for an EMS service that's already in
place. It would replace an interlocal agreement that was planned to be
funded in 2016 of$363,000 that's already produced outstanding
results.
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In an effort at my plea to improve EMS service in Collier County,
the county entered into an interlocal agreement with a goal of trying to
approach the urban standard of providing ALS under eight minutes 90
percent of the time. In the year prior to the interlocal agreement in
EMS zone 10 the area that service was provided under eight minutes
only 55.8 percent of the time. With the interlocal agreement they had
reached under eight minutes 80.4 percent of the time. Which is almost
the urban standard.
That effort would be a replacement on the part of the COPCN and
not necessarily an enhancement as it functions in North Naples.
Now, the cost of that interlocal service which was committed was
$363,000. And it was an effort that was provided as part of a greater
effort by the Board of County Commissioners to improve EMS service
all across the board.
The change in how ALS service is delivered is also one of how
the economics would work. I will tell you, walking through the legal
considerations on the approvals that must be dealt with and make an
approval, on number A.2, the effect of the proposed service on existing
services with respect to quality of service and cost of service, I believe
that truthfully the COPCN in a low density eastern part of the county
will not be able to successfully deliver the quality of service that a fully
coordinated EMS system has.
Our EMS system is countywide. It has the ability to do great
things. A very small area depending on itself, even with the assistance
of North Naples, is going to have a hard time, in my view, approaching
that same quality of service.
The most important element is going to be the practice of the
technicians themselves. All of the studies that I've referenced before
have said very clearly that more is not necessarily better, and that
practice and experience is key.
Because there's a section in the University of Oklahoma White
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Paper that sums it up very best, I would like to read a very small part
of the paragraph into the record. Because it summarizes the totality of
my thought at this time on this application.
It's on Page 33 of the White Paper which is -- was produced by
the University of Oklahoma Emergency Medicine in response to a
request.
On Page 33 the paragraph begins with: More is better. And it
says: This fallacy is a common error made by many EMS systems.
More paramedics, more ambulances, more personnel on scene, more
medical devices, more medications, et cetera, equal better outcomes.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Only in the past few
years have researchers and the media challenged this concept that more
is better. Once again, common sense might dictate that if you put more
paramedics on the streets more patients will survive.
However, closer inspection seems to indicate that there is a law of
diminishing returns. After exceeding a critical mass of paramedics, the
addition of more paramedics may not increase survival rates. In fact,
more paramedics may actually worsen outcomes. How is this
possible? Without belaboring it basically the response is recent
medical outcome studies have shown that experience matters, and with
too many staff you get a dilution of skills.
The short answer to these questions that adding paramedics to an
EMS system, though attractive to politicians answering an increasing
public expectation and advocated by labor unions is rarely based on
medical need. Most systems simply measure their response times to
EMS calls, with the goal of getting a BLS resource on scene within
five minutes.
Our analysis in Collier County has been based on response time.
It has not been based on outcomes. These studies urge all providers of
EMS service to shift their focus to outcomes instead of response times.
Getting the right people to the district after evaluating what their needs
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are and having a tiered response between BLS and ALS. That is what
I have been led to read and I believe that the overwhelming weight of
evidence supports that.
On number three of the legal considerations, the effect of the
proposed service on the overall cost of EMS service in the county. I
believe that the effect of starting to rely upon COPCNs and fire
districts in the eastern part of the county is going to create two
standards of services in the county and it's going to create a class of
haves and have nots.
Why do I say that? Providing EMS service in the eastern part of
the county is always for many, many years, and it's going to cover
everybody's lifetime in this room, is a big struggle for time and
distance. At present there is a tremendous disparity in the tax rates
paid by citizens in our county for Emergency Medical Services that
would be only made worse by using COPCNs to supply that primary
service. And I'll give you some statistics that probably some of you
haven't thought about.
If you take the county millage rate and you take the budget for
EMS and you determine what the millage rate equivalent is, you will
find that our comprehensive EMS service county-wide is funded by
.2462 mills per thousand dollars paid by citizen. Less than a fourth of
a mill finances everything we do with EMS today in our
comprehensive way. And it is one part of our first responder
healthcare that's consolidated management.
In my district, the Big Corkscrew Service Area of North Collier
pays 3.5 mills. Immokalee 3.75 mills. Ochopee, 4 mills. The part of
my district that's funded by greater Naples not so bad, 1.5 mills. But
our EMS equivalent millage is only a quarter of a mill. Can you
imagine what we could do with a consolidated EMS service if we just
added a quarter of a mill? That would actually double their budget.
Imagine the impact you could make.
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But if we extend the COPCN in the Big Corkscrew Island, the
people out there now that are paying over three-and-a-half times as
much money as our wealthy counterparts in the other service area,
North Naples, which actually reduced their millage to .95 mills, they're
paying three-and-a-half mills for that service. They're going to be
paying three-and-a-half mills for fire and primary EMS service to get
them to that urban standard that we hope for. Those are
three-and-a-half mills, 3.75 mills and 4. mills that are being paid by the
people in our county that can least afford to pay a higher rate in
taxation. That's like establishing a separate but equal system for
supplying EMS service that comes at a cost three-and-a-half times
higher.
How can I defend that to my citizens? How can Collier County
defend that to its citizens? Think of people that can least afford to pay,
the people with the most children, the people that are most economic
disadvantaged, charge them three-and-a-half times as much, and say
we're giving you a similar sort of service, not exactly. We're not going
to give it to you through EMS, we're going to give it to you through a
COPCN.
Now, I do not doubt the dedication of the fire districts. I never
have. I believe that those people are dedicated, they want to do the
right thing. I just don't think that extending the COPCN is going to
create a system as we go forward that's going to produce a good
comprehensive result for Collier County. Why would we spend all this
time to consolidate fire and begin to unravel and un-consolidate an
EMS system that we already have that's pretty comprehensive? Why
would we do that? Why would we consolidate one and then turn
around and un-consolidate the other one that's almost complete? I
don't understand why you would do that. It's like catching fish on one
side of the boat and throwing them over on the other side. It just
doesn't add up to me.
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I think the unintended consequence are too great. I don't think
they've been considered. I don't think we've considered the service
areas and what their needs are, and I don't think we've adequately
considered the research that's available, and we certainly haven't talked
about it with the constituents that are going to be affected by this
which I think is a huge change.
So right at this point I can't support it. I'll go to Commissioner
Hiller and then Commissioner Henning.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
Thank you, Commissioner Nance. This issue is very important to
me. My husband died of cardiac arrest. And it is about response
times. And it is about providing the highest level of service possible to
save as many lives as we can, because that is the paramount objective
of our first responders.
I want to address some of the arguments that you've presented,
because there are a large number of fallacies in the statements you've
made. And I don't believe you've done so intentionally, but I do
believe that some of the conclusions you've drawn based on the facts
that you have in your readings are fundamentally incorrect.
Let's begin with rates. Your residents in Big Corkscrew are not
paying three times more because their tax -- fire tax rate is three times
higher. That's not the way it works. Tax is a function of property
values times millage. The biggest fallacy is to say that they are paying
more because their millage rate is higher or lower. That isn't true at all.
And then you go on to say that we are creating two classes.
That's also a false statement. Two classes exist right now, and what we
are trying to do is eliminate those two classes.
Big Corkscrew has not received the level of service that the other
communities have received because of fire's involvement. And the
reason fire is involved is because they have stations where we don't
have EMS stations. And we don't have the funding to put stations
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everywhere. So the smart thing to do for the county to bring the
highest level of service is to partner with first responders who have
station in those areas, who have the staffing and have the staffing
available to share with those areas.
To deny the expansion of the COPCN into Big Corkscrew is
fundamentally wrong. I mean, it is morally wrong to do that to those
people in that community.
The law of diminishing returns, we haven't even come close to
that. That's the problem. We are not providing the level of service.
And if you think eight minutes is an adequate response time, I will tell
you drop to shop for life is four minutes. Four minutes. And we are
here to save lives. It's not about the guy who broke his leg, it's the guy
who's about to die of cardiac arrest. That's what we're looking to save.
That's the situation that we care about and that's the level of service
that we want to target.
And it is absolutely false to state that too much staff results in a
dilution of skills. We have quality staff across the entire emergency
response system. We have quality staff in Kingman Schuldt's district,
we have quality staff in Ochopee, we have quality staff in North
Naples, we have quality staff in the City of Naples, we have quality
staff under Chief Kopka. That's what makes Collier County so great.
And our goal to say make it as great as possible. We want to save
lives. I want as many Phoenix awards as possible. And that is not
going to happen if we don't expand the COPCN. That is not going to
happen if we don't let more ALS providers in Big Corkscrew.
I will not let these people suffer. I will not let them get less. This
is not to replace Chief Kopka, this is in addition to Chief Kopka. And
if I'm passionate about this, let me tell you, I have reason. My husband
died due to cardiac arrest. And these people are going to save other
people from that fate. And I will fight for this cause 'til the day I die,
because I'm not going to let anyone, anyone, go through what I went °
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through. And I swear to God, I will push this as my agenda for as long
as I sit on this board and after I'm done sitting on this board I'm going
to continue pushing it. Because I am grateful to you, Chief Kopka, to
you, all the fire chiefs, to you, the EMS providers, to all of you first
responders who save lives every day, because that is our paramount
duty as members of this Commission.
Thank you, Mr. Summers for your service, and thank you for
your recommendation. And I make a motion to approve all three
items.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Should we take a break?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It might be a good idea, because
I'm about to cry.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let's take a 10-minute break. We'll
come back at seven minutes -- what are we going to come back at?
We're going to come back in 10 minutes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You could make it 13 minutes.
Either 1:57 or 2:00.
(Recess.)
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome back.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I have a question.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Summers. Reading our
executive summary, knowing the Board put more paramedics out in
the Corkscrew area, there's nothing that I see that proposes anything
different. If the Board approves your recommendations, you're going
to have, you know, more and more paramedics responding to medical
calls.
MR. SUMMERS: Sir, I attempted to clarify that. And if I could
just take a minute. The reason --
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: Show me where that -- if you
wrote something that I can't tell.
MR. SUMMERS: That's okay. On Page 2 of the executive
summary, if you'll notice we proposed -- remember, you have Collier
County EMS. Under your direction we had an ALS partnership
agreement where we have Collier County EMS personnel in the Big
Corkscrew district, essentially a quick response medic and a swap on
station there for the additional ALS coverage in Big Corkscrew.
So as a result of the merger and North Collier providing those
personnel, we've recommended a 30-day termination to that
partnership agreement that pulls our personnel out and transitions for
the North Collier to provide those personnel, and I would say those
personnel and more.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is that a recommendation on
Page 3?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir, it is. It's somewhat long-winded, but
it does say in there that it would also -- it amends the interlocal
agreement. Your amendment to the current interlocal agreement is a
30-day notice of termination, whereas our previous interlocal
agreement I believe had a 90-day notice of termination.
But what this allows all parties to do is to get ready for that
transition between North Collier providing those services and
withdrawal of Collier County EMS personnel so there is continuous
ALS paramedics within that district.
So again, a lot of moving parts. You have an expanded district --
if I can recap, an expanded district, you have a name change as a result
of the merger, you have a withdrawal of the Collier County EMS
assets providing that service, and then an instantaneous or automatic
conversion of those ALS personnel being covered now by North
Collier, what we know as North Collier.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: What you're saying is you would
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remove those paramedics in the part that describes if approved to sign
that COPCN, certificate of permit, and the amendment to the interlocal
agreement. That interlocal agreement addresses the extra paramedics.
MR. SUMMERS: It addresses the termination of our agreement
of Collier County EMS personnel providing staff within what we know
now today as the Big Corkscrew district.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Did that --
MR. SUMMERS: So we're advancing the --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Did that agreement come to the
Board of Commissioners?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir. Yes, sir, it's in your backup package
as the approved agreement.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Already approved agreement.
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir. And it was done the 25th day of
March, 2014.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you.
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, I talked with staff a little bit
about this, because I -- now I'm even more concerned. I wanted to
know, once you bring the new people in and then the EMS service
comes out, first of all, don't they have an EMS station there?
MR. SUMMERS: At this particular station, no, there's not an
EMS unit there. We are collocating with them.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, right, okay.
MR. SUMMERS: We're collocating with them.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So then that -- what happens to those
people that now don't have a job?
MR. SUMMERS: Well, the Collier County staff, that is certainly
handled. We can handle that with attrition. We've got the season
coming up. So I think I can let Chief Kopka address that, but that is
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not -- there's no loss of position in our recommendation here. Or no
loss of positions.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Maybe at this moment. But then
maybe when you have too many then all of a sudden people lose their
jobs just so that COPCN can expand? That's making me really
nervous.
MR. SUMMERS: No, ma'am, I don't -- we don't forecast or
foresee any loss of Collier County EMS personnel in this endeavor.
Again, because of turnover or attrition.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And then where EMS has been
living right now, it will then be occupied by the COPCN people?
MR. SUMMERS: No, ma'am, they are their own operation, they
are their own North Collier Fire Service operation. So what you're
doing, they're training up their personnel to take these positions, just as
they presently do within the North Naples Fire District --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: They can't use an ambulance, they
can't transport, so where does the ambulance go?
MR. SUMMERS: The ambulances were always at their regular
stations in the northern part of the county. And I can let Chief Kopka
give you the exact addresses, if you'd like.
CHIEF KOPKA: Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and
Commissioners, Chief Kopka for the record.
Currently the EMS paramedic that's part of the interlocal
agreement is housed at a different station than the ambulance. The
ambulance is housed on the fairgrounds property or near the
fairgrounds property. We have no intent of moving that ambulance or
those crews. The only difference would be the tact or engine truck
that's at the Big Corkscrew station at Randall and Immokalee will be
staffed with a COCPN paramedic firefighter as opposed to an EMS
paramedic firefighter.
There will be no loss of personnel on the EMS side, no loss of
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transport ambulances on the EMS side at all.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And as Commissioner Nance was
asking you about, what about the change in service? Not only that but
the millage rate, how -- you know, what happens there?
CHIEF KOPKA: No change in millage rate.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No change in millage rate?
CHIEF KOPKA: Correct.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It doesn't get reduced either, right?
CHIEF KOPKA: Correct. It --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Even though they have such a much
lower millage rate, they're still going to have to be paying the same
millage rate, what is it, 3.9 or something like that, I don't know.
MR. OCHS: Yeah, Commissioner, that's probably a better
question for the leadership of the district than it is for Chief Kopka.
He really can't represent what the millage rate is going to be at some
point or how long it's going to hold. That's probably a good question
for them.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay.
CHIEF KOPKA: I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the
EMS.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I was actually. Thank you, you
understood.
But I was just wondering, you know, how do the people benefit if
they're getting the same service and the same service and the same rate
and they're housed in the same place both times? I'm not quite sure
what the benefit is to Corkscrew.
CHIEF KOPKA: I'll let them jump in, take that question.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm just trying to figure that out.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, the interesting question is, in Big
Corkscrew the fire district came to the people and asked to raise the
millage because of the recession. The taxable value plummeted, the
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revenue plummeted, they couldn't survive. So they came to the people.
I participated in that before my service as a commissioner. Chief
Robert Metzger did it with Golden Gate, Chief Rita Greenberg did it
with Big Corkscrew Island, and the discussion was we need to do this
to maintain service.
Now it's being suggested that this high millage rate, this elevated
millage rate is necessary. I don't see how it's ever going to come down
if those people have to pay for a fire COPCN. How is it ever going to
come down? It's not going to come down. Those people were never
told they were raising their millage rate to provide additional services
to them. They were told -- they were asked to raise the millage rate to
maintain the level of service.
I think it's been exceedingly disingenuous. And if we do it for
this one how do we deny Immokalee's application for a COPCN?
They're 3.75. How do we deny that? How do we deny greater Naples
application for a COPCN? Before you know it, we have not one
unified EMS system anymore. We've got three or four medical
directors, we've got three or four different potential medical training
programs, and we've got two or three different armies running around
out there trying to provide the service that today is primarily serviced
by one army.
The reason these fire districts and EMS is organized like an army
and they have military levels of command is because everybody
realizes it need to be precise, it needs to be highly organized. How do
you fight a war with five separate independent armies doing what they
think is best?
I think the unintended consequences of this are it's going to
completely disassemble our effort to unify all of our emergency
response under one banner. We need to get all the fire districts and
EMS under one banner and one command in this county. We only
have 350,000 people. We can't do that.
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We are not living up to the example that's being presented to us,
we're not reading the information that's being presented to us.
I agree with Commissioner Hiller, we all want the same thing.
But the approaches are vastly different and they are not equal, and
they're not equal to our citizens. And everybody needs to acknowledge
that. If it is, I'd like somebody to step up and tell me what the big deal
is to these citizens.
If we took the North Naples Service District and the Big
Corkscrew Island Service District with the service that's being
proposed and flipped them and we offered North Naples the service
that Big Corkscrew Island's going to get you know what the citizens
would do to you? We would all be running for the hills, okay. They
wouldn't accept them. They would not accept that. It's not equal. It's
going to be separate and equal and it's going to put the burden of high
millage rate on these people that can least afford to pay it forever. And
nobody has ever explained to me a pathway that that's not going to
happen.
That's one of the bad things. That's not the only thing. The
approach to service is the same. All these studies are telling us we
need to look at outcomes, we don't need to look at response times. I've
never had anybody come in here and say hey, you know what, we're
going to go and we're going to look at what the outcomes are in the
eastern part of the county because the demographics are different and
then we're going to look at the older population along the coast and
we're going to figure out what the outcomes need to be over there and
what our caseloads are and we're going to tailor our system. Nobody's
doing that. Why? Because we don't have a comprehensive approach
to it. That's all I'm saying.
Commissioner Hiller and I agree for the need for better service.
And particularly in my district. But I don't think it's prime time for this
now. I just don't think we're ready for it. I think it's incomplete and I
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think it's erroneous.
Commissioner -- who's up next?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Hiller.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
It is prime time. The system hasn't been working and our
response times are not adequate. We are nowhere near where we
should be.
And earlier on there was a mention of the premier model, if you
will, and that was the Seattle model. Well, the Seattle model is not
what we have here. And while we have been moving to consolidation
of fire districts, we are sorely deficient when it comes to EMS.
Let's talk about EMS funding. Mr. Summers, how much are we
being funded by -- how much is your division being supplemented by
the general fund? Let's talk about all the costs and how short you are
and how much you need.
MR. SUMMERS: Ma'am, I'm not -- I haven't done any particular
financial analysis for you today, but I will gladly get that information
for you.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: You are short-funded. And the
reason you're short-funded is we don't have enough money to fund you
to the level necessary to provide a countywide system with the level of
service necessary to save lives. And that is why we partner with fire.
We can't afford to build EMS stations throughout our 2,000 square
mile county to deliver the level of service that we need to deliver. That
is why we're partnering with fire across the board, north and south, east
and west. We don't have the money.
Do we have the money, Leo?
MR. OCHS: Commissioner, you have an adopted level of service
for EMS. In almost all zones you're meeting that adopted level of
service. Your EMS operation is funded by the general fund and by
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ambulance fees at about a 50/50 ratio.
So I will tell you, and Chief Kopka can correct me if I'm wrong,
but with the exception of a couple of zones throughout the county, you
are meeting the current level of service standard as it's defined in your
AUIR.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Because we're partnering with fire.
MR. OCHS: They certainly in those areas where we partner with
fire help us meet or exceed those service level standards.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And our service level standards,
while we have set them at what they are today, are not adequate. They
are absolutely insufficient.
The drop to shop time to save a life is four minutes. And saying
that an eight-minute response time is adequate and that we should have
an urban and a rural standard, really? I didn't know life was divided
between the city and the country. I didn't know there was like a city
life and a country life.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, there --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay? And I mean, I find what we
have done unacceptable. And we have an opportunity now. And EMS
doesn't have to pull out. And they don't have to pull out right away.
And when we do pull out, we deploy those resources in another area
where there's a need.
We are not firing anybody. We're not laying anybody off. We
need every single person we have. And if we can have North Naples
Fire provide ALS service and we can take our resources and deploy
them to some other part of the county to provide even a higher level of
service and have better response time and more lives saved, then that's
exactly what we should do.
MR. OCHS: That's what we will do.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And your recommendation is right
on point and I thank you for it. And Mr. Summers, your analysis has
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been correct today. And I would really ask this board to look at it from
the perspective of this is the right thing to do to save lives. It really is.
And I wouldn't be so passionate about it and I wouldn't care so
much if I didn't know firsthand it will make a difference and it does
matter.
Just like I think what we've done with the eastern and the
southern portion of the county is correct. It's exactly the same thing.
We're doing the same thing in both areas. It doesn't matter if it's north
or south, let's just get it done and move on, save lives and make it
happen. It's very important.
This is not about politics, this is about life. This is very much
about life. This is not a joke. You know, I mean --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala, then Commissioner
Taylor.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay, thank you very much. Just
one last question from me and that is we had for the last few years
talked about consolidating all the fire departments and finally ending
up with one excellent fire service throughout the county and we would
consolidate into that one EMS service.
What does this do if EMS -- rather if fire departments continue to
create COPCNs what does that do for our EMS service? Is there --
you know, does that either break it apart or does it -- it doesn't leave a
prize in the end for consolidating. It gives everybody the ability to stay
separate from everybody else. And before we at least had a carrot out
there and it was called EMS. And now we won't.
So can you maybe fill me in on that or -- you know, what
happens? Does EMS just kind of dry up and go away then other than a
few transport services?
MR. SUMMERS: Well, Commissioner, any comment on that
right now would be speculation on my part on.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, it would be.
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MR. SUMMERS: So bear with me on that. And if I could
foresee that crystal ball of how consolidation would look like, I would
go buy a lottery ticket.
But I just want to say that what our focus here is strictly related to
the fact that you now have a merged -- legislatively approved merged
organization.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Two of them, actually.
MR. SUMMERS: Well, you have two. Right, you have two as
one. You have one with one level of service on one portion of the
district, one without.
I think if--
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think Commissioner Fiala meant
there were two legislatively united --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Two consolidations --
MR. SUMMERS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: East Naples and Capris --
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- and then North Naples and
Corkscrew.
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, ma'am. But to focus on this particular
COPCN. Yes, ma'am, I follow you.
I think the component here is that you have a delivery component
at the North Naples Fire District as we know North Naples. You have
set that precedent.
The other component is that you have a -- you are delivering ALS
non-transport on ALS engines and other quick response vehicles with
Collier County EMS.
There's business synergy now with one consolidated fire district,
the North Collier Fire District. So would it not make business synergy,
although I can't debate, I can't put any discussion around the different
millage rate, but from a responder's perspective that group needs to
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function as one business unit.
I acknowledge the different taxing rates, but the ordinance gives
me no authority to investigate or work on the ordinance disparity in
this case. And this ordinance certainly wasn't written for something
that even addressed fire service consolidation ALS 10 or 12 years ago.
This was really looking at the private sector if they came to our board.
Now, that's all hindsight.
So I would say that the component here or the advocacy is simply
their business operation and the fact that you already have one
certificate and one part of this new business district.
And really, that's the extent of the analysis that I think is fair for
me to comment on, staying within the confines of the ordinance.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, as it continues to creep and
other departments then want to emulate the same procedure, then EMS
would continue to downsize, I would guess. And then what happens
there? I mean, what are --
MR. SUMMERS: Well, ma'am, I would say that remember, we
have expanding call volume, expanding population. You have the best
of the best and world class accredited Collier County EMS. You do.
You've got great people within the fire service providing that first
responder component.
The philosophical question is, and I'm sure I'm on thin ice here, is
what do you want to do with COPCNs in the future related to first
responder ALS?
But at this point with the legislative new business unit, where my
comfort level is within the ordinance and the guidance that I have, as I
understand the guidance and the ordinance, is that you make a decision
as to how you want to let this new business unit operate. And it does
coincide with expanded district, it does coincide with the fact that we
put measures in place last year to improve our response time.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Summers, I appreciate what you
said, that the ordinance doesn't contemplate what we're going through
with consolidation, and it certainly doesn't -- it didn't contemplate what
would happen if you created all these multiple units, I don't suppose.
But one of the elements is that the effect of the proposed service on the
overall cost to EMS service in the county.
So how are you going to tax our residents? How many different
directions are you going to tax them in? We're taxing them for EMS,
we're taxing them for fire, and you've got a total. So how many
different ways do you want to tax people for the same service?
Like I say, I appreciate everything that the COPCN has done in
North Naples. But it really is an enhancement in that case. This does
not look like an enhancement to me. It looks like a system that's going
to be very, very hard to fund. People are struggling. Even with these
high millage rates, they're on thin ice, they're struggling.
I know Big Corkscrew, you know, everybody said okay, it's
sufficient, we can budget to do this. But I'll tell you what, it's on thin
ice. It might not be Chapter 11, but it's chapter 10-and-a-half. I know,
I've lived it out there, I've seen it. All right?
It's the same in Immokalee. They're struggling with grants,
they're struggling with high millage rates, they're struggling trying to
make do. How would we deny other COPCNs to other fire districts?
You'd have to make the same argument, wouldn't you? And they're all
going to be on thin ice. All the ones in my district are. They are
marginally funded as it is. I just don't think they can take this burden
and truthfully and honestly look me right in the eye and tell me that
they can supply the same service that EMS does.
I've advocated in here this last time for more funding for EMS.
Commissioner Hiller is right. Collier citizens are paying a quarter of a
mill equivalent, .2462, and I think they're getting a brilliant amount for
the amount of money they're getting --
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: They're not.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- they're getting excellent service.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: They're not. They're way
under-serviced. They need more service, that's the whole reason.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I agree. Let's fund EMS.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Then propose a raise in taxes,
because that's the only way it's going to get funded.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, it's either going to --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And yet we don't have to raise
taxes because our various districts north and south are able to provide
the additional service without raising the tax that these people are
saying.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: They've already have the taxes raised on
them. They're already three and a half to four mills. In North Naples
it's .95 mill. I agree, it's a great bargain for them. It's not a bargain for
the people in my district. And these are the poor people.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's not the way it works. The
tax is a function of millage and property value. You can't say it's a
good deal or a bad deal.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: They're not taxed a different rate for
EMS, they're not taxed a different rate for county services, they're not
taxed a different rate for the Sheriffs office. The only one they're
taxed different for is the fire districts, and that's who we're asking to
carry this burden. That's all I'm saying. We're asking people who
already have a heavy burden to take more. And that's where the tax
discrepancy is the worst.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Because they're --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: And I don't see any way out of it. Show
me a way where we can reduce taxes on these people and treat them
like we do with Collier County EMS and the Sheriffs Office and the
county. Show me how to do that.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's exactly what's happening.
That's why the legislature approved this consolidation. Because down
the road as the population increases in the east and that district has a
higher population, then overall the millage will go down because more
people will be paying into the system. I mean, that's the whole point.
Could we hear from whoever the speakers are?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let's go to Commissioner Taylor and
then we'll go to public speakers.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I don't have any comment at this
time. I'm listening and find this fascinating.
But I did want to ask Mr. Summers, are you not concerned about
consolidation as an overarching strategical --
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, ma'am, absolutely. We want to see that.
We want to find every efficiency that we possibly can. But at this
particular point I think it's appropriate for me to stay within the
confines of the COPCN ordinance and activity.
Obviously there is progress within the fire service consolidation.
I have, you know, different thoughts about the segregation, if you will,
between fire and EMS and first responder and ALS transport, but those
are my views. But I think at this particular point what you're looking
at is strictly what is related to the response time, what is related to the
business unit out there.
And I don't -- and this is not any -- our community is going
through the same discussions as hundreds of communities over your
delivery between fire and EMS. So you have definitely hit that hard
spot in the road.
So I think some others want to comment, and I think in terms of
the manpower, Chief Stolts would be better to serve that question.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, we have eight registered speakers.
My apologies, Commissioner Fiala, I counted wrong when you asked.
Your first speaker is Paul Devan. And he'll be followed by Paul
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Anderson.
CHIEF DEVAN: Hello. For the record, my name is Paul Devan.
I live in District 5. I live off of Eighth Street Northeast on 14th
Avenue Northeast.
I've been in Golden Gate Estates for a long time, again, close to
25 years. I've been in the fire service for 29 years. I come from a
family that was in the fire service and in the military. Basically I'm the
little kid that grew up in the fire station.
With that said, I've had obviously a lot of experience, I've had a
lot of times where I've ended up in the back of the ambulance.
With that said, operating in Collier County and Lee County, I had
worked in Lee county for 24 years. If I was on the back of a unit as an
EMT or if I was there with a paramedic, it didn't matter what zone we
were in, if we caught an emergency call we had to go to that call. So it
doesn't matter on my uniform if I'm operating in Collier County and I
end up on the back of Medic 30 and I was passing through Big
Corkscrew Island where I live, if there's an emergency, I will go.
Also too, being that I'm the captain of the Immokalee Fire
Department, I live in zone 10. I live behind Station 10 of Big
Corkscrew Island. Now, I'm not the type of person where I try to
chase calls or whatever like that, but there has been a few opportunities
to where I've been in the area of an emergency and I've responded
appropriately.
I think what we're missing here is it doesn't matter what studies
we look at. If we look at studies that come from Harvard, they come
from Colorado, they come from Seattle, we need to see what works
here and what works for Collier County.
Being that I've been here for 25 years, I've been in the fire service
for 29 years, I've had my share of calls that we don't have the time to
discuss, but what you need to know as a Collier County Commissioner
is that we have the resources available in is Big Corkscrew Island.
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They need to be able to function at the level that they're trained to
function. That's what the main point is here today.
I had an incident on the road that I live on where a 14-year-old
was shot in the leg. It just missed his femoral artery, fortunately. But
the point I'm trying to make is the first due unit -- I had both calls on
my street, that was just one of them. But the first due unit was the
Attack 10 with two firefighters. If one of those firefighters is a
paramedic, they should be able to operate at the level of their service.
Why does it matter where they are on the map? Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Paul Anderson. He'll be
followed by Ramon Chad or Chao, I'm not sure which it is.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can we just ask clarification from
the last speaker? In other words, just clarification, because -- you
support ALS?
CHIEF DEVAN: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
So you support the award of the COPCN?
CHIEF DEVAN: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: To Big Corkscrew.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Chief, please.
CHIEF ANDERSON: Hi. Paul Anderson, Fire Chief,
Immokalee Fire Control District.
I'm here at the direction of the board of fire commissioners of
Immokalee Fire Control District who have directed me to share that
they are in support of North Collier's request to expand their COPCN
into the Big Corkscrew area.
There's several things. Everybody keeps bringing up this King
County, Washington study. The King County, Washington system is
nowhere near the same as Collier County, Florida. King County,
Washington has over two million people. Collier County's got 300,000.
And a lot of people don't realize, King County, Washington, they
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have one ambulance provider in the county. Collier County Florida
has one ambulance provider in the county. King County, Washington
has over 150 fire stations in the county, over 20 something different
fire departments, every one of which provides EMS. So it really is not
apples to apples.
The other thing, the expansion of the COPCN will do several
things. One of the things it was -- we were working on was improving
ALS response times county-wide. One way to do that is add more
resources to the mix. The county added one ALS unit in Corkscrew
with a county paramedic on a Corkscrew firetruck. North Collier's
proposal will make it four times those resources.
North Collier is proposing to add three ALS units with Corkscrew
firefighter paramedics. That would allow the EMS medic on their
engine to be available to be reassigned somewhere else in the county
as a fourth additional ALS unit. Instead of adding one ALS unit, we're
adding four.
It affects Immokalee Fire District because when all of our units
are busy, engine 12 from Corkscrew is the next due unit into
Immokalee. If our units are busy, it's usually the ambulances in
Immokalee are busy as well. If there's a paramedic on Corkscrew's
engine, that benefits Immokalee Fire District. Because now we've got
ALS there sooner than it would take for another ambulance to get
there.
I am a firm believer in fire-based EMS. It's not replacing the
service, it's enhancing the service and increasing the level of service in
the Corkscrew area. It's also increasing the level of service in
Immokalee.
We just had a devastating traffic accident on State Road 82 last
night. We had two patients that had no paramedic care for 10 to 15
minutes because we ran out of paramedics on that call. If there was a
paramedic on our fire engine they would have had paramedic care
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immediately.
Immokalee Fire District is in support of the expansion of the
COPCN.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Ramon Chao. He'll be
followed by Chris Crossan.
MR. CHAO: Good afternoon. Ramon Chao, I'm one of the
Commissioners for Collier County -- correction, for North Collier Fire.
I worked for Collier County EMS for 15 and a half years as a
paramedic firefighter on all of the ALS engines that have been for the
county. So I'm not just speaking out of I think this is a great idea.
You proved it, you put one ALS engine up in Corkscrew, it
dropped from 55 -- it went from 55 to 80 percent. Unfortunately Mr.
Pena, it's one of your constituents, lives in zone 12. He died with
paramedics standing next to him four minutes. Yeah. And I know it
has nothing to do with the white list. That's the one thing that's there.
These paramedics could have put an IV in, they could have given
medication, they could have put a monitor, okay. The one ALS medic
cost, as you said, $363,000. Corkscrew and North Naples together or
separate, however you want to mix it up, we have the funding. We've
done it, we've looked through it, it's been approved for a third of the
price. For $100,000 you would cover the three other zones plus the
additional fourth.
This is just ridiculous. The politics have got to stop. People are
dying. EMS has gone off-- you're worried about extra medics, extra
medics. EMS has been buffering by adding -- by the swamp program
in greater Naples they've added at every station, almost every station,
and Walter can correct me if I'm wrong. They've been adding them
because it helps keep up the numbers to do it. And apples to oranges,
EMS is trying to get to the calls out in Corkscrew and Immokalee in 12
minutes, not eight minutes. Somebody keeps dropping out that
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additional four minutes. We're getting there. And the ALS engine got
it down to that time.
You want to save the taxpayers the money? Is it right? There it
is. People are dying. We've had these people there. There was that
other call that was over an hour.
This is not politics, man, this is people dying on the side of the
road. And just -- my father just had a cath. on Friday. Thank God he
was in a doctor's office when we noticed what was going on. If
something like this happened that your own family member died
because of politics? You have EMS telling you yeah, it's the thing to
do. It's going to save taxpayers money. It's going to save lives.
I mean -- oh, and by the way, the millage rate is going down just
as we said, as we approved. So I just don't understand. It's all covered.
The finances have nothing to do with this Board. That is our job. If
you attempt to enter into that world, you're now impersonating a fire
commissioner that the people elected us for. And they raised their
taxes so that they could have it. And you can't look at the .24 and use
that against a 3 because you get an additional $1,000 every time you
get taken in by the ambulance.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Chris Crossan, he'll be
followed by Chief Orly Stolts.
MR. CROS SAN: Thank you today, Commissioners. Let me just
preface my background as a fire commissioner. And I've been in the
infancy of the Marco Island program as a firefighter there too.
And just to address Commissioner Nance's concerns, how do you
defend this? Well, it's the same way I defended the millage rate
increase, you would have three people running to a fire as opposed to
six. And it was, say, Paul, for instance and he has a young daughter
and he has a young son, I know somebody has to put out a fire and I
know somebody has to save the kids or the people, you know.
And I had people against me in my election for that that didn't
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believe that and how do you defend more paramedics on the street?
We have, let's say three elementary schools out there with thousands of
kids. You guys probably remember last year reading about the Lee
County child that died from an asthma attack. How many nurses do
you have in those schools? One that travels around to those
elementary schools? She might be there one day, she might not be
there the next. What's it locked up in the locker? Proventil, Albuterol
to give those kids asthma treatments?
Let me tell you how scary it is when I coach football and one of
my kids has an asthma attack, and I try to remember how to put it
together and do everything and do it the right way. And I've
administered those.
And I want you to say yes today. Because I want to give the
ability to direct my chief, both of my chiefs, to go to those
parent/teacher associations. And they give us the $9 million for the
parks, they gave us the okay on the Publix, but they said no to the kids,
they said no to the residents to save these lives.
And we can, we can, we worked it out in our budget to get this
done. You know, when you guys came to us about station 48, putting
another ambulance in there, I was the first one to say yes. If our
firetruck is out of there at Station 48 up on Livingston, have the
ambulance here, you've got North Naples Middle School across from
there. Even though that ambulance came from Pelican Bay and
repositioned those people back to Pelican Bay wherever they are
needed. Because we have the paramedics, they've been ramping up for
years, for years of schooling to do this. And now with George and
everybody else to provide this service.
And a no vote today, you've already established right here and
now you're going to establish for the rest of the people here. And we
can't afford it. We didn't want to do that for the fire. And the goal is to
bring the millage rate back to that one. Thank you.
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MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Chief Orly Stolts. He'll be
followed by Michael Ramsey.
CHIEF STOLTS: Commissioners, I thought I was going to be
able to present on this particular agenda item. I didn't realize I was
going to be put on public speaker. So could I let the public speakers
finish and then present at the end?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: The will of the Board, whatever the
Board would like to hear, Chief. I'm sure you're going to be able to
speak.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: North Collier is petitioning the
Board to change. They paid an application fee. So, you know, it's no
different than our land use to allow Rich Yovanovich to argue this
point.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Fine, you'd like to conclude the speakers,
sir, and then you'd like to present?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: However, the Chief-- you're the
petitioner, correct?
CHIEF STOLTS: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: It's fine by me if it's fine with Board
members. I don't see any problem.
CHIEF STOLTS: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Michael Ramsey. He'll be
followed by, looks like C. Spencer.
MR. RAMSEY: Good afternoon, Commissioners. My name is
Michael Ramsey. I'm the president of the Golden Gate Estates Area
Civic Association and I'm also a resident of the Big Corkscrew Service
District Area.
Two main points on this issue today. Number one: King County
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model, Harvard study, Oklahoma study in relation to this issue, these
are replicated studies of emergency medical response done across the
country, and they've concluded that a system with a large and rapidly
deployed BLS EMT responders backed up in a tiered system with
medically experienced ALS paramedics is the best medical response
strategy for saving lives.
The COPCN application in front of you today does not address
this strategy, so it needs to be reviewed further as to what is the best
option.
Number two: Yes, Commissioner, Big Corkscrew's board
approached us in our district and asked us to increase their millage to
375 to maintain fire service.
It was also made clear to us at that time that when things got
better it would come back down. We did not expect a new program in
that increased millage.
During the merger with North Naples there was no discussion of a
COPCN and the financial responsibilities it would put on us as we're
talking about it today. Most times in a merger, and our group
included, we were hoping to get our millage reduced to help us with
our finances in our district.
As of today, listening to this discussion, I don't believe our
millage will ever come down in our Big Corkscrew Service Delivery
Area. I don't think it's possible. Because the cost and the finances
you're talking about today was not included in the original merger
budget. So I'm somewhat disappointed in how this is going.
And I think for the future of long-term emergency medical
service, looking at the proven studies and looking at factual based
outcomes is the best way to proceed with decision-making. Thank you
for your time.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is G. Spencer. He'll be
followed by Norman Feder.
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MR. SPENCER: Good afternoon. It's Christopher Spencer, 5950
Almaden Drive.
I proudly stand before you as the elected representative of the
North Collier Professional Firefighters and Paramedics. We cover
North Collier in its entirety, that's Corkscrew and the Old North Naples
area.
So you have to understand that from our perspective each one of
us has our licenses by the State of Florida and they have set the
benchmark of what we need to know to be able to perform any kind of
medical procedure on any individual. We've gone to school, we've
been certified, we passed the state test, we follow the Collier County
Medical Director's directives of how we do if we have to do
procedures on people.
We work hand-in-hand with my brothers and sisters from Collier
County EMS, East Naples, Golden Gate, Marco Island, the City, you
name it, we all work together. We all have one goal in common, and
it's the safety of the people.
Mr. Nance, you said that you can't have five armies running
around. Let me remind you about World War I and World War II
where many allies got together with one common cause and we all
won that war.
I just want you to know that the men and women that are doing
this job out here, we feel that it is a gross injustice, not just to us,
although it has a smack of demeaning to the qualifications that we all
hold if we are not a Collier County EMS employee, although I have no
bad feelings towards any of the EMS people, we're all equal and they
feel the same way.
But what really gulls us is that we know when we get on scene, as
has been indicated, and we have to sit there and say guess what, I'm a
paramedic today and I'm riding in the truck in the North
Naples/Pelican Bay area but as soon as I cross that imaginary line I
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cannot do anything because of politics.
And people will die and people will get hurt and people will wait
on ambulance deliveries. And the people that you're talking about that
are the poorest, you're going to make them wait even more.
There is no cost, there is no bill come from North Collier
Firefighters or Fire District to the individuals who we render care to.
No, we work hand-in-hand with our brothers and sisters of Collier
County EMS. And if they need extra help, we hop on the ambulances
that are on staff correctly and we get in there and we give them a hand
to make sure that the end product is the best product.
I thank them for their dedication and I thank you for your
consideration of just issuing the COPCN for the entirety of North
Collier. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your final registered speaker on this item is
Norman Feder.
MR. FEDER: Commissioners, I learned from Jim Mudd some
time ago to be brief, be brilliant, be gone. I can do two of them. I'll try
to work on the third.
What I need to tell you is that the merger has occurred. We went
out, we went to the public, we developed a plan, five years in a
business plan over 20, and we're implementing that plan. And the key
is there is a single district. There is not necessarily a service level that
we desire to provide in north versus a service level different to be
provided in Big Corkscrew.
The issue in north, as was even noted, while you have all these
different studies, the only real study that I've seen I know is conclusive
is that north in working in COPCN has been very, very effective
working with our EMS in helping to meet the standards and working
closely to save lives.
That's what we want to do in the full district now, because there is
only one North Collier. There is not two separate service areas
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because, and yes, we have two different millage rates. And a per
capita taxable value of three-and-a-half is equivalent almost to one in
north.
But regardless of that, the orientation of this merger,
consolidation, is to try to bring those together. It won't happen
immediately. And that was acknowledged in the merger. But neither
area is going to subsidize the other, but we are going to be able to
capitalize greatly on the efficiencies from a merger to be able to
increase services and make sure the most important of services are
being delivered uniformly throughout our district.
The money's already in the budget and what I can tell you bluntly,
and this is the last thing I'll note, is the millage rate has already come
down from 1 to .95, as was noted, north, as part of the merger, we did
that immediately. And in this current budget Big Corkscrew is pulling
it down from 3.5 to 3.45. A step in the right direction. Not the answer,
but it's continuing to move.
And the fact of the matter is, if you get additional services and
you get the most critical and important services provided uniformly,
then the merger has been successful. And that's what we're trying to
do. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: That was your final registered speaker.
CHIEF STOLTS: Thank you, Commissioners. Chief Stolts, for
the record, Fire Chief of the North Fire Control and Rescue District.
Commissioners, what you have today before you in this agenda
item is Government 101. Everybody I'm sure, particularly in your
positions, have gone through Government 101. And the first thing that
they teach you in Government 101 is the main focus of government is
the safety and welfare of the residents that you serve.
This is as close as you're going to get to the safety and welfare of
the residents that you serve, because it's the residents that we serve.
There has been a consolidation in the north half of the county, as
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has been described to you. The North Naples Fire District and the Big
Corkscrew Fire Control and Rescue District have merged into one. It's
done, it's over. Legislation, everything else, there is no doubt, we have
one fire district.
However, in that fire district we have two different levels of
service. And we knew that going into the merger. This is part of the
process, to fully continue our consolidation efforts in the north end of
the county. And we have other consolidations, you know about them,
they've gone on in the rest of the county. Four of the largest fire
districts in Collier County have now consolidated into two. I think
we're moving in the right direction. You all have been talking about
this for a long, long time. We're going there. It's moving there. It's
going to take a little time to continue on through this consolidation
effort, but this before you today is part of that consolidation effort.
That consolidation effort that we took part in in the north end of
the county, it was to improve efficiencies and increase service in this
new fire district. Today we're talking about increasing that service to a
portion of the North Collier Fire Control and Rescue District.
There's a geographical area of the North Collier Fire District
which is 290 square miles. There's a geographical area that's about
200 square miles. 200 square miles. In that 200 square miles roughly
a population of 25,000 people. 25,000 people in that 200 square miles.
In that 200 square miles there's one Collier County ambulance
that's stationed there at Medic 10, Station 10. There's one ALS fire
response vehicle. It's Attack 10. Attack 10 has one of your Collier
firefighter paramedics on Attack 10 in the North Collier Fire District
and one of the North Collier firefighters on Attack 10. That's two ALS
units responding into that area of 200 square miles, 25,000 residents,
two. Two paramedics on two different trucks.
You keeping up with me? Two.
Let's compare that to another geographical area in Collier County.
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City of Naples. City of Naples is 18 square miles. Population of
22,000 people. That's 3,000 less than in the service area we're talking
about.
How many ALS units do we have in the City of Naples? Four
engines, four apparatus in the City of Naples can provide advance life
support off of their firetruck before EMS arrives. You also have three
Collier County ambulances in that 18 square miles. That's eight ALS
response vehicles in an 18 square mile, 22,000 population community.
We have 200 square miles, 24,000 people, two ALS units.
We're asking you to approve us today to allow us to put two to
three more every single day emergency response ALS units up.
Nobody loses their job, we don't have to hire anybody else. We have
almost 100 paramedics in the North Collier Fire Control and Rescue
District, all state certified, approved by our medical director to operate
anyplace else in the county, any place but in our own district in the Big
Corkscrew Service Delivery Area.
My medics can operate in Greater Naples Fire District, my
medics can operate in the City of Naples, my medics can operate on
Marco Island, but they can't operate in our own district. 200 square
miles of our own district. That is outrageous in my mind. This is one
fire district, one population of with 125,000 (sic). Every person in my
district should get the same level of service. I don't care who you are,
where you live, when you call us, you should get the same level of
service if you live in Pelican Bay or if you live on DeSoto Boulevard.
It should be the exact same level of service by the guys that ride and
the women that ride in those red firetrucks all around our community.
This is not a big money issue. We're talking less than a half of
one percent of the total budget of the fire district.
This is not a money issue. This is doing the right thing for the
residents of our fire district of which most of you Commissioners
sitting up there represent some portion of the North Collier Fire
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District. And we thank you for all the support you've given the North
Naples Fire District in the past when you approved our COPCN five
years ago. That has enhanced the level of service in our area
tremendously. It has allowed Collier County EMS to rearrange some
of their units for the better of the entire county community. It's
allowed for the response times all across the county because you're
using our advanced life support units arriving on scene in your
combination of an ALS.
Same thing will work out in the Corkscrew area. When four of
those ALS units are working every day in Corkscrew, when they arrive
on scene the clock stops for the county on getting an ALS on scene.
Even though they're our firefighters. Even though they're our
firefighters.
Here's how crazy this is. Yesterday one of the North Naples
firefighters was working in North Naples. He's been a paramedic for
10 years working advanced life support for 10 years. Worked in North
Naples Service Delivery Area yesterday. His next shift, he's scheduled
on engine 10. Guess what? He's got to leave his medication at home,
he's got to leave his advanced life support equipment at home --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Where is Station 10?
CHIEF STOLTS: Station 10 is on Immokalee Road right at the
curve of Randall, Station 10 and --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: In the Corkscrew Service Area.
CHIEF STOLTS: In the Corkscrew Service Delivery Area in the
North Collier Fire Control and Rescue District. On around the corner,
make another right-hand turn, Everglades Boulevard in Immokalee is
Station 12. That's the only two fire stations that currently exist in the
Big Corkscrew --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Kind of like our staff talking
about the LDC, Land Development Code with a lot of acronyms in it.
CHIEF STOLTS: Halfway between those --
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: We need some clarification.
CHIEF STOLTS: -- two fire stations, Commissioner, is your
Station 10, which is an ambulance station. With one ambulance,
Walter, at Station 10? That's the only ambulance in that zone. 200
square miles.
Commissioners, I just ask that you think about this. Because I
can assure you we've gone through the COPCN process before. I
knew it was happening before we got the COPCN. Once we got the
COPCN, I knew what was happening after the COPCN. And we were
saving lives after we were approved to go to work.
Look around Collier County. City of Marco Island, every one of
their firefighters that are paramedics can step off of their firetrucks
before EMS arrives and perform advanced life support. Go to the City
of Naples, every one of their firefighters can step off of a firetruck and
perform advanced life support, if it's needed, before an ambulance
arrives. Go to Greater Naples, they're just now coming into the ALS
world, they're in that process right now. They're putting up ALS
engines and those firefighters are going to be able to get off a firetruck
and start advanced life support before EMS arrives.
Go all the way around the county, the only place -- if you do not
vote for this, the only place that a firefighter is not going to be able to
do that is the Big Corkscrew Service Delivery Area, 200 square miles,
24,000 population. Thank you very much for your time.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Chief, I have a couple of questions for
you.
CHIEF STOLTS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I understand what it is that you're telling
me. But sir, I want to explain something to you. When it comes to
getting the extra service out in my district, sir, it is all about money.
Because I want to tell you something, this county has never wanted to
spend the money out there, okay?
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CHIEF STOLTS: This fire district is willing to.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: The fire district is willing to?
CHIEF STOLTS: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Do the people that work in the Big
Corkscrew Island Fire District make the same as your firefighters in
North Naples?
CHIEF STOLTS: They're going to.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Do they today?
CHIEF STOLTS: They will when the union contract is over.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, let me tell you something. This is
what I get all the time. Maybe one day. Maybe one day things are
going to be equivalent. Okay, maybe one day there's going to be the
same service standard out there. Maybe one day people are going to
be paid the same. Maybe one day they're going to have the same
equipment. The equipment you have in North Naples dwarfs the
equipment in Big Corkscrew. It's like living in a third world country
out there compared to what you have in North Naples. You know it, I
know it. They don't have what they need to provide equivalent service.
They do not.
I have advocated from the beginning to put more money into
EMS, raise the service, get some more service out there. It's not
because your people don't want to, it's not because they're not
dedicated, it's not because they don't give it their all. They're doing
everything they can with what they've got, I truthfully believe that.
But I don't believe that this is going to give a pathway to provide
equivalent service. It's not. It's got too many problems at the onset,
sir. And it is all about money. That's why the questions about do you
have enough people to provide this service and fight a big fire at the
same time when you've got a limited amount of staff that you can
afford in Big Corkscrew Island.
The staff is underpaid and understaffed. You don't have the
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personnel you need to provide the service out there when you have
time and distance.
And it's not the fault of Big Corkscrew Island, it's a fault of
funding. Those people are being taxed as much as they can be taxed
out there. The county is simply not stepping up. And I just hate to see
EMS lose the position as being the central element that can fix that out
there. I only believe that through a central command can this be done.
And that's why I'm voting the way it is. I'm not voting because of
politics. I have nothing to politically gain from my position. Probably
most of the people in this room hate me right now. I don't want that, I
don't like that. But I can tell you something, I believe that knowledge
is power and you have to go with the best and brightest thinkers on this
topic. And I don't think we're doing that. And that's why I'm not
supporting it. I'm not supporting it because I don't trust you, it's not
because I don't want to spend more money. If I could raise taxes out
there or convince the other Commissioners to spend more money in
my district -- I did it before, I begged them. And they came through.
And now I'm seeing the money evaporate. I'm seeing the $265,000
that went into EMS to go into my district come back so that we can
have a COPCN out there. That to me is like kissing my sister, okay?
CHIEF STOLTS: I'll tell you what, leave your person there. I
would love to have Collier County leave that Collier County firefighter
paramedic on that truck. As a matter of fact, give me 10 more every
single day and I'll put them on every fire apparatus in North Collier
Fire District and I will enjoy that the rest of Collier County will pay for
that service.
Sir, I know all about command. I've been doing command all my
life.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I know you do, sir, you know more
about it than I do. You know more about it than I do. It's clear.
CHIEF STOLTS: I could also, if I was -- already had my agenda
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set in my mind of what I wanted, I could go out and find all kinds of
studies to support my position. Just like you I believe had your
preconceived motion on how you were going to vote on this, you could
go out and find whoever you want to support your position. I can do
the same for my position on this side of it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Sir, I'm just going by what's been
presented in this county.
CHIEF STOLTS: How old is that stuff? I know the ones you're
talking about. Some of those are 15 years old, sir.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, show me something that says
COPCNs and throw central command away and everybody has their
own medical director and then I'll support it. You bring me that study.
CHIEF STOLTS: Better than getting on scene and having to wait
10 minutes for somebody else to get there to --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I understand. There's always problems,
sir.
CHIEF STOLTS: We have one protocol across the county, we're
all working on the same protocol no matter what department we work
in in Collier County. Thank you for your time.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I ask you to repeat one thing
for the record? Because Commissioner Nance repeatedly says that
these people in Big Corkscrew are not getting anything out of this
COPCN.
Can you repeat again what is being provided that is not being
provided now? You know, this statement that 360,000 is being pulled
away and essentially like nothing is changing and somehow there's a
diminution in service. Can you explain how you are adding to what
Big Corkscrew has by way of ALS service at no additional cost to the
taxpayers of Big Corkscrew?
CHIEF STOLTS: Yes, ma'am.
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Currently today in the Big Corkscrew Service Delivery Area
those two stations we have identified, one station you have one engine
and one attack truck. The engine is staffed with two, the attack truck is
staffed with two. One of them being a Collier County medic. At the
other fire station --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I don't know what you mean.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, you have to define
everything you say. Please explain it, define, because we do not know
the tactical terminology.
CHIEF STOLTS: At Station 10 -- you have two fire stations in
the Corkscrew Service Delivery Area. At Station 10, which is one of
the two, you have one fire engine that is currently staffed with two
firefighters. One of those are a paramedic that is unable to practice at
this time. He needs the COPCN to do that.
The attack track, which is a smaller four-wheel drive vehicle that
goes out on a medical call -- if a medical call comes in that zone, that
smaller truck goes on the medical call -- it is staffed by two people:
One being a Big Corkscrew firefighter who's probably a paramedic as
well; and one being a Collier County firefighter/paramedic that you all
are putting on that truck every day seven days a week.
Up at Station 13 they have one engine, one firetruck, an engine,
with three people on it. If a medical call comes in, two of those people
will get off and take that smaller vehicle up in that station, which is
called an attack truck, and they will go on that medical call.
Currently one of those are a paramedic. But when they go on the
medical call without the COPCN they're not able to provide advanced
life support. They're paramedics, but they can't provide ALS.
So I've got -- currently up there I've got two engines and two
attack trucks that are in service. Today only one of them are ALS.
With the approval of this COPCN I can turn all four of those trucks
into advanced lived support response vehicles.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: So you're increasing the level of
service by four.
CHIEF STOLTS: Yes, ma'am. Adding three to the one that's
currently there today.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: At no additional cost.
CHIEF STOLTS: We have another opportunity that's come our
way. It appears that we're going to be able to put on 12 additional
firefighters in our district. We currently have roughly 180 firefighters
in the district. Adding another 12 we'll be able to bring -- I will bring
my minimum staffing up in that Big Corkscrew Island Fire District
right now. I do not believe on one guy going on a firetruck to a fire
call is sufficient. Two is not even close. Three we can barely get by
with. Four is appropriate. We're going to bring the staffing up in that
Corkscrew Service Delivery Area now that we have the opportunity to
do that.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And that 360,000 will remain with
EMS so that EMS can deploy the personnel funded by that 360 to
other areas of the county where we need additional help. So it's
actually a win/win, because we're not not going to spend that 360.
Collier County is going to spend that 360 in another area, providing a
higher level of service there, and then we are increasing the level of
service by four in Big Corkscrew at no additional cost to the
Corkscrew taxpayer.
CHIEF STOLTS: A cost that has been budgeted for this year's
budget. There will be a small cost to it. The firefighters are already
there, they're already trained, they're ready to go. We do have some
small ancillary equipment that has --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But the taxes are not going up.
CHIEF STOLTS: No, ma'am, they're going down.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's what I'm asking. The taxes
are not going to go up.
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CHIEF STOLTS: The level of service will drastically increase
and your taxes will go down. I don't know how else to say that.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, I don't see how we can wait
on a proposal like that. And I think the blood of the next person that
dies in Big Corkscrew is on our hands if that person needed the service
of an ALS paramedic and we didn't approve this today.
They are clearly short. If you compare the statistics between the
City of Naples with 22,000 people and 18 square miles to 200 square
miles and 25,000 people, that disparity of service exists today.
And here's a solution that at no extra cost and in fact saves the
county money by redeploying county assets to benefit other areas of
the county. It's a win/win. If.
You want to eliminate two classes, this is the step in the right
direction. To deny it is promoting two classes. It's allowing these poor
people to suffer, just like they have. This is an opportunity to save
lives. I really beg you. Second my motion.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, thank you very much.
One last question. It says there's adequate revenue base there
right now. That means with the 360,000 that you would be spending
for EMS, it will be the same amount that you bring back, only less; is
that what you're saying? I want to know exactly what we're really
saying. Because a lot of times we're hinting at it because you guys
know the subject so well and we do not.
CHIEF STOLTS: Commissioner, that 360,000 that's been
mentioned here, that's your Collier County cost of having your Collier
County paramedic ride on that Big Corkscrew firetruck. That's your
cost. So whatever you all want to do with that, that will totally be up
to you. Both Chief Kopka and Mr. Summers identified that there
would be no jobs lost. You can role those people over into the system.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Good. Well, if that -- then I
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misunderstood that.
So then what are they talking about? I've heard there's cost and
they can't afford it. And yet you're saying it's less of a cost. Tell me
what that really means.
CHIEF STOLTS: Currently today the Big Corkscrew Service
Delivery Area -- and you're right, sir, we do not have the contract
finalized yet, we're working on that. So we're working under two
different contracts, two different groups of employees. Even though
they're all employed by one district, the check is all the same. But
we're bringing that contract together.
Currently today the paramedics that live and work in the old
Corkscrew Fire District, we're getting paid to be paramedics. Our
paramedics that lived and work in the North Naples District, we're
getting paid to be paramedics. There's going to be some cost
harmonization to bring those salaries to where they're neutral. So there
will be a cost at bringing them up to where they're both being paid the
same to do the same level of service.
And then there will be a few -- some ancillary equipment that will
have to be purchased. We already have it, the majority of it. So our
cost projections on this are less than $100,000 start-up cost, and then
projecting to be probably 50 or $60,000 a year after that.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But you're not going to raise the
taxes to do that.
CHIEF STOLTS: No, the taxes are going down.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, how can taxes go down if
these are costs that are going to be paid? There must be an answer and
I just don't hear it.
CHIEF STOLTS: The property value -- since Big Corkscrew was
here in front of you last time for a COPCN and when they were denied
because of finance, two years have gone by. The following year they
got an 11 percent increase in their property value and new
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construction, so the value of their district went up 11 percent.
And then this year it's gone up 13 and a half percent. So you take
that 11 percent and that 13 and a half percent, the value of the district
or the income to the service delivery area of Big Corkscrew has
roughly gone up about $700,000 a year.
So we feel that we can take out of that 700, we feel we can carve
out less than $100,000 out of that increase to make up the small
difference to improve the service as great as it's going to be.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: One time charge or every year?
CHIEF STOLTS: That's a running cost every year. As you go on
calls, advanced life support calls you. You use supplies, you have to
replace those supplies. So whatever we use in the entire district --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, if you're taking EMS out and
there's an MSTU on the EMS, right? And if you --
CHIEF STOLTS: No.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- take that out -- no, there is no
MSTU on their EMS?
CHIEF STOLTS: No, ma'am.
MR. OCHS: It's an interlocal agreement. There's --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So who's paying for that service
right now?
CHIEF STOLTS: You are, the county.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We are. We pay 360,000 --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But what I'm trying to do, Georgia --
I'm sorry, Commissioner, is balance it.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right, so --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So I'm saying if this money goes out
then what comes in --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- to pay it?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: 100,000 of the North Naples --
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, but I want to hear him say
this, if you don't mind.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay, sorry.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Because this is what I've heard from
-- well, like Michael Ramsey, for instance. And I've heard it from
Commissioner Nance. Yet you're saying their cost will go down rather
than up.
So please explain what that means to me. I'm sorry I'm belaboring
this, but I think that's important to the subject.
CHIEF STOLTS: Our cost to provide ALS and the service
delivery area of Big Corkscrew will not go down. They didn't have
ALS to begin with. It will go up slightly. It will go up to offset the
difference of what their paramedics are getting paid today to what they
will get paid if we agree on a union contract. It will go up because
we're going to start using advanced life support supplies that they
never had to use before.
So the cost of providing advanced life support is minimal
compared to what you the county was paying on an annual basis to
provide one paramedic riding on one truck. I will get four trucks up
and running advanced life support, three on every day and four on the
days that we have the staffing for it versus the one. You were paying
300--
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So you're saying the county
expenses were higher. But then if we don't have that anymore, does
that get taken off their tax base?
CHIEF STOLTS: I'll leave that up to Leo and his staff.
MR. OCHS: We have three options: You can eliminate those
positions; you can use them to fill other vacancies that arise in your
EMS system through attrition; or you can redeploy those assets to a
zone that needs help meeting their service level standard. Or you can
leave them right where they are.
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CHIEF STOLTS: Did that answer your question, Commissioner?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, somewhat. Kind of.
In other words, if you want the extra service, you've got to pay for
it. That's what --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it's the opposite. It's a net
savings of--
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, he's saying though that if we
keep the EMS guys there we still have to pay for them or we can move
them to another area.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, but they're in your current year's
budget, so you're not increasing your budget or your fees or your
millage rate to carry that cost in your EMS system.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. But then if we adopt the
COPCN for that area, then that rate does go up, right?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No.
MR. OCHS: No, the rate doesn't go up to the North Naples Fire
District. They have incremental cost increase to provide that service is
what I heard Chief Stolts say. But they will absorb that cost with a
millage rate next year that apparently is going to be slightly lower than
it was this year for that service district.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But then the 100,000 that you
mentioned and then the other cost for equipment, that you said will go
on every year, right, that they do not have right now.
MR. OCHS: Sure. But it's like your countywide budget, ma'am.
If you keep your millage rate the same and your taxable value
increases, there's an incremental growth in revenue there that you can
apply. And I think they're looking at that same thing.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And we're paying 360 every year
for only one truck. That means the county money comes back and we
can redeploy it. They're going to provide four. So four times the level
of service, but their cost of providing that service is 100,000.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: He was talking about the revenue
they'd get with the increased property value, so --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- that's what they're talking about?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right. Which is what we're
getting.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I wasn't getting all of that out of
there. I just wanted to see how we can somehow protect the people
who are concerned about their rates going up.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: The Board of County
Commissioners directed to put extra manpower in the Corkscrew area.
The Board has to change that. Is that a part of your recommendation,
that the Board have a different direction, if approved?
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. I believe it is in your -- part of your
recommendation. And that would be within 30 days of that affirmative
action that we would terminate the interlocal agreement.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay, it's not up to you or your
staff, it's up to the Board of Commissioners as a part of this
recommendation.
MR. OCHS: That's right.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And the recommendation would be
to redeploy the 360,000 back to EMS to be able to -- where would you
like the 360 to go and your staff to go?
CHIEF KOPKA: That's -- for the record, Chief Kopka.
That would give us one additional paramedic firefighter each day
and we would use that paramedic firefighter to fill current vacancies
that we have on the schedule.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: That would be great. So we would
be able -- then that's what we should do, just redeploy that 360 and use
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it in the manner in which you describe. And I'll modify my motion to
make that an additional provision.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Did you get a second to your
motion?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Commissioner --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a second from Commissioner
Henning.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- Henning had seconded it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, we've had a lot of discussion.
Anything more?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: What do you want?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I'll vote with the -- I'm going to
vote with the original motion.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay, then I won't amend my
motion, I'll leave it as is and we can have a second motion on how to
deal with the 360.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, there's a motion and a second. All
those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All those opposed, like sign.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
I voted.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: The motion fails 2-3? You voted in favor
of the motion to approve or against?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Against.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I voted against.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I voted against. The motion fails
2-3.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And let me tell you one of the
overarching reasons I voted against this.
I heard several weeks ago before we went on our break our
County Manager saying that when he was brought into county
government they were talking about consolidation. And that was, Leo,
26 years, 24 years?
MR. OCHS: You're being kind, ma'am, 29.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay, okay.
You know, the time is now. And how can we bifurcate EMS and
talk about consolidation?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, I guess we should repeal the
COPCNs for all the other districts. I mean, let's pull it from East
Naples, let's pull it from the City of Naples. Let's start with the City of
Naples. And let's start with Golden Gate. You know, I'm going to
bring forward motions that we should pull the COPCNs across the
board. How's that? Would you like that?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: If there are any.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There aren't any.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, we do. I mean, are there any
other COPCNs out there? We have no COPCNs? Oh, so we're
circumventing the law and instead of awarding COPCNs we're
creating interlocal agreements to do indirectly what you don't want to
vote on directly because that's political.
I don't believe that those interlocal agreements are even legal.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: What's the next item?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Ochs.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: The next life is on you.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'd like to make a request. We've
had some folks from the economic development departments and
organizations here since the morning, and I've asked for four or five
consecutive items to be moved from the consent agenda regarding this.
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The reason I did this, and I'm losing my voice, I'm sorry, is I want
to ensure Collier County that economic development is alive and well.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let's do this. Let's take a 10-minute
break for the court reporter again since we've been talking
continuously on these agenda items. Let's come back at 3:26.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And then do the four --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: And then we'll try to do what we can.
Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
(Recess.)
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir, Mr. Ochs, let's see if we can
start harvesting some grain.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
Item #9A
ORDINANCE 2015-48: AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE
WINDING CYPRESS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
(CDD) PURSUANT TO SECTION 190.005, FLORIDA STATUTES
— ADOPTED
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Mr. Chairman, we have a 9.A that
should be so simple it should be in and out. Maybe you want to just
handle that before we get into more of this meaty stuff?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yeah, Mr. Yovanovich is probably
having to shave repeatedly in the back room.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I didn't even know if he was still
here.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Mr. Yovanovich is counting his
cha-ching, cha-ching.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: I forgot, he's got that little mobile meter
under his arm there, I see it.
And then we'll address your concern, Commissioner Taylor.
MR. OCHS: We're going to go to 9.A?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let's try to check that one off the list.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. That is a recommendation to consider
adoption of an ordinance establishing the Winding Cypress
Community Development District pursuant to Section 190.005, Florida
Statute.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second.
Discussion?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, the infrastructure's not in
yet?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Excuse me?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Winding Cypress, isn't that
infrastructure in yet? Did you break ground over there?
MR. YOVANOVICH: For the record, Rich Yovanovich.
Phase I is in, but subsequent phases are not yet in. Which is not
unusual for CDDs. Infrastructure will go in and it will be acquired by
the CDD and then subsequent phases will be funded by the CDD.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And the first person living there gets
to serve on the CDD, right?
MR. YOVANOVICH: Once we have a person living there we
have to elect somebody, because we can't force them to serve, but yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But it was written in the agreement
anyway.
MR. YOVANOVICH: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm just reiterating.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Further comments?
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(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second to
approve.
All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed, like sign.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Passes unanimously.
Next, Mr. Ochs?
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, Commissioners. Commissioner Taylor had
moved a series of agreements to extend our relationships with various
economic development partners from the consent agenda. We have
officers and directors representing those partners here, and I think I'll
just turn it to Commissioner Taylor for her comments first and perhaps
we could respond to those, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I think Collier County has kind of
gotten a one-two punch this summer with what's happened with the
grant and the promise of economic development. But from what I've
learned and from talking to staff and talking to the public that are
involved, directly involved, we're, you know, alive and well and rising
to the occasion.
And so I actually deliberately pulled these, not that I had any
questions, but that the public again would be clear on what we're doing
and how we're doing it and what happens on September 15th when the
grant money is no longer here. So I'm going to start I guess at the
beginning.
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Item #11H
AN FY 2016 AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTNERSHIP FOR
COLLIER'S FUTURE ECONOMY, INC. ("PCFE") AND BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN CONTINUED SUPPORT OF
THE ESTABLISHED PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP
DESIGNED TO ADVANCE OUR COMMUNITY'S BUSINESS
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
The first item that was moved is Item 11.H, and that's a
recommendation to approve the FY 2016 agreement between the
Partnership for Collier's Future Economy and the Board to continue the
established public-private partnership for local economic development
efforts.
Again, that is a continuation of the services agreement between
the Board and the Chamber of Commerce locally. There is no public
funding associated with this agreement; it assigns certain
responsibilities for economic development activities to the partnership.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
MR. OCHS: And that's a funded program for next year.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor, any ques--
Commissioner Henning, would you like to speak, sir?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Not on this item.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Not on this item, okay.
Questions, ma'am, for Mr. Register?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm still trying to find my notes.
Excuse me.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, it's fine on this.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: None? Okay, there's a motion to
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approve. Is there a second?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I think I seconded it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: You seconded it, okay.
If there's no further discussion, all those in favor, signify by
saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, that is passed unanimously.
Commissioner Taylor you're next. Item 11.I, is that the next one,
Mr. Ochs, in line?
Item #11I
A THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN
ECONOMIC INCUBATORS, INC., THE ADMINISTRATIVE
ENTITY FOR THE BUSINESS ACCELERATOR PROJECT, AND
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, that is a third amendment to the current
agreement with Economic Incubators. They are the administrative
entity that operates your business accelerator program. And the Board
-- and these were some changes to the scope of work, primarily the
deliverable schedule, to reflect the wind down of the grant on
September 15th as a result of the veto by the Governor to extend that
funding into the state's next fiscal year.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Is that 16.F.6?
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MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
MR. OCHS: It was. It's 11.I now.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: It's 11.I.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I know. On the form though it says
both 11.1 and 11.I. So I just wanted to clarify.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Register, you feel like you've
adjusted appropriately, sir? You're going to be able to weather the
storm until we see if we can get some recurring funding going on?
MR. REGISTER: Yes, sir. I believe that while that's an
appropriate question, I think it fits more readily to the next agenda item
which I believe would be the continuation of the agreement with EII,
which would be 11.J.
This agenda item, as the County Manager pointed out, really
provides some remedy to the changing environment created by the
veto to help us terminate -- not terminate, but to wind down the
agreement from the prior year. Because it had certain deliverables that
included some hiring and some activities that would have included the
Immokalee project. And with the veto that has -- for this fiscal
contract was made lawful. And so that's what this is cleaning up.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'll make one comment about the
circumstance. I had an opportunity to spend some time with Vice
President Payne and Dean Nick Place this past week, early in the week
and again late in the week because they had an extension conference at
the Naples Beach Club Hotel. And I was very happy to welcome over
500 professionals, professors, faculty members, staff and technicians
from IFAS over there and talk a little bit about our support for them,
their support for us, and I had a chance to visit with Dr. Payne.
I will tell you that Dr. Payne, you know, is trying to deal with a
request from the South Florida Ag. Council. He's trying to deal with a
request from South Florida Research and Education Center within his
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budget. And he's also trying to do what he can to work together with
us. As you're well aware, the extension position of Robert Halman
retiring was turned into a food -- a nutrition position in extension. And
Dr. Payne had signaled that he was creating a special state level
position in food science at Immokalee.
I have since understood that there may be a little bit of wavering
in whether that position is going to actually occur, because of his
anxiety over the waiver. So I would tell you that I believe it is in the
best interest of our economic development office, County Manager,
Board of County Commissioners to discuss this issue, our support for
IFAS, and I know you've got some elements in your legislative -- you
know, that's not on this agenda, but our legislative priorities to try to
nurture that environment and keep that position. That statewide
position exists nowhere else in the 13 other research and education
centers. It would be a first and a landmark position for Collier County
if we can maintain it.
My goal is to try to maintain that position. Because I believe if
the University of Florida is supporting us, it helps us get the Governor
to support us and vice versa. So I'll just throw that out right now.
Commissioner Henning, did you buzz in? Your light just --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I did on this one.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning, then
Commissioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Register, I understand there
needs to be changes because the grant changed. Do you anticipate any
further -- any future changes to these agreements?
MR. REGISTER: The -- this was an agreement between EII and
Collier County to help administrate a state grant that expires in
September. As part of that function it was deliverables that were
required to install a facility in Immokalee. When the veto became
evident, the ability to fulfill that agreement according to the
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specifications without an extension became rather limited.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I understand all that.
MR. REGISTER: So your question then more pointedly would
be that this will not happen again in any changes?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, no. Are you anticipating --
are you hearing any further changes to this program that will be on our
future agenda?
MR. REGISTER: You have an agreement to move forward with
EII in the preceding fiscal year that's 11.J that we'll be talking about in
just a moment. And I would expect that you'll see a robust legislative
agenda that will help us --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: But as far as the agreements and
their performance and things of that nature? The only reason I'm
asking is it seems like ever since this was created it's kind of a moving
target. It's not really stable. It's kind of like well, we forgot about this.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: They didn't forget about anything.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So are we seeing any further
changes to the agreement with the workforce housing officers and the
executives of the people running the incubator?
MR. REGISTER: I think that moving to the new agreement
you'll see a very stable well respected board --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Disagreement?
MR. REGISTER: 11.J, which is the --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Next one.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, next one.
MR. REGISTER: -- successor agreement of this should be
providing some satisfaction to your concerns, Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Everybody's lights are on. We're going
to Commissioner Fiala, followed by Commissioner Taylor, and then
back to Commissioner Hiller.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: You brought this concern up and so
my question is more or less to you but to other Commissioners as well.
Could we bring this need up at our -- to our legislative
delegation? I think that would be important. And maybe when I go up
to Tallahassee I can -- and you ought to come up with me to
Tallahassee. Maybe not with me, but in --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, I'm looking forward to our
workshop on the 10th.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Good.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: And I will provide you with some
advanced reading information,just so you can kind of get a flavor for
it. And then I will do everything I can to bring you up to speed
quickly, because I know you've got many things.
But I'm really focused on this. I think it's important. I think
we've got a chance to kind of pull the iron back out of the fire, you
know. And that's what I'm trying to do, I'm trying to just keep the ball
in the air right now until we can get back in the outfield.
MR. REGISTER: Commissioners, if I could add, today sitting in
the boardroom with us because they understand how important this is,
a lot of the partners that will be helpful and part of the process, that we
look forward to working with the legislative lobbying effort of the
county and working with the local legislative delegation and the
University of Florida's Ag. Council.
These folks are here because they have a vested interest and they
believe in this project and they are very concerned about us moving
forward and finding the success that this original promise had
provided.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir. This holiday's kind of had us a
little bit mucked up, Mr. Register. I would appreciate about an hour at
your earliest convenience with Mr. Goodman tomorrow if possible to
talk a little bit about where you are so you can background me a little
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bit and I can tell you the latest and greatest since last week, because it's
been kind of-- you know, it's been back-to-back-to-back.
MR. REGISTER: I would be delighted.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you, sir.
Commissioner Taylor, then Commissioner Hiller.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I need to understand what
happens with the performance -- the agreements in the grant that we
only receive partial receipt of. What happens to all those stipulations
within it?
MR. REGISTER: That is the premise for your consideration in
11.1.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. REGISTER: If you'll look in the agreement, it's been
marked up to show the changes. And they're very specifically -- in the
last two quarters for performance it discusses and points out that one
staff member of FTE was reduced because there was no need to hire
new staff when we didn't have continuation funding. That was due to
the veto.
We also needed to focus on making certain that we were not
moving forward with the exact plan for the eastern Collier accelerator,
which is commonly known as the Immokalee project. And we had to
make certain that the continuation budget of personnel was
commiserate with what we had already planned and previously had
approved by this Board.
And so by adopting 11.I we are reconciling this -- these
performance requirements of the past fiscal year for EII with the reality
of the situation as we move forward.
And our next step will be to ask your consideration of a successor
agreement moving forward past September 15th with EII that we had a
little bit of discussion before your break. And I'd be happy to go over
those details with you at that point.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. All right.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Are you satisfied, Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes, I am.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Would you like to make a motion,
ma'am?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Make a motion to approve.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I will second it.
Any further discussion -- oh, I'm sorry, Commissioner Hiller. So
sorry.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: With respect to Commissioner
Henning's statement about will there be any future changes, I would
certainly hope so. This project has been very successful and has been
on a projectory which can only be described as upwards and positive.
So when you have a new project that is going through growth in a
positive way, you would hope that agreements will be modified to
continue to make it as successful as it has been.
So, you know, what's happened to us with the legislature can
happen. Whenever you get grant funding it's always subject to
appropriation. We will work hard to lobby. And, you know, if we
have to, lobby incrementally which means, you know, let's start by
funding the west and then, you know, secondly funding the east, that's
what we'll do. You know, piecemeal is not bad either.
But this is a very successful project, and I think everybody on the
team, both in the public and in the private sector have worked in a
really exemplary fashion to make it what I think will become a
standard bearer project for the rest of the state. It wouldn't surprise me
that this accelerator model will be duplicated in other communities
matching everything we have done, because it has proven to be so
good.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I'd like to second the motion
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after Commissioner Henning asks to call the vote.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I think there's a motion and a
second on the floor.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yeah, I seconded it already,
Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Oh, did you? Forgive me --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I apologize, I didn't hear it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: No worries.
Yes, Commissioner Henning, please.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, let's vote.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Call the question.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: No further comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right it's unanimous.
Commissioner Taylor, 11.J.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. This is when I guess the --
and I believe that's 16.F.7; isn't that correct?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, ma'am.
Item #11J
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A SUCCESSOR AGREEMENT BETWEEN ECONOMIC
INCUBATORS, INC., THE ADMINISTRATIVE ENTITY FOR THE
BUSINESS ACCELERATOR PROJECT, AND THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2016 AND
APPROVE NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS —
APPROVED
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. So here we go with the
money and the new organization. So Mr. Register?
MR. REGISTER: Commissioner, we had a serious discussion
July 7th when it became apparent that there was a crossroads to
determine whether we proceeded and moved forward as a result of the
Governor's veto.
At that time we put together a proposal that anticipated an
expenditure from the county for 2016, fiscal year, $589,500 to fund the
program moving forward to the end of fiscal year '16.
So what we have done is integrated that into a new agreement
with our partner, Economic Incubators, Inc., in an effort to move this
project forward in a deliberate fashion, accommodating the growth we
anticipate. And we're moving forward with a -- the continued
expansion of the physical parameters of the location. And we've also
focused on making certain that there was adequate anticipation of
business income as well as private sector donations, which are
integrated into this agreement.
It does provide us the latitude to monitor and closely partner with
this project and continue in our fiscal agent role. And EII will continue
as the administrative entity. And I can tell you that with the emergence
and transition of the advisory committee that was formed and would
like to take a moment to congratulate the workforce board for their
courageous efforts to help us launch this, and so we're seeing this as a
representation and a step for an orderly transition into that to be 501c3
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entity that we had envisioned at the inception of this project.
So I want to ask for your consideration of adopting this
agreement. It has an austere annual budget that's comprising county
funding to be used in the primary sense as the expenditures occur. But
more importantly, the private sector donations, as well as the business
income will become the driving force for this operation and it will
become self-sustaining in the future years as we move forward.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to approve.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There is a motion to approve. Is there a
second?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'll second it.
Any further discussion? Commissioner Taylor, then
Commissioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay, so the amount -- the county
provides $589,500 for the reimbursement/payment of acceleration
project. And then the EII reimbursement is 484. That means that
comes back to us? How does that -- that's -- I'm a little confused by
that.
MR. REGISTER: Commissioner, $484,000 is set aside for this
contract to be provided in a reimbursement fashion to EII as they make
their expenditures. We anticipate because of the arrangement we made
to lease -- for the leasehold interest in the facility that they will be
moving into, the expanded building and room they need for their
growth is a direct pay from the county, because we acted on behalf of
the project to -- directly with the landlord, and subleased it to EII. So
we'll be making direct pay on the lease for the time being. And the 484
will be continuing to be a direct reimbursement, as most other county
contracts are.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: From EII?
MR. OCHS: To EII.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Reimbursement to EII to pay for
the --
MR. OCHS: The employees that staff the facility, the equipment,
furnishings, services, et cetera.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And that's on an annual basis?
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, just a question. I know I saw
it someplace, I've been looking through my book here, that you had
some expenses now for furniture and so forth. Was that on this
contract as well? You had custom made furniture. And then through
EII, because they didn't have a 501c3, we had to pay $20,000 extra in
taxes, right? Sales tax?
MR. REGISTER: Commissioner, we anticipate that we will be
able to capture state funds to pay for the materials, including the
furnishings and the modular furnishings that will become an asset of
this project. It can move forward -- if this relocates to a different
facility, that asset, those modular walls and modular furniture are a part
of this project now. They move with it.
We anticipate being able to capture the cost of at least the
materials from the state and we are -- as we speak, they're installing
this furniture. And if we can coax our vendor to finish before the 15th,
and we've been successful to this point, we will be able to extract the
installation costs from the state as well.
But we had anticipated -- we had no certain knowledge of this
when we brought the July 7th decision to you to move forward or not
to move forward.
So anticipating the worst, hopefully expecting the best but
anticipating the worst, we had carved out some funding that would
have enabled us to incrementally muddle through with perhaps a
different strategy on the furniture. But once we approved your
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direction on the 7th, the state was forthcoming and provided us
assurance that they would indeed pay for the materials of the
furnishings as long as we invoiced and acquired those before the 15th,
and they would pay for the install if that occurred before the 15th.
So we are crossing our fingers and hoping for the sake of this
project that our vendor can finish that install on the 15th. I would be
delighted to take whoever would care to go see that this week and see
the progress. We're very excited about what's happening there.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: How much did that furniture cost
us? Would you please let me know?
MR. REGISTER: I think it's in the -- including the install, it was
roughly $330,000, if I'm not mistaken. Is that correct? Roughly?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: $330,000 for furniture.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And that's for 10,000 square feet?
MR. REGISTER: 10,000 square feet.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Was there a sales tax on that or
not?
MR. REGISTER: And I apologize, I didn't fully answer your
question.
Anticipating that EII would have had their 501c3 by this point led
us to believe that we would not have incurred the sales tax for that. But
that has not happened at this point, so we've discovered that the sales
tax will be -- unless we can determine a method of exempting this
project from the sales tax, we will have to find an appropriate revenue
source to pay for that funding. But as you all know, sometimes the
cost of business can be concerning.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I remembered somewhere that we
were going to use furniture, and it didn't say secondhand, but it said
something about --
MR. REGISTER: I believe the term was donated furniture.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay.
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MR. REGISTER: And that was prior to our knowledge of the
Board's decision on the 7th, July 7th, and the subsequent decision by
the State and the Department of Division of Financial Services that
they would indeed provide us the certified forward period, that's the
term that the State uses, a certified forward period, and they
acknowledged in writing that they would provide us that support for
the financial cost of the furnishings and install, as long as it occurred
by the 15th. But we did not know that before we brought that to your
attention and asked for your direction. So we had to move forward
with the best information that we had.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And this is for the incubator?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Accelerator.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, for the accelerator.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: At the Kraft building?
MR. OCHS: At the Kraft center, yes, the new space that's being
completed right now.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: This is like to teach people how to
run a business or something? Do they pay for that, or is there any
income coming from that?
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
MR. REGISTER: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commission --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Could you tell me where it is?
MR. REGISTER: The anticipated projected income is going to
be $115,200. $115,200.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: $118,573. That's what you said
in the January meeting -- or July meeting.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, I think we're at Commissioner
Hiller, then Commissioner Taylor, then back to Commissioner
Henning. Is that right? I think.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: The furniture will be owned by the
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non-profit. And in the event that the business ceases to exist, it reverts
back to the county.
MR. REGISTER: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And this furniture --
MR. REGISTER: Actually, Commissioner, if you would allow,
it would have first right of refusal at the State level.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right, okay. So first right of
refusal at the State level and then otherwise it flows back to the county.
And with respect to those furnishings that will be used in 10,000
square feet, what's the -- how many people are anticipated to fill that
10,000 square foot space? How many, you know, when you add up all
the businesses and staff, do we know what the total number expected
to be will rise to?
MR. REGISTER: You know, I'm going to answer with what I do
know. And I believe that we've anticipated 20 to 30 companies. But
I'll also turn to --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: 20 to 30 companies at one time?
MR. REGISTER: I believe so.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And how many individuals
approximately per company housed?
MR. OCHS: Identify yourself for the record.
MR. GOODMAN: Marshal Goodman, Director of Naples
Accelerator.
I would foresee about 40 to 60. You know one of the companies,
Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: 40 to 60 --
MR. GOODMAN: Individuals.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- individuals.
MR. GOODMAN: 20, 30 companies. We have some very
dynamic companies, one which you're aware of. Fit Nation.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah. Well, I know we have a lot
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of companies. I'm not talking about today and I know that, you know,
we're on a trajectory to bring in more. But I'm just curious, at
build-out for that space what we anticipate the number of users of that
space to be when it's fully occupied. How many people will be housed
in the 10,000 square feet, including staff?
MR. GOODMAN: Approximately, I'd say on a daily basis, about
40.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: 40 people?
MR. GOODMAN: Yeah. But we have a lot of visitors that are
visiting those companies, so there's typically tremendous activity. So
about 40 to 60 individuals coming and going. It's dynamic space so it's
hard to answer --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, I understand. And we had
visited the same model up in Boston which this was modeled after.
And yes, I do understand that it's a very dynamic space. I just wanted
to have an idea of what the permanent population would be once we
had as many companies as we, you know, hoped to bring in-house.
MR. GOODMAN: Absolutely. About 40.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay.
And as far as the sales tax goes, so because the furniture was
bought in the name of the non-profit before it was awarded its non-
profit status, it didn't have the tax exempt status?
MR. REGISTER: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And the county couldn't have
brought it and then --
MR. REGISTER: We're going to be investigating all the
alternatives.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Because we're tax except so we
could actually make the acquisition and save the funding and then
donate the goods to -- donate the furniture to the non-profit.
Because again, there's a reverter. If the non-profit doesn't exist, I
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mean, it goes like you said, first to the State or to us.
MR. OCHS: We can explore that.
MR. REGISTER: We can take a look into that. But I believe
there might be some timing and procurement issues involved. But we
will look into that. Every possible remedy, let me put it that way.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And this money that's coming
from the State, the final payment covering all of this, it's not -- it's a
grant, it's not a loan?
MR. REGISTER: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It's definitely coming.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor, please continue.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's it, that's all I have.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: July 7th meeting the Workforce
Development Board brought together their budget. And in that it said
they were going to spend some monies for a printer, I think, or a copier
or something like that. And now the budget is changing? That's going
to have to come back to the Board of Commissioners; is that correct?
MR. OCHS: No, sir, the budget that the Board approved for this
project on July 7th is the same budget that's projected in this agreement
going forward for 2016.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: In this agreement, okay.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So why are we talking about
furniture? I mean, it's not even on the agenda, right?
MR. OCHS: No, there was a question that came up --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It was me that brought it up. And I
had noticed that the furniture was there. But I saw another paper. I'm
sorry I didn't -- and that's what I was looking for. So I asked him, but
then he was the one that pointed out that part of that $484,000 is the
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furniture which is $330,000, and then the sales tax is $20,000. And I --
and you said instead of using the donated furniture, the State said
they'd pay for it so you bought it; is that it, or --
MR. REGISTER: In essence, yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Wonder if the State doesn't come by
like they just took away part of your money before, now you have to
reduce the services that you can give. I wonder if they don't pay for
that, then what happens? Who pays for that?
MR. REGISTER: There's an underlying agreement that is fully
aligned with September 15th is the cut-off dates. We followed the
basic premise of the original agreement. We were just making certain
to protect the fiduciary responsibility that we wanted to be sure that the
State had considered all the circumstances, and so we clarified that
after July 7th in writing, and we have that for your review, if you care,
before we made the decision to move forward with the new furniture.
And as I said, we're hopeful that with the install, with some luck
and good faith of our vendor, we'll have that installed by the 15th and
we can claim that full amount from the State.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: And basically that represents the last
expenditures of the grant that we were able to --
MR. REGISTER: Correct.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- take advantage of. So it just happened
to be furniture.
MR. REGISTER: Correct.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, any other comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Is there -- there's a motion and a second
on the floor to approve the successor agreement. Is there any further
conversation?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
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by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commission Fiala -- it's 4-1 with
Commissioner Fiala in dissent.
Item #11K
FISCAL YEAR 2016 AGREEMENT BETWEEN SOUTHWEST
FLORIDA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ALLIANCE, INC. AND
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, the last item that Commissioner
Taylor asked to be moved was a recommendation to approve the fiscal
2016 agreement between Southwest Florida Economic Development
Alliance and the Board of County Commissioners. This would be the
second year of a continued partnership with the Alliance funded at the
same $100,000 level that the Board funded the current year's
agreement with.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Move approval.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second for
approval.
Discussion?
Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, would it be possible for you to
give us a report, a success report on what companies you've already
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brought to this area? You've been in business what, two and a half
years or three years, somewhere right in that area. I'd love to know
what businesses you've brought into the area, which is what you're all
about anyway. And in the accelerator program, what have they
accomplished, what -- it would be interesting to see that. I think it
would give me a lot more confidence to see that you're moving
forward if I saw a report or anything. Not just expenses but a report as
to accomplishments.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: On the Southwest Florida Regional
Alliance?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Huh?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We're on the Southwest Florida
Regional --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, I'm still talking about this thing.
I'm just talking about reports from the Economic Development
Council.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: What item are we on? Because I
thought we were on 11.K.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: We're on 11.K.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, but I'm still back on the other
subject. I meant to ask him that before, and so I'm just asking that
maybe within the next month or so, you could give us a report so we
can see. We're spending a lot of money and I'd like to see some
results.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am, we'll bring that report to the Board.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: To economic development --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Back to the fiscal year 2016 agreement
between Southwest Florida Economic Development Alliance, Inc. and
the Board.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to approve.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second.
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COMMISSIONER HENNING: There is.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Sir?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, there is.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, thank you very much. That is
unanimous.
MR. OCHS: Thank you, Commissioners.
Item #11D
SCOPE OF WORK AND AN OUT-OF-CYCLE COLLIER
COUNTY TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL CATEGORY
"A" GRANT APPLICATION FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO CLAM
PASS BEACH PARK FOR FISCAL YEAR 2015/2016 IN THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1,160,000, TO AUTHORIZE NECESSARY
BUDGET AMENDMENT AND TO MAKE THE FINDING THAT
THIS EXPENDITURE PROMOTES TOURISM — APPROVED
That would take us, Mr. Chairman, back to Item 10 -- excuse me,
11.D on your agenda.
That is a recommendation to approve a scope of work and an out
of cycle Collier County Tourist Development Council category A
grant application for improvements to the Clam Pass Beach Park for
fiscal year 2015-2016.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion to approve and a
second.
Any comments?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor and then we have
some public speakers and I'd like to also make some comments.
Commissioner Taylor, please, first.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I've asked Lee, my executive
coordinator, to send you a letter that I sent to Growth Management
regarding this project.
When it came before the TDC, as you know, I'm chairman of the
TDC, I questioned whether we could improve the parking lot rather
than just paving it, if we could do something more. And the reason --
and then I sent a letter. But my concern was, and I spoke to Mr.
Casalanguida about this, is that the budget for the parking lot did not
change from the original I want it paved to what I was talking about.
And I'm clearly -- I think it's going to be more money.
So I guess basically I'm just asking my colleagues here if they
come back with a change order because it's maybe more
environmentally safe for an estuary and for the water quality and for
stormwater management. I hope we have your consent and support on
that.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I have a question. What did the
rest of the TDC members think about that?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, basically it was
unanimously and I was voting to go forward because I was told it
would cost more money by the project manager at the time. But as I
sat there and thought about it --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: So they approved it as it is?
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You know what? Sometimes I'm
on the losing end too.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, it's not being on the losing
end. It's just I thought we could look at other ideas. And I think that's
what I'm asking for.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's not on the agenda. The
item on the agenda is to approve the TDC's recommendation and under
Florida Statutes that is the body that that needs to go to. It was vetted
through Parks and Recs advisory board. So, you know, it has to go
back through that chain of command.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And I don't have a problem with
that.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I just want to air it.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Any future changes has to be --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Properly.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: -- properly aired and it has to be
on our agenda. But that's not this agenda.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Right, right. But it's the idea that
even when it was reported in the paper today, it talked about paving
the parking lot. And that never was at least this Commissioner's
intention. So I'm airing it now. I'm just --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Is that what's on here, pave the
parking lot? Pave the parking lot.
MR. WILLIAMS: Barry Williams --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: He's just mean today.
MR. WILLIAMS: -- Parks and Recs.
We wanted to look at a couple things. And I think the one thing
that The Conservancy offered to us was to look at water quality --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: They should have went to the
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pay rep. They're always late. I mean, you know, they're always late to
the table.
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, you have the staff recommendation
in front of you.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: That's good. Commissioner, I'd say just
work it up and bring it back. I mean, I'm --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay, good, I'm just --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- depending on you all -- to me it's
really a really good news item.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, and it's really needed.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yeah. I think it's getting a lot of positive
press. It's a great facility, I think they pared it back, and they answered
all the problems.
So Commissioner Henning, you have further remarks?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, don't put my name on the
bathroom like you have the others. Put Commissioner Hiller's name on
there, since it's in her district. And her cell phone number.
MR. WILLIAMS: We won't do that either.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Oh, holy mackerel, let's not go there.
Public speakers?
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, we have one registered speaker.
Nicole Johnson.
MS. JOHNSON: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Nicole
Johnson, here on behalf of The Conservancy of Southwest Florida.
And in looking at the project specifics in your executive
summary, I -- the way that I read it, the resurfacing of the parking lot is
going to include water quality improvements and upgrades in the
design. So Barry can confirm that so that maybe that gets to your --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But the budget didn't change, and
that was the issue.
MR. OCHS: Right.
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MR. WILLIAMS: Commissioner, our recommendation going
forward was that that dollar amount with the thought of resurfacing
and, you know, with the suggestion of looking at possible ways to
improve water quality.
There are some expensive propositions to do that. And part of the
process, we can look at those. But we hoped to be as efficient as we
can with the dollars to make those improvements.
That site is designed with water quality considered. So, you
know, ways that we can improve that is kind of what we want to look
at as we go out to bid and develop the scope. So hopefully that helps
you a little.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, we'll look at it.
MR. WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am.
MS. JOHNSON: Give me my time back.
The Conservancy does believe that as the project scope has been
discussed with staff that what you have before you is something that is
environmentally supportable. We believe that environmentally it is
consistent with protecting the very, very special and sensitive Clam
Pass and Clam Bay system. And we also believe that this scope is
something that the community is supportive of.
Staff really went back to the starting line after they had direction
from the Board to go back, to get community input and to bring
something new forward. And they met with us and we very much
appreciate that they incorporated our recommendations, but they also
reached out to all stakeholders.
So staff did a really, really very good job with this. The
Conservancy will certainly offer our time and resources and expertise
and ideas for water quality improvements for the parking lot. We
believe that what is before you today is a good project. And again,
thank you to staff for reaching out for working with us, for working
with the community on this. Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you.
Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Hank, is this your project?
Don't put my name on the bathrooms, okay? All right, thanks.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: If you want his number, just call
me. For a good time.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, there's a motion and a second.
Any additional discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Passes unanimously.
Item #11E
REQUEST FOR QUOTE #15-6511, "PUBLIC UTILITIES TERM
LOAN," WITH BANK OF AMERICA, N.A. AS THE QUALIFIED
FINANCIAL INSTITUTION TO PROVIDE A FIXED INTEREST
RATE, NON-BANK QUALIFIED TERM LOAN, IN AN AMOUNT
NOT TO EXCEED $18,000,000, TO PROVIDE PARTIAL
REFUNDING OF COLLIER COUNTY WATER-SEWER
DISTRICT'S WATER AND SEWER REVENUE BONDS, SERIES
2006, TO ACHIEVE DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS OF
APPROXIMATELY $1.18 MILLION — APPROVED
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MR. OCHS: Item 11.E is a recommendation to award a request
for quote number 15-6511, that's the public utilities term loan, to Bank
of America as the qualified financial institution to provide a fixed
interest rate non-bank qualified term loan in an amount not to exceed
$18 million --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you for saving the money.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Absolutely. We have a motion --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And I hope the savings is that of
the cost to originate the new loan.
MR. BELLOWS: It is.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'm just kidding. Thank you very
much.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Two seconds, the tie from Commissioner
Taylor and Fiala.
Any comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Great. Good news item.
All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Thank you. Unanimous approval again.
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Item #11F
A REQUEST FROM THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA REGIONAL
PLANNING COUNCIL (SWFRPC) FOR A ONETIME
ASSESSMENT TO FUND A LOAN BALLOON PAYMENT FOR
THE REAL PROPERTY AT THEIR HEADQUARTERS — MOTION
TO DENY — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, 11.F is a recommendation to
consider a request from the Southwest Florida Regional Planning
Council for a one-time assessment to fund a loan balloon payment for
the real property at their headquarters.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Motion to deny.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion and a second. Any
conversation?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'd just like to say a couple of things. I
really had high hopes for the Southwest Florida Regional Planning
Council. As you know, I've served as a member for the Board for
quite some time. But I believe that there's a clear signal that the
Governor's not going to support these regional planning councils
anymore, and I think that message is going to be heard from other
counties.
I don't know, Mr. Ochs, do you hear any determination from any
of your colleagues in other counties?
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir, I have calls in to them. I did speak with
Mr. Desjarlais who is my counterpart in Lee County who advised that
the Lee County Board took this matter up last week and voted not to
participate in this funding request. So that's one of the larger
contributors, along with us and Sarasota. I haven't had calls back from
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the other managers yet.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I am a believer in regional planning and
thinking. I hope something will come forward, but I think maybe
perhaps this entity has run its course, so I can support the motion.
Any other comments?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Sell the building.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, the problem --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I think it's a whole, sir. I think it's debt.
Maybe not.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And when I learned from County
Manager Ochs that Lee County turned it down --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I think that's the end.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: The end.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: There's a motion to deny. All those in
favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, it's denied unanimously.
Item #12A
AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ADVERTISE AN
ORDINANCE FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION WHICH WOULD
AMEND ORDINANCE NO. 1975-16, AS AMENDED, BY
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REVISING RECONSIDERATION OF MATTERS BY THE BOARD
OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS — MOTION TO APPROVE
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CONTRACTS BEING
RECONSIDERED — APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, that takes us to
Item 12.A, which was previously 16.K.9. This is a recommendation to
authorize the County Attorney to advertise an ordinance for future
consideration which would amend the reconsideration of matters by
the Board of County Commissioners. And this was brought forward
on the agenda by Commissioner Henning.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, I don't have a burning
desire to have a discussion on this item that I pulled off the agenda like
I did the last one I pulled off the agenda.
Really simple. I think the only thing that we need to change on
the reconsideration is the contracts cannot be reconsidered. There are
some other items, and you may get some new information that you
might want to reconsider. Okay?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: That's a motion, sir?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I'll second it.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That's a direction to the County
Attorney.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So you're talking about
maintaining the original time frame --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- on anything, but never to
reconsider a contract?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Right. That was the law. I
mean, I don't understand never -- I still don't understand contract law
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unless it's in the Florida statutes. I mean -- so anyways.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Klatzkow?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I don't want to go down that
road again.
MR. KLATZKOW: Policy decision, I'd be happy to do that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: We've got a motion and a second to
change only the elements that pertain to contracts.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Can I ask one question? Did the
courts rule that government contracts can't be reconsidered? I mean,
there are so many contracts that, you know, through statute allow for
rescission or reconsideration like the Lemon Law with cars or, you
know, Employment at Will, I mean, the oral contract for services,
things like that.
What exactly did the court rule? And I understand what's
precipitating this, but I want to understand what exactly the ruling was.
Did the court rule on our ordinance?
MR. KLATZKOW: The oral arguments were that the court did
not like our reconsideration one little bit and the written decision
simply ignored the issue.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So the holding didn't include any
discussion on the validity of the ordinance?
MR. KLATZKOW: Correct.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Interesting.
What was the holding -- the holding was --
MR. KLATZKOW: The trial court ruled in favor of Mr. Curry
and the court of appeals simply affirmed. There was --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No discussion.
MR. KLATZKOW: There was no discussion on the reconsider--
it was ignored.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It was ignored.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, Commissioner Fiala?
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: So now that was because it was a
long-term thing. But say for instance one of the concerns I had, and I
spoke to Leo about this, if say for instance you finish the meeting and
next week comes and here the newspapers are screaming about
something or another about a company that did wrong, but that's still
within the first two meetings. Could you reconsider then or --
according to the way it's written right now, it only goes to the end of
the meeting. What happens if you discover something after the end of
the meeting? But not six months in advance but -- or six months
behind.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, Commissioner Henning's motion
was not to change anything but just to eliminate the reconsideration on
contracts, to leave all the other reconsiderations exactly as you've
enjoyed it in the past.
Am I right, Commissioner?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: And that's my second.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, I understand that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: So we just wouldn't be able to reconsider
contracts.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, okay. So --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Everything else remains the same.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: All right. Okay. I just want to make
sure that whatever contracts we're talking about we're -- you know,
because now we're talking about human being contracts, but then we're
talking about contracts on what. You know, I just want to make sure
that we --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, what the motion is, is
basically all contracts, whether it's --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Every contract.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- widgets or services, it doesn't
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matter.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Even land use contracts.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, land use is a
reconsideration process under a different part of the ordinance.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, because I remember reading
in here, it said land use we would keep the same. But -- okay. I just
want to -- I like to have everything clarified, like all the T's crossed and
the I's dotted. Okay.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, there's a motion and a second
as suggested by Commissioner Henning.
Any further discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, all those in favor, signify
by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed, like sign.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: That passes unanimously.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So County Attorney, what if we
have a provision in a contract that says subject to revision within a
two-week period and not have an ordinance, for example?
MR. KLATZKOW: You could do that. The concern that I had
was that you have many items that are going to be time sensitive and
that puts an awful lot of pressure on staff to try to ensure that the
executive summaries are clear, that this particular contract is time
sensitive so the Board would waive the policy of whatever the
reconsideration would be.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well again, let's say we have a
blanket provision that we put in all our contracts that say subject to,
you know, rescission at the pleasure of the Board within a stipulated
period and make it a standard provision.
MR. KLATZKOW: You can do that, but you have many, many
contracts that are time sensitive. They would have to be waived.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But there's no difference between a
contract that's time sensitive and our ordinance that allows for
reconsideration applying to those contracts. It's the same picture.
Yeah, because, I mean, you have a time sensitive contract and we
sit there and, you know, two weeks later we decide for some reason it
doesn't work, or --
MR. KLATZKOW: Commissioner, most of your contracts have
a 30-day termination for convenience clause anyway. And I think
that's probably the measure to go to if you find that there's been some
fraud involved or some --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Then I think we should as a
protective policy do that. And maybe you could bring something back
that provides that every single contract will have a provision that
states, you know, subject to termination at will for no cause within 30
days.
MR. KLATZKOW: But most of them have that.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, let's not say most of them,
let's make it a policy that all will.
MR. KLATZKOW: But you can't because a lot of these contracts
are negotiated and the vendor wouldn't want that.
We strive to put the termination for convenience clause in there.
You're not going to get them in all the agreements.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, you don't want it for the
County Manager and County Attorney's contract, do you?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, maybe today.
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MR. OCHS: Second.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Maybe today.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: You can't speak to that because
you have a conflict.
MR. OCHS: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: This is the day to discuss it for sure.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And you wouldn't want to terminate
it.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But then to the extent that you can,
you should make sure that it's included in all these agreements.
MR. KLATZKOW: And we do.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay. It's clearly important.
Because it wasn't in those employment agreements.
MR. KLATZKOW: That's because they had severance clauses.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Got it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Ochs?
Item #13A
TO RECORD IN THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS, THE CHECK NUMBER (OR OTHER
PAYMENT METHOD), AMOUNT, PAYEE, AND PURPOSE FOR
WHICH THE REFERENCE DISBURSEMENTS WERE DRAWN
FOR THE PERIODS BETWEEN JULY 1 AND AUGUST 26, 2015
PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE 136.06
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, your next item is Item 13.A. It was
previously 16.J.4, moved to the regular agenda at Commissioner
Fiala's request.
This is a -- I will refer to it as a disbursement report for lack of a
better description right now.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, I don't have it right in
front of me, but let me just go back and say all I was concerned with is
I wanted to make sure that it also said in there that it's a matter of
public purpose; we have voted on it and consider it a matter of public
purpose. So that when we pay for it that that can never come back to
haunt us.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, I agree.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I think -- can I speak? May I?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Thank you.
I think it's extremely important that the report prepared by the
Clerk clearly state that he has pre-audited as required by law. And to
that extent that he has insured that the monies are in the budget, that
the procurement was done according to local or state law, and that the
expenditure was made for a public purpose.
And then Commissioner Fiala is correct, the next thing that
should happen is that it should ask that the Board find that a valid
public purpose was served and that we approve for payment.
I have several concerns, and I'm very glad you brought this
forward, Commissioner Fiala, because it appears that the Clerk is
making payment ahead of the Board's approval that the expenditure
serves a valid public purpose and that we approve it for payment. And
ratification can only occur under limited circumstances and can't be
used in the ordinary course of business in the manner in which the
Clerk is using it.
Which leads to my second concern and that is that the Clerk is
making these payments ahead of Board approval electronically. And
so essentially what has happened is the Clerk is not by statute allowed
to sign the checks, he's merely to attest to the checks, according to I
think it's 136. 1. And the Clerk has the Chair's signature stamp, which
gives him the ability to make payments without the Board even
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knowing it. Because he basically has his signature stamp and the
Chair's signature stamp. And that's problematic.
The bottom line is the Clerk should not be making any payments
ahead of the Board approving the finding of a valid public purpose and
saying he should disburse.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, I'm really talking about those
checks that the County Manager would approve, right --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: That's what I'm talking about.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- when we're not here. But we don't
have an ability to approve it because we're not present.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Exactly.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: So after the fact.
And yes, I think the Clerk should not hold up those checks --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- he should be paying them. But we
just have to make sure that then we state it's a valid public purpose so it
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Exactly.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- can never come back to bite us.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And you're 100 percent right. And
that's part two of what I wanted to address.
The -- where ratification is allowed is exactly under the
circumstances that you have described. You're absolutely correct.
And that is where, you know, the County Manager through our
ordinance, we have delegated that he review those expenditures in our
absence, make a determination that they serve a valid public purpose
so that the Clerk can go ahead and make payment and then we go
ahead and we ratify his declaration.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Right.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And that's how it should happen.
But I'm addressing all the -- you know, basically the whole story.
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So you're absolutely correct. I'm just addressing the first part of the
story which is where there is no ratification and yet he's making
payment, where he shouldn't be, ahead of our approval.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I don't know anything about that.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, he is. He's making
payments without our approval when it isn't, you know, an exigent
circumstances like when we're away on break and things like that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So you're right, Commissioner
Fiala.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. Now, going to that item,
it has nothing to do with what we went through. This is a statutory
requirement that the Clerk puts us in the record, these expenditures. It
has nothing to do with, Commissioner Fiala, what your concern is.
Those valid public purposes was through contracts, Crystal, correct?
MS. KINZEL: Correct.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And another thing, it has
nothing to do with P-Cards or things of monetary expenditures below
$50,000, the whole issue in the court, okay?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, what he's -- it is, it
absolutely has everything to do with it.
MS. KINZEL: Two separate reports. If I can clarify?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's Florida Statutes 136.01(1),
okay? And I'll read it to you, if you want me to.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, what I'm trying to do,
Commissioner Henning, and I understand exactly what you're saying
and I do agree. I just -- it's like almost --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: If you want to say these are
valid public purpose again, you can.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, that's exactly what I want to
do. I know it may be redundant, but I --
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's not redundant.
MR. OCHS: It's not redundant.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's not redundant. It's necessary.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Wait a minute.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I just feel that I would like it there
because I think it's important.
We've gotten to a point now where if we blink wrong we could go
to court. And so like in an abundance of caution I'm just wanting to
insert that just to make sure that it's there.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And the bottom line is Crystal just
made a statement they're two separate reports.
Over the summer, excuse me, Leo, were two reports issued or
was only one report included in the minutes?
MR. OCHS: Commissioner, there were two items filed under the
miscellaneous correspondence in absentia by the Clerk for certain
expenses below $50,000.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: In this item?
MR. OCHS: No, sir, separate items. This summer while you
were gone.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: But not this item that was pulled
off the agenda.
MR. OCHS: No, this item as I understand it, because there was
nothing submitted during an absentia for expenditures above $50,000
that I approved on the agenda, unlike what we've done in past years.
So I see that this report covers the period of July 1, which was actually
before your break, until August 26th. And I believe they're -- I'll ask
Ms. Kinzel, but I think these are expenditures above 50,000 or
inclusive of--
MS. KINZEL: No, the things that are on the agenda for 13.A that
Commissioner Fiala pulled, those are only to enter into the record of
the Board according to Statute 136.06, which it has nothing to do with
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the original approval, that's a different agenda item under the court
criteria that we sent you in absentia. This is just once the check is cut
to record into the minutes what the checks and ACH's were issued
based on the things that the Board had already approved. Those did
not come forward in absentia because they weren't required to make
the payment only required -- we only required that you approve them
on behalf of the Board and the Board subsequently ratifying. As you
said, we didn't hold up those payments.
But this is merely to enter into the record of the Board the
disbursements that have actually been made, according to 136.06.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, I just thought this was
ever so simple. I mean --
MR. OCHS: No, it's not.
MS. KINZEL: It is.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Wait a second.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- I'm not pointing a finger at
anybody --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hold on a second. Is Commissioner
Henning finished? Are you done, sir?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, I --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Because you had the floor and it kind of
got away from you.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I want to read from the Florida
Statutes.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Then we'll go to Commissioner Hiller.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, then we will go to
Commissioner Hiller.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: All right?
136.06, is draw funds from depositories, direct deposits, transfers
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of funds. All monies drawn from deposit qualified under the provision
of this chapter shall be upon the checks or warrants issued by the board
or officers drawn in the same. The check or warrant both, as to the
number and the amount persons whom draw -- and the purpose of the
drawing shall be recorded in the minutes of the Board of
Commissioners having ordered the same drawing (sic).
That's why these are on the agenda. And if you look historically,
that's why it's always been on the agenda.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's not been always on the agenda,
in the minutes.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Because Commissioner Fiala
said that I just want to make sure that they're approved. And I said
okay, if you want to make sure it's a valid public purpose again,
because we've already done that, then I'm supportive of that.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Excuse me, can I ask? Can I
speak?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's all I wanted.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: If Commissioner Henning is finished
with his remarks, you are next.
Are you done, Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, because this is going to be
another hour item, so I just wanted to read what's on --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay, so --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Okay, Commissioner Hiller, now.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Do you need a break? Because
this is going to be a while.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Leo, if I understand correctly, the
Clerk putting this list of disbursements into the minutes was never
done before. Is this the first time you've seen this or has this happened
in the past?
MR. OCHS: Ma'am, to my knowledge this is a newly formatted
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report. I believe what the Board is used to seeing that the Clerk
produced for every meeting was a disbursement report for a defined
period of time.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Correct.
MR. OCHS: And the action or the recommendation was that the
Board found those expenditures to have served a valid public purpose
and approved the release of those disbursements by the Clerk.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And where is --
MR. OCHS: You don't have that action item any longer is all I'm
pointing out.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right. And that's a problem.
Because the bottom line is -- and that's the point that Commissioner
Fiala is making. The Clerk has once again changed how he's doing
business and now he has decided to follow 136.6 but drop the
requirement of what I described earlier, and that's the point that I'm
going to. And let me explain.
The Clerk is required to pre-audit. He is required to show us
proof of pre-audit so we can rely on that pre-audit in order to make a
determination that the expenditure serves a valid public purpose and
we approve it for payment. And based on 136.06 that Commissioner
Henning just read, subsequent to that approval, once he makes a
disbursement the list of disbursed checks goes into the minutes and
records.
What he is now suddenly doing is dropping one and substituting it
with the other as if it satisfies what has been done up 'til now. And it
doesn't. And that's why Commissioner Fiala is bringing up what she's
bringing.
The finding of a valid public purpose, we have to have the list of
checks -- or the list of expenditures that have been pre-audited by the
Clerk provided to us at our board meetings. And we have to find a
valid public purpose by vote and we have to approve disbursement on
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those expenditures that have been pre-audited where we find a valid
public purpose. Then he disburses. Then he produces this
disbursement report that goes into the minutes and records according
to 136.06.
What is happening now basically drops everything that precedes
-- what should precede the entry of this disbursement report in the
record.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: It's very simple, ma'am. And let me
make one comment. Very simple. Here's what we need to do. I
believe that what we need to do is the Board of County
Commissioners, when we approve things, we need to follow the
purchasing ordinance that we've adopted.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Correct. So does the Clerk.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: So it's very simple. What we need to do
is we need to go through on a recurring agenda item that is on a
repeating schedule, we need to have an agenda item that approves all
those items that have been submitted for payment by staff, pre-audited
by the Clerk and serve a valid public purpose. And I'm not going to
worry. If the Clerk wants to go outside those lines I think the risk is
his alone, I think it's not ours. Because if our staff says it's ready and
he's pre-audited and he says it's ready, I'm not going to worry about it
any further.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We need him to attest to us that he
has pre-audited.
MS. KINZEL: Commissioner Nance, could I interject?
You have approved that on your agenda this morning under
consent. The correspondence is as it has been entered to the Board at
every meeting in absentia. This is your first meeting since. It has gone
directly to you with the entire list of things to be approved and it's item
16.I.1 under your correspondence. You were provided with all of the
expenditures; exactly what you're discussing that you should be
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provided.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: 16.I.1?
MS. KINZEL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know what, this is my subject,
so let me just say --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Go back to Commissioner Fiala. You
have the floor ma'am, go ahead.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
I said to Leo, I said, you know what, this doesn't say declare a
valid public purpose. He says, well, it doesn't really need to. I said,
but I would feel that that would be a good idea.
So then I called Crystal and I said Crystal, I think this needs to
say serves a valid public purpose. She says, it's already been done,
that's the way it comes to you, it's already done. And I said, but I want
to say it again, because I get a little bit nervous anymore about
anything that might be omitted. And Crystal said okay. I said, is it a
problem? No, not at all.
So that's why I brought it. I thought we would say okay, here we
go and we're done. And then all of a sudden this comes up on the
screen. I don't know where that came from. But if Crystal agreed that
it wasn't a problem, Leo agreed that it wasn't a problem and I certainly
didn't want to make it a problem at the end of the meeting myself.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'd like to make a motion --
MR. OCHS: Commissioner, if I might?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Sir, go ahead.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: This is a very significant issue.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Ochs?
MR. OCHS: The miscellaneous correspondence, if it's consistent
with the ones I received this summer, were a transmittal letter from the
Clerk's payable staff to the Clerk's minutes and records staff
referencing attachments that were spreadsheets of expenditures.
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: That had been paid?
MR. OCHS: Yes.
So neither of these, though, provide as they have in the past the
action item for the Board for their purchasing policy to declare that
these expenditures prior to payment is what your ordinance says --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Correct.
MR. OCHS: -- that the Board declare that they serve a valid
public purpose and that they're authorized for disbursement.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: And it doesn't --
MR. OCHS: That's all I'm pointing out. If the new format works
for everybody --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it doesn't.
MR. OCHS: -- fine.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Because it also doesn't tell us that
these expenditures have been pre-audited. This is a post-disbursement
report filed in the minutes and records pursuant to statute. And the
statute provides that this is a report that is supposed to be filed after the
disbursement is made.
What is now missing is that report that ought to come to us that
says these disbursements have been pre-audited and are ready for your
determination, Board, that these expenditures serve a valid public
purpose and you approve them for payment. There are two steps. And
this is -- and we can't say -- we can't say and it approves a valid public
purpose because we don't know that these expenditures have even
come to us.
You know, what it should say, it should be -- what it should say is
to record in the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners those
disbursements that have been made by the Clerk on behalf of the
Board which the Board approved on X date as serving a valid purpose
and approved for payment. And then it ties it in. And then we have
one report, here's all the pre-audit expenditures and then he goes ahead
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and makes payment and then he gives us proof that he paid it, which is
part two. And what we're missing is the first part.
MS. KINZEL: No, actually, Commissioner Hiller, the letter that
was submitted to you that you did vote on in the consent agenda this
morning reads specifically: Attached are the special interim reports as
provided for in Section 2.0 of the agreed upon order dated July 16th,
2015 by Judge James R. Shenko. Please place these reports, this
correspondence, in the miscellaneous correspondence section of the
next in absentia meeting or agenda of the Board of County
Commissioners. If you have any questions, please let us know.
So these were according to the stipulated order which said the
Clerk would pre-audit and then we would provide you with that list up
front for approval. That is what is on Item 16.I, that is what you
approved this morning.
Those items will now be paid and that disbursement report will
come back to you as an item on J under statute 136.06.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Which you --
MS. KINZEL: Both steps have been completed and satisfied
according to the court order.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Okay, but both steps have to be
completed prospectively. And we can't now just have this
disbursement report that comes in after the fact. We need a list that
comes from you first that shows us that you have pre-audited the
expenditures, that you have tested that the funding is in the budget, that
you've tested that the expenditure is made according to local or state
law and that you have tested that the expenditure was for a public
purpose.
MS. KINZEL: Commissioner, that is exactly what you have
gotten. You were not here in August. The County Manager in your
absence had the authority to do that. He did that. You have ratified his
actions today --
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COMMISSIONER HILLER: Did you, County Manager?
MS. KINZEL: The agreement was that we would pay based
upon that ratification.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: County Manager?
MS. KINZEL: You have received those items and now these are
the disbursements that are the disbursements that were issued
accordingly.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: County Manager?
MS. KINZEL: I apologize, it was very simple, Commissioner
Fiala. And yes --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: County Manager?
MS. KINZEL: -- that again.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: County Manager, did you receive
-- did you approve these expenditures on our behalf ahead of
disbursement at the request of the Clerk?
MR. OCHS: Yes, I approved them in accordance with the agreed
order of the Court and your in absentia resolution.
That is not my point. My point is if you look at the agreed order,
and I'll put it up on the visualizer, Ms. Kinzel's correct in part, of the
requirement for the pre-auditing. But when you look at -- these go in
sequential order, 2.A, B, C and D. Letter D reads that after the Clerk
does his pre-audit the Board approves the expenditures and finds a
valid public purpose.
All I'm saying is in the documents in your agenda where you used
to have an opportunity to make that declaration via the Clerk's
disbursement report, it no longer appears in that format.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It has to appear in that format.
MS. KINZEL: But Leo, the memorandum specifically references
in compliance with this order. You've just read the order which has
those items incorporated which in the correspondence tells you those
items are in compliance with the court order A, B, C. So you have in
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fact been given that information.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But it doesn't hurt anything to write
it again?
MS. KINZEL: No, it does not.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's what I'm saying, why not just
-- you know, in an abundance of caution.
MR. OCHS: Again, if I might make the point. You have a
lawfully enacted purchasing ordinance and it requires that before an
expenditure is released for payment you have to do two things: You
have to declare that it serves a valid public purpose and you have to
authorize the Clerk to disburse that payment.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But is it true or is it not true, is the
Clerk making payments ahead of our authorization?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's not part of--
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But I just want to know. Is the
Clerk --
MR. OCHS: My understanding is yes, that certain payments are
made prior to your authorization.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Well, that has to stop.
MS. KINZEL: And Commissioners, that's incorrect. I'll be glad
to get with the County Manager. If he has examples, I can ratify those.
If the Board has previously approved contracts, previously
approved those payments in accordance with those contracts, that's the
Board's approval for those items.
MR. OCHS: That's a new interpretation.
MS. KINZEL: Those new items that come forward --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, that's completely incorrect,
Crystal.
MS. KINZEL: It's always been --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It absolutely isn't. You don't -- it
has to come to us.
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MS. KINZEL: It has.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it hasn't. Our pre-approving a
contract does not give you the right to make payment on it. We have
no idea that you have completed your audit. We are the only ones that
will make the determination that the expenditure actually serves a valid
public purpose.
MS. KINZEL: So Commissioner, are you saying that you're
approving contractual agreements that do not serve a valid public
purpose?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No.
MS. KINZEL: On what basis are you originally approving them?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: We need to make sure that the
expenditure actually serves the valid public purpose that we intended it
to serve.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Mr. Chairman?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: This subject, it wasn't on here.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let's go to Commissioner Henning.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I seconded the motion, I think I
have the right to call the question.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: What was your motion?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I call the question.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: What was your motion?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Motion is to add for whatever
purpose.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That it serves a valid public purpose.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That it serves a valid public
purpose.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, that the Board has found a
valid public purpose and has approved these expenditures. This is a
disbursement report after the disbursement is made. So that
disbursement report should reference the Board meeting where the
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Board approved that these expenditures served a valid public purpose
and that the Board approved them for payment.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Who's the motion maker?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Commissioner Fiala.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala, tell us what your
motion is.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: My motion is that this report should
say that --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: That the Board finds that this
serves a valid --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: We declare that this serves a valid
public purpose.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, we have to do that before the
disbursement was made.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, but you know what, that --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: She just wants redundancy, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: These are things that we have --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But just say that the Board found --
that this report reflects disbursements that the Board deemed to serve a
valid public purpose on X date, which is ahead --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: But the thing is, there are times
when we -- our public policy is that the County Manager will deem
that as a valid public purpose until we come back from vacation or
from holiday. So I don't want to hold any payments up.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But this has nothing to do with it.
These payments are already made. This is a report of payments
already made.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I call the motion.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. The motion is to add to this
report that we declare a valid public purpose.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I seconded it.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Further discussion.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, don't say that.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: No, there's not. I called it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All those in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any opposed?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: 4-1 with Commissioner Hiller in dissent.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I think this is another issue that
can be discussed between the Clerk's Office and the County Manager's
Office so we can get --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Part of the greater disagreement, I'm
afraid.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, I think it could be
discussed.
MR. OCHS: It's a requirement of your ordinance, it's not my
requirement.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: You guys argue it later on.
What's the next item?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know, the reason is people are a
little nervous. I -- I shouldn't say anybody else but me. I'm a little bit
nervous if everything doesn't meet absolutely the letter of the law and
then goes in over abundance with it to make sure that the Clerk
approves whatever we're doing. Because we've had checks not going
out to people, and we've had things not being paid because we didn't
cross an I or -- dot an I or cross a T. So I'm just trying to be in an
abundance of caution making sure everything is taken care of. That's
all my purpose was.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Ochs, what do we have remaining?
Item #15
STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
MR. OCHS: You have Item 15, staff and commission general
communications.
Mr. Chairman, just a couple of reminders from my end, this
Thursday you have a legislative workshop at 9:00 a.m. in this room,
and then that same evening at 5:05 is your first of two statutorily
required public hearings to adopt your FY 2016 budget.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: That's on September 10?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: September 10?
MR. OCHS: Yes, both meetings.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: We've got a legislative priorities
workshop and then a 5:05 budget meeting?
MR. OCHS: That's correct, sir.
And then I put up on the visualizer the upcoming workshop topics
for October and November to remind the Board.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Our October 6th workshop is going to be
very interesting.
MR. OCHS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, it will be.
MR. OCHS: That's all I have, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right. Mr. Klatzkow, anything?
MR. KLATZKOW: Oh, no.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Mr. Klatzkow has gone mute on us.
Deputy Manager Casalanguida?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: No, sir.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Henning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah. Has the county adopted
the Blue Zone policies?
MR. OCHS: No, sir.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Have you adopted it through
your staff?
MR. OCHS: We have members of our staff participating on
working groups and committees to evaluate the proposals and to see
what elements of the program -- the county, by its currents or prior
actions, is already in compliance with elements of the Blue Zone plan.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay. Because I remember, and
I saw it on today's agenda, these P-cards that we already approved
Dunkin Donuts.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Dunkin Donuts.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I can't believe it.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And some other fast food places.
I mean, I'm hearing -- I saw an editorial that the county -- Collier
County government has adopted the Blue Zone. So that's -- I was just
wondering if we're going to get any more purchasing of donuts. But
since we haven't adopted it, it's still okay.
MR. OCHS: Donuts are still on the menu, sir. Yes, sir, it's not a
policy.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: If Dunkin Donuts is not okay in the Blue
Zone, you're going to see that Blue Zone disappear. I'm going to put
500 on Dunkin Donuts.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: The next thing is, I'm going to
be a little bit late. I have another meeting. I might be a little bit late on
Thursday, County Manager.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: To which one?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: In the morning?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yeah, so remind these guys,
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because they're going to forget.
MR. OCHS: For the morning meeting, sir?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: For which meeting?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Workshop, I mean.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Workshop on legislative priorities.
We'll count on your guidance when you arrive, sir.
Commissioner Hiller?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I'm not sure if you want it or not.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I hope you all had a great summer.
Everybody seems very rested.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Did you go to Boston? I haven't heard a
word about it so I was wondering --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I have not. I have not.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: You did not?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: But I plan on going in the fall,
because I miss it. So I will go back. And the Pats are playing the
Steelers on Thursday night. So I'm just saying.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I haven't heard anything. The only thing
I heard this morning was when somebody said Commissioner Hiller, I
should have known. So that's all the gossip I --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, it was a really great summer
and I enjoyed myself by having a great deal of time with my children.
And that's what I wanted to do. And it was great. So it was a good
break for everybody.
And I think it was well deserved and well needed by staff and
members of the board alike. So I'm very happy to be back and I think
we have a great year ahead of us.
And like I said, this is the first year that the Board of County
Commissioners has been dominated by women. And it will bring out
the softer side in Commissioner Henning. And Commissioner Nance
already had a softer side because he has a great wife that has him
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perfectly trained. So he so knows how to handle us. Commissioner
Henning wanting, but always room for improvement and we're always
there to support you any way we can.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Well, since my name was
brought up, I'm not going to move to the left. I'm always going to be
conservative on my thoughts, so --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, Commissioner Henning, as far as
blue things, I think blue men are the only thing that exists, so we've got
the edge on them for that for the Blue Zone. We can be the blue men,
but these women, I don't know if there's a feminine equivalent of that.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: And I just don't appreciate these
sexist remarks.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I don't appreciate the sexist
remarks that you've hurled against me, but you know what --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: He resembles that remark, okay.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: -- I let it slide.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller, anything else?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No. I'm just really happy and I
think we have a great opportunity ahead of us to do a lot of good things
together as a Board, and I look forward to working with everybody,
and I hope this year will be successful and that we'll benefit the
community as best we can. I'm really looking forward to it.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: All right, great. I just have a couple of
things.
My thanks to all of you for -- I think we had a difficult meeting
and I think we worked through some very important things that
certainly we'll have to revisit.
I wanted to mention a couple of things. Mrs. Nance brought some
-- insisted that we bring some North Carolina Macintosh apples. I
think there's a few of them left in the kitchen. So please take those and
enjoy them. They're really, really nice.
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I believe that there's a community housing forum October the 1st
that's being -- I think it's a community housing -- described as a
community housing forum. It involves the United Way and the
Greater Naples Chamber of Commerce. I believe Steve Carrell is
going to bring you some information. There's an opportunity for
members of our legislative delegation to participate, there's an
opportunity for commissioners to participate to the extent they want to,
and I think he'll get you that information so you can see if you want to
come out and support the discussion that will be coming forth. So we
thank Steve for working on that.
I don't have anything else today.
Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, this is just food for thought for
next year, so it's way early. And that is I thought that the summer
recess was very long. I was wondering if we might think about going
back to the way we used to do it where we met the last Tuesday in July
rather than the first Tuesday in July. And that would kind of break it
up a little bit. And not only that but, you know, we could keep in touch
with what was going on. But it might not be popular. I'm just
throwing that out for this minute. Not for discussion now.
Because next we talked about Blue Zone and we talked about
blue men. Well, tomorrow morning I'm having blue light, and that's
the truth, right after the pickle ball.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You are?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah. Right after pickle ball I'm
going in to have the blue light. That's for pre-cancer treatment under
your skin. So they burn your skin.
So if I get here tomorrow -- I mean, if I get here Thursday, I'm
going to be looking rather red-faced. So I either have to wear a veil
over my face or do it by phone. Depends on which you want to put up
with.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Do it by phone.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, here's what you do. Keep
working on the light. Because with me they start out with stuff this
size and they go up.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Speaking of blue things.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Clearly, do it by phone.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Question. I'm posing a question.
Do we want to allow dock extensions and drainage easements such as
Henderson and Haldeman Creek?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We do?
COMMISSIONER HENNING: If we're talking about any
particular one, you have to look at navigability. Henderson Creek is
not only a drainage easement, but if you look at the plat, it also says
navigation, okay?
I know there's a lot of concern. That's going to go to the Planning
Commission for that dock extension. If the Planning Commission
does not allow it, the petitioner has a right to come to the Board of
Commissioners. I can tell you I'm very concerned about that particular
dock extension because of the width. I mean, I grew up on Henderson
Creek. I know that area.
MR. KLATZKOW: Commissioners, this item is coming before
you.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: It's coming before us?
MR. KLATZKOW: The Planning Commission already heard
this.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: Okay.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But I mean in general, can we
bring something back? Would you agree we bring something back to
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discuss whether we indeed even want to put 20 feet of dock into a
drainage easement?
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Hang on a second. Isn't this an ex
parte?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yeah, this is an item --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: So this isn't appropriate.
MR. KLATZKOW: This conversation probably shouldn't be
happening.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Right. This isn't appropriate.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Let's take it up when it gets on the
agenda, Commissioners, so that we don't get -- you know, this is not an
advertised discussion, so let's take the County Attorney's advice.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Have stormwater management --
because you're talking about --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's -- stormwater, yeah.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Have they ever addressed it?
MR. KLATZKOW: Commissioner, again, this item is coming
before you.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. So the final one is we
know that Florida Fish and Wildlife are now issuing permits to shoot
bears.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. And we know that people
can shoot bears on their property.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And we know that people
shooting bears on their property can't control where those bullets go.
COMMISSIONER HENNING: I can.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I've heard some complaints from
folks in the Estates that they're very concerned about shooting --
months and months ago --
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, it is --
COMMISSIONER HENNING: They need to call their
Commissioner.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So maybe we can get Florida Fish
and Wildlife in this chamber to give the folks that have these permits
to kill these bears some ideas about how to control the bear population
without killing the bears or at least maintaining and giving some
guidelines. Because it is potentially a serious situation.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Ma'am, they've already opined on that. I
will tell you that discharge of firearms has been preempted by the
legislature of the State of Florida. It is a conversation I have with my
constituents all the time. And I just have to send them the documents
that explain what our position is and the fact that we can't control that.
Now that doesn't mean that the Collier County Sheriffs Office
doesn't go to them, go to the people discharging firearms and counsel
them to be judicious and, you know, make sure that you're not shooting
something that you're not aiming at, whatever good that does. But we
can't do anything other than that.
I know there's a mixed message on the bears. I think it's going to
continue to be a problem and --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So you don't see any benefit in
bringing Florida Fish and Wildlife in?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Well, ma'am, honestly, they're shooting
at stuff a lot smaller than bears. I mean, bears are pretty big. I mean,
you'd be surprised. We have trouble with people shooting at like
dragon flies and stuff. That's a bigger issue.
So it's District 5, ma'am, and my apologies. We like firearms, I'm
afraid.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm glad you brought your sense of
humor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's all I have.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Anything else?
Ms. Kinzel, any final comments? You're the last one, ma'am.
MS. KINZEL: Oh, no thank you, sir. Have a great evening.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, I'm sorry to delay this for one more
second, but on the topic you brought up in your comments about the
community housing forum on October 1st --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Yes, sir.
MR. OCHS: -- there's a segment of the program set up for panel
discussion among various local elected officials that talks for 20
minutes about challenges and opportunities on this subject. They're
looking for a participant from our Board, so we were wondering if
anyone on Board may have an interest in --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: I have a commitment, a very, very early
morning commitment that I can't get out of. But I have promised to
Mr. Carnell that I will return as fast as I can. I would certainly
encourage others. I know there's a lot of interest amongst all of the
other Commissioners here about this issue. And housing, you know,
workforce housing and affordable housing continues to be a topic of
great import for the county.
So I would encourage you to please consider, you know, what
Mr. Carnell is going to send to you. And if--
COMMISSIONER FIALA: When is that?
CHAIRMAN NANCE: -- you can participate -- it is October the
1st, beginning fairly early in the morning. 8:00, sir?
MR. OCHS: We need one member of the Board to sit on that
panel, along with Senator Richter and Representative Passidomo and
Mayor Sorey.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You want a Board member who --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: For what?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: -- is being inundated with it, or --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Community workforce housing forum
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with -- from the perspective of government.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: I'll go there if you want. What day
is that?
MR. CARNELL: It's Thursday, October 1st, ma'am. 8:00 a.m. is
when it begins and that's when --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Everyone's welcome to go.
MR. CARNELL: I'll send you a draft agenda. We'll have a little
more clarified agenda later in the week.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You've got somebody there. You
might have five people there.
COMMISSIONER NANCE: Yeah, we'll be there. I'll be there in
support as soon as I can get there.
MR. OCHS: I just need --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Is it here?
MR. CARNELL: Well, location is to be determined. We're
identifying that right now.
MR. OCHS: I need one of you to volunteer.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Hiller has volunteered.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, I have.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Commissioner Fiala and Commissioner
Hiller have volunteered.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: No, let Commissioner Fiala do it. I
don't have a problem with that.
CHAIRMAN NANCE: You want to do it? Okay, Commissioner
Fiala --
COMMISSIONER HILLER: It's very important. Because she
has a lot of that in her district and she can best advocate for --
CHAIRMAN NANCE: She will be our officially appointed
Commissioner designee.
COMMISSIONER HILLER: Yeah, that's really a good one.
MR. OCHS: Thank you, Commissioner.
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CHAIRMAN NANCE: Any other business, Commissioners?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN NANCE: Hearing none, for the good of the
county, we'll stand adjourned until next time.
**** Commissioner Henning moved, seconded by Commissioner
Fiala and carried unanimously that the following items under the
Consent and Summary Agendas be approved and/or adopted ****
Item #16A1
CLERK OF COURTS RELEASE OF A PERFORMANCE BOND
IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,981,600 WHICH WAS POSTED AS A
DEVELOPMENT GUARANTY FOR AN EARLY WORK
AUTHORIZATION (EWA) (PL20120001253) FOR WORK
ASSOCIATED WITH ESPLANADE GOLF AND COUNTRY
CLUB — POSTED FOR A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT WITHIN THE
MIRASOL PUD
Item #16A2
CLERK OF COURTS RELEASE OF A PERFORMANCE BOND
IN THE AMOUNT OF $419,280 THAT WAS POSTED AS A
GUARANTY FOR EXCAVATION PERMIT NUMBER 60.082-1,
(PL20120002539) FOR WORK ASSOCIATED WITH
ESPLANADE AT HACIENDA LAKES, PHASE ONE — THE
DEVELOPER HAS FULFILLED HIS COMMITMENTS WITH
RESPECT TO THE SECURITY
Item #16A3
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CLERK OF COURTS RELEASE OF A PERFORMANCE BOND
IN THE AMOUNT OF $430,080 ON BEHALF OF BARRON
COLLIER INVESTMENTS, LTD., PURSUANT TO APPLICABLE
PROVISIONS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESTORATION
AND MAINTENANCE (ERM) TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT
RIGHTS (TDR) BONUS CREDIT REQUIREMENTS
ASSOCIATED TO PL20130001998 — A SECURITY THAT WAS
REQUIRED UNTIL THE DEVELOPER MET CRITERIA
OUTLINED IN THE RESTORATION MAINTENANCE PLAN
Item #16A4
CLERK OF COURTS RELEASE OF A PERFORMANCE BOND
IN THE AMOUNT OF $795,600 WHICH WAS POSTED AS A
GUARANTY FOR EXCAVATION PERMIT NUMBER 59.375-4,
PL20130002036 FOR WORK ASSOCIATED WITH OYSTER
HARBOR AT FIDDLER'S CREEK, PHASE ONE
Item #16A5
CLERK OF COURTS RELEASE OF A CASH BOND IN THE
AMOUNT OF $16,000 WHICH WAS POSTED AS A .
DEVELOPMENT GUARANTY FOR AN EARLY WORK
AUTHORIZATION (EWA) (PL20150000956) FOR WORK
ASSOCIATED WITH THE MERCEDES-BENZ NORTH NAPLES
— POSTED FOR CLEARING ASSOCIATED WITH THE EWA
Item #16A6
RESOLUTION 2015-152 (PHASE 3F);
RESOLUTION 2015-153 (PHASE 3G);
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RESOLUTION 2015-154 (PHASE 3H);
RESOLUTION 2015-155 (PHASE 3K): FINAL APPROVAL OF
LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FINAL PLATS OF
REFLECTION LAKES AT NAPLES PHASE 3F (AR-7826) PHASE
3G (AR-7776), PHASE 3H (AR-7777) AND PHASE 3K (AR-7827)
AND AUTHORIZING RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE
SECURITIES — IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MAINTAINED BY
THE HOME OWNER'S ASSOCIATION FOR IMPROVEMENTS
WITHIN THE WALNUT LAKES PUD
Item #16A7
RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF WINDING CYPRESS UNIT
3, (APPLICATION NUMBER PL20150000444) APPROVAL OF
THE STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION AND
MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND APPROVAL OF THE
AMOUNT OF THE PERFORMANCE SECURITY —
W/STIPULATIONS
Item #16A8
RECORDING THE MINOR FINAL PLAT OF SPANISH OAKS,
APPLICATION NUMBER 2015000859 — FOR PROPERTY ON
SPANISH OAKS LANE THAT IS NOT WITHIN A PUD
Item #16A9
RECORDING THE MINOR FINAL PLAT OF ARTESIA NAPLES,
PHASE 3A, APPLICATION NUMBER PL20150001403 — FOR
PROPERTY OFF OF LUCENA LANE SOUTH THAT IS NOT
PART OF THE ARTESIA NAPLES, PHASE 3A PLAT
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Item #16A10
RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF WING SOUTH AIRPARK
EXTENSION, (APPLICATION NUMBER PL20150001055)
APPROVAL OF THE STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION
AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND APPROVAL OF THE
AMOUNT OF THE PERFORMANCE SECURITY —
W/STIPULATIONS
Item #16A1 1
RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF ESTILO ACRES,
(APPLICATION NUMBER PL20130002583) APPROVAL OF THE
STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT AND APPROVAL OF THE AMOUNT OF THE
PERFORMANCE SECURITY — A PROJECT LOCATED ON
LORDS WAY OFF OF COLLIER BOULEVARD
Item #16Al2
RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF MONTIANO,
(APPLICATION NUMBER PL20140002750) APPROVAL OF THE
STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT AND APPROVAL OF THE AMOUNT OF THE
PERFORMANCE SECURITY — A PROJECT WITHIN THE
WENTWORTH ESTATES PUD
Item #16A13
RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF ESPLANADE GOLF AND
COUNTRY CLUB OF NAPLES BLOCKS "D", "F" AND "H",
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(APPLICATION NUMBER PL20150001102) APPROVAL OF THE
STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT AND APPROVAL OF THE AMOUNT OF THE
PERFORMANCE SECURITY — WITHIN THE MIRASOL RPUD
Item #16A14
RECORDING THE FINAL PLAT OF ISLES OF COLLIER
PRESERVE PHASE 6, (APPLICATION NUMBER
PL20150000492) APPROVAL OF THE STANDARD FORM
CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT AND
APPROVAL OF THE AMOUNT OF THE PERFORMANCE
SECURITY — A PROJECT WITHIN THE SABAL BAY PUD
Item #16A15
RESOLUTION 2015-156 (RIVERWOOD EAST);
RESOLUTION 2015-157 (RIVERWOOD EAST UNIT NO. 2);
RESOLUTION 2015-158 (RIVERWOOD EAST UNIT NO. 3);
RESOLUTION 2015-159 (RIVER WOOD UNIT NO. 2):
FINAL APPROVAL OF PUBLIC ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE
IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FINAL PLATS OF RIVERWOOD
EAST, PLAT BOOK 13, PAGE 13; RIVERWOOD EAST UNIT
NO. 2, PLAT BOOK 13 PAGE 112; RIVERWOOD EAST UNIT
NO. 3, PLAT BOOK 14, PAGE 90; RIVERWOOD UNIT TWO,
PLAT BOOK 10, PAGE 90 AND ACCEPTING MAINTENANCE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE
PUBLIC'S RIGHT-OF-WAY — THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND
LAKES OUTSIDE THE PUBLIC ROAD RIGHTS-OF-WAY WILL
BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED BY RIVERWOOD ESTATES
HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, INC.
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Item #16A16
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF PRIVATELY OWNED WATER AND
SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR ROYAL PALM ACADEMY,
PL20140000390, AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY
MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO RELEASE THE UTILITIES
PERFORMANCE SECURITY (UPS) AND FINAL OBLIGATION
BOND IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $1 0,748.67 TO THE
PROJECT ENGINEER OR DEVELOPER'S DESIGNATED
AGENT — STAFF'S FINAL INSPECTION ON APRIL 14, 2015
FOUND THE FACILITIES ACCEPTABLE
Item #16A17
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF WATER AND SEWER UTILITY
FACILITIES FOR VERCELLI PHASE 2, PL20120002526, AND
TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER, OR HIS
DESIGNEE, TO RELEASE THE FINAL OBLIGATION BOND IN
THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $4,000 TO THE PROJECT
ENGINEER OR DEVELOPER'S DESIGNATED AGENT — A
PROJECT WITHIN WENTWORTH ESTATES
Item #16A18
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF PRIVATELY OWNED WATER AND
SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR TREVISO BAY- DI NAPOLI,
PL20120002541, AND TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY
MANAGER, OR HIS DESIGNEE, TO RELEASE THE UTILITIES
PERFORMANCE SECURITY (UPS) AND FINAL OBLIGATION
BOND IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $10,673.47 TO THE
PROJECT ENGINEER OR DEVELOPER'S DESIGNATED
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AGENT — A FINAL INSPECTION BY STAFF ON MAY 28, 2015
FOUND THE FACILITIES ACCEPTABLE
Item #16A19
CHAIRMAN TO SIGN TWO UTILITY FACILITIES QUIT-
CLAIM DEEDS AND BILL OF SALE BETWEEN COLLIER
COUNTY AND WENTWORTH ESTATES COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT (CDD), RECONVEYING ALL
IRRIGATION UTILITY FACILITIES THAT WERE
ERRONEOUSLY CONVEYED TO THE COUNTY ASSOCIATED
WITH DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AT VERCELLI,
PL20130002056, AND LIPARI-PONZIANE, PL20130002052,
BACK TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT —
QUIT-CLAIM DEEDS WILL RECONVEY THE PRIVATE
IRRIGATION FACILITIES BACK TO THE CDD TO ALLOW
WATER AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR BOTH
PROJECTS TO GO TO THE BOARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL
AND ACCEPTANCE DURING A LATER PUBLIC HEARING
Item #16A20
A LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN
COLLIER COUNTY AND MARABELLA ISLES
HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, INC. FOR LANDSCAPE
IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE LIVINGSTON ROAD PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAY — THE HOA WILL INSTALL
IMPROVEMENTS ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND
IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MAINTAINANCE
Item #16A21
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A LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN
COLLIER COUNTY AND THE SIENNA RESERVE
HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, INC. FOR LANDSCAPE
PLANTING WITHIN THE LIVINGSTON ROAD RIGHT-OF-
WAY — THE HOA WILL INSTALL IMPROVEMENTS
ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR ALL MAINTAINANCE
Item #16A22
A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $147,071,
TRANSFERING FUNDS FROM WATER POLLUTION
CONTROL FUND 114 RESERVES TO FY15 OPERATING
EXPENSE BUDGET FUND 114 TO PURCHASE A
(REPLACEMENT) INDUCTIVELY COUPLED PLASMA MASS
SPECTROMETER — QUOTES WERE RECEIVED FROM FISHER
SCIENTIFIC; PERKINELMER AND AGILENT TECHNOLOGIES
INC., WITH FISHER SCIENTIFIC THE LEAST EXPENSIVE;
THE PURCHASE WILL BE MADE USING STATE CONTRACT
#4112000-15-ACS
Item #16A23
RELEASE OF (2) CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS WITH A
COMBINED ACCRUED VALUE OF $185,183.11 FOR
PAYMENT OF $2,283. 11, IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
ENTITLED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. JERRY
DELASHMENT ET UX., CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE CASE NOS. CESD20130003907 AND
CEPM20130003856, RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1391 13TH AVENUE N., COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA — THE
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RESULT OF A SHED WITH AN EXPIRED PERMIT, BROKEN
WINDOWS, NO CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION AND A
SCREEN ENCLOSURE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS
MISSING A DOOR BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE
FOLLOWING FORECLOSURE AND ACQUIRED BY DLB
INVESTMENTS, INC., VIA SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED
RECORDED APRIL 24, 2015
Item #16A24
RELEASE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN WITH AN
ACCRUED VALUE OF $24,515. 18 FOR PAYMENT OF $565.18,
IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ENTITLED BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. GREGORY WESTGATE,
CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CASE NO.
CEROW20120004308, RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 129 4TH STREET, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA —
RELATED TO A DRAINAGE SWALE ON THE PROPERTY
THAT WAS FILLED WITHOUT OBTAINING THE REQUIRED
PERMIT; ONCE THE HOMEOWNER BECAME AWARE OF
THE VIOLATION IT WAS CORRECTED AND THE PROPERTY
WAS BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE MARCH 4, 2014
Item #16A25
RELEASE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN WITH AN
ACCRUED VALUE OF $96,979.28 FOR PAYMENT OF $679.28,
IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ENTITLED BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. HECTOR OROSO AND JACQUI
HAMILTON, CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
CASE NO. CEPM20130011657, RELATING TO PROPERTY
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LOCATED AT 3043 44TH ST. SW, COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA — FOR VIOLATIONS RELATED TO ROOF DAMAGE
ON A VACANT FORECLOSED HOME ACQUIRED BY A NEW
OWNER VIA CERTIFICATE OF TITLE ON MAY 6, 2015 WITH
COMPLIANCE CONFIRMED JUNE 24, 2015
Item #16A26
RELEASE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN WITH AN
ACCRUED VALUE OF $11,739.49 FOR PAYMENT OF
$1,439.49, IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ENTITLED
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. BRYON
GOLDIZEN AND STEPHANIE GOLDIZEN, CODE
ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE CASE NO.
CEPM20090015934, RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT
3036 OLDE COVE WAY, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA — FOR
FINES SURROUNDING AN UNMAINTAINED POOL ON THE
PROPERTY BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE MARCH 9, 2010
AND FOLLOWING FORECLOSURE WAS ACQUIRED BY
JADA PROPERTIES & INVESTMENT GROUP, LLC BY
CERTIFICATE OF TITLE ON DECEMBER18, 2013
Item #16A27
RELEASE OF TWO (2) CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS WITH
A COMBINED ACCRUED VALUE OF $570,563.75 FOR
PAYMENT OF $1,013.75, IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS
ENTITLED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V.
TERESITA PINO, CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
MAGISTRATE CASE NO. CEPM20130008117 AND CODE
ENFORCEMENT BOARD CASE NO. CEPM20140000021,
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RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4261 1ST AVENUE
SW, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA — THE RESULT OF AN
UNMAINTAINED POOL AND TORN SCREENS ON THE
PROPERTY THAT FOLLOWING FORECLOSURE WAS
ACQUIRED BY BK CAPITAL, LLC BY SPECIAL WARRANTY
DEED RECORDED JUNE 24, 2015
Item #16A28
RELEASE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN WITH AN
ACCRUED VALUE OF $80,780 FOR PAYMENT OF $530, IN
CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ENTITLED BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. VP OFFICE HOLDINGS, LLC,
CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD CASE NO. CESD20120000116,
RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2244 VENETIAN
COURT (FOLIO NO. 00237600008), COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA — A VIOLATION AND FINES FOR FAILING TO
INSTALL A STREETLIGHT THAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE
PUD; THE PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED BY VENETIAN
PLAZA OFFICE PARK MASTER BY WARRANTY DEED
SEPTEMBER 11, 2012 AND DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY
CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND CONTROL THE OWNER
ACCRUED ADDITIONAL FINES ABATING THE VIOLATION
Item #16A29
RELEASE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN WITH AN
ACCRUED VALUE OF $247,080.57 FOR PAYMENT OF $530.57,
IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION ENTITLED BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. MAYKOL CALDERON, CODE
ENFORCEMENT BOARD CASE NO. CESD20110009230,
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RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1281 27TH STREET
SW, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA — AS DETAILED IN THE
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Item #16A30
RELEASING A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN & DUPLICATE
LIEN WITH AN ACCRUED VALUE OF $161,512.29 FOR A
PAYMENT OF $1,112.29, IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION
ENTITLED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. JORGE
HERNANDEZ, CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
CASE NO. CESD20110001314, RELATING TO PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 185 31ST STREET NW, COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA — VIOLATIONS SURROUNDING THREE (3)
UNPERMITTED SHEDS ON THE PROPERTY ACQUIRED BY
WARRANTY DEED JULY 24, 2013 BY NEW OWNERS WHO
WERE UNAWARE OF THE ISSUES AND WHO HAVE
EXPERIENCED FINANCIAL HARDSHIP BRINGING THE
PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE; A DUPLICATE LIEN IS
BEING RELEASED BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL WAS
ERRONEOUSLY RECORDED TWICE
Item #16A31
RELEASE OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN WITH AN
ACCRUED VALUE OF $37,500, IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
ACTION ENTITLED BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
V. J. PEACEFUL, L.C., CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD CASE
NO. CESD20090012961, RELATING TO PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 7770 PRESERVE LANE, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA — AS
DETAILED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
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Item #16A32
CONTRACT #15-6445 IN THE AMOUNT OF $327,143
AWARDED TO TRAFFIC CONTROL PRODUCTS OF FLORIDA
FOR THE "ADVANCE INTERSECTION SIGNS" PROJECT
PURSUANT TO A BOARD APPROVED LOCAL AGENCY
PROGRAM AGREEMENT (LAP) WITH THE FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, (PROJECT #33335) —
FDOT LAP AGREEMENT FM 430875-1 REIMBURSES THE
COUNTY UP TO $400,000 FOR THIS PROJECT
Item #16A33
AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT AUTHORIZING PURCHASE
AND ACCEPTANCE OF A DRAINAGE, ACCESS, AND
MAINTENANCE EASEMENT (PARCEL 259DAME) AND A
TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT (PARCEL
259TCE) REQUIRED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF STORM
WATER IMPROVEMENTS KNOWN AS THE WING SOUTH
SEGMENT OF LELY AREA STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT NO. 51101 (ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACT: $505,150)
Item #16A34
FINAL ACCEPTANCE AND ACCEPTING UNCONDITIONAL
CONVEYANCE OF POTABLE WATER UTILITY FACILITIES
FOR PIACERE (LOT 18), PL20130001695, AND AUTHORIZE
THE COUNTY MANAGER, OR HIS DESIGNEE, TO RELEASE
THE UTILITIES PERFORMANCE SECURITY (UPS) AND
FINAL OBLIGATION BOND IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
$5,193.88 TO THE PROJECT ENGINEER OR DEVELOPER'S
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DESIGNATED AGENT — IN THE TREVISO BAY COMMUNITY
Item #16A35
RESOLUTION 2015-160: FINAL APPROVAL OF PRIVATE
ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE
FINAL PLAT OF COPPER COVE PRESERVE (APPLICATION
NUMBER AR-7528) WITH ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE
IMPROVEMENTS PRIVATELY MAINTAINED AND
AUTHORIZING RELEASE OF THE MAINTENANCE SECURITY
Item #16A36
RESOLUTION 2015-161 : A LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM
AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION IN WHICH COLLIER COUNTY WOULD
BE REIMBURSED UP TO $331,363 FOR CONSTRUCTION AND
CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING INSPECTION OF
INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON GOLDEN GATE
PARKWAY AT LIVINGSTON ROAD AND TO AUTHORIZE
THE NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENT (PROJECT NO.
33431) — FDOT WILL REIMBURSE THE COUNTY UP TO
$272,184 FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND UP TO $59,179
FOR ENGINEERING INSPECTIONS
Item #16A37
RESOLUTION 2015-162: DELEGATING THE COUNTY
MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE
EXCAVATION, EARLY WORK AUTHORIZATION, AND SITE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS ON
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BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS —
AS DETAILED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Item #16A38
CONTRACT #12-5901 CHANGE ORDER NO. 4 IN THE
AMOUNT OF $259,946.47, WITH ATKINS NORTH AMERICA,
INC., FOR CONSTRUCTION, ENGINEERING AND
INSPECTION (CEI SERVICES) FORUS41 & SR/CR951
INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND SR951 3R
IMPROVEMENTS (PROJECT NO. 60116) — ADDITIONAL
FUNDS ARE REQUIRED TO FINALIZE CONSTRUCTION
OVERSIGHT, CERTIFY THE PROJECT AND SUBMIT
RECORDS TO FDOT FOR FINAL REIMBURSEMENT OF THE
PROJECT SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION NOVEMBER, 2015
Item #16A39
RECORDING THE MINOR FINAL PLAT OF DEL WEBB
NAPLES PARCEL 102, PHASE 1 REPLAT, APPLICATION
NUMBER PL20150001299 — LOCATED WITHIN AVE MARIA
Item #16A40
FINAL ACCEPTANCE AND UNCONDITIONAL CONVEYANCE
OF THE WATER AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR
MARBELLA LAKES, PL20110001959, AND AUTHORIZE THE
COUNTY MANAGER, OR HIS DESIGNEE TO RELEASE FINAL
ACCEPTANCE OBLIGATIONS BOND IN A TOTAL AMOUNT
OF $4,000 TO THE PROJECT ENGINEER OR DEVELOPER'S
DESIGNATED AGENT — STAFF FOUND THE FACILITIES
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ACCEPTABLE DURING A FINAL INSPECTION MAY 28, 2014
Item #16A41
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF PRIVATELY OWNED WATER AND
SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR GREENLINKS GOLF
VILLAS (A/K/A DOUBLE TEE GOLF RESORT), PL20110002546,
AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY MANAGER, OR HIS
DESIGNEE, TO RELEASE THE UTILITIES PERFORMANCE
SECURITY (UPS) IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF $30,898.20 TO
THE PROJECT ENGINEER OR DEVELOPER'S DESIGNATED
AGENT — LOCATED IN THE LELY RESORT COMMUNITY
Item #16A42
EASEMENT AGREEMENTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF A ROAD
RIGHT-OF-WAY, DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT
(PARCEL 117RDUE) AND A TEMPORARY BRIDGE
CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT (PARCEL 117TCE) REQUIRED
FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A REPLACEMENT BRIDGE ON
WHITE BOULEVARD OVER THE CYPRESS CANAL;
TRANSPORTATION BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM
PROJECT NO. 66066 (ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACT: $6,530)
Item #16A43
RESOLUTION 2015-163: FINAL APPROVAL OF PUBLIC
ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE
PORTIONS OF ROADWAYS DESCRIBED IN QUIT CLAIM
DEEDS RECORDED IN OR BOOK 1099, PAGE 365 AND OR
BOOK 1099, PAGE 366 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS AND
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ACCEPTING MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY FOR
IMPROVEMENTS
Item #16A44
CONTRACT #15-6452 AWARDED TO LAGO CONSULTING &
SERVICES, LLC FOR SURFACE WATER & GROUNDWATER
MANAGEMENT, FOR THE PROTECTION OF EXISTING
WELLFIELDS AND FUTURE GROUNDWATER RESOURCES
IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $216,892.50
Item #16A45
AFTER-THE-FACT APPROVAL TO SUBMIT A 2015
REGIONAL COASTAL RESILIENCE GRANT APPLICATION
SPONSORED BY THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND
ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION (NOAA) IN THE AMOUNT
OF $1,373,734 FOR PHASE 1 OF THE NAPLES PARK AREA
STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT — A 7-YEAR
PHASED PROJECT THAT INCLUDES 21 STREETS WITH
BOUNDARIES ON THE NORTH BY 111TH AVENUE NORTH,
TAMIAMI TRAIL NORTH (US41) ON THE EAST,
VANDERBILT DRIVE ON THE WEST, AND 91ST AVENUE
NORTH ON THE SOUTH
Item #16A46
BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO RECOGNIZE REVENUE AND
TRANSFER FUNDS FOR PROJECTS WITHIN
TRANSPORTATION CAPITAL FUND (313) PROJECT NOS.
69081, 60088, 60066 AND 68056
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Item #16A47
AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE OF A
DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT (PARCEL 103DUE)
REQUIRED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF DRAINAGE AND
UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAKE
TRAFFORD ROAD (CR 890) AND NORTH 19TH STREET IN
IMMOKALEE FOR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
NO. 60016. (ESTIMATED FISCAL IMPACT: $5,400) — A 2,589
SQUARE FOOT VACANT PARCEL AND PART OF A 9.27
ACRE PARENT TRACT OWNED BY BARRON COLLIER
PARTNERSHIP, LLLP
Item #16A48
AMENDMENT NO. 02 TO AGREEMENT #4600002912
BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND THE SOUTH FLORIDA
WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT (SFWMD), MODIFYING
THE DUE DATE AND FINAL CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION
REPORT FOR TASK 3 TO SEPTEMBER 30, 2015 FOR 28TH
AVENUE SE BRIDGE PROJECT NO. 60123 — TO ALLOW
ADEQUATE TIME TO PROCESS PAYMENT TO THE
CONTRACTOR, QUALITY ENTERPRISES, INC., REQUIRED
BY SFWMD BEFORE THEY WILL RELEASE A FINAL $300,000
GRANT PAYMENT TO THE COUNTY
Item #16A49
AFTER-THE-FACT APPROVAL TO SUBMIT A 2015
REGIONAL COASTAL RESILIENCE GRANT APPLICATION
SPONSORED BY THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND
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ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION (NOAA) IN THE AMOUNT
OF $1,118,340 FOR THE GRIFFIN ROAD STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT — A PROJECT IN SOUTH NAPLES,
OFF OF TAMIAMI TRAIL EAST (U.S. 41) AND BAREFOOT
WILLIAMS ROAD
Item #16A50
AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR PURCHASE OF A ROAD
RIGHT-OF-WAY, DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT
(PARCEL 123RDUE) REQUIRED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A
REPLACEMENT BRIDGE ON WHITE BOULEVARD OVER THE
CYPRESS CANAL FOR TRANSPORTATION BRIDGE
REPLACEMENT PROJECT NO. 66066 (ESTIMATED FISCAL
IMPACT: $3,600) — FOR THE PURCHASE A 1,120 SQUARE
FOOT IMPROVED PARCEL THAT'S PART OF A 2.5 ACRE
TRACT OWNED BY SE 182 AVE. MOSS BLUFF, LLC ON THE
SOUTH SIDE OF WHITE BOULEVARD EAST OF THE CANAL
Item #16A51
AMENDMENT NO. 4 TO COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT
NO. C-11759 WITH SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT REGARDING OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE
OF DESIGNATED PRIMARY WATERCOURSES IN COLLIER
COUNTY AND GRANTING AN EASEMENT TO TRANSFER
OPERATIONAL CONTROL AND MAINTENANCE OF A
PORTION OF COCOHATCHEE CANAL BEING RELOCATED
AND THE PORTION OF CR951 CANAL BEING EXTENDED —
AS DETAILED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
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Item #16B1
AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND THE
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING & URBAN DEVELOPMENT
TO ACCEPT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $98,050 FOR PINELAND
AVENUE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS, AUTHORIZING
THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD TO SIGN THE GRANT
AGREEMENT, EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY FORMS AND
AUTHORIZING THE NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENT —
INCLUDES A SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN
COLLIER COUNTY AND THE BAYSHORE GATEWAY
TRIANGLE CRA FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF HUD
GRANT #B-13-UC-12-0016 (PROJECT #33437)
Item #16C1
AWARDING INVITATION TO BID #15-6486 IN THE AMOUNT
OF $108,000 TO WES INDUSTRIES, INC. TO PURCHASE
REPLACEMENT DEGASIFICATION TOWER PACKING MEDIA
AT THE NORTH COUNTY REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT
PLANT — CRITICAL IN REMOVING GAS AND CONTROLLING
ODOR DURING THE PRODUCTION OF DRINKING WATER
Item #16C2
A WORK ORDER WITH QUALITY ENTERPRISES USA INC.,
UNDER CONTRACT #14-6213-36, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$325,248. 15, FOR NORTH REVERSE OSMOSIS WELLFIELD
METER REPLACEMENT PROJECT NO. 70085 — TO REPLACE
FLOW METERS ON 20 WELLS IN THE COUNTY'S NRO
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WELLFIELD
Item #16C3
A WORK ORDER UNDER CONTRACT #14-6213-40, WITH
QUALITY ENTERPRISES USA, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OF
$291,712.34, FOR LOWER TAMIAMI AQUIFER WELLFIELD
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 70085 — TO REPLACE
WELLHEAD FITTINGS AND VALVES AND REHABILITATE
WELLHEAD CONCRETE SUPPORT STRUCTURES
Item #16C4
A WORK ORDER UNDER CONTRACT #14-6213-37, IN THE
AMOUNT OF $672,900, WITH DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS, INC.
FOR ISLES OF CAPRI WATER PUMP STATION PUMP
REPLACEMENT PROJECT NO. 71067 AND AUTHORIZING A
$600,000 BUDGET AMENDMENT — TO REPLACE POTABLE
WATER PUMPS AND MOTORS AND ADD VARIABLE
FREQUENCY DRIVES TO ENHANCE MOTOR CONTROL
Item #16C5
CONTRACT #15-6494 IN THE AMOUNT OF $967,970,
AWARDED TO QUALITY ENTERPRISES USA, INC. FOR
NORTH COUNTY REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT PLANT
TRANSFER PUMP UPGRADES PROJECT NO. 71066 AND
AUTHORIZING A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT
OF $750,000 — TO REPLACE SIX POTABLE WATER
TRANSFER PUMPS
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Item #16C6
SENDING A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE RELATIVE TO THE
IMMOKALEE WATER AND SEWER DISTRICT'S POTABLE
WATER PIPE REPLACEMENT PROJECT — TO ASSIST THE
DISTRICT OBTAIN FUNDING FROM USDA RURAL UTILITIES
SERVICE TO REPLACE APPROXIMATELY 50 MILES OF
ASBESTOS CEMENT AND UNDERSIZED POTABLE WATER
MAINS
Item #16C7
RESOLUTION 2015-164: APPROVING SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
HARDSHIP DEFERRALS FOR CERTAIN SEWER SPECIAL
ASSESSMENTS FOR THE 2015 TAX YEAR
Item #16D1
A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH COLLIER COUNTY DISTRICT
SCHOOL BOARD TO ESTABLISH AN ALTERNATE
LOCATION FOR A PUBLIC PLAYGROUND AND CREATE
AN ADDITIONAL SOCCER FIELD IN IMMOKALEE
Item #16D2
AFTER-THE-FACT AMENDMENTS AND ATTESTATION
STATEMENTS WITH THE AREA AGENCY ON AGING FOR
SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, INC. FOR THE COMMUNITY CARE
FOR THE ELDERLY, ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE INITIATIVE,
AND HOME CARE FOR THE ELDERLY PROGRAMS TO
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EXTEND THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENTS AND ENSURE
CONTINUOUS FUNDING FOR FY 2014/2015
Item #16D3
AFTER-THE-FACT CONTRACTS, ATTESTATION
STATEMENTS AND BUDGET TO REFLECT ACTUAL AWARD
OF THE COMMUNITY CARE FOR THE ELDERLY,
ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE INITIATIVE, AND HOME CARE FOR
THE ELDERLY GRANTS FROM AREA AGENCY ON AGING
FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, INC.
Item #16D4
RECOGNIZING INTEREST EARNED FOR STATE AID TO
LIBRARY GRANTS AND APPROVING AN $854.61 BUDGET
AMENDMENT
Item #16D5
THREE (3) REVISED STANDARD COLLIER COUNTY PARKS
AND RECREATION FACILITY RENTAL AGREEMENTS USED
AS FORM AGREEMENTS AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY
MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO ENTER INTO THE
AGREEMENTS
Item #16D6
A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $160,115.45
TRANSFERRING FUNDS FROM PARKS AND RECREATION
BOATER IMPROVEMENT RESERVES TO SPECIFIC BOAT
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RAMP IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ALL WITHIN PARKS AND
RECREATION CAPITAL FUND 306
Item #16D7
A STANDARD USE AGREEMENT TO BE USED AS A FORM
AGREEMENT BY COLLIER COUNTY PARKS & RECREATION
YOUTH SPORTS FACILITY AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY
MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE TO ENTER INTO THE
AGREEMENTS
Item #16D8
SUBMISSION OF STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES
PARTNERSHIP (SHIP) PROGRAM ANNUAL REPORTS AND
LOCAL HOUSING INCENTIVE CERTIFICATIONS FOR FISCAL
YEARS 2011/2012, 2012/2013, AND INTERIM FISCAL YEARS
2013/2014 AND 2014/2015 TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH
PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS; AND APPROVE A BUDGET
AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,483.76
Item #16D9
ACCEPTING STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES PARTNERSHIP
(SHIP) FY15/16 ALLOCATED PROGRAM FUNDS IN THE
AMOUNT OF $1,636,466 AND SIGNING FISCAL YEAR 15/16
FUNDING CERTIFICATION
Item #16D10
BUDGET AMENDMENTS RECOGNIZING $455,461.89 IN
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PROGRAM INCOME AND ACCEPTING AN ADDITIONAL
ALLOCATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $95,884 FOR FISCAL
YEARS 2014/2015 FOR THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE
PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM
Item #16D11
FIVE (5) LANDLORD PAYMENT AGREEMENTS THAT
WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY TO ADMINISTER THE RAPID
RE-HOUSING AND HOMELESS PREVENTION PROGRAM
THROUGH THE COUNTY'S EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS
GRANT PROGRAM
Item #16D12
RESOLUTION 2015-165: PROVIDING AFTER-THE-FACT
APPROVAL TO SUBMIT THE SHIRLEY CONROY RURAL
AREA CAPITAL EQUIPMENT SUPPORT GRANT IN THE
AMOUNT OF $108,728 TO THE FLORIDA COMMISSION FOR
TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED FOR PROCUREMENT
OF ONE GLAVAL CUTAWAY TRANSIT VEHICLE
Item #16D13
NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS, IN THE AMOUNT OF
$2,836,694, FOR THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
URBAN DEVELOPMENT (HUD) FISCAL YEAR 2015-2016
BUDGET AS APPROVED IN THE HUD ACTION PLAN FOR
ENTITLEMENT FUNDS AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN
TO SIGN THE STANDARD HUD ENTITLEMENT
AGREEMENTS UPON ARRIVAL
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Item #16E1
RESOLUTION 2015-166: AUTHORIZING CANCELLATION OF
2015 TAXES ON FEE-SIMPLE INTEREST IN LAND THAT
COLLIER COUNTY ACQUIRED BY WARRANTY DEED FOR
CONSERVATION COLLIER WITHOUT MONETARY
COMPENSATION
Item #16E2
RATIFYING PROPERTY, CASUALTY, WORKERS'
COMPENSATION AND SUBROGATION CLAIM FILES
SETTLED AND/OR CLOSED BY THE RISK MANAGEMENT
DIVISION DIRECTOR PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION #2004-15
FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OF FY 15
Item #16E3
PURCHASE OF GROUP LIFE INSURANCE, ACCIDENTAL
DEATH INSURANCE, LONG TERM DISABILITY INSURANCE
AND SHORT TERM DISABILITY CLAIMS ADMINISTRATION
SERVICES FROM AETNA IN THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL
AMOUNT OF $403,271, A SAVINGS OF $194,567
Item #16E4
RECOGNIZING INTEREST EARNED BY EMS COUNTY
GRANT REVENUE AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF $456.42
Item #16E5
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AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY MANAGER AND STAFF TO
USE FEDERAL GSA SCHEDULES (I.E., SCHEDULE 70 AND
1122 PROGRAM), STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACTS,
AGREEMENTS AND PRICE LISTS, COMPETITIVELY
SOLICITED CONTRACTS BY US COMMUNITIES, WESTERN
STATES CONTRACTING ALLIANCE, NATIONAL
INTERGOVERNMENTAL PURCHASING ALLIANCE (NIPA),
NATIONAL JOINT POWERS ALLIANCE (NJPA) PUBLIC
PURCHASING CONSORTIUMS, COMPETITIVE
SOLICITATIONS FROM STATE OF FLORIDA CITIES,
COUNTIES, AND OTHER PUBLIC MUNICIPALITIES (I.E.,
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION; TRANSIT CONSORTIUM BUS
PROCUREMENT CONTRACT; LIBRARY PURCHASING
COOPERATIVE CONSORTIUM) FOR THE EFFICIENT
PURCHASE OF GOODS AND SERVICES FOR THE DELIVERY
OF PUBLIC SERVICES AND FOR WHICH FUNDS WERE
APPROVED IN OPERATING BUDGETS; AND AUTHORIZE
THE COUNTY MANAGER OR THE DESIGNEE TO SIGN USER
AGREEMENTS OR CONTRACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE
PURCHASES
Item #16E6
ACCEPTING THE DONATION OF LABOR AND MATERIALS
FROM COLLIER BUSINESS INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION (CBIA)
MEMBERS TO IMPROVE THE GOLDEN GATE SENIOR
CENTER, A/K/A THE OLD GOLDEN GATE LIBRARY
Item #16E7
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THE PURCHASE OF LIABILITY, AUTOMOBILE, WORKERS
COMPENSATION, AIRCRAFT, AIRPORT AND OTHER
INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR FY 2016 IN THE ANNUAL
AMOUNT OF $944,837, A REDUCTION OF $23,245
Item #16E8
AN ASSUMPTION AGREEMENT WITH CRAFTMASTER
HARDWARE, LLC AS IT RELATES TO REQUEST FOR QUOTE
#13-6071 TO PROVIDE COUNTYWIDE LOCKSMITH,
HARDWARE, PARTS AND EQUIPMENT FOR COUNTY
FACILITIES
Item #16E9
THE PURCHASE OF FLOOD INSURANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR
2016 IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $423,751
Item #16E10 — Moved to Item #11L (Per Agenda Change Sheet);
Then to remain on the Consent Agenda
RECOMMENDATION TO AWARD ITB #15-6474, "MEDICAL
DIRECTOR (PART A) FOR COLLIER COUNTY AND
EMPLOYMENT PHYSICALS & DRUG TESTING (PART B)" TO
ADVANCE MEDICAL CENTER, LLC.
Item #16E11
RECOGNIZING AND APPROPRIATING REVENUE FOR
SPECIAL SERVICES TO THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT
DIVISION COST CENTER AND APPROVE ALL NECESSARY
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FISCAL YEAR 2014-2015 BUDGET AMENDMENTS
Item #16E12
AN ASSUMPTION AGREEMENT FROM UNI-SELECT USA,
INC., TO IEH AUTO PARTS, LLC D/B/A AUTO PLUS AUTO
PARTS, AS IT RELATES TO ITB#13-6058 "FILTERS FOR
FLEET VEHICLES" AND #15-6380 "ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT
MANUFACTURER AND AFTERMARKET PARTS FOR FLEET
PARTS, ACCESSORIES, AND TOOLS"
Item #16E13 — Moved to Item #11G (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16E14
ASSIGNMENT OF LEASED OFFICE SPACE AT THE PORT OF
THE ISLANDS MARINA FROM THE ISLANDS MARINA, LLC
AND PORT OF THE ISLANDS PROPERTIES, LLC TO
PREPMAC, LLC
Item #16F1 — With Changes to Agenda Item #16F1(C) from the
August 11, 2015 Absentia Meeting (Per Agenda
Change Sheet)
RATIFICATION OF SUMMARY, CONSENT AND EMERGENCY
AGENDA ITEMS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY MANAGER
DURING THE BOARD"S SCHEDULED RECESS. (IN ABSENTIA
MEETING(S) DATED JULY 21, 2015; AUGUST 11, 2015; AND
AUGUST 25, 2015)
July 21, 2015
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Item #16F1A
CHANGE ORDER NO. 2 TO CONTRACT #13-6164, WORK
ORDER #4500158367 WITH HOLE MONTES, INC., TO ADD
SIXTY (60) ADDITIONAL DAYS FOR CONSTRUCTION
SERVICES FOR THE KIRKWOOD ALLEY STORMWATER
IMPROVEMENT (PROJECT #60140)
August 11, 2015
Item #16F1A
CHANGE ORDER NO. 2 TO CONTRACT #15-6416, WITH
QUALITY ENTERPRISES USA, INC., TO ADD SIXTY (60)
ADDITIONAL DAYS FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR
THE WIGGINS PASS CHANNEL INTERIM DREDGING
(PROJECT #80288)
Item #16F1B
RESOLUTION 2015-150: APPROVING A 1-YEAR ACTION
PLAN FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT
(CDBG), HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS (HOME) AND
EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT (ESG) PROGRAMS FOR
FY 2015-2016 INCLUDING REPROGRAMMING FUNDS FROM
PREVIOUS YEARS FOR CDBG; AUTHORIZING THE CHAIR
TO EXECUTE REQUIRED U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING
AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATIONS, AN SF 424
APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL ASSISTANCE AND
TRANSMITTAL TO U.S. DEPARTMENT OF URBAN
DEVELOPMENT — RATIFIED BY BCC SEPTEMBER 8, 2015
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Item #16F 1 C
SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE COLLIER COUNTY
U. S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING & URBAN DEVELOPMENT
ANNUAL ACTION PLANS FOR FY2006-2007, FY2008-2009,
FY2009-2010 AND FY2011-2012 THROUH FY2014-2015 AND
ASSOCIATED AGREEMENTS AND AMENDMENTS
Item #16F1D
PAYMENTS TO PENDING NAMED RECIPIENTS FOR SHIP
PURCHASE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THE EMERGENCY
SOLUTIONS GRANT RAPID RE-HOUSING & HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION PROGRAM; AND VALIDATING A PUBLIC
PURPOSE FOR PAYMENT MADE UNDER THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM
Item #16F 1 E
MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
Item #16F 1 F
A REPORT TO THE BOARD REGARDING INVESTMENT OF
COUNTY FUNDS AS OF THE QUARTER END JUNE 30, 2015
Item #16F 1 G
INVOICES PENDING BOARD APPROVAL FOR PAYMENT
8/11/2015 (IN ABSENTIA MEETING)
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August 25, 2015
Item #16F 1 A
AN EXCAVATION PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AND
EXCAVATION PERFORMANCE BOND FOR KALEA BAY,
APPLICATION NUMBER PL20150001749 AND AUTHORIZING
THE COUNTY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT
ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Item #16F 1 B
AN EXCAVATION PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AND
PERFORMANCE BOND FOR MONTIANO, APPLICATION
NUMBER PL20140002750 AND AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY
MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Item #16F 1 C
CONTRACT #14-6213-28, CHANGE ORDER NO. 1 WITH
DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS, INC. FOR THE TIME-AND-MATERIAL
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $289,532, DUE TO UNFORESEEN
CONDITIONS ON THE BAY COLONY SHORES FIRE MAIN
CONVERSION PROJECT (PROJECT NO.71010)
Item #16F 1 D
SUSPENDING ANY WORK UNDER CONTRACTS AND NEW
CONTRACTS WITH AL BENARROCH D/B/A AFFORDABLE
LANDSCAPING SERVICES AND DESIGN LLC AND
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WITHHOLDING PAYMENTS THERE UNDER, PENDING A
FINAL REVIEW AND RECONCILIATION OF CERTAIN
ACTION UNDERTAKEN BY THE VENDOR, SUBJECT TO
PENDING CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST AL
BENARROCH, EXPIRATION OF THOSE CONTRACTS AND/OR
FUTURE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TERMINATE THOSE
CONTRACTS BY THE PROCUREMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR
Item #16F 1 E
MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
Item #16F 1 F
INVOICES PENDING BOARD APPROVAL FOR PAYMENT
8/25/2015 (IN ABSENTIA MEETING)
Item #16F2
RESOLUTION 2015-167: APPROVING AMENDMENTS
(APPROPRIATING GRANTS, DONATIONS, CONTRIBUTIONS
OR INSURANCE PROCEEDS) TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2014-15
ADOPTED BUDGET
Item #16F3
A REPORT COVERING BUDGET AMENDMENTS IMPACTING
RESERVES AND MOVING FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT UP TO
AND INCLUDING $25,000 AND $50,000, RESPECTIVELY
Item #16F4
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BUDGET AMENDMENTS APPROPRIATING
APPROXIMATELY $349,048,090.84 OF UNSPENT FY 2015
GRANT AND PROJECT BUDGETS INTO FISCAL YEAR 2016
Item #16F5 — Moved to Item #11H (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F6 — Moved to Item #11I (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F7 —Moved to Item #11J (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16F8 — Moved to Item #11K (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16G1
A LIST OF RANKED ENGINEER/DESIGN PROFESSIONALS
FOR RFP #15-6382-2, "GRANT FUNDED PROFESSIONAL
SERVICES FOR AIRPORTS," AUTHORIZE STAFF TO
NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS WITH TOP RANKED FIRMS FOR
SUBSEQUENT BOARD APPROVAL, AND MAKE A FINDING
THAT THIS ITEM PROMOTES FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF
THE COUNTY'S THREE AIRPORTS — FOR NEGOTIATIONS
WITH HOLE MONTES, ATKINS NORTH AMERICA, INC. AND
AVCON, INC.
Item #16H1
RESOLUTION 2015-168: APPOINTING MICHAEL SEEF TO
CONSERVATION COLLIER LAND ACQUISITION ADVISORY
COMMITTEE TO SERVE THE REMAINDER OF A VACANT
TERM EXPIRING FEBRUARY 11, 2017
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Item #16H2
RESOLUTION 2015-169: APPOINTING MAURICE R.
RAKESTRAW TO THE COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY
AUTHORITY TO THE TERM EXPIRING DECEMBER 31, 2019
Item #16H3
AUTHORIZING THE ADVERTISEMENT OF A PROPOSED
ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2016
AND WOULD ALLOW THE COUNTY TO ENFORCE POSTING
PUBLIC AWARENESS SIGNS AT ADULT ENTERTAINMENT
AND MASSAGE/BODYWORK ESTABLISHMENTS TO ALERT
EMPLOYEES AND PATRONS TO THE REMEDIES AND
PROTECTION RELATED TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING
Item #16H4
RESOLUTION 2015-170: APPOINTING SGT. JOSE CARRILLO
REPRESENTING COLLIER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE (A
TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER 5, 2017) AND ALBERT
GOODALL REPRESENTING THE AMERICAN RED CROSS (TO
REMAINDER OF A TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER 5, 2018) TO
THE COLLIER COUNTY CITIZENS CORPS
Item #16H5
RESOLUTION 2015-171 : REAPPOINTING CHARLETTE
ROMAN AND STAN CHRZANOWSKI (ENVIRONMENTAL
CATEGORY) TO THE COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING
COMMISSION WITH TERMS EXPIRING OCTOBER 1, 2019
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Item #16H6
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO REIMBURSE
COMMISSIONER HILLER FOR LEGAL FEES INCURRED IN
SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDING AGAINST TWO ETHICS
COMPLAINTS — COMMISSIONER HILLER ABSTAINED FROM
VOTING
Item #16I1
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO FILE FOR RECORD WITH
ACTION AS DIRECTED —
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MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
September 8, 2015
1. MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS TO FILE FOR RECORD WITH ACTION AS DIRECTED:
A. CLERK OF COURTS:
1) Items to be Authorized by BCC for Payment:
B. DISTRICTS:
1) Heritage Bay Community Development District:
Meeting Agenda 05/20/2015 (05/07/2015 Continuation)
Meeting Minutes 05/20/2015 (05/07/2015 Continuation)
2) Heritage Greens Community Development District:
Meeting Agenda 05/18/2015; 07/20/2015
Meeting Minutes 05/18/2015; 07/20/2015
3) The Quarry Community Development District:
Resolution 2015-02, amending Resolution 2015-01, rescheduling the
FY15/16 Public Budget Hearing from July 10, 2015 to August 14, 2015
C. OTHER:
1) Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council:
FY16 Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council Adopted Budget
September 8, 2015
Item #16J1
THE USE OF $500 FROM THE CONFISCATED TRUST FUNDS
TO SUPPORT THE FLORIDA MISSING CHILDREN'S DAY
FOUNDATION — TO RAISE AWARENESS AND EDUCATE THE
PUBLIC ON CHILD SAFETY AND ABDUCTION PREVENTION
Item #16J2
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO SERVE AS THE
LOCAL COORDINATING UNIT OF GOVERNMENT FOR THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR 2015 EDWARD BYRNE MEMORIAL,
JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT (JAG) COUNTYWIDE
PROGRAM, AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE THE
CERTIFICATION OF PARTICIPATION, DESIGNATE THE
SHERIFF AS THE OFFICIAL APPLICANT AND SHERIFF'S
OFFICE STAFF AS GRANT FINANCIAL AND PROGRAM
MANAGERS, APPROVE THE GRANT APPLICATION WHEN
COMPLETED AND AUTHORIZE ACCEPTANCE OF AWARDS
AND ASSOCIATED BUDGET AMENDMENTS
Item #16J3
AN AGREEMENT AUTHORIZING THE COLLIER COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL
JURISDICTION OVER PRIVATE ROADS WITHIN THE
BANYAN WOODS MASTER ASSOCIATION, INC. — A
DEVELOPMENT LOCATED OFF AIRPORT PULLING ROAD
Item #16J4 — Moved to Item #13A (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
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Item #16K1
A JOINT MOTION AND FINAL JUDGMENT IN THE AMOUNT
OF $5,000 AS A GLOBAL SETTLEMENT FOR PARCELS 152SE
AND 152TCE2 IN THE EMINENT DOMAIN LAWSUIT STYLED
COLLIER COUNTY V. MODELYNE JEAN GILLES, ET AL.,
CASE NO. 14-CA-764 (COLLIER BOULEVARD PROJECT NO.
68056) (FISCAL IMPACT: $3,524)
Item #16K2
A JOINT MOTION FOR FINAL JUDGMENT IN THE AMOUNT
OF $55,000 FOR FULL COMPENSATION AS WELL AS $8,517
IN STATUTORY ATTORNEY'S FEES, EXPERT FEES AND
COSTS FOR PARCEL 161RDUE IN THE CASE STYLED
COLLIER COUNTY V. TARA CHAPIN, ET AL., CASE NO.15-
CA-319 REQUIRED FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO GOLDEN GATE
BOULEVARD (PROJECT NO. 60040) FISCAL IMPACT:
$23,822.50
Item #16K3
AMENDING AN AGREEMENT FOR LEGAL SERVICES
RELATED TO THJE RETENTION AGREEMENT WITH ALLEN,
NORTON & BLUE, P.A., INCREASING THE RATES CHARGED
PER HOUR FOR PARTNERS AND ASSOCIATES — INCREASES
THE HOURLY RATE TO $235.00 PER HOUR FOR A 2008
AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED LEGAL SERVICES
Item #16K4
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COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ADVERTISE AN ORDINANCE
FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION WHICH WOULD AMEND
SECTION FIFTEEN OF THE BOARD'S PURCHASING
ORDINANCE (ORDINANCE 2013-69, AS AMENDED), TO
CONFORM COUNTY PREFERENCE TO LOCAL BUSINESSES
IN COUNTY CONTRACTS TO RECENT CHANGES IN LAW
Item #16K5
COUNTY ATTORNEY TO ADVERTISE AN ORDINANCE FOR
FUTURE CONSIDERATION WHICH WOULD AMEND THE
BOARD'S MEETING ORDINANCE (ORDINANCE NO. 75-16,
AS AMENDED), TO PROVIDE FOR ELECTRONIC MEETINGS
DURING WHEN A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS UNABLE TO
MEET AT THE COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER
DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES
Item #16K6
JOINT MOTION AND FINAL JUDGMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF
$90,000 FOR FULL COMPENSATION, AS WELL AS $13,882 IN
STATUTORY ATTORNEY'S FEES AND EXPERT FEES, FOR
PARCEL 162RDUE IN THE LAWSUIT STYLED COLLIER
COUNTY V. LEE MCCASKEY A/K/A LEON MCCASKEY, ET
AL., CASE NO. 15-CA-152 REQUIRED FOR ROADWAY AND
RELATED IMPROVEMENTS ON GOLDEN GATE BLVD,
PROJECT NO. 60040, AND APPROVE THE PAYMENT OF
ATTORNEY'S FEES FOR SUPPLEMENTAL PROCEEDINGS IN
AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000. (FISCAL IMPACT:
36,687.50)
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Item #16K7
A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR PAYMENT FOR
UNANTICIPATED LITIGATION SUPPORT SERVICES BY
PROFESSIONAL REAL ESTATE APPRAISAL EXPERTS FOR
THE ORDER OF TAKING HEARINGS FOR THE GOLDEN
GATE BOULEVARD WIDENING PROJECT NO. 60040 IN AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $812.50. FISCAL IMPACT $812.50
— FOR DOCUMENTS PRODUCED BY WILCOX APPRAISAL
SERVICES, INC. AND ADDITIONAL WORK BY KENNETH
DEVOS, MAI, SRA
Item #16K8
AN AGREEMENT WITH LEXISNEXIS TO PROVIDE ONLINE
LEGAL RESEARCH SERVICES TO COUNTY ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE
AGREEMENT — A 3-YEAR AGREEMENT WITH $6,348 FOR
THE FIRST YEAR, $6,538 FOR THE SECOND YEAR AND
$6,735 FOR YEAR THREE
Item #16K9 — Moved to Item #12A (Per Agenda Change Sheet)
Item #16K10
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO FILE AN OFFER OF
JUDGMENT (SETTLEMENT OFFER) TO PLAINTIFFS ALAN
AND GAIL TORTOLANI IN THE LAWSUIT STYLED ALAN R.
TORTOLANI AND GAIL S. TORTOLANI V. COLLIER COUNTY
(CASE NO. 14-CA-002017), NOW PENDING IN THE CIRCUIT
COURT OF THE TWENTIETH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND
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FOR COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
Item #17A
RESOLUTION 2015-172: PETITION VAC-PL20150001030, TO
DISCLAIM, RENOUNCE AND VACATE THE COUNTY AND
THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN THREE (3) UTILITY EASEMENTS
AS SHOWN AND RECORDED IN OFFICIAL RECORD BOOK
4101, PAGE 701, OFFICIAL RECORD BOOK 4171, PAGE 634 &
OFFICIAL RECORD BOOK 5065, PAGE 1479 AND TWO (2)
DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AS SHOWN AND RECORDED IN
OFFICIAL RECORD BOOK 5121, PAGE 1593 & OFFICIAL
RECORD BOOK 5121, PAGE 1734, ALL IN THE PUBLIC
RECORDS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, LOCATED IN
SECTION 7, TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST,
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
Item #17B
RESOLUTION 2015-173: PETITION VAC-PL20150000772, TO
VACATE A PORTION OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS
AS RECORDED IN OFFICIAL RECORD BOOK 5081, PAGES
3259 THROUGH 3274, OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, LOCATED IN SECTION 30,
TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA
Item #17C
RESOLUTION 2015-174 (DISTRICT I) & RESOLUTION 2015-175
(DISTRICT II): APPROVING PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT
Page 257
September 8, 2015
ROLLS AS THE FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLLS AND ADOPTING
THE SAME AS NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLLS
FOR PURPOSES OF UTILIZING THE UNIFORM METHOD OF
COLLECTION PURSUANT TO SECTION 197.3632, FLORIDA
STATUTES, FOR SOLID WASTE MUNICIPAL SERVICE
BENEFIT UNITS, SERVICE DISTRICT NO. I AND SERVICE
DISTRICT NO. II, SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS LEVIED AGAINST
CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE
UNINCORPORATED AREA OF COLLIER COUNTY, THE CITY
OF MARCO ISLAND AND THE CITY OF EVERGLADES CITY
PURSUANT TO COLLIER COUNTY ORDINANCE 2005-54, AS
AMENDED (REVENUE ANTICIPATED: $21,572,800)
Item #17D
ORDINANCE 2015-47 AND RESOLUTION 2015-176: AN
ORDINANCE REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 2013-70 AND
A RESOLUTION REPEALING RESOLUTION 2013-292, BOTH
RELATED TO DISSOLVING THE LA PENINSULA SEAWALL
MUNICIPAL SERVICE BENEFIT UNIT (MSBU)
Item #17E
RESOLUTION 2015-177: APPROVING AMENDMENTS
(APPROPRIATING CARRY FORWARD, TRANSFERS AND
SUPPLEMENTAL REVENUE) TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2014-15
ADOPTED BUDGET
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September 8, 2015
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 5:07 p.m.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF
SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS CONTROL
TIM NANCE, CHAIRMAN
ATTEST:
DWIGHT E. BROCK, CLERK
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These minutes approved by the Board on
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or as corrected
Transcript prepared on behalf of Gregory Reporting Service, Inc., by
Cherie' R. Nottingham.
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FORM 8B MEMORANDUM OF VOTING CONFLICT FOR
COUNTY, MUNICIPAL, AND OTHER LOCAL PUBLIC OFFICERS
LAST NAME—FIRST NAME—MIDDLE NAME NAME OF BOARD,COUNCIL,COMMISSION,AUTHORITY,OR COMMITTEE
Hiller, Georgia A. Collier County Board of County Commissioners
MAILING ADDRESS THE BOARD,COUNCIL,COMMISSION,AUTHORITY OR COMMITTEE ON
3299 East Tamiami Trail WHICH I SERVE IS A UNIT OF
CITY COUNTY CI CITY IXCOUNTY CI OTHER LOCAL AGENCY
NAME OF POLITICAL SUBDIVISION:
Naples Collier Collier County
DATE ON WHICH VOTE OCCURRED MY POSITION IS
September 8, 2015 ELECTIVE ❑ APPOINTIVE
WHO MUST FILE FORM 8B
This form is for use by any person serving at the county, city, or other local level of government on an appointed or elected board, council,
commission, authority, or committee. It applies to members of advisory and non-advisory bodies who are presented with a voting conflict of
interest under Section 112.3143, Florida Statutes.
Your responsibilities under the law when faced with voting on a measure in which you have a conflict of interest will vary greatly depending
on whether you hold an elective or appointive position. For this reason, please pay close attention to the instructions on this form before
completing and filing the form.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 112.3143, FLORIDA STATUTES
A person holding elective or appointive county, municipal, or other local public office MUST ABSTAIN from voting on a measure which
would inure to his or her special private gain or loss. Each elected or appointed local officer also MUST ABSTAIN from knowingly voting on
a measure which would inure to the special gain or loss of a principal (other than a government agency) by whom he or she is retained
(including the parent, subsidiary, or sibling organization of a principal by which he or she is retained); to the special private gain or loss of a
relative; or to the special private gain or loss of a business associate. Commissioners of community redevelopment agencies(CRAB)under
Sec. 163.356 or 163.357, F.S., and officers of independent special tax districts elected on a one-acre, one-vote basis are not prohibited
from voting in that capacity.
For purposes of this law, a "relative' includes only the officer's father, mother, son, daughter, husband, wife, brother, sister, father-in-law,
mother-in-law, son-in-law, and daughter-in-law. A"business associate" means any person or entity engaged in or carrying on a business
enterprise with the officer as a partner, joint venturer, coowner of property, or corporate shareholder(where the shares of the corporation
are not listed on any national or regional stock exchange).
ELECTED OFFICERS:
In addition to abstaining from voting in the situations described above, you must disclose the conflict:
PRIOR TO THE VOTE BEING TAKEN by publicly stating to the assembly the nature of your interest in the measure on which you are
abstaining from voting; and
WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER THE VOTE OCCURS by completing and filing this form with the person responsible for recording the
minutes of the meeting, who should incorporate the form in the minutes.
APPOINTED OFFICERS:
Although you must abstain from voting in the situations described above, you are not prohibited by Section 112.3143 from otherwise
participating in these matters. However, you must disclose the nature of the conflict before making any attempt to influence the decision,
whether orally or in writing and whether made by you or at your direction.
IF YOU INTEND TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION PRIOR TO THE MEETING AT WHICH THE VOTE WILL BE
TAKEN:
• You must complete and file this form (before making any attempt to influence the decision)with the person responsible for recording the
minutes of the meeting, who will incorporate the form in the minutes. (Continued on page 2)
CE FORM 8B-EFF. 11/2013 PAGE 1
Adopted by reference in Rule 34-7 010(1)(f),F A.C.
APPOINTED OFFICERS (continued)
• A copy of the form must be provided immediately to the other members of the agency.
• The form must be read publicly at the next meeting after the form is filed.
IF YOU MAKE NO ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION EXCEPT BY DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING:
• You must disclose orally the nature of your conflict in the measure before participating.
• You must complete the form and file it within 15 days after the vote occurs with the person responsible for recording the minutes of the
meeting, who must incorporate the form in the minutes.A copy of the form must be provided immediately to the other members of the
agency, and the form must be read publicly at the next meeting after the form is filed.
DISCLOSURE OF LOCAL OFFICER'S INTEREST
I. Georgia A. Hiller , hereby disclose that on September 8, 20 15
(a)A measure came or will come before my agency which(check one or more)
X inured to my special private gain or loss;
inured to the special gain or loss of my business associate,
inured to the special gain or loss of my relative,
inured to the special gain or loss of by
whom I am retained; or
inured to the special gain or loss of , which
is the parent subsidiary, or sibling organization or subsidiary of a principal which has retained me.
(b)The measure before my agency and the nature of my conflicting interest in the measure is as follows:
Reimbursement of legal fees incurred in the successful defense of ethics violation
complaints (see attached)
If disclosure of specific information would violate confidentiality or privilege pursuant to law or rules governing attorneys, a public officer,
who is also an attorney, may comply with the disclosure requirements of this section by disclosing the nature of the interest in such a way
as to provide the public with notice of the conflict.
CI / 7 I
Date Filed Sign. . e
NOTICE: UNDER PROVISIONS OF FLORIDA STATUTES §112.317, A FAILURE TO MAKE ANY REQUIRED DISCLOSURE
CONSTITUTES GROUNDS FOR AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING: IMPEACHMENT,
REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT, DEMOTION, REDUCTION IN SALARY, REPRIMAND, OR A
CIVIL PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $10,000.
CE FORM 8B-EFF. 11/2013 PAGE 2
Adopted by reference in Rule 34.7.010(1)(f).FA.0