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Minutes 09/23/1992 R Parks & Recreation Advisory [hoard ( PARAH ) Minutes September 23 , 1992 MINUTES COLLIER COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD Golden Gate community Park Naples, Florida 33999 Wednesday, September 23, 1992 PRESENT: Ms. Cherryle Thomas, Chairman Mr. Gil Mueller, Vice Chairman Mr. Timothy Blackford Ms. Geneva Till ALSO PRESENT: Mr. Steve Brinkman, Parks & Recreation Director Mr. Murdo Smith, Parks & Recreation Operations Manager Ms. Mary Ellen Donner, Recreation Supervisor Ms. Barbara L. Johnson, Sr. Secretary ABSENT: Mr. William Clendenon GUESTS: Collier County Women's Tennis Association Members Ms. Nancy Farnsworth, President; Sandy Acres, Vice President; Diane Jacob, Div. Director; Nancy Eubauk I. CALL TO ORDER 2:00 p.m. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Approval of August 26, 1992 minutes. Motioned by Mr. Gil Mueller, seconded by Ms. Geneva Till , passed 4/0 IV. NEW BUSINESS/PRESENTATIONS: C. PRESENTATION - TENNIS Ms. Nancy Farnsworth, President of the CCWTA made a presentation requesting some additional tennis courts, particularly in the North Naples and Golden Gate area. The organization has grown to a membership of 598 women - 300 actively play each season. Due to the lack of available courts to play on, it may become necessary to cap off the membership of the group; a membership waiting list has presently been established. The three sessions of play this year has resulted in revenue of $4,300 for the County. The majority of the games are played in the evening, which necessitates lighted courts, and locations of play are determined by the area where the players reside. Present scheduling allows the CCWTA to use 50% of the County courts available, leaving the other 50% available to the general public. CCWTA was instrumental in promoting the construction of the last 4 courts at Veterans Park, and desire to make their request for additional courts known. 1 Staff explained that the Parks Master Plan includes 2 additional courts at Golden Gate and 2 at Veterans Park but there is no funding available at the present time. The possibility exists for construction of 6 courts at the Vineyards; also the possibility of 8 clay courts at the Pelican Bay property to be donated by Westinghouse. The approximate cost for 2 courts is $44-50,000, including lights and fencing. The Racquet Club on Marco Island also has room for three additional courts. The use of the existing clay courts at this facility would determine the type of courts to be constructed. The Department is also considering some type of tennis complex in different parts of the County, similar operation as the one on Marco. Mr. Brinkman offered to schedule a time with Ms. Farnsworth to talk about the courts at the Vineyards. These would be the traditional hard court due to the initial cost and the cost of maintenance. If a complex were built with many courts, it could be half hard courts and half clay courts. Older people prefer the softer courts. B. PRESENTATION - BEACH PARKING George Carse gave a presentation regarding the beach parking fees. He distributed literature and pictures in reference to Tigertail Beach. He explained that Tigertail Beach was different from other Gulf beaches, as it was not on the Gulf itself but was a lagoon. Although the water is considered safe for swimming, the appearance of it is not appealing to bathers. There are numerous reports available giving figures of beach users and residency of these users, all showing different statistics. In reference to the beach fees being discussed at the BCC meeting Tuesday, Mr. Carse favored a free beach sticker for year round residents as opposed to increasing the fee for beach parking. He noted that if a person drove to the City beaches there would be no charge if the vehicle had a City sticker. Consistency at all beaches was also favored. Mr. Mueller spoke in reference to Tigertail - the status of the murky water was due to the formation and growth of Sand Dollar Island. He suggested that Mr. Carse contact Mr. Frank Blanchard who has been very active regarding the beach concerns of Marco. Mr. Mueller stated that he felt the users of Tigertail were different than the users of the other County beaches and many hours have been spent discussing the beaches, fees, etc. A. A & B - These two items - (A) Sports Equipment and (B) Arts & Craft Supplies were put out for bid last year. Since both agreements contained renewal clauses, it is not necessary for these items to go before the BCC again this year. D. Mr. Brinkman reported that the Recreation Standards in the Growth Management Plan have been revised. The lowest operating maintenance costs results when grouping of like facilities occur and there is also less stress on community parks. He then went down the list that had been distributed. 2 The Department is suggesting developing two regional sports complexs - 1 in the North and 1 in the South. Added is a regional events complex with a very large park area for large County-wide special events. Recreation/pool/tennis complex - in addition to what we have, we would build these large rec centers (25,000 sq. ft. ) - 1 for every 50,000 people, 1 center for every two community park areas. These centers would be fitness oriented. There would also be an outdoor pool and a tennis complex, with the center and one staff would run all three facilities. This would be more effective cost wise. The standards call for four centers; we have the option of expanding existing facilities - Immokalee Middle School , add on to the Recreation Center at Golden Gate, FMCP, and we could expand the Racquet Center. Regional Sr. Ctr. - This would be an outdoor educational center in a large regional park. The Park Rangers headquarters could be located there, a training room, exhibit hall , nature trails, lake, etc. It would be nice to work with the School District and have the School Board and County purchase land together for development. Barefoot Beach Preserve - expanding the facility to include an interpretative center. Summer camps, etc. could be held here. Neighborhood Parks - use existing elementary schools. We wish to develop an agreement and standard with the School District so that they would put in a particular type of facility and the County would reward them by sharing in 50% of the operation and maintenance cost. These areas would be called school park areas. In the future if a new elementary school site were designated as a neighborhood park, the county would pay 50% of the operating and maintenance cost. The School District has better capability of acquiring capital money, but not operating and maintenance monies. PROJECTS: This list is a Development Plan. Community Recreation Facilities - expand 3 existing facilities with swimming pools at those locations. Construct two new facilities to serve North Naples and South Naples, consisting of a 25,000 sq. ft. Center, pool , and tennis complex. Land is needed to develop a number of community parks. South Naples Community Park hopefully will be developed near Lely High School . The land for the Estates community park is being worked on by another advisory group. Then Community Park #9 and 10 would be constructed. Regional sports complex - The proposed north facility would have the highest priority and could be located at Barron Collier High School or the new high school being developed on Immokalee Road. The southern facility would probably be at Lely High School or the Manatee site (Gran property) . Barron Collier High School has been trying to correct existing problems with their athletic fields. What we would like to do is have Barron Collier give us the land for a regional sports complex and we would give them the new facilities - one softball and one baseball field for their varsity. We could use the complex weekends and evenings. There is a site for an elementary school there and there is an open piece of land 3 available; we would like 5 softball , 4 baseball , and 8 soccer fields in that location. Because of the amount of land it may be necessary to reduce the scope or put the soccer fields at a different location. Another plan for Rec Center - maybe expanded at IMS. 10,000 sq. ft. of gym could be renovated. In existence are a weight room, locker rooms, office & maintenance (separate building) . It would be necessry to join the two buildings. We would like to build additional racquetball courts; this would require the School District to demolish another facility a this loction. Additional rooms of different sizes, kitchen, and a game room could be constructed. This would give Immokalee a facility for the entire family with a pool next door. We would build a rec center as home base for staff and then have the supervisor also operate the swimming pool . There is a similar plan for Golden Gate Community Center as well . 3:40 take 10 minute break VI. REPORTS AND UPDATES Per the internal auditor, we should have the fees and formulas used for rental of the facilities and program charges approved by the BCC. These items are covered in this Draft and are generally the same as currently in effect. . Draft Fees and Charges - Includes, Recreation, Athletics, Racquet Center, Swimming Pool and Golden Gate Community Center fees and charges. The major changes are: proposing charging both profit and non profit organizations for use of the facilities and there will be a concession fee associated with events. Deposits can be waived for various reasons. It also covers the insurance requirements per Risk Management. The Athletic Section will be charging $5.00 per participant for programs not sponsored by the County. The formulas for program charges have not changed. Golden Gate Community Center - fee structure has been approved by their Advisory Board - fees have been increased, the policy states insurance requirements and recommendations for serving alcohol . MOTION: Gil Mueller: We accept the fee policy on the condition that staff review the possibility of variation between residents and non residents showing a minimum of 20% or there abouts breaking it off on even dollars at RC. Geneva Till : Seconded. Passed 4-0. Mr. Blackford inquired about the swimming pool at Golden Gate. Weller Pool was the low bidder, but all bids were over budget. Permission has been granted to renegotiate with Weller and determine if the cost can be cut to $1 .6 million. Staff desires to keep the slide and cut something else. There will be locker/restrooms, but the ozone pool sanitation has been dropped. 4 Barefoot Beach Friends would like to run the concession at Barefoot Beach Preserve, keeping 10% of the profits and give 90% to the County. The organization of 200 members has 3 people that have retail experience and would head this committee. Two people would be on duty in the stand year round, a separate checking account would be established, the account will be audited and reviewed by County. The group would need to come before PARAB to make report annually. The "Friends" are willing to do this because they are interested in keeping up the facility and would like to help provide educational programs, etc. MOTION: Geneva Till - BCC waive bidding requirements for Barefoot Beach Preserve, and authorize Friends to operate this facility according to these guidelines. Mr. Blackford - seconded the motion. Passed 4 to 0. Ballfields at GGCP and Veterans Park - should be substantial completion by December or January. New football/soccer field to start construction soon in Immokalee. Clay courts just about done at the Racquet Center. Conklin Point - Bids will be coming on for this project. Staff to send tab sheet to PARAB members and if they so desire a special meeting will be called to discuss this item. Adjourned 5:00 pm. 7968 5